Cheney wants Obama to fail against terrorists

The former veep doesn’t care if that means another successful terrorist strike kills thousands of Americans.
Cheney wants nothing more than to prove his dark, paranoid view of the world is right and that his penchant for torture was justified. He continues his criticism despite his own glaring failures — including pushing for the invasion of Iraq and allowing al-Qaida, and Osama, to regroup in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Still, on ABC’s “This Week” yesterday, Cheney made a rare admission. He acknowledged that members of the Bush administration disagreed with his harsh views on treatment of detainees. Indeed, Cheney lost more and more of those battles in the waning years of his tenure.

In his interview, Cheney presented himself as out of step with less hawkish members of the Bush administration on whether to release prisoners from Guantanamo or to preserve interrogation methods that the International Committee of the Red Cross called torture.

He recalled a meeting in the Roosevelt Room “where we had a major shootout” over whether to try captured terrorist suspects before military commissions or, as the Justice Department advocated at the time, in civilian courts.

“We never clearly or totally resolved those issues,” Cheney said. “These are tough questions, no doubt about it. You want my opinion, my view of what ought to happen, I think we have to treat it as a war.”

That’s why it’s such stunning hypocrisy for Cheney and other Republicans to criticize the Obama administration for its handling of the Nigerian undie-bomber. Eric Holder’s justice department is handling Abdulmutallab just like the Bush administration handled shoe-bombed Richard Reid.

Or as Joe Biden put it:

“Dick Cheney’s a fine fellow, but he is not entitled to rewrite history without it being challenged,” Biden said on “Meet the Press.” “I don’t know where he has been. Where was he the last four years of the last administration?”

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Moderate Line

February 15th, 2010
7:45 am

“That’s why it’s such stunning hypocrisy for Cheney and other Republicans to criticize the Obama administration for its handling of the Nigerian undie-bomber.”

You can’t call Cheney a hypocrite on this issue he has been fairly consistent. You can disagree with him and his methods.

Does Cheney and the Rep want Obama to fail. No more than the Dems wanted Bush to fail. There are always people who put their own interest before the countries interest. I see no reason to believe that the Republicans have anymore of these people than the Democrats. After listening to Democrats under Bush, I believe both sides have to many.

The real question is whether Cheney is right or wrong.

Peadawg

February 15th, 2010
7:51 am

“That’s why it’s such stunning hypocrisy for Cheney and other Republicans”

Your calling Republicans hypocrites? Do you really want to go there this Monday morning? “Does Cheney and the Rep want Obama to fail. No more than the Dems wanted Bush to fail.” I couldn’t have said it better myself.

kayaker 71

February 15th, 2010
7:52 am

Cheney wants Bozo to fail so thousands of Ameicans will be killed and Cheney will win an argument. That is about as stupid as it gets. Cheney might mean a lot of things to a lot of liberals but a more true American does not exist. Cynthia, you really believe that our former Vice President would like to see thousands of Americans die just so he could prove Bozo wrong? What logic!!!

deborahinAthens

February 15th, 2010
8:01 am

Another thing that made me so angry was when Cheney said that he approved the Obama administration’s surge in Afghanistan, then, with his trademark sneer, said he didn’t know what took so long! WHAT TOOK SO LONG!!!!!???? The Bush administration had eight years to take care of Afghanistan, yet they chose, for their own arcane reasons, to divert valuable American lives and resources to IRAQ. Cheney still continues to lie about the WMD in Iraq as justification. He then said that we got rid of a dangerous dictator in Iraq and now they have a democracy. Really? Does this Bozo not read the newspapers? He thinks that if he repeats lies, eventually they will become the truth. Biden was correct. Cheney is entitled to his opinion, he is not entitled to re-write history. One of the good things coming from this “showdown” was that one journalist pointed out that Cheney was a good opponent to fight in the media since his approval rating while in office and out of office, is lower than O.J. Simpson’s! One has to wonder why the media keep giving Cheney and Karl Rove, another useless piece of humanity, a forum for their lies. We the People saw through their lies and changed the players in Washington. I only wish now that the Democrats would show some backbone–get us out of Iraq, get the job done in Afghanistan, close Gitmo, and get our men and women home where they belong.

Turd Ferguson (The Original # 1 fan of Cynthia Tucker)

February 15th, 2010
8:01 am

Seem Biden wanted to re-write his own history.

Turd Ferguson (The Original # 1 fan of Cynthia Tucker)

February 15th, 2010
8:03 am

“One has to wonder why the media keep giving Cheney and Karl Rove, another useless piece of humanity, a forum for their lies”

Perhaps because they are not lying? Seems otherwise the “media” would be just causing problems for the annointed one St Barack Obama.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 15th, 2010
8:06 am

I respectfully suggest the invective against the former vice president is mis-aimed. Quite the contrary I believe VP Cheney would wish President Obama to succeed, but that he correctly sees the president inflicting on himself a serious of foolish wounds. It is hard to imagine a well-conceived Obama initiative – the world-wide apology tour (sure, that got us a lot of support from the Chinese and Russians and Iranians), the dithering over whether to try to win the war in Afghanistan, the re-investigation of CIA officers who defend the county. No, I think VP Cheney means the best in his criticism, but of course the think-skinned one is unlikely to embrace any well-aimed criticism.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 15th, 2010
8:08 am

Apologies, my note intended to type “thin-skinned One. Screwed up my own little joke there.

Bob

February 15th, 2010
8:08 am

Cynthia, a new pathetic low. Biden has lied and plagerized throughout his career. Biden and Obama were both against the surge before they were for it. And why do dems have a problem with George Bush intercepting cell phone calls from terrorists but no problem with Obama saying Americans should not expect privacy with cell phones and Obo wanting to eavesdrop without a warrant ? Bush tracking KSM, bad. Obo tracking Americans, no comment.

Cynthia exposed

February 15th, 2010
8:12 am

Cynthia was EXPOSED yesterday, so badly she could NOT respond, when it comes to her anti teacher bias.

Cynthia, if you don’t have an anti teacher bias, why did you mention ONLY teachers in regard to the cheating scandal yesterday, when the education editor at YOUR OWN PAPER, along with others, say the evidence shows that ADMINISTRATORS would be the ones most likely to have the time and access to the tests at those schools where cheating is the most severe.

Administrators have been sanctioned, HER OWN PAPER says it’s most likely administrators are guilty in the most extreme cases, yet she mentions ONLY teachers. No wonder she could NOT respond. Even if she DOES respond today, she won’t DIRECTLY answer the question as to why she referenced ONLY teachers, as she knows that will CONFIRM her bias.

archie

February 15th, 2010
8:14 am

Right on, Bob. Cynthia, you are ignorant.

kayaker 71

February 15th, 2010
8:29 am

I have little to no faith in someone who would take credit for something that he did not do. Biden said on Larry King the other night that Iraq and it’s progress, were one of the great accomplishments of the Obama administration. That said when he and Bozo were openly critical of Paetraus in his effort to manage our troops and our resources with a surge. You can’t vote against something in one breath and then say you were right in another. Pelosi and Reid openly stated that the “war is over”, stating that we had already lost. Wonder how that made our troops and their families feel? Biden is a flaming idiot, a snake and a loudmouth to boot. He lies, just like his boss and has no credibility.

Garfish

February 15th, 2010
8:32 am

I agree with Cheney every time I watch “24″.

Cheney claims that torture prevented a few 911 sequels. The details are classified for 50 years, though.

Now there seems to be a think-tank consensus that we won’t see, much less stop what’s coming. (No country for old men).

These could be the last days of civilization as we know it. It only takes one nuke on one city to end this great Eden we live in.

I re-read Genesis yesterday. After Eve ate the apple, God told her that she would suffer greatly-increased labor pains, and that she would desire only her wised-up and now-dominant husband.

That’s a form of torturing the sinner/terrorist named Eve, isn’t it? Hows that working for you, God? Now we’re a planet with 6 billion pagans and all we think about is sexting and sodomy.

Cheney must not have read Genesis.

Marine

February 15th, 2010
8:42 am

Kayaker, how many deferments should I have gone for to make me a “true American” like your hero Chaney? In you mind he took the right path and myself and those I served with didn’t? Interesting way to look at things.

Byron Mathison Kerr

February 15th, 2010
8:49 am

Regarding the shoe-bomber tried in civilian court being no big deal and the undie-bomber tried in civilian court being a big brouhaha…

I guess hypocrisy is considered irrelevant if it makes for effective partisan political theater, especially in a campaign year.

Van Jones

February 15th, 2010
9:00 am

Very weak column. Didn’t you win some sort of prize for being good at your job? Might want to try going back to those types of columns…

Former Reader

February 15th, 2010
9:05 am

No I know why I rarely read anything in the AJC!

Silverchief

February 15th, 2010
9:05 am

You state that Cheney doesn’t care if thousands die….you’re sick !!!

“The former veep doesn’t care if that means another successful terrorist strike kills thousands of Americans”

Wyomingdodger

February 15th, 2010
9:07 am

The fact that a hypocrite like TRICKY DICK-5 DEFERRALS-CHENEY (not1, not 2, not 3 not 4-BUT -5!!!!) still insists that the Iraq war was a noble endeavor , only serves to bolster the belief that this so- called American patriot is not playing with a full deck. During the height of Viet-Nam, this valiant and stalwart fellow chose to be stateside-5 TIMES!!!! If the man who obviously has NO COMPUNCTION- risking the lives of tens of thousands of American men and women for a COMPLETELY BOGUS WAR- had served his country-honorably, then -maybe, he would have a leg to stand on. But he didn’t, and he doesn’t. He is tilting at windmills. I don’t think too highly of Geo. W. Bush, but I do respect the fact that he has kept his mouth shut. He is probably sitting at home reflecting on the damage that his administration wreaked upon this country and the world. Most likely he is traumatized. Cheney, who lacks not only balls- but a conscience, should be ashamed of himself. Imagine the cry and uproar there would be if Obama had sent men and women to their deaths-based on a faulty premise!? Amazingly, incredibly-the architects of this debacle have been given a free pass. While thousands of families mourn the loss of loved ones-the fat cats who sent them to their graves are prospering-unfazed and unscathed. If Cheney is a hero to a certain, demented segment of the population- that’s just fine. They deserve him!

oldmac

February 15th, 2010
9:09 am

Quoting Biden is just laughable. He and Obie fought all things “Iraq” every step of the way yet now he has the gall to claim it as an achievement. Talk about re-writing history. What a creep.

Cheney is sort of the grown-up in the room. Think for a moment had that underwear bomber just been either a bit more competent or a bit more committed. We’d have had 80 or so dead passengers, pilots and innocent bystanders on the ground. Not to mention the impact to our weak economy. Anybody remember how after 9/11, the stock market went down 1000 point in 2-3 days? I guess some of you ACORN types would somehow be excited about “the man” getting his 401k tanked but try finding a job if the economy gets another panic? And on Xmas day no-less. Obie and his minions really downplayed what could have happened if that kid hadn’t choked.

Roger Johnson

February 15th, 2010
9:09 am

Obama is failing all by himself. It doesn’t matter what Cheney or anyone else thinks.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:10 am

Van Jones, If you don’t like my blog, you can certainly find another more to your liking.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:10 am

Kayaker 71, what did Biden and Obama vote against?

DHD

February 15th, 2010
9:11 am

It really doesn’t matter who wants Obama to fail. He is doing a wonderful job all by himself. After November, he’ll be a lame duck president.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:11 am

Archie, You may criticize me harshly, but you may not call me “ignorant.” If you continue, you’ll have to go to the muttonheads’ blog.

Call it like it is.

February 15th, 2010
9:11 am

Unreal, Pretty funny how you pick and chose what was stated by Biden and Cheney. Biden states he feels like something like 9/11 could never happen again, and Cheney feels it could. So Cynthia who is living in a dream world here?

Also I see how you fail to mention that Cheney stated that he feels it time for the “Don’t ask, Don’t tell thing get thrown out of the military. Even when Cheney states something you support, you can’t acknowledge it. Pitiful.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:13 am

Cynthia exposed, I didn’t respond yesterday because I was shoveling snow, reading to my child, and taking care of other weekend tasks. As far as my so-called bias, my mother was an excellent classroom schoolteacher for 40 years. And she called me yesterday (oh, yeah, that’s another thing I do on Sundays) to say she really like the column.

laterlaw

February 15th, 2010
9:15 am

there should be a constitutional amendment that both the president and vice president need to be veterans of the armed forces in order to hold office. i hate left wing nutcases that disrespect soldiers and think they are nothing but baby killers and i hate right wing loonbats that think nothing of sending a mother’s son or daughter into the line of fire to pay off debts to defense contractors.

American (Really born and raised here)

February 15th, 2010
9:16 am

Oh Yea! Obama’s plan is really working. He is the best leader ever. Awesome intellectual giant with another 300,000 forclosures expected this month. Commercial is just starting to foreclose now and job losses will really increase. Always someone elses fault, just like our leaders in congress and in business, in our local schools. Especially over the last 30 yrs that is what you get. No one is accountable. Things like integrity, honesty and dedication and owning up to a failure is a thing of the past. The 1st lady talking about childhood obesity, with no jobs and no homes I don’t think over eating will be an issue! Get real he should have pumped some money into some things that would have made a difference leadership is a rare quality and speeches do not make a great leader. How about some more prizes , Economic Comedy Medal.. LOL.

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:16 am

I agree 100% Cynthia. For years, how many times have we heard, regarding another attack, that ‘it’s not a matter of if, but of when?” Cheney would love to see the ‘when’ during Obama’s administration so that he can work more of his wicked and evil into this world by blaming the attack on Obama. I think his overall objective is to stoke fear, no surprise there.

Send Cheney to Prison

February 15th, 2010
9:16 am

He and all his neocon cronies belong in prison. Make it so….

resno2

February 15th, 2010
9:18 am

“He thinks that if he repeats lies, eventually they will become the truth”

Sounds a bit like our current guest living in the White House.

marco1122

February 15th, 2010
9:21 am

Ms. Tucker, Mr. Cheney simply wants the President to treat these killers as the enemy not as citizens due the same rights as us.

bart

February 15th, 2010
9:21 am

Great column…and sadly, all too true. Kayaker 71 and his right wing cronies are so full of hate and bigotry, they refues to see the truth.

Matt

February 15th, 2010
9:21 am

Wow, I’m just amazed by your journalistic acumen. A Republican wants a Democrat to fail?! Amazing! Never wouldn’ve thought of that one. I wonder, Cyndi, how many articles did you write saying that you wanted Bush to fail?

A True Patriot

February 15th, 2010
9:21 am

You know Tucker, most of your columns deal with Racism in one way or another and this is another example of your evil, slanted, racist and almost idolatry toward YOUR black, not qualified to be president. Some of the statements you make are so obviously made with the intent to incite your black brethern toward hatred of any body born white. Why don’t you and Jesse and Al form a triumvirate and travel around the country spewing your special brand of hatred……maybe then people, black and white, can see what you, Jesse and Al are all about.

walter

February 15th, 2010
9:22 am

Fortunately, the bulk of Americans do agree that Cheney is flat out full hot air. Cheney knows he completely screwed up by taking the President’s eye off the prize in Afghanistan in pursuit of oil for his friends at Haliburton. Iraq has turned into the ultimate recruiting tool for those who wish the U.S. and its allies and Osama’s network is survives and even thrives thanks to the mistakes of Cheney and Bush. Cheney has to re-write history so people will forget the failings of their administration and hope that people will somehow shift the blame to the Obama administration.

Given the hand that he was dealt, I think Obama and Biden have done a tremendous job. Republicans seem content to block any and all attempts to do what’s right for this country and all Americans to ensure they can simply blame him for not accomplishing much during his first term. Just as with starting the war in Iraq, this does nothing for the American people and will ultimately fail. You can’t keep playing politics with American lives and well being. The more Republicans keep playing that game, the quicker their demise.

I’m looking forward to the next 7 years of his term of Obama’s Presidency.

Bada Bing

February 15th, 2010
9:23 am

Bah Bah muttonhead, have you any wool? No, there is no wool, it has all been pulled over the liberals’ eyes.

quod erat demonstrandum

February 15th, 2010
9:24 am

If i received advice from someone with 7 more years of experience, I would investigate rather than ignore. or criticize. Biden is just showing his ignorance if he thinks Cheney has anything to gain from his appraisal of the Obama Administration. Decent is the highest form of patriotism, (or at least the left kept telling us during the last administration).

Anyway, the crotch commando should be tried in the military tradition, and then shot or hung. He deserves the long dirt nap wrapped in pig skin.

russ

February 15th, 2010
9:25 am

cynthia, I intended to make a point here, but the more of your blog I read I can see your head has beat me to it !!!!!

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:25 am

To A True Patriot: Your invective is childish; if you don’t have anything intelligent to add, why not just sit this one out?

Clean House 2010

February 15th, 2010
9:26 am

He already has failed. Can any of you hope and change morons provide a single example of success by this administration?

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:26 am

quod erat demonstrandum: I hope you meant ‘dissent.’

KMP

February 15th, 2010
9:27 am

kayaker71, you call our President “Bozo”!! If you want to get your point accross and have some of us on this forum to take you seriously – quit the name calling and identify individuals by their name and or title!

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:27 am

A True Patriot, Race was not mentioned in this post. Like many of my critics, you are “projecting,” as psychologists call it — accusing me of something you do yourself. If you cannot refrain from indulging in your race-obsession, you’ll have to go to the muttonheads’ blog.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:27 am

Matt. I never wanted Bush to fail.

CW

February 15th, 2010
9:28 am

hey CT, it’s not that Cheney wants Obama to fail, Obama IS FAILING!!!!! Why don’t you people wake up and smell the crap you elected.

John

February 15th, 2010
9:28 am

Wyomingdodger and others- I see a lot of tough guy name calling on a opaque blog with fake names. Nice.

Bob

February 15th, 2010
9:29 am

defermants had nothing to do with Biden lying and were no problem when it came to Clinton, in fact, Clinton “loathed” the military.

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
9:30 am

AJC WANTED BUSH TO FAIL
TUCKER WANTED BUSH TO FAIL
AJC WANTED BUSH TO FAIL
TUCKER WANTED BUSH TO FAIL

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:30 am

To clean house: I see some significant improvements: First, the war is being focused where the terrorists came from, as opposed to a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. Second, lobbyists have been banned from government advisory boards. Third, the discriminatory don’t ask, don’t tell legacy of injustice is on it’s way down. Fourth, there are actual competent individuals in charge of government programs and agencies. Fifth, the supreme court is beginning to look more like the make up of America. That’s five in a nutshell.

Bob

February 15th, 2010
9:32 am

Ctucker, when Bush wanted congress to enact tax cuts, did you want him to be successful or did you want him to fail.

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:32 am

David: Bush did fail. So do you now claim that since Cynthia wants Obama to succeed, that the chances of that are good?

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
9:32 am

AJC DID NOTHING BUT BASH BUSH FOR (8) LONG YEARS
AJC SO WANTED BUSH TO FAIL…
TUCKER WANTED AMERICA TO FAIL
BOOKMAN WANTED AMERICA TO FAIL

JD

February 15th, 2010
9:33 am

I agree with you Walter.

PatriotGames

February 15th, 2010
9:34 am

Small minds can only carp and criticize when tough men have to make tough decisions. It is easy for journalists such as yourself to sit back and bite at the heels of the men making life and death decisions every day that protect you in your cozy little cube in downtown Atlanta. If not for men such as Dick Cheney dedicating their lives to protect this country, your little downtown office would already be a hole in the ground. Is every decision been right? No. History will judge the overall score, but that is for future generations. The danger is that we may not have future generations with weak minded politicals like Joe Biden and amatuer speechmakers like Obama sitting in the executive office. That is the biggest danger of letting the intellectual children choose the president this last time, it taught the Republicans a lesson, but at what cost? We can only hope those that really govern this country know what they are doing and don’t let Biden/Obama do too much damage before putting a professional back in the office.

Markisthinking

February 15th, 2010
9:35 am

Great article Cynthia – the world and the leaders in it are changing. Cheney reflects a leader who is out of touch. The sad part is that so many of his beliefs resonates with Georgians. Coincidently, Georgia is so far behind in many areas including education, influence in Washington and employment opportunities. Good luck Cynthia – most of this will be solved over time as many who possess these attitudes are no longer with us.

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:37 am

Patriot Games, I find you comments nauseating, considering the thousands of our soldiers lives that were squandered by Bush and Cheney for their personal vendetta war in Iraq.

John

February 15th, 2010
9:37 am

Found this little tidbit in the ol’ electronic archives- no need to state the author. The far right and the far are so similar in their approaches.

“Criticizing President Bush in his presence? He is the president of the world’s leading democracy, not the emperor of Rome. Americans have a constitutional right to criticize their elected representatives without fear of imprisonment or death.”

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
9:38 am

Hey I want Obama to fail! This country is great enought to overcome his tenure. He is a progressive liberal liar! Why would anyone want someone like that succeed? Obama is a smooth talker and that is what progressive liberals produce. They have no values and no absolute truths. Progressive liberals will argue they do but they do not. I pray the conservatives will NOT become bipartisan with any of Obama’s policies. I want to monitor government but I do not want socialism.

The progressive liberals attack Sara Palin continuously and she is much better the Biden will ever be.

demwit

February 15th, 2010
9:39 am

Cynthia, like Biden and Obama, does have a way with puffery..

Peadawg

February 15th, 2010
9:40 am

“Matt. I never wanted Bush to fail.”

All you did was criticize Bush for 8 years. You never had anything good to say about him. This is what the Republicans are doing to Obama. So by your own definition, yes to did want Bush to fail. Bazinga!

Keith

February 15th, 2010
9:40 am

Markisthinking should look around next time he visits downtown Atlanta/Macon/Savannah/Columbus/Augusta if he wants to understand why Georgia is so far behind places like Minnesota for instance.

Drinking the koolaid...

February 15th, 2010
9:40 am

I’m amazed at how much time the AJC column staff gives Cheney…even Lukovich had a ‘toon on him the other week.

I’m no real big fan of the guy (or Obama for that matter)- I just think its funny how the left tries to keep Cheney relevant. I can name lots of other former politicians, or other Republicans that make Dems’ blood boil. What’s so funny about Cheney is how Dems, like Tucker, gripe about him when the guy really isn’t relevant any more.

Cheney’s opinion is no different than Carter’s: the view is easy from the cheap seats.

While CT and Bookman high five over how evil Cheney is I, and others I suspect, will look for a column on relevant topics

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
9:41 am

CT — Did you notice they put your column under the falcons category

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
9:44 am

Cynthia… I have watched you on “This Week” with your “Liberal Buddy” Stephoknothead! And I have to tell you… Cynthia.. You’re NO Cokie Roberts!

Kevin

February 15th, 2010
9:44 am

I don’t believe that Cheney wants Obama to fail. If Cheney did, why would he share his criticism?? He is trying to prod this President into realizing that this is not some college lecture hall.

I don’t believe Cheney is out of touch at all. This is a war against Islamic fundamentalists who want to see our citizens and soldiers killed. How can you treat that otherwise????

Truthhurts

February 15th, 2010
9:44 am

I can’t belive how nieve many of you are! You will believe anything! Good column CTucker! the truth hurts anyone filled with and fooled by lies!

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:45 am

Maybe Cheney will slip some day, and step off a plane in a country like Spain or the Netherlands, to go ‘duck hunting’ and be arrested and charged with war crimes. That would be an acceptable outcome.

George W. Bush

February 15th, 2010
9:46 am

Isnt it time for this guy to have another heart attack ?….keeping my finger crossed…maybe a stroke will shut him the hell up…

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:46 am

Williebkind, I think that may be my cousin Tim’s post

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:46 am

Williebkind, I think that may be my cousin Tim’s post

kanye east

February 15th, 2010
9:46 am

2 things Cynthia: teachers and their unions have aided in the destruction of the education system of this country (along with the Dept. of Education and dead-beat parents); and, Cheney should leave BHO alone; he’s failing nicely all by himself

Obamayourmama

February 15th, 2010
9:47 am

Most people want Obama and his admin to fail so that his socialist policies do not take affect. SO WHAT? As far as Cheny wanting Obama to fail on terrorism? I find it hard to believe that he wants thousands of troops and citizens killed to prove himself correct. It cracks me up that people like Tucker wanted Bush to fail at every turn. Now the shoe is on the other foot and we conservatives are painted as racists or “tea-bagging” idiots. You and your group of left elitists can not stop the revolution that is taking place and every day the President opens his mouth and gives another speach makes this revolution that much stronger.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:47 am

Thanks for the memories, John!

MAC

February 15th, 2010
9:47 am

Does Cheney want Obama to fail? It’s a two-pronged answer.

I believe Cheney is genuinely concerned that the current administration’s policies are too lenient and wants to force the debate to examine and adjust the policies in favor of a harder-line approach. In that sense, I believe Cheney has the country’s best interests at heart and truly wants Obama to succeed in preventing another attack.

Now, does he want Obama and his general policies to be re-elected to a second term? No, in that sense, he wants Obama to fail as do 55% (and growing) of the rest of the country.

Wyomingdodger

February 15th, 2010
9:48 am

@John-was anything that I said untrue?

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:49 am

Cynthia lied. Soldiers died.

Jim Sutherland

February 15th, 2010
9:49 am

Apparently Ms. Tucker missed Cheney slipping when trying to mention Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, he said, “Don Mullen” then quickly corrected himself. To me it is far more telling that this man who is awash in conflict of interest between the private sector of war and the military, between industry and government, confuses the Admiral with the Goldman Sachs executive.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
9:50 am

@ Williebkind: If Obama is a liar, what were Bush and Cheney?? If the neo-cons were so intent on protecting the nation, why was notice DENIED by the Bush Administration about the Al Ouida threat passed to the by Richard Clarke and the CLINTON Administration? Wht was the bin Laden family allowed safe passage under PRESIDENTIAL EDICT when US airspace was SHUT DOWN? Why wasn’t OBL captured under the Bush Adfminstration when Daddy Bush and the bin Ladens served TOGETHER on the bBoard of Directors of the Carlyle Group? Why was Arbusto, Bush’s oil exploration firm, FUNDED by the bin Ladens?

The liars went to WAR under false pretenses….and you call President OBAMA a liar?? Please rethink your perspective……..

No one has to attack Sarah Palin; she’s shown the nation the type of LEADER she is: one that ABDICATES when things are difficult! It’s being shown that TODD PALIN was the one creating policy for Alaska, NOT Sarah!!

I’d rather have VP Biden than Sorry Sarah ANY DAY!!

BPJ

February 15th, 2010
9:50 am

Remember the video of Republicans jumping up and down and cheering when the Olympic bid of an AMERICAN city (Chicago) lost? Just because it’s Obama’s hometown. For a perspective on just how far Republicans have strayed, try to imagine Ronald Reagan doing that.

Garfish

February 15th, 2010
9:50 am

I’m curious, Cynthia Tucker, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read to form the basis of your opinion on the issues of the day before you were tapped to do this blog?

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:50 am

“That’s why it’s such stunning hypocrisy for Cheney and other Republicans to criticize the Obama administration for its handling of the Nigerian undie-bomber. Eric Holder’s justice department is handling Abdulmutallab just like the Bush administration handled shoe-bombed Richard Reid.”

Huh, if Cheney and the GOP are hypocrites, then that must make you and the democrats, mentally retarded.

Oh, and Bush never once wanted to put KSM or any other terrorist on trial at the site of Ground Zero.

mike

February 15th, 2010
9:51 am

Cynthia, you did wrongly accuse teachers of altering the test answer sheets.
It is o.k. to admit that you should have focused on the school administrators. It would actually give you some credibility to admit it.
My wife has been ateacher for 21 years and says she has never altered a test score. She says teachers do not keep the scoring papers long enough to do that, it has to be in the front office.

WHAT?

February 15th, 2010
9:51 am

The headline of this article has got to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read by a person that is calling themself a journalist. Cheney does not want Obama to fail against the terrorist he is simply pointing out the fact that he is failing against them. These people have got to be dealt with in a harsh unforgiving manner and Obama nor Holder with their Mr. Nice Guy BS understand this. IGNORANT JUST IGNORANT!

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:51 am

“you’ll have to go to the muttonheads’ blog.”

Cynthia, who is this muttonhead you consistently refer to when people call you out?

John

February 15th, 2010
9:52 am

I am a “non liberal” that very much wishes Obama to succeed. He is the President of the US elected by the majority of the people. He should be treated with respect even when you “hate” his policies. Separate the two. Non liberals should absolutely use this as an opportunity to rise above.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
9:52 am

Why does “This Week” always have 3 Liberals and 2 Conservatives on the Round Table discussion. Always!

JustMe

February 15th, 2010
9:53 am

You can’t call Cheney a hypocrite on this issue he has been fairly consistent.

Oh BS. That’s a cop out. Being a hypocrite has nothing to do with being consistent. If you criticize one person for something when you yourself have done the exact same thing that’s being a hypocrite. And there was no difference in the way the Bush administration handled Richard Reid and the way the Obama administration is handling the underwear bomber, so since Cheney is criticizing them for their handling of that when the Bush administration did the exact same thing, that is hypocrisy.

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:53 am

Hey Cynthia, I, like many conservatives, want Obama to fail. I want his policies that are ruining the country to fail. I want his socialistic mentality to fail.

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
9:53 am

Hey change the subject but it is out now, NO CLIMATE WARMING. Where is Al Gore another progressive liberal liar! He should be charged and convicted of luring feeble minded liberals into this scandal.

DAP

February 15th, 2010
9:53 am

What? Is Obama too big to fail?

You have to understand that in Cheney’s view, an Obama failure means we prevent terrorist attacks, jobs are created and the economy turns around.

Right or wrong, he thinks that if Obama is successful in his efforts, our country is at risk, and will continue to be mired in recession.

So, of course he wants Obama to fail. It’s because he loves his country.

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:54 am

“He should be treated with respect even when you “hate” his policies.”

Uh……I guess liberals didn’t get that message for 8 years.

Road Scholar

February 15th, 2010
9:54 am

laterlaw: But I thought that the Constitution was almighty? All you conserves want nothing more than to add amendments for military service, must pay taxes to vote, etc. The world/America just doesn’t meet your narrow minded views…bless your hearts!

If you do not like what Ms Tucker writes, why do you even read it?!

Cheney, like ya’ll, are control freaks!

Walter is an idiot

February 15th, 2010
9:54 am

No matter the hand he was dealt, Obama has done a horrible job (Biden is only along for the ride). Instead of coming up with ideas and solutions to deal with unemployment and the tanking economy, he’s spent most if not all of his political capital on forcing a Draconian health-care initiative down the public’s throat that he claims is the only way for the economy to improve.

The economy and unemployment are continuing to get worse precisely because of Obama’s initiatives that have driven the budget deficit further and further into the ionosphere. The man is dangerous because he truly believes that this is what is best for the country, and nothing could be further from the truth. Obama’s idiocy just barely trumps Walter’s.

Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired

February 15th, 2010
9:54 am

Funny how Chaney had 8 years in the White House and with all of his war mongering and postering could not control the terriorists nor find Bin Laden. It is simply not possible because there are way too many exposures. However, his former cronies at Haliburton definitely made out quite okay financially.

I just wish both sides would stop grandstanding and accomplish some meaniful for the country. However, the majority of the American voters are too caught up in voting against someone and a political party as oppose to voting for someone that will be willing to stand up against the status quo. People…oh People…the vast majority of elected officials in Washington are millionaires and they don’t have to personally worry about affordable healthcare, retirement, when there is an economic downturn, etc. They made sure that they voted and approved those provisions for themselves which comes out of our tax dollars. There needs to be term limits for all of the congressional positions. WAKE UP!!!!!

Muttonhead

February 15th, 2010
9:55 am

Uh, I’m getting a lot of new people commenting on my blog. When I ask them WTF, they say that this blog sent them to me. So I’m asking you. WTF?

My blog is about the angst of trying to hold on th 16 when you’re 49. We don’t need no political pundits. We need Peter Pans. Please stop sending wonks to me, whoever you are, Cynthia Tucker.

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:55 am

Williebkind

YEP!!!!!! GREAT POINT!!!!!!!

Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:55 am

Oh, no, mike. You are quite wrong. Please read back the sentence where I said teachers altered the test sheets.

Made Up Quotes by AJC editorialists

February 15th, 2010
9:55 am

CT,

Where exactly did former VP Dick Cheney say he wanted Obama to fail against terrorists? Can you link a quote?

You are putting words in his mouth. Cheap tricks don’t = journalism even on an editorial page.

Even when republicans say they want President Obama to “fail” it is in the context of not wanting him to succeed in driving us further into debt, or undermining our military in their mission by tying their hands with unprecedented and frankly silly rules of engagement. It is called having a genuine disagreement on the actions our Executive is taking.

Of course the icing on the cake is your second grade retorts to the taunting of some posters. If your delecate sensitivities are too injured by responses to your blog you should probably consider another line of work.

Moderate Line

February 15th, 2010
9:55 am

Archie, You may criticize me harshly, but you may not call me “ignorant.” If you continue, you’ll have to go to the muttonheads’ blog.
Once someone starts calling people names in an argument, the argument digresses into an exchange of insults. Hypocrite – wishing America to fail.

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:56 am

“If you do not like what Ms Tucker writes, why do you even read it?!”

Easy, because for over 15 years, the people of Atlanta had to sit back and take her hate filled columns about evil white people etc… without being able to respond.

Paybacks a beast.

Tommy

February 15th, 2010
9:56 am

Ms. Tucker by not working on the economy for over a year with unemployment rates at 10% and by a continual foring of his on agenda of health care Obama will fail by himself. Obama spent his first year is office ignoring the economy of the nation, the workers, in fact he made it work by these stupid stimulas bills. All he wants to do if force an issue so he can say “Look what I did” he is that kind of guy. A look a me, he reminds me of T.O. he should have went is to rap music. He is a terrible leader. No one has to help him fail he is doing a fine job himself.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:57 am

mike, here’s the sentence from my column: “Georgia’s public schools are currently enmeshed in a cheating scandal, in which adults are suspected of changing answers on the Criterion-Referenced Competency Test to raise the scores that are used to measure a school’s academic performance.” It very clearly says “adults are suspected of changing answers”

You asked

February 15th, 2010
9:58 am

Swampdog – “Why does “This Week” always have 3 Liberals and 2 Conservatives on the Round Table discussion. Always!”

A. The little known Liberal conservation programs. Now that Air America is bankrupt they will need to up the ration to 4 libs to every 2 conservatives.

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
9:58 am

Walter is an idiot: Since your claim is contrary to the published facts of late, please cite specific examples of how the economy and unemployment are getting worse (some numbers and their substantiation, please).

chris

February 15th, 2010
9:58 am

It seems Obama and Biden opposed everything President Bush did in office to indicate they wanted him to fail. Its amazing when the shoe is on the other foot how the Dems scream and squeel like scalded cats. Obama didnt mind making election 2008 about George Bush. Its time we make election 2010 and 2012 about Barrack Obama and as the Johnny Cash song song I hope he and his party go down like a burning rain of fire.

guy

February 15th, 2010
9:58 am

Cynthia the spoon! Always stirring things up to fit her very liberal ideas.Can you imagine the protests if Bush had ordered more troops to Afghanistan?
At the same time,Bush,Chaney,Obama,or Biden aren’t anything to write home about! We need a real leader now! Where have you gone Harry Truman?

MG

February 15th, 2010
9:58 am

Ah, that tired logic once again. If you disagree with this administration, you’re not just disagreeing, you’re a murderous maniac. Well, the American electorate CAN think for itself, and will show that ability at the ballot box at the next opportunity.

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:58 am

ctucker

You have what most sane people call, the victim mentality. People like you blame anyone and everyone for their problems or other peoples problems. For instance, white people are to blame because some gang banger got 5 women pregnant.

Just saying.

Muttonhead

February 15th, 2010
9:59 am

Hold on to 16 as long as you can….changes comin’ ’round real soon make us women and men. (clap clap)

HDB

February 15th, 2010
9:59 am

@ Obamayourmama: ” …we conservatives are painted as racists or “tea-bagging” idiots.”

Not ALL of you fit that category….but the prepondernace of conservatives DO!! Why are the tea-baggers blindly going after Obama? Where were they when the nation was BUSHwhacked?? Where were conservatives when the Bush Administration took war spending OFF THE BOOKS…and increased the deficit into the TRILLIONS?? Didn’t SEE them protesting!! Didn’t see them in the streets!!

There are other methods that have yet to be tried versus just going to war! For those who love this nation, war should always be the FINAL alternative!! If we are attacked…let’s get ‘em….but let’s go after WHO we SHOULD…not just who we’re TOLD we should!! Just blindly going to war does NOTHING but lose the lives of those who’ve volunteered to DEFEND this nation. They SHOULD be given the nation’s BEST effort to PEACEFULLY solve international issues rather than letting them lose their lives over blind invective!!

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
9:59 am

George W. Bush, you don’t get to wish harm to Cheney on this site.

quod erat demonstrandum

February 15th, 2010
9:59 am

LA,

Reid plead guilty to all charges, he was never tried.

As a British subject, Reid might have had some legal standing. I do not know what treaties or other protocols existed between Britain and the US covering this type of incident.

LA

February 15th, 2010
10:00 am

ctucker

Clayton County almost lost it’s accreditation by an incompetent all black school board.

Yet……..you said nothing.

kaygeeone

February 15th, 2010
10:00 am

Just another example that C.Tucker is a RACIST.

Peadawg

February 15th, 2010
10:01 am

“George W. Bush, you don’t get to wish harm to Cheney on this site.”

But you do. You may not say it exactly, but we all know what you’re implying.

Jess

February 15th, 2010
10:01 am

And Cynthia was Bush’s number one cheerleader in the Iraq war. I remember all of the columns where she urged Americans to support our leaders and troops in this war.

So when she calls Cheney a hypocrite, this is something she knows a lot about.

LA

February 15th, 2010
10:01 am

“Not ALL of you fit that category….but the prepondernace of conservatives DO!!”

Like who?

Conservatives have never been a part of the KKK. Democrats have.

Robert Byrd, George Wallace and Bull Connor. All democrats.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:01 am

LA, As Joe Biden said about Cheney, you don’t get to re-write history: I write several columns criticizing the Clayton Co school board. BTW, your obsession with race has confined you to the muttonheads’ blog. You’re off this one.

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
10:02 am

kaygeeone: You’re now projecting, too. I hope your post is removed.

Brian

February 15th, 2010
10:02 am

Ms. Tucker, rather than showing your disgust for Republicans in this article (and all that you post) maybe you should read this blog and notice how many people in Atlanta want to see YOU fail. How about trying to be a journalist (something you are alleged to be educated in) and be an equal opportunity offender.

JMC

February 15th, 2010
10:02 am

It’s not a matter of whether Obama will fail. It’s a matter of when. Cheney is just warning us. Cynthia, we all know that you wanted Bush to fail. You hypocrite.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:02 am

LA

February 15th, 2010
9:56 am
“If you do not like what Ms Tucker writes, why do you even read it?!”

Easy, because for over 15 years, the people of Atlanta had to sit back and take her hate filled columns about evil white people etc… without being able to respond.

Paybacks a beast.
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Not true….if you wanted to respond, all you had to do PRIOR to the Internet age was WRITE a Letter to the Editor….as I’ve done countless times. You may NOT have gotten published…but you WERE read and possibly acknowledged!!

Wyomingdodger

February 15th, 2010
10:03 am

What’s behind door #1? A) Weapons of mass destruction. B) Spreading democracy throughout the Middle East C) Cartons of Viagra? D) What the hell-we’re already over there-tell ‘em ANYTHING!!

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:04 am

LA: Are you forgetting Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Ronald Reagan, Mississippi Governors…

Those that forget their history are doomed to repeat it!!

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
10:04 am

Relax people, we are now under 3 years until obozo packs up his unearned awards and speech videos of himself and goes home. Then we can go about putting America back together again. Funny how this whole hope and change thing has given people less of both than they had before. Try counting how many obozo bumper stickers you see today compared to a year ago.

Virtual

February 15th, 2010
10:05 am

Too late.

Obama has already failed.

Cynthia – you should begin your rants with:

This is what I think…

and you won’t catch so much heat.

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:08 am

My comment is awaiting moderation. Did I threaten someone? No. Did I use crude language? No.

I guess I shouldn’t have linked a competing newspaper for statistics on Georgia tax revenue. (Must be the website links.)

Del

February 15th, 2010
10:09 am

Cheny doesn’t care if thousands of American’s die…that’s a helluva of an accusation based on supposition. Certainly not reflective of professional journalism!

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:10 am

While the links await a judgement on the part of the AJC moderator:

Jimbob- Georgia tax revenues are down again in January and the unemployment rate is still up around 9.7% not including those who have given up or are underemployed: I’d cite sources but they are on hold because the moderator has to approve the links I added above…

This is not a successful economic campaign by the current administration

Ugahall

February 15th, 2010
10:10 am

Obama has already failed! You wanted The Bush administration to fail, What is the difference?

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:11 am

@ Huckabee: ” Then we can go about putting America back together again…”

Question: When Republicans take this nation down the wrong path, why don’t YOU protest?? Don’t get me wrong, there are moments where Democrats AND Republicans OVER REACH an agenda….and they BOTH need to be called out on it…..but it seems like Republicans BLINDLY followed Bush….when it’s evident that Bush took the nation down a path that we didn’t need to travel!! IMHO…..

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:12 am

Del, You nailed it. If you can’t find a conserviative behaving badly make stuff up. That seems to be Cynthia’s M.O. in this column. I guess now the Tea Party convention is over there is a lack of stupid populist quotes by local activists to fill the outrage of the day quota for liberal columnists.

WallyWally

February 15th, 2010
10:13 am

Wow. Wasted energy.

worthington

February 15th, 2010
10:14 am

Dick’s the toughest draft-dodger to ever come out of Wyoming……

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:15 am

HDB – there were plenty of Republicans complaining about large Bush and Congressional budgets and other disagreements. The myth of a monolithic conservative movement is just that – a myth.

As you said – those who don’t know their history…

jconservative

February 15th, 2010
10:16 am

Good column Cynthia. Folks are riled up. Even those who cannot debate but only call others names, are riled up. We need a little more of St. Augustine – “Here we speak evil of no one.”

I understand, I believe, Cheney and his motivation. The Bush administration was caught off guard by 9 -11. Please recall a news conference by Bush’s transition team after a session with Clinton’s NSC staff. The Bush people complained that all Clinton’s people talked about was bin Laden, whereas, the Bush people knew that an anti-missile system was what was needed to protect against a nuclear rocket from “rogue” states. And if you recall Bush immediately started talking about the need for an anti-missile system. It is really all they talked about in the national defense arena.

And then 9 – 11 happened. I do not believe Cheney has recovered from the experience. And then when Bush “fired” him in 2005 & cancelled most of the Cheney policies, stopping water boarding, calling for closing Gitmo, release of hundreds of Gitmo detainees, Scooter Libby, leaving Iraq, Cheney has had a hard time. His criticism is just as much a criticism of the last 4 years of Bush as of Obama.

And look, none of us have crystal balls that fortell the future. You make your best estimate on the data available. History may well prove Cheney is correct. History may well prove Cheney was correct and Bush was wrong. My problem with Cheney is that after he was out of Bush’s confidence in 2005, and out of government since Jan 2009, his data may well be out of date.

But I would disagree that Cheney wants Obama to fail. That would make him a traitor to his country and nothing in his history suggest that.

John

February 15th, 2010
10:16 am

February before the Iraq invasion an Oman representative flew to the US to straight up tell the administration that Iraq had no w of md. This went on deaf ears. Oman was the second country to call the US (after Canada) after 9-11. The prior administration turned deaf ears to anything that would harm its agenda. The current administration is largely doing the same. They want us in a frenzy and politicians love to play into our fear and hate. Time to wise up and go back to walking tall.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:17 am

‘”If you can’t find a conservative behaving badly……

Don’t have to look TOO hard…..I can start with John Boehner, Mitch McConnell…and the GOP leadership…and take it to the grass roots here!! Add Dick Cheney to the mix…with a sprinkling of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn BEck, Sean Hannity, Mike Huckabee…et. al……..

pat

February 15th, 2010
10:17 am

Obama doesn’t need cheney’s help, he’s faling plenty well on his own.

Read your BIBLE

February 15th, 2010
10:18 am

“I re-read Genesis yesterday. After Eve ate the apple”

Garfish, please point me to this in the bible. I can’t seem to find it in mine.

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:18 am

WallyWally – It isn’t too bad. Just imagine if all these folks had to take the time to think about what they wanted to write. Type it out on an old IBM selectric, Put it in an envelope and add a stamp. Then someone at the AJC would have to get it from the mailroom to Cynthia’s desk. She’d have to write a return letter to tell people they were banished to the Muttonhead letter box.

Now this convenient quick format allows any idiot to post their unpolished thoughts in real time and Cynthia to post a 2nd grade retort just as fast.

Progress!

Diehard

February 15th, 2010
10:18 am

She’s at it again, friends. She’s adding to her file of documents to attach to that application for Chief Apologist for the President. One question: has anyone ever seen Cynthia Tucker and Cynthia McKinney in the same room? (Maybe that’s a Freudian Fantasy for this president)

TnGelding

February 15th, 2010
10:19 am

Cheney and how many others? It was good to hear him admit the Bush administration struggled with the same issues. Why is the media giving this discredited man a forum? Even Bush stopped listening to him. Biden made so many incoherent statements I lost count of them. Maybe he had better take his SS benefits and government pension and ride off into the sunset.

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
10:19 am

HDB, perhaps you should dig back a little. I’ve never made a claim for Bush or his policies, the final 4 years of his occupation of the White House were nothing I was proud of. However, this President is making those 4 years look wonderful in comparision. I for one am sick of hearing both sides blame each other, but if obama is going to be a leader then he needs to lead and quit giving us lip service and pretty speeches that are full of lies and half-truths. Right now he appears to be a little boy sitting at a big mans desk. And after 13 months on the job the training should be over.

Moderate Line

February 15th, 2010
10:21 am

You can’t call Cheney a hypocrite on this issue he has been fairly consistent.

Oh BS. That’s a cop out. Being a hypocrite has nothing to do with being consistent. If you criticize one person for something when you yourself have done the exact same thing that’s being a hypocrite. And there was no difference in the way the Bush administration handled Richard Reid and the way the Obama administration is handling the underwear bomber, so since Cheney is criticizing them for their handling of that when the Bush administration did the exact same thing, that is hypocrisy.

I would agree that your definition of hypocrite is correct. However, what did Cheney do? He did not do anything. Bush did something and he disagreed with it. Based on your application of the definition of hypocrite. If I am part of group that does something I disagree with and then I criticize another group for doing something I disagree with then I am a hypocrite.

The Republican you could make that argument that are hypocrites. However, making the charge that Republicans are hypocrites only highlights the similarities between Bush and Obama’s policy.

Does this help the Dem? This makes much of the Democrats criticism of Bush look political.

Do Republicans look like hypocrites? Yes. Do the Democrats look like hypocrites? Yes

I can write a million words on how Republicans and Democrats are hypocrites. Accusing both sides of being hypocrites moves us no further along on the issue.

Mike

February 15th, 2010
10:21 am

Quote: *Archie, You may criticize me harshly, but you may not call me “ignorant.”*

Guess the truth struck a nerve, huh?

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:22 am

@ youasked: If that were the case, WHY weren’t they as prominent as the neo-cons that led the nation…and the liberals that protested against Bush?? It was stated that those who were against the Bush Administration were ANTI-AMERICAN….and only liberals were painted in that light!!

Look, dissent is AMERICAN…and I have NO PROBLEM of those dissenting against the Obama Adminsitration on philosophical grounds…..but there are OTHER invectives at play here….other than policy!! It took 43 other Presidents to get this nation in the fix that we’re in….one man can NOT repair what 43 others have done in ONE YEAR +!!!

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:22 am

Still waiting for the actual quote where Dick Cheney says he want’s Obama to fail against Terrorists…

Cynthia? Hello?

Mr. Right

February 15th, 2010
10:23 am

I never liked Hillery Clinton to much but compared to Obama she comes across as being intelligent !

vedette

February 15th, 2010
10:23 am

Of course conservatives want Obama to fail. For them, politics is a zero-sum game. The way they see it, any success by him comes at their expense. They don’t see the world in win-win terms. It’s only win-lose.

That’s why they’re fighting him on every front. Health insurance is a huge problem, but rather than offer alternatives, they just try to stonewall. Financial reform is a must if we’re ever going to get out of this mess, but again, instead of saying, “How about we try this?” They deny it’s a problem and try to block him. It doesn’t matter whether it’s bad for the country.

They do not care if the country collapses or if their fellow Americans suffer. They just want to win politically, and they can only do that if Obama and the Democrats fail.

stw

February 15th, 2010
10:24 am

CT: Are you sure you’re not Rev. Wright in drag ??

NoMoreAmericanThanAnyoneElse

February 15th, 2010
10:25 am

CT you really stepped in it this time. I suppose you were quite aware of that when you started to write a column criticizing Dick Cheney. it is amusing (as opposed to completely insulting) for the likes of “Kayacker71″ to believe that he has the wisdom and the authority to dictate who is and who is not a “true American” If I were to inform him that in fact, by law, he himself is no more of a “true American” than President Obama (I’m sure he’s a Birther…) or even Louis Farrakhan, he would sure roll over and drown. I served my country, and I, like many of my fellow Veterans (..unlike Dick Cheney…) proudly voted for Obama, and stand completely by my vote. Bush worked eight long hard years to completely screw things up for us, and I would never have any reasonable expectation that it would be fixed by now. It is quite funny and disengenuous for the wing-nuts to crow and celebrate over the fact that Obama hasn’t fixed it in one year. I’m completely with you on your column. I have never, ever seen any indication whatsoever that Dick Cheney has the slightest concern over the lives of the troops that he helped needlessly send into harm’s way, or for the general welfare of the Nation as a whole. He has only proven, and proven quite well that his only concern is for his own interest and his oil interest. Dick Cheney, when asked why he didn’t serve in the military when he got the call, said that had “other priorities, Mr Cheney, why were you given the option to excercise these “other priorities” ? When my uncle Charles got the call, he surely had other priorties as well; two twin baby daughters. He wasn’t allowed to excercise his option. I’m sure that he would’ve loved to have been able to watch them grow up into the talented professional women that they are today. I do know that they would give anything to be able to meet their Father. Dick Cheney, “Kayaker71″, “TrueAmerican”, and all of you other Cheney apologist KM(American)A!!

Del

February 15th, 2010
10:25 am

You asked,

As scarce as they are if you looked hard enough you may find a conservative op-ed journalist making an equally unprofessional assertion but Ms. Tuckers supposition on Cheny goes way over the top. She fails to acknowledge that Cheny may just really feel that Obama is leaving us vulnerable. Many have that concern. Interesting that Joe Biden commented that victory in Iraq will be viewed as a great achievement for the Obama administration. I wonder how the left-wing bloggers feel about that statement. Almost lends credibility to GWB’s decision, which gets almost daily scorn.

Michael

February 15th, 2010
10:26 am

Anyone, I repeat ANYONE, who has even one thought that Cheney and his lunatic family and friends, wishes for anything other than the Obama administration to fail is as insane as Cheney is, or just plain stupid. I can see from many of the comments on this article that there’s a whole lotta stupid and insane people reading the paper recently.

At least Bush has had the courtesy to keep his dumb mouth closed (for the most part) since he left office. Unfortunately Cheney is so filled with hate and the desire make future generations look back and say that the administration he was basically the head of did a good job, rather than messed up the whole country (if not the whole world) for 8 years and many more to come with their incompetence and crookedness. The Bush clan left in disgrace and Cheney can’t stand it. Who knows, maybe he’s just mad because like most former presidents and vice presidents companies usually clammer to get them on their boards. I haven’t heard about many companies beating Georgy boy’s or Dicky boy’s doors down yet.

I don’t wish for Cheney to fail. But I sure wish his pacemaker would take a nice long time out.

singado2000

February 15th, 2010
10:27 am

The Democrats went along with Bush WAY TOO MANY TIMES!!! At least half of them voted to against Irak. However, the Republicans WANT OBAMA TO FAIL AND DON’T CARE IF BY DOING SO OUR COUNTRY GOES INTO ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION.

Cheney is a coward who is afraid of facing Rachel Maddow!!! Cheney is a disgusting human being!!!

JackLackey

February 15th, 2010
10:27 am

I’m not worried about Cheney. I’m worried about having the most indecisive bumbler in the history of the Presidency in charge of things RIGHT NOW.

2012 can’t get here soon enough. A landslide of monumental proportion is in the making. The Republicans could roll out Dan Quayle and defeat what is ALREADY a lame-duck Prez. When Brown won in Mass (the most liberal state in the Union) it was a referendum on Obama. He became a lame-duck President that very day.

Lots of people voted for Obama because it made them feel good about THEMSELVES at the time. Now that the honeymoon is over and reality has set in, they clearly see a devastating err in judgement. To compare this President to Jimmy Carter (formerly known as “the worst President of ALL TIME”) is an insult to Mr.Carter.

We are NOW witnessing the bumbling ineptitude of THE WORST PRESIDENCY OF ALL TIME, as it unfolds. Lawd help us all…

Cynthia or Sharpton

February 15th, 2010
10:27 am

Lets see one more article by Cynthia stating that Obama and his lacky gang can’t be criticized. At least for a change she didn’t accuse someone of being racist.

Anna

February 15th, 2010
10:27 am

Cynthia, for the record, if your opening line had been written by a conservative about Biden, there would be an uproar and outcry from the left. As usual, you throw bombs with little reason or evidence to back them up. Personally, I think Obama is the one who doesn’t care if we lose thousands of lives to terrorist attacks to prove his point. You know, the one about Bush and Cheney being wrong – but it is becoming clearer and clearer that they weren’t wrong and that the lefties were and are. Obama’s transparency is becoming clearer and clearer – this emperor has no clothes. If he wants to be a European socialist – I wish he would go live in Europe and leave America alone. The question now is whether we can withstand his assault on America. Obama is more dangerous than the terrorists.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:28 am

@ Huckabee: The problem is that too many of your ilk WERE blindly following the Bush Administration…..those who protested against his policies were called ANTI-AMERICAN!! There were a lesser amount of conservataives calling Bush out than there were liberals and moderates!!

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
10:28 am

I think Dick Cheney is one of the most intelligent people I have ever heard speak. Compared to intelligence, Obama is lacking. He can talk but talk is cheap–well not in Obama’s case. His talk cost Trillions!

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:28 am

HDB – lets not forget the helping hand the Democratic congress gave the failure of the Mortgage and banking industries.

I disagree with the way the current administration is trying to address the current crisis. In fact I think they are making it worse by taking on more debt than we can possibly pay off in three generations. How’s that for a philisophical disagreement?

As far as the rest of your statements – you are painting with a broad brush. Not all conservatives think alike. If you have trouble with why fiscal conservatives got less press than the social conservatives than ask the AJC and other media outlets.

Roja

February 15th, 2010
10:28 am

But I guess it is OK for Bo-bama to re-write history?? Biden says that “H” is the reason for success in Iraq. Talk about re-writing history, Bi and H BOTH voted against the surge that turned Iraq around. now THEY say THEY are responsible???? ALso, the withdrawal plan was agrred on by the Iraquis BEFORE Bush left office and yet H and Bi take the credit.

I hoped that when you left the AJC, that would be the last time your biased lies would appear in this fish wrapper……….

worthington

February 15th, 2010
10:30 am

the haliburton hand-job asked for and received five deferments, we have the Vietnam War to thank for Liz Cheney…

Mr. Right

February 15th, 2010
10:30 am

HDB—- You are right but the policies of this president is just making things worse. For example, the national debt is skyrocketing and there is no way we can sustain that!

Chess

February 15th, 2010
10:30 am

Cynthia this article is true. It is unfortunate you have to try and reason with the condescending. bloggers who don’t understand that their current opinion was a eight year creation by Cheney himself.

You asked

February 15th, 2010
10:31 am

I am always awed at the ability of bloggers to read minds. (to be read with dripping sarcasm)

James

February 15th, 2010
10:32 am

What anyone might “want” is irrelevant because this administration is already a huge failure! Upcoming elections will prove this!

killerJ

February 15th, 2010
10:35 am

you don,t need chainey for that,he,s doing just fine himself.

Chess

February 15th, 2010
10:36 am

No WMD = Cheney

Cheney = Inside Job

vedette

February 15th, 2010
10:37 am

@Rosa: The surge has not succeeded, not truly. It’s still a timebomb. We just started paying people not to kill us, but the ethnic, tribal and religious divides still exist. Once we’re drawn down to a certain point, it’s all going to erupt again.

You might be able to bring democracy to a nation of Kurds. You might be able to bring democracy to a nation of Shi’ites. Or you might be able to bring democracy to a nation of Sunnis. But you cannot bring democracy to a nation of Kurds, Shi’ites, and Sunnis.

Bubba

February 15th, 2010
10:37 am

Wait a minute, you also wrote this:

‘That suggests to me those teachers don’t have much faith in their students’ ability to learn or their own ability to teach them. It’s no wonder, then, some of those teachers might resort to cheating to raise test scores.’

Maddawg

February 15th, 2010
10:38 am

We don’t need Cheney nor anyone else to want Obama to fail. Obama has failed already. He’s a liar and a socialist and he also is NOT a Christian as he professes to be (he has denied Jesus Christ being the only way of salvation and supports an ideology and agenda that completely opposes the principles and precepts of Christianity).

Matt

February 15th, 2010
10:38 am

Come on Cynthia. Give me a break. I think you WANT Cheney to want Obama to fail. I’ve never gotten that sense from him.

Roja

February 15th, 2010
10:40 am

Why do you neo-libs keep taling about Bush “doubling the deficit” his 8 years?? 2 of “his years” the Dems were in control of Congress and therefore were responsible for the BUDGET and the DEBT incurred or have you forgotten that the Congress controls the national Budget and National Debt?? In his first year, H set the record (with the help of his fellow libs in Congress) for the LARGEST DEFICIT IN HISTORY for the first year of a Presidency. In two years, his deficit is what Bush reached in 5 years!!! By the end of H’s first term, he will have EXCEEDED Bush’s 6-years deficit and maybe even the Dems 2 years during the Bush years, too.

I love the way H blames Bush for everything. Even though it took SIX years for the price of oil to reach $70 a barrel under Bush/Cheney, it took just 11 months for it to go from $70 up to $140 under Pelosi/Reid. That is what tipped the economy — $4 gas precipitated by the Dems. Also the housing bubble BURST under Pelosi/Reid, the financial market crashed under Pelosi/Reid, unemployment went from 6% under Bush and the Repubs but jumped to 10.2 AFTER Pelosi/Reid took over the nation’s budget/economy and H took the White House. But it was Bush’s fault????

Every day H lies and troops die. I voted for the man because he was anti-war and was going to end “Bush’s illegal war”. Suddenly under H it is no longer an illegal war but H’s “success story”. If it was illegal in 2008, it is now!!!

Get Real

February 15th, 2010
10:42 am

I don’t think Cheney or anyone else wants Obama to fail. But, he is a failure because of his own doings! He is a know it all socialist with his own agenda and will not listen to other’s opinions and views. Now his Soialist Agenda…well I hope everyone wants that to fail. This man had absolutely no credentials and track record to ever become president!

zeke

February 15th, 2010
10:42 am

This is where you idiot socialists are so wrong! The Conservatives and Republicans do not want the country to fail, ONLY THE SOCIALIST, EVEN COMMUNIST, POLICIES OF THIS FOOL MUST FAIL! E. HOLDER IS AN IDIOT! BIDEN, WHO KNOWS? PELOSI AND REID FOR SURE! WE MUST REIN IN ALL THE SOCIALIST WELFARE ENTITLEMENTS AND SPENDING! REPEAL THE 17TH AMENDMENT! ENFORCE THE 10TH AMENDMENT AND ALL OTHERS MANDATING STATE’S RIGHTS! THE CONSTITUTION WAS INTENTIONALLY WRITTEN TO LIMIT THE FED’L GOVERNMENT AND MUST BE ENFORCED THROUGH THE COURTS OR THROUGH THE LEGAL MEANS AFFORDED BY THE DOCUMENTS THAT FOUNDED THE COUNTRY! THE MAIN ONE GUARANTEED ANY OF THE ORIGINAL 13 STATES COULD LEAVE ANY TIME THEY DESIRED! THAT WAS BROKEN BY LINCOLN AND MUST BE RE-INSTITUTED!

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:43 am

@ youasked: The FISCAL conservatives always wanted to fund THEIR PET PROJECTS rather than looking at what was in the best interest of the nation. Fiscal conservatives always pushed tax cuts….when they DIDN’T work for everyone! Please explain how you can CUT taxes during WARTIME!!?? Every wartime President raised taxes to pay for the effort….and that spending put this nation back on sound, economic footing!! The SOCIAL conservatives wish to take this nation back to the 15th Century where people couldn’t think for themselves….and the CHURCH was the guiding principle! Don’t get me wrong…..much of our common law was based on religious principles…..but this nation was NOT founded as a THEOCRACY….and that (along with a few other negatives) are what SOCIAL conservatives are espunding….and at a GREAT VOLUME!!

Conservatives always seem to blame the CRA for the housing bubble…..not true! All the CRA said was that banks had to lend in the communities in which they serve; there was NO mention that the clients had to be judged by differing credit standards!! That’s the lie that’s continually put forth by conservaatives. Yes, Glass-Steagall should NOT have been repealed…..but it was fiscal conservatives that put forth the idea of unbridled, laissez-faire economic policy…and look where we are now!!

@ Mr. Right: I see some things getting better….some are worse…but the question that should be asked is this: Why didn’t Bush RAISE taxes to fund the war?? This nation has ALWAYS been asked to sacrifice during wartime….and we WOULD have if required….but Bush told the nation to GO SHOPPING instead…with NO PROTEST from the now-evident “teabaggers”!!

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:43 am

zeke, you don’t get to call those with whom you disagree “idiots” on this site. I believe that sort of rhetoric is indulged on the muttonheads’ blog

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
10:44 am

Cheney has lots more depth that Obama. Obama is an empty suit with teleprompters!

squirrelly

February 15th, 2010
10:44 am

Cynthia Tucker logic:

OBAMA Black, Cynthia Black= OBAMA GOOD!
Cheney White= Cheney bad.

Pretty much sums it up.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:44 am

Yes, I did write that. And some might. But I didn’t accuse teachers in this scandal. We don’t know yet who changed the test scores

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:46 am

squirrelly, race is not under discussion in this thread. If you persisted in injecting race, you’ll have to go the muttonheads’ blog

Kent

February 15th, 2010
10:46 am

It’s always a dangerous and risky business attributing motive and intent to someone and our public discourse would be more civil and substantive if this tendency were resisted. It also smacks of the personal destruction politics I believe you, MS Tucker have deplored in the past. Let’s raise the dialog here and be more responsible in your issues advocacy journalism. Whether you agree with his positions or not, former VP Cheney has a long and distinguished record of serving his country and to impugn his motives and attribute the very worst of intent to him is unjustified and irresponsible partisan issue advocacy, not journalism. Seems like your new role “reporting” from the eye of the storm is not doing your journalistic objectivity any service.

mike

February 15th, 2010
10:46 am

Cynthia, I stand corrected. My apologies.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
10:47 am

Cynthia,… Please stay on the topic! We are talking Cheney vs Obama here!

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:48 am

@youasked: Conservatives have NUMEROUS media outlets: The Arizona Republic, Dallas Morning-News, Des Moines Register….talk radio, FOX…and I do check the out….but the problem that I have is that numerous conservative policies adversely affect me, people like me, my neighborhood……and they don’t think I exist! When THAT changes, then I can..AND WILL look at conservatives in a better light!!

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
10:48 am

hdb, you prove yourself to be like the rest of these bedwetters with your “ilk” comment. If my ilk includes those Americans who work hard, save a lot and don’t ask for handouts, I ‘m proud to stand among them. It’s your ilk wants my hard earned dollars to support more lazy, underachievers who milk my earnings for all they can so that they can have that ebt card recharged each month. If that’s what you believe in, then you are in the right line.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:48 am

yessir, you’re right, Swampdawg

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
10:48 am

stw

February 15th, 2010
10:49 am

CT: Haven’t seen any articles lately concerning the officers,etc. in the NAACP “misapplying” funds or accepting monies for “charities” they run that have been out of business for years or are these off limits ???

TMA

February 15th, 2010
10:50 am

Cynthia, you are a pathetic piece of a $#@% excuse for an editorial columnist. How you managed to win any sort of award for writing is totally beyond my ability to comprehend. Perhaps you won by doing something “under the table”. Biden and Obama trying to take credit for something they did not do and then slamming Cheney for something he IS entitled to take credit for. Typical Democrap behavior. Thank goodness midterms are in a few months.

“Change” is indeed coming.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
10:51 am

I bet Cynthia is a Sweetheart on the outside!

Garry Owen

February 15th, 2010
10:51 am

Of course many people want Obama to fail as in his policies to remake the USA into a socialist paradise where the government controls our lives and the Bill of Rights is in the trash! It is amazing Obama can get away with policies that would cause the Bush Administration to the investigated by Congress. By the way- where is the New York Times to spill the beans on all of Obama’s secret operations?

PatriotGames

February 15th, 2010
10:53 am

Whose is “the muttonhead” blog?

Michael

February 15th, 2010
10:53 am

Nick, You’re a cretinous, inbred redneck, Shouldn’t you be beating your wife or be outside removing some of the junk cars from the front yard of your single wide trailer. Watch out for poisonous snakes, or better yet pay them no mind.

TMA

February 15th, 2010
10:54 am

@Swampdawg – It is what is under the sheep’s clothing we are concerned about.

PJ

February 15th, 2010
10:54 am

Of course the obstructionist party of NO wants Obama to fail; the rampant inherent racism within the party would never allow them to root for his success. I hated Bush for Iraq and the incessant lies that he told throughout his presidency, but I ALWAYS rooted for him.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:55 am

Michael, You don’t get to call someone with whom you disagree “cretininous, inbred redneck” on this site.

stw

February 15th, 2010
10:56 am

TMA: I would imagine Cynthia winning her award was akin to J. Carter (not the second worst president in history thanks to Mr. Obama) and his nobel peace prize and Al Gore (inventor or internet amongst other accomplishments) world expert on global warming. I would deliver this in person however, I’m SNOWED in….

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
10:56 am

TMA, you’ve have to find somewhere to vent.

jimbob

February 15th, 2010
10:56 am

Tommy, you’re just not telling the truth. If it was a ‘do nothing’ affair, then nothing sure got a lot of Republicans up in arms and galvanized to work for the administration’s failure. The stimulus (something) is now starting to show some signs of working and now the Republican detractors can’t wait go show up at dedication ceremonies and ground breaking events to get their picture taken with the stimulus checks that they voted against. More lies doesn’t make your side in this argument.

PatriotGames

February 15th, 2010
10:56 am

Garry Owen- veteran of the ole 7th?

Joey

February 15th, 2010
10:56 am

“Cheney wants Obama to fail against terrorists.”
“The former veep doesn’t care if that means another successful terrorist strike kills thousands of Americans.”

Cynthia, these two statements by you are just wrong. I find it difficult to accept that you actually believe either statement. Cheney is not a very likable person, but to accuse him of not caring if a “terrorist strike kills thousands” is blatant dishonesty. Dishonesty that says more about you than it does about Cheney.

Michael

February 15th, 2010
10:57 am

Swampdawd: “Cheney has lots more depth that Obama”

Well, as I’ve always said, the insane can be extremely interesting people.

Jack

February 15th, 2010
10:58 am

A True Patriot – Bush/Cheney did fail. When his term started, he presided over a budget surplus of 240 billions dollars. When he left office, there was a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit . Two wars. One started with a lie. The other one without a true strategy. Just the fact. If you can stick to them.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
10:58 am

@ Huckabee: WHOA, there!! I go to work EVERY day, believe in hard work! I don’t want handOUTS…but HANDUPS!! Granted, there are many things wrong with the social safety net…but I believe that one needs to exist! As one who believes that education and hard work makes progress, we have many factes of commonality…..however, I do not believe in eliminating the social safety net and eliminating programs that have been proven to successfully get people out of poverty versus tax breaks for those of means…and who work to NOT pay taxes!!

stw

February 15th, 2010
11:00 am

CT:I believe your English professor would be none too pleased with the grammar in your last blog…

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:00 am

@squirrelly: WRONG, fella!! People voted for Obama because they were TIRED of the Bush direction; for many of us, we were LEFT OUT from progressing!! We weren’t Bush/Cheney cronies who prospered from the guise of war….KBR, Halliburton, Carlyle…et.al…..

Michael

February 15th, 2010
11:01 am

ctucker: “Michael, You don’t get to call someone with whom you disagree “cretininous, inbred redneck” on this site.”

Well, yes, yes I do, and I did. You see, I’m not as lenient and charitable toward fools and idiots are you are. I commend you for that, but I’ll just have to suffer along with my failings in that regard. :>)

Wyomingdodger

February 15th, 2010
11:05 am

@worthington- very nicely put :) !

NoBoma

February 15th, 2010
11:05 am

Let me get this straight C.Tucker….you say the former VP wants Oslama to fail?? I didn’t know he had succeeded yet!! He has to succeed first!!

Agnes

February 15th, 2010
11:06 am

2by6:
Reading you 11:01 caused an interest in your take on how the American Indian arrived in North America.

Dictionary Dot Com

February 15th, 2010
11:08 am

mut⋅ton⋅head [muht-n-hed]

–noun Informal.
a slow-witted, foolish, or stupid person; dolt.

Origin:
1795–1805;

… if the shoe fits

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
11:08 am

Survival of the fittest. There is no person born in this country who can not go to school, work hard and advance. The sad part of reality is as people have done the right thing through the years, they have been deemed “the lucky” and heard chants of “it’s not fair”. Then the bleeding hearts roll out in full forse and demand that the “lucky” take care of the “unlucky”. Only problem there is the choice of words. Substitute hardworker for lucky and lazy for unlucky, then you get a true picture of what happens in America today.

Mr. Right

February 15th, 2010
11:08 am

PJ– And we are really susposed believe you rooted for Bush?

Del

February 15th, 2010
11:09 am

“We don’t know yet who changed the test scores”

Probably Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
11:09 am

ok, buckheadboy, let’s watch the name-calling. We’re trying to keep it civil here.

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
11:10 am

Sorry, that should have read “force”. Guess I was showing my government education backgound for a second. LOL

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
11:10 am

stw, you’re probably right.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
11:12 am

Just Saying

February 15th, 2010
11:12 am

The day we realze that we as a country are in one heck of a situation and put differences aside and work together for a resolve we will always have issues. Everything is a matter of opinion, we cannot change 911 and it is very difficult to fight an opponent who does not mind strapping 10 lbs of explosive to his or her chest walk in a building and set it off. I’m not willing to do it and I bet every person who has responded to the blog isn’t either for there country or whatever. They are fighting a war that has been going on for hundreds of years who are we to tell them how they should live. The British tried to do the same thing here and we fought it. Why wouldn’t they do the same? We have our own issues no jobs, terrorist in our own country, kids not learning crap in school and a boat load of medical issues as a country. Who cares who comes up with a solution for OUR COUNTRY’s ISSUES just as long as we work together and get it done. Fighting against eachother is not helping.

BPJ

February 15th, 2010
11:13 am

Remember the video of Republicans jumping up and down and cheering when the Olympic bid of an AMERICAN city (Chicago) lost? Just because it’s Obama’s hometown. For a perspective on just how far Republicans have strayed, try to imagine Ronald Reagan doing that.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
11:15 am

Obama said he should get a B+ for job performance! The majority of the county gave him a “D”. Is he arrogant or what?

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:16 am

@ Huckabee: Darwinism is NOT always the guiding principle in being successful; if one looks at pure Darwinism, then why did dinosaurs become extinct….and other life forms continue?? Adaptation to an environment made certain species continue..whereas others died out. Also, in some areas, the herd mentality causes others to succeed. Look at a flock of geese in flight; the leader sets the path, and the others follow in his wake…riding on his cutting through the air to more easliy traverse!! People DO need assistance in making a defined path work! That’s what education does……

If PURE Darwinism were invoked…..arnarchistic tendencies would be the RULE, not the EXCEPTION!! SOMEONE led you down a certain path….SOMEONE gave youy assistance….SOMEONE gave you motivation…as they did ME!!

cb

February 15th, 2010
11:17 am

Tucker, you are absolutely wrong. You have no business suggesting such propaganda. You know, terrorists use propaganda all the time.

smaertestone

February 15th, 2010
11:20 am

@squirrelly

The worst thing to ever happen to this country was the election of a black man to president. Just say it dude! Don’t use his whole name as a substitute for “that black guy”. You’re being disingenuous to us man. Anyway, blacks didn’t get Obama the presidency alone, our population is too small for that. So I will thank whites and hispanics for their participation in ridding the country of republican leadership for 4 or hopefully 8 years.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
11:21 am

The folks in Massachusetts, Virgina and New Jersey recently gave Obama an “F”.

John

February 15th, 2010
11:21 am

to Ex Atl Falcon. I, let me emphasize “I”, believe this is largely do to large unemployment amongst African Americans. There are very few people sent around cubes contemplating knocking off a liqour store or smash and grabbin’ new republic jeans. We need an administration truly focused on job growth and a revision amongst corporate america that offshoring is the answer because it is cheaper. We need more job skills screening, training, and placement.

oldmac

February 15th, 2010
11:22 am

Isn’t it ironic that CT has decided to pick on Cheney but another recent VP gets a complete pass. Maybe there should be a “Did Algore make up global warming stuff?” type column. Now that’d be a good one.

J

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
11:22 am

hdb, Self pride gave me motivation and it didn’t come in the form of a welfare check or self pity.

Jose

February 15th, 2010
11:25 am

By looking at what happened during the Bush Administration and the aftermath, former VP Cheney did everything he could to make the Bush Administration a failure? He had the eight years of opportunity to make it better but he didn’t. Why anybody in their right frame of mind would want anymore failures for this country? Why anybody would want to promote failure? Why anybody would want to hope for failure for this country when you were the former VP? Why anybody would want to continue to spread fear? These are the most dangerous people that live among us. They keep people at odds so that they could rob them blind. There must be an angle for a profit to be made to continue to promote destruction, crisis, fear, and hopeless on the American people. The more he speak, it makes you realize that he was acting as the President rather the former President Bush. Somehow, I think that we need to stop blaming the former President Bush and start blaming the former Vice President Cheney for the state of this country. We need to bring all of them to justice.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:26 am

@Huckabee: Self-pride came from parents who instilled it into you; work ethic was generated from parents who taught it to you! Education came from teachers who saaw your potential!!

You DID have assistance from others….just as I did!! We share commonalities in that aspect…..

Parents serve as the primary example as to how to be successful…and an environment that’s geared towards success breeds those who desire to BE successful!! Agree???

Ex Atl Falcon

February 15th, 2010
11:26 am

HDB, post me a youtube link of a CNN or pMSNBC broadcast of them reporting these crime facts. If your statement is true, it would be on youtube for sure. I’ll await your link…

snoqualmiefalls

February 15th, 2010
11:30 am

Huh? Why on earth would people listen to the former VP? He is out of office, he is not the leader of the Republican Party, he is a private citizen, the same as the former governor of Alaska, where is Michael Steele in all this? Afterall he is the head of the Party, rather silent while others carry the water. Cheney is just attempting to rewrite history, as his wife and daughter have attempted. If I remember the phrase correctly, ‘patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels’ it’s on the Cheney coat of arms. So let’s talk about failure Dick.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
11:30 am

I am certainly glad we had President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney during that crisis period in our history. We needed strong leadership during that time period and we got it. They never waivered! They held strong througout! Peace prevailed!

Huckabee The Next POTUS-2013

February 15th, 2010
11:30 am

hdb, something we can agree on at last.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
11:31 am

Ex Atl Falcon, we are not discussing race in this post. If you want to discuss race, you’ll have to find another site.

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:32 am

Dick Cheney lecturing Pres. Obama on national security is like Nero saying to not play with matches.

Cheney has no credibilty on these issues. The worst attack on U.S. soil by far occured on his watch.

Walt

Ex Atl Falcon

February 15th, 2010
11:32 am

I agree Swamp, the Bush administration kept us safe. I don’t feel safe under the current administration.

ken

February 15th, 2010
11:33 am

Can’t wait till Nov elections. LAME DUCK. Seen any HELP WANTED signs ?

Ex Atl Falcon

February 15th, 2010
11:33 am

Oh I see Ms. Tucker, you have no defense for facts. Nice forfeit.

gary

February 15th, 2010
11:34 am

And you wanted George Bush to fail. What’s the difference?

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:35 am

Huckabee….that’s my point exactly! The problem is that for as many people (like US!) who are raised in an environment that breeds success, there’s just as many who are raised in an environment that breeds failure…and THOSE are the ones that always garner the headlines!! It’s not just a liberal or conservative problem…it’s an AMERICAN problem! For some, it’s access; for others, it’s parenting and atmosphere; for many, it’s financial……

There is not just a liberal or conservative answer that fits all circumstances….but a hybrid of both!!

Jim

February 15th, 2010
11:35 am

…and Cynthia Tucker and those who share her views wanted President Bush to succeed? Spare us the ongoing whining about Bush and Vice President Cheney. Let’s address the stunning failings of the policies of the current President. Dredging up the past White House is merely a smokescreen that interferes with the necessity to address the major problems with the present White House occupants. That’s what we need to address.

ch67

February 15th, 2010
11:35 am

Bush kept us safe!???!! Remind me again, who was President up to and during 9/11/2001 ? Oh, yeah, Mr. “kept us safe” Bush.
Apparently some folks don’t know their history.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:36 am

Ex-ATL Falcon: Bush didn’t keep many of us safe; he kept many of us BROKE!! That’s the greatest safety factor of all!!

President Hussein

February 15th, 2010
11:36 am

I WANT CYNTHIA TUCKER TO FAIL…… AND GO AWAY FOREVER.

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:37 am

The Bush Administration did not keep us safe. That is loony. The worst attack on U.S. soil occured under the Bush Administration.

Further, under the Clinton Administration Saddam Hussein was supressed:

0 US servicemen/women killed.

The Bush Administration suppressed Saddam Hussein:

4,000+ US servicemen/women killed.

Bush is the worst figure in American history. What is wrong with you people?

gary

February 15th, 2010
11:37 am

And you wanted George Bush to fail, and your own country to lose the Irag war so the White House would be embarrased. Get the boulder out of your own eye before removing the splinter in someone else’s.

ch67

February 15th, 2010
11:37 am

By the way excellent column Ms. Tucker, and also on the education column. I’m an educator with 30+ years experience and I thought your column was spot on.

Edward

February 15th, 2010
11:38 am

Sure Cheney wants President Obama to fail. Bush I went to war with Iraq to prove that larger nations should not war with smaller countries. Cheney (and Bush II) went to war with Iraq to prove that larger nations should go to war with smaller countries. The Cheney-Bush administration may have been the worst ever….If Obama fails, then the Bush II legacy may look a little better.

Idi Amin

February 15th, 2010
11:39 am

How could Cheney wish what has already OCCURRED? Obama=FAIL!

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
11:40 am

Walt… Unfortunately….The country has another 45% registered naive voters like you….. but the other 55 % will prevail this fall!

RGB

February 15th, 2010
11:41 am

“Cheney wants Obama to fail against terrorists”

Nothing in your column substantiated the headline.

Readers recognize a straw man when they see one.

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:41 am

“And you wanted George Bush to fail, and your own country to lose the Irag war so the White House would be embarrased.”

I was all for the invasion of Iraq.

I thought they surely had a plan. But they did not. They went out of their way to cancel plans extant (firing Gen. Jay Garner).

The Bush Administration -went-out-of-its-way to wreck plans for governing Iraq. That guaranteed the unnecessary deaths of our service people.

Walt

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:43 am

Question: Didn’t Dick Cheney preside as Secretary of Defense in the Reagan Administration….who ARMED Saddam Hussein with the weaponry that the US had to fight against in the Gulf War?? Wasn’t it Dick Cheney who assisted in arming Saddam Hussein against the Iranians..and gave American assistance in the Iran/Iraq War??

How soon we forget……………..

The Thin Guy

February 15th, 2010
11:43 am

Not being a mind reader I have no idea what Dick Cheney wants. But I certainly know what I want which is for The Teleprompter Reader of the United States to suffer cataclysmic failure in his attempts to destroy me and my country. Since The Reign of Terror began on January 20, 2009, he has attempted to take away my health care, take all my possessions, destroy the economy of the US, weaken our military, silence all critics, and made the USA an international laughingstock. His ultimate goal is to transform the USA into a Marxist dictatorship like North Korea where he will be Emperor for Life and there will be a statue of him in every public square and we will be required to bow on our knees and worship him and his likeness or face death by torture. But to be fair about it he did a fabulous job of killing that fly. Next time a Dracula movie is made he is my choice to play Renfield.

John

February 15th, 2010
11:43 am

No Republican wants Obama to fail. We just wanted him to get credit for doing so when he does. Atually, it’s largely a moot point since he’s already proving that he is a failure.

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:44 am

“How could Cheney wish what has already OCCURRED? Obama=FAIL!”

If you read the news, you’ll see that the Taliban are seeking an accomodation with us. Pres. Obama’s policy in Afghanistan seems to be going very well.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
11:44 am

President George W. Bush will go down as one of the stronger Presidents.
Especially, now that the “IRAQ Democracy” is taking off on it’s own. Greater Middleast Stability will be his legacy!

Billy O

February 15th, 2010
11:46 am

When Richard Reid was arrested, there was NO LAW to deal with terrorists. When the Underwear Bomber was arrested, there WAS a LAW to deal with terrorists, and the Justice Department and the President chose to ignore it. Sorry to confuse the issue with facts.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:46 am

@ John: That’s false….Lindsey GRaham said he wanted Obama to fail; Rush LImbaugh said he wanted Obama to fail….numerous Republicans have said they wanted Obama to fail!! He has yet to fulfill some of his promises…but please show me where Bush/Cheney fulfilled all of theirs….save making the rich richer..and the poor poorer…while squeezing the middle class!!!!!

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:48 am

Casually in the narative in a recent Nat Geo program about the fighting at Tora Bora was the revelation that when Bush asked if there was enough force to get Osama Bin Ladin, he was told “no”.

There was a force of 800 Rangers on scene that could have deployed to block OBL from escaping into Pakistan.

Bush did nothing. He let OBL escape.

Walt

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:48 am

@ Billy O: Wrong again….there has always been laws against air piracy, murder, hijacking, destruction of private property!! What many have espounded are laws that do NOT violate civil liberties……

DC Braves Fan

February 15th, 2010
11:49 am

What hypocrisy. You say you’re trying to keep things “civil” around here after penning a blog entry where you accuse a former US Vice President of desiring the deaths of thousands of innocent people just so he can show the current Administration that “he is right.” If you really wanted to be civil, you might allow for the possibility that Cheney simply disagrees with the current Administration and wants to make sure that IF there is another incident, the Administration will be held accountable. That does not mean that he “hopes” there will be such an incident. Now, you may actually believe the darker account, but unless you can actually read his mind, you’re just speculating. And you’re speculating that he is not just a misguided person but an evil one.

Yeah, how very civil of you. And you wonder why you stir up comments from the crazies? It’s blog entries like this that polarize political discussion in this country and cause people to be so firmly divided. When you characterize the persons on the other side as not just wrong but evil, are you actually suprised when they react poorly? Should you be?

The thing is, Cynthia, I know you actually are a grown up and capable of something better than this. But you didn’t show it here. This was a shockingly immature post for someone who ought to know better and capable of much more. You’ve let your own emotions color your judgment and interfere with your ability to engage in dispassionate analysis.

Ex Atl Falcon

February 15th, 2010
11:49 am

Good job HDB, I knew you didn’t have the links to back it up. Coward.

pat

February 15th, 2010
11:51 am

The important thing here isn’t who wants obama to fail, but the resounding way in which obama is fulfilling their wishes.

John

February 15th, 2010
11:51 am

Why do you people waste your time here? This woman gets paid to be controversial and to incite with her words. IT’S HER JOB! Every email here makes her voice stronger. I think everyone posting today knows what you get with this woman. If no one pays attention or responds to her, she loses her voice. Think about it……

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:52 am

“When Richard Reid was arrested, there was NO LAW to deal with terrorists. When the Underwear Bomber was arrested, there WAS a LAW to deal with terrorists, and the Justice Department and the President chose to ignore it. Sorry to confuse the issue with facts.”

That is factually incorrect. All the laws were the same. The X-Day bomber was treated exactly the same way Reid was treated.

If there is a new law, you need to provide the name and details.

Walt

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:52 am

EX-ATL Falcon: I’m in the midst of researching it…..I primarily looked at the FBI website…but am checking all other sources……Research DOES take time!!

Augusta Steve

February 15th, 2010
11:54 am

During the republican administration it was always “with us or against us”. With the democrats it’s “they want us to fail”. Two parties that bath in failure and blame. Same show, different pony.

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:54 am

“President George W. Bush will go down as one of the stronger Presidents.
Especially, now that the “IRAQ Democracy” is taking off on it’s own. Greater Middleast Stability will be his legacy!”

In other words, Iraq is no threat to us.

Iraq was no threat to us in 2003 either.

But now we are short 4,000+ of our finest young people.

Walt

Billy O

February 15th, 2010
11:54 am

HBD….if you the think the Middle Class was squezzed under Bush….you haven’t seen anything yet….if the president gets his way….there will be NO MIDDLE CLASS.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
11:57 am

@ Billy O: Under Bush, I was OUT of the middle class…and in the UNEMPLOYED class! Under Obama, I’m BACK in the middle class!! For the nation, which is better???

random observer

February 15th, 2010
11:57 am

A True Patriot

February 15th, 2010
9:21 am
You know Tucker, most of your columns deal with Racism in one way or another and this is another example of your evil, slanted, racist and almost idolatry toward YOUR black, not qualified to be president. Some of the statements you make are so obviously made with the intent to incite your black brethern toward hatred of any body born white. Why don’t you and Jesse and Al form a triumvirate and travel around the country spewing your special brand of hatred……maybe then people, black and white, can see what you, Jesse and Al are all about.

You are truly pitiful! I pray for you out of the depths of my heart!

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
11:58 am

In most of his policies, Pres. Obama’s actions are almost exactly what you would expect of a Republican administration.

Some of ya’ll seem to have missed that.

worthington

February 15th, 2010
12:00 pm

i like squezzed oj

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:01 pm

@ Random Observer: As they say on ESPN: C’MON, MAN!!!

You’d rather see as President a person who graduated 3rd from the BOTTOM of his class vs. Harvard Law Review President?? You’d rather see as President one who is flipping on his positions just to kowtow with his party?? Please tell me that you’re not that partisan and/or myopic!!!

Sam

February 15th, 2010
12:01 pm

I want Obama to fail when it comes to his agenda. I do not want more government involvement in health care; I do not want cap and trade. I want more free trade. I want terrorists treated as terrorists, not common criminals. I want lower taxes. I want less spending (the GOP does not have a good track record there either).

So, yes I want Obama to fail.

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:02 pm

CYNthia——-Does EVAN BAYH also want Obama to fail………….CYNTHIA—-YOU ARE CLUELESS.

Billy O

February 15th, 2010
12:03 pm

HBD….there was no law to deal with a enemy combatants….this should not be treated as a typical crime…..it is a WAR crime.

Jeremiah

February 15th, 2010
12:03 pm

Tucker is way wrong as usual! The reason why Cheney wants Obama to fail is because his methods, lack of experience, and poor decision making is detrimental to America! Therefore, Obama failing is actually good for America, the more he fails, the less likely he is to screw things up! What makes it tough is the amount of power he has…It’s like giving the keys to your sports car to a 12 year old, who has no clue how to handle it! Obama and his cronies ahve no clue how to handle the USA!

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:04 pm

@Ex-Falcon: This is from MSNBC….http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:04 pm

THE ATLANTA-OBAMA-JOURNAL has failed because the NEWS DIVISION is CLUELESS.

boots

February 15th, 2010
12:05 pm

The list of things Cheney was wrong about is long. Cheney, Rumsfeldt and Bush persued the wrong enemy, spent thousands of young lives, our treasury and rolling inventory on a war that was ill-conceived, wrong-headed and of no lasting benefit!

Period!

And, this is the reason Cheney is trying to rewrite history. Cheney is a draft-dodger who is long on war, but short on his willingness to be an active participant when his butt was on the line.

Billy O

February 15th, 2010
12:07 pm

HBD…..I guess it is relative….under Bush my wife and I were both employed…..under Obama we are both unemployed….cograts on getting back to work….my prospects don’t look to good right now.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:07 pm

Billy O: War crimes are under the Geneva Convention; Congress has to declare war for those to be considered. Since Congress has YET to declare war….just the President has, what is to be considered war crimes in the current environment will be judged under the civil statutes that cover such malfeasances. This is part of the law that conservatives wish to ignore……that WAR HAS YET TO BE DECLARED BY CONGRESS!!

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:09 pm

Billy O: HANG IN THERE!! Your time is coming….just keep plugging away! It only took me three months to find a job when Obama got in the White House….it took me almost 5 YEARS when Bush got in…and I lost mine!! I was a 9/11 victim……

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:09 pm

EVEN EVEN BAYH knows OBAMA is a complete failure….a total washOut

Del

February 15th, 2010
12:10 pm

I think Walt gets his facts from comic books.

random observer

February 15th, 2010
12:11 pm

The Thin Guy

February 15th, 2010
11:43 am
Not being a mind reader I have no idea what Dick Cheney wants. But I certainly know what I want which is for The Teleprompter Reader of the United States to suffer cataclysmic failure in his attempts to destroy me and my country. Since The Reign of Terror began on January 20, 2009, he has attempted to take away my health care, take all my possessions, destroy the economy of the US, weaken our military, silence all critics, and made the USA an international laughingstock. His ultimate goal is to transform the USA into a Marxist dictatorship like North Korea where he will be Emperor for Life and there will be a statue of him in every public square and we will be required to bow on our knees and worship him and his likeness or face death by torture. But to be fair about it he did a fabulous job of killing that fly. Next time a Dracula movie is made he is my choice to play Renfield.

Thin Guy, you, too, are in need of serious prayer so I will on your behalf and there is NOTHING you can do about it!

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:11 pm

EVEN EVAN BAYH KNOWS OBAMA’S presidency is a complete failure…Everyone knows Obama is a failure……but the Atlanta-Obama-Journal..

Wake Up Idiots!!

February 15th, 2010
12:13 pm

Is Obama succeeding in anything? All I see is disarray and Democrats blaming Republicans. Democrats need to shut up, take responsibility, and start making the “change” they promised or get out of the way and make way for someone that will. C’mon people, wake up, when government gets as big as it currently is we all lose. Career politicians should be your enemy not the people you look up to.

Woolie

February 15th, 2010
12:14 pm

Obama is leading this country into disaster in several ways. It’s just a crapshoot whether we are attacked with terrorist’s WMDs or if everything spins into chaos when the economy collapses. If anyone is left alive, the history books will express disbelief that we could ever elect such a left-wing America-hater and allow him to destroy us.

We’re doomed in any case. Even if Obama was impeached, we would get Biden the clueless moron and hack politician. And beyond Biden, there’s Pelosi, so we’re just screwed.

Depressing, isn’t it.

just saying

February 15th, 2010
12:14 pm

random observer …. I bet he wants to take away your guns too!

boots

February 15th, 2010
12:14 pm

Behind the support for Cheney’s revisionist history, the Tea Party movement, rabid conservatism and the pseudo-concern for small government, government bail-outs, fear of security and all the anti-Obama rhetoric is a subtle racism that just can’t come to grips with the fact that the American people elected a bright young black man as President instead of a worn-out ol’white man and his totally inept VP candidate.

This ol’ white dude says, get over it!

Right is right

February 15th, 2010
12:15 pm

deborahinAthens

How the hell did you get in the US anyhow?

IDIOT!

RGB

February 15th, 2010
12:15 pm

DC Braves Fan @ 11:49: GREAT POST. Accurate and insightful.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:16 pm

Wow…isn’t it BEST to judge a person’s work when it’s completed…rather than in the midst?? President Obama’s work has yet to be completed! Granted, there are policies that I can disagree on…as well as agree….so I’ll reserve judgment until his body of work is complete….just as I did with the BUsh Administration!!

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:17 pm

WELL……………OBAMA argued for FAILURE IN iraq……AJC argued for FAILURE IN iraq……JOE BIDEN argued for failure in IRAQ……CYNTHIA……is rewriting history…….something LIBERALs always do….REWRITE HISTORY..

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:19 pm

HDB———–WHEN YOU SEE THE COUNTRY headed for SOCIALISM………Do you wait til it has gone SOCIALISM——-or do you try & stop the advance to SOCIALISM-??-HDB—PUT ON YOUR THINKING CAP….GUY

boots

February 15th, 2010
12:20 pm

Patriotism is, indeed, the last refuge of the scoundrel!

boots

February 15th, 2010
12:21 pm

Enter your comments here

DAVID; AJC Truth Detector

February 15th, 2010
12:23 pm

HDB—-Your comments are mind-boggling——DO YOU WAIT FOR A TERRORIST to blow up a plane—–His art work——-or Do you arrest him before he does his job….-???

Jack

February 15th, 2010
12:24 pm

You folks are either in denial or you just don’t understand anything. Bush/Cheney left the country in terrible shape and in terrible debt. The country stood still under their Bush/Cheney watch. Energy, Space, transportation, housing…. Shall i go on…

crowdog

February 15th, 2010
12:25 pm

Cheney wants Obama to fail just like Democrats and Obama wanted Bush to fail. It started day one of the Bush administration. Remember the fail policies of the Bush administration. They blamed Bush for everything from global warming to gnats not mating during the summer.

RGB

February 15th, 2010
12:28 pm

“On Afghanistan, Cheney said he is a “complete supporter” of President Obama’s decision to send more troops to the region and praised the selection of Gen. Stanley McChrystal to head the effort. ” (ABC News)

Hmmm. That doesn’t match your headline [Cheney wants Obama to fail against terrorists], does it?

random observer

February 15th, 2010
12:30 pm

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:01 pm
@ Random Observer: As they say on ESPN: C’MON, MAN!!!

You’d rather see as President a person who graduated 3rd from the BOTTOM of his class vs. Harvard Law Review President?? You’d rather see as President one who is flipping on his positions just to kowtow with his party?? Please tell me that you’re not that partisan and/or myopic!!!

I’m a bit confused by your response as I was responding to True Patriot who obviously has some race issues. But, as to a presidient “kowtowing” to his party, please name the president who never did! Presidents are, first, politicians who get elected running on their party platform. Being elected means they to govern a populus in which many are disappointed with the election results.

It made perfect sense that GW Bush would “kowtow” to Republicans because they were the base of his support. Disappointed Democrats opposed him even though he won two elections. Now, the tables are turned and even though some opponents act as if the ending of civilization is upon us, America has always survived changes in the White House and NOBODY walks into the Oval Office “qualified.” Every president learns while in the office! W did and so will Obama and both will ALWAYS have their detractors!

cmac

February 15th, 2010
12:31 pm

I want obozo to fail as well! And he is rapidly heading in that direction. YIPEEEEE!

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
12:31 pm

HDB;

Yes and if you keep voting for progressive liberals the conservatives probably will not do anything for you. Quid pro quo! You elect this one and you will get this. When have you ever chosen a conservative in an election.
Oh by the way, neo-con is a converted liberal to conservatism after they realize the liberal ideals does not work. Maybe you missed that in your liberal newspaper.

Last but not least, in my opinion your talking points are like the climategate evidence, it sounds good until some real research is done.

getalife

February 15th, 2010
12:31 pm

dick is a coward and failure.

cons love folks like that.

crowdog

February 15th, 2010
12:32 pm

Jack you are crazy. Democrats have been running congress since 2007 and the recession started later that year, why, energy, why, Democrats would and will not let the oil companies explore where oil is. The housing crisis, why, Democrats do your research, Barney Frank did not let the Bush administration rein in problems with Fannie mae and Freddie mac. Bush did not create credit fault swaps, nor did he force people to buy homes with no money down and they could not afford. Bush did not create mark to market, what about hedge funds manipulation, did Bush do that, no it was Goldman Sacs. I have a youtube video of the congressional black caucaus saying there was nothing wrong with Fannie and Freddie and a few month later they had to correct their earning report. Bush was a fool, Obama is a idiot. do you homework and you will find both parties stink.

devildawg

February 15th, 2010
12:32 pm

Cynthia, you are IGNORANT!!!! And, yes, I can call you that all you want, because this is a free country, and you don’t own this blog or this paper. God, I am so happy that this country isn’t full of IGNORANT people like you. You are a poison to freedom and a poison to America.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:32 pm

@ David/Truth: Certain areas of this nation ARE socialist…..and people have accepted this in the free enterprise system. Unbridled laissez-faire economics does NOT work for all people….look at what happened to the BANKS!! Governmental controls ensure the possibility of ALL people having the possibilities to prosper. Under pure capitalism, too many people would get SCREWED (as they are now!)!!

Civil law also has the capability to PREVENT crime…if PROOF is properly generated! This is a nation of LAWS…and sometimes, the laws MUST be followed to the letter! Other times, laws must be circumvented by judicial fiat because they are unjust!! Are you prescribing to anarchistic philosophy that what is just for one is just for ALL? That’s not always the case!!

Jack

February 15th, 2010
12:34 pm

We all want our President to succeed. We all want the folks that would kill us in the blink of an eye to think that just maybe we have a President they should fear: But they don’t. Most of us know already that we have a President that was elected for style over substance. And we’re paying the price now.

vangie

February 15th, 2010
12:36 pm

Cheney is the ole wiley devil in the flesh. He ia a creepy, evil thing. I for one am glad he is no longer in office. The USA has been one of the worst agressors in the world. Our hands are tainted with the blood of many thousands. From the US natives, Cuba, Sarijavo, Panama,and the list can go on forever. Someone out here ois going to say all of the deaths of these other people were justified. If we are going to call ourselves a free and rightous nation we need to be promoters of peace not war

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
12:37 pm

Myopic is such a good word:
myopic = progressive liberals

Woolie

February 15th, 2010
12:37 pm

Cynthia, when the United States collapses into total chaos, will you still be writing this leftist crap?

Will you ever admit that you’re wrong about just about everything?

No, I doubt it.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:38 pm

@ Williebkind: Question: When has a conservativew come into my neighborhood and asked for my vote? When has a conservative espoused policies that have yet to adversely affect me, my family, my neighborhood?? When have conservatives not espoused policies that refuse to enforce current law??

In my lifetime, this is the pattern…..why should I vote…and support for someone that continues to inflect that perspective??

There are liberal ideas that work….as well as some conservative….I believe that because I’ve seen them work…..but when conservatism works against me….and has YET to work FOR me, then it must be called out….and the same with liberalism!!

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
12:40 pm

RED alert! HDB Red alert! His boasting his socialist values in a free society but let him go to kuuba an do it or China or Venezuela or….

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:40 pm

Myopic IS a good word — and it holds BOTH for conservatives as well as liberals. It’s REQUIRED to be able to view as WIDE a perspective as is feasible to be an INFORMED voter!!

Jack

February 15th, 2010
12:41 pm

crowdog – The lack of progress under the Bush/Cheney is fact. Oil and gas will not last forever. Bush policy drill more. But, for ten years they did nothing. Space – instead of moving forward these folks go back in time and use technology from the 60s. As far as credit fault swaps, Bush would always say the markets are fine and these folks know what there are doing and we do need government making things worst. SURE they do?

peadog your wrong

February 15th, 2010
12:43 pm

lets compare the 2 administrations to date wrt voting in the senate and congress shall we …

last time i checked congress almost UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ‘FOR’ WHEN WE VOTED ON THE WAR IN BOTH IRAQ AND IRAN. last time i looked the republicans held a majority in congress and the senate most of the time under bush and they were able to pass legislation…. on deregulation …on cutting taxes on the rich…. on going to war an not ‘paying as you go’….. on the bank bailout etc etc etc, all of those bills and issues ( including being war hawks) are on the republican platform. no taxes. small govt. favoring big biz over main street. had the democrats wanted to they could have employed the same tactics that the republicans are doing now. they didn’t do it across the board like the republicans are doing now.

one only watch any news not called fox and it is clear that all the republicans across the board take a stance directly opposite of obama. they don’t do this on just certain issues. they do this on every stance he takes. if he says black they way white. if he asks for gray they say we will accept only black. if he changes to black than they say we really meant white. disregard all our previous dialogue.

look at john mccain for instance. he flops more than a fish out of water. before obama he was against torture. now he is for it. before obama he for climate change issues. now he is against it. And the list goes on. the guy is a walking lie machine. he could have starred in the movie about lieing.

i don’t recall any politician from the democratic side stating over an over that a stance that bush took would be his Waterloo. say what? this is THE republican platform now. they want to see obama fail.

than we have dick ‘ the draft dodging hawk’ cheney who doesnt know when to shut up. name me a single democratic vp that has criticized a new president and said publicly that he hopes he fails. only big mouth i know of is dick cheney.

sorry buddy but you dont even want to debate me. i would kick your ass.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:44 pm

@ Williebkind: If socialism means that I believe in a safety net for people, that I believe in assisting the least of my bretheren….then I’ll be that! I DO believe in work, education, and self-reliance….so there are conservative principles that I embellish!! Optimism is more of a LIBERAL principle…by my seeing the glass as half-FULL….and I know that uncontrolled free enterprise screws more people that it helps!! Logically, there are CONTROLS over free enterprise that allows it to work efficiently….that’s where governmental intervention takes place!!

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
12:44 pm

HDB
You can fall behind the rest of the US. That is fine with me. After all it is a free country until progressive liberals get in charge and make it a government control fiasco. I could profile you very easily. That is why I am satisfied you have been born on that democratic plantation and know nothing else.

vangie

February 15th, 2010
12:45 pm

I believe that people have lost thier minds. Their is no longer a civil discourse of beliefs no debates based on facts and no respect for the office of President of the USA. I think the whole country has lost it mind. The terrorist do not have to worry about the USA for long, we are doing a pretty good job of killing our nation from within. I guess Stahlin was right, the USA would not be brounght low by invaders, but rather its on greed and averice.

chris

February 15th, 2010
12:46 pm

While I do not agree with Cheney’s view, I do wonder how that is different from the Democrats and yourself Cynthia when Bush was President. It was quite evident that they wanted Bush to fail. And your writings during his administration certainly showed a desire for his failure. I may not agree with a large part of his agenda, and I do want some of Obama’s policies to fail, because I do not agree with them in regards, to taxes, healthcare,union and labor laws and other aspects However there are a lot of things he does that I support. But on keeping our nation safe and hopefully turning around the economy he has my full support and my respect. Something that is often lost in these debates (respect for different opinions)

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:47 pm

…and NEO-CON also is a new LEVEL of conservatism wherein nothing is controlled….people get screwed…the rich become richer, policy is driven by religion versus law…and dissent is frowned upon…..

THAT came out in 2001……

buckheadboy

February 15th, 2010
12:49 pm

Swampdawd: “President George W. Bush will go down as one of the stronger Presidents”

OH MY GOD!! I laughed so hard when I read that I almost knocked a lung loose. You slay me Swamphawg, er I mean dawg.

Williebkind

February 15th, 2010
12:50 pm

AL GORE IS A CRIMINAL!

He deliberately deceived American citizens and took their money on false pretenses. There is not climate warming! There has not been climate warming since 1995! The real research is finally getting out! Look at what Al Gore has done with this false evidence! He has cost this country trillions and costing the lowest of the low income American household a significant part of their meager income. All this while he has lined his pockets with millions of extorted dollars.

I want justice brought to this scalawag! He is the typical progressive liberal and now must face justice.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:51 pm

@ Williebkind: False premise, my friend! I was born with the idea of self-reliance, work, education, and perserverance! I was also born under INEQUALITY…and the changing of the law that allowed me to be viewed AS an equal! I saw the conservative movement change from being progressive to being REGRESSIVE! I saw voting blocs be marginalized byu conservatives! There are areas where governmental control is VITAL; for some, not required!

If being progressive means that ALL people have access to the Ameican Dream….then I’ll be one!!

chuck allison

February 15th, 2010
12:54 pm

Cheney is not trying to rewrite history, and certainly he wants Obama to fail, as do all patriotice Americans. I wonder if Obama will be as arrogant in his concession speech as he has been thus far.

HDB

February 15th, 2010
12:55 pm

..and for those who feel that progressives screwed this nation…look at Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, JFK; me thinks those progressives did this nation well, don’t you??

The White Devils You Say!

February 15th, 2010
12:56 pm

You’re soooo right Ms. Tucker. Dick Cheney does want Obama to fail. So do I. But not in the way that you think. He does not want him to fail and for the United States to be attacked again. He wants his ‘polisay’ to be exposed in such a way as Obama must admit that it is a failure and he will actually do the right thing. If Obama were to change his ‘polisay’ on the War on Terror (yes that it what it is) and the ‘economay’, then we will all support him. However, until that happens, we will continue to work against his failed ‘polisays’.

2by6

February 15th, 2010
12:56 pm

cmac

I want obozo to fail as well! And he is rapidly heading in that direction. YIPEEEEE!
That is what you want because of the color of his skin and when he does you think you will not be affected.
Your iq is very low because you have no clue. White folks you all make me laugh you think you have a God given right.

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
12:58 pm

Every bit of success the USA had in the 20th century was under the leadership of Democratic Party presidents and Congresses.

Walt

2by6

February 15th, 2010
12:59 pm

Agnes if you read your history or paid attention in class you will know how they got there and it is real easy now
you do not have to read a book you can google it.

KB

February 15th, 2010
1:01 pm

Didn’t Cheney already fail? Right, moving along…

Big L

February 15th, 2010
1:02 pm

Careful…CT likes to ban people …

Cynthia's mother

February 15th, 2010
1:03 pm

If you don’t want to be called ignorant, educate yourself with the truth. Otherwise, people that are not blinded by the lies and distortions foisted on the uninformed public by TV comics, Hollywood libs, and the old, has-been media, will see and view you for what you are at the moment; ignorant.

Mark

February 15th, 2010
1:03 pm

Obama has already failed. Adding trillions to the national debt, sending more troops (while accepting the peace prize), bowing to a saudi prince, and running around the world apologizing for America, refusing to produce a birth certificate…I could go on and on. Enjoy your “change”, lemmings!

Cynthia's mother

February 15th, 2010
1:05 pm

Walt Miller: Perfect example of the failure of our government-run “educational” (doctrinational) system! Absolutely sad and PATHETIC.

Chuckie

February 15th, 2010
1:06 pm

Well I think there are a lot of people who want him to fail in some of his efforts because those efforts are bad for America. Health Care, Climate Change, giving terrorist the same rights as US citizens are three good examples.

ken. R

February 15th, 2010
1:09 pm

This article looks as if it was written by TWIT. My God woman have you no scrupples?
To boldly lie like that is slander, shame on you.
Only a moron would want to give a terrorist a civilian trial, the shoe wanna be bomber and all terrorists should be tried in a Military court.
You know and so does most of the sane thinking public that Holder is nuts & wrong.
You probably would have loved Bush if he was Black.

Tom

February 15th, 2010
1:10 pm

Cynthia, if you were driving your car 100 miles an hour down the road, would I be wishing you were to fail if I warned you it was dangerous?

I might be trying to save the poor guy’s life who unfortunately was coming from the opposite direction into the path of your irresponsibility.

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
1:11 pm

ken r, you may disagree with strenuously, but you may not call me a “twit.” Nor is race being discussed in this thread. If you want to discuss your obsession with race, go elsewhere

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
1:12 pm

You’re certainly not my mother. She’s thinking of suing you for slander

Cynthia's mother

February 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

@HDB… You have always had equal access to the dream, and now you have MORE than equal access to the dream. The ONLY obstacle you and your kind have is in your own mind, distorted by lies to you over many decades, designed to keep you on the liberal/progressive plantation. You’ve been given a crutch that you’ve never needed!

ctucker

February 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

2by6, I realize a lot of my commenters are obsessed with race. Please don’t take their bait.

Spare the rod...spoil the child

February 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

All the crybaby, bedwetting children aka “conservatives” are at it again. Don’t you whiny douchebags ever get tired of crying?

Randall

February 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

Joe Biden claiming someone is “rewriting” History is quite amusing. Seems it was Mr. Biden that had a little “issue” with a plaigarism.
Ms. Tucker, it’s not a question of Cheney or even Rush Limbaugh “wanting” Obama to fail—-Obama and his minions seem to be doing quite a job of failing —-on their own!

don

February 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

She is so full of S…, her history is proof.

Cynthia's mother

February 15th, 2010
1:15 pm

Referring to the song, Ms. Tucker, not anyone related to you that I’m aware of.

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
1:17 pm

C’mon Folks…. Can’t we get along?

Walter Miller

February 15th, 2010
1:17 pm

Here is a link to a great story about how the Obama Adminstration is making progess against the bad guys:

http://www.military.com/news/article/us-strategy-widens-assault-on-terrorists.html?col=1186032307786#community

“The White House says it see no conflict between broadening the attacks overseas and sticking with the U.S. judicial system at home, where hundreds of people have been convicted on terrorism charges since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

“The president believes that we need to use all elements of American power to defeat al-Qaida, including the strength of our military, intelligence, diplomacy and American justice,” said Ben Rhodes, White House deputy national security adviser. “We only weaken ourselves when we fail to use our full arsenal.”

Spare the rod...spoil the child

February 15th, 2010
1:19 pm

“You and your kind” ? Nice one…time to take your meds, now Klansman wannabe aka “Cynthia’s mother”

Spare the rod...spoil the child

February 15th, 2010
1:20 pm

Georgia is so full of closet racist wimps…who love to spread their hate via the internet.
I read these comments and I am embarassed to be white.

Spare the rod...spoil the child

February 15th, 2010
1:22 pm

Williebkind, you need to take your meds….PRONTO !

Diana

February 15th, 2010
1:22 pm

As a bi-racial female (white and black), I almost ready for the next term we see another “run of the mill” white man back in office so that all these undercover racists or inately prejudiced people will be forced to retreat to the issues and seeing things as they really are rather than being mad at whose in office. A lie is a lie is a lie no matter who it’s coming from. No doubt those in political positions are forced to withhold, stretch information they disclose etc, but how does anyone see the lies of the Bush and Cheney administration as justifiable? When did people stop caring about what was best for the majority of people/humans and become so self-absorbed and adverse to being wrong or humbled that they can’t even admit what’s right and wrong. I am not an Obama maniac by any means. I want to see him bring successes to this country just as I’d want any sitting president to do but I also wonder why in one year time people constantly want to say he’s failing when he’s got a recession and war brought in by a previous administration to appear to clean up? Where are the people that can justify how and who got us in the recession we are in? Where are those that are mad at the bailouts and government money Bush approved before he left office? Where are those that realize we were fed a load of crap to get into Iraq and it sacrified our people’s lives? Please name the things the Bush adminstration brought us that you’re proud about? Really people – grow the hell up and figure out what being a human being and an American with a conscience is about….

Swampdawg

February 15th, 2010
1:22 pm

We need a kinder and gentler blog!