Childhood obesity bad for kids and the country
WASHINGTON — Earlier this month, First Lady Michelle Obama launched her campaign against childhood obesity with a round of TV appearances in which she discussed her struggles to help her young daughters maintain a healthy weight. She had hardly finished speaking when the roar of her critics erupted: Did she say “chubby”? How dare she embarrass her daughters! She shouldn’t say “diet!”!
There was also a broadside from University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, author of “The Obesity Myth.” Writing in The New Republic, Campos claimed that Obama’s crusade is “dangerous nonsense.”
Happily, the first lady has has soldiered on in her efforts to draw attention to what is, in fact, an epidemic. An estimated 32 percent of children and adolescents are obese or overweight, according to public health experts. Some of them have already been stricken by chronic ailments that used to be reserved for adulthood, including high blood pressure and Type 2 diabetes.
And many of those children live in the South, which, statistically speaking, is the nation’s fattest region. In 2005 (the last year for which statistics were available), an estimated 31.7 percent of Georgia children were overweight or obese. But few states could afford to boast. About 30 percent of California kids were classified as overweight or obese, as were 30.9 percent of children in New York.
Obesity isn’t just a matter of personal choice or individual liberty. Emory University’s Kenneth Thorpe, a professor of public health, says that it’s a leading cause of soaring health care costs. In a report called ” The Future Costs of Obesity,” Thorpe estimates that Georgia currently spends about $2.5 billion a year in direct health-care costs related to obesity. If current trends continue, that would rise to nearly $11 billion by 2018, he says.
As for Campos’ claim that the obesity epidemic is a “myth,” he might spend a little time with Dr. Mark Wulkan, chief surgeon at Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta. Wulkan has developed a specialty of performing bariatric surgery — a procedure that reduces the size of the stomach — on kids. He has seen adolescents weighing 400 to 500 pounds.
Wulkan, who calls Obama’s campaign “fantastic,” says that, out of an abundane of caution, he has restricted his operations to one or two a month, but “I could be doing several a week, and, to me, that is really scary.”
“People were initially critical of our doing adolescent bariatric surgery because they thought we were trying to make them skinny for the prom. What we were trying to do is reverse diabetes, bad joint problems, high blood pressure, things you didn’t see in kids before,” Wulkan said.
Since obese children are more likely to remain obese as adults, it makes sense to try to tackle the problem in childhood, when habits such as eating sensibly and getting regular exercise are more easily influenced. Obama’s initiative, called “Let’s Move,” has four prongs: increased physical activity; more information about nutrition; increased access to healthy foods; and, of course, personal responsibility. The White House has assigned a task forced across Cabinet-level departments to aid the effort.
State Rep. Judy Manning (R-Marietta), calls the First Lady’s campaign “absolutely imperative. I think it’s something we’ve needed for a long, long time.”
Manning tried to push the state legislature to take action to curb childhood obesity a few years ago, but her efforts were stymied. “I think some people thought it was an effort to ridicule and bully children. . .I think people are just now waking up,” she said.
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neo-Carlinist
February 19th, 2010
6:11 pm
I beg to differ. if childhood obesity (as some suggest) is genetic, then the first lady’s efforts are Quixotic at best, and arrogant at worst. if childhood obesity is the result of poor diet and lack of excercise (lifestyle choices), the gub-ment has no place advising parents/children (my body, my choice, right?). it’s like smoking, STDs, drugs, or texting while driving; if people do not see the potentially fatal consequences of these behaviors, what makes Michelle Obama think she can make Americans “see” what is already in plain view. it’s a nice idea, but I like the idea of fat kids because they usally grow up to be fat adults, who die of heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, and strokes at a much faster rate than healthy people. this is just another example of mankind disturbing the work of Mother Nature (capital N).
professional skeptic
February 19th, 2010
6:21 pm
Excellent topic, Cynthia. One of the toughest obstacles to progress in this area will be to understand why the cheapest, most conveniently obtained and most readily available foods in our country also tend to be the most unhealthy. Is our government for some reason subsidizing the production of processed foods or the ingredients used to make them? (I personally do not know the answer to this.)
On the point of personal responsibility, we have GOT to start being honest with ourselves and ask, for example, what business do we have buying chips and dip or those couple boxes of Little Debbies– when we should be buying a box of pasta and a jar of sauce, or a bag of brown rice and some beans instead?
To be sure, a large part of it also stems from how we choose to spend our time (or let our children spend their time): hours on end playing video games and watching mind-rotting reality shows? Or spending time outside walking or riding a bike?
I wish the First Lady the best of luck, as there doesn’t seem to be a simple answer to this multifaceted problem.
professional skeptic
February 19th, 2010
6:26 pm
neo-Carlinist
February 19th, 2010
6:11 pm
To the extent that you or anyone else actually believes what you were saying: those fat adults who get cancer, heart disease, diabetes and strokes end up raising the cost of health care for the rest of us. Nice non-solution there!
quod erat demonstrandum
February 19th, 2010
7:23 pm
You’re right. Let’s take all the decision making away from the parents and let some bureaucrat make them for us, because we are so stupid and lazy.
Step back a look at the big picture.
1) Doing away with recess and a hour lunch in grade school – dumbest idea I have ever heard.
2) Not having mandatory PE in high school – another of those pin headed dumb ideas.
3) Allowing schools to supplement their budgets, that don’t get to the teachers, with vending machines.
4) Allowing some far off group of educated idiots(Dept. of Education) make school decisions.
This is just a start.
This is the normal outcome for progressive and permissive programs at schools at any level of education.
kayaker 71
February 19th, 2010
7:26 pm
What makes you think that just because Michelle says it’s not good to be fat that the American public will respond? Taking personal responsibility for your actions is key to any campaign to get persons to change their behavior. Quitting smoking, cutting back on drinking alcohol, not getting an abortion, using birth control devices instead of getting pregnant…. all of these things demand that the perpetrator use common sense, take responsibility for their actions and strive to make themselves part of responsible behavior. All of these things are personal choices. Calories in/calories out. You get fat because you eat too much and don’t get enough exercise. If people choose to have irresponsible behavior, what’s to make you think that anything that Michelle says or does will make a difference. Maybe she should better ply her lawyer skills from her Harvard education to get this country on an better financial footing. Makes a lot more sense.
neo-Carlinist
February 19th, 2010
7:43 pm
profesional skeptic, maybe you should ask yourself (or your insurance company/healthcare provider) why this is so? of course I “believe” what I wrote (it is based on facts). it has nothing to do with the racketeering scam that is our “medical-insurance” complex.
neo-Carlinist
February 19th, 2010
8:30 pm
one more thing, back in the day, before bureacrats, bean counters and paper-shufflers “managed” healthcare (kept sick people alive, for profit), lazy, unhealthy people died.
DAVID; AJC Truth Detector
February 19th, 2010
9:20 pm
Geeeee-wiiiz……Golllyyy…During G. Bush’s presidency…….the Atlanta-Obama-Journal wrote hundreds of articles on children going HUNGRY———HUNGRY children………are now FAT…WOW….WOW..
The Tar and Feathers Party
February 19th, 2010
9:33 pm
Put em all on a beans and rice diet, nothing else, no flavorings, no sauces, no butter, nuthing…..Those fatties will shrink right down, no surgery required. And the price is dirt cheap compared to fatty surgery.. The word bariatric was just made up to substitute for fatty. Can’t you just hear the drill instructor yelling “come on you bariatric cows, move your legs, lift em high.”
not a CT fan
February 19th, 2010
9:54 pm
I just bet the Obama girls had a real weight problem. I just bet Michelle had to struggle keeping them at a healthy weight. Now what else do you expect me to believe?
Michael H. Smith
February 19th, 2010
9:55 pm
Is our government for some reason subsidizing the production of processed foods or the ingredients used to make them?
Yes, and you needn’t look any further than our very own lovable Congress to find the answer (or answers) e.g. sugar subsidies.
Unfortunately Comrade Cynthia, never fails to fail. The First Lady is taking on a task much bigger than obesity or just one dealing with the fat and sugar content found in the average American childhood diet as many early reports divulged. Another sleeping giant has emerged, slat or sodium, which is often overlooked and ignorantly discounted as more useless information due to over governmental regulation of everything – especially everything written on the back of the labels on all the various boxes, bags and packages of every processed food thing we buy from anywhere.
This time the right honorable President and First Lady have got it right to raise a healthier generation of kids a comprehensive approach will be necessary:
A recent report reveals that reducing the salt or sodium consumption by one half teaspoon in the American diet in health terms is as good as smoking cessation. According to the report half a teaspoon less salt a day would prevent 92,000 deaths, 99,000 heart attacks and 66,000 strokes.
After reading this report, yours truly set about going on a self-imposed “get the salt out” campaign. Given the facts of age, family history (genetics) and something a family doctor use to say every time at the end of an office visit as part of his prescription: Plenty of good clean living.
For children and adults getting the fat, sugar and salt content of our diets within a healthy medium is exactly what the old family doctor ordered.
Admittedly after about a week and a half of frustration trying to find no salt and low sodium processed foods in the grocery stores, researching the Internet on the salt free and low sodium diet subject, add-in an ounce some stick-to-it-ive-ness, while actually successfully achieving a milestone or two in reducing the salt in my diet happily yours truly feels a heck of alot better – no doubt due to a nice very relaxing lowering of the blood pressure.
So, if you just happen to be part of that vast branch of the human family which is subject to high blood pressure, heart attacks, diabetes or as some say have poor circulation, “get the salt out” or down to about 1,500 mg or better at 1,200 mg of sodium a day. You’ll probably feel better for your own hard work efforts.
ND
February 19th, 2010
10:04 pm
The idea that childhood obesity is genetic on the scale that it exists in America is absolutely absurd. Go to any other country, other than in the Pacific Islands, and try to find as many fat kids in one school as there are here. I guarantee you won’t even come close. It’s not like Americans are some distinct ethnic group who have unique fatness genes. American kids are fat because American food is by and large terrible compared to food anywhere else in the world.
Michael H. Smith
February 19th, 2010
10:07 pm
Can I say all that and get away with it, Comrade Cynthia: I mean, a nice very relaxing lowering of the blood pressure.
Big Pharma and the pill pushers posing as real doctors might bring pressures to bear on the AJC… and the sugar industry – OMG! Fly little honey bees, fly.
Michael H. Smith
February 19th, 2010
10:24 pm
By the way ND, the average daily salt or sodium content in the UK diet is around 1,500 mg of sodium a day as opposed to the average American man getting about 10.4 a day and women getting 7.3 grams a day.
The American diet has to be one of the worst the world has ever seen.
Sadly Momma Obama is going to spend a ton of money to get tons of crap out of our food supply when all it would take is we the consumers demanding less bad fats, sugar and salt in the processed foods (junk) we buy.
BADA BING
February 19th, 2010
10:36 pm
On a related note, did you notice that you never see any dogs in Haiti?
Tall
February 19th, 2010
10:50 pm
Some years ago, Jack Lalanne said “If man makes it, don’t eat it”. Add to that an exercise routine that combines cardio, basic weight training and stretching, and you won’t have a weight problem. I tried it and it works. Everything you need is right at your local grocery store. You only need to drink water. It’s tough to start, but after awhile you really do feel better.
Brakeman
February 19th, 2010
11:41 pm
Whatever happened to:
“Annie, Annie two by four,
Couldn’t get through the bathroom door.”
Michael H. Smith
February 19th, 2010
11:54 pm
A news item worth a review which ties into the topic at hand can be found at county health rankings dot org
Comrade Cynthia is going to love what the county rankings in Georgia reveals: Forsyth, Cobb and Gwinnett are ranked 3, 4 and 5 respectively while Fulton ranks 24 Dee-Kalb ranks 17 and Clayton ranks 46. The lower the number the healthier the county.
Access to healthy food in Forsyth County 67%
Access to healthy food in Fulton County 38%
Richard Simmons
February 20th, 2010
2:49 am
Uhhhh…I think Michelle needs to be doin’ some Sweatin’ to the Oldies herself. Physician, or in this case Attorney, heal thyself!!
Joel Edge
February 20th, 2010
5:35 am
Sign of the times. Both parents working trying to stay above water, feeding the kids whatever is quick, no time to spend with them, moms not at home, etc. You know the drill.
Grumpy
February 20th, 2010
6:23 am
Just another area where some folks think more government is the answer. Awesome.
Bud Wiser
February 20th, 2010
7:16 am
So who will be the “Fat Czar”?
I nominate rapper Fat Joe – “,i>..rap music is entertainment, it’s like writing a movie.”
With intelligence like that, he’ll fit right in to the Obowo WH.
Morrus
February 20th, 2010
7:33 am
Vote out the incumbents and start over
CJ
February 20th, 2010
7:39 am
Joel–good point.
It’s also a sign of the times that there are more registered child molesters on every street corner, thanks to our government not either executing them or keeping them in prison where they belong (or removing the offending body part)
The kids have to stay inside and watch TV, since the perverts have more rights to life than they do, even though the perverts gave up their rights already. Thus, the problem of obese kids: they cannot play anymore outsid ,thanks to Cynthias wonderful government, who is now looking for other ways to take away what little precious freedoms they have left.
CJ
February 20th, 2010
7:41 am
Joel–good point.
It’s also a sign of the times that there are more registered child molesters/pedophiles on every street corner, thanks to our government not either executing them or keeping them in prison where they belong (or removing the offending body part)
The kids have to stay inside and watch TV, since the perverts have more rights to life than they do, even though the perverts gave up their rights already. Thus, the problem of obese kids: they cannot play anymore outside,thanks to Cynthia’s wonderful Nanny-government, who is now looking for other ways to take away what little precious freedoms they have left.
Capital Rage
February 20th, 2010
7:52 am
What is Cynthia accusing the school administrators of now? Cheating on their diets? By the way, CNN has reported that Gumby has been subpoena’d to testify at the school cheating scandal hearings…..
I was very fortunate to get through the high school-lunch program without becoming obese or contracting diabetes. I simply knew to stay away from the Shephard’s Pie, that all. I ate all my veggies, (catsup), and my homeroom teacher’s daily dose of castor oil did wonders for my regularity.
In catholic elementary school in Waco Texas in 1960, a nun used to proctor the lunch room and make sure that everyone ate the yams on tuesdays. Those yams were horrid. Tuesdays were hell. The morning was spent dreading lunch period. Lunch period was spent forcing the orange poison down your throat and keeping an eye on Sister Philomena. The rest of the day was spent with a tummy ache and a bad taste in your mouth. Yam Tuesdays In Waco Texas. To this day I don’t care whether it’s white or red wine with yams, I just want to get drunk and make it through dinner. And you can keep your yams.
You can thank a nun for that.
Michael H. Smith
February 20th, 2010
8:01 am
In this area Grumpy, it should require better, not bigger government. Less taxpayer money wasted, better spent consumer money and most importantly a news media better informing the society it is meant to serve.
Unlike our obese government, when We the Consumers speak with our dollars the private sector capitalist food industry listens and gives us what ever we will buy. Unfortunately when We the Consumers speak in our voice as We the People our public sector near socialist government in concentrated powers only ignores us, confiscates more of our money and abuses our more of our dollars.
A pretty good line of reasoning for a diet of honest tax reform that reduces the concentrated powers of our obese government, which is getting fatter every day by consuming more of our money, thereby reducing the efficacy of our liberty.
hmm… is our government just too fat to work?
After that thought it is time for a Tea Party: Think I’ll have a nice calming hot cup of “Green Tea” with raw honey as sweetener this morning.
Jeff
February 20th, 2010
8:15 am
1. If a parent doesn’t realize their child is obese until M.O. tells them, they most likely aren’t cognitive enough to do something about it.
2. I thought there was a huge anorexia-epidemic? How can we have both?
3. I think M.O. is right. I see fat kids everywhere. Kids didn’t look this obese when I was growing up in the 80’s. I’m no expert at why, but the “proof is in the (too much) pudding)”.
david wayne osedach
February 20th, 2010
8:25 am
I’m waiting for the one cent per ounce soda tax followed by a five cent candy bar tax. And greasy food tax….
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2010
8:26 am
Good morning.
I am astounded that anyone could take a negative view of such a sensible plan.
Genetic disorders aside, most of us folks carry extra fat because we sit down and eat crap.
A gentle reminder about how big our national backside looks in these pants by way of a PSA is a good thing. We do it to prevent forest fires and littering. I’m pretty sure Mrs. Obama is not going to pry the Hostess cupcake out of our cold dead hands.
I support the First Lady in this endeavor.
Joel Edge
February 20th, 2010
8:38 am
CJ
OK
Jeff
We can have both obesity and anorexia. Depends on what BS they’re pushing and who”s pushing it.
A Different Opinion
February 20th, 2010
9:00 am
Well, I know we have a problem with obesity…..you see it everywhere……I even see it on Television’s “Wheel Of Fortune”…..I have remarked to my lovely wife many times….”There must be something wrong with our TV…..those women couldn’t be that big”. As to America’s kids, I know why white kids have this problem and with Blacks it’s….”Pants on the Ground, Pants on the Ground”
Folks, the problem is our kids are not getting enough exercise…..they’re sitting there in front of that stupid Boob Tube, the Computer, Phone/Blackberry. The only things they’re exercising is their hands and thumbs for texting. Get rid of school buses and make ‘em walk back and forth to school…..get ‘em out of the house and tell them to rake the yard, etc……go to the gym and work off their energy……take charge parents!!!!!!!! Oh, I forgot the biggest thing……quit eating all that fast food crap……parents, start feeding your kids some real food….you know, like vegetables, fruits and keep ‘em away from the bread and sweets.
Michael H. Smith
February 20th, 2010
9:02 am
Dare you AJC, in fact I double dang dare you to start publishing an unholy trinity list of foods containing the highest and lowest amounts of bad fats, sugars and salts that your reporters can find at the local grocery stores in and around Atlanta proper and the street addresses of the stores where you find them being sold, in the AJC food section.
Put-up or shush-up time Comrade Cynthia, you got a little clout with the Cox organization.
ken R
February 20th, 2010
9:13 am
Cynthia, I think it’s a good idea for the first lady to make everyone aware that being obese isn’t good for you, I also think that most people already know that, just like drugs, unsafe sex, smoking, etc. these are bad for you also.
I also know that even with the weight problem in our country people are living much longer, is this an oxymoron?
When people disagree with you I see 100/300 blogs from the wanna be journalist’s who love to see themselves in print, where are they today? They make me laugh.
Capital Rage
February 20th, 2010
9:17 am
I agree with all the comments today. But I have to apologize to Cynthia Tucker. I have cheated with other bloghosts. I’ve even coddled trolls here and elsewhere. I thought that the blog rules didn’t apply to me. I was wrong, and hope that someday, Cynthia will coddle me again.
I don’t know when I’ll comment again, but maybe soon.
Kamchak
February 20th, 2010
9:30 am
“It’s a question of money,” Drewnowski said. “The reason healthier diets are beyond the reach of many people is that such diets cost more. On a per calorie basis, diets composed of whole grains, fish, and fresh vegetables and fruit are far more expensive than refined grains, added sugars and added fats. It’s not a question of being sensible or silly when it comes to food choices, it’s about being limited to those foods that you can afford.”
Energy-dense foods not only provide more calories per unit weight, but can provide more empty calories per unit cost. These foods include French fries, soft drinks, candy, cookies, deep-fried meats and other fatty, sugary and salty items. The review shows that attempting to reduce food spending tends to drive families toward more refined grains, added sugars and added fats. Previous studies have shown that energy-dense foods may fail to trigger physiological satiety mechanisms – the internal signals that enough food has been consumed. These failed signals lead to overeating and overweight. Paradoxically, trying to save money on food may be a factor in the current obesity epidemic.
Concerned Citizen
February 20th, 2010
9:35 am
O.K. No one else will bring it up so I will …………. she’es worried about her kids but what is the First Lady going to do about “her” butt?
The Tar and Feathers Party
February 20th, 2010
9:36 am
Beans and rice give you everything you need to live, just don’t polish the rice.
neo-Carlinist
February 20th, 2010
9:40 am
Granny G, I think most of the “anti” comments do not dispute childhood obesity exists, they simply question the time, money, and energy to be spent by the First Lady. There are many healthy Americans (those who eat right, excercise and eschew tobacco) who have done just fine without the advice of the government. this (non) issue is about personal choice. it is about accepting responsibility for behavior and nothing more. if there are any questions, Americans should check out the documentary “Super Size”. everything in moderation (including excercise).
The Tar and Feathers Party
February 20th, 2010
9:41 am
Dear Capital Rage: I too have cheated with other bloghosts, but unlike you feminized whimps, I stand before the world un repentant and defiant. There has been a 30 year war against men in the country, and the decline and fall of America is a direct result. I for one will not bow before the feminazi’s, and if I git sent to the muttonhead blog, all the better to fight back from OTHER BLOG sites. We need a leader to focus our counterattack on femi’s, but that leader ain’t gonna be Tiger, he whimed out on us.
Grumpy
February 20th, 2010
9:45 am
Where’s the financial incentive to not be a lard butt? I’m not talking a penny tax on soda. I’m talking about jacking up health insurance rates. Make it hurt to be tubby.
I’m in very good shape. The person in the office next to me is a cow. Left wingers love the term “fair share” so why don’t we make her pay her “fair share” for insurance? If her kids are cows too, jack up the rates even higher.
Moderate Line
February 20th, 2010
9:50 am
Kamchak:
To add to that statement the food that is quick which is why I believe most people buy this food.
I remember watching a documentry on how peole would not buy frozen food when it was first introduce because it was so bland. Now frozen food is the norm. After endless years of marketing the frozen food makers have gotten us to buy loads of this stuff. Frozen food also has the added problem of having to much salt.
I grew in town where there was no McDonalds. The only time we ate fast food was when we would go to another town shopping. Now people will go to a fast food place for a regular lunch or dinner because they do not feel like cooking.
The Tar and Feathers Party
February 20th, 2010
9:51 am
Yes, lets charge for health insurance by the pound of fat….but who is gonna determine what is fat and what is muscle? Density can distinguish between fat and muscle, muscle is much more dense than fat (density is mass per unit volume for you slo pokes out there). So we can determine mass by weighing people and applying a little math, but the volume of a person is more difficult to determine. The best way is to measure the volume of water they displace, but that requires specialized equipment and costs money. Then we gotta charge for smoking, drinking, and unprotected sex. Women under 40 git a discount if they git their tubes tied.
neo-Carlinist
February 20th, 2010
9:57 am
Grumpy, I have a better idea (previously suggested by others), let’s replace the “food stamp” program with basic staples such as rice (can even be brown rice), beans, pasta, meat or tofu (don’t know many “poor” vegetarians, but hey), eggs, fruits and veggies, and milk or water only. I clip coupons, buy store brands and eat meat once a week. it chaps my (proportional) butt to see some fat person (with fat kids) “pay” for Captain Crunch, soda, potato chips, ice cream and Snickers bars THEN get some cash back for a carton of smokes or a six pack (off the books). Better yet, why doesn’t the First Lady require poor people to have vegetable gardens (like she has at the WH)? notonly will they eat better food, they’re reduce their carbon footprint because they won’t have to drive to the grocery store to purchase foods produced on corporate farms, miles away.
Michael H. Smith
February 20th, 2010
9:58 am
Happy to report Kamchak that the poor can buy low sodium loaf bread that has 25 mg of salt, zero cholesterol and only two grams of sugar per serving (Serving size two slices) at Kroger for the same price as Kroger’s regular salt-loaded loaf bread that has 210 mg of sodium, zero cholesterol and 3 grams of sugar per serving(Serving size “one slice”).
If we consumers start demanding healthier food at our grocery stores the healthy food availability will increase and the costs of a healthy diet will go down. WE not our GUB’MENT can do this more effectually and save billions of tax dollars in the process of becoming a healthier citizenry.
Yes WE can!
smiles for miles
Russ555
February 20th, 2010
10:02 am
Glad that Michelle is bringing this to our attention. It’s a problem that people need more information about.
Kids need a better diet, not so many processed and fast foods, more exercise at home and at school. And parents need to know that.
Kamchak
February 20th, 2010
10:04 am
Kamchak:
To add to that statement the food that is quick which is why I believe most people buy this food.
For many, that is the only type of food available in their neighborhood. Poorer neighborhoods have only fast-food chains or convenience-stores.
Fast-food chains offers mainly deep fried foods.
These convenience stores are the last stop in the food chain for wilted fresh vegetables and end-of-date canned goods.
Kamchak
February 20th, 2010
10:06 am
Happy to report Kamchak that the poor can buy low sodium loaf bread that has 25 mg of salt, zero cholesterol and only two grams of sugar per serving (Serving size two slices) at Kroger for the same price as Kroger’s regular salt-loaded loaf bread that has 210 mg of sodium, zero cholesterol and 3 grams of sugar per serving(Serving size “one slice”).
That would be great if Kroger would open some grocery stores in the poorer neighborhoods.
Granny Godzilla
February 20th, 2010
10:08 am
neo-carlinist
i assume all those “anti”-commenters are glad they have you to interpret for them. it’s a service i won’t subscibe to.
also, considering the long term cost benefit to our nation of a strong and healthy population, this is an excellent investment.
Tif
February 20th, 2010
10:15 am
Yawn.
Let’s invent a crisis or an epidemic so we can justify dispensing with a little more of our freedom to “fix” it.
ZZZZZZZZ.