Health care law gains support? Well, of course

Here’s news that’s really no surprise: a new poll has found that support for the health care reform law has been gradually rising. The GOP hysteria proved unfounded, as voters now know.

From The WaPo:

Opposition to the landmark health care overhaul declined over the past month, to 35 percent from 41 percent, according to the latest results of a tracking poll, reported Thursday.

Fifty percent of the public held a favorable view of the law, up slightly from 48 percent a month ago, while 14 percent expressed no opinion about the measure, according to the poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The approval level was the highest for the legislation since it was enacted in March, after a divisive year-long debate. In April, the poll found 46 percent in favor and 40 percent opposed.

(The chart shows an average of several polls; the Kaiser poll reports support at 50 percent.)

A couple of things help explain the rising support. One is that the debate over health reform was ugly, polarized and protracted. When it lingered – sourly — in the news, the ugliness helped sour people on the very idea of health care reform. Once the debate ended, so did some of the hostility to the proposal.
The second thing is that Republicans over-reached in their exaggerations and hysteria about the problems the new law would cause: Death panels! Rationing! Now that people see the world hasn’t ended, they’ve relaxed a bit.

If Obama and the rest of the Democrats were better at politics and messaging, they’d remind voters that health care reform was critical not only for today’s uninsured but also for the future economy. Work-based health insurance is fading away as more and more workers are hired for short term contracts. The new health care law provides flexibility for a new economy.

270 comments Add your comment

arnold

July 29th, 2010
4:04 pm

Well, duh!!!

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
4:07 pm

Good News.

Now lets look HR 5808, The Public Option for Helathcare, sponsored by Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA)….CBO found the proposal would reduce the deficit by $68 billion from 2014 to 2020.

That is of course if you are serious about reducing the deficit.

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
4:08 pm

healthcare, healthcare….

Tech Man

July 29th, 2010
4:12 pm

Wait until the costs hit. The majority of employer plans renew January 1, 2010. Rate increases caused by reform will drop those poll numbers.

Drawing Black Lines

July 29th, 2010
4:16 pm

This is not looking good for the Obama administration in 2012. We unfortunately have to learn like other’s who’ve tried this that “It all looks good on paper” until you put it in practice.

Scout

July 29th, 2010
4:19 pm

Oh, Cynthiiiiiaaaa:

“One of the biggest targets should the GOP regain control of either the U.S. House or Senate in November’s elections, according to many polls, will be Obamacare, the president’s plan that effectively nationalized the decision-making process for health-care issues.

But a little-reported move to begin demolition of the health-care system takeover already is pending in the House and has gained about three-quarters of the support it needs to repeal the law that demands citizens buy insurance or pay financial penalties.

As of last night, the discharge petition sponsored by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, had collected 162 signatures of the 218 it would need to advance – even in the face of continued opposition from Obamacare promoter House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.”

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
4:22 pm

Typical liberal politics:

Earnings are up at Aetna Inc. and WellPoint Inc., and that has outraged a key congressional leader.

Rep. Pete Stark, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee health subcommittee, accused WellPoint and Aetna of earning “windfalls.”

The companies should return the windfalls to enrollees in the form of lower premiums, Stark says in a statement.

“With business booming, there is no excuse for any premium hikes or benefit cuts next year by Wellpoint or Aetna in their private sector or Medicare Advantage plans,” Stark says.
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Aetna earned about $27 in net profits per insurance plan enrollee during the quarter, or about $9 per month..

WellPoint, Indianapolis (NYSE:WLP), is reporting $722 million in net income for the latest quarter on $30 billion in revenue, compared with $693 million in net income on $15 billion in revenue for the second quarter of 2009.

WellPoint earned about $22 per medical insurance enrollee during the quarter..
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Wow, what tremendous windfalls. The hot air is warming the planet.

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
4:28 pm

Scout

Which website did you get that from?

It’s on ImpeachObama.com, barryfail.com, wnd.com, freerepublic.com,
teaflavoredharborwater.com, bitchaboutobama.com,….

Frankly makes me question its accuracy.

I'm here from the government and I'm here to help

July 29th, 2010
4:31 pm

CT, why do you try to sell Ice to Eskimos? The cost have not hit us yet but you think support is growing. 2011 and beyond let’s see how much support grows. Your a tad premature, girlfriend. Of course all this might be moot when the Republicans take over in 3 months.

Um Cynthia, hate to interject some logic, but...

July 29th, 2010
4:32 pm

“The second thing is that Republicans over-reached in their exaggerations and hysteria about the problems the new law would cause: Death panels! Rationing! Now that people see the world hasn’t ended, they’ve relaxed a bit.”

Has the law even gone fully into effect yet? Isn’t waaaay too early to say the Republicans “over-reached” on the implications of the law, when the law hasn’t even gone fully into effect yet?

Notice Tucker didn’t ask us to look at any Democratic claims to see what health care would do, to see if they also “over-reached”.

The one question conservatives won't answer

July 29th, 2010
4:34 pm

Will Obamacare pay for a buttocks reattachment, in cases where a blogger got their @ss handed to them in a debate on immigration?

t

July 29th, 2010
4:35 pm

granny talks of deficit reduction, but ignores the correction of the CBO’s numbers of the over all bill.

t

July 29th, 2010
4:40 pm

they finally admitted there would be tax increases, at least we’re getting some honesty. Reid admits they still want the public option, which many progressives have claimed is the foundation for a single payer system.

Clear as fog

July 29th, 2010
4:46 pm

“The GOP hysteria proved unfounded, as voters now know.”

Ok, so that we are clear Cynthia, you are saying that concerns the opponents had about the bill are unfounded…even though the bill hasn’t been fully implemented yet?

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
4:46 pm

t

of course I ignore that falsehood……

“Right-wing media have claimed that health care reform will “cost $115 billion more than we thought,” thus “wip[ing] out” promised deficit reductions. In fact, that money would only be spent if Congress separately appropriates it, just as Congress would have to do for any other spending bill. And even then, that spending would only adversely impact the deficit if Congress decided not to offset it with corresponding spending cuts or revenue increases.”

From MMA

Please tell us all when that appropriation happened.
We’ll wait.

Clear as fog

July 29th, 2010
4:52 pm

Granny, off the top of your head, can you name one government program that costs less than was originally thought?

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
4:53 pm

t

July 29th, 2010
4:56 pm

Granny, when has Congress not spent something? I won’t hold my breath.

Funny thing coming out of Arizona, “The state of Arizona recently notified employees that their costs will go up as a result of the new law.” Get used to it, it will be the norm if we can’t repeal the monstrosity.

How about the doc fix? more money spent.

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
4:58 pm

TARP didn’t cost less. The money was expected to be paid back with interest.

t

July 29th, 2010
5:00 pm

Wasn’t TARP under Bush? And guess what is happening to all that money they are getting back? We’re SPENDING it!!!

t

July 29th, 2010
5:01 pm

That’s weird Cynthia, RealClearPolitics, which actually compiles legitimate polls, has it at 38 support 50 oppose. How about that?

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
5:01 pm

At least that is my memory which may be failing….

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
5:05 pm

One section of the Affordable Care Act, the federal package that includes the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), would create a voluntary, participant-funded long term care benefits program. Workers would be enrolled in the program automatically but could choose to opt out.

Critics, including analysts at the Congressional Budget Office and Rick Foster, the chief actuary of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, have argued that the CLASS program would be unsound and would enter a “death spiral,” with premiums escalating and the health status of the remaining insureds deteriorating.

quod erat demonstrandum

July 29th, 2010
5:11 pm

People have been lulled into not thinking about it. The Democrats have succeeded in dumbing down the average person.

Like those in mid-town, they like it because now they will be covered under mama’s policy and will not cost them a dime.

When the reality of the loss of freedom of choice and the cost (taxes) then the people will get angry all over again.

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
5:16 pm

quod erat demonstrandum

July 29th, 2010
5:11 pm

Like those in mid-town, they like it because now they will be covered under mama’s policy and will not cost them a dime.
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Mama’s dependent policy cost is going to increase. For example, just wait for the State Benefit Health Plan rates come out in October for State Employees.
State COBRA premium for a single out of college kid with the SBHP is in excess of $400.00 month. Now take that risk combined with other PPACA mandates and watch premiums increase.

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
5:19 pm

Obama wants some sugar to talk about for the 2010 election cycle and hold off some of the pain until after the elections. Pain, such as medical cost increases and an approved federal budget.

Lil' Barry Bailout

July 29th, 2010
5:21 pm

Typical blame-game stuff from the Idiot Messiah…nothing is ever his fault:

Obama on ‘The View’: Blames media in racial firing

NEW YORK – President Barack Obama blames the media for creating a “phony controversy” over racial remarks by a black Agriculture Department official that were posted on the Internet. His administration ousted the employee, but then apologized and offered to rehire her.
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Last time I checked, administration employees work for the president, not the media.

Idiot Messiah: Retard.

Lil' Barry Bailout

July 29th, 2010
5:24 pm

The Idiot Messiah’s plan all along has been to drive up costs for insurance so folks will start screaming for single payer. And based on the last election, there are enough loser parasites in this country to make that happen.

People who work for a living need to get out and vote in November.

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
5:29 pm

Sorry boys, Tarp will cost 200 billion less than expected.

See WSJ 12-7-09

Can’t say without doing research, but I’d bet it’s based on the Obama administrations handling of the 2nd half.

I hope for y’alls sake, pedaling backwards is as good for the thighs as pedaling forwards.

ctucker

July 29th, 2010
5:30 pm

lil Barry Bailout, So, if I understand you correctly, insurance premiums were not going up before ‘obamacare’?

Clear as fog

July 29th, 2010
5:31 pm

I’ll take you at your word that TARP is one granny. Can any one else name a government program that costs more than was originally estimated?

ctucker

July 29th, 2010
5:31 pm

t, I suppose we’d disagree on the definition of “legitimate polls.”

Keep up the good fight!

July 29th, 2010
5:31 pm

Bailout…… The R word (and I am not referring to republican) is highly offensive to many people who may have disabilities. Now in your unbalance daily diatribe against Obama can you try not to be so offensive. They have hearts and feelings…appartently something you lack.

Tech man

July 29th, 2010
5:31 pm

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
5:29 pm

I was wrong on TARP but I can’t catch you pedaling backwards on health costs.

Clear as fog

July 29th, 2010
5:33 pm

So if we are to understand you correctly Cynthia, you are implying that concerns opponents had about Obamacare are unfounded…and you are implying that even before the program has been fully implemented?

pathetic

July 29th, 2010
5:33 pm

All you need to know is that this story was in the Obama (Washington) Post and the “poll” was conducted by the pro-Socialist healthcare organization Henry Kaiser Family Foundation. Zero mention of the sample size that was polled. Number of people, age, registered voters, party affiliation, nothing.

As usual Cindy, nice try but no cigar.

OH CYNTHIA!?!?!?!?!?

July 29th, 2010
5:35 pm

WHY NO MENTION STILL ON THE OBAMA DOJ NOT FINDING A SINGLE SHRED OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OCCURING DURING THE MEDIA CREATED “BUSH FIRED JUDGES” CONTROVERSY? YOU AFTERALL DEMANDED GONZALEZ RESIGN OR BE FIRED??? WHY THE SILENCE????????

rational citizen

July 29th, 2010
5:36 pm

same with gay marriage, put nazi heatlhcare on the ballot and it wouldn’t win in a single state. the kooks don’t have the balls to put their money where their mouth is.

Tech Man

July 29th, 2010
5:37 pm

CT –

Op-Ed: Massachusetts, National Health Reform Share Same Flaws.
Grace-Marie Turner, president of the Galen Institute, writes in a Kaiser Health News (7/22) op-ed, “If Massachusetts is a harbinger — and all evidence indicates it is — the new federal health overhaul legislation is headed for serious trouble.” Turner adds, “Massachusetts and the federal government built their reform efforts using similar architectural plans — strict regulation of health insurance, mandates on individuals and businesses, expensive new taxpayer-funded subsidies and a major expansion of Medicaid — and both share a central structural flaw in failing to address rising health costs.” She concludes, “Health reform in the Bay State has increased demand without increasing the supply of health care providers, it continues to keep people in the dark about the true cost of health care and health insurance,” and “Washington’s health overhaul law has the same structural flaws.”

Arizona Says Health Insurance Costs Will Rise Up To 37 Percent Due To Health Reforms.
The Arizona Republic (7/21, Alltucker) reports Arizona “state and university employees with families can expect to see their monthly health-insurance costs rise as much as 37 percent next year, depending on the type of plan they choose.” Figures provided by the Arizona Department of Administration “show that health plans for families and single adults with children” will bear “the most-expensive monthly premium increases” beginning Jan. 1, while “individuals will pay modest increases.” The Department of Administration “cited federal health reform as the reason” the state’s health plans will carry “greater expenses and higher premiums for members.”

Ohio May Need $1 Billion More Next Year For Medicaid.
The Columbus Dispatch (7/21, Siegel) reports that “unless Ohio gets more federal stimulus help, state leaders will have to spend $1 billion more next year on Medicaid just to keep the same level of coverage that’s in place today.” The “sobering statistic” was one of “many relayed during a four-hour hearing today of the Budget Planning and Management Commission,” the bipartisan legislative panel that is examining ways “to deal with a future budget shortfall that could reach $8 billion.” The hearing focused on Medicaid because it is the “single-largest area of spending in the budget and has grown fast – an estimated 30 percent in three years by the end of June 2011.” Some have “proposed ideas such as capping hospital payments” and cutting “the 12.5 percent administrative allowance for HMOs.”

songbird

July 29th, 2010
5:38 pm

Lil Barry dumbf–k – maybe you should try looking at who voted for Obama in 2008. He actually won among voters that earned $250K or more. I suppose none of them work.

Moderate Line

July 29th, 2010
5:39 pm

The margin of error for the Kaiser poll is + or -3%. In reality the poll indicates there “may” be an improvement in how people view the healthcare legislation.

I am sure the Republicans are saying of course Obama poll numbers have dropped below 50% because……

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
5:40 pm

A word of advice to my friends on the right….as predicted y’alls rhetoric is getting uglier and meaner and stranger as we get closer
to the midterms. It will not serve you any better than it did in 2008.

Only a certain type of person gets turned on by that kind of stuff
and thank heavens it remains a minority.

Now please excuse me….I got a date!

jerry

July 29th, 2010
5:41 pm

Mrs. Tucker,

To quote the “non-racist” Shirley Sherrod, I see where “one of your own” attacked a white male down in Florida for listening to rap. He told his victim that white people aren’t allowed to listen to rap and then proceeded to attack him like a barbaric savage. This racist waste of skin is only 14 years old. Thoughts??????

Keep up the good fight!

July 29th, 2010
5:41 pm

Always love the predictions of the angry mobs and the major tax increases that must be coming…I guess Sharon Angle will fix it all when she gets elected as the polls and mobs demand…oh wait, Reid has taken the lead. So much for those predictions! Fortunately the fight to get out the truth is slowly prevailing over the efforts to distort, lie and mislead by the right

granny's eating paint chips again

July 29th, 2010
5:43 pm

Minority? Sweetie, each poll that comes out shows the Conservatives are gaining more and more. Latest figures have 40% of Americans considering themselves Conservative, while only 19% consider themselves liberals. Looks like you people are a dying breed. And thank goodness for that ;)

Tech Man

July 29th, 2010
5:45 pm

Granny Godzilla

July 29th, 2010
5:40 pm

If I had to defend the liberal position on PPACA not increasing costs I would be going out too. (injection of humor)

Have a good time! (serious statement)

Tech Man

July 29th, 2010
5:46 pm

Keep up the good fight!

July 29th, 2010
5:41 pm

Show me where I have distorted, lied or mislead on the healthcare issue.

both sides of the coin

July 29th, 2010
5:46 pm

granny doesn’t get it. Both sides are full of bullskeet, that’s why the voters, to minimize the damage, will return control of the House to the bullskeet repubs, in the same way they return control of the House to the bullskeet dems back in 06.

Tommy Maddox

July 29th, 2010
5:47 pm

As M. Jackson and P.McCartney sang at the end of “The Girl is Mine”:

“You keep dreaming!” “I don’t believe it!”

Keep up the good fight!

July 29th, 2010
5:47 pm

Jerry…do you bring up the stupidity to try to proof a point about Sherrod? Do you think that there is not a case today where a white person did not attack a black person just on the basis of race. That there are people with anger and prejudice against other races is not a relevation. Do you say the same about members of white supremacy groups? Time for you to enter into a grownup conversation instead of a childish pointless argument.