Russian government sees harsh evidence of global warming

While the U.S. remains embroiled in a mind-boggling feud over whether climate change is real, Russia has warmed up to the scientific evidence. “Everyone is talking about climate change now,” President Dmitri A. Medvedev told the Russian Security Council this month. “Unfortunately, what is happening now in our central regions is evidence of this global climate change, because we have never in our history faced such weather conditions in the past.”

Russia’s leaders have usually played the role of obstructionists in global talks about climate change because they thought that combatting it would harm their economic growth (where have we heard that before?) and because they believed that they would benefit from a warming planet. The vast stretch of frozen-over Siberia, they believed, would turn into a pleasant region of moderate temperature, ripe for agriculture and development.
But this summer changed their minds. The costs of climate change have been horrendous. Russia has suffered a devastating drought, and they’re still struggling to put out wildfires. From McClatchy:

Russia’s heat wave, along with its disastrous fallout, finally may have persuaded the Kremlin to combat climate change.

Russian officials, who until now have resisted dramatic action out of fears it would dampen economic growth, lately have issued strong statements linking global warming to the emergency Russia is facing. Some hope the abrupt change of tune will result in more effective environmental policies, even after the smog dies down.

“There is no question that we need to get ahead of climate change,” said Vladimir Slivyak, a co-chair of Ecodefense, a grassroots Russian environmental group. “This is a wake-up call.”

The crisis, which seems to have taken the Kremlin by surprise, features a fierce and unremitting heat wave that’s now well into its second month, a drought that’s ruined as much as a third of the vitally important grain crop and a wave of seemingly uncontrollable wildfires that have blanketed half of European Russia, including the capital Moscow, in a cloud of smoke.

Russia’s state meteorological service said smog conditions in Moscow have eased from a Saturday peak, but the Ministry of Emergency Services warned that Moscow-region fires have tripled size in the past week, spreading from 65 to 210 hectares. Meanwhile, an average of 700 people are dying per day in Moscow, double the average rate, which health officials blamed on the smog.

“Our country has not experienced such a heat wave in the last 50 or even 100 years,” Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said last week in a speech published in English on the Kremlin’s website. “We need to learn our lessons from what has happened, and from the unprecedented heat wave that we have faced this summer.

Russia isn’t the only place where the extremes caused by climate change are in evidence. Yesterday, The New York Times offered a round-up:

The summer’s heat waves baked the eastern United States, parts of Africa and eastern Asia, and above all Russia, which lost millions of acres of wheat and thousands of lives in a drought worse than any other in the historical record.

Seemingly disconnected, these far-flung disasters are reviving the question of whether global warming is causing more weather extremes.

The collective answer of the scientific community can be boiled down to a single word: probably.

“The climate is changing,” said Jay Lawrimore, chief of climate analysis at the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. “Extreme events are occurring with greater frequency, and in many cases with greater intensity.”

He described excessive heat, in particular, as “consistent with our understanding of how the climate responds to increasing greenhouse gases.”

Theory suggests that a world warming up because of those gases will feature heavier rainstorms in summer, bigger snowstorms in winter, more intense droughts in at least some places and more record-breaking heat waves. Scientists and government reports say the statistical evidence shows that much of this is starting to happen.

Here in metropolitan D.C., in addition to a searing heat wave, we’ve enduring a summer of violent, freakish thunder storms that have downed trees, caused flooding and cost lives.

Do scientists have absolute proof the freakish weather has been caused by climate change? No. Does that theory best fit the facts? Yes.

520 comments Add your comment

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
7:29 am

we ignore climate change at our own risk.

or worse at the risk of our children.

Joel

August 16th, 2010
7:32 am

Well, now that Russia is on board with global warming so am I!!!

TaxPayer

August 16th, 2010
7:38 am

Haven’t you heard. Mr. Inhofe, the GOP’s expert on climate change, has declared that as long as there is snow, there can be no global warming. I believe he even declared that we are in the midst of a cyclical global cooling period. hehehe

Eric

August 16th, 2010
7:46 am

TayPayer: What happened to all the ice storms we used to have in Atlanta through the 1970s? They’ve disappeared, which is local proof (enough) of climate change, don’t you think?

One place we start in the U.S. is the curb our society’s appetite for all things new, such as consumer electronics (which we discard so often in favor of the next, but unnecessary version of Microsoft, Blackberry, etc.), which surely takes its toll on the environment.

dougmo2

August 16th, 2010
7:46 am

Global warming is a fruad, the only person who really cares about it is Al Gore. BTW he has become a millionare off of all of the drival and crap being produced by “the sky is falling crowd.”

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
7:52 am

Granny G’s rule #4

The “My excrement has no aroma” Hypothesis.

Only the massive conservative ego can think man has no negative impact on the environment.

That size ego leaves no room for intellect.

Peadawg

August 16th, 2010
8:01 am

In other news:
ttp://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2010/08/16/new-record-set-for-metro-atlanta-foreclosures/
“New record set for metro Atlanta foreclosures”

Hopey changey baby!!! :roll:

Cynthia Is Sexy!!

August 16th, 2010
8:07 am

Due to global climate change I overslept this morning and was a little late for work this morning.

T-Town

August 16th, 2010
8:07 am

For some reason my blogs are not going thru, let’s try this again: When we can’t get a consensus from our weathermen on what the weather will be next weekend, does it surprise you we can’t get a consensus from our scientists on global warmer/cooling. Stay tuned for the next report.

Peadawg

August 16th, 2010
8:10 am

T-Town @ 8:07

HaHa! Very true!!!!

OMG

August 16th, 2010
8:11 am

OH NO. Not the “we ignore global warming at the cost of our children” line. It’s strange we don’t hear that coming from the left with regards to leaving our children outrageous debt so we can have the things we didn’t plan for, work for, prepare for, or earn.

andygrd

August 16th, 2010
8:11 am

The Comment Line: “Russian government sees harsh evidence of global warming”. The hot topic of the day…

However, the sale of nuclear material to Iran by the Russians was over looked……. I guess not a hot topic….. I guess below says it all…….

Gallup Poll – WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans continue to express near-record-low confidence in newspapers and television news — with no more than 25% of Americans saying they have a “great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in either. These views have hardly budged since falling more than 10 percentage points from 2003-2007. No matter the cause, it is clear the media as a whole are not gaining new fans as they struggle to serve and compete with growing demand for online news, social media, and mobile platforms. The Pew Project for Excellence in Journalism’s annual report on the State of the News Media, released in March, found for a third straight year, only digital and cable news sources growing in popularity, while network news, local news, and newspaper audiences shrink. These findings align with a similar 2008 Gallup poll that found cable and Internet news sources growing in popularity while all others held steady or declined.

Oh well…. The Russians are our friends,,, so the sell nuclear material to Iran……. That will really warm up the Globe……hehehehehehe

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:15 am

Bratty1

August 16th, 2010
8:16 am

Oh, and Houston just had it’s first recorded summer without breaking 100 degress…global cooling is coming global cooling is coming!

Bratty1

August 16th, 2010
8:17 am

I will not change my lifestyle one iota over “climate change”. So it’s moot

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

August 16th, 2010
8:17 am

That the climate is changing, there is no doubt. It has been changing since the big bang started the universe. The debate is whether or not the change is man made and whether or not the working people of the USA should be taxed because of the changing climate. Most liberals believe man caused “global warming” and people should be taxed so we can “fix” the problem,most sane people do not.

Bob

August 16th, 2010
8:20 am

No debate about climate change from the right. We know the climate has been in constant change throughout the history of the world. At one point the entire planet was covered in ice, think of what life would be without climate change. Cynthia, why is ice covered Greenland called Greenland ? Was it once green enough to possibly raise crops ? If so, maybe the optimum temps should be the higher ones that allowed the farming of what is now a sheet of ice.

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:22 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
7:29 am

That, or reelecting Imam Obama.

Bratty1

August 16th, 2010
8:22 am

Exactly, chin ho..if climate change was man made , we would never have been in the 2.5 billion year period of glaciation and de glaciation since the end of snowball earth. it’s a pattern..roughly 10K years of de glaciation(were in and cioming to the end of the current one) then 125K years of glaciation.

People are so self important, they think they can change the planet..wrong..the planet will shrug you the F off when and if it feels like it..she is a tough old b*tch.

tscali

August 16th, 2010
8:24 am

ct suffers from munchausen syndrome.

NYTimes: “Does Russia hold hostage the future of a carbon cap-and-trade system that many experts see as a critical tool for curbing global greenhouse gases? Improbable as it may seem, the answer appears to be yes.”

“That is because Russia, as a result of the collapse of much of its heavy industry in the 1990s, owns one of the largest stocks of credits to offset carbon emissions.”

“The unearned windfall, a legacy of the Kyoto agreement that tried to deal with the threat of climate change, is worth several billion dollars. If abruptly sold abroad, those credits could send the price of carbon on the world’s fragile emissions markets plunging toward zero.”

Top priority

August 16th, 2010
8:25 am

I reckon global warming will be a “top priority” like all the others:

FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS: “…that’s something that’s going to be a top priority.” (4/27/10)

ENERGY SECURITY: “And that’s why my energy security plan has been one of the top priorities of my Administration since the day I took office.” (4/28/10)

EDUCATION REFORM: “To train our workers for the jobs of tomorrow, we’ve made education reform a top priority in this Administration.” (2/24/10)

STUDENT LOAN REFORM: “This is something that I’ve made a top priority.” (2/1/10)

EXPORTS BY SMALL BUSINESSES: “This is going to be a top priority.” (12/3/09)

HEALTH ASSISTANCE TO 9/11 FIRST RESPONDERS: “I’m not just talking the talk, we’ve been budgeting this as a top priority for this Administration.” (2/3/10)

END HOMELESSNESS AMONG VETERANS: “I’ve also directed (Veterans Affairs) Secretary Shinseki to focus on a top priority: reducing homeless among veterans.” (8/17/09)

HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS: “Our top priority is ensuring the public safety. That means appropriate sheltering in place or if necessary, getting as many people as possible out of harm’s way prior to landfall.” (5/29/09)

H1N1 FLU VACCINATIONS: “And throughout this process, my top priority has been the health and the safety of the American people.” (5/1/09)

SUPPORT FOR MILITARY FAMILIES: “These military families are heroes too. And they are a top priority of Michelle and me. And they will always have our support.” (5/30/09)

STRENTHENING TIES WITH CANADA AND MEXICO: “We’re going to make this a top priority…” (10/16/09)

CONSUMER PROTECTION: “During these challenging times, the needs of American consumers are a top priority of my Administration.” (2/11/09)

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION: “So this is going to be a top priority generally improving our environmental quality.” (11/5/09)

John

August 16th, 2010
8:26 am

CT – You are an expert on everything! From civil liberties law to the science of meteorology, you are all-knowing and benevolent. We are truly lucky to live in your time.

Riddle me this Einstein. Why is California in the midst of one of their coolest summers ever? Same question for South America abnd Australia too.

The truth is you don’t know jack. You really ought to limit your “writings” to the only things in which you have first hand-knowledge, such as affirmative action.

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:27 am

TaxPayer
August 16th, 2010
7:38 am

And just what would the libs expert, Al Gore, say on the matter? You’ll have to wait until he’s done with his massage to ask him.

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:27 am

John asks….

Why is California in the midst of one of their coolest summers ever? Same question for South America abnd Australia too.

Could it be that their climate is changing…….?

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:30 am

John
August 16th, 2010
8:26 am

You know the left lunatic fringe is getting desperate when then start including Russia’s position on something to make their case.

Bratty1

August 16th, 2010
8:30 am

At obamamotors, socialism is job 1!

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:32 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
8:27 am

So when “global warming” didn’t stick, the left lunatic fringe changed it to an all encompassing “climate change”. This way, if the temps where you live are 5 degrees above normal, or if it’s 5 degrees below normal, they go you covered with “climate change”. My how convenient.

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:35 am

Homey D. Clown

Love your new name today, to bad it’s attached to the same stale old piffle.

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:36 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
8:35 am

Nice dodge, but it didn’t work. Speaking of the “same stal old piffle”, I have two words for you – global warming.

OMG

August 16th, 2010
8:37 am

Two weeks ago the super smart scientists told us that human ancestors did not use tools until about 2 million years ago. One of them finds a stone in the middle of the desert with a couple of scratches on it. Now they tell us we used tools 3.4 million years ago. They were only off by about 1.5 million years.

Scientists desire to get published. They don’t get published unless they challenge the accepted norm. New scientific facts are simply theories that fit known conditions and cannot be immediately refuted. They can write the story however they desire. The “facts” do not have to be proven just withstand being immediately dis-proved by other known facts.

Do we really want to change our entire way of life based on the latest scientific theory? 10 years from now, they may find another rock in the desert. There is simply too much evidence that these scientists are working an agenda. Let’s get some researchers who work for profit to do the research. Current research is done by people whose livelihood comes from grants from the government. Politicians decide who get the grants. Politicians have agendas therefore it is in the scientists self serving interests to give the politicians what they want. The system is compromised.

This just in ...

August 16th, 2010
8:37 am

It gets hot during the summer season! Oh, that’s not news, it’s been happening for a long time. I bet it will be cold in Russia during the winter season.

@ Top priority – good post. I was wondering how many others had noticed how many top priorities this administration has. No wonder they can’t get anything done. If you try to be great at everything you end up being good at nothing!

tscali

August 16th, 2010
8:37 am

Organized Crime & Corruption Reporting Project: “The European Commission last week proposed allowing governments more leeway in how they collect value-added tax (VAT), to cut down on VAT fraud that costs taxpayers billions of dollars every year.”

“The fraud occurs when criminals import goods into a country, VAT free, and then sell them to domestic buyers, charging them VAT. The crooks then disappear with the VAT money and don’t pay the government a dime. Fraudsters usually focus on small but expensive goods – cell phones and computer chips for example – but in August, British authorities arrested nine people for using carbon credits to defraud the government out of $63 million. Similar concerns prompted France to exempt carbon credit sales from VAT in June.”

How low can he go.....

August 16th, 2010
8:38 am

O FALLS TO NEW LOW AT GALLUP DAILY…

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:39 am

Homey D. Clown

Your’s however is not an effective doidge. By creating multiple new personalities you dishonestly create addiditional deniers, and you just look goofy.

You can’t be taken to seriously if you change your name like you change your socks.

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:43 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
8:39 am

Aw shucks, looks like I got you rattled. Sorry if the truth hurts. I notice you resorted to the typical left leaning name calling. “Goofy”. My, how original. I wonder how “goofy” one looks with comments like “doidge”, “addiditional” and “taken to seriously”?

Oh, and since you’re interested, I don’t wear socks during the summer. You know, global warming and all that stuff.

Don't forget

August 16th, 2010
8:45 am

Bob

August 16th, 2010
8:20 am
Cynthia, why is ice covered Greenland called Greenland ? Was it once green enough to possibly raise crops ?
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Actually it’s because the Vikings knew how to use marketing to keep themselves safe from invaders. They named Greenland, a harsh and difficult place Greenland and they named Iceland, a fairly moderate climate Iceland. Pretty smart huh?

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:46 am

Is August 16th a liberal’s holiday? I just noticed that most of the posts on Socialist Cindy’s blog seem to be right leaning. Where are the other baiters and name callers?

neo-Carlinist

August 16th, 2010
8:46 am

CT, a coupla a three things;

1 – While the U.S. remains embroiled in a mind-boggling feud over whether climate change is real, Russia has warmed up to the scientific evidence. I know this is an “editorial” blog, but my mind is not “boggled”. I know climate change is real. more later.

2 – Russia’s leaders have usually played the role of obstructionists in global talks about climate change because they thought that combatting it would harm their economic growth (where have we heard that before?)

Irony can be ironic, can’t it? Russia’s change of hear is also tied to “economic growth”. Do you think the Russian government (or the US government for that matter) cares about life and death or the survival of the nation, beyond “jobs” and the “economy” (global and local)? as with any crisis (Rahm E?), climate change is “real” but it offers a great opportunity for political (financial) gain on a smaller scale, but “economic growth” nonetheless.

3 – “climate change, devastating droughts, and wildfires; OH my!” homo sapiens have battled these things since before the industrial age, and what most have learned is; while saving the planet” makes for good copy on the campaign trail, it remains to be seen if “the Kremlin” – or Al Gore and his lot can actually “combat climate change”. I’ve said this a million times, “winning” the war on “cimate change” is about as likely as winning the “war on terrorism”. both climate change and terrorism (especially the fanatical Islam type” is a fact of life, and the “cover charge” for being around in 2010.

4 – “There is no question that we need to get ahead of climate change,” said Vladimir Slivyak, a co-chair of Ecodefense, a grassroots Russian environmental group. “This is a wake-up call.” Mankind has ALWAYS hit the snooze button.

5 – Meanwhile, an average of 700 people are dying per day in Moscow, double the average rate, which health officials blamed on the smog.

Blame the “deaths” on the smog, balme the smog on the wildfires, and blame the wild fires and the drought and the drought on climate change. you might as well take this back to Genesis; as it will produce the same (deer in headlights) conclusion. Here’s a thought. Perhaps Mother Nature (caps intended) is trying to tell us there are too many people on the planet? Perhaps MN is trying to tell us to stop deforestation?

5 – The summer’s heat waves baked the eastern United States, parts of Africa and eastern Asia, and above all Russia, which lost millions of acres of wheat and thousands of lives in a drought worse than any other in the historical record. See above.

7 – The collective answer of the scientific community can be boiled down to a single word: probably. I think the real questions is; is it too late? neo-Carlinist answer; probably. As I said, we (homo sapines) kill each other at an “alarming” rate. you know what else “threatens” mankind? WAR. does it really matter how we become extinct (the Flat Earth/Rature crowd, aside)?

Justin

August 16th, 2010
8:47 am

To my lib friends- we should smartly minimize the bad stuff we put in the air and on the ground and in landfills. I suggest we don’t continue to institutionalize the issue so that the few (see Jesse Jackson and Al Gore) don’t reap a goodly amount of the benefit.

On another note I trust everyone is seeing that the beloved lib economist Krugman is having his head handed to him on a silver platter. It appears that Germany is doing quite well without massive austerity program- In December 2008 Krugman stated that Germany had their head in the sand. Bush burned our money in wars and Obama is burning more of our money on wasted programs- emphasis on “our”

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:47 am

How low can he go…..he’s still a point higher than Reagan was at the
end of his second year in office…

T-Town

August 16th, 2010
8:50 am

Do you remember:

“With so much in the news about swine flu, also called 2009 pandemic novel influenza A H1N1, it’s wise to know what it is, what you can expect, and how to protect yourself and your loved ones. Empowered patients can use this knowledge to reduce their fear of swine flu.”

“On October 25, 2009 U.S. President Barack Obama officially declared H1N1 a national emergency. “

Was there an epidemic in this country? I didn’t see one. Now I’m not saying we didn’t have a problem with the swine flu, but it’s hard to believe all those scientists who were running around screaming that this was an epidemic……and the swine flu had a mild affect here. Now I ask just who do we believe when it comes to global warming?

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:50 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
8:47 am

And that was Bush’s fault, right?

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:50 am

Homey D. Clown

Rattled? Not hardly. That’s what you always say just before you meltdown and morph into a new identity.

I really do enjoy watching your changes, you’re a regular blog soap opera.

As the name turns….

Gay Blade

August 16th, 2010
8:50 am

You can always count on granny to say something stupid.

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:51 am

T-Town
August 16th, 2010
8:50 am

“Now I ask just who do we believe when it comes to global warming?”

Hmm, let’s see. Al Gore or Average Joe Citizen? I’ll take Average Joe Citizen.

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:51 am

Homey D. Clown

Reagans approval? I don’t think, so why do you?

That’s silly.

JohnnyReb

August 16th, 2010
8:52 am

The misled who think man can do anything, short of nuclear armageddon, to affect climate change are exceeded only by Obama arrogance.

Pity those who believe the climate can be altered by shifting American wealth into the pockets of CCX and third world countries.

granny godzilla

August 16th, 2010
8:52 am

Gay Blade

A happy Monday Morning to you too.

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:53 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
8:50 am

Thank you, all knowing and all seeing Carnac the Magnificent. Quick, who was I on Friday?

Homey D. Clown

August 16th, 2010
8:54 am

granny godzilla
August 16th, 2010
8:51 am

You and the entire left lunatic fringe seem to blame Bush for everything. I was just helping you out.