Despite its racial profiling, Americans support Arizona law

Never mind the racial profiling. Never mind the fact that the new Arizona law aimed at illegal immigrants  accomplishes little except harassment of the Spanish-speaking. Never mind the fact that Arizona is taking a big hit on tourism dollars because of it. Another poll shows most Americans think it’s a fine idea.

That includes nearly half of Democrats. From McClatchey:

A strong majority of Americans support Arizona’s controversial new immigration law and would back similar laws in their own states, a new McClatchy-Ipsos poll found.

Sixty-one percent of Americans — and 64 percent of registered voters — said they favored the law in a survey of 1,016 adults conducted May 6-9.

Strikingly, nearly half of Democrats like the law, under which local law enforcement officers are tasked with verifying people’s immigration status if they suspect them of being in the country illegally. While the Democratic Party generally is regarded as more sympathetic to illegal immigrants’ plights, 46 percent of Democrats said they favored the law for Arizona and 49 percent said they’d favor the law’s passage in their own states.

More than 8 in 10 Republicans and 54 percent of independents favor the law.

In addition, about 69 percent of Americans said they wouldn’t mind if police officers stopped them to ask for proof of their citizenship or legal rights to be in the country; about 29 percent would mind, considering it a violation of their rights; and about 3 percent were unsure.

A separate Pew Research Center poll on the Arizona law released Wednesday found similar sentiments.

The oddest thing about all the support for the law is that, while it supposedly stems from outrage over crimes committed by illegal immigrants, crime is down in Arizona:

But while the situation in Arizona is dire in some respects, it’s actually improving, not getting worse. For example, the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics notes that violent crimes in the state fell from 512 per 100,000 people in 2005 to 447 per 100,000 people in 2008, the last year data was compiled.

And, despite the clamor about dangerous immigrants, crime rates are lowest in states with the highest immigration growth rates — such as Arizona. Crime in the 19 states with the highest immigrant populations dropped by 13.6 percent from 1994 to 2004, compared to 7.1 percent for the other 32 states.

Finally, although the U.S. illegal immigrant population doubled to about 12 million from 1994 to 2004, the violent crime rate nationwide declined by 35.1 percent while the property crime rate fell by 25 percent. So, more illegal immigrants does not equate to more crime.

Critics accuse the federal government of doing nothing about illegal immigration. But there are more Border Patrol officers now on duty than ever before, and heightened enforcement has been a significant factor in reducing the number of illegal immigrants entering the country.

The law is also going to make the economy in Arizon worse. Tourism has taken a hit:

Since the state passed the nation’s toughest immigration law three weeks ago, its meeting and events business has fallen drastically.

Hispanic civil rights groups are boycotting Arizona and urging others to do the same. Officials at the National Council of La Raza, one of the groups driving the boycott, had privately asked the RNC not to meet in Phoenix.

The city risks losing as much as $90 million in hotel and convention business over the next five years because of the controversy, according to city estimates released Wednesday. The state’s hotel and lodging association has counted 23 canceled meetings for a loss of between $6 and $10 million. On Wednesday, Los Angeles became the largest city to join the boycott.

More than anything else, the poll shows how emotional an issue immigration is in this country — and the reason few politicians have any stomach for dealing with it.

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ken

May 13th, 2010
11:48 am

I will type the word for you. ILLEGAL

Craig - The real Criag

May 13th, 2010
11:49 am

DemBrooks – AMEN sister tell CT how it is! Ummm Hummm “finger snap”

lovelyliz

May 13th, 2010
11:49 am

Why isn’t Arizona profiling those who hire illegals? I lived in the state for several years. They know who these business people are, but since they are the ones who right big fat campaign-funding checks, that might be unncomfortable.

PearlJam

May 13th, 2010
11:50 am

Americans need to stop giving jobs to illegals, period. We don’t even need a new immigration policy, we all need to step up and stop hiring any undocumented employee. It’s the law now that all employees must be documented.

As far as the girl at KSU – send her back, it not our fault her parents were hear illegal, it her parents fault, she should blame any punishment on her parents.

Mikeee

May 13th, 2010
11:50 am

Spew all your junk to the farmers family that was murdered & those innocent AMERICANS in AZ being threatened by this violence. How about this ……. ” It’s the LAW ! ” Idiot …….

skeeter

May 13th, 2010
11:50 am

Cynthia Tucker is crazy; she is a typical media type – spinning every story to suit her screwy view of the world. She is annoying as hell.

Realist

May 13th, 2010
11:51 am

You guys are misinterpreting the Liberal position on this. Liberals are not for illegal immigration.
However, I do not want to give cops the power to subjectively pull someone off of the street and ask them to prove citizenship. This is setting up a system for harassment. Yes, you will catch plenty of illegals this way, but you will also have citizen rounded up in the process that do not have I.D. available for whatever reason. This is NOT the American way!!! Put yourself in a hispanic American’s shoes. You were born in Az. You served your country proudly in Iraq. You come home, and contribute to society. You are walking down the street and sheriff Buford T. pulls you over and demands ID. You do not have it for whatever reason, Now you are being taken to jail.

Or, you do have it and this is a recurring harassment you are forced to endure after proudly defending your country.

How is this okay?

HDB

May 13th, 2010
11:52 am

Libertarian May 13th, 2010
11:26 am
“@HDB if you get profiled you get a ticket, big deal.”
Excuse me, I was always taught there is a PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE…I am innocent until PROVEN guilty…but does that only apply to Caucasians?? If you are a person of color, you are GUILTY and must PROVE your innocence!! That’s not the nation I swore to defend!!

“Getting into a lesser law school can negatively affect the rest of your life. So in 188 years can we stop Affirmative Action? At what point would you say your race has “caught up” from my races supposed “head start”? ”

Getting into a lesser school can affect a person’s life? What about hard work, individual pride??? There are those who have propsered though they did NOT attend Harvard, Yale…..Are you denying what conservatives have been preaching to the masses??

I thought perhaps a black president might be that point…guess not. You’re a hypocrite just like Cynthia. Making a decision based on race is ok in some instances but not others. How can you live with your hypocrisy? How can you logically say that affirmative action is fair?

1) Affirmative Action only grants ACCESS to the institutions that have been previously denied to people of color; the primary beneficiaries of AA programs have been WHITE WOMEN!!!! Was it fair for them to be kept out of the workplace? Was it fair for them not to be promoted? Is it not a conservative axiom that the market place makes economic decisions…and if a segment of the marketplace is denied BY LAW, that the law musy change to address that market?? THAT’S ALL Affirmative Action has done…..but too many blame AA for what’s happening…..all it ever did was open pathways that have been previously denied!! In that aspect, YES, it’s fair!!

2) When should it stop?? Answer: when race is NO LONGER an issue in this country!! When being the FIRST is no longer the situation!!! The problem is — race is an issue….has always BEEN an issue….an in our current lifetimes…will ALWAYS BE an issue!!

It’s not hypocritical to note what is going on…it IS hypocritical to DENY what’s going on!!

Ragnar Danneskjöld May 13th, 2010
11:29 am
Dear Dunwoody Mike @ 11:04, I respectfully think you err: “And this is why matters of civil rights can not be left to a public vote. Just imagine if the southern States voted on civil rights in the 1950’s.” I remember the 1960s vividly, and I am comfortable the integration of Alabama football and Kentucky basketball were both unrelated to Congressional statutes. Black folks proved themselves worthy in “the market,” here, on the gridiron and on the hardwood.

Ragnar – it was a COMBINATION of things: 1) Intergration under FEDERAL ORDERS…and the National Guard that alllowed black students to enter the University of Alabama…and when Bear Bryant invited John McKay’s Southern Cal team to play them in Tuscaloosa….and Sam Cunningham ran THROUGH the Alabama defense did the Southeastern Conference begin to integrate!! It was Texas Western’s beating Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament that made Kentucky open up…..remember the FOOTBALL team integrated first…..and Tom Payne was Adoplph Rupp’s first black basketbakk signee….and Tubby Smith was Kentucky’s first black coacj…and HE won the NCAA title in his FIRST year!!

I remember the problems that Hamilton Holmes and Charlayne Hunter (Gault) had when they integrated UGA….it took a LOT for them to be accepted as alumni……

Kamchak

May 13th, 2010
11:53 am

Cynthia Tucker is crazy; she is a typical media type – spinning every story to suit her screwy view of the world. She is annoying as hell.

Don’t let the door hit you in the @ss on your way out.

Law Abiding Citizen

May 13th, 2010
11:53 am

“Junkies always blame their pusher.”

… posts the law-breaking sympathizer :)

Dan

May 13th, 2010
11:55 am

Realist this law does not allow police to pull people of the street randomly, it simply allows them to ask for identification after they have been stopped for something else and they have reason to believe they may be illegal. Essentially it extends the INS jusrisdiction and policies to local law. It is extremely difficult to form a cogent objection to his policy

Bryan

May 13th, 2010
11:56 am

LOVELYLIZ,

You say illegals with a SSN pay payroll taxes. It has been a long time since I got my SSN, but don’t you need to provide proof of citizenship, maybe even a birth certificate? If an illegal has a fake SSN where does the money go they are supposedly paying? What about all the day labor or people paid off the books? What is their contribution to the American economy?

Law Abiding Citizen

May 13th, 2010
11:56 am

@ Realist “Profile” and “harrass” me all you want, I have done nothing wrong. :)

atlshirt.com

May 13th, 2010
11:56 am

Realist

May 13th, 2010
11:51 am

Now do you believe us when we say that America is Turning into a Communist Country ??? DEMS AND REPUBS AT WORK… They want to CONTROL US ALL !!!! IT IS PAST TIME FOR US ALL TO UNITE AND RUN OUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF THIS COUNTRY AND ESTABLISH A NEW ONE!!!!

Mike

May 13th, 2010
11:57 am

The State of Georgia funds the following for education per year per child:
$6,328 per ESOL child (non-English speaking)no matter the grade.

For English speaking students:
$3,800 per Elementary child (average taken more is spend for K-3)
$3,100 per Middle School child
$2,700 per High School child

The American people should be sick and tired of spending tax dollars for those who are here illegally. I support Arizona and hope the law spreads to many other states if our federal government isn’t going to act.

Meme

May 13th, 2010
11:57 am

Cynthia, I think you might be one of the few people who is surprised that so many United States citizens support this measure. I don’t say Americans because anyone who lives on either the North or South American continent is an American.

Big D

May 13th, 2010
11:59 am

kamchuck, your to stupid to debate with…if first requires intelligence and some form of experience in the area of conversation and you don’t have either. I have some great MEXICAN employees ( along with other nationalities) that have come here the legal route and they don’t want this crap you want either. Statement stands just get the hell out of here if you don’t want to obey the laws.

Realist

May 13th, 2010
12:00 pm

Dan, you are wrong. It does give the police the power to stop someone walking down the street and force them to prove they are legal.

kimmer

May 13th, 2010
12:01 pm

Bewildering? Why is it bewildering that most American’s support and effort to do something about MILLIONS of criminals pouring into our country unchecked.

What is bewildering is those who don’t support it. Especially the Hispanics that did it the right way. Think about how it makes you feel when you wait patiently in a long line to get on a ride when you see someone jump the ropes and go right in.

atlshirt.com

May 13th, 2010
12:01 pm

Realist

May 13th, 2010
12:00 pm
Dan, you are wrong. It does give the police the power to stop someone walking down the street and force them to prove they are legal

Kind of like saying “Show me your Papers” Reminds me of Nazi Germany…. HEIL OBAMA !!!

mel

May 13th, 2010
12:01 pm

Law Abiding Citizen – I suppose you have never broken any law? Never gone over the speed limit? Never cut class once?
If only we could all be as perfect as you.

GoldenDawg

May 13th, 2010
12:01 pm

I know when I have been in Mexico I have to have my proof on me at all times. What makes this law any different from what me or anybody else has to do when they are pulled over? We must show our drivers license, is that not proof of citizenship?

DD

May 13th, 2010
12:02 pm

Never mind the fact that even the reporter NEVER read the law and doesnt know what is actually n there. Most Americans are FED up with Illegals and Obama and Reid and Pelosi Doing nothing. Citizens are dying at the hand off these illegal aliens. Unsocumented is just the progressives nomenclature to change public opinion. Sorry the straw has now been broken. The pushback has arrived. If you want another American Revolution then keep up the anti-USA pro-illegal, pro-ACLU, Pro-La raza support. The mass media is the worst stoker and provider of false information. Read the bill.

HDB

May 13th, 2010
12:02 pm

Contractor May 13th, 2010
11:28 am

“HBD,

Keep your slavery BS to yourself. I don’t feel sorry for you in the slightest bit. How about you grow up and quit living in the 60’s. 188 year head start? So it seems you deserve to be given 188 times more preferential treatment than white people?”
No…I desire to be treated as an AMERICAN citizen….but that didn’t happen until 1964!! You tell me to grow up and quit living in the 60s; when American QUITS using race as a basis to consistently DENY people their rights, then I’ll quit screaming about it!! The problem that you refuse to admit is that white people HAVE SYSTEMIC preferential treatment!!

“Diversification is a ploy set forth by affirmative action to allow the less smarter people of color have their chance over a more deserving white person. ”

That’s the TYPICAL response from those who don’t know or understand the law as it was written. Affirmative Action states that people of color are granted ACCESS…but must be judged on a similar standard!! The question is that when the rules of the game are constantly changed by those in power, how can someone be allowed to play??? Don’t blame the person who’s trying to succeed; blame the person who CHANGED THE RULES!! Like the saying: Don’t hate the PLAYER, HATE THE GAME!!

“And I am very tired of reading about you getting pulled over and profiled, so give it a rest. I have a feeling you won’t shut up until you have ownership of the entire white population”

No…don’t want to own you….can’t afford it!! When YOU experience the denial of the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE…THEN you’ll understand!!

Craig - The real Criag

May 13th, 2010
12:03 pm

Realist – You’re an idiot. Learn to read the law doe snot allow police to do that. Another spin from the media you blindly have faith in. Go back to the Huffinton Post.

Big D

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

HDB, the laws apply to CITIZENS…

Dave-z

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

I don’t know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don’t blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America , as it is a truly wonderful place.

But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I don’t care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons.

I don’t need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don’t have any-thing against Mexicans! I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don’t believe it try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get. What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it’s tanta-mount to saying, “I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

It’s an “in your face” action and speaking just for me, I don’t like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn’t be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lily livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again? And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won’t mean anything anyway Besides, what good is another law going to do when you won’t enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls, guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain’t paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want some thing done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can’t happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grand-children will inherit. But I guess that doesn’t matter as long as you get re-elected. Shame on you. One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you

And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the United States of America because they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to face reality.

And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have 12 million illegal in this country and turn around and say, “Oh it’s ok, ya’ll can stay here if you’ll just allow us to slap your wrist.”

And I know that some of you who read this column are saying “Well what’s wrong with that?” I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far as we know. We don’t know who they are, where they are or what they’re up to and the way the Congress is going we’re not going to.

Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well? If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan? I think not.

All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have crossed the border just to try to better their life.
They don’t show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did. They don’t tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican illegal some fat cat hired to pick his crop.

I want to make two predictions.

No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre.

No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind ofweapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.

I don’t know about you but I would love to see just one major politician stand up and say, “I don’t care who I make mad and I don’t care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I’m going to lead the fight to get it straightened out.” I don’t blame anybody for wanting to come to America , but if you don’t respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others? And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and stripes Please get that other one out of my face.

God Bless America

Aquagirl

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

“… posts the law-breaking sympathizer”

I’m sorry, Law (snicker) Abiding, you seem to have mistaken me for one of those Republican Saxby Chambliss supporters.

mel

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

kimmer – it is bewildering that so many people are rushing to give up their freedoms given to them under the bill of rights! It is bewildering that so many people that favor this law can’t see it for it is – a political move by the right. It is bewildering that people aren’t screaming for real action that will actually make a difference with the illegal immigration debacle – and that is going after those that employ them.

You Asked

May 13th, 2010
12:05 pm

@ Aquagirl –

Sorry for the non-response about Meth addiction. I was attending to real world stuff…

PBS Frontline did some research in a 2006 documentary that showed when the supplies were cut off to Meth labs the purity went down and the price went up. This reduced addiction rates as well as the seriousness of the addiction. Sadly when looking for a link to the study I saw the Frontline update that said the purity is as high as its ever been and interdiction efforts only had a temporary effect on the supply which ended when the efforts were over.

Realist

May 13th, 2010
12:05 pm

Hey DD, you can blame the current administration all you want but your beloved BUSH did nothing to stop illegal immigration. He catered to them to win the hispanic vote in Texas!

HDB

May 13th, 2010
12:05 pm

GoldenDawg

May 13th, 2010
12:01 pm
I know when I have been in Mexico I have to have my proof on me at all times. What makes this law any different from what me or anybody else has to do when they are pulled over? We must show our drivers license, is that not proof of citizenship?

NOT IN ARIZONA!!! As the current state of the law is written, only an ARIZONA drivers’ license is proof of citizenship in Arizona. If you are a visitor to the state from another state, you must have proof of citizenship…..passport, birth certificate……

W Bingham

May 13th, 2010
12:08 pm

I don’t get it, all Arizona is doing is what the federal government will not do ENFORCING THE LAW! what the hell is wrong with people? what part of illegal do they not understand? its way over due that somebody do something. If we don’t get control of our borders we are going to become a third world nation. Democrat’s or Republicans both seem not to care all they want is another vote meanwhile the country is going down the drain. All the illeagles want is a free ride. They need to fix their own countries and stay their. I have more than one fore father that fought in the American revolution, I have served my country as my father did, citizenship should not be free. We see what letting all these people into this country has gotten us recently with the time square event and many others not mentioned by the press. Real Americans WAKE UP!

Craig - The real Criag

May 13th, 2010
12:09 pm

HDB -
That is actually false, because I do not need anything outside of my VALID state license to enter and travel through AZ. Again if you are able to provide a Valid state issued ID and corresponding SSN or Visa number then you are free to do whatever you want. Personally I have memorized my SSN because of stupid comcast always screwing things up and asking for it when I call, not a hard thing to do carry an ID and know you SSN.

Oxymoron

May 13th, 2010
12:09 pm

Cynthia, you are a hypocrite. You committed racial profiling when you adopted your child – couldn’t just pick the one the needed the most love, but had to pick the one that had the same skin color like you.

HDB

May 13th, 2010
12:10 pm

Big D May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm
HDB, the laws apply to CITIZENS…

No, the LAW applies to ALL people!! If I’m in Europe and break the laws there, I’m judged as a law-breaker!! I’m not racially profiled, followed as if I’m SUSPECTED of being illegal…..I have the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE!! THAT’S what people are giving up….the Constitutional RIGHT of the PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE!! Are you publically stating that a person of color is automatically GUILTY…and must PROOVE their innocence?? Is THAT the American way?? (In too many cases, it IS!!!)

You Asked

May 13th, 2010
12:10 pm

The Arizona law does not give anyone power to demand someone show papers when walking down the street. It never did have that power. In fact it is more restrictive than Federal laws in that regard. I think it was a terrible PR move however and doesn’t do much to protect the border over what enforcing the current law would do.

Auburn Fan

May 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

Rex – I forgot about his nose, sure that is it. He bows to foreign dictators and looks down his nose at us.

Craig - The real Criag

May 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

See i have been in trouble before and pulled over, and you know what, every time i have been detained I have had to provide my DL and SSN because it verifies who I am. Kinda of important when running a background check you know?

Auburn Fan

May 13th, 2010
12:12 pm

Oxymoron – did not know that. How do you get your information? She should not be racially profiling those babies.

Kamchak

May 13th, 2010
12:12 pm

kamchuck[sic], your[sic] to[sic] stupid to debate with…

Three typos in seven words and you call me stupid? Can’t make this stuff up.

Oh, and by-the-way—where have I ever said that I was against this law?

You Asked

May 13th, 2010
12:13 pm

CT Congratulations you blog has achieved true diversity. There are racist idiots of all ethnicities posting today. :-(

HDB

May 13th, 2010
12:13 pm

Craig – The real Criag May 13th, 2010
12:09 pm

No, Craig…you’re mistaken!! You can have a valid driver’s license from another state to drive, enter, and leave…..but as the law is WRITTEN, only an ARIZONA driver’s license is PROOF of citizenship in ARIZONA!! If you are asked for proof….the CURRENT proof of American CITIZENSHIP defaults to having a PASSPORT!!

Craig - The real Criag

May 13th, 2010
12:13 pm

HBD -
Again you are wrong, in some European countries you are guilty until proven innocent, the same way it is in MEXICO! Another reason how the US separates itself form other countries.

Javier

May 13th, 2010
12:14 pm

As a half Mexican who’s father’s family came here Legally (they currently live in AZ as well), I am 110% behind this law. The United States is at risk more than any other nation in the world when it comes to illegal immigration. It’s not just about labor, it is also safety and security.

Shame on all of the liberal cities trying to punish a state for making it’s own laws to protect it’s citizens.

LA, SF etc, I boycott you!

law101

May 13th, 2010
12:14 pm

The writer of this article seems to want everyone to forget and ignore the fact that EVERY illegal immigrant in this country is committing a crime. Doesn’t anyone understand, that is what the word illegal means?

Craig - The real Criag

May 13th, 2010
12:15 pm

Thats funny because my best friend who is a professor at ASU is an Inidana resident and he did not have to provide a passport last week when he got a speeding ticket, maybe you should know people in AZ before you spout off on things you have no idea about.

Katherine

May 13th, 2010
12:15 pm

It is not racial profiling….read the actual law before you write an article about it.. When I have been pulled over I have to show my license, proof of insurance and registration to the police officer. How is this any different? I for one am sick of ILLEGALS thinking they have the same protections as actual citizens. If they want those protections respect our laws and our borders and come here legally.

Paulo977

May 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

Worthington
May13th
8:41am
re:”set up a Ellis Island type post ……….to welcome Latinos…etc”
Wonderful idea . Unfortunately those long ago immigrants were sort of different , weren’t they? I mean they felt they had a right to the ‘goodies’ in a land that was captured by similar people and then once they got their hands on the the ‘goodies’also through exploiting the labor of African slaves , by the way, they set up structures to prevent ‘certain’ human beings from having access to the ‘goodies’. I am afraid all this talk about illegals causing all the problems we are now facing is sheer nonsense and these polls prove we are scared that we will be overrun by non white human beings ..That is what they mean by “We want our country back”

Del

May 13th, 2010
12:17 pm

Cynthia, if you feel that American opinion isn’t to your liking, Hugo Chavez, I’m sure could find a place for you. Maybe you could blog from there.