Are Republicans serious about repeal of health care law?

UPDATE:

The health insurance industry has decided to end its practice of cancelling claims once a patient gets sick next month, well before the new health care law would have required it, the industry’s chief spokesman said Wednesday.

“While many health plans already abide by the standards outlined in the new law, our community is committed to implementing the new standards in May 2010 to ensure that individuals and families will have greater peace of mind when purchasing coverage on their own,” AHIP president and chief executive Karen Ignagni said in a letter to top House Democrats.

Out on the campaign trail, Republicans are still talking about repealing the new health care law. But, in reality, Congressional Republicans are not rushing to actually do it. Conservative blogger David Weigel notes:

Hours after the House passed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) made good on a promise and introduced a short bill that would repeal the whole thing. The goal, she explained, was to get every Republican to co-sponsor it.

About one month later, neither Bachmann’s bill nor companion bills in the House and Senate have won majority support from their peers. Only 52 House Republicans have co-sponsored Bachmann’s repeal bill, H.R. 4903, and only 62 House Republicans have co-sponsored Rep. Steve King’s (Iowa) repeal bill, H.R. 4972. Most of the same people have co-sponsored both. Only 20 Republican senators have co-sponsored Sen. Jim DeMint’s (S.C.) repeal bill, S. 3152. That worries some Republicans who want to run hard on repeal in November.

“What I run into,” King told me recently, “is that you ask Republicans to support 100 percent full repeal, but there are a number of them that aren’t committed to full repeal. They have an equivocation that they would leave a piece there, a piece there, a piece there. If Republicans cannot unanimously come together and support 100 percent repeal of Obamacare and then start to rebuild, then we will not win this victory, because we’ll be divided by the Democrats and fighting on Obama’s turf.”

Perhaps that’s because the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act actually improves health care in America. On Monday, former Rep. Sen. Bill Frist, a surgeon, said he likes the law:

Frist, a thoracic surgeon, told Time magazine back in October that if he were still in Congress, he would vote for the bill. And his support apparently hasn’t wavered. On Monday afternoon he said he would give an “A” grade to the provisions in the law aimed at expanding insurance to an additional 32 million people.

Cost, however, is another matter. While most Republicans would likely slap a failing grade on the cost aspect of the law, Frist said he’d rank it a “C.”

“I like the bill,” Frist said during a panel discussion with former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle at the American Hospital Association’s (AHA’s) annual meeting. “I think it’s got lots of positive stuff in it, other than the costs.”

72 comments Add your comment

mom3

April 29th, 2010
11:24 am

Seriously, where do I get a job like this? Where all you have to do is cut and paste somebody else’s work into an ‘new’ article?!?!?

Granny Godzilla

April 29th, 2010
11:25 am

Are Republicans serious about repeal of health care law?

Hell no.

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
11:27 am

Seriously, where do I get a job like this? Where all you have to do is cut and paste somebody else’s work into an ‘new’ article?!?!?

Seriously, when will I get a nickle for every time this sentiment is posted?

Dee keith

April 29th, 2010
11:29 am

The only thing conservatives/ignorant are concerned with is proving that their followers are undisputed MORONS.

Granny Godzilla

April 29th, 2010
11:31 am

mom 3

i understand certain right wing groups are still paying folks to post on blogs and write letters to editors…..i bet they are looking for help.

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
11:35 am

Granny Godzilla

Frank Luntz writes most, if not all of right wing shtick.

ctucker

April 29th, 2010
11:43 am

Kamchak, I want two cents of every nickel you collect for that!

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
11:45 am

Ms. Tucker

Deal!

Independent

April 29th, 2010
11:47 am

Well, I guess it’s unanimous then in CT’s mind, one Republican “likes the bill” therefore all Republicans should like the bill.

Granny, how did you obtain your understanding that right wing groups are paying folks to post on blogs and write letters to editors? Perhaps you heard it from Kenneth, Dan Rather’s old pal or your other usual source, Area 51.

JohnnyReb

April 29th, 2010
11:48 am

Repeal of the entire bill while sounding great to us righties would be extremely difficult. Even if Repubs win control of both house and senate, there is still the Barry veto. Unlikely are majorities sufficient to override the veto. More likely is the November election outcomes allowing modifications to the bill, cherry picking to keep what’s best, throwing out the bad, and adding other aspects. Then, there is no guarantee Obama would agree. Repubs will want the free loading and government control out (that’s bound to stir some progressive come backs). We may be stuck with the existing bill until Barry bids us farewell in 2012.

JKL2

April 29th, 2010
11:50 am

The beauty of the whole thing is that it doesn’t really kick in for a couple years. By the time we are all burried under taxes and real support shows up it will be “too late” to repeal this white elephant.

I just wish I could convince my wife to use government math to buy my new bike. “If we add $1T to the debt we will save $300b.”

HDB

April 29th, 2010
12:00 pm

A full repeal of the bill would make Republicans look more HEARTLESS than they already are! It’s evident that free market theories do not totally work when it pertains to health care…but adherence to Republican dogma is all they care about….insuring the wealthy are maintained, the middle class squeezed into poverty, and the poor expanded!!

TommyJack

April 29th, 2010
12:08 pm

CT: Healthcare? At what cost? We are teetering on financial ruin (see Greece & much of Europe).
The timing is bad. To believe that HC is deficit neutral is fantasy. You don’t REALLLY believe that do you? OR, do you believe it and just not care?

HDB

April 29th, 2010
12:28 pm

JKL2

April 29th, 2010
11:50 am
The beauty of the whole thing is that it doesn’t really kick in for a couple years. By the time we are all burried under taxes and real support shows up it will be “too late” to repeal this white elephant.

I just wish I could convince my wife to use government math to buy my new bike. “If we add $1T to the debt we will save $300b.”

That’s not just government math; Delta used the EXACT SAME IDIOM when they purchased Northwest….savings by addition!! That’s exactly what Richard Anderson, Delta’s CEO said when he announced the merger!!!

Independent

April 29th, 2010
12:36 pm

HDB, “free market theories do not totally work when it pertains to health care” is a much better outcome than government control practices that have been proven to totally not work. See England and Canada for healthcare examples. See Greece, Portugal and Spain for fiscal examples. I’d much rather be a slave to another by choice, than a slave to government by force.

ctucker

April 29th, 2010
12:39 pm

JohnnyREb, Republicans aren’t really trying to repeal it.

I'm here from the government and I'm here to help

April 29th, 2010
12:39 pm

I couldn’t make this up!!!

PRESIDENT OBAMA: “Now, what we’re doing, I want to be clear, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.”

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
12:42 pm

See Greece, Portugal and Spain for fiscal examples.

Ah yes–the Greece card. You probably wanna think twice before whippin’ that bad boy out.

Wall Street tactics akin to the ones that fostered subprime mortgages in America have worsened the financial crisis shaking Greece and undermining the euro by enabling European governments to hide their mounting debts.

[...]

As in the American subprime crisis and the implosion of the American International Group, financial derivatives played a role in the run-up of Greek debt. Instruments developed by Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and a wide range of other banks enabled politicians to mask additional borrowing in Greece, Italy and possibly elsewhere.

In dozens of deals across the Continent, banks provided cash upfront in return for government payments in the future, with those liabilities then left off the books. Greece, for example, traded away the rights to airport fees and lottery proceeds in years to come.

Critics say that such deals, because they are not recorded as loans, mislead investors and regulators about the depth of a country’s liabilities.

T-Town

April 29th, 2010
12:44 pm

There were many positive things within the bill that will correct several deficiencies, but at what cost? Any time a politician tell me that he is saving me money, I grab my wallet before I say thank you. All said, I still don’t believe the health care bill will generate/save any jobs, and just the opposite might occur.

A "Voice"

April 29th, 2010
12:44 pm

Some might consider the Repub’s commitment to appealing the Health Care Law premature since most of it won’t take effect for several years and no one really knows how effective it will be. . . that would compare with the Dem’s admonition of AZ’s illegal immigration law. . . the Dem’s are premature in assuming there will be an all out racial profiling. And if there is a case here or there that occurs of racial profiling is that enough to warrant making no attempt to get the situation under control.

Libertarian

April 29th, 2010
12:47 pm

@ I’m here from the government and I’m here to help

“I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money

I wonder what that point is for him? He made like $5 million last year. His buddy Oprah who practically got him elected makes a TON. I guess what he really means is “at a certain point FOR BANKERS/WALL STREET/CEO’S/HEALTHCARE COMPANIES/OIL COMPANIES/REPUBLICANS you’ve made enough money.

Independent

April 29th, 2010
12:49 pm

I’m here….I guess with that thinking there’ll come a time under ObamaCare when people will hear, “I do think at a certain point that you’ve consumed enough healthcare”,
or under Cap-n-Trade, “I do think at a certain point that you’ve driven enough”
or under Government Motors, “I do think at a certain point you should be required to buy a GM vehicle”

resno2

April 29th, 2010
12:49 pm

Teleprompter must have been down. That actually sounds like an opinion.

“I want to be clear”. “Historic”. “Unpresidented” “Blah, blah, blah”

SHUT UP ALREADY!!!!!!

I'm here from the government and I'm here to help

April 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

By Obama own words, its’ clear he wants to limit the money we can make! Then tax the hell out of it!

resno2

April 29th, 2010
12:54 pm

“and no one really knows how effective it will be. . ” Hell they didn’t even know what was in the HC bill until they passed it. Kinda give you a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that the state of our leadership is like that.

I'm here from the government and I'm here to help

April 29th, 2010
12:56 pm

Want to get rich? Work for feds

Data compiled by the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysis reveals the extent of the pay gap between federal and private workers. As of 2008, the average federal salary was $119,982, compared with $59,909 for the average private sector employee. In other words, the average federal bureaucrat makes twice as much as the average working taxpayer. Add the value of benefits like health care and pensions, and the gap grows even bigger. The average federal employee’s benefits add $40,785 to his annual total compensation, whereas the average working taxpayer’s benefits increase his total compensation by only $9,881. In other words, federal workers are paid on average salaries that are twice as generous as those in the private sector, and they receive benefits that are four times greater.

Bubba

April 29th, 2010
12:58 pm

Why has there been no comment from the AJC blogosphere on the report from the administration’s head actuary that came out last week? The one that said the health care plan would increase health care spending by $311 billion and will make it more difficult for seniors and many low-income Americans to obtain health care.
Direct quote from the report:
“Thus, providers for whom Medicare constitutes a substantive portion of their business could find it difficult to remain profitable and, absent legislative intervention, might end their participation in the program.”

It goes on to predict $311 billion in health care spending by 2019 because of the program. Didn’t Obama assure us that health care spending would decline?

Bubba

April 29th, 2010
12:59 pm

Should have said $311 billion INCREASE in health care spending.

I'm here from the government and I'm here to help

April 29th, 2010
1:00 pm

With the federal deficit and national debt heading into the stratosphere, taxpayers can no longer afford to support such lucrative government compensation. Public sector pay and benefits at all levels should be reduced to make it comparable to the wages and benefits earned by the average working taxpayer. The first politician to propose a five-year plan for this purpose is likely to be cheered mightily by taxpayers.!

pat phelps

April 29th, 2010
1:02 pm

I sure hope not. I want the Dems on the hook for this when it fails miserably and becomes a huge cash drain. I’m sure they will find a way to blame it on the conservatives.

Obama and his “you’ve made enough money” thinking is doing nothing but creating a nanny state. What an idiot.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 29th, 2010
1:05 pm

Good afternoon all. The latest trial balloon floating is that Obama’s own “deficit reduction panel” may itself advocate repeal of health care, as the unaffordable straw that breaks the camel’s back. As Obama himself has said that “nothing is off the table,” perhaps we are now seeing some economic maturity among the leftist overlords. But I doubt it.

I would wish to see republicans run on a platform of “repeal” and otherwise to eliminate as many federal jobs as possible, as a first step to restore the Obamaconomy. RINOs, such as our esteemed junior senator, are unlikely to reflect economic realities in their campaigns, and we would not anticipate any rational economic analysis from the left. So things will mostly just get worse.

pat

April 29th, 2010
1:07 pm

Yeah, it’s a great bill. It’s going to drive up health care costs even more. That’s exactly the opposite thing that needed to happen.
When the governement passes a bill and then goes on a campain to “sell” it, you know you have a real piece if sh!@# on your hands.

Higher taxes and higher medical costs! What a combo! I could have crapped better legislation in a coma.

Dee keith

April 29th, 2010
1:07 pm

JohnnyReb why would repukes want to repeal the bill when it represents the perfect tool to refute claims repukes are against evolution. Think about it, repukes have gone from advocating mandates as a part of personal responsibility to advocating irresponsibility by having taxpayers continually pick up the tab for individuals who either can’t afford health insurance, or choose not to purchase insurance.

Dee keith

April 29th, 2010
1:12 pm

It’s also interesting to note that Georgia has not told the Feds. we don’t need your help we will fund our own Medicade program. GEE! why do we supposed that is?

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
1:13 pm

…doing nothing but creating a nanny state.

Where is this “nanny state” meme poutrage on wedgie issues such as DADT, DOMA, reproductive rights, or even on the state level’s Sunday sales?

Drifter

April 29th, 2010
1:22 pm

You don’t have to reach too far back into history to see what the Republicans are going to do if they get back in control. They’ll throw away money with both hands, just like the Democrats. The only difference is Republicans are more likely to borrow it instead of raising taxes and they’re more likely to spend it on bombs than on something that might help someone.

Bubba

April 29th, 2010
1:24 pm

Agree on Sunday sales, Kamchak, but your “reproductive rights” would — in the anti-abortionist’s view — fall under the umbrella of protecting life, which is a legitimate role of the government.

resno2

April 29th, 2010
1:25 pm

And bankrupting the US economy is helping who?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 29th, 2010
1:25 pm

Dear Drifter @ 1:22, you are correct, unless the republicans elect conservatives. There are more conservatives running this time, so I suppose you are wrong.

Pulitzer Phan

April 29th, 2010
1:30 pm

As a conservative my reply is “yes, we are” and “yes, we can”!

There are improvements needed to health care coverage, but not the over-reaching, over-expensive, bloated current health care law that was passed. And for Pelosi’s sake, “We have now seen the details and are against 90% of the increased spending and lack of cost control.”

resno2

April 29th, 2010
1:37 pm

Pelosi has her fingers in her ears singing ‘I can’t hear you… lalalalalala’

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
1:41 pm

Agree on Sunday sales, Kamchak…

So you expressed yourself by accusing the Ga. State lege of being a nanny state?

HDB

April 29th, 2010
1:46 pm

Independent

April 29th, 2010
12:36 pm
HDB, “free market theories do not totally work when it pertains to health care” is a much better outcome than government control practices that have been proven to totally not work. See England and Canada for healthcare examples. See Greece, Portugal and Spain for fiscal examples. I’d much rather be a slave to another by choice, than a slave to government by force.

Problem is – if you are working….we’ll all slaves NOT by choice! If you’re WORKING for the MONEY….rather than the MONEY working for YOU…you’re ENSLAVED!!

The British, Canadian, and French health care systems are loved by their populace…particularly the French!! Both European systems were available since WW2….whatever issues arise, they are able to compensate. If we are the only nation in the developed world WITHOUT universal health care….what does that say about us as a nation?? What does it say when thousands of people are bankrupt due to medical expenses??

If you desire fiscal discipline, PLEASE CLOSE THE CORPORATE TAX LOOPHOLES that send jobs offshore….cut defense spending to make the bidding process more competitive, fully fund education rather than to cut/eliminate those progressive programs…fund protecting the borders by increasing Border agents…and raise taxes to fund the war!!! Please explain how a nation can cut revenue input, operate in two theaters of war…and keep the spending off the books??

THAT’S A START!!

Bubba

April 29th, 2010
1:48 pm

“So you expressed yourself by accusing the Ga. State lege of being a nanny state?”

In that instance, yes.

pat phelps

April 29th, 2010
1:48 pm

Is there anything confiscated and redistributed toward the Defense of Marriage Act or Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. No.

blutto

April 29th, 2010
1:54 pm

CT: “… Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act actually improves health care in America.”

How can that be determined before the law is implemented? Although I dread the day when America’s health care declines, this legislation will eventually result in higher costs and reduced care.

Kamchak

April 29th, 2010
1:56 pm

Is there anything confiscated and redistributed toward the Defense of Marriage Act or Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. No.

So that is your definition of “nanny state”? Sounds more like theft.

“Nanny state” probably doesn’t mean what you think it means.

HDB

April 29th, 2010
1:57 pm

pat phelps

April 29th, 2010
1:48 pm
Is there anything confiscated and redistributed toward the Defense of Marriage Act or Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. No.

Actually, the right to marry whomever HAS been confiscated from those whose desired partner is of the same sex…..and further redistributed to only those who oppose that concept!! Constitutionally, if one state recognizes same-sex marriage, then ALL states must recognize it!!

The right to serve one’s nation HAS been confiscated from those who desire to do so…but are gay! Is is necessary for a black person to hide his identity in order for that person to serve??

If a minority does not have the same rights as the majority, those rights HAVE been confiscated, haven’t they??

DirtyDawg

April 29th, 2010
1:59 pm

Coupla things…’first’ to mom3 – whataya mean all she has to do is ‘cut and paste’ and you’d like a job like that, mmmmm. Well CT has to do, sometimes, several columns a day and it’s hard to come up with something entirely new about issues and events that are already in the news….plus, my bet is that whatever ‘job’ you may already have, including mommying, how you go about doing it is based on procedures, policies, practices and learned behavior that came way before you did – I mean that mommying thing alone has been going on anywhere from 6,000 to 3 or 4 million years, depending on your beliefs, so don’t be so quick to claim ‘original thought’ about that or any other job.

The other thing I’d like to talk about is this constant, snide, snarly, reference to ObamaCare. I’ve, almost, stopped trying to question my ‘friends and family’ when they mention it, namely to ask, ‘Just what do you think this ObamaCare thing is anyway…cause since you and I already have some form of healthcare coverage it doesn’t really effect us…unless we’ve got a kid that graduated from college, can’t find a job doing what they thought they were training to do and are living at home…or unless you lose your current job and can’t find a new one and will, now, be able to participate in a pool of like-participants with a variety of companies involved in an ‘Exchange’ where rates can, at least, be negotiated (admittedly that’s a little down the road, but are you saying you wouldn’t want it available?)…and if your concerned about the ‘mandate’, well, there’s a lot of water yet to flow under the bridge on that one and with a public option – like opening up Medicare (at cost) to those under 65 – the mandates will no longer be needed, or the Exchanges either for that matter. Now if you’re a Doctor that’s complaining about having to, potentially, take a little less money than you’ve become accustomed to getting for what you do to/for patients, then I guess you’ll have to tap into some of those ‘off-shore’ accounts you’ve been stashing money in for a ‘rainy day’ – well it may be clouding up, but from where I sit if this is ObamaCare, more power to it.’ Yeah, this is what I’ve been saying to ‘em, but it’s become clear that they don’t really care what the subject is, just so long as they can bitch about that ‘black commie’ in the White House.

pat phelps

April 29th, 2010
2:11 pm

HDB – not sure you can confiscate something you never had to start with.