Sen. Webb says ‘white privilege’ is a myth

It’s pretty difficult to have a rational discussion about race, for the reasons my colleague Jay Bookman has outlined today. Quite frankly, his list of reasons is incomplete: Today’s political and civic climate includes a host of loud mouths who are not interested in a rational conversation about race. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Andrew Breitbart come to mind.
Nevertheless, I sally forth in the hope that a few reasonable people might come across new information that gives them pause, makes them think, changes their minds. Today, Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) has a fascinating column in the Wall Street Journal that ought to provide fodder for reasonable conversation. UPDATE: A reader pointed to a link to the column, so here it is. )
The column, which has a rather provocative title, “Diversity and The Myth of White Privilege,” argues for the end of government-sanctioned affirmative action programs. But it’s not a simple-minded argument which pretends that discrimination, especially against blacks, never existed. Instead, Webb points out that broad-based diversity efforts boost “people of color” who never suffered historic discrimination in this country, while excluding whites who have suffered poverty.
I don’t agree with everything Webb says. He exaggerates in places, claiming, for example, that “WASP elites have fallen by the wayside,” a gross exaggeration which ignores the concentration of WASPs among the wealthy and powerful. (George H.W.Bush and sons come to mind.)
Nevertheless, Webb raises valid points:

I have dedicated my political career to bringing fairness to America’s economic system and to our work force, regardless of what people look like or where they may worship. Unfortunately, present-day diversity programs work against that notion, having expanded so far beyond their original purpose that they now favor anyone who does not happen to be white.

In an odd historical twist that all Americans see but few can understand, many programs allow recently arrived immigrants to move ahead of similarly situated whites whose families have been in the country for generations. These programs have damaged racial harmony. And the more they have grown, the less they have actually helped African-Americans, the intended beneficiaries of affirmative action as it was originally conceived.

How so?

Lyndon Johnson’s initial program for affirmative action was based on the 13th Amendment and on the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which authorized the federal government to take actions in order to eliminate “the badges of slavery.” Affirmative action was designed to recognize the uniquely difficult journey of African-Americans. This policy was justifiable and understandable, even to those who came from white cultural groups that had also suffered in socio-economic terms from the Civil War and its aftermath.

The injustices endured by black Americans at the hands of their own government have no parallel in our history, not only during the period of slavery but also in the Jim Crow era that followed. But the extrapolation of this logic to all “people of color”—especially since 1965, when new immigration laws dramatically altered the demographic makeup of the U.S.—moved affirmative action away from remediation and toward discrimination, this time against whites. It has also lessened the focus on assisting African-Americans, who despite a veneer of successful people at the very top still experience high rates of poverty, drug abuse, incarceration and family breakup.

Those who came to this country in recent decades from Asia, Latin America and Africa did not suffer discrimination from our government, and in fact have frequently been the beneficiaries of special government programs. The same cannot be said of many hard-working white Americans, including those whose roots in America go back more than 200 years.

I would choose a different remedy than Webb’s. I would argue that affirmative action programs still have a role to play, but they should be class-based and not color-based.

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Scout

July 23rd, 2010
11:31 pm

Ronald Jc:

Well, sir you obviously don’t know me or I you so you really shouldn’t opine like that but for the record just a very few points:

1) I would have died for my black buddies in Nam and they for me (USMC)
2) A black teenager used to babysit my twins
3) My twins used to go spend Sundays with a wonderful black couple from our church
4) Our kids have had black friends spend the night
5) I have had close black neighbors
6) The of the best bosses I ever had were black
7) I serve in our church with black brother deacons
8) I have had many black friends in our home for fellowship, etc.
9) I spent 34 years in an occupation where I gave a “leg up” to black applicants (but I am very conflicted about that
10) In that same federal law enforcement organization my black brother agents had “my back” and I theirs
11) I have wept at many black funerals
12) I could go on and on but I hope you get the picture

Ronald Jc

July 23rd, 2010
11:32 pm

@waterst – “What to solve the race problem? Get the 80% of black American parents who ignore their kids and teach them absolutely nothing, to start doing their damned jobs.”

80%, where did you get that number? Do you even know how many Black parents there are? And did you mean to say “want to solve” instead of “what to solve?” Sounds like your parents needed to teach you something also.

Scout

July 23rd, 2010
11:32 pm

waterst :

You have “the” key but I don’t know how to turn it in the lock ……………. sad.

jarvis

July 23rd, 2010
11:33 pm

Poor people wouldn’t be poor if they weren’t so damned stupid and/or lazy.

One of my grandfathers was a ticket taker at a bus station for 50 years. His father was a farmer on another man’s land.

My other grandfather was a dock worker in Savannah for his entire adult life. His father was a louse and a drunkard.

Only three generations later, my children have no idea what it is like to do without. Why is that? Did my family get handouts? No, we worked hard to better ourselves.

Only slackers and dumba$$es continue to have nothing generation after generation.

Beleck

July 23rd, 2010
11:36 pm

Christ lived in a time similar to ours, with a Government,Romans, who took everything just like today.
Voluntary! My eye!!

when is it voluntary to allow prejudice and abuse to another human and not do something.
do unto others is not a Voluntary admonition. none of the evil by neglect is permissible if you follow Christ’s golden rule. such hogwash is just an excuse. if you follow Christ, he tells you help those less fortunate, as in lest for God there goes me or that parable.

there are so many admonitions about helping those less fortunate than ourselves. that i wonder. how these people can call themselves Christians when they opt to pick and choose what parts of Christ’s message to believe in and follow. Call the liars out.

he who is without sin, and all are God’s children. and all those wonderful platitudes that are hardly practiced. just outright fear turned into nothing resembling Christ’’s messages.

Scout

July 23rd, 2010
11:43 pm

The Bible also says, “if a man will not work, let him not eat.”

Jesus had the ability to feed the entire world ………. why didn’t He?

BTW: as a member of our church security team (yes, we have had some problems) I give cash money out of my own pocket to people who come by in need almost every week.

Scout

July 23rd, 2010
11:44 pm

Beleck:

Have you ever read that study that was done on people who win big in lottery? I mean hundreds of thousands, millions …………..

The great majority withina few years are right back where they started or worse off.

That’s what we are dealing with here.

Ronald Jc

July 23rd, 2010
11:45 pm

@Scout – congratulations on doing your part in race relations, but many others do not have the advantage of being in a situation like the military and understanding that we all bleed the same. I am still a little confused about your being “conflicted” about helping blacks get jobs. Were they qualified? Do you get conflicted when you help your white friends? You made this statement….

July 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm

Jose:

“Our government system of taking care of people has ruined generations of families and wasted Trillions.”

2 things. Many people think that the only people the government “takes care of” is black people, and secondly, what do you suggest? Should the government stop taking care of people through Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment Insurance and Social Security? All Government programs?

Beleck

July 23rd, 2010
11:47 pm

yes, i have known some lazy “good for nothing” people who deserved what they got. and they chose that path for reasons i will never understand much less know.

the idea of calling God’s children some lazy assed good for nothing piece of @@@ must be a really rewarding concept of the society we live in. to think we have chosen to throw away “humans” who are not “good enough” for our “reality.” is a really nice way to view the world. those that can and those that wont. and do away with those that wont. no matter the reason.

they are just doomed to be discarded like a piece of trash for the trashman. such values of inherent worth are just a mirror of those who think that way. and besides why would i let someone (who doesn’t “put out” or make it in society) keep me from helping those that really need it.

we are to do what we can in spite of those “losers.” i certainly think society is worth more when we put more into it than take out. you get what you give. there will alway be those scum suckers, just a part of the spectrum of who people are. i am not going to let them influence how i value people who really need help and are deserving of that extra bit.

throwing the whole society out for the errors of a few is not a good model for society to even begin with. and who decides if “you” are worth saving. what goes around comes around.

phil

July 23rd, 2010
11:48 pm

Cynthia- You are 2 for 2 this week and I’m really digging the fact that I’ve agreed with you AGAIN. I love the article you linked to and love the idea. This is a great idea to heal the racial divide in this country between whites and blacks. I come from a poor (very poor) white family and the kind of thing Webb is saying strikes a chord with me. Its not cool that I had to pay 100% of my college tuition, while some black and hispanic kids (with equal or lower academic success from my high school) from much wealthier families got full rides. Lets end race-based preference programs for good and let the healing begin.

Ronald Jc

July 23rd, 2010
11:53 pm

@ Beleck – you sir, are one of God’s children. Great words.

Beleck

July 23rd, 2010
11:55 pm

well, i don’t think starving people is a good thing either.if Christ said to let people starve, well i have to rethink the idea of Christ being Good. additionally, there is only so much any one can do for another. but we must do what we can. and know when to say when. just not have a society say who can and cannot be helped.

the whole Voluntary thing is so skewed. if you can’t help, fine, but don’t stop those who can. no one has the right to force their beliefs on others, sadly, in America we must Believe or leave! this way or the highway.

people are people and money only get in the way a lot of the times. Money is a form of power and power corrupts absolutely. so rich people and or sudden wealth is a devil’s trick. very few can survive the “pull” of power. and Congress is proof of that.

Beleck

July 24th, 2010
12:02 am

i didn’t choose to be born in the South and live during the Civil Rights Era. i just saw a lot of people yelling at each other over this and that. and many years later i see the fear has just been used as a tool to manipulate and use this side against that side.

pure political abuse. the fear is still being used to scare whites against blacks and blacks against whites, rile the locals, keep them stirred. the FEAR is still as strong as ever. so,shall we continue to scream and yell and bleed again and again.

amazing to think all this time has gone and still the “Fear” is running things amok.

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:04 am

Ronald Jc:

1) By “conflicted” I mean in an effort (mandated by Headquarters) to hire certain percentages of employees I found myself “going with the program” and at times recommending less qualified black males over more qualified white males, or less qualified black females over better qualified balck males, etc., etc. just to make the proper percentage. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.

2) And while I am at it I have something more to say and to get off my chest.

Most white liberals see everything by race and have never been close enough to a black person to be “tight enough” to tell black and redneck peckerwood jokes to each other and laugh yourself silly, or be willing to risk your life for each other, or swap backwash from a warm canteen of water or whatever !

Do you remember the scene (I would show it but Ms. Cynthia doesn’t allow attachments) in “Full Metal Jacket” where the machine gunner is telling his black buddy in the squad “I hope you die of cycle cell!” and the black guy is saying something like, “You cracker, I hope you ……… whatever” ?

Most liberals (and maybe you too) have no concept of that kind of relationship. They’re all fluff when it comes to race, no substance ……….. and frankly it makes me sick !!

phil

July 24th, 2010
12:05 am

You are right, Beleck. But lets be clear about something- Fear is used almost exclusively as a tool against white people, not a tool used by white people.

Rich

July 24th, 2010
12:15 am

All you have to do is look at the ugly, negative, responses, here, to realize, there is still a need for affirmative action. Racism is alive, and well, apparently, even today.

MAC

July 24th, 2010
12:18 am

Eliminate all diversity programs for anyone with a net worth over $500,000 . Period.

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:20 am

Headline: “Ousted ag official finds new cause – “We’ve gotta get beyond this black vs. white issue,” Shirley Sherrod says.”

So why did she call me a racist (a Republican who opposes Obama’s health care plan) ?????

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:21 am

Rich:

Did you read my 12:04 ??

MAC

July 24th, 2010
12:22 am

And eliminate any diversity based designations (DBE, MBE, etc. ) when their net worth crosses $500,000. So you don’t get grandfathered in for more diversity designated business because you once started under the threshold.

Net worth qualifiers for college admissions also.

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:24 am

Headline: “Chelsea Clinton Wedding Price Tag Could Reach $2 Million”

Ah, those filthy rich liberals ………………

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:24 am

P.S.

I wonder how many poor people that would feed ?

Ronald Jc

July 24th, 2010
12:31 am

@Scout – Let me ask you this. Were all the blacks less qualified? Did you try to find some that were? If you didn’t hire them, would any minorities gotten hired at your business? Also, how did those people work out? Being able to tell each other racist jokes and not get all out of shape about it is good but it still doesn’t help people get jobs. Those racist jokes are told in offices all over Georgia anyway.

I find it funny that some of the same people arguing against AA will go to Athens on Saturdays and scream for “less qualified” black football players and beg for them to come to their school as long as they are helping UGA win. Same concept. As long as blacks are helping this country win it is ok. (i.e send them to war in the name of democracy and then come home to country clubs they can’t go to) As soon as Blacks say, hey shouldn’t we get to own teams and coach too, it is a problem. They are told, you are “not qualified” to coach or play quarterback.

Ronald Jc

July 24th, 2010
12:38 am

@Scout -did you wonder how many poor people Sarah Palin’s wardrobe during the election would feed? Did you wonder how many people Jenna Bush’s wedding costs would feed? Did you wonder how many people the Republicans kept from being fed when they delayed the unemployment extension? Stop trying to justify your bias. I know you and your kind, as long as they are the “right kind” of Black they are cool. Truth is, you are afraid that a black man might actually be more intelligent, work harder, and deserve more than you and you want to prove that unless they play by “your rules” they don’t deserve it.

Ace

July 24th, 2010
12:41 am

“Honestly I think women are probably still discriminated against more than black men.Women still consistently make less money than men-many studies have shown”–

Maybe this is true because men are responsible for paying for alimony, child support, etc, etc

Ronald Jc

July 24th, 2010
12:43 am

Well, goodnight all, I am off to play golf. Yes, Tiger Woods isn’t the only one. Be afraid, very afraid, I am coming to your country club soon!

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:50 am

Ronald Jc:

I’ve stated my case and stand by it. Thanks for the discussion and your input.

P.S. It’s not a racist joke unless you believe the person or race you are joking about is genetically inferior. Can you not get that through your head?

Insensitive ? Maybe

Racist ? Nope.

Adios !

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:53 am

Ace :

No but in large part it is because men in general (with exceptions) have the physically harder, tougher, more dangerous jobs.

If the job is the same they should be paid the same.

But a secretary does not necessarily derserve the same pay as a “hot powerline” pole climber.

Scout

July 24th, 2010
12:54 am

Ronald Jc @ 12:43

Fine. Just leave the chip on your shoulder at home. We’re tired of seeing it.

Bawney Fwank

July 24th, 2010
12:57 am

Cindy you’re constantly projecting your deep racial bias!

Scout

July 24th, 2010
1:03 am

Headline: “Sen. John Kerry skips town on sails tax”

What hypocrisy !!

JMS

July 24th, 2010
1:07 am

Cynthia,
Out of a desire to look at both sides of issues, I find myself reading your column on occassion (usually once or twice a month on Sunday). For the most part I find that you are fixated on race, specifically anti-black discrimination. I think your point of view is myopic, and that people of your ilk (including Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.) perpetuate the race card for your own gain. If not for the actions of you and groups like the NAACP that profit from racial discrimination, our country would make huge strides towards equality.

Once "Recent" Reader

July 24th, 2010
1:16 am

There was a poster who indicated everytime he/she does this (disagrees with liberals) or that (disagrees with Obama Administration) . . .etc, then they are “considered racist”. Unfortunately the non-stop pushing of this type of thinking by ONE major “news” station and many right wing bloggers seems to have done the job. This administration, for better or worse, seems to try harder than any before to veer away from bringing race into the discussion and tries to stay on topic. I’ve watched, read, watched, read this non-stop attack from the Right. I even read a post where someone brought up the “Black Panthers” instead of correctly identifying the “New Black Panther Party” . . . .which actually is nothing more than a handful of whackos that NO ONE would know about nor care about if it had not been for Fox News making them out to be some major Black group. It is really hard to believe the folks that watch that show don’t understand what they are being fed . . . .but also pretty easy to believe many of those that watch that show LOVE what they are being fed.

Scout

July 24th, 2010
1:19 am

JMS:

…………… and you forgot she might not have a job.

Scout

July 24th, 2010
1:21 am

Once “Recent” Reader :

You know what I think? I think you went to sleep and the “body snatchers” got you !

Once "Recent" Reader

July 24th, 2010
1:25 am

Does anyone know if Glenn Beck apologized for saying Van Jones was a convicted Felon and spent 6 months in jail . . . .both Not True. Does anyone know if Hannity et al apologized to the Acorn guy in CA that got fired as he listened and asked questions to the “alleged pimp/prostitute” about their plan to bring in underage illegals for brothel . . and was lambasted on Fox News for helping them . . ..when in fact he called cops immediately after? They never brought that up later. Now I get to see them backtrack from their vicious attack on Sherrod on Monday and now asking questions like “did the Admin act to fast”. Crazy, crazy, crazy . . . .. but they are real good at twisting anything – even them making fools of themselves – to attack the Obama admin. No conscience there.

MikeB

July 24th, 2010
1:26 am

Back in 93 When I first arrived in Atlanta I went to a party with a college buddy of mine who is African American. The majority of the attendee’s were also…….. I am White.

While at this party another party goer thought he was going to make a name for himself at my expense by bringing up the concepts of affirmative action and race……… A small crowd gathered round to witness what they thought was gonna be a white guy getting a verbal beatdown at the hands of a stylish charismatic young proud black man……..

What they got was a lesson they should have learned long before coming to this party….. :Never judge a book by its cover”. You see my grandparents escaped genocide at the turn of the century from Armenia by way of Syria, Lebanon, France and Cuba…… They landed on this continent with just the shirts on their backs……. Nobody gave them a govt. program to get started with….. They just came and worked their azz’s off to have the hope of a future. They wound up owning a very successful business on one side of my family, while my grandfather on the other worked for an industrial company for close to 40 yrs, and retired with the gratitude of his company and honor of being trusted/valued employee.

So you can see that while I am White, I and my family owe black people in this country nothing other than if they are qualified for a position I am hiring for, then they get a shot at it just like everyone else. For this young man to tell me I owe him and people like him reperations without first investigating my background, reminds me of the Sherrod fiasco from this week, and how most are too lazy to do proper due dillegence.

This is the example that is set for them in D.C. by the farce we know as President Obama…. Sherrod case no DD, BP…Too lazy to really investigate….Not closing Gitmo as promised….No transparency in govt. as promised… This is not how forward progress for all citizens happens. I don’t car that he is mixed race… I do care that he got elected with many more unkept campaign promises than any President in memory. I do care that though he has never worked a real job in the private sector, with his lack of working experience he thinks taking money I earn and buying votes with it in the form of programs for other people is a better use of that money than what I who earned it, would use it for……. And never mind that for all his inexperience and failures, he has way to much ego for the mistake he has made. These are the things that should be focused on….The color of skin is not a failing…….. Unkept promises, redistribution of $ for votes, Chicago thugg politics, dishonor to the office, traditions and protocol that all POTUS’s have before have been a steward of, our naive foreign policy….. Those are things to focus on,

This is why this country is so screwed up today….. Everyone covets what the other has, but nobody really wants to roll their sleaves up and get after it. They just want a program from the government to make everything ok, and they will vote for whoever promises them this pile of dung.

I am proud to say that my grandparents who endured similar discrimination upon arrival in America never looked for a handout. They learned English abided by the rule of law that existed and contributed to society by hiring employee’s supporting their communities and churches, and paying there fair share of taxes along the way.

I humbly suggest that this is the example people should look to emmulate, but if folks did the govt would not be the influence in peoples lives that it is trying to be. And that is a shame that will continue as long as the power elite in D.C. keep accumulating power. Vote em out… Get to work…. Keep the money you sweat for…. That will fix much in this country.

Once "Recent" Reader

July 24th, 2010
1:31 am

Hey there Scout . . . .been reading the back and forths with you and others. I know it’s an easy target for non-conservatives . …but I do like mentioning the things I hear on Fox. Listen, I really actually liked watching them during the Bush administration . . . .although they were still biased towards Republicans . . .I did think they were a bit more fair and balanced. But even you have to see how much that has changed. It is nothing more than a channel that is so anti-Pres. Obama that they’ll seem to stop at no Low to get at him. Come on – they make it seem like the “Lame Stream Media” doesn’t want to tell the public the True Stories . …..well that New Black Panther Party poll thing really says a lot about them. They showed the same clip of those two guys standing out there over and over for days. This group got more press than they ever could have imagined. There are so many wing-nut groups out there that would love the attention. New Black Panthers were and still are nothing – about two dozen folks or so . . .at least before all the Fox press. Now they are the new Boogey Man. Hilarious.

Once "Recent" Reader

July 24th, 2010
1:44 am

MikeB . . . .nice post. But don’t get too confused by all the hostility and screaming that has been going on the past few years. You might want to take a look at what Presidents raised the deficit the most over the past 30 years or so. President Obama has done NOTHING to increase Equal Opportunity – or Affirmative Action. No matter what it may sound like in all the noise . . . . there have far and away been more tax cuts then less. We can disagree with the current deficit . . . . . but notice folks were a lot quieter when huge deficits were being created by massive tax cuts that greatly benefited the top 2 % income wise, by a War that was SO unneccessary and reasons for it so totally manufactured. By bills such as prescription drugs that were NOT payed for. Yes, there is spending going on now – but I still clearly remember 2007/2008 and the initial bailouts that folks were happy to see as they were quaking in their pants watching the 401Ks dwindle. I hear just as many folks say the Health Care Bill will result in large savings as I do those who normally bash the President say it will bring up costs and hurt Companies. All I know is the Companies . .mine included . . . .are all doing very well profit wise right now. They are also sitting on loads of cash. When they decide to unleash it . . .. .if they do . . .things will change pretty quickly.

Bill Clinton

July 24th, 2010
2:07 am

Cynthia Tucker’s intelligence is a myth. Racist.

Once "Recent" Reader

July 24th, 2010
2:37 am

Ex Pres Clinton . . .. . .it seems the only real Myth these days is that there can be a truly fair and rational discussion about race relations. I’ve never seen such xenophobia . . . . ..of course I didn’t live in Germany from 1933 – 1945 either.

A CONSERVATIVE

July 24th, 2010
4:54 am

Due to political correctness on the left…which you take advantage of….conservatives are assumed to be racist…w/o any evidence…whatsoever..The left uses RACISM as a weapon of choice..

A CONSERVATIVE

July 24th, 2010
4:57 am

.. Cynthia Tucker is a myth…. SHE IS NOT A REAL PERSON nobody can be as far left radical as she is made to appear…..

rickeybobby

July 24th, 2010
5:26 am

Being a middle-aged white guy who is honest enough to admit to have benefited from “white privilege” in the past, I must say that times really have changed. Later in my life I am finding that in these difficult economic times, I really don’t see anyone receiving many priviledges! In my humble opinion, this time right now is our true test as Americans, and after serving 23 years in the military, I assure you we will not stand unless we are united!

Lil' Barry Bailout

July 24th, 2010
5:46 am

More Democrat fascism on display:

CNN Anchors Fawn Over Shirley Sherrod, Ask If She Wants Breitbart’s Site Shut Down

Friday, July 23, 2010

It wasn’t exactly a media-friendly question. CNN co-anchor Kiran Chetry asked Shirley Sherrod on Thursday’s “American Morning” if she wanted another news outlet to be shut down entirely – Andrew Breitbart’s website, to be exact. “Would you like [Breitbart's] site to be shut down?” Chetry asked Sherrod. Sherrod answered yes, “that would be a great thing.”

Sick of your babble

July 24th, 2010
6:00 am

Liberal policy of entitlements and affirmative action have done more harm to blacks than anything short of slavery itself. We now have generations of people who are willing and happy to let the government give them what they need. White entitlement… We now have government sanctioned Black Entitlement but you will not acknowledge that will you Cynthia? I for one am sick of you and other quasi black intellectuals spewing your propaganda adnauseum.If you want something work for it and quit bellyaching because Whitey did not give it to you!

Reality Bites

July 24th, 2010
6:00 am

Ms Tucker, as a native Atlantan, i will say that what you have done to the paper here is a disgrace. subscription rates are declining yearly in no small part due to your columns. If cox would get a handle on things and realise that most people that read, (notice I said read), are suburbanites who dont go downtown for fear of being mugged, they would fire you and put a center-right editor in your place. I think you know this as well. Have a blessed day.

jhc

July 24th, 2010
6:05 am

Liberals will say that, “We are all in it together.” We are not. If we were, EVERYONE would pay taxes. When is the “poor” going to do their part? When are blacks going to do theirs?

T-Town

July 24th, 2010
6:47 am

Gee, I missed the pity party.

Angry white male

July 24th, 2010
6:55 am

Blacks need to stop blaming this generation of white males for slavery. If you find your lives here as ‘African Americans’ so repugnant and disadvantaged, head on back to whichever land you call home(Obama needs to go first). I would never refer to myself as a ‘German American’. I’m simply proud to be an AMERICAN!