Why do Haley Barbour and his black classmate remember Ole Miss differently?

A truism of human nature is that people tend to see the same event from different perspectives, sometimes vastly different. And, as a black Southerner, I can testify to the very different perspectives black and white Southerners of about my age often bring to segregation and the civil rights movement.

In a recent interview with the conservative magazine Human Events, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour had very sunny and pleasant memories of desegregation, as well as a self-serving and historically inaccurate description of the role Southern Republicans played. Washington Post columnist Gene Robinson ripped Barbour to shreds over that in a recent column.

I agree with Robinson wholeheartedly about Barbour’s deliberate political misinterpretations, but I’m also fascinated by his personal memories of his student days at Ole Miss in the mid-1960s. I remember that era as one of fiery segregations attempting to keep black kids out of state-sponsored schools, but Barbour, speaking to a group of reporters on Wednesday, claimed to remember that time as quite pleasant.

Maybe he does remember it that way. But one of his black classmates, interviewed by McClatchy, has very different memories:

It’s hard to believe that Haley Barbour and Verna Bailey attended the same University of Mississippi in 1965, and even sat next to each other in a class.

Barbour, who’s now the governor of Mississippi and a possible contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, recalls that time — when Ole Miss was being forced to integrate — as “a very pleasant experience.”

Bailey does not. At times, she said, “I thought my life was going to end.”

He’s white. She was the first black female to attend.

Their seats were assigned alphabetically, and he said they developed a friendly rapport. She let him copy her notes when he skipped class.

“I still love her,” he quipped.

He remembers her name almost as if it were yesterday, though he’d recalled her middle name as Lee. It’s Ann. . .

In an interview last month with the conservative magazine and website Human Events, Barbour said it was “my generation who went to integrated schools. I went to an integrated college, never thought twice about it.”

It was the old Democrats who clung to segregation, he said. “By my time people realized that was the past, that was indefensible, wasn’t going to be that way anymore.” He said that “the people who really changed the South from Democrat to Republican (were) a different generation from those who fought integration.”

That interview set off a backlash from black commentators, who accused Barbour of everything from being clueless to pushing revisionist history.

Barbour defended those comments Wednesday at a Washington reporters’ breakfast.

“When I became a Republican in the late ’60s, in my state and probably some other Southern states the hard right were all Democrats,” he said. “They didn’t want to have Republicans because, in their words, ‘It split the white vote.’ And young people were more likely to be Republicans than our grandparents.”

That’s when he brought up Bailey.

He said she was “a very nice girl” who “happened to be an African-American, and, God bless her, she let me copy her notes the whole time. And since I was not prone to go to class every day, I considered it a great — it was a great thing, it was just — there was nothing to it. If she remembers it, I would be surprised. She was just another student. I was the student next to her.”

Bailey, reached by phone, reacted to Barbour’s story with surprise that bordered on confusion.

“I don’t remember him at all, no, because during that time that certainly wasn’t a pleasant experience for me,” she said. “My interactions with white people were very, very limited. Very, very few reached out at all.”

I don’t think either of them is lying. But it’s clear that Barbour, a white man, and Bailey, a black woman, had very different experiences at Ole Miss in 1965, something Barbour never noticed.

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paleo-neo-Carlinist

September 10th, 2010
3:24 pm

CT, it’s Friday, take the rest of the day off. fair or unfiar, honest or dishonest, people remember what they choose to remember and forget what they choose to forget. do you actually think the Guv-nah of Mississippi, who may be “polling” for a shot at the POTUS gonna rememember ANYTHING that would reflect negatively on the State of Mississippi or the GOP? he said/she said “reality TV” nonsense and nothing more. politicians are not dummies; Ronald Reagan “didn’t remember” trading arms for hostages in the 1980’s. nowadays it’s more prudent to remember things nobdody else remembers (you appear less feable-minded). either way, this was 45 years ago.

Jack

September 10th, 2010
3:25 pm

There’s going be a column here one day that I can read and say that Tucker is trying to heal the divide. But not today.

ctucker

September 10th, 2010
3:25 pm

paleo@3:24, Thanks for giving me the rest of the day off! Whew! I needed that

ctucker

September 10th, 2010
3:28 pm

Jack3:25, I think we can only be serious about healing the divide when we are willing to be serious — and respectful — in acknowledging the differences in our various perspectives.

Joel

September 10th, 2010
3:28 pm

Maybe Bailey has a chip on her shoulder?

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ctucker

September 10th, 2010
3:31 pm

Joel@3:28, If you read what she had to say, it certainly doesn’t sound like it

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
3:31 pm

ctucker

Please list the Republican leaders from the South that supported segregation.

I’ll make it easier: Name one.

You are on the plantation, girl. I know you don’t want to hear that but the people that wanted to lay down in front of buses were not Republicans, they were DEMOCRATS every time.

And now they own you.

Stop supporting people that think of Black people as pets that they can use to keep the hatred going and step into the 21st century. Then look back and take a look at the condition of many people of your race. How many are in prison. How many children have no idea who their father is?
Very simply put: how has that Democratic leadership worked out for people of color?

So many African Americans say” the Republicans don’t “court” us like the democrats do. Yes the democrats are lying out of their _____’s and they work like the dickens to see that the schools remain segregated (the actual reason for the great Society), but at least they care enough to lie to us.

What kind of logic is that?

But please ( I know you won’t because you can’t) list all those mean old Republicans that ran the South during the 50s and 60s. I’m sure that old “Solid South” meant nothing related to the fact that it was solidly democratic.

Joel

September 10th, 2010
3:33 pm

CT, I am just throwing it out there. I do not claim to know anything about her.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
3:36 pm

Well let’s see. I was only 10 years later attending college. I lived in both in the north and the south growing up, including southwestern Virgina. Maybe because I am a little younger my memory is a little sharper than Haley’s. I remember integrated schools as being a big deal. Discussions of what was appropriate behavior for a N (and it was not a PC word) and even what was a white lunch table and a N table at school. But I guess between those fabulous integrated 60s things must have backslid in the 70s for a bit. Many of the people I met daily in the 70s in the south sure did not seem to think racism and integration was a thing of the past. I can certainly also remember tremendous outrage when a white girl dated outside her race.

I suspect that Mr. Barbour’s current world differs dramatically different than those of many other races.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
3:42 pm

Keep up the good whine

I was born in Southwest Virginia and lived in North East Tennessee. Please don’t tell me that you are from Bristol.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
3:44 pm

Free…as usual you want to argue silliness. Yep, no doubt about it. Democrats had any number of racists in the 1950’s and then there were changes. Leaders like Kennedy, Johnson and others. Let’s see, who sent federal troops to protect those blacks entering schools in Mississippi and Alabama….why I do believe there was a D after that name. Why David Duke became so offended he changed parties from D to R. Wallace left the Dems. A number of others left the Dems in the 1960s and later…where did those former Southern Dems go because they felt betrayed by their party in the 1960s and by the Kennedy/Johnson groups….seems they put Rs next to their names.

Joel

September 10th, 2010
3:44 pm

Keep Up… maybe I am picking up the wrong vibe here. It seems like you almost want there to have been racism, and poor treatment. Now I was not there so I may be wrong here. As with the discussion from this morning, could it be radical extreme of southerners were racist, while most were not. As I said before I am was not around than.

Mid-South Philosopher

September 10th, 2010
3:45 pm

I remember the segregation era too, Miss Cynthia. In many ways it was a dark and evil time, yet, it held promise, and much of that promise has been realized.

A group of unsung heroes in that day were the school teachers, both white and black, who met the challenge of the moment and strove to provide the best education possible to youngster regardless of color.

What we often forget is that MOST of the school systems in the south integrated with a minimum of disruption. Of course, that came after the daunting days of Little Rock and many other areas where racism flared.

I remember well, my first black teacher in high school…a good man, a fair man, but over and above all else…a teacher.

That is what I remember most from that era.

Jack

September 10th, 2010
3:48 pm

Fomenting discomfort & ill-feelings among folks is certainly not a serious healing process.

The Boner's Tan Line

September 10th, 2010
3:48 pm

Haley’s jealous because my tanning machine is better than his. Also he hates his first name.

Joel

September 10th, 2010
3:49 pm

Haley is kinda a crappy name, huh?

M. Rowan

September 10th, 2010
3:50 pm

Cynthia, you are the reason that race is even still an issue today. Newsflash! The President of the United States, aka. the most powerful man in the world, is a black man. You can achieve absolutely anything in this country, regardless of race.

I will admit the past isn’t necessarily a pretty picture, but it is just that…….the past. Start writing about how hopeful the future is, and stop dwelling on history, and a story that happened in 1965, 40 years ago.

M. Rowan

September 10th, 2010
3:51 pm

40 + years ago

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
3:52 pm

Joel…pure silly post. I acknowledge that there is racism. I dont support it and I do my best to fight it. Having lived through it, I also acknowledge that while gains have been made, it still exists. It is not eliminated but like many other things in live, it has gone underground in some areas until it pops up like an ugly rodent in times. The impacts of the 50s, 60s and 70s are not gone. I saw racism in schools in the North. I have seen it in the South. We can all hope that one day it will be gone but it is not. Nothing is Free and others have proven that with his posts over the past few days. Oh they try to claim is in not racial but I remember some of the same debates in high school. And since 2008 it has seemingly been like a scab scrapped off to open the wounds.

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
3:52 pm

Cynthia Tucker, “Keeping the HATE alive!”

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
3:54 pm

Keep

Kennedy desperately wanted compromises added to the Voting Rights Act because he didn’t think the Dixiecrats would pass it.

Johnson also didn’t think the Dixiecrats would pass it so demanded that it be presented in the exact verbiage that the Republicans that drew it up in 1958 had used. He was convinced that once it hit the floor of the House that it would instantly be buried by the Dixiecrats and that would be that.

Johnson was a segregationist. His record before he became president was abysmal.

It doesn’t matter how many times Democrats claim that both parties were responsible for Segregation, it simply was not true.

You talk about who sent in troops. Yes, once the tide began to turn in favor of integration, democrats were screaming “to the bandwagon” but what president had the courage to send in troops to protect the Little Rock Nine, long before any Democrats would have ever considered supporting any black cause. Do you know?

And what was the political Party of the Arkansas Gov. that had refused to admit those kids? Do you even know the governor’s name?

ctucker

September 10th, 2010
3:55 pm

M. Rowan@3:50, Wow, you mean to tell me that I have that much power? I’m singlehandedly “the reason that race is even still an issue today.” No one else has anything to do with that?

hotlanta

September 10th, 2010
3:55 pm

Wow we have a black President and just like Lucky Charms cereal racism is going to “magically disappear. What have you been eating Fruit Loops or coo-coo for CoCo Puffs. I am going to eat some Rasin Bran and flush your comment down the toilet.

AlatSea

September 10th, 2010
3:56 pm

Interesting cut and paste, but unfortunately the majority of your race still act like they are on the plantation. The black man needs to make an effort to close this divide. They have taken treat me equal to a point that is not realistic. They are raised in a culture that keeps them as second class citizens. I worked for HUD in the mid-west during the 70’s, my responsibility was to relocate black families from the run down neighborhoods they lived in to apartment complexes built for them with tax payer money. They paid little or no rent, that was also subsidized by taxpayers. While doing required inspections of these relocated families, some, not all, had cut doorways in their walls into the next apartment so they could hang together in some tribal way. When questioned why, they told me that these were their homes and could what ever they liked. This is similar to the Cabrini Green complex in Chicago. It lead many people to believe that you could take the black from the ghetto but could not take the ghetto out of the black man Nothing here is meant to be taken as racist, it facts.

Hey if anybody sees that keep fightin guy tell him I’m looking for him

Tommy Maddox

September 10th, 2010
3:59 pm

Now folks don’t go blaming Democrats being in charge of Southern States during the days of segregation. You know we’re gonna hear about racist democrats who invaded and populated the GOP…

Didn’t CT attempt a Haley hit-job earlier this week?

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:00 pm

Correction:

The Republicans did not draw up the Voting Rights act in 1958. They altered the original Voting Rights Act of 1872 (also drawn up by a Republican) that had been struck down for violations of the interstate commerce clause. They corrected the violation and after much fighting with Democrats, this was the actual Voting Rights Act that was adopted in 1964.

AlatSea

September 10th, 2010
4:00 pm

Keep up the good fight!
September 10th, 2010
3:52 pm

My god man you are amazing, is there anything you have not done, seen, corrected or made better?

Your full of yourself so get back in the sand. Please give me your condescending retort humiliate me in front of others I know this gets you sexually excited.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
4:01 pm

Why Nothing….you can use wikipedia to find your answers….. Eisenhower would be proud you can do it. But then also spend some time and open your eyes to some of the other history…Truman and the dixiecrat walkout….

Some Guy

September 10th, 2010
4:02 pm

CT, You are really hung up about race! Why is that? You know the saying, “Those that protest the most usually have the most to hide.”. I think this holds true with you.

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
4:02 pm

The Socratic method of answering a question with a question is used to stimulate thought. It can also be used for clarification.

However, in Cynthia’s case, it is simply used to avoid answering a question or addressing an issue.

SouthGaDawg

September 10th, 2010
4:02 pm

CT,

Who cares? So what if he remembered it differently? He was white. Of course he wouldn’t care as much as the “first black woman” to attend Ole Miss. She was trying to be a pioneer. And I’m sure he was just there to get an education, drink and chase girls. You’re darn right it wasn’t as big of a deal for him.

Next, stop trying to “dog whistle” Barbour into being a liar. I’m sure his account of it is to the best of his memory 45 years ago. Is your memory from a year ago perfect? How about 10 years ago? How about 20 years ago? I bet not. So don’t criticize him if his memory from 45 years ago may be a little off.

Finally, why don’t you ever write any type of uplifting stories about racial, social, religous, or political unity? Instead its more of the same old drivel from you meant to drive a wedge futher between the various classes, races, and religions of America. You are truley a sad and angry person. I feel sorry for you Cynthia Tucker.

Jimmy62

September 10th, 2010
4:04 pm

Of course they had different experiences. What a silly column! I was in a fraternity in college, and I knew people who weren’t. I’m sure we had very different experiences, even without one of us having to deal with integration. I remember fraternity rush as a very pleasant experience. People who didn’t join frats often had a less pleasant experience.

This column can be summed up in one easy sentence, “Different people have different experiences even when they live in the same place.” I can’t believe you get paid to write this.

rant and roll

September 10th, 2010
4:07 pm

“Please list the Republican leaders from the South that supported segregation.”

Jesse Helms and Strom Turmond. Two Dixiecrats – that broke from the Democrtatic Party and joined the GOP.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
4:08 pm

Nothing….. since you probably did not read Gene Robinson’s article, here is an excerpt

As he signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act into law, Lyndon Johnson is supposed to have said that the Democratic Party had “lost the South for a generation.” Among those who voted against the landmark legislation was Sen. Barry Goldwater, who became Johnson’s opponent in the presidential race that fall.

Johnson scored a landslide victory. Goldwater took his home state of Arizona and just five others: Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina. It was the first time those Deep South states had voted for a Republican presidential candidate since Reconstruction — and marked the moment when, for many Southern voters, the GOP became the party of white racial grievance. It wasn’t “a different generation from those who fought integration” that made the switch. Integration was the whole reason for the switch.

hotlanta

September 10th, 2010
4:09 pm

Ms. Tucker ignore that fool they blamed OJ for bad race relations in this country. They tried to divide us by saying the black folks who said he was not guilty and yelled “YES” were bad negroes and those who said he was guilty and cried were good Negroes. They are always telling black folks to take PERSONAL responsibility for our actions but they can’t never take it for theirs. They have a court system to back them up.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:09 pm

keep

While the Northern Democrats had some disagreements with the Dixiecrats, they certainly accepted their electoral college votes to put Kennedy and Johnson in office.

YOU also may want to consider that in 1976, 12 years after Southern Schools had been integrated, the worst race riots in the country broke out in South Boston, the district of the Kennedies. THen you had Bedford Stivenson in New York City in the mid 70s.

The one thing all the districts that had horrible race problems had in common: they were ALL (both North and South) ran by Democrats.

hotlanta

September 10th, 2010
4:11 pm

Nothing I thought you was on a plane running away like Newt when he tried to get Clinton impeached but he was caught with is pants on the ground as well.

PearlJam

September 10th, 2010
4:13 pm

I was there, his side of the story is correct.
She was a very nice girl.
I’m not sure what the issue is, is she saying she was not nice?

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:14 pm

Keep

- -As he signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act into law, Lyndon Johnson is supposed to have said that the Democratic Party had “lost the South for a generation.” – -

So does that sound like he was happy it passed? Doesn’t that seem like an odd thing to say after such a great victory? It didn’t work out like he wanted. He wanted it to be buried.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:15 pm

hotlanta

Reading skills. Start working on them.

I said I had a plane to catch in the morning. That means tomorrow.

K?

halfbake

September 10th, 2010
4:15 pm

@paleo-neo-Carlinist It’s not he said she said, it’s historical facts we’re talking about here. Do you really think that the ’60s were a pleasant time for blacks in the south attending recently “desegregated” schools. Come on?

And @Joel, what would make you think this woman has a chip on her shoulder? She probably should have one, but there’s nothing in her comments that would lead you to believe that.

Do you really not believe that she was at Ole Miss during an extremely turbulent time in our nation, particularly over race?

Think before you speak. Sound the words out in your head before you dash them off in an online form. You sound cruel and heartless.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
4:17 pm

Nothing…I am well aware of what happened in Boston…I was there in 1976 – in college after graduating from high school in Virginia. Again, read my posts. I acknowledge racism is not a southern thing alone.

But your conclusion that all places where there were racial problems were solely Democratic areas is just absurd and unsupportable with real facts. Racial problems did not only exist in the 1950s, 1960 and 1970s. They existed before that and after. You also seem to ignore the most glaring issue…..The south had slavery.

But stop with the insanity. Get to the real issue. Racism is and has not ended. Its not a “Democratic” thing. Its not just in the tea party. It did not end with the election of a black president.

James

September 10th, 2010
4:17 pm

There is no end game to this madness- “I remember leading my troop up the hill at vietnam” (oh wait- maybe that was a training camp because I never left the states. ‘I never had sex with that woman”- oh wait- what is it call when a woman….. Silly political football.

JF McNamara

September 10th, 2010
4:19 pm

This is the same guy who callously cut people off of medicare in Mississippi when their were other ways to balance the budget and refused to accept the unemployment money for the stimulus that could’ve helped his constituents at no cost.

If Republicans really want this guy, they’d better look out. We’ll go from lying about Obama’s death panels to having actual death panels when he cuts off all of the social programs and pushes tort reform to the point that Big Business can murder an employee and get a $5 fee.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
4:20 pm

Nothing…. I guess you can read Johnson’s mind…. what he meant. Maybe he realized what really happened. By adopting the right position, the Dixiecrats walked over to the republican party and joined Barry Goldwater who voted against the legislation and then they made Barry their candidate. You really do have some very selective reading skills and blinders.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:21 pm

- -Wow, you mean to tell me that I have that much power? I’m singlehandedly “the reason that race is even still an issue today.” No one else has anything to do with that? –

They need you, Ms. Tucker. The democrats need people like you. The Party that fought to keep your parents from achieving now needs you so they can achieve.

Who has made you successful? The AJC, one of the most liberal newspapers in the country. YOu are a constant contributor to what Network: MSNBC, rated by Pew research as one of the most unreliable news networks in the country.

You are not the only one, but once you stop being used by the democrats, where would your career go?

A "Voice"

September 10th, 2010
4:22 pm

News Flash: Racism is not limited to whites only!

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:24 pm

Keep

So other than Strom Thurman, who were these Dixiecrats that walked over to the Republican Party?

I can save you some time. You won’t find any.

Libertarian

September 10th, 2010
4:24 pm

Will any of you acknowledge that black on white racism also exists?

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
4:26 pm

Keep up the good fight!,

You are correct, “The south had slaver.” The object word is “had”.

The Egyptians “had” slavery
The Romans “had” slavery
The south “had” slavery

It no longer exists. You don’t see the Jewish people annually recreating the crossing the Red Sea. They CELEBRATE Passover.

Blacks don’t CELEBRATE their freedom. They DWELL on the fact that they were once slaves.

Always looking back, rarely looking forward.

A Lumpkin Resident

September 10th, 2010
4:30 pm

It wasn’t even that pleasant when I was in 3rd grade in 1970…. and it really took until I graduated before things were “very pleasant”. I’m white and our school system was about 60% white and 40% black.

The white guy who went to a major college with a handful of African-Americans hardly qualifies as going to an “integrated college”.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
4:36 pm

Keep

When did I say that racism is over? Without it, the Democratic Party would not exist.

I contend that the more racism that can be channeled into the mainstream by folks like Ms. Tucker, the stronger the Democratic Party.

I think that is changing. The attacks on the Tea Party are proving to be a huge embarrassment for the Democratic Party. While there are underground walkways and trains that connect the Capitol to the areas around the Capitol, the Democrats decided to make a very rare walk through a sea of protestors that were part of the Tea Party movement. And even then, there has not been one frame of video that has substantiated any form of racism toward the Black House members. Not one. And this was after a $100,000 reward for such evidence.

But strangely enough, you believe people who can only benefit from charges of racism.

This is the problem.

There’s still a lot of racism, but when disagreeing with the POTUS means certain charges of racism, how much power can that word still have? So I’m a racist for thinking that Obama’s policies are a disaster. So what is David Duke? What is the skinny little Black guy that made the news by screaming “we all going to have to kill some cracker babies”

Your party has diminished the power of that word. It now means almost nothing.

Wow, that's Pulitzer material

September 10th, 2010
4:49 pm

While I sortof liked your column this morning, I had a sneaking suspision that you couldn’t leave for the weekend without playing the race card one more time this week. Thanks for being predictable as always. I look forward to reading about how white people are evil and how the GOP is going to be the downfall of America, on monday.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
4:50 pm

Nothing…you are not a racist for disagreeing with President Obama. You certainly do have some very questionable past posts that demonstrate a questionable veiw of the world….including…. It’s like their insistence on Affirmative Action. No other policy is more responsible for putting Black people into positions of leadership that have no idea what they are doing, making the Blacks look exactly like the democrats want them to look . . . I am not going to highlight all of them in the past few days but you presume to speak for the Black kids you went to school with….perhaps you need to review the opinion piece by Ms. Tucker. You may be doing a Barbour yourself by distorting reality or presuming you know what the “black kids” know, feel or think then and today.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

September 10th, 2010
5:06 pm

halfbake, I agree. I meant to imply there would be two sides to the story, but I wasn’t specifically using the catchphrase to because Barbour his male and Bailey is female. that said, I am not a betting man, but were I to wager, I would take the odds that Bailey’s memory is closer to reality (two sides to every story, but one side to the truth). look at it this way; what does Barbour (public office holder/seeker) have to gaine by spinning a pleasant tale? what does (the all but anonymous) Ms. Bailey have to gain by fabricating a horror story?

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
5:16 pm

Carlin…Have to disagree with you. The opinion piece as to the recollections is not about which story is more credible and where is the truth. It highlights the difference of opinion that can occur from different perspectives. What Mr. Robinson attacks in his article however is not a story of the recollections from two perspectives…it is the claims by Mr. Barbour that he went to an “integrated” school and that integration and the issues surrounding it were effectively “past history” to his generation. Yep, he went to a school where black students were forcibly admitted likely a year or two before he attended the school. But that same school had only 1 or 2 black students for several years and was not a truly integrated school, nor was it a non issue when he went to school. As Mr. Robinson notes in 1969, the Supreme Court ordered Mississippi to integrate its schools immediately. The long-stalled change took place in 1970. Mr. Barbour was out of college by then. Mr. Barbour also sent his sons to private schools rather than the integrated public schools. His “fond” recollection….. seems to be rose colored.

Scout

September 10th, 2010
5:17 pm

Who Cares ! GET OVER IT !

evonne goolagong

September 10th, 2010
5:18 pm

haley says he’s not a racist revisionist, I’ll take him at his word….

retired early

September 10th, 2010
5:23 pm

I grew up in rural Ga in the 50’s and 60’s. I am a white male and graduated from high school before integration. I am still trying to understand the unjustified pure hatred some white folks expressed towards blacks back then. Hell, you rarely had any contact with blacks in those days because things were so segregated. Things now are so much better as a direct result of integration. We interact way more now and it has made a huge difference. Is it perfect? Not by a long shot, especially now that we have a mixed race president, for those right wingers that’s hard to swallow. But for the majority of us, both blacks and whites, things are soooo much better.
I hear the It is hard to believe it took the federal gov almost 90 years to finally force the South to integrate.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
5:32 pm

There you have it folks. Move along. Scout does not care so it can’t be important or an issue with discussion. Go back to reading his other silly posts about why we should be at war with Islam or so other silliness. Yep…you are free now and for nearly 100 years we kept you segregated and deprived you of life without justice, taxed you without equal education, etc, etc…but we done stopped now, we promise…so just move along. We gotta go mistreat other races and religions. Thank you all. Scouty

Joel

September 10th, 2010
6:00 pm

Keep…. I dont know that you do try to fight racism. On the contrary I think you try to keep it alive as a crutch. You may say its silly but oh well!

Joel

September 10th, 2010
6:03 pm

I still say the majority of whites in the south back then were not racist. You may say other wise, but you cant speak for them. It was the radical wing, like your beloved radical islamists. Oh, silly me.

Avenger

September 10th, 2010
6:05 pm

nothing free. “Johnson was a segregationist. His record before he became president was abysmal.” Here is a news flash. The “MAJORITY” of Americans were for segration. It doesn’t matter what party (Dems, repubs, green,or what ever.)they were with.. How do you think the bigots stayed in office.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
6:13 pm

Joel…nope you dont know me. But you can have your own spin on my posts. “alive as a crutch” – Not sure what the crutch is or who is supported or why recollections of what occured at that time (when you were not around remember) so revisionism. But your entitled to your opinion, just not different facts of a time and era well documented in news clips and more.

Interesting how you claim that disclaim “radicals” when referencing some subjects but require others to “embrace” them when they too have disclaimed…but we are rehashing past battles you have lost.

barking frog

September 10th, 2010
6:15 pm

There’s an old saying in the south describing a crook,
‘He’d steal the nickels off a dead man’s eyes’. Fits
Haley Barbour like a glove.

willie lynch

September 10th, 2010
6:24 pm

Some keep posting this republicans saved Black people nonsense as though it’s true. Black people see the Republican party as is exsist today as hostile to anything that is not white. Yes you can point to a few republicans of color but I never see any prominent republicans of color at any of the press conferences announcing the signing of some new legislation. For that matter you don’t see many democrats of color at these photo-ops., furthering my belief that there should be no question who runs America. Now you’ll hear, “well the president is Black”, well so is Ken Chenault so was Reginald Lewis and yes so is Michael Steele. And?

Republican-Democrat is a smoke screen money and access are the drivers of not only America but the world. As Ms. Tucker pointed out in a previous article, whites are afraid of loosing these privleges because more people are demanding a seat at the table. It’s not wrong for them to feel that way but it’s inevitable that people of color will get a seat.

By the way, Haley Barbour is a saavy politician and an obvious liar. And he’s from Mississippi. Need I say more?

AlatSea

September 10th, 2010
6:42 pm

Keep on farting or fighting.
Thank you for staying in the sand. I am now done with you and you are with her’s your sign kamchak. Ait in the room.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
6:53 pm

Congrats AlatSea…most unintelligible post of the day. Do you work at that or does it come naturally? Couldn’t care less about you either……by the way, here’s your slurpee.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
6:56 pm

I voted for Obama. While I am somewhat disappointed in him as President (not for the reasons some of you wish……in fact, I would have liked for him to have pushed for even more drastic change that I will not get into right now)…………….I still feel that he was a much better choice than McCain.

However, while some in the Republican Party may harbor racist feelings towards Obama………….I am annoyed with how a lot of people will associate any attack on President Obama as being racist. How soon people forget how viciously the Republicans attacked Bill Clinton when he was President.

The attacks on Obama do not come even close to beat down that the Republicans tried to lay on Clinton in the 90’s.

I feel that the attacks on Obama are primarily due to the fact that he’s a Democrat. The Republicans dont have any plan of vision for our country (other than turning the clock back to the good old days where policies only benefited the rich). Without any true vision….they resort to the time and tested tactics of race. In tough economic times, the people will forget that Bush’s deregulation policies caused the recession. Instead, they’ll allow themselves to be gullible into blaming someone who is an easy target………which when it comes to white folks in the majority………turns out to be minorities.

Why do you think that the average German allowed themselves to be fooled by a nut like Hitler in the 1930’s? Hitler saw an opportunity to exploit the tough times that the German were enduring. No different than how Islamic extremists exploit the poverty that dominates many Arabic people in the Middle East. Think about it: What rational person will allow themselves to be used to blow up a bunch of Jews? I know, the 125 virgins that Allah has waiting for them in heaven is a great temptation……but still, lol.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
7:13 pm

Joel……………I agree that the majority of whites back in the segregation days were not racist. However many were afraid of speaking out against it (kind of like how most blacks in the ghetto today dont speak out when crime occurs……..because they dont want to be retaliated against or labeled as snitches).

The majority of whites who werent racist felt that the best thing to do was not get involved. I’m sure that they didnt want to be labeled a n1gger lover or have their home burned and bombed.

Just like blacks today feel unfairly labeled as being criminals because of the actions of a relatively few……………whites dont want to be labeled as racist because of the actions of a relatively few rich white people, along with some misguided poor white trash.

Ms. Tucker, one thing that Hillary Clinton got ripped for in the primary was when she said that a lot of white people fought for civil rights. Just as blacks were courageous back in those days for putting themselves out on front street during the Civil Rights struggle………..how do you think whites who stood with you guys felt? Dont you think that they feared being retaliated against?

I’m not justifying inaction against injustice. I’m saying that given the struggles that plague the black community when it comes to violence and crime………a little consideration should be given to why some white people didnt take a stand back then.

Blacks today get upset when whites say that there isnt enough peer pressure in the black community when it comes to working with the police to fight crime. Blacks say that the police havent always been kind to the black community.

Well, how do you think that white folks back then who werent racist viewed the police? Do you think that the police back then would have looked very kindly upon those non-racist white folks who chose to fight against injustice?

Lil' Barry Bailout

September 10th, 2010
7:17 pm

Christopher Chance: Instead, they’ll allow themselves to be gullible into blaming someone who is an easy target………which when it comes to white folks in the majority………turns out to be minorities.
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I suppose it would be too much for this idiot to appreciate the irony of his comment.

Bigot.

Lil' Barry Bailout

September 10th, 2010
7:19 pm

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at the bigotry expressed by Christopher Chance, given his worship of the Idiot Messiah and his racist attitudes regarding “typical white people”.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
7:28 pm

I feel that one thing that doesnt get talked about is the fear that some non-racist whites have when it comes to the pendulum swinging too far the other way. When I say “other way”, I mean the fear (true or untrue) of black power.

I’m a big sports fan. There are years that will go by where one team dominates another. During some of those games, the team on top will run up the score.

However, eventually the tide turns. The team that was losing starts beating the was beating them. Not only do they start winning, but they start running up the score when they can (after all, memories die hard). Teams dont forget the past. Winning is one thing. Dominating another team is a whole new high. Get back is as old as human civilization.

People are the same way. After being sh1t on for so long, it’s in human nature to want to exploit your new found power and exert some dominance over those who you feel formerly oppressed you. The best way to maintain your dominance is to surround yourself with those you best identify with…best relate to. Skin tone is the most obvious factor. However, religious views and financial interests also come into play. Not only do those in power want to enjoy their power……..but they dont want to ever be in a position of being exploited and sh1t on again.

Why do you think that many Republicans got upset over one nut case in Philly who tried to prevent a few whites from voting? Getting upset over that is no different than getting upset over the wacko preacher in Florida who wants to burn the Quran. However, the fear is that if one black man gets away with intimidating white voters………others will try the same thing. After all, whites back in the Jim Crow days had carte blanche when it came to intimidating blacks from voting.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
7:28 pm

Lil Barry Kettle…meet the pot? Really, I can’t stop laughing. While I dont agree with every statement made by Mr. Chance, he stated his position and seemingly supported it with some reasoned thought (we may argue as to the factual support for some of his starting premises but I dont think they are wholly unsupportable). But the typical generic attack by you Lil….and calling the poster an idiot. But then you never really post much intelligent thought do you? So Lil..here’s your slurpee.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
7:37 pm

Lil’ Barry Bailout……..dude, I’m as white as they come. I just am not blinded by the views of those who look like me and say that they care about me.

I’m a cynic to begin with. No one cares about you just because you relate to them racially. Opportunistic races hustlers exist in all races. People who look like you only care about you if they feel that you can help their interests in one fashion or another.

By the way, I dont worship anyone. As I said before, I’m disappointed in President Obama because I felt that he should have, from Day 1, used his political capital to bully his fellow Democrats to make sweeping chances that are long overdue. I dont feel that what he has accomplished so far will really make a difference.

However, given the fact that he raised more money than any candidate in the history of human civilization……….it is not surprising that he feels that he has to be accountable to those whose financial backing helped get him elected.

I have long suspected that racial equality means that all races want the right to run for public office……..so they can have the same opportunity to make money and exploit others that opportunistic whites have enjoyed since America was formed.

President Obama has shown that he’s no different than any white President we’ve had…I mean, other than the tone of his skin.

kevinbgoode

September 10th, 2010
7:40 pm

“He said she was “a very nice girl” who “happened to be an African-American, and, God bless her, she let me copy her notes the whole time. And since I was not prone to go to class every day, I considered it a great — it was a great thing, it was just — there was nothing to it. If she remembers it, I would be surprised. She was just another student. I was the student next to her.”
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So, apparently, the governor of Mississippi was very happy to get something from someone else for nothing. Seems to me Bailey should be the governor, since she apparently showed the kind of character one would hope for in governing, while Barbour skipped class and depended on someone else’s hard work through their notes to get his education.
Con-artist indeed.

Hoghead

September 10th, 2010
7:54 pm

You know what, about this article. Nobody gives a darn. Why are you beating a dead horse–could it because you want to stir up more racial tension. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are ahead of you on this. By the way, West Africa is ready when you are.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
7:54 pm

Keep up the good fight!……….I appreciate the support of your 7:28pm post. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with what I have to say. Still, it’s nice to see that someone out there actually appreciates the effort I took to rationally explain my position.

I feel that a debate of well reasoned arguments (even if they conflict)……..does not have to turn into an argument. Debating can be very healthy. I feel that if one is truly on the right side, then he should have no problem with being able to defend his position.

Instead, what we have for the most part is people getting upset when they are challenged to defend their position. Even though I live in San Francisco, I grew up an Atlanta Braves fan. That’s why I frequent this site. I came across Ms. Tucker’s blog awhile ago and check in to see what she’s commenting on.

Still, when chatting on the Braves blog………many so called Atlanta Braves fans cannot handle having to defend their position on a particular trade…..or even proposed trade. Any criticism is taken personally.

I see that this blog is no different. From what I’ve seen, Ms. Tucker is a black female columnist who seems to attract mostly angry white conservatives as readers, lol……many of whom make no attempt to have a reasoned debate with her.

Pretty sad. While I dont exactly agree with her positions on everything she write about….I do understand why as an older black female……..how she came to feel about certain things.

I’ll give you an example of how something that happened long ago can traumatize someone’s view point. I regularly play poker with an older white guy who had to do some prison time in his early 20’s because of a drunk driving conviction. He spent a year in county jail where he was one of a only few whites in the part of the jail he was housed in. He said that the blacks there made his life a living hell….that they all hated white people.

He told me that when he went in, he never had a problem with blacks. However, when he got out, he had such a deep hatred for blacks……that it is still with him to this day. I’ve had a number of discussions with him about this and have tried to reason with him and say that his experience in jail with blacks was not indicative of all blacks. He told me that the experience was so bad that he just couldnt help how he feels.

I feel that anytime that one is a minority in an environment that he is in (whether a black in society…..or a white in prison)……..he is going to have to deal with crap that the majority doesnt have to deal with. The majority wont even see it as being a big deal.

I’m sure that there were blacks my poker colleague’s jail that didnt like what happened to him. However, can one blame them for nothing doing anything to help him?

Mike

September 10th, 2010
8:00 pm

Hey, Tucker. I read your stuff occasionally, but I wonder why nobody ever stops to think about all the white and black people who live in the South, but never grew up here. I’m from San Diego, a long way away in both distance and culture. I wasn’t raised around people who were racist. Sure, they were there, of course, but nobody I knew was racist, and it never occured to us that people were bad or good based on skin color.

Southerners, both white and black, have such a chip on their shoulders about race and I can’t help but wonder why, if they have a problem with each other, they don’t move. Everytime I hear some white guy complain about blacks I want to say, “hey, genius, move to Montana or something.” And each time I drive through the poor and gang-infested areas of Atlanta and Jonesboro I think, “you know, you live in the South where your great, great grandparents were slaves. You can leave this area if you don’t like it.”

People constantly complain about where they are, as if they are stuck. Geesh. It’s a big world people. Go see it.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:01 pm

Oh yes…racism is dead in this country…witness the Hogwash post: You know what, about this article. Nobody gives a darn. Why are you beating a dead horse–could it because you want to stir up more racial tension. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are ahead of you on this. By the way, West Africa is ready when you are. Have a slurpee, Hoggie!

Of course, the obvious question is why Barbour feels it necessary to falsify history and how somehow pointing out that falsification makes CT responsible for stirring up racial tension. Sorta like Galileo pointing out the earth revolves around the sun and then being blamed for stirring up trouble. simple hogwash!

Mike

September 10th, 2010
8:04 pm

Hoghead said, “West Africa is ready when you are.” While that was an insensitve thing to say, he’s got a point. The USA is one of the best places to live if you’re black, and you don’t have to confine yourself to any particular area.

Move to Vermont, Oregon, Utah, whereever. To those of you who hate blacks: YOU LIVE IN THE SOUTH. What do you expect? Get in your truck and go to Northern Idaho if you don’t like black people. What are you, dense? If you don’t like black people, nobody is forcing you to live near them.

And to those of you who are black and constantly complaining about racism: Move to a place where they are more tollerant. You live IN THE SOUTH. White people in the South are, by tradition, intollerant.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:12 pm

Chance….its very difficult to have reasoned nuance discussion and debate on these sites. I agree that perceptions can differ based on perspective. I got caught in Mexico driving while gringo…as I handed over some money on the shakedown and tried to gather some info to report to the American embassy, I felt what it was like to see the police as your enemy and someone to be feared.

There are a lot of people concerned with “taking their country back” which seems to be code words. It not their country alone. But they fear what happens when they lose their jobs or fear the loss, when they fear no longer being the predominate power, etc. And yes…trauma can certainly cement a hard perspective and loss of vision of other perscpectives.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:15 pm

Wow Mike…. basically your argument is southern whites are racist by nature, so give up and move away. Proud of that argument?

Oh and moving away from family and job is not always easy.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:19 pm

Keep up the good whine

So because I point out the true point that affirmative action has put people in positions they were not qualified to hold and this brings out feelings of racism, that is a questionable post.

So please enlighten me. I need you to man up and explain to me exactly why that could be considered racist.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:29 pm

Nutting for Free…. “man up” — really, are you some 5th grade child bully…

Again..you post included: It’s like their insistence on Affirmative Action. No other policy is more responsible for putting Black people into positions of leadership that have no idea what they are doing, making the Blacks look exactly like the democrats want them to look …

You fail to offer any intelligent discuss about how affirmative action came about or what those programs were meant to correct. You make it the “reason” for “Black people” in positions of leadership that “have no idea what they are doing”….I guess stupidity is the reason for White People in posiitions of leadership that have no idea what they are doing or are you taking a position that all White People in leadership know what they are doing? You also have no credible evidence to support your claim about the so-called claims of impact of affirmative action, but you are quick to “demand” evidence from others on complete nonsense.

But the truly offensive part is your categorical classification of “making the Blacks look exactly like democrats want them to look like” All blacks? Any other stereotypes? Truly a moronic statement with a racist bias but whine away. I am sure you will. You have all day. Enjoying the slurpee?

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
8:31 pm

Nothing is Free………Wouldnt you call nepotism a form of affirmative action? George Bush was no more qualified to be President than I am. However, because of Daddy, he was able to get chance after chance to succeed in life. When he ran for Governor of Texas………what did he do in life to warrant being elected?

Rich people have a sense of entitlement. Because Daddy was President, Jr. feels that he’s entitled to be Governor and President.

There are many rich kids who get into elite schools because of nepotism. They take slots that would otherwise go to more qualified applicants. Yet, I dont see too many conservatives crying about that form of affirmative action. Affirmative action that benefits the rich is called a birthright. When it benefits minorities, it’s called Affirmative action.

Rich conservatives talk a good game about how jobs and positions should go to the best applicant. However, that is all it is…..TALK.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:32 pm

Keep up the good whine

- – There are a lot of people concerned with “taking their country back” which seems to be code words.- –

So when the democrats used those “code words” when talking about taking the Congress in 2006, were they being racist or does it just apply to people who follow the party of lincoln?

YOU and people like you are the problem. Hiding behind flimsy charges of racism has done nothing but diminish the meaning of the word. If Obama lasts 8 years, by the end of his term, the new word for disagreeing with the president will be racism, It will have lost every bit of meaning that it had.

It isn’t working. As soon as the term appears in a conversation, somebody either snickers or laughs because it has become such a sad cliche’.

I know it’s all you have. You haven’t been able to hold a candle to me in any debate you have attempted so this is what you do. It’s sad. it’s pathetic and it shows you as a coward that can’t stand on your own and prove what you are trying to say.

Here’s a clue, clueless: when you call everyone a racist, no one is a racist.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:37 pm

Keep up the good whine

Man up means I’m a bully or I have yet to see any signs of a spine from you. You decide. I already know.

You have never offered to discuss the beginnings of affirmative action, while I have discussed the fact that Nixon brought it on the scene when it was sorely needed with less hysterical, less emotionally driven posters than you. 50 years later is does exactly what I said it does.

All blacks?

Did I say all Blacks, Einstein? Only someone with either the IQ of a worm or another hysterical dim-witted liberal would think that is what I meant. Which one are you?

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:41 pm

Nut…. here’s a clue…I dont call everyone a racist…but I will call you one when appropriate and not because you happen to have a difference of opinion from the President.

But hey…did you call Hogwash out for his racist comment? What about Mike–he simply references all southern whites as racist.

You can try to bully but you don’t intimidate at all. Daily your ignorance is demonstrated for all.
Unfortunately a number of posters attracted to this blog react without thought and daily call CT a racist. Guess it only hurts when the references are to you. Lincoln would be ashamed of the current Republican party.

Tommy Maddox

September 10th, 2010
8:42 pm

Mike – do us all a favor and turn in your voter card. Reminds me of the old Thermos Greenwood song – “Who Gave the Monkey a Gun”.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:42 pm

Christopher Chance

- -George Bush was no more qualified to be President than I am. – -

And what qualified Obama to be president? The same thing that qualified Bush, a majority of electoral college votes and that’s all that’s required.

- -Rich people have a sense of entitlement. Because Daddy was President, Jr. feels that he’s entitled to be Governor and President.- -

Is that all rich people? Do you want to consider what you are writing before you make such an ignorant statement?

- -Rich conservatives talk a good game about how jobs and positions should go to the best applicant. However, that is all it is…..TALK.- -

Sure. We are all rich.

Do you have a clue. But the real question is, what is a young hip poker playin playboy who only needs a vajayjay doing setting and blogging on a saturday night in San Fran?

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
8:43 pm

From the AJC regarding 9/11 memorials:

“Atlantans of all faiths will rally at 4 p.m. Friday in memory of victims of the 9/11 tragedy and to speak out against religious bigotry and intolerance. The rally will take place at First Presbyterian Church in Atlanta at 1328 Peachtree Street and will include a cross section of religious and community leaders including the Rev. Dr. Joseph E. Lowery, Atlanta City Councilman Ivory Lee Young Jr., Rev. Dr. Richard Cobble of Concerned Black Clergy and Douglas W. Gatlin, of Faith and the City.”

Maybe they should be speaking out against thuggery.

Shooting deaths in Metro Atlanta at 14 in the last twenty days. One attributed to a house-sitter shooting someone attempting to break into a home.

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
8:45 pm

Ignore Christopher “Last” Chance.

He is a Cynthia Tucker troll.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:45 pm

Keep up the good fight!

So now unless I call out every idiot who comes on here, I’,m a racist?

Are you just dumb as hell? Why would I do that? That’s not my job.

And now you can read the mind of a president that has been dead for 150 years.

You are quite pathetic.

Tommy Maddox

September 10th, 2010
8:46 pm

Hey Christopher – I think you made a bad voting choice your first time out.

kayaker 71

September 10th, 2010
8:47 pm

Yum Yum,

It’s the elephant in the living room. No one goes there, especially CT.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:48 pm

Nut… 50 years later is does exactly what I said it does. evidence? or just your supposition?

I apologize that you have the IQ of a worm and no spine…should I go slower for you? Again your post was very clear and very inclusive in its terms. But really, continue your rant and whine.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:48 pm

Tommy Maddox

I think he just saw how his Mommy voted.

Nothing Is Free

September 10th, 2010
8:51 pm

I do have something to do on a Friday Night in Atlanta.

I’m not about to set here and personify the name of Beck’s latest book with these half wits.

Everybody have a great weekend. I’ll be in New York visiting the Site and attending services.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
8:52 pm

…Nothing is Free………..actually, I’m playing a number of poker tournaments online at Pokerstars. Chatting with imbeciles like you amuse me. Makes it easier to deal with having to fold a bunch of hands when I’m catching garbage hole cards.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
8:52 pm

Again…enjoy the bullying? The mommy vote? That took a spine for a worm…..

Kamchak

September 10th, 2010
8:54 pm

Swampy Nowhere Man

Tell me again how small businesses and large businesses that have been under attack by this administration since 2007?>/i>

Did you run this by Fox News before posting?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
8:56 pm

Just to recap Cynthia’s latest posts:

* Why do Haley Barbour and his black classmate remember Ole Miss differently?
* In memoriam: A Muslim victim of 9/11, a Muslim soldier
* ‘Free market’ rules don’t work for health care
* Haley Barbour’s ‘dog whistle’: It’s OK to think Obama’s Muslim
* To cut the deficit, raise taxes on the rich
* Muslims become scapegoats of a nativist surge
* Summer of discontent: Backlash to the browning of America
* Another rig burns, showing need for more oversight
* Where would Speaker Boehner cut spending?
* Fewer illegal immigrants, but more anti-immigrant fury

Kind of like a broken record, isn’t it? From the mind of Pullet Surprise winner.

Keep up the good fight!

September 10th, 2010
9:11 pm

Dum Dum…. I am sure if Ms. Tucker were here now she would certainly point out that you can go to any number of other blogs. There’s a whole world out there. If you dont like her opinion, you can surely find one you like.

Kamchak

September 10th, 2010
9:19 pm

If you dont like her opinion, you can surely find one you like.

If all else fails, they can go to blogspot—AND START THEIR OWN BLOG!!!!!!!!

kayaker 71

September 10th, 2010
9:22 pm

CT,

You seem to be stuck somewhere in the 60s or the 70s with an occasional foray into present day. Some things must have happened back there to form the way you perceive present day race relations. I cannot imagine living under Jim Crow laws but these have not been part of our society for the last 30 or so years. Hard to forget? But when you let them form every single opinion about race that you have, it skews an otherwise valid opinion and an intelligent voice. Opinion writers have a mission in life. That is to change the way others think. You’ll never succeed by continuing to harbor all of this racial undercurrent and discontent. It’s just a Mexican standoff which accomplishes very little. A lot of us have baggage which seems to cloud their perspective but in your line of work, baggage is the enemy. It only serves to get in the way of good debate. Think about it.

Hootinanny Yum Yum

September 10th, 2010
9:23 pm

It’s MISTER Dum Dum to you.

To be truthful, I enjoy reading her blogs. She a the poster child for racial bigotry and fanning the flames of racism.

She does everything she can to “Keep The HATE Alive”.

No, I’ll stay here. If you don’t care for MY comments regarding HER opinions. YOU may go elsewhere.

Dacula voter

September 10th, 2010
9:27 pm

Cynthia, have you ever talked to James Meredith? You might learn a thing or two. Of course, he doesn’t come from the blame America first mentality of your ilk so I imagine you wouldn’t pay much attention to him.

Sarah Palin

September 10th, 2010
9:29 pm

I shoot ilk from my helicopter.

Scout

September 10th, 2010
9:29 pm

If any of you looked in the Western Sky at late dusk today you saw what used to be a beautiful “crescent moon” with the bright planet Venus in close proximity. Now that waning crescent moon and “star” reminds many of us of the evil that is present in the world.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
9:55 pm

Just a classic example of what I’m talking about when it comes to McCann’s refusal to block a wild pitch. Instead of blocking the low and outside pitch by Venters……..he just stuck his backhand out there and the ball went to the screen.

It’s plays like that that just kill us. At some point, you’d think that our coaches would either teach McCann how to block a wild pitch……..or get on his fat A$$ when he chooses to be lazy by doing the back hand thing.

Christopher Chance

September 10th, 2010
9:55 pm

Oops, wrong blog, lol.

nopology

September 10th, 2010
10:16 pm

Hate to say it – gotta go! This crap is getting way too old. CT- you go girl! 1960s 4eva!

Concerned American

September 10th, 2010
10:41 pm

You who call yourself keep up the good fight, what’s your problem? You have some deep seated anger that medication might help. Anyone that can be so outraged on a racist blog site as this needs to be kept off the street. Does your mother know you have internet access?

Rayneesha Peeples Mack

September 10th, 2010
10:48 pm

You black Cindy? Laaaawdy, Rayneesha and her chidren all thinkin you porter rigans! Ima still read what you writes

The Real Sarah

September 10th, 2010
11:34 pm

I take congress back from the fascist from my helicopter

Joel

September 11th, 2010
12:20 am

Keep.. why cant you make a point with out putting people down?

Joel

September 11th, 2010
12:22 am

Keep..you are not entitled to make up your own definition of racism

Joel

September 11th, 2010
12:23 am

keep… something tells me you wouldnt talk such a game in person

RTW

September 11th, 2010
3:39 am

Unfortunately racism exists. It always has. People tend to be drawn to others just like them. Unfortunately most people these days attribute racism mostly to white people. Why? 200 plus years of American history and the fact the the majority typically dominates the minority. People are people and we are all guilty of racism. Don’t be fooled. Look at all cultures, and yes Cynthia, African-American, we are all guilty. To deny it is just baiting. Check your history. Racism is wrong, but is not attributable to just one group. Just saying.

Lil' Barry Bailout

September 11th, 2010
6:28 am

Christopher Chance: dude, I’m as white as they come.
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And as I guessed, incapable of understanding how bigoted your earlier statement is.

Lil' Barry Bailout

September 11th, 2010
10:17 am

Cynthia Tucker’s ‘dog whistle’: Why do Haley Barbour and his black classmate remember Ole Miss differently?
3:00 pm September 10, 2010, by ctucker
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Hypocrisy.

M. Rowan

September 11th, 2010
11:11 am

Per my comment yesterday @3:50 that Mrs. Tucker responded to.

I may have misspoken, because it isn’t you single handedly keeping this alive, but a breed of reporters just like you that seem to me to be stuck in the past. Take this article for example. Of course they had different experiences in college in the 60’s. Anyone with the most rudimentary understanding of history knows that is a fact.

However, that brings me to my point of this article. Not to sound callous, but when do you ever get over it and move on? You simply can’t change the past, and since America today doesn’t even come close to resembling the 60’s, what is the point in continuing the incessant drumbeat of how you were wronged in the past? It doesn’t and ignores the fact that an African American has every advantage today that anyone else has. It is time for you to start to take responsibility for your lives and if something doesn’t go your way, then odds are that you played a role in the negative outcome.

Hatred and racism have existed forever. African americans may hate to hear this, but it is not your cross to bear as a race. You are simply not unique in the fact that you have been wronged in the past. Almost every race has……look at the Jewish people. If anybody on this planet has the right to carry a chip on their shoulder, they do. However, I never hear of them complaining about the holocaust even 1/10 as much as you hear American blacks talk about racism.

Take a lesson rom them, accept that the past happened and focus your efforts on positive efforts centered around life today.

We would all be much better off.

M. Rowan

September 11th, 2010
11:16 am

Used efforts 2 time in last sentence. Only problem with iPad is getting the grammar correct! :)

Donelsco/RBE

September 11th, 2010
12:05 pm

As long time GOP activist my memories of “post” segregation 60’s tells me Haley Barbour’s comments are attempts to inoculate himself against possible racism charges. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t? At any rate his chairmanship at the RNC isn’t exactly remembered for its efforts towards broadening the party. Despite his age and attempts at revising history Haley is a product of the Ole South. Hopefully he will spare the public from revisiting that unfortunate period through not pursuing the presidency.

Robert in MS.

September 11th, 2010
2:19 pm

They are probably both correct. You have to remember that he’s talking about “Southern Democrats”. Stennis, Eastland, Ross Barnett. Anybody familiar with politics, desegregation and civil rights know that Southern Democrats dominated southern politics and THEY opposed and were the force that stood in the way of “civil integration” The first Republicans (as I recall) were considered more progressive, but fiscally conservative. OF course the Republican party has evolved tremendously since then. By ‘65 less and less young whites seemed opposed to the few blacks that populated the “white” schools in the south. I do recall panic and frustration(even violence) in major Northern cities in the late sixties, early seventies… as busing to end segregation in the northern states became an issue.

Aaron

September 11th, 2010
9:49 pm

Whoever said the President is black needs to rethink his position. Stanley Ann Dunham (his mother) is very much a white lady. The black half of him doesn’t round up; this doesn’t make him black. Barack Obama is a white man.

elmer

September 12th, 2010
3:24 pm

What Haley Barbour fails to remember is that all of the racist Democrats or “Dixicrats” then became Republicans. I grew up in Yazoo City in the 60s and 70s. For a while, we rented a house across the street from the Barbour family on Madison. Prejudice was real back then and still is. Both racists and very enlightened people live in Mississippi. The good ole boys still run things, however. They still separate themselves with their private academies (which spawned during desegregation.) Most of the wealthy white families sent their children to Manchester Academy in Yazoo City, which started in the bottom of the basement of the Methodist church. When I was living in Yazoo City there was a black Catholic churh and a white Catholic church. ….and it was accepted. Even after desegretation there was and is segregation. Haley Barbour is living a fantasy.

Barclay

September 12th, 2010
5:57 pm

Southern Democrats began moving into the Republican Party with Goldwater and Nixon’s “Southern Strategy.” Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act endeared him to people like Strom Thurmond and Nixon went after those angry white southerners fed up with the Kennedy-Johnson Democratic Party and its support for Civil Rights. Haley Barbour’s Republican identity coincides with that appeal.

L

September 13th, 2010
12:25 pm

These comments are very telling, we live in a “24hr” news world and people still get the “news” wrong….
There were no Blacks stopping whites from voting in Philly. The black panthers were in an all black polling place and were against Obama. Obama is closer to being a white man then some “white” people skin color is sooo blinding in this country….this man was born to Blonde hair blue eyed women and he is the first “black” president

Constructive Feedback

September 13th, 2010
1:39 pm

Dear Cynthia Tucker:

Do you realize how predictable you are?

Haley Barbour made the mistake of putting the blame of racism upon the Democrats and thus this set you off more than anything else. He violated the tale that is popular in the Black community that says that all racist Democrats became Dixiecrats and then Republicans. It is quite strange however, that Barbour is only the second GOP governor from MS since Reconstruction. Go to Wikipedia and check out the US Congressional history and the make up of the state legislature.

I wonder if you will ever tell the tale of the present day distress that our people are suffering in school as our young people are assigned to classes with “street pirates in training” that confiscate quality instruction time today from within the classroom just as the governor of AL did while standing in the entrance of the school.

Dean Chambers

September 13th, 2010
8:23 pm

Right on Cynthia,

Thanks for another great article. Barbour is a perfect example of why we need to remember these stories, he is influential and there are many like him still around who resist change and do all they can to prevent it, after all it was Barbour who defended his friend in Virginia when he romanticized the confederacy and never whimpered a word about the abusive legacy of slavery; it was Barbour front seat fighting health care and demonizing Obama without any sound logic.

The wingnuts on the right seem to forget that this history was not so long ago, there are many people like Barbour who suffer from this kind of mentality, many wingnuts like him who weigh in here and try to call us dividers for bringing up such important issues are so unaware of their white privilege and will never admit to it. Yes we are not “Post Racial” that is a joke, and every time a right wing mentality Foxs news loving idiot feels like they get the short end any kind of justice they are the first ones to cry “Reverse Discrimination” and then rant on about how important race still it in america. When the tables are turned they tell us to shut up because we are in America and therefore there is nothing to discuss? It was really not so long ago that African Americans had to sit in the back of the bus and drink from different fountains, we should never let our children know the price we paid for freedom. If some people want to get defensive about it too bad, maybe they should sit in a classroom and listen to black history for a change, after all most african americans had about 12 yrs of euro history? It is really preposterous that so many whites with no knowledge about the real history want to make us feel like we are complaining when we tell stories they actually never heard, if ya feel some guilt maybe that is what you need to feel, get over it! Dont tell us to get over it, we have, and we have made a considerable amount of progress since the last waves of Jim Crow in the late 60’s, hear that the late 60’s we are not talking 1860’s either.

We still have many rivers to cross and a few old dragons to slay along the way, part of this is about racial equality and much about human dignity for all people.

Dean Chambers

September 13th, 2010
8:24 pm

Correction- WE SHOULD NEVER LET OUT CHILDREN FORGET THE PRICE WE PAID FOR FREEDOM!