GOP senators were against jobs bill before they were for it

UPDATE: Six, not eight, GOP senators voted against allowing a jobs bill on the floor for a vote Monday; then, they turned around and voted for it today. They are:

Lamar Alexander (R-TN); Thad Cochran (R-MS); James Inhofe; (R-OK);George LeMieux (R-FL); Lisa Murkowski (R-AK);Roger Wicker (R-MS) (h/t TPM)

A rare — and very odd — moment of bi-partisan cooperation just broke out on the floor of the U.S. Senate. Thirteen Republicans joined 57 Democrats to pass a jobs bill that would provide tax cuts to businesses if they hire workers.

Here’s the odd thing: Just yesterday, eight of those Republicans voted AGAINST allowing the measure to even come up for a vote. They detested it so much yesterday they wouldn’t agree to end a filibuster. What happened to get them to switch?
(Some right-wingers are still unhappy about any bi-partisanship. See Kathleen Parker’s excellent column on the hate-fest that Scott Brown has endured.)

From the WaPo:

The Senate easily passed a $15 billion jobs bill on Wednesday morning amid hope that the measure could provide a blueprint for other items on President Obama’s agenda.

The measure passed 70 to 28, with 13 Republicans joining 57 Democrats in support of the package. One Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, voted against it.

“We’ve had so much gridlock,” said Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), co-author of a key portion of the bill. Now, he said, “finally we have something” to show the public.

The legislation is the first element of what enate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) has said will be a multipart “jobs agenda.” The measure includes a new program that would give companies a break from paying Social Security taxes on new employees for the remainder of 2010. It also carries a one-year extension of the Highway Trust Fund, an expansion of the Build America Bonds program and a provision to allow companies to write off equipment purchases.

The next stop is the House, where Democratic leaders are weighing whether to pass the Senate version or go to conference to reconcile it with the $154 billion jobs bill the House passed in December.

Wednesday’s passage of the Senate bill was made possible by five GOP defections on a procedural vote Monday from two retiring senators from the economically depressed Midwest and three New Englanders seeking to maintain a foothold in a region where Republican officeholders have grown scarce in recent election cycles.
Freshman Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) grabbed the headlines, deciding on the first big vote of his new career to side with Democrats and the two GOP moderates from Maine, Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia J. Snowe.

Just days after Brown was greeted rapturously by attendees at the Conservative Political Action Conference, his vote on the jobs measure made Reid “very happy,” the majority leader said. Reaction on the right was less complimentary.

One leader of the “tea party” movement has taken to calling the freshman “Benedict Brown,” and disillusioned conservatives filled Brown’s Facebook page with accusations that he was a “Judas” and a “sellout.”

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Kamchak

February 24th, 2010
12:25 pm

How’s that Scott-ey Brown-ey thing workin’ out for ya?

Bubba

February 24th, 2010
12:34 pm

disillusioned conservatives filled Brown’s Facebook page with accusations that he was a “Judas” and a “sellout.”

Perhaps her “excellent piece” could tell us just how many “disillusioned conservatives” “filled his Facebook page with accusations.” Ten, 20, 100, 1 million? I would think an “excellent piece” could provide some specifics. Maybe? Nah.

Bubba

February 24th, 2010
12:35 pm

Sorry for the misquote: “excellent column”

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
12:35 pm

“Thirteen Republicans joined 57 Democrats to pass a jobs bill that would provide tax cuts to businesses if they hire workers.”

Which ones? I want to make sure neither are in Georgia so I don’t vote for them again. This jobs bill is a hoax. What makes them think giving a business owner $1000 to hire a new employee is going to work? God these politicians are stupid!

ctucker

February 24th, 2010
12:42 pm

Don’t worry, Peadawg. Isakson and Chambliss voted ‘no’

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
12:44 pm

Wow, they actually did something good! :)

Everybody that voted for this needs to be VOTED OUT! This is a BIG waste of spending and taxpayers should be FURIOUS. Do they not understand the concept of “demand”?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 24th, 2010
12:50 pm

If anyone ever hears of a jobs bill that creates even one productive job, give me a call. Until then I assume it is mere posturing.

Kamchak

February 24th, 2010
12:51 pm

Perhaps her “excellent piece” could tell us just how many “disillusioned conservatives” “filled his Facebook page with accusations.” Ten, 20, 100, 1 million? I would think an “excellent piece” could provide some specifics. Maybe? Nah.

According to this report, it’s “3,546 comments of pure rage.” It seems they have also started on his daughter’s face book page also.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 24th, 2010
12:52 pm

Sound like there were two groups that voted for the jobs bill: the hypocrites, and the truly clueless.

jah

February 24th, 2010
12:52 pm

Party label makes no difference to me. I want senators and congressmen who believe in less government, less regulation and less bureaucracy; who believe in fiscal responsibility through less spending and not through increased taxation; who believe that government meddling in the means of production and the distribution of goods should be minimized; and who believe that fewer obstacles to business will result in the most rapid economic expansion possible.

HDB

February 24th, 2010
12:56 pm

Funny, isn’t it……when the GOP pushes tax cuts for business, conservatives jump for joy; when Democrats push tax cuts for business…it’s posturing!! Targeted tax cuts for business WILL work….and from what’s going on now, it’s needed!!

Betsy

February 24th, 2010
12:57 pm

Do you think Dems just want to be seen as doing something they think everyone will praise them for – yes, create jobs! give me money! give me HIS money! etc etc – without any regard as to whether it is smart or not? The bill isn’t going to do anything of the kind, anymore than the stimulus bill stimulated the economy or previous measures created jobs. I do not think Dems live in the real world but in their own little ivory tower on the Hill thinking they’re the gods of Olympus, the president included, and apparently Ms Tucker included. Where are our educated, professional, prudent, forward-looking REPRESENTATIVES? The Dems represent only a small amount of slackers of the Gimme Gimme Gimme variety.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
12:58 pm

“Targeted tax cuts for business WILL work….and from what’s going on now, it’s needed!!”

Tell me how a $1000 tax cut for a small business owner will influence him to hire 1 new employee? I guess you haven’t heard of “demand” either, HDB.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 24th, 2010
12:59 pm

Dear HDB @ 12:56, not all tax cuts are created equally. A meaningless tax cut is no different from “nothing.” If Chauncey came out for a renewal of the Bush tax cuts, we conservatives would join his bandwagon. It’s not a partisanship thing, it’s ideological.

mom3

February 24th, 2010
1:00 pm

I like this quote:
We’ve had so much gridlock,” said Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), co-author of a key portion of the bill. Now, he said, “finally we have something” to show the public.

I guess it doesn’t really matter what is in the bill, just as long as they pass something!

HDB

February 24th, 2010
1:02 pm

@jah: Party label makes no difference to me. I want senators and congressmen who believe in less government, less regulation and less bureaucracy; who believe in fiscal responsibility through less spending and not through increased taxation; who believe that government meddling in the means of production and the distribution of goods should be minimized; and who believe that fewer obstacles to business will result in the most rapid economic expansion possible.

—————————————————————————————————————————-
Unbridled, laissez-faire economics is what GOT this nation into its current economic pickle. Unregulated business/banks running amok with limited governmental oversight, two wars and off-the-book spending put this nation on the brink! Limited government means EFFECTIVE government. Controls that do NOT stifle the economic engine are greatly desired…..but effective governmental oversight IS necessary. Effective government means prudent spending of the taxpayers’ money; effective government means proper taxation of its people and providing the necessary services that government must provide.

HDB

February 24th, 2010
1:07 pm

Peadawg and Ragnar: A $1000 tax cut may be, for some small businesses, the motivation to BEGIN expansion…and therefore creat the demand for employees. There are markets that are growing in this economy, and in those markets, the demand is there!!

The Bush tax cuts did NOT help everyone; for most, it was a tax INCREASE on the middle class!! What was needed was to maintain the taxation levels of the Clinton Administration, prudent economic policies, and placing wartime spending ON THE BOOKS!! Please inform me as to when in prior history that this nation was not asked to SACRIFICE during war time by increasing taxes?? Bush said — “KEEP SHOPPING!”

Granny Godzilla

February 24th, 2010
1:11 pm

Horsefeathers!

GOP Senators are Marxist –
Groucho, Chico, Harpo, Gummo and Zeppo Marx(ist)….whatever it is…they’re against it!

Cosby Smith

February 24th, 2010
1:18 pm

The Government does not nor is suppose to create jobs. this is a big shell game utilizing the bogus tax code to say look at me. Dems Repubs are all the same. Do somehting that looks good but does nothing and then say I need to get re-elected. If they had any common sense and guts they woud trash the illegal and imoral taxk code and pass the Fair Tax. that way neither the Dems nor Repubs would have much power! Just check out the last stimlus bill, most went to shore up Social Security, loans or gifts to states to shore up their budgets, bail out medicare but vety littel went to any so called “Jobs”…just a big shell game by both parties. so i think we should let cynthis and the Dems pay off the national debt for being “STUPID”

Granny Godzilla

February 24th, 2010
1:22 pm

Ms. Tucker

You have the patience of a saint.

jah

February 24th, 2010
1:25 pm

HDB: You will not find the words “unbridled, laissez-faire economics” in my comments. The pendulum swings both ways. At the present time there is excessive regulation, excessive bureaucracy and excessive government intervention in commerce.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
1:26 pm

“A $1000 tax cut may be, for some small businesses, the motivation to BEGIN expansion…and therefore creat the demand for employees.”

I ask again, why would $1000 motivate someone to begin expansion if nobody is buying the product? Again, do you not know about the concept of “DEMAND”???

demwit

February 24th, 2010
1:34 pm

Where can I get one of these federal jobs?
Oh, oh, I know! Demwit for President!!
Change you can definitely believe in..,(wink, wink)

706dawg

February 24th, 2010
1:51 pm

“Finally Something To Show The Public,” is on point! Victims of “Political Gridlock” finally produce something…

How’d that Supermajority Thing Work Out For Ya?

Curios

February 24th, 2010
1:51 pm

Cynthia,
Could you please explain to me how $1,000 will motivate business to hire? $1,000 dollars would not even cover the cost of training, much less the salary, payroll tax and other expenditures associated with hiring a new employee. I’m siding with Peadawg, if the demand isn’t there for you product, $1,000 is not going to push you over the edge in terms of hiring. Any person associated with a legitmiately run small business could tell you that.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
1:53 pm

“Could you please explain to me how $1,000 will motivate business to hire? ”

B/c it’s Obama and he’s democrat. He gets a pass. Right Cynthia?

ctucker

February 24th, 2010
1:53 pm

Granny Godzilla, I often have to do a couple of yoga poses before I look at the comments.

Reality

February 24th, 2010
1:57 pm

ctucker – Do you think that Barr is coming over to your blog and posting as peadawg? Just a thought.

Granny Godzilla

February 24th, 2010
1:59 pm

Reality

February 24th, 2010
1:59 pm

Curious and Peadawg: You are right in that $1000 isn’t going to make any business run out and hire millions of people just to get that $1000 per person. But, it may make the difference to enable a small business that may have a need to grow to ‘make it’ as opposed to not.

Can’t you AT LEAST admit that it is a step (however small) in the right direction? Can’t you at least do that?

Curios

February 24th, 2010
2:04 pm

Reality,
If you mean small in terms of comparing inches and miles, then yes it is a step in the right direction. I find it hard to believe there are hundreds of small business owners sitting in their offices going over their financials thinking: “Man, If I only had $1,000 more dollars I could make a new hire!” There is a lot more to it and I just don’t see how any small business could justify hiring someone for only $1,000 off of all the expenses associated with a new employee.

Robert

February 24th, 2010
2:16 pm

Reality,

Could you AT LEAST admit that if the $800 billion jobs bill passed last year actually worked, then we wouldn’t need another $15 billion jobs bill?

Robert

February 24th, 2010
2:20 pm

Democrats were against Reconciliation before they were for it.

Interesting video clip today on Breitbart. – “Obama and Dems in ‘05: 51 Vote ‘Nuclear Option’ Is ‘Arrogant’ Power Grab Against the Founders’ Intent”

Biden: “I pray God when the Democrats take back control we don’t make the kind of naked power grab you are doing.”

scrappy

February 24th, 2010
2:20 pm

Peadawg – Not everything is demand based only. Take the company I currently ‘contract’ work for – people who have not been downsized are doing the work of 2 or 3 people. Contractors make up for some, and so do temps. They are not hiring full time because demand is not there, they are not hiring full time because it doesn’t look as good to the books and the bottom line to spend more on employee costs – not just the salary part.
You are taking a very narrow-minded approach to this issue. Is not paying SS tax or $1000 credit going to fix all of the country’s unemployment issues? NO. But, it will help some, some being better than none, and I am hoping that it may help me as well.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
2:21 pm

Curios answered before I got a chance to. In the big picture, $1000 is just more wasted taxpayers’ dollars. I mean, seriously, who would want to work for someone and make $1000 PER YEAR?

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
2:23 pm

If my math is correct…someone working 52 weeks, 40 hours a week, would make 48 cents an hour, $19 a week if they are hired.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
2:24 pm

If you have to go do more yoga, Cynthia, b/c of basic math…yikes!!!!!

Blue

February 24th, 2010
2:50 pm

Got it, CT. One trick pony again; GOP are always partisan, and DEM’s are always bi-partisan. We got it.

Reality

February 24th, 2010
2:50 pm

Peadawg – Good grief. You are making as many leaps of “logic” as Scott does! Why do you suppose that the $1000 was intented to be the employee salary? No one has said that and no one has proposed that. Why do you waste blog space with such silliness?

Reality

February 24th, 2010
2:53 pm

Curios – Yes! Thank you! The right direction is just that – a direction. It isn’t necessarily a mile or a foot or an inch.

Even an oil tanker must first change direction before making progress forward. [Peadawg - please don't go off now on oil tankers]

Shawny

February 24th, 2010
2:55 pm

They get tax breaks for hiring workers that have been out of work for >6 months. hmmmmmmm, for hiring workers that they wouldn’t (most likely) have hired otherwise. Good for those particularly workers, but probably not good for the employers. If someone hasn’t worked at all for 6 months, there is a good reason, and it isn’t that Mickey D’s wasnt hiring.

Sam

February 24th, 2010
2:56 pm

Pee, you’re out of control. please take a 2 minute timeout.

TnGelding

February 24th, 2010
3:01 pm

The worm(s) turned.

Jimmy Carter

February 24th, 2010
3:12 pm

Let me try this without the links.

Speaking of flip flops, check this out. Democrat leaders commenting in 2005 on the nuclear option:

“…will change the character of the Senate forever”….Barack Obama

“…that’s just not what the founders intended”….Barack Obama

W said “change the rules, do it the way I want it done”……Hilary Clinton

“…you have to restrain yourself Mr. President.”……Hilary Clinton

“We are on the precipice of a crisis, a Constitutional crisis”……Chuck Shumer

“the checks and balances which have been at the core of this Republic are about to be evaporated by the nuclear option”…….Chuck Shumer

“the nuclear option, if successful, will turn the Senate into a body that could have its rules broken at any time by a majority of Senators…”….Diane Feinstein

“This nuclear option is an ultimate example of the arrogance of power. It is a fundamental power grab…”….Joe Biden

“..arrogance of power of this republican administration…”….Harry Reid

“I pray God when the Democrats take back control we don’t make the kind of naked power grab you are doing.”….Joe Biden

“…what were the framers thinking about 218 years ago. They understood. Mr. President, there is a tyranny of the majority”….Chris Dodd

AND MUCH MUCH MORE.

Yeah, that pretty much sums up the libs.

Peadawg

February 24th, 2010
3:14 pm

“Why do you suppose that the $1000 was intented to be the employee salary?”

The bill says the owner will get a $1000 tax cut if they hire someone new. If the owner couldn’t afford to hire someone BEFORE the thousand bucks, what makes you think he can hire someone WITH an extra thousand bucks? This bill makes absolutely no sense if you actually think about it.

Jimmy Carter

February 24th, 2010
3:14 pm

My link keeps getting “moderrated”. Look it up on breitbart.

BADA BING

February 24th, 2010
3:23 pm

CTuck does Yoga? I bet her favorite Yoga position is LEFTWARD FACING DONKEY.

BADA BING

February 24th, 2010
3:26 pm

My favorite Yoga position is RIGHT FACING MUTTONHEAD.

El Jefe

February 24th, 2010
3:28 pm

It is ludicrous to think that offering tax credits will encourage the majority of private industries to hire workers.

Does it make sense to hire someone when the work – or the customers are not there?

I am sure some retailers will hire, but real career type jobs – hmm, maybe not.

The way to create provate sector jobs, as history has shown us, is to decrease spending (take less money out of the economy) and ease the taxes, regulations and fees(capital gains, etc) burden on businesses.

It has worked that way too many times to be ignored, but someone in DC is.

El Jefe

February 24th, 2010
3:31 pm

Jimmy Carter,

Re your 3:12 pm

And? this surprises you?