The Edwards children have a sister. They should get to know her

Elizabeth Edwards should embrace Rielle Hunter’s daughter, for her children’s sake.   Yes, that’s a huge thing to ask of a woman who has already endured so much. I have a great deal of sympathy for her, even if she is the rhymes-with-witch she’s made out to be in a recent New York magazine profile.

But here’s the reality: Her husband  is a skunk, a weasel, who has had a child with someone else. Still, the child did nothing to deserve being the object of scorn or derision. She deserves to be close to her siblings.

She also deserves to have her father in her life. As Washington Post columnist Colbert King pointed out in a recent column, the pronouncements about responsible fatherhood don’t just apply to teenagers and ghetto dwellers.

In a speech at the Apostolic Church of God in Chicago on Father’s Day in 2008, then-presidential candidate Barack Obama told the congregation: “Of all the rocks upon which we build our lives, we are reminded today that family is the most important. And we . . . recognize and honor how critical every father is to that foundation.”

Obama didn’t mince words. “If we are honest with ourselves, we’ll admit that what too many fathers also are is missing — missing from too many lives and too many homes. They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.”

He continued: “We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception. We need them to realize that what makes a man is not the ability to have a child — it’s the courage to raise one.”

On that Father’s Day, Obama was in a black church talking to men in the African American community.

But it also applies to John Edwards. (And, as King noted, OMB director Peter Orszag.)

200 comments Add your comment

Davo

January 21st, 2010
10:06 am

Since none of these people are public figures anymore, why don’t you mind your own business, lady.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
10:17 am

Davo, John and Elizabeth Edwards are very much public figures. John is having to face a federal grand jury investigating whether he misused campaign funds to cover up his affair with Hunter — an investigation very much in the news. And Elizabeth Edwards wrote a book about her travails, including her husband’s affair. She discussed it on Oprah. If that’s not public, I don’t know what is.

Get Real

January 21st, 2010
10:24 am

Really, who really gives a rip about John Edwards, his affair, etc. and who wants to see a picture of Tiger at a sex rehab clinic. Get a life!

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 21st, 2010
10:28 am

John Edwards is a private citizen…….WHO CARES…….Leave him alone…..You told us what President Bill Clinton did was between him & his wife…..And Hilllary did not care..

Dr. Feelgood

January 21st, 2010
10:30 am

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

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That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK,
we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.

As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.

When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering,
blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

Could not be any simpler than that.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
10:30 am

David-AJC Truth Detector,
Your memory is not serving you well. I said no such thing about Bill Clinton. He carried on an affair with a White House intern while in office. It was very much the public’s business. I criticized him and called for his resignation. But I also said he didn’t deserve to be impeached.
BTW. don’t we all discuss the out-of-wedlock birth rate as a legitimate public concern?

Swami Dave

January 21st, 2010
10:30 am

To Cynthia’s point, abandonment (whether financial or emotional) of children is wrong whether done by those “of means” or those “without”. It is deserving of equal merits of shame from society.

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2010
10:32 am

Yeah, right. One big happy family. Get a life, Cynthia.

limited contributor

January 21st, 2010
10:33 am

Davo, each of us gets to decide what is our concern, though you call it business! And, really, it doesn’t matter if you agree or not, you don’t get to decide my concerns and I don’t get to decide yours! Notice how you were concerned enough to send Ms. Tucker a comment? Looks like you decided that what she writes in her column is “your” business!!

Davo

January 21st, 2010
10:35 am

A woman is dying of terminal cancer, after being dragged through the dirt by her husband and the media, and CT has the gall to tell her how to parent. Disgusting. Your arrogance knows no bounds.

neo-Carlinist

January 21st, 2010
10:40 am

the idea that Elizabeth Edwards would “embrace” Rielle Hunter’s daughter makes for a nice Hallmark made for TV movie, but it has no viability or connection to the real world (unless you’re talking about MTV’s Real World). This whole scenario summarizes what is wrong with (some) liberals. namely, they have agenda/policies which effect the lives/choices of OTHERS, yet they can’t seem to make good choices in their own (private) lives. have you read JE’s statement? the timing has me thinking it has more to do with what happened in MA (Obama is vulnerable in 2012), than genuine contrition (once a weasel/politician always a weasel/politician). he wants to be “a good father”? seems to me that ship has sailed, and I guess in his mind, if he can’t be a “good father” he can still be a “good” politician. he was a father longer before he has unprotected sex with a political groupie, and produced a child out of wedlock. while it is possible he could be a “good father” to his daughter, the ONLY chance of this would be to divorce his wife, abandon his current family and start over with his “new” family. but as I said, the liberal ethic/brain needs to use the well-being of children to justify or account for the specious and morally suspect behaviors of adults. why didn’t Edwards encourage Hunter to have an abortion? I know many women who have raised children sans a traditional, made for TV “father”, and in my humble opinion, those children have a far better chance of success than in any “blended family” scenario. at the end of the day, (most – not all, but most) liberals want to have their cake and eat it too, but the IRONY is, this infantile need is mutually exclusive to adults (children do not NEED to have a father and know him too)

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2010
10:43 am

Maybe Elizabeth Edwards could go visit Ms. Hunter and her new baby between chemotherapy treatments. You expect Edwards older children to welcome this new baby into their fold with open arms for the sake of “family unity”? Edwards already had a family which he chose to ignore when he set about his robust affair. He denied the fact publically, that the baby was his and lied to all who would listen. His lack of responsibility and inconsiderate attitude to his existing family is the most telling part of this whole thing. At least he didn’t send her to California and put her on the Rainbow Push payroll. What a sordid mess.

Yeababy

January 21st, 2010
10:43 am

John and Elizabeth Edwards are now separated per NBC News why on Earth does it matter what Elizabeth does? Leave the woman alone, she has been thru enough for petes sake! Here’s hoping she gets everything he has for HER children

Tara

January 21st, 2010
10:44 am

The Edwards situation is a fabulous example of how financial means and privilege were used to conceal parenthood. Yet all this “sophistication” does not make John Edwards any better than the young, unemployed, absent father who has “baby mommas” all over the city. Let us stand against child abandonment in all social classes. It does matter. Because public figures like John Edwards create an environment which tacitly approves of such behavior. And unfortunately irresponsible sexual behavior has innocent victims whose lives have to change because of the consequences, just ask Mrs. Woods. In this case the family and developmental needs of a child trump the needs and desires of the adults, even if they are dying of cancer.

Jimmy Carter

January 21st, 2010
10:47 am

I think the legitimate children of John and Elizabeth Edwards need to be the ones who decide whether or not they wish to have a relationship with the baby, not some AJC hack. Freedom of choice, right?

Yeababy

January 21st, 2010
10:49 am

Mrs. Edwards owes Rielle Hunter and her soon to be ex-husband nothing. She owes their child nothing. Mrs. Edwards needs to focus on her health and HER children who are not babies anymore. They can decide if they want this kid in their lives. Perhaps Cate doesn’t want a relationship with this woman or her baby? And who can blame her!

Joan

January 21st, 2010
10:51 am

It is so like you to try to tell someone how to live their own lives. I think the Edwards kids should do whatever they feel they want to do about this baby. Get off playing God. You are not Obama.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
10:52 am

Perhaps I shouldn’t be, but I’m genuinely surprised that so many of you have no compassion for an innocent child who didn’t do anything to bring about her birth. Do you think she chose to be born to John Edwards and Rielle Hunter? Should she have done a better job of choosing her parents?
How many of you also oppose abortion?

Turd Ferguson

January 21st, 2010
10:53 am

“Her husband is a skunk, a weasel” LOL!

Im just glad he didnt become the presidential or vice-presidential skunk or weasel. This Edwards fellow is just too slick for his own good.

Other than that…Congrats John!!

On an aside…Liz Edwards is nothing to write home about, hence, cant really blame him for the affair.

Jimmy Carter

January 21st, 2010
10:55 am

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
10:52 am

Let me rephrase one of your questions:

Do you think an unborn child choses to be aborted?

Yeababy

January 21st, 2010
10:58 am

John and Rielle can do whatever they want with their baby Cynthia we aren’t objecting to that. Don’t expect Mrs. Edwards to make everything okay for them though! Elizabeth is those kids mother and if she doesn’t want Rielle Hunter in their lives thats her business and not anyone elses. You aren’t talking about the federal investigation, your trying to tell Elizabeth how to run her home. Like I said Cate is a grown woman she make up her own mind and the other 2 are old enough now to know whats up so please spare the Edwards family the tips. You assume they WANT anything to do with this baby or even their father anymore after this.

Turd Ferguson

January 21st, 2010
10:59 am

“no compassion for an innocent child who didn’t do anything”…cant speak for the others, however, I dont think we view this situation from that perspective.

If John john runs around, produces a child then thats his issue with which to deal. How the family handles it is unimportant. “Having compassion for the innocent child?” In what respect? Not trying to be crass but what difference does it make? Its not our child or issue. Not attempting to be obtuse here I guess your point has just been missed…

PS…Im a pro-abortion republican yet identify more w/the independents.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
11:00 am

yeababy,
You misread my post. I didn’t say anything about embracing Rielle Hunter. I said Elizabeth should embrace the baby, with whom, presumably, John Edwards has visiting rights.

Peadawg

January 21st, 2010
11:00 am

“an innocent child who didn’t do anything to bring about her birth” AMEN!

“Do you think she chose to be born to John Edwards and Rielle Hunter?” No…but if you she could I think she’d chose different parents :)

“How many of you also oppose abortion?” ME!

Cynthia, I have a genuine question for you…just wondering. Are you pro-choice or pro-life and why?

OedipusTax

January 21st, 2010
11:01 am

Must be a really slow news day. And just two days after Massachusetts, too. Oh, but no wonder. Cynthia must be desperately trying to think of something else.

Solon/not Dr. Feelgood

January 21st, 2010
11:03 am

It’s often been politicians and great men of power who had the ability to do great things, in spite of their colossal human failings. Edwards, as odious as he is, was probably the only politico who would have taken on the lobbyists who own Washington, as he did the powerful he sued as a plaintiff’s attorney. As we know, it would have been a disaster, however, had he made it to the presidency before all this came out. As for Dr. Feelgood, get back to sending that tripe out to your simplistic minded e-mail pals.

CINDY STINKS

January 21st, 2010
11:04 am

Dear Swami Dave: Does your condemnation of abandonment include children conceived via artificial insemination with donor sperm? Those children will never know their biologic fathers or benefit from the father’s assets, so does that constitute abandonment? If so, who is responsible, the random male sperm donor, or the mother who chooses this means of reproduction? When I was a teenager, there was a 30 something woman in town whose husband could not have children. He was a truck driver out of town weekly, so apparently with his blessing, Mary would select teenage males to provided the sperm. After a year or so, it worked, and Mary had a healthy baby a bit later. The women in town treated her as a hero, she is in all the women’s clubs (this is a small town). No one knows which boy is the father, there were so many. Does that constitute abandonment? Oh yeah, Mary and her husband are still married and retired, with grandchildren. Mary really is her name.

Gordon

January 21st, 2010
11:05 am

Cynthia,

You were correct to call for Clinton’s resignation after having an inappropriate relationship with an intern. You were also correct not to call for his impeachment for that. However, you were wrong to not have called for his impeachment for committing perjury and tampering with witnesses (Betty Currie) and evidence (the gifts from Lewinski he told Curry to hide).

By the way, I agree completely with what you wrote here. But what was that about Orszag at the end?

Jimmy Carter

January 21st, 2010
11:05 am

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
10:30 am

You menioned concern about “the out-of-wedlock birth rate”. So what is your solution, distributing condoms in the classrooms? Let’s avoid discussing personal responbility, abstinence and such, let’s just provide birth control to students as young as 10, right?

Peadawg

January 21st, 2010
11:05 am

“Mary would select teenage males to provided the sperm”

If you’re talking about the males donating sperm at a sperm bank, that’s fine. But if she actually had sex w/ them…she’s a skank. End of story.

Yeababy

January 21st, 2010
11:06 am

Why should Elizabeth embrace the baby when she and John Edwards are now SEPARATED?! If he has visitation rights it won’t have anything to do with Elizabeth as he has his own pad now

Turd Ferguson

January 21st, 2010
11:06 am

CS…sounds like made for TV movie! Lucky teenagers!!

Fang1944

January 21st, 2010
11:07 am

Dr. Feelgood
January 21st, 2010
10:30 am

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

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Why do you keep posting this false and irrelevant story?

This is a well-known urban legend that goes back long before anybody had heard of Obama. I’m sure that an economics professor would know that students’ grades are not analogous to anybody’s economic plan–unless he was teaching at Bob Jones U.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
11:07 am

Peadawg, I’m guessing you are a new reader of my work, or you would already know the answer to the question: I’ve written on the topic of abortion for 20 years. I’m pro-choice. I’m on deadline writing my Sunday column, so I don’t have time for a lengthy explanation. I’ve explained my views in columns countless times.

neo-Carlinist

January 21st, 2010
11:09 am

Cynthia, it is you (and John Edwards) who “lacks compassion”. fair or unfair, this child’s father is a “weasel”. please define “compassion”/ there are many in the liberal world who think abortion would have been the most “compassionate” plan of action (insert Bush Doctrine/Pre-Emptive War double entendre). There are no “innoncent” children; there are only children, and at the end of the day, while the best case scenario is to have a child be loved and raised in a two-parent home (where mom and dad love each other), these scenarios are few and far between, so it seems to me the “best interests” of children, or the concept of “innocence” haven’t really driven human (parental) behavior at all. to “wish” that skunks and weasels would behave differently is dilusional, and in the end, far more detrimental to the (healthy) development of a child.

Ridgerunner

January 21st, 2010
11:12 am

There is a lot going on in the world. I don’t know that this is the priority topic for the day ……….. unless you also want to talk about fathers separated from their kids on their 6th tour in Iraq/Afghanistan.

But since you raised it, here is the answer:

2 Chronicles 7:14
“If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

Nothing else will stop this country’s downward spiral ………………………….

Peadawg

January 21st, 2010
11:15 am

I was just curious, b/c when you said “Do you think she chose to be born to John Edwards and Rielle Hunter? Should she have done a better job of choosing her parents?”, that sounded like an argument for pro-life.

RAMBLE ON!!!

January 21st, 2010
11:17 am

Is Bill Clinton a “is a skunk, a weasel”?

Yes. God only knows how many little Willie’s are running around.

So long as Elizabeth was going to be 1st Lady, she was fine with keeping the affair hidden. They both deserve each other. I hope they both sit in their 30,000sq. ft house and loath each other all day long.

Once again, Ann Coulter had it pegged before anyone else about The Edwards. Poor Elizabeth the cancer victim, vote for John.

Hey, if we had voted for Kerry/Edwards Christopher Reeves would be walking.
Surely Elizabeth would be cured.

Thank you National Enquire!!!

How does it feel to get out scooped by the National Enquire…AJC, NYT, Wa. Post, AP, NBC, CBS, ABC, yada, yada, yada?

Tim

January 21st, 2010
11:19 am

So does that make Jesse Jackson a skunk and a weasel?

Jimmy Carter

January 21st, 2010
11:24 am

Tim

January 21st, 2010
11:19 am

Throw “tragedy pimp” in there and I believe you’ve got him covered.

What'sup!

January 21st, 2010
11:24 am

It is beyond me why Cynthia would even express her opinion on this topic (when there are so many other topics). I would ask Cynthia, “As a mom who has adopted a child, is that child’s natural parents in her life?” Do you have a good relationship with the natural parents? You would say it is none of my business. And rightly so. So, it is really none of your business. Certainly we are all entitled to our opinion and so are you. But this is a topic that doesn’t deserve your opinion in a public forum. Discuss it with your friends or family but let it go there.
In the perfect world, fathers would be in their children’s lives regardless of the status of their relationship with the mothers. This is far from a perfect world and I don’t think we get to dictate what Elizabeth Edwards should do or not to do. I do think it is wonderful when all can get along but everybody’s situation is different and everybody is different insofar as what they are capable of handling and what they aren’t capable of handling.

jt

January 21st, 2010
11:24 am

Cynthia said this-

“But here’s the reality: Her husband is a skunk, a weasel, ”

One day this child could maybe see this written about her father. And last time I checked, this guy IS supporting his daughter.

Good job on promoting fatherhood Cynthia.

And I don’t EVEN like lawyers.

jt

January 21st, 2010
11:25 am

Love childs are people too.

Beautiful people.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
11:32 am

What’sup!
You are so right that I don’t get to dictate to Elizabeth Edwards what she should do about her family. But I do get to offer my opinion. And you get to disagree.

RK

January 21st, 2010
11:33 am

The premise that Elizabeth should have anything to do with John’s illegitimate child is insane. Put yourself in her shoes. It’s a good thing this blog doesn’t have a poll.

Scott

January 21st, 2010
11:33 am

It is George Bush’s fault.

ctucker

January 21st, 2010
11:34 am

By the way. What’s up!, if Elizabeth Edwards had handled the situation more privately, then I would have been less likely to comment on it. But she wrote a book and invited Oprah into her home to discuss this. That made it quite public.

rustylynn

January 21st, 2010
11:37 am

Laughing at Cynthia’s concern that the baby did not choose her parents, yet she crusades against the baby’s objection to have its skull punctured and contents sucked out.

Davis

January 21st, 2010
11:37 am

Do YOU have any children, anyone needs to know Ms. Tucker? If not, mind your own business or pen one of your insanely stupid columns about what a hypocrite he is, you should know plenty about that, but wait, OH NO, he is a democrap, so no chance of that happening, in this life!

Ben Franklin & Tom Jefferson

January 21st, 2010
11:38 am

Big Deal! No doubt John Boy look into the past of the Founders and found a loophole?