The GOP is now a party of know-nothing flat-earthers

One of the greatest crises of our time is climate change, which threatens to create food shortages (as the Russians learned this summer), change geography, eradicate entire eco-systems and even wipe out cities and towns in coastal areas. (NOTE: If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment. The clear scientific consensus indicates a warming climate caused by human activity.)
But we’ve reached the odd and depressing point in American politics where not a single Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate supports aggressive action to mitigate climate change. The last science literate, Delaware Congressman Mike Castle, was defeated by tea party favorite Christine O’Donnell.
The blog Think Progress did a survey of GOP Senate candidates, and it found that even those who had previously supported policies that would curb carbon emissions have backed away, fearing a backlash from their know-nothing constituents.
Many others have simply chosen to be ignorant anti-science flat-earthers. Alaska’s Joe Miller, who defeated incumbent Lisa Murkowski in the GOP primary, is an example of the latter category. He told an Alaska newspaper,
“We haven’t heard there’s man-made global warming.” [Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, 8/23/10]

Georgia Senator Johnny Isakson is in the more sophisticated category, too smart to deny the science outright but unwilling to buck a tide of flat-earth voters and selfish businesses that don’t want to change their ways. This was Isakson’s response, according to Think Progress:

Science has shown us that there has been a gradual warming of the earth over the last 50 years. What is not as clear is whether the cause for this warming is man-made emissions, a cyclical warming of the planet, or a combination of both. Given the uncertainty in the science behind climate change, I believe that we should take proactive steps, both personally and as a nation, to reduce our emissions. footprint.

Interestingly, though, Isakson doesn’t support any “proactive measures” to combat climate change.

The current GOP represents a step backward from the Bush administration, which acknowledged the threat of climate change. In 2007, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the US was “a major emitter” and was not “above the international community on the issue.” She also said that “all nations should tackle” the “growing problem” of climate change. (h/t The New Civil Rights Movement)

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Rightwing Troll

September 16th, 2010
8:36 am

You just now clued into that? The Hate Baggers and Conservitards have been knowledge hating, knuckle dragging, Flat Earthers for the better part of a decade if not longer…

MV

September 16th, 2010
8:38 am

Isakson’s comments are on the money. We do need to take proactive steps, but relying on Big Government to do it through things like Cap and Tax is not the way to achieve it. Attention, Dems: Government cannot solve all of your problems. It’s time to move from the nanny state and take ownership as Isakson points out. Proactive doesn’t always equal government

bill johnson

September 16th, 2010
8:38 am

CT, What you are referring to is Cap and Trade and it is not science it is a scam.

What the Obama administration has rammed through Congress in the name of saving the environment is not only a hoax of draconian proportions (that Carbon Dioxide is a harmful pollutant, responsible for Global Warming) but also a means to mandating government control over all forms of energy production. By implementing an arbitrary and restrictive cap on the production of Carbon Dioxide (17 percent by 2020, compared to 2005 levels), and then forcing high CO2 producers to buy carbon credits from zero or low CO2 producers this bill will alter and distort the current cost structure of the markets and not actually change the amount of CO2 put into the atmosphere at all. In essence this is a massive wealth transfer scheme from efficient energy producers to inefficient producers, and energy users everywhere will pay for this multi-billion dollar boondoggle.

Tony

September 16th, 2010
8:39 am

seem to remember famines have always been a part of world history- anyways- if you can see it or taste it in the air it is most likely bad and should be smartly reduced. What we don’t need is gore making 100’s of millions (to fund massages) and other countries using the issue to extort monies from the US taxpayers- see the UN

Tony

September 16th, 2010
8:40 am

good job rightwing- “hate baggers” “knuckle draggers”- you mind friend are an intellectual small child.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Imam Obama's Nobel.

September 16th, 2010
8:40 am

Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall for this meeting?

“Rahm, Jackson Jr. meet on Chicago mayor race”

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Imam Obama's Nobel.

September 16th, 2010
8:43 am

Hmm, I guess this must be Cynthia’s week to pimp “climate change”. Guess Bookman will step up to the plate next week.

So Bush understood the critical nature of “climate change” way back in 2007? I do believe that was before a lot of the “scientific” evidence they used to scare people was debunked.

So what’s up next week, CT? Perhaps another fascinating cut and paste job on “birthers”?

Good Grief

September 16th, 2010
8:47 am

Alright, CT, now you’ve done it. I usually enjoy this blog, even though I disagree with you on almost everything. But the fact that you call out everyone who disagrees with this as “anti-science know-nothings” and “flat-earthers, ” and then you tell that group to not even bother commenting proves that you cannot stand open debate.

The fact is, the science is NOT in on this. If the science was in, there would not be a strong consensus within the scientific community that more study is required.

As for your “depressing point in American politics,” perhaps more Republicans would support change if the liberal answer to climate change wasn’t wealth/income distribution. That’s the only answer we ever hear. It’s getting hot! Quick, take that guy’s money and give it to someone in a third-world country! The stupidity on this topic never ends. Of course, as you point out, businesses are selfish. I mean, how dare someone try to make a profit. Especially those evil oil companies and there “obscene” 8% profits. Before anyone gets too upset over that little ditty, go and research how much money the federal government makes in taxes off a single gallon of gasoline sold.

In the ’70s and ’80s we were warned about “global cooling” and then in the ’90s and 2000s we were warned of “global warming.” Now that we aren’t completely sure if it’s getting warmer or colder, let’s call it “climate change” and stifle the capitalist economies of the world. Never mind the China and India, the two most rapidly growing economies on the planet, are not held to the Kyoto Protocol, they have every right to get upset when the US and Australia wouldn’t sign the treaty.

I’m sorry, Cynthia, but your arrogance on this is mind-boggling.

Citizen of the World

September 16th, 2010
8:50 am

As “little people” we can do little things to reduce carbon emissions, but we need the “big people” (i.e. big business) to do the big things. Some businesses are taking responsibility on their own and doing these big things. Others are waiting for the government’s carrots and sticks. Bring on the carrots and sticks.

As for the deniers, get real.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

September 16th, 2010
8:50 am

CT, I think your screed is both accurate AND counter-productive. as an observer of the American political process you know “issues” do not exist to be resolved for the betterment of all concerned (we the People). issues exist to be exploited for the purpose of attaining and exerting leverage. the “issue” at hand is not whether climate change exists or whether or not it is anthrogenic, or the cause of food shortages in Russia. the issue at hand is the ignorance and inability of most Americans to think independent of any herd, and to seek, analyze and act upon hard data. it’s laughable that progress comes from “thinking outside the box” and the first rule of American politics is to put as many people in one’s box as possible. when you make a blanket statement (hyperbolic, or not) that the GOP is now “the party of know-nothing flat earthers” you actually sound more like a “tea party” fool than a critical thinker.

Dave from GT

September 16th, 2010
8:53 am

We should let the ChiComs lead in this area. They are the worst polluters, then followed by the Ruskies.

Energy prices are going to skyrocked anyway, because a billion ChiComs want to have 2 cars each!

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
8:53 am

If you righties really hate government intrusion then you better start actively working and working damn hard on reversing the trends.

When scarcity and deprivation set in, you’ll see serious government involvement.

When the water is gone and the food is gone and it’s too hot to stay
outside and the power grid is failed …….

Recovered Demoholic

September 16th, 2010
8:53 am

Uh-oh. Al Man-bear-pig must have talked Cynthia into putting big money in the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX).

Can anyone give me a link to a scientific model of anthropogenic global warming that has not been discredited by the the warmer-istas own faux-data and exposed subterfuges?

It has been well established that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide follow global temperature rise, rather than vice versa.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 16th, 2010
8:55 am

Warming planet? I believe there is. Consensus that it is caused by humans? Not at all and a straight up lie by you Ms Tucker. Do we need to be further taxed based on scientific theory? Only in the minds of the Democrat socialist elite. Am I surprised by the desperation of the Dems preceding the mid term elections? Nope. Why did I even read this article? I have a need for insanity every day, the liberal “tax me” mind set helps me to reach my goal. Thanks

Jimmy62

September 16th, 2010
8:56 am

The question is not whether there is warming, or if it’s man made, but whether we need to care. Waiting achieves two things: First we don’t knock ourselves backward with new restrictions on everything, thus technology will continue to advance till it finds a much cheaper solution and second, mitigating the effects of warming is much cheaper than trying to prevent what still may very well be a naturally occurring event (and there are still plenty of respected scientists who don’t agree with the man-made model, it’s not being a flat Earther to agree that it’s inconclusive).

The main point is that you are assuming the best answer is to spend ourselves into oblivion trying to prevent global warming. I disagree. Let the Earth warm, fix the symptoms. The planet won’t die, it’s been a lot warmer than this before and done just fine.

Joel

September 16th, 2010
8:56 am

CT, what an idiotic article you have written here. But hey, you are just here to fan the flames of big government.

ctucker

September 16th, 2010
8:56 am

paleo-neo@8:50, Did you read the entire post? If so, you know why I attributed that to the entire GOP

ctucker

September 16th, 2010
8:59 am

Good Grief@8:47, Scientists always say more research is needed. Of course, there are many more questions to be answered about climate change. But there is no dispute in the scientific community about two things: the climate is warming and human activity is causing it. There is dispute about how much oceans will rise, which eco-systems will be disrupted, how fast the climate is warming, etc. But those two essential elements are not in dispute.

Keep up the good fight!

September 16th, 2010
8:59 am

Joel… what part of NOTE: If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment did you not comprehend?

Rickster

September 16th, 2010
9:01 am

The founder of “The Weather Channel” called Global Warming (now known as “Global Climate Change”) “the greatest hoax” ever perpetuated. There may be evidence that shows it’s happening. (Some of it falsified.) There’s ample evidence to show it’s not.

Sorry Cynthia, that’s not “a clear scientific consensus” by even the most lenient of definitions.

Jimmy62

September 16th, 2010
9:02 am

CTucker: “But there is no dispute in the scientific community about two things: the climate is warming and human activity is causing it.” Ahh, but that’s simply not true. There are plenty of scientists who disagree that human activity is causing it. Stop lying, you can make your point without being dishonest to your readers.

Keep up the good fight!

September 16th, 2010
9:02 am

I want my planet back….Gaia.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

September 16th, 2010
9:02 am

granny, the paleo-neo-Carlinist position is; scarcity and deprivation are coming, and they are coming with or without climate change and whether or not climate change is man-made or not. deforestion, overpopulation, contamination of the environment, etc., etc. it’s pointless to warn the “greed is good/Ayn Rand was right” self-interest crowd of such things. I kinda regret I will not be around when the food riots, and “Soylent Green” era comes into play. the anarchy and erosion of society will bring new meaning to the idea of “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” because bootstraps will become the property of those who take by force, not those who hoard and sell them.

Bubba Bob

September 16th, 2010
9:05 am

“(NOTE: If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment. The clear scientific consensus indicates a warming climate caused by human activity.)”

1. Luckily there are no politics behind this whatsoever. It’s all just science. Wrong.
2. The lead scientific group behind the research has never knowingly hidden/obscured/deleted data. Wrong.
3. The most important evidence, the ‘hockey-stick graph’, is totally accurate. Wrong.

I’ll gladly fall in the ‘anti-science, know nothing crowd’ on this one.

Global warming is happening some, yes. Man-made, no.

Bubba Bob

September 16th, 2010
9:07 am

I almost forgot….

4. Proved that no other time in history was as warm as this. Wrong. (They are admitting now that the medieval period was probably warmer and couldn’t have been man-made.

Producer

September 16th, 2010
9:07 am

You’re whistling past the graveyard yet again, Cynthia. The only thing “flat” here will be the dems/socialsts after they are steamrolled in November. Oh, and did you see the strong armed attempt at getting donations by the Washington, DC sea cow, Eleanor Holmes Norton?? Unbelievable!! Did you know she’s a SENIOR member of some powerful committee? Well, the lobbyist she was attempting to intimidate certainly does now!! It’s on tape, too, by the way! I love it!! The backhoe is warming up to pat down the dirt on the dems chances this November. It will be a slaughter that will make ‘94 look like a little school yard fight!

Keep up the good fight!

September 16th, 2010
9:09 am

Carlin…you may very well be right. I hope not. I hope that the people of this country can join with others in the world to find a way to stop the march toward your future world. I have serious doubts. Its a battle against false science from the richest exploiters in the world like the Koch Brothers, leading the sheep with their astroturf and fake counter science that follows the prior successful fake science battle–smoking is not bad for your health.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

September 16th, 2010
9:11 am

CT, I guess that was my point, some poll or some survey, which include words like “many” or “those who have previously, fearing the backlash…” constitute a very broad brush (inside the box, as it were). the word “fear” is interesting (in a Kamchack kinda way). the politicians do not “fear” climate change from the perspective of a healthy planet, they “fear” the political fallout from either worrying about climate change, or ignoring it. as I noted to granny, ultimately, I don’t care if either side is right or wrong because this planet is dying and if homo sapiens speed up the process a couple thousand years, it doesn’t mean there is not some asteroid or other non-manmade event on the horizon.

Bubba Bob

September 16th, 2010
9:12 am

A little science from the from the 1996 IPCC (the global warming folks) report.

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/2001Q2/211/groupE/maya_files/image003.jpg

It became a problem and was mostly ignored. It’s making a comeback from some of their own scientists.

It couldn’t have been man-made back then.

The Last Boy Scout

September 16th, 2010
9:14 am

Leadership is what is needed and leadership is what is not going to happin. The win at any cost Repugs will watch this country go down the tubes and then blame Liberals for it…

kimmer

September 16th, 2010
9:14 am

“no-nothing flat-earthers?!?” and “If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment?!?”

Anyone else notice how much the shrillness and name-calling from Ms Tucker has intensified over the past couple of weeks? Just another sign of the political apocalypse the liberal crowd has waiting for them in November.

Joel

September 16th, 2010
9:14 am

Keep, there is not even close to being any kind of consensus on this subject. Facts be damned right.

Good Grief

September 16th, 2010
9:16 am

Cynthia, “But there is no dispute in the scientific community about two things: the climate is warming and human activity is causing it.” I can possibly agree with part one of your statement, but I cannot agree with part two. Especially knowing that the AGW-crowd claims that it is man-made CO2 that is causing temperatures to go up, but science has shown that CO2 levels don’t rise until AFTER the temp goes up. Of course, we are leaving out the fact that we’re now told the mere act of exhaling is polluting.

Also, you’ve not addressed the key economic issue on this (as conservatives view it): How does taking money from one country and giving it to another lower the global temperature?

Recovered Demoholic

September 16th, 2010
9:16 am

I am very impressed by how quickly the above rebuttals were posted.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16th, 2010
9:17 am

” (NOTE: If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment. The clear scientific consensus indicates a warming climate caused by human activity.)”

We would agree that our brainless leftist friends will not tolerate questioning their superior knowledge of the causation of a 0.01 degree possible change in world-wide temperatures. Even though the temperatures have dropped on average for the past 10 years. No doubt, this is the end of the world.

pat

September 16th, 2010
9:17 am

Must be that time of the month….

Grumpy

September 16th, 2010
9:20 am

I believe in climate change. I have no faith in Washington D.C. to craft cost-effective solutions to the problem.

The “wipe out cities and coastal towns” hyperbole has been debunked, for what it’s worth. Tossing stuff in like that only serves to devalue any arguments in your favor.

F. Sinkwich

September 16th, 2010
9:20 am

Eight billion dollars of taxpayer money goes to the EPA annually. What do we have to show for the “investment?” Energy Star appliances and a curly bulb (made in China) mandate.

How about we cut the EPA budget and headcount by 90%? Just think, 15,000 fewer people climbing into their polluting vehicles every morning to go to work. That’s gotta help this climate change thing, right?

I am such a genius.

Grumpy

September 16th, 2010
9:22 am

One quick question – what are the “enlightened” Democrats suggesting China and India do about the problem, and how do they plan to implement any plan they might have?

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
9:22 am

“Must be that time of the month”

What kind of PIG posts stuff like that?

Beneteau

September 16th, 2010
9:22 am

CT,

I cannot believe I wasted the 3 minutes it took to read your commentary. Pure drivel! We may be warming, but no fault of man. I am moving your future commentaries to the “back of the bus.”

pat

September 16th, 2010
9:22 am

“But there is no dispute in the scientific community about two things: the climate is warming and human activity is causing it.”

Somebody doesn’t do research….ThinkProgress is not a scietific research site….

This should be easy then, show the difinative proof that people have cause the climate to warm. PROOVE IT..

Allow the back peddling to begin.

Keep up the good fight!

September 16th, 2010
9:23 am

Joel, please do show me an independent assessment from reliable scientists and not those bought by the likes of Koch and others like the Cato Institute.

Here let me get you started. Try Politifact: First off, we should note that while there are some who disagree about the existence of global warming, the overwhelming consensus among scientists who study the climate is that it does, and that humans are worsening it.

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
9:23 am

Grumpy

The enlightened set the example.

Ever raised kids?

pat

September 16th, 2010
9:24 am

Oooops, I meant PROVE IT…

JMiles

September 16th, 2010
9:26 am

We are in very scary and dangerous times. people who can’t see that our environment and world is in trouble are so one minded and thick that it’s scary. When you are in the middle of the next super hurricane or wildfire or watch your coastline erode because of what is happening to the environment than maybe you’ll finally realize what dire straights we are in the middle of. With GOP it’s all about how they totally twist anything that is good for the world around into what works from them-and that is sending a message of fear and hate to the weak and make sure their friends in Big Business get as many tax breaks and unregulated perks they can throw their way.One Day when this because a true world wide crisis and they look at their Grandchildren and see what kind of world they have left them they may finally get the message,but I doubt it

pat

September 16th, 2010
9:26 am

Don’t prove it with politcal talking heads, I want the scientific proof….BTW. Because if you actually have the diffinitive link, I will personally write a letter to the Nobel folks on your behalf.

Peadawg

September 16th, 2010
9:26 am

“NOTE: If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment.”

Typical Libtard Tucker…if you don’t agree w/ me then you don’t know anything.

“Science has shown us that there has been a gradual warming of the earth over the last 50 years. What is not as clear is whether the cause for this warming is man-made emissions, a cyclical warming of the planet, or a combination of both.”

This is what I do agree with.

Some People are stupid

September 16th, 2010
9:27 am

I would like to see some of this discredited eveidence. Could someone post a link or something to a scientist that disagrees with the man made global warming theory.

Bubba Bob-
UHmm, did you read the article associated with that link you published. Or did you just find a graph to prove your point without reading the article associated with that graph.

Nothing Is Free

September 16th, 2010
9:27 am

The best days for our environment are the days that the government gets a holiday.

About half the traffic on the roads and about 90% of the monster SUVs off the road.

And BTW, Libs (Including the attack dog of the plantation) nice name calling today.

Poor pathetic losers (You too, plantation queen)

You are going to lose soooooo badly in November.

I have a feeling that the name calling is going to get a lot worse by then and doesn’t that look good on you?