Southern Baptists say Beck is no Christian, either

WASHINGTON — Glenn Beck is a talented huckster, a shrewd survivor who may be in the middle of another self-reinvention. This time, he seems bent on remaking himself as one of the oldest of the stock all-American characters: the Elmer Gantry-like preacher-performer.

Last weekend, Beck held a rally on the National Mall, “Restoring Honor,” calling the nation back to what he sees as its traditional Christian roots. Beck gets a lot of things wrong, including history. Moreover, he’s an odd spokesman for conservative Christianity, since he’s Mormon.

But never mind all that. One of this country’s many charms is its capacity to weave an assortment of eccentrics into its cultural fabric without being ripped apart by their bizarre sentiments. If the country survived the pronouncements of Father Charles Coughlin — a Roman Catholic priest whose 1930s-era radio show reverberated with praise for Hitler and noxious attacks on Jews — it can survive Beck’s pseudo-theology.

Still, there are dangers for those mainstream Republicans who tack too closely to Beck’s currents. Sarah Palin will hardly be damaged by her appearance as one of Beck’s featured speakers on Saturday, since she is already one of the most polarizing figures in national politics. Her approval rating hovers in the mid-30s.

But other prominent Republicans who hope to maintain political respectability should beware of him. Beck’s demagoguery is corrosive.

Take his latest smear, an ugly attack on President Obama’s religious beliefs. “Most Christians don’t recognize (Obama’s) version of Christianity,” Beck told Fox News interviewer Chris Wallace after the rally.

That sort of rancid dismissal of the religious beliefs of liberal-leaning public figures has been a tactic of the religious right since the 1970s, but I had believed (or had hoped) it was dying away after Republicans overused their holier-than-thou, family-values playbook in the Karl Rove era. A catalog of sexual scandals involving conservative politicians made it clear that their private behavior was no more pure for all their public piousness. The GOP seemed willing to drop the religion card.

But the opportunity to paint President Obama as “the other” has proved too great to pass up. As Islamophobia rises and the rightwing noise machine echoes with its nsistence that Obama is Muslim, GOP luminaries exploit the frenzy for short-term political gain.

In an on-air interview, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell gave the most tepid support possible to Obama’s religious identity. “The president says he’s a Christian. I take him at his word,” McConnell said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”  McConnell surely remembers the criticism Obama endured in 2008 over the sermons of his then-pastor, Jeremiah Wright, who headed a United Church of Christ in Chicago. Yet, he intentionally signaled room for doubt about Obama’s religion.

McConnell and other conservatives play that hand at their peril. As they anticipate a hard-fought presidential campaign in 2012, one of the GOP’s most able contenders is likely to be Mitt Romney, a Mormon. The former Massachusetts governor was handicapped by religious prejudices in 2008, as many Christian conservatives, dismissing Mormonism as a “cult,” refused to support him. Does McConnell mean to stir up those prejudices?

Beck, by the way, has also been subjected to harsh appraisals by Christian fundamentalists. His rally had barely ended before Russell Moore, a dean at Louisville’s Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, denounced it, along with the conservative Christians who attended. “Mormonism and Mammonism are contrary to the gospel of Jesus Christ,” Moore wrote.

Beck likely doesn’t care; his bank account (and his ego) will only grow larger as a result of the attention. But he has stirred the winds of religious bigotry, and the GOP may reap the whirlwind.

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White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:36 am

Jesus following Liberal….I dont think Jesus would agree with abortion, I dont think Jesus would agree with over taxation of the people, I don’t think Jesus would agree with abolishment of prayer. Where in the world do you get your ideas from????

White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:37 am

Blackbird….what is 2+2? Just checking to make sure you have a brain….

White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:39 am

Blackbird…read the constitution and Declaration of Independance and see how many times they referenced God. Also research our forefathers and how many of them were christians or even preachers.

White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:39 am

Blackbird…read the constitution and Declaration of Independance and see how many times they referenced God. Also research our forefathers and how many of them were christians or even preachers.

Right Way

September 1st, 2010
10:40 am

Get a life, will you. Beck is trying to get this country some sanity again. What are you doing to help do that. I think a Walmart greeter is doing more to bring some sanity to this country that you do printing your garbage. I don’t see anything about the crowd there on how civilize they were and how patriotic they were. Wake up and become part of the solution instead of being part of the problem.

devcortcc

September 1st, 2010
10:41 am

As usual , Ms. Tucker, you just don,t get it. Beck’s rally was not about politics, but restoring Honor Faith, Dignity,common sense, and placing God in our lives to where he should be! First!. This Country was founded and our Constitution created on Godly Principles. God blessed this Country because we believed and lived by these principles. Over the years we have allowed God to be pushed out of almost every aspect of our lives. II Chronicles 7:14 says it all. God did not create the different denominations, man did, so there will always be bickering back and forth about who’s right and who’s wrong. As for me and my family, we will stand with the Lord.

kayaker 71

September 1st, 2010
10:43 am

WAR,

Just being realistic, not racist or intending to be disrespectful. I really don’t think that the color of one’s skin should be the determining factor in his ability to lead this country. God knows, we have had numerous people of different races, creeds and beliefs that have been great Americans. I am simply saying that for such a long time, the black community has lacked the leadership that they have needed in this country. They have been stuck with people like Jessie and Al who do not represent the mainstream of the black community anymore than Beck represents the majority of Americans. Bozo had a chance to place a lot of pride where it belongs, a chance to heal a huge racial divide, a chance to rise up and prove that someone’s color doesn’t matter. But he had other things on his mind that didn’t include any of the above. And I really think, although he is defended strongly by the black electorate, that they are disappointed and feel let down. I don’t think that the next black candidate, whenever that might be, will capture 92% of the black vote. Until someone comes along, whoever that might be, to start to heal the racial divide in this country, we will continue to foster hate, division and malice. So again, I do not think, for the above reasons, that we will have another successful black candidate for president of this country in our lifetime. That’s not being a racist, just a realist.

PearlJam

September 1st, 2010
10:44 am

Folks Glenn Beck addressed this topic in his speech Saturday.
Had minister from all faiths on stage, stated there are many differences in beliefs represented but they all agree:
1. Put Faith 1st
2. Focus on Hope
3. Charity for needed – help your neighbor in need

Doesn’t matter who are, Left or Right, Black or White, Baptist or Mormon, Democrat or Republican, Jew or Christian If more people get back to doing these things our country will be better.
He talked about us focusing to much on our scars (bad things going on), we argue to much over these things, more people need to focus on good and start helping instead of fighting.

Why all the hate for Beck, we and Cynthia should be supporting this message.

Union

September 1st, 2010
10:44 am

granny.. the other estimates were un official estimates by the park department

granny godzilla

September 1st, 2010
10:44 am

Whiteman

jesus never spoke of abortion, he did say “Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven ; and come, follow Me.” and to the best of my knowledge prayer has not been abolished. (unless it happened
since about 5:30 this morning, last time I prayed)

granny godzilla

September 1st, 2010
10:45 am

Union

“un” being the key word

I'm Here From The Government And I'm Here To Help

September 1st, 2010
10:46 am

Overall, it has been 31 months since the recession started and the economy is still losing jobs.

This Labor Day, ask yourself: If America’s strength is indeed a product of the strength of the American worker, what does it tell us about America’s prospects when so many Americans are not working?

In other words, can America work if Americans aren’t working?

White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:47 am

Jesus did speak of abortion when he spoke of the importance of life and preservation of it.

Jesus also spoke of the government that taxed and stole from the people. He called them theives. It is different to give (charity) versus it being taken from you.

Jesus following liberal

September 1st, 2010
10:49 am

hey white man. I do not “believe” in abortion, nor do I believe in “over-taxation.” Jesus said to render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s. That means pay your taxes. I would like you define how much is too much. By the way, God is not the sole domain of Christianity.

Cynthia is beautiful

September 1st, 2010
10:49 am

‘One of this country’s many charms is its capacity to weave an assortment of eccentrics into its cultural fabric without being ripped apart by their bizarre sentiments.’ Cynthia, Cynthia, Cynthia…Very well said! You have also successfully woven yourself into the Atlanta culture and beyond. Many of the cultural ‘eccentricities’ you espouse exceed Becks eccentricities and are equally entertaining. As long as our country continues to allow freedom of thought and speech I believe we still have a chance as a nation. When certain viewpoints are demagogued and discouraged, open dialogue dies, and all our freedoms are greatly diminished. Dissenting voices in America now tend to be vilified and extinguished. The vast majority of Americans are intelligent enough to distinguish between common sense, practicality, and extremism of any kind. There is far too much extremism from both the left and the right for most Americans. Our country can no longer afford to be governed by either extreme. This upcoming election may very well be our country’s best chance to oust career politicians of both parties who have long squandered our tax dollars, catering mainly to special interest groups, and done all on the backs of middle America. A congress person running for their 8th, 9th, 10th term or more is a bit much. After 2 terms in Congress very few can be anything but out of touch with all but the beltway and K Street. I have faith in America. I believe many Americans will no longer be swayed by one or two political sound bites and actually vote for someone who is qualified, has a good track record, and will do the right thing by ALL their constituents and not just a few special interests within their own party.

granny godzilla

September 1st, 2010
10:49 am

Whiteman

Show me. Pretend I’m from Missouri.

WAR

September 1st, 2010
10:49 am

well ladies and gentleman here is what we learned today: beck is an uneducated mormon who is hell bent on leading America back to its honorable, conservative, christian roots. the president was a muslim in an atheist household who found christianity under the guise of islam. and blacks hate gays while whites hate libs. so if you remember nothing else: WAR is the reason why peace has a chance.

Tommy Maddox

September 1st, 2010
10:51 am

Beck, Beck, Beck…

Beck had a gazillion people at his rally; Rev. Al had 200.

Beck, Beck, Beck…must be getting near November.

Union

September 1st, 2010
10:51 am

and cbs is such an unbiased source for news.. lol

retired early

September 1st, 2010
10:52 am

Anyone who cannot see through Glenn Beck’s facade is not intelligent enough to cast a vote.
I am a white guy and I may not live to see it, but very soon the WASPS will be a minority.The arguments as to who are the most Christian of Christians won’t matter; The voices of all these Believers, obsessed with controlling our lives will finally be silenced.
Oh… Happy Day…

WAR

September 1st, 2010
10:52 am

K71
i gotta go do some actual work. i read your post and understand what you are talking about now. i appreciate that. you didn’t have to explain yourself, but glad you did. and we didn’t need a beer summit to understand each other (although a good cold beer right now would be great!).

White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:53 am

Jesus following Christian…so you think our forefathers meant Muslims, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons and Jews when they were referencing God?

John K

September 1st, 2010
10:53 am

So tell me again how the man who would mock a woman who had just suffered a miscarriage is going to lead the country back to integrity?

White Man

September 1st, 2010
10:53 am

I love getting everyone fired up….this is so much fun.

granny godzilla

September 1st, 2010
10:53 am

Union

yes, they do trend conservative.

blackbird13

September 1st, 2010
10:54 am

Whiteman:

Those documents referenced God, not Jesus. And by your logic regarding what you believe to be true of the Founders, then we could also say we are a Slavery nation, or a patriarchal nation, or any number of things which they were in more agreement on than Christianity.
Things change, accept it that and you will not be in the position of defending Christianity when you yourself are clearly not one.

Really Squared??

September 1st, 2010
10:55 am

White Man-

Jesus also said you should pay your taxes to the government.

What I am not sure of is where he set a threshold to be considered over taxation.Don’t see that in any bible I have read

Halftrack

September 1st, 2010
10:55 am

CT, You and other liberals still don’t get it. Beck is calling for all Americans to support Judeo-Christian principles. Treat your fellowman as you want to be treated. Al Sharpton even agrees with that principle. Obama is a Collective Salvation person by his own admission in his campaigns for the WH. Collective Salvation is opposed to basic Christianity which is personal salvation. As for Sarah Palin being a polarizing figure, what was Hillary Clinton? You praise one and disparage the other for the same principles of campaigning, which boils down to your own bias.

Jesus following liberal

September 1st, 2010
10:56 am

If they ment to exclude all others, why didn’t they say Jesus instead of God.

Really Squared??

September 1st, 2010
10:59 am

White Man-
I just read the declaration of independence and saw the word God once….I also saw greator once as well.

Scout

September 1st, 2010
11:02 am

I am getting a little weary of posting this but it is so SIMPLE !!

“NOT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ME LORD, LORD WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.”

Only God knows …………………

Some People are stupid

September 1st, 2010
11:02 am

Halftrac-
Uhmm…huh…
Collective Salvation-the religious belief that one cannot achieve salvation by himself, unless he is also concerned for the the salvation of his neighbors, and society as a whole

I could swear somewhere in the bible it mentioned saving your fellow man

White Man

September 1st, 2010
11:02 am

So I have a few questions for all the liberals on the blog….

* Do you prefer large government or smaller government?
* Do prefer higher taxes or lower taxes?
* Do you believe in liberty.
* Do you believe you get what you earn?

Just a couple of questions….

Ex-Georgian

September 1st, 2010
11:03 am

I wonder why anyone would want to be affiliated with Christianity these days…I used to be a Christian as well, until I lived in Ga. There, I learned that Christians are actually social Darwinists who hate women, the poor, and anyone not like they are.

The entire Bible is full of warnings to “care for the poor.” But the Christians i know HATE the poor, just as Beck does.

It’s so sad, really, that Fox and other media spend billions getting decent people to hate one another, all the while encouraging them to defend the 1% of Americans who have hoarded and stolen all the resources in this nation. It’s amazing how easily Fox manipulates the masses to do the bidding of the obscenely wealthy.

Nowhere is this in more evidence than in Georgia, America’s misogynist, racist pit of hell.

I’m glad I don’t live in your state anymore…Republicans and Southern Baptists have destroyed it and most of you are just fine with that.

One word will save you: Education. But then, that’s a curse word in Georgia! Just like the words “US Constitution,” “Freedom of religion,” and “Caring for the least of these.”

1ProudVet

September 1st, 2010
11:03 am

White man…All you right-wing terrorists (see definition of sedition) talk about is race!

Let’s have an example. America refuses to apologize for slavery (WWJD?). What “christian” nation refuses to repent or apologize? nuff’ said. And here’s how perverted your “KKK inspired” religion is. It’s the Right that stands in the way of an apology. But here’s where the “terrorist” part comes in. Black Republicans, once President Obama took office, sent him a letter demanding that he issue a formal apology for the democrats role in slavery! “Christian” “whack jobs” will not support a national apology, but want democrats to apologize. Now, that’s “Enemy of the State” stuff right there.

White Man

September 1st, 2010
11:03 am

Enter your comments here

White Man

September 1st, 2010
11:04 am

So I am a terrorist and a racist? Haha Great one 1ProudVet…Great comeback.

White Man

September 1st, 2010
11:05 am

Why the h3ll would anyone apologize for something that happened 200 years ago? I never owned a slave and you never were one. Better let go of the past and work on your future.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

September 1st, 2010
11:05 am

CT, re: your 8:xx post, I would submit it is OK to “question someone’s religion” because in my opinion, god isn’t god either. what do ALL religions have in come (besides the fact they are rooted in superstition and fear of the unknown)? the all have NO hard data or evidence to prove the existence of a supreme being or “intelligent designer”. “faith” in some nebulous, man-made deity is no different than “faith” in Bush’s “belief” Saddam had WMDs, or Iraq was linked to 9/11 (no evidence, proof). religion is a political instrument used to round up Sheeple; often to be slaughtered. ergo, I would submit it is the duty and oblicgation of ALL Americans to be vigiliant in “questioning” the faith of our leaders. I want a rational, critical thinker with his hand on the trigger and not some lemming who “prays” or “talks to god”. as noted, 73 virgins or salvation are both weak excuses for violence in my book.

White Man

September 1st, 2010
11:06 am

I would accept a simple “thank you” from your side and be done with it.

gmaye

September 1st, 2010
11:06 am

Lets get this straight, Sara Palin daughter is a un wed mother, but you conservatives like beck talking about values and morles

HDB

September 1st, 2010
11:07 am

STONE COLD REALITY September 1st, 2010
10:10 am
“HDB…why put your worth or value in what others say or do. If AMERICA…which is exactly who??….claims its sins…what will that change?”
It could change a LOT!! It could change the VIEW that many Americans have…about a lot of people!!

“If Obama crys that America is racist and should be damned to hell for its sins, will that assuage your anger?”

I’m not angry….but I AM cognizant of the facts of how people were wronged….and those wrongs have yet to be fully addressed…and how people are continuously being wronged by those in control!!

“You must let go of your anger to move forward. Don’t forget, never forget, your ancestors paid too steep a price….sacrificed much too much for that. But make them proud for being the man you CAN be, be a catalyst for liberty and freedom of ALL men, not an adjudicator for the descendants of the sinful. We can all move forward together or fight each other for our version of the past. Its our choice.”

It’s also your choice to RECOGNIZE that people are being wronged….and move towards righting those wrongs!! I’m working towards being one who is righting the wrongs! In order to right the wrong, the wrong must be noted!! Too many have been sacrificed because they have been wronged; those sacrifices must be recognized and the inequities corrected! The first step: ADMITTING that people have been …and are continually being wronged!!

White Man

September 1st, 2010
11:07 am

What does Palins daughter have to do about Beck? Both her AND him would admit it was a mistake.

granny godzilla

September 1st, 2010
11:08 am

Halftrack

Collective salvation is one of the basic tenets of Judaism….

Jason

September 1st, 2010
11:09 am

WWJD = What Would Jason Do?

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

September 1st, 2010
11:10 am

Geeeze, just ask him out already…Everybody knows you have the hots for him…

CurtJa

September 1st, 2010
11:10 am

Mormonism venerates a false prophet, Joseph Smith, and hence is not a Christian religion/denomination. Glenn Beck is a Mormon, and hence not a Christian. See how easy it is? You don’t even have to delve into the perverse LDS lies regarding Jesus and Lucifer as siblings, etc…

Brian white

September 1st, 2010
11:10 am

Cynthia,I am not a”beck freak” but I watched the rally on c-span,it looked to me that he brought hundreds of thousands of people together from different religions including jews and muslims.Where as pres. Obama drives the same people apart.I will stop short of calling you a hypocrite or a racist as others have but you do seem overly biased and some what of a hater especially when the main cause Beck’s rally was the support of fallen soldiers families,that is something we should all get behind liberals and Conservatives.Although I think you are wrong most of the time thanks for giving your honest opinion.

Some People are stupid

September 1st, 2010
11:12 am

I’m not a full out liberal but I’ll answer the questions anyway
* Do you prefer large government or smaller government?
* Do prefer higher taxes or lower taxes?
* Do you believe in liberty.
* Do you believe you get what you earn?

Small or large is relative, if the needs I feel need to be served by the government, are served by the government, then sizes doesn’t matter

Taxation is the same as size. The government has a job to do just like everyne else and needs to be financed. I see no major tax difference between 36% and 39% in real dollars

Of course I believe in liberty. I have the same liberties now that I had in 2004, that I had in 1998. Not real sure why all conservatives think all liberals are trying to take ur liberties. What liberties have you lost?

I do believe you get what you earn. Again, not all liberals are on welfare, Warren Buffet is a liberal, pretty sure he doesn’t know where a welfare office is. On the other hand I know some conservatives that do

Big D

September 1st, 2010
11:12 am

HDB…who is being wronged …Today….continually.