From the alternative universe, GOP plans for another government shutdown

For several months now, Newt Gingrich has been engaging in a revisionist history of his government shutdown of 1995, claiming that it was not only a good fiscal move but also great partisan politics.
That claim was so obviously nuts that there seemed little point in rebutting it. The government shutdown was disastrous for the Republicans in Congress. The public hated it, and it probably helped Bill Clinton to win re-election in 1996. Enuf said?
Apparently not. Ga. Congressman Lynn Westmoreland has joined the Gingrich bandwagon, calling for a government shutdown if Republicans win the House. (h/t Dave Weigel):

Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) addressed the Faith & Freedom Conference with a hook you’re hearing more and more often. He reminded the crowd that after Republicans won Congress in 1994, they forced a fight over the budget with President Clinton.

“The government shut down,” said Westmoreland — and the crowd started cheering. “That’s what I wanted to hear! A good clap for that!”

According to Westmoreland, if they won a House majority Republicans were going to be “ready to hold the line and get those courageous men and woman” in the new class to stand fast and shut down the government. How would they avoid a repeat of 1995/1996, when the public turned against the shutdown and the GOP buckled?

“We want you with us,” said Westmoreland. “We gotta have you there. Because they’re going to come and say, ‘Daddy can’t go to the VA, the national parks are closed’ … we need to make sure you’re going to be with us.”

For a bit of reality, here are excerpts from a Washington Post news story from Dec. 1995:

As House Plan Flops, GOP Shifts the Blame For Federal Shutdown

For two weeks, House Republicans behaved like belligerent true believers, so determined or desperate to achieve a balanced budget that they were willing to keep the government closed until they got their way.

Day after day, as they took a drubbing in the court of public opinion, their position hard ened. Committee chairmen stormed to the well of the House to quote Winston S. Churchill in full roar, promising “We shall never surrender.”

Only three days ago, Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) issued a public declaration that his troops — utterly frustrated in their dealings with the Clinton administration — would never vote to reopen the government unless a balanced budget deal had been reached.

That seemed to change Friday, when House Republicans suddenly began portraying themselves as friends of the federal work force and boasted of a plan that would return furloughed public employees to their jobs.

152 comments Add your comment

Tech Man

September 13th, 2010
8:36 pm

Keep up the good fight!
September 13th, 2010
7:50 pm
Thank you for your response.
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Yes, I remember the Republican uses reconciliation to pass the tax cuts and that is why there was a 10 year limit. Liberals have been screaming for 10 years about it. So when Obama, Pelosi, Reed use reconciliation and cooked books to make Obamacare “revenue neutral” so the sunset provisions don’t apply you realize why old, close to retirement age, cheap business owners are complaining.
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you need to ask the crazy cons why the rich like Koch Brothers
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No, I benefit when others make money. Then they spend more with me. It’s ironic that the top of the top don’t have earned income to claim. Their earnings are from their investments. Now that Obama wants to tax some of that it is funny to see Mort and crew in Colorado reaming out the tax policy. When it was earned income they were all for it because it didn’t really affect them.
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Astroturf – you must also mean the union people bussed around the country.
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Hopefully you would benefit from some of the small business bills the Dems. I highy doubt it. Sales organizations are not big in R&D and expanding people will most likely be on a 1099 basis. I prefer to have some cash in my pocket to invest in what I think will make my business grow not some jump through the hoops rules Obama and company create.
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The end result will be we will comply with whatever is passed and will make the best of it for as long as Obama’s new regs allow us to exist which may be as short as two years or 2014.

brokebottom

September 13th, 2010
8:46 pm

Whatever it takes to rid America of the likes of Obama. Cynthia, if this is going to hurt the GOP so badly, why are you whining? Besides Obama has done everything but shut down our government. Redistribution of wealth, health care conceived and approved behing closed doors, a failed stimulus and all of the other goofy concepts that this president has fostered. Obama was not ready to be president. He let his communist friends convince him he was the man for the job. He was not and never will be a fit president. And please let him take his whining public speeches back to the oval room closet for practice. Adios to this one termer.

Nothing Is Free

September 13th, 2010
9:04 pm

Keep acting like a fool

So you start the post with an insult that would make any middle schooler embarrassed for you, you use a line from a comedy movie as a reference and then you tell me that when I am ready for an intellectual discussion, drop in.

As usual, you have made yourself out to be a fool much better than I ever could.

Sandman053

September 13th, 2010
9:07 pm

I just don’t understand the shutting down the government thing….if they are non-essential employees, then why the heck are they there in the first place?

lynnie gal

September 13th, 2010
9:20 pm

I hope they do it! This will affect all those retired white tea partying deadbeats on social security and medicare who have been screaming about getting a healthcare deal for everyone else. It’s time they got their due from their heros, Newt, Palin, Beck and Limpbawl. I’d love to see how they’ll do when the checks stop coming from the government they hate so much.

Bob

September 13th, 2010
9:20 pm

That would be such a disaster, can you imagine the states and cities trying to get by without the likes of Nancy Pelosi guiding us gently through the tough times we face today. How can we be safe from the long arm of corporate greed if we did not have our own John Lewis leading us dowm the path of certainty and prosperity. Why are these mean republicans going to cut us off from our savior, big gov ?

Nute Gingrich

September 13th, 2010
9:55 pm

What we need to do is get rid of abortion on demand. We have to keep marriage a sacred institution between man and woman. Reagan never deficit spend and everybody was afraid of him after we won the cold war. We need tax cuts for the rich because what history shows is when the rich keep their money they create jobs with it. What we need is prayer back in school too. If it weren’t for the radical muslims Obama wouldn’t be president because most of the nation wouldn’t have voted for him if they’d have known he’d ram healthcare down our throats. If Sarah Palin was VP now we would be the most respected and admire republic in the world. We need to get rid of Social Security because mutual fund companies are cheaper and you will definitely make money. All the warnings about the risk of loss wouldn’t be there if Obama and co. would take their mitts off business and let the free market work. The stock market has never crashed and if you invested all the money from social security into the stock market instead then everybody in america would be rich, nobody would be poor if we put religion back in schools. Churches would feed and clothe the poor like they always have. Bush kept us safe. When Clinton didn’t do anything about the USS Cole then 9/11 would never have happened because Dar Es Salaam is right beside Kabul, where bin Laden was able to walk to when Clinton tied the military’s arm behind its back.

TnGelding

September 13th, 2010
10:02 pm

No need to worry. The Tea Party candidates will flame out in the weeks leading up to the election, and Obama has finally taken the gloves off. Let’s rumble!

Nothing Is Free

September 13th, 2010
10:28 pm

TnGelding

The skinny little lawyer with the worst job approval ratings at this time in his administration is taking off his gloves?

I am terrified!!!

MAC

September 13th, 2010
10:29 pm

Williebkind

September 13th, 2010
10:53 pm

I remember the so called government shut down! Only services needed run the country was targeted to remain open. I ask you Cynthia, “Is that not what the American people want?” Less government and more bang for their buck!

Williebkind

September 13th, 2010
10:55 pm

OMG that should be “were targeted not was targeted”. I am to be lambasted now!

Mike

September 13th, 2010
11:06 pm

Republicans: Poopy

susan

September 13th, 2010
11:19 pm

This is it – I have tried to read your opinion pieces but it is always the same thing – racism, republicans stink, lalalalalalala. Why you have been allowed to work for the AJC all these years is a testament to their falling readership. Try to look at things from both sides CT and come up with something that will shock your readers. I had never paid attention to you before and I had a friend tell me that I needed to start reading your articles (she was laughing when she said it). I have read for about one month now and have seen absolutely nothing new from you other than the same rantings that inform everyone that you hate republicans and most conservative white people are racist. The real news would be if CT would come up with some new opinions than those you have been giving for a month and according to some of your readers for years! Bore!

Nothing Is Free

September 13th, 2010
11:37 pm

susan

You are asking her to give up her career.

If she stops being racially divisive, who would read what she writes?

That’s probably being unfair on my part because I have never read anything she wrote that had any heart to it, so she might be the next Sam Clemens for all I know.

She may have a passion for travel, antiques, archeology, astronomy, writing fiction, who knows? But the rule in the media is that you dance with the one that brought you and racially divisive articles is what got the attention of the mainstream media.

So now she is a tool for the Democratic Party who lives and breaths the mantra of “Us vs.Them”. And with race being their big hammer this year, she would be crazy not to ride the lighting until we can start to get along again.

Just my two cents.

susan

September 13th, 2010
11:54 pm

Nothing is Free

I agree – it is unfortunate that she has chose a career in journalism – These articles are a reminder of how far journalism has fallen. Years ago writers like CT would not have been able to find a job – As I stated earlier no wonder newspapers (including the AJC) have lost so many readers. You would think that the AJC and other major newspapers would understand that their liberal bias is a big part of the readership loss. I know – I work in the newspaper business and talk to a lot of the customers that cancel their subscriptions. I have enjoyed reading your comments from some of her other articles.

Telly B

September 14th, 2010
12:05 am

People please — there are liberal commentators/bloggers and there are conservative bloggers. Ms. Tucker is a liberal blogger; Kyle Wingfield is a conservative blogger and his comments have a conservative slant. Ms. Tucker has a liberal slant; it’s not rocket science. I read these blogs fairly often and think most people comment based on their already-established liberal or conservative leaning. I don’t think Ms. Tucker or Mr. Wingfield are “tools” for either political party, but instead are commenting based on their political leanings. It’s nothing new and I think we all should just acknowledge that and stop being so petty.

And another thing, I often see comments on the AJC’s declining subcribers. I would be surprised if it didn’t have more to do with more people, like me, who have decided to go paperless to save money and for convenience. Newspapers all over the country have declining subscribers. It’s simply changing times IMHO.

Nothing Is Free

September 14th, 2010
12:19 am

susan

She might be a great journalist. Who would know?

I also work in the media. If I had been button-holed to direct ultra conservative shows like Hannity or Beck, I would have never had the experiences I have had or seen what I have seen. I would be much better off financially, but I love what I do, even though I sometimes wonder who would watch the stuff I produce.

I’m a lucky man. but we are all Americans so who among us are not the ultimate lottery winners when you consider how many people have been born on this planet and here we are, at the sunrise of this new millennium, living and loving in the good old U.S. of A. Of the billions and billions that have been born, we hit the ultimate jackpot.

susan

September 14th, 2010
12:25 am

Telly B

I agree that there are conservative and liberal bloggers. I read quite a few of both. However, CT’s blogs are insulting, extremely one-sided, and repetitive. I enjoy reading blogs from people with different ideas. What Ms. Tucker does is try to pit one political side against the other. As far as your comment about newspapers and readers going paperless I would agree. I know my children would much rather read their news online due to time contraints. What is a concern to print companies is how many readers we have lost due to what the reader construes as medial liberal bias. As I said I work in the news business and I hear these comments from customers on a continual basis. One of the problems that newspapers are encountering is that the majority of top editors for the opinion pages and the news pages are very liberal. This comes out in their opinion pieces and their articles. In addition, I realize that Ms. Tucker has a blog but her articles are also published in the hard copy of the paper. Most of the people that purchase the paper do not lean as far to the left as Ms. Tucker and will not continue to purchase the paper when she has basically called her reader a racist and an idiot.

susan

September 14th, 2010
12:27 am

Nothing is Free

You are 100% right! We are extremely lucky and have been blessed to live our lives in this free country!

Nothing Is Free

September 14th, 2010
12:29 am

Telly B

Ms Tucker’s liberal slant is not what made her the darling of MSNBC. It is her racial divisiveness and her attractiveness that has put her there. When pretty people say something, it seems to mean more.

A well spoken, educated attractive Black female who is willing to carry the banner for the Party of George Wallace . . . yes, she is being used and considering the racially divisive mantra of the democratic Party, she has some really good job security.

There’s lots of reasons why Newspapers are folding. Cost of printing is one of the main reasons. The AJC is usually 4-8 pages long and what does it cost now? Isn’t it like a buck during the week and their big selling point for the Sunday edition is the coupons you can clip? Three reporters used to cover the Capitol and now one covers the capitol and a large part of the city and state so the coverage just absolutely sucks.

But of course local TV News is also in trouble.

The big surprise to me is that only Rupert Murdock has been the only tycoon who has figured out the huge market demand for a conservative leaning network. FOX came on line in 92 and it’s still the only one.

Wouldn’t it be a real hoot to have an actual News Network and not the mouth piece for either party?

Nothing Is Free

September 14th, 2010
1:03 am

susan

I think the most telling thing about her articles is the amount of cut and paste from other authors. That screams that she is only at the AJC to make that paycheck and her real love is elsewhere, probably setting under those tungsten TV lights, giving her support for the racist agenda of the democratic Party.

Pundits just don’t make much more than the plane fare and housing so she needs the AJC. Would MSNBC kick her to the curb if they could no longer intro her as a journalist for a major US newspaper? I don’t know. But I’m sure she wonders what would happen if a big dog at the network decides that her usefulness as an attack dog would dry up.

CNN gave Joy Bayhar (SP?) her own show and she is pretty horrible, but she is white and these are the democrats. They have no problem using Black people but they almost never let them have their own shows, and that includes all the mainstream media.

And sadly that also includes FOX even though I’m pretty sure FOX would hire Herman Cain long before MSNBC would give Ms Tucker her own show.

HCo

September 14th, 2010
1:06 am

Shut down the government while we are fighting a war? Is that what Newt said?

kevinbgoode

September 14th, 2010
4:45 am

susan sez: ” What is a concern to print companies is how many readers we have lost due to what the reader construes as medial liberal bias. As I said I work in the news business and I hear these comments from customers on a continual basis. One of the problems that newspapers are encountering is that the majority of top editors for the opinion pages and the news pages are very liberal. This comes out in their opinion pieces and their articles.”

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You have obviously never studied either the history of newspapers or anything having to do with agendasetting and gatekeeping theories. Merely repeating some memorized mantra about perceptions about bias, (especially targeting only one ideology) clearly indicates that you are shilling for another ideological point of view.
So. . .you claim the “majority of top editors for the opinion pages and the news pages are very liberal. This comes out in their opinion pages and their news articles.”

Please provide us your research design to make this determination.

He turned me into a Newt

September 14th, 2010
6:57 am

Ms. Tucker,
You leave out the best part of the story. I shut down the government because I didn’t get a seat at the front of Air Force One for Prime Minister Rabin’s funeral.

Newt in 2012: “Leadership the 4 year old way”…take your ball and go home style.

TnGelding

September 14th, 2010
6:59 am

Nothing Is Free

September 13th, 2010
10:28 pm

That skinny little lawyer knows how to kick GOP butt and has proved it. That said, his style resembles the New England cowboy too much for my blood. He needs to be more like the Man from Hope.

Memo to GOP: know when to say no.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 14th, 2010
7:32 am

Dear, dear, woe is me. How can we survive a week without the highly paid lawyers at the SEC? What will we do without the bureaucrats blocking drugs at the FDA? What if – horrrors! – the FTC is not there to do whatever the heck they do? How can we unthinking people survive such a vicious world without Big Brother?

ken

September 14th, 2010
7:35 am

Cuba has the right idea. Get rid if govt employees NOW. November please.

Cynthia Is Sexy!!

September 14th, 2010
8:04 am

Cuba is eliminating 500,000 jobs. Im sure we could “trim the fat” “weed out the weakling” “cull the deadwood” by so much more.

These lazy, sorry, good for nothing, State/Federal employees need to be fired.

South Georgia Farmer

September 14th, 2010
8:08 am

Ronin, are you saying no air traffic contorllers, no social security checks for grandma, no VA hospital medical help for veterans, no military, no inspections of roads and bridges, no FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, no inspections of foods and drugs, no student loans and grants for college students, no inspections of mines and oil wells and drilling, no one to prosecute criminals, no one running federal prisons and on and on? Is that what you are saying?

ButtHead

September 14th, 2010
8:09 am

With the government so out of touch with American’s a shutdown would be beneficial to the people. That means that the less these losers do the better off we are… Maybe the maid set should be that the only way that the congress/senate/house gets together is to CUT spending. No new spending till we balance the budget and start paying back our children.

Peadawg

September 14th, 2010
8:14 am

“so determined or desperate to achieve a balanced budget”

What’s wrong with this exactly?

skydog

September 14th, 2010
8:25 am

Susan /Nothing is Free….get a room and close the blinds please.

LESS GOVERNMENT! Screw the Gulf of Mexico. I buy and sell shrimp from Korea.

Let um die on the curb outside the emergency room! Jesus can`t afford no deadbeats.

Drill Baby Drill! Repubs LAST great Mantra.

We could save tons of energy if John “the orangeman” Boner turned of that tanning bed.
WTF? Does he NOT know he is ORANGE? Does he not have friends that would say, John, You are orange.

Big D

September 14th, 2010
8:26 am

Ct…You know whats really funny…you and your ilk love to refer back to Clinton’s balanced budget and surplus and you just proved that you knew all along it was a GOP Congress that was willing to take a P.R. hit to do it…Thank YOU>>>

Big D

September 14th, 2010
8:29 am

SGF….Can you pay for anything when you have NO money in your checking account????
This country is way beyond broke and we need to reel in our Rodeo Drive budget President.

skydog

September 14th, 2010
8:40 am

…..or we could do like Bush did and hide the expenses.
Better a Rodeo Drive budget President than a brush clearing War Criminal who was trying to FORCE end of days stupidity.

Larry

September 14th, 2010
8:45 am

But Cynthia, you keep telling us that the budget deficit is a Republican problem and now you go and show that the Republican’s did try to balance the budget. Very interesting spin on this and now you are trying to say that is revisionist…..

David S

September 14th, 2010
8:46 am

Whoever wants to shut down the federal government has my support. I remember the first time it happened. I still have the newspaper headline framed at my house. What a wonderful day. This is finally a suggestion from the Republicans that would do some good for the country.

ctucker

September 14th, 2010
8:47 am

Larry@8:45, By the time Clinton left office, the budget was balanced. What happened since then?

ctucker

September 14th, 2010
8:50 am

Big D@8:26, it was a compromise between Republicans and Democrats that produced that balanced budget. Part of the compromise was a TAX INCREASE.

Larry

September 14th, 2010
9:28 am

Here are a few…

.com burst caused by investor greed and ignorance
9/11
the Iraq war
the Afganistan war
Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae meltdown leading to
the housing bubble burst
uncontrolled spending by both parties
uncontrolled expansion of Federal government
an aging workforce
and I can’t wait to see the impact of Obamacare coming at you in the later part of this decade….

Big D

September 14th, 2010
9:38 am

Skydog…??? Name says it all..out there.
CT,Good point …GOP TRYING and working with a President..yes GOP Congress can do it..NO Obama Can’t

Joseph Pinto

September 14th, 2010
9:38 am

FIRE CYNTHIA— I think all your OPED pieces are a ‘witty’ paragraph written by you with no substance or argument. Then you quote another news source. Start doing some real journalism and take your garbage to some other city.

ctucker

September 14th, 2010
9:47 am

Pinto@9:38, I have a better idea: Why don’t you take your “garbage” comments to another blog?

The Thin Guy

September 14th, 2010
9:50 am

Yes the last POTUS to balance the budget was a Democrat. His name was Andrew Jackson. Essential services will be maintained during a federal government shutdown. The IRS will still be adding 50k new employees to collect taxes from those of us who work for a living. The vacation budget for the occupants of the White House will not be decreased. And the light bulb police will be coming to your house to make sure you don’t have any of those incandescent bulbs. I’ll miss my letter carrier delivering all the exciting mail about the really great bargains to be had at what stores are still in business during The Great Pelosi Depression. Look at the bright side, C-SPAN might have something interesting to watch.

From Where I Sit

September 14th, 2010
9:51 am

Hey lynnie gal,

That is not the problem. The problem is Barry has continued to spend, and he nor Congress has done NOTHING since he has been in office.

Next, we still have too many takers in America. These are people that think that they are entitled to the government taking care of them. Therefore, they continue to take and take, rather than work and pay their share of taxes. These are most of the people who voted for this loser in the first place. America will be better off with Republicans in charge as they along with the Tea Party loves America and they do not blame America and point fingers at the previous administration for their own failures.

Barry is gone in 2012!

Enough Said!

williebkind

September 14th, 2010
9:52 am

Bill Clinton shut the military down. That is how he lowered federal spending. He destroyed military intelligence. Then 911 happened. Is that a coincidence?

ctucker

September 14th, 2010
9:59 am

williebkind, I missed the time when Clinton “Shut the military down.” Can you give me the years and months when that happened? Did al-Qaida know? The North Koreans?

skydog

September 14th, 2010
10:00 am

Yeah Big D, I`m out there.
I design and build your bridges and oil refinerys. You better hope I use very good logic and common sense.
What about your nickname Big D? Some kind of envy going on?

Big D

September 14th, 2010
10:09 am

Off topic, but relevant…This quasi tax break for the middle class and not for the “rich” is another smoke and mirror play by Obama. Most of the “rich” are middle class individuals running small businesses that employ most of the non-governmental work force…SO…want to see small business go further down just go ahead and not extend the Bush tax incentive. This will give us more unemployment AND less tax base to draw from…if you have any idea how that tax thing works…clue: more people work more people pay taxes, you know make a little on a lot, not a lot a few.