Despite its racial profiling, Americans support Arizona law

Never mind the racial profiling. Never mind the fact that the new Arizona law aimed at illegal immigrants  accomplishes little except harassment of the Spanish-speaking. Never mind the fact that Arizona is taking a big hit on tourism dollars because of it. Another poll shows most Americans think it’s a fine idea.

That includes nearly half of Democrats. From McClatchey:

A strong majority of Americans support Arizona’s controversial new immigration law and would back similar laws in their own states, a new McClatchy-Ipsos poll found.

Sixty-one percent of Americans — and 64 percent of registered voters — said they favored the law in a survey of 1,016 adults conducted May 6-9.

Strikingly, nearly half of Democrats like the law, under which local law enforcement officers are tasked with verifying people’s immigration status if they suspect them of being in the country illegally. While the Democratic Party generally is regarded as more sympathetic to illegal immigrants’ plights, 46 percent of Democrats said they favored the law for Arizona and 49 percent said they’d favor the law’s passage in their own states.

More than 8 in 10 Republicans and 54 percent of independents favor the law.

In addition, about 69 percent of Americans said they wouldn’t mind if police officers stopped them to ask for proof of their citizenship or legal rights to be in the country; about 29 percent would mind, considering it a violation of their rights; and about 3 percent were unsure.

A separate Pew Research Center poll on the Arizona law released Wednesday found similar sentiments.

The oddest thing about all the support for the law is that, while it supposedly stems from outrage over crimes committed by illegal immigrants, crime is down in Arizona:

But while the situation in Arizona is dire in some respects, it’s actually improving, not getting worse. For example, the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics notes that violent crimes in the state fell from 512 per 100,000 people in 2005 to 447 per 100,000 people in 2008, the last year data was compiled.

And, despite the clamor about dangerous immigrants, crime rates are lowest in states with the highest immigration growth rates — such as Arizona. Crime in the 19 states with the highest immigrant populations dropped by 13.6 percent from 1994 to 2004, compared to 7.1 percent for the other 32 states.

Finally, although the U.S. illegal immigrant population doubled to about 12 million from 1994 to 2004, the violent crime rate nationwide declined by 35.1 percent while the property crime rate fell by 25 percent. So, more illegal immigrants does not equate to more crime.

Critics accuse the federal government of doing nothing about illegal immigration. But there are more Border Patrol officers now on duty than ever before, and heightened enforcement has been a significant factor in reducing the number of illegal immigrants entering the country.

The law is also going to make the economy in Arizon worse. Tourism has taken a hit:

Since the state passed the nation’s toughest immigration law three weeks ago, its meeting and events business has fallen drastically.

Hispanic civil rights groups are boycotting Arizona and urging others to do the same. Officials at the National Council of La Raza, one of the groups driving the boycott, had privately asked the RNC not to meet in Phoenix.

The city risks losing as much as $90 million in hotel and convention business over the next five years because of the controversy, according to city estimates released Wednesday. The state’s hotel and lodging association has counted 23 canceled meetings for a loss of between $6 and $10 million. On Wednesday, Los Angeles became the largest city to join the boycott.

More than anything else, the poll shows how emotional an issue immigration is in this country — and the reason few politicians have any stomach for dealing with it.

662 comments Add your comment

Granny Godzilla

May 13th, 2010
9:10 am

Why did the GOP select Florida over Arizona for their next convention?

John

May 13th, 2010
9:11 am

Oh man! These new poll results don’t fit the media narrative.

Rex

May 13th, 2010
9:11 am

true Peadawg….your question is over her head I reckon…
kayaker 71 : thats too much like homework…..CT only uses emotion and race-baiting, not logic, common sense or homework

Drawing Black Lines

May 13th, 2010
9:11 am

Old White Man…this is a tired liberal talking point. Watch “Dirty Jobs” –No mexicans doing those jobs? Thats what I thought. Nice screen name

NY-Dave

May 13th, 2010
9:13 am

Ms. Tucker is correct when she said; “Never mind the racial profiling”, as over 90% of illegal aliens are from Mexico. Who are you going to check, non-Mexicans? Unfortunately, Ms. Tucker is wrong about crime. Arizona is the kidnapping capital of the US.

Most illegal aliens are nothing more than modern day slaves. How bold of people to support the illegal alien slave industry.

Shame on America, slavery ended when the 13th amendment was ratified in 1865.

So, who is the real racist, those who support slavery (illegal aliens) or those who are against it?
It’s time for the truth.

T-Town

May 13th, 2010
9:13 am

“Why did the GOP select Florida over Arizona for their next convention?”

For love and country, and it’s closer to Atlanta.

Rex

May 13th, 2010
9:14 am

Worthington: the Irish were not breaking any laws and they learned the language
they also did not commit crimes at a huge disproportional rate like the ones we have now who are slithering and slinking their way over the border
And there is nothing in history to suggest the Irish started kidnapping crime waves

You Asked

May 13th, 2010
9:14 am

@ Worthington “set up an Ellis Island” type system for Latino and Hispanic immigrants!?

Do you have any clue how many European immigrants were sent packing at Ellis Island simply because they looked like they lacked intelligence, or had an illness we didn’t want on our shores like TB, or didn’t have a trade where they could support themselves…?

If we set up an Ellis Island type system today the ACLU and every other human rights group would be screaming bloody murder. No thanks.

What we need to do is enforce the existing immirgration laws while making it easier for those with legitimate reasons to be here (study, harvesting crops, building houses, designing nuclear reactors…) to get work and study visas.

Illegal immigration is about human trafficking and often drug smuggling. We need to come down hard on the coyotes and drug smugglers along with those on our side of the border who enable it (employers who knowingly hire illegal labor and drug pushers/users).

Auburn Fan

May 13th, 2010
9:15 am

The rancher that was shot in Arizona would disagree that violent crime is down. Well his family anyway.

misplaced

May 13th, 2010
9:15 am

It really takes no time at all to understand the border between the US and Mexico, all you have to do is open your eyes and see what is happening on both sides. Very powerful corporations control that border because they reap huge benefits in the US and Mexico.
By allowing undocumented workers in and placed in a shadow economy the corps have what they have always wanted “wage control” On the other side of the border deep in Mexico they also have what they have always wanted a poor population that is paid next to nothing making the things we need and consume. When a company leaves the US and “Near Shores” it operations to lets say Monterrey Mexico the price of those products does not fall to reflect the change in labor prices but in some cases may increase. The fact remains that a job paying 10 to 17 bucks an hour has left the US is now done by some poor person in Mexico for 5 bucks a day.

student27

May 13th, 2010
9:16 am

So we’re blaming immigrants for taking jobs that Americans wouldn’t want whether the opportunity is there or not? If you want those low paying degrading jobs then go get them. If you think you’re above them then quit whining about immigrants taking them. Somebody has to do them after all.

Kamchak

May 13th, 2010
9:16 am

Why did the GOP select Florida over Arizona for their next convention?

More bondage themed lesbian sex clubs?

Ponder

May 13th, 2010
9:17 am

Illegal is Illegal!! Others have somehow been able to comply with our immigration laws and process — end of discussion!!!

Worthington

May 13th, 2010
9:17 am

Rex, ever heard of the Irish mafia?

Joel

May 13th, 2010
9:18 am

I think it is easy to see from the blogs that no law is hurting everyone- including illegals who don’t appear to be held in high regard. Didn’t we get healthcare “reform” without enough votes? Didn’t top politicians risk their jobs for healthcare reform- or did they receive massive payoffs and promises which the illegals can’t afford and don’t have access?

Old white man- give me 5 jobs and I will fill them with good solid workers- the current generation is ready to work.

Drawing Black Lines

May 13th, 2010
9:20 am

Worthington—every country has been a nation of immigrants at some point….What’s your point? Try to spout that sappy rhetoric next time you go to China.

Aquagirl

May 13th, 2010
9:20 am

“We need to come down hard on the coyotes and drug smugglers along with those on our side of the border who enable it (employers who knowingly hire illegal labor and drug pushers/users).”

Yeah, that whole War on Drugs is going so well! Let’s continue this smashing success!

I think CT isn’t responding because y’all have about three shared brain cells.

student27

May 13th, 2010
9:20 am

And thats meant for PEADAWG and REX.

Granny Godzilla

May 13th, 2010
9:20 am

Kamchak

That may not be too far from the truth. Tampa is famous for it’s strip clubs.

Sick&Tired

May 13th, 2010
9:20 am

Draw the Black Line – I don’t spend my nights or days worrying about conservatives or anyone who thinks differently from myself. I just sit back and watch it all play out, because I can already see how it’s going to end.

You just keep drawing those black lines. :)

You Asked

May 13th, 2010
9:21 am

Cynthia – I think the reason most Americans think it’s a fine idea is their frustration with the ongoing situation with the crime associated with illegal immigration. Most often the undocomented immigrants are the victims of that crime. Even if the Arizona law is flawed (and it is being demonized by the left – its not as draconian as presented, resonable cause has to be shown by law enforcement) it is at least doing something. We have had administration after administration avoid doing something significant to protect people on both sides of the border. Meanwhile the drug lords, human traffickers and slave shop owners get away with murder.

There is a lot of frustration on the part of Americans regardless of political or ethnic background.

Richard

May 13th, 2010
9:21 am

The sad thing is that it’s so easy to solve the illegal immigration problem:

Step 1: Build a fence.

Step 2: Make it a felony to hire an illegal immigrant.

Step 3: Allow foreigners to apply for work visas (similar to student visas).

fcal25

May 13th, 2010
9:23 am

Get off the so-called racial profiling because “everyone” profiles others based on their appearance and culture.It’s a part of the evolutionary process of survial.

student27

May 13th, 2010
9:24 am

I understand that illegal mis illegal but thats not the end of discussion. Our constitutional rights are at stake because of this.

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:24 am

There are plenty of bums in Woodruff park that “want to work” but just cant seem to find a job. Said bums could be used to replace the illegals in these “low paying” jobs.

We could bus them out to the fields or where ever needed, pay them the same as the illegals and allow them to use said pay for their food and lodging. The bums just need a hand-up, not an hand-out and this situation affords them said opportunity.

Im sure once the bus pulls up in Woodruff park and other bum infested areas there will be an ensuing riot as to which bums are allowed to board first vs those who didnt make the cut.

Two birds with one stone.

Worthington

May 13th, 2010
9:24 am

Free your mind and the rest will follow….

Peadawg

May 13th, 2010
9:25 am

tp://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/sheriff-wants-to-re-526173.html
“Sheriff wants to re-arrest undocumented KSU student”

Woohoo! Send her back to Mexico!

You Asked

May 13th, 2010
9:25 am

@ Aquagirl – I’m not sure I should even respond to the insult… but I know what I’m talking about. I have personally been involved in helping Mexican families in Cherokee County who were being packed families at a time into double wide trailers and charged incredibly high rent by those who smuggled them into this country. They were the real victims. The contractors who used their labor, the coyotes who smuggled them and the criminals who took their cash for substandard living conditions should all be in jail for what they did. Meanwhile the families were too afraid to speak to anyone for fear of being turned in to the police or INS by their own abusers.

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:26 am

Sick&Tired

May 13th, 2010
9:20 am

No doubt you dont have to think about it. Your hatred is automatic reaction.

Dave R.

May 13th, 2010
9:26 am

Since there is NO racial profiling in this law, there is literally nothing accurate in your column this morning, Cynthia.

Except for the support of Americans.

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:27 am

“Sheriff wants to re-arrest undocumented KSU student”

Lettuce hope he does and that right soon.

Prince, the artist formerly know as "the real ron mexico"

May 13th, 2010
9:27 am

As Robert Frost said, “Good fences make good neighbors”.

Joel

May 13th, 2010
9:28 am

CIS- only piece you are missing is spend (good use of taxpayer money) time to train the homeless and teach them job skills- often what people miss is that it is good to express sorrow for the less fortunate while you are downing your second glass of wine. Most folks want to work- some just don’t have access or know how.

Sick&Tired

May 13th, 2010
9:29 am

Bob

May 13th, 2010
8:58 am

Bob it is very obvious where your head is stuck. I only wish that the indians had developed immigration laws long before Columbus “relocated” to America. :)

Leon

May 13th, 2010
9:29 am

So, a few legal Americans have to prove they live here when they get a speeding ticket or have an non-functioning blinker. Who cares? Time to enforce our laws and if it inconveniences a few people… oh well. I would have no problem demonstrating that I am a citizen if the police stopped me for speeding.

Whacks Eloquent

May 13th, 2010
9:30 am

What Arizona passed – profiling, yes; racial profiling, no. Hispanics are considered a race. Look at your Obama Census form…White; Black, African Am., or Negro; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian Indian; Chinese; Filipino; Japanese; Korean; Vietnamese; Native Hawaiian; Guamanian or Chamorro; Samoan; Other Asian; Other Pacific Islander; some other race

Whoa! No Latinos! Say it ain’t so! No they are under a different section…”Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin?” This is separate from race – it has to do with cultural heritage. There are Hispanic blacks and non-Hispanic blacks, whites and non-Hispanic whites, etc. Hispanic is not a race! So let’s at least be technically correct, the new Arizona law is NOT racial profiling, it is just profiling! And I don’t have a problem with it! If authorities are looking for a 30-something white guy who still has hair, that fits me! And that’s profiling! Why the hell should I have a problem with that? Get over it, you want safety? Profiling offers enhanced safety! Now if profiling led to unlawful apprehension and holding of all suspects without further warrant, that would be a problem. But we are talking about traffic stops, a minor inconvenience. If you’ve got nothing to hide, you are fine. If a Mexican or any other immigrant is here legally, I’d imagine they are proud of that little green card, and probably do carry it with them at all times!

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:31 am

Well S&T being as you are here, in the US, perhaps for the sake of the poor unfortuante indians you should board the first cruise liner out of here. As it stands you are part of the problem.

Sick&Tired

May 13th, 2010
9:32 am

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:26 am

Only a hateful person would want the KSU student to be re-arrested. You should show some of that Christian love that is written in the bible. Or has the devil taken over your compassion for others.

student27

May 13th, 2010
9:33 am

Cynthia YOUR arrogance surpasses all of the illegals combined. As far as im concerned you were just lucky to be born in america. its because of people like you that other countries hates us. so give yourself a pat on the back. you’ve just won yourself the RUN YOUR MOUTH Award.

Sick&Tired

May 13th, 2010
9:33 am

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:31 am

What part of the problem am I, since you know so much?

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:34 am

Law is the law my friend. The KSU student should take initiative to become legal or guest. The ball is in her court not mine or the States or the Feds.

Were you able to reach Travelocity? Im sure they have bookings available.

Worthington

May 13th, 2010
9:34 am

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore…..Send there, the homeless,tempest-test to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.” I guess some of you would like to add and slam the door shut once my ancestors cross the threshhold…..

Bob

May 13th, 2010
9:36 am

Worthington, You want policy in America based on “your” god. I am surprised your post was not deleted. I wonder how many that read and agreed with your post think their is a line in the constitution with the words “separation of church and state” ? What do want next, a national day of prayer for illegals ?

Cynthia is Sexy!!

May 13th, 2010
9:36 am

Demonstrate your hateful attitude. You wish the indians had immigration standards during the previous Anglo-Saxon invasion of North America.

By remaining here as a “retro” illegal alien, with your heart bleeding all over the floor, you are part of the problem.

Bye bye and enjoy your trip.

PS…I’ve packed your hate in 3 suitcases for you…

Peadawg

May 13th, 2010
9:38 am

Sick&Tired, do you not know what the word, illegal, means?

Travis

May 13th, 2010
9:38 am

Cynthia Tucker is a moron for too many reasons to post.

Bob

May 13th, 2010
9:38 am

sick and tired, if you or I gave the police false info, would we get in any trouble ? I bet you use the term “equality for all” don’t you.

student27

May 13th, 2010
9:39 am

hey BOB. funny thing about your comment, it seems that back in the late 1700’s when americans didn’t lack moral fiber, this country was founded off of christian beliefs.

Rev Al Sharptongue

May 13th, 2010
9:40 am

If corporate America, which many of you cons support 100% would not hire these people where would they work?

I see pick up trucks in Gwinnett with old Bush stickers in the window picking up illegals at the home depot to help with their construction business. I drive down Howell Mill and see Spanish women pushing White babies down the street.
These same people vote republican, they only want the illegals they do not need to leave.

The youn lady at KSU is a prime example, one semester from graduating , plans for law school, and a member of campus organizations. She is a well rounded addition to America, but the bigots want to send her back because of the term illegal.

As a Blackman you do not have to say it for me to know what is racist.
It was racist for me to ride in the front of the bus or sit at a lunch counter previously.
I would have been breaking the law like Rosa Parks if I refused to move. And most of you right wingers would have said she broke the law and deserved to be in jail. and defended the injustice of the law.

Bigotry is Bigotry plain and simple you can mask it as law but we know how you people abuse laws for your racist benefit

Geoff Resnik

May 13th, 2010
9:40 am

Only Cynthia can make up crap like this. Of course we are for the new law in Arizona she ought to be thankful we do not have Mexico’s Law’s on immigration. Then again maybe we should treat illegal’s exactly like Mexico does.