Pat Robertson harms image of Christians

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called the staggering destruction in Haiti “Biblical.” Pat Robertson saw the catastrophe in Old Testament terms, too, but he had a different take, blaming the epic tragedy on a “pact with the devil” by Haitians in the 1700s.

Robertson should retire from public life. Can’t any of his friends on the Christian right prevail upon him to give the 700 Club to a younger and saner host? Robertson’s foolish utterances do immense harm to the image of Christianity — especially among those who didn’t grow up going to a Christian church every Sunday, as I did. Those not familiar with the vast range of Christian beliefs think Robertson represents all Christians — and that’s just not so!

If the New Testament is any guide, Christians are supposed to be non-judgemental and compassionate. Robertson is anything but. He’s also a dunce. The legend about a “pact with the devil” is myth, not fact. How insensitive it is to associate a people’s yearning to throw off the yoke of oppression with a pact with the devil?

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TnGelding

January 14th, 2010
7:46 am

Pat is preaching to his “followers” and seeking controversy and attention. He’s in it for the money, like so many other “true believers.” Imagine no religion. The world would be a better place. Nothing wrong with the tenets, but the practioners just can’t measure up.

Kay

January 14th, 2010
7:46 am

Is he just senile, or is he insane, or just a glutton for attention. He certainly isn’t a man of God.

Peadawg

January 14th, 2010
7:47 am

Kinda like the lady that pulled out in front me while talking on her cell phone this morning does immense harm to the image of women drivers! :)

Rev Al Sharptongue

January 14th, 2010
7:48 am

unfortunately Pat represents the thought process of many people.
apparently you do not read your own blogs. the vile hatred spewed by the good southern Christians on here is telling.

[...] we wonder if Pat Robertson is an operative who’s been planted by the left to make the religious right look even more [...]

Bubba

January 14th, 2010
7:52 am

You’re right. Pat Robertson is a fool. His comments about Haiti are outrageous. I agree with everything you said until “If the New Testament is any guide, Christians are supposed to be non-judgemental and compassionate.” Compassionate, yes, but where does it say non-judgmental? Should Christians have been non-judgmental toward the perpetrators of apartheid? Should William Wilberforce have been non-judgmental about the slave traders? Should Christians have been non-judgmental about Hitler? This notion of Christians not judging people usually comes from Jesus’ “let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” They always leave out the rest of the story, in which he told the prostitute, “Go, and sin no more.” See, he was being judgmental. He just didn’t think she should be stoned for her sin.

[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution’s Cynthia Tucker gets it right when she says that Robertson does not speak for Christians. What is sad is that many [...]

godless heathen

January 14th, 2010
8:00 am

When we an extremist Muslim commits an act of terror, we frequently hear it said that mainstream Muslims are not vocal enough in denouncing the actions of the extremists and therefore they are complicit in the act.

Will the leaders of the Christian mainstream be taking to the pulpits and talk shows to denounce this extremist nut-job? I won’t be holding my breath.

JimmytheNonSaint

January 14th, 2010
8:00 am

Bubba, right there, Jesus stated a fact. The woman had sinned. Mentioning a fact is not judging. He did not judge the woman at that time; nor did he condemn her, as our beloved Pat sought to somehow do. And the fact that Jesus (God…I mean, the Trinity after all) judges, mortal Christians do not and according to scripture cannot. If we are quoting, there was also that little bit about “judge not lest ye be judged”

Bubba

January 14th, 2010
8:05 am

So Wilberforce was wrong to condemn the slave traders, Jimmy?

Norman C Carr

January 14th, 2010
8:06 am

Pat Robertson needs to shut up.For years this man has used his show to promote out of date ideas.The truth is Mr Robertson, the Haitians rose up against there oppressors and like many people they called upon their native Gods and Ancestors for help.In other words there faith gave them strength.And theres nothing wrong with that.

ann brown

January 14th, 2010
8:10 am

Obviously, the devil speaks through pat robertson

TF

January 14th, 2010
8:13 am

As I do not expect republican leaders to speak for all republicans, Mr. Robertson does not and can not speak for all Christians. His rhetoric has played its course. I am a firm believer in Christianity, fanatacism leads to insensitivity and self degradation.

Turd Ferguson

January 14th, 2010
8:14 am

Never heard of the Haiti/Devil/Earthquake accords, however, Pat is out there. Kinda like Orifice Roberts who, at one time stated, “if he didnt receive “X” amount of dollar by “X” date the Lord would call him home”.

Luckily for us he received his cash infusion/transfusion.

While the new testament does state “Christians are supposed to be non-judgemental and compassionate.” Many get such terms confused with the realities of a particular situation. And you know who you are.

quod erat demonstrandum

January 14th, 2010
8:14 am

At one time, he may have had some influence, but as he gets older – well, there you go again.

Sylvia

January 14th, 2010
8:19 am

This is one sick man!! we do not worship a vengeful God. My God is a forgiving loving God that allows me to feel safe in the arms of his Grace.

I cannot believe that we continue to feed this man’s ego but putting him on TV and allowing him to spout hate and ugliness. The fact that he call himself a reverend is in itself a giant joke. He would not be allowed to minister to me. He’s a money hungry, vengeful, spreader of fear and hate. Shame on him for turning a horrible disaster into something that brings profit to himself.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

January 14th, 2010
8:20 am

REMEMBER CYNTHIA PAT ROBERTSON COME FROM THE SOUTH AND A TIME WHERE CHRISTIAN WHITES WOULD BURN DOWN BLACK CHRISTIAN CHURCHES,WAKE UP CYNTHIA YOU ARE STILL IN THE WICKED SOUTH,WHERE THE REDNECKS ARE STILL MAD BECAUSE THEY LOST THE CIVIL WAR,O’YEAH DEATH TO DIXIE!

henry

January 14th, 2010
8:21 am

Pat robertson is the devil! i wish he died during his heart surgery
someone needs to take him out!

Dan Benson

January 14th, 2010
8:23 am

George Washington made a pact with the devil before the battle of Trenton,to drive the English out of the colonies. God sent a snow storm to stop him ,but he crossed the Delaware anyway. Pat Robertson is the curse we received.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

January 14th, 2010
8:24 am

PAT ROBERTSON WAS GLAD WHEN 9-11 HAPPEN,HE ALSO WAS GLAD WHEN HURRICANE KATRINA HIT NEW ORLEANS,PLUS HE IS HAPPY THAT THE EARTHQUAKE HAPPEN IN HAITI! IT SEEMS LIKE PAT ROBERTSON HAS THE SAME AURA OF SATAN,KILL STEAL AND DESTROY!

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

January 14th, 2010
8:27 am

PAT ROBERTSON AND BUSH SOLD THEIR SOUL TO THE DEVIL WHEN HE WAS SCREAMING FOR US TO BOMB IRAQ,WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11.

Dan Benson

January 14th, 2010
8:29 am

For anyone who thinks this fool has no influence and that he is senile and irrelevant has to look no further than the Governor of Virginia.
McDonnell is a Robertson disciple and clone. Has the Va. governor commented on this?

Williebkind

January 14th, 2010
8:30 am

Pat Robinson or Rev Wright, there is no difference? Both teach their personal beliefs and not the Word.

mammamamma

January 14th, 2010
8:31 am

ok pat robertson is an extremist/christian. He is out of line, but not making up this stuff. There was a man called Dutty Boukman. He was a vodoo preist & initially used vodoo aka magic(work of the devil not God) to free the slaves. They did become free. I know that this was used in Jamaica among other places too. It derived from Africa. Any how Vodoo is a huge part of Haiti & New Orleans too. They both sufferd huge catastrophes ? I don’t know why or how God works but he has been know from the bible to do serious things to the wicked. Floods, plauges, etc….. This kind of event can be used as a lesson an wake up call to everyone. That life is short and you never know when your time is up. No matter who you are you should be prepared.

Williebkind

January 14th, 2010
8:31 am

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

January 14th, 2010
8:27 am
How many glasses of kool-aid have you downed this morning?

Orlando

January 14th, 2010
8:32 am

It feeds on fear. It thrives on controversy. It courts the confused.

Joey

January 14th, 2010
8:32 am

I agree about Robertson.

Can we name a few dozen people who harm the image of Islam?

Does Jimmy Carter’s ramblings harm the image of Georgia? Of Democrats?

Commisar Obama

January 14th, 2010
8:33 am

(never) Retire Cynthia Tucker.

godless heathen

January 14th, 2010
8:33 am

“Pat Robertson is the curse we received.”

LOL. It’s just too bad that many of the superstitious folks take this joker seriously.

I just scanned the major news web stories looking for Christian leaders denouncing Robertson for his comments. Didn’t see any.

Athiest Aussie

January 14th, 2010
8:34 am

Sorry America, But you do breed some goodones over there. Thankfully I’m an aethist and just laugh in disgust at such trollop. Mind you, if I did believe in God, perhaps I reckon God might just take Pat and sit him on his clouds for a long long time- before sending him to pergatory. That guy is an evil man and I’ve just read elsewhere that he is publicly funded????????????????????? He has not only done Christianity irreversable damage- he’s also affected your dying empire beyond belief!

Ney

January 14th, 2010
8:34 am

The Bible warns us that the biggest danger will come from inside the Church by means of false prophets. This so-called evangelist is one the many people who chose to serve the accuser (Rev 12:10) while maintaining the image of a virtuous person. In a moment which people are desperately in need of our love and help, this man prefers to condemn. This is not the gospel, on the contrary. He preaches hate, not the love of Christ. Moments like this are the best for us to receive His love and understand that God is always there, waiting for us to reach out to him and receive his blessings, but there are many false evangelists like this one that prefers to assault the weak. “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven”. Christ vehemently fought against the Pharisees of his time, that followed a cold interpretation of the Law and had no compassion for their neighbor. May the people of Haiti receive the true love of Christ.

mammamamma

January 14th, 2010
8:34 am

Ok judge lest ye be juged. A little bit of the Bible for Pat Robertson.

say what?

January 14th, 2010
8:35 am

Sad that he has had a bible in his hand for many years. Unfortunately, he has never read it. Please stop speaking and interpreting for God.

Robert

January 14th, 2010
8:36 am

ok look it up before you speak IRAQ was hiding al quida it is public so look it up. so yes iraq did have something to do with 9-11 and as a former army member i have one thing to say. grab a gun and join our young men and woman on the line and find out what they do and know or SHUT UP and support them. Im not republican or democrate and I have read most of the bible. what all of these preachers fail to tell everyone when they say that war is bad and of the devil is that in the bible it says THERE WILL ALWAYS BE WAR AND RUMORS OF WAR. so noone is selling thier souls for war when your god says there will be war. Pat Robertson has just lost a lot of people with his remarks.

mammamamma

January 14th, 2010
8:39 am

Jesus sufferd too, remember. Everything happens in Gods plan. Why I don’t know. God help the people of Haiti & I pray the find Jesus. He’s there even in darkness.

Blake

January 14th, 2010
8:40 am

Cynthia,
Do all the AJC readers a favor. While you are helping Pat Robertson to make his application at Social Security in order to retire, grab one for yourself, fill it out, and join him.
You might be “tweeting” a different tune, but you are both..”birds of a feather”! :-)
Smiling at you from a “nice” zip code. :-)

Sighko Sis

January 14th, 2010
8:41 am

Pat would have blamed it on Haiti’s embrace of gays, just as he did when hurricanes hit Orlando. Except Haiti is just as homophobic as he is, so he had to reach even further into his little bag of fear and hate.

Tom

January 14th, 2010
8:41 am

I do not know Pat’s words or context but the comment, as positioned here, seems inappropriate. However, I can’t help but notice how many comments posted here are judgmental and intolerant. It could be argued the group represented by many of these comments represents a religious dogma of hate, harsh judgment, violence, prejudice and intolerance. Intriguing irony.

lineville

January 14th, 2010
8:43 am

Sorry to say Tucker attended Auburn University. Still wondering how we could manage to give the University of Alabama credit for this racist, ultra-liberal idiot

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

January 14th, 2010
8:44 am

1 QUESTION I THOUGHT PAT ROBERTSON SUPPOSE TO WALK AND TEACH LIKE JESUS?

HE WALKS AND TEACH LIKE SATAN! THE EVIL ONES ARE BEING EXPOSED IN THE LAST DAYS! ALL PRAISE BELONG TO GOD!

mammamamma

January 14th, 2010
8:45 am

Episcopalian

January 14th, 2010
8:48 am

I have seen dementia before…and now I see it again. I met this man once many years ago at a Resort where he was giving a speech to an in house group meeting. A political group actually. I asked him how a MINISTER of GOD could press his religious convictions on any political group of people. He informed me and I quote, ” I am not a Minister of the God. I am a business man and the CEO of a large Christian Television Network. Obviously he was right…he isn’t a Minister of the Gospel..never was, never will be. Like so many televangelists of the time and even now, it can seem it is more about the money than anything else. It is time for this fella to step down as he has once again proven himself an embarrassment to his organization, and given Christianity a black eye. Pat, what you said was horrific and may I quote a line of scripture. Jesus wept.

Dan Benson

January 14th, 2010
8:51 am

Godless heathen, You think that was a serious post.Like most sites I visit this is just another chance for the nuts to come out and trash each other rather than the person featured.Sorry for capitalizing Godless. Guess I am superstitious after all.

Michael

January 14th, 2010
8:51 am

Sure, Robertson’s a nutcase. But he’s no nuttier than wingnuts like Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck or the Tea Party crowd. The world would be a much better place without any of them.

The Snark

January 14th, 2010
8:52 am

Bubba:

“Where does it say non-judgmental? ”

Matthew 7:1. And while you’re in the neighborhood, mosey on down to Matthew 7:5.

dean

January 14th, 2010
8:55 am

We finally agree on something.

GaDawgInDC

January 14th, 2010
8:57 am

None of you know what you are talking about. Bob Mcdonnell the new Gov of VA is a breathe of fresh air over the liberal pincushion we have leaving office. Thank You JESUS for the election of Bob Mcdonnell…I Supporter of life, low taxes, and True marriage!!!! You all sound like a those killed the prophets and scoffed at them. God says to test everything…How do you know that Haiti is not under chastiment? God destroyed soddom and gommorah for their immorality…Paul said we don’t battle with flesh and blood but with spiritual principalities and powers in high places. Cynthia, just because you grew up in church does not make you a christian. That is like saying because i sit in the garage i am a car..sad to say, many that sit in the pews are not converted. It is not enough to believe..even the devil believes, Jesus said you must be born again from above….the whole world needs Christ, not just Haiti…but they have long practiced voodoo…

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 14th, 2010
8:59 am

We would all agree that Pat Robertson is to Christians what Joe Biden is to democrats.

GaDawgInDC

January 14th, 2010
8:59 am

Jesus said do not judge according to the flesh. but let your judgement be a righteous judgement….christians are to speak out on moral issues..

GaDawgInDC

January 14th, 2010
9:01 am

look at all these people judging pat robertson when they have no clue what they are talking about.

Call it like it is.

January 14th, 2010
9:02 am

I didnt know he was still alive.

Rex

January 14th, 2010
9:03 am

How would you know if Robertson is correct or not Cynthia ? You yourself have presented myth as fact many many times in your columns over the years. From reading you it does not appear you put much stock in christian values, you just like to talk about being raised as a church goer…in essence, a typical liberal hypocrite. Raised in church but all for the killing of unborn babies and protecting the rights of terrorists….Who knows how God really runs things ? You don’t know if Robertson’s theory is correct or not….I and many others think it’s high time YOU RETIRE Cynthia

lovelyliz

January 14th, 2010
9:03 am

A pact with the devil. Is that what they call getting involved with Charles Taylor, illegal gold mining in Liberia and funding violence in Sierra Leone?

lovelyliz

January 14th, 2010
9:04 am

Or does Pat Robertson just think they are all godless Catholics in Haiti?

godless heathen

January 14th, 2010
9:05 am

Dan Benson,
Nothing gets the thumpers going like mentioning superstitions.

FYI, we are both atheists. I just believe in once less god than you do.

GT Falcon

January 14th, 2010
9:10 am

Where are all the smart scientists that can predict severe earthquakes? Where were all the scientists that knew an event like Katrina was going to occur? Where’s all this science that can explain everything? If you all keep putting your faith in man and his ability… you will be sadly disappointed. There is a GOD and he is a GOD of love but he also a jealous GOD that does not want to see another psuedo-God or man worshipped before him. If Hatian voodoo wasnt a prevalent fact then people would have never heard of it before. I may not be the most articulate person in the world but I believe you know what I’m trying to say.

ctucker

January 14th, 2010
9:12 am

For my next act “Cynthia Tucker harms image of journalists”.

Gregthegreat

January 14th, 2010
9:14 am

I love all the people talking about voodoo as if it’s evil and associated with the Devil. Did you know modern voodoo embraces Christianity and worships the same God (ironically, so do Muslims and Jews). Voodoo is just more focused on “balance” than traditional Western Christianity.

But to suggest, like “GaDawgInDC” that this is God’s work is to not understand what the teachings of the Bible are really saying. Looks like you wasted a lot of time in those church pews, hearing the words but failing to listen to the meaning.

Atlanta Native

January 14th, 2010
9:15 am

I agree with Cynthia! But then again, saying Pat Robertson is an idiot and has bad theology is right up there wit “polar bears have white fur”.

Slobby Bobby

January 14th, 2010
9:15 am

Come on woman. There will always be extreme nutjobs that spew their moronic beliefs. No one even cares or pays attention to them. You have first hand knowledge of this – look in the mirror.

Joel

January 14th, 2010
9:16 am

I am all for Pat Robertson’s retirement. What about that race baiting waste of space, Cynthia Tucker, should she too retire?

Hairy Banana Reid

January 14th, 2010
9:18 am

When Pat Robertson goes to church, he sits in his own pew.

I’m serious.

Shannon, M.Div.

January 14th, 2010
9:19 am

“Where does it say that Christians are supposed to be non-judgmental?”

Matthew 7:1. Asked and answered.

Why don’t you actually *read* your Bible before going around and thwacking people on the head with it? Contrary to popular belief, Jesus didn’t come to earth, live, and die so that you could live tax-free and love only your family.

Mark Ira Kaufman

January 14th, 2010
9:20 am

Contrary to the author’s claim that Robertson’s twisted rhetoric do immesnse harm to Christianty, I believe that most intelligent people understand that this man is a crackpot, a xeonphobic self-righteous bigot who no more represents Christians or Chrtistianity than O.J. Simpson represents professional athletes.

I am not a Christian. I never have been a Christian. But it is clear that the countless compassionate, honest, loving, just, righteoue Christians in the world are more than sufficient in number to prove that Robertson is a moral mutation.

Gregthegreat

January 14th, 2010
9:21 am

Shannon: excellent point. He even actually stated that you should pay all your taxes, and warned tax collectors (who were easily corrupted) to continue to do their jobs, but clean up their act.

cindy loo who

January 14th, 2010
9:24 am

cindy, why don’t you retire along with pat robertson, jesse jacka$$ & al simpleton. The world would be a much better place.

bart

January 14th, 2010
9:25 am

Sadly he represents a core of extreme right believers many of whom are in the south. They hate gays, love guns, oppose abortion, hate the President, hate all Muslims, and are perpetually angry. They are about as far from Christianity as they can be, but they profess to “good Christians.” These extremists have just about taken over the Republican Party, and even the so-called mainstream Republicans are “bowing down” to this group. Very disturbing.

Shannon, M.Div.

January 14th, 2010
9:29 am

Greg–yep. And as we all know, Jesus had a habit of hanging out with those tax collectors and prostitutes, etc. Did Jesus demand they clean up their act before he’d hang out with them? No. When they changed, it was the result of being with Jesus, not the precondition. Come to think of it, Jesus drove out demons from the possessed–He didn’t give them lectures about how it was their own fault. And when Jesus fed the multitudes, Jesus didn’t first put them through an ideological litmus test.

I am so SICK of people trying to point to Jesus to justify their prejudices and their selfishness. As Ann Richards used to say about Bush Sr., a lot of these folks were born on third base and think they hit triples.

rdh

January 14th, 2010
9:30 am

I can’t believe it, but I am actually agreeing with Cynthia for the third time in a week. This guy is a joke to Christians and Conservatives alike.

Jack

January 14th, 2010
9:31 am

Just another example of the scary prospect of any extremist, left or right, getting too much power. This guy needs to hang it up and stop spreading his skewed view of right and wrong, faith and divine intervention to the sane world. What a pathetic example of a “Christian” !!

sam

January 14th, 2010
9:35 am

how many of his good christain listeners called in to the 700 Club and complained? I’ll bet not one…he is a disgrace to true christianity.

Michael

January 14th, 2010
9:37 am

Shannon, why don’t you read verse 2. I will post both one and two here for you.
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
What the Bible says is not that we shouldn’t judge others, but that we should do so carefully for how we judge other we ourselves will be judged. Now with that clarified. I would like to go on record as a Christian and say that Pat Robinson’s comments are vile and that the man should really shut his mouth. He is sounding more and more like those Westboro, Kansas idiots, and needs to step down before he does anymore damage to the Christian Church he claims to love so much!

sam

January 14th, 2010
9:39 am

i’ve never read the bible…is there anything in it about being a nutjob, TV preacher begging for people to send them money?

Hmmmmmmmmmm

January 14th, 2010
9:39 am

There obviously is no hypocrisy in this article and those commenting regarding being judgemental.
But if there was, none of you would be able to see it in your selves….now would you Cynthia and the rest. Since when is it a Christians job to please other people? If we are going around trying to please other people that makes us people worshipers and not Jesus Christ worshipers. In the old and new tesament that is called idol worship.

Ed

January 14th, 2010
9:40 am

Someone should empty Robertsons bladder bag. It sounds like he needs a breathaliser before going on the air. Mixing and abusing his political and religious slobber wastes precious air time. Is media backers should be ashamed, maybe Conan O’brian or Jay could share his air time.

Lori

January 14th, 2010
9:43 am

Pat Robertson is a insensitive jerk. But I can’t stand the “God has a plan” crowd. What kind of God has it in the plan to level buildings and kill innocent children?

sam

January 14th, 2010
9:44 am

christains are the most judgemental people on earth…kind of ironic.

GT Falcon

January 14th, 2010
9:44 am

Great statement by Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

Hmmmmmmmmmm

January 14th, 2010
9:45 am

Shannon M. and Jesus often also told them “go and sin no more”.

TheCamper

January 14th, 2010
9:45 am

Cynthia Tucker! Is she sill telling lies?
Right or wrong Pat, you sure got folks reading their Bible!
Now that yoy have do gooders judgeing you about your remarks; we now have more judges at work straitening out the world. Their opinion just like yours Pat.Way to Go, everybody likes to be judges so.
Judge not for you will be Judged.
Don’t judge others; just look at fruit trees and judge wheather they are apple, pear, orange, fig, by the fruit they bear. So Be It!

Bubba

January 14th, 2010
9:47 am

For all you who misinterpret Christian theology, I ask again, for the third time: Was William Wilberforce wrong to condemn the slave traders? Since you are all unable to answer, I will do it for you: Of course he wasn’t wrong, because Christians are called to speak out against evil. The passages of scripture you are misinterpreting mean don’t condemn others if you’re guilty of the same thing. Make sure your own house is in order before condemning others. “Don’t tell someone they’ve got a speck in their eye if you have a plank in yours.” Do you seriously suggest Christ would have us remain silent against injustice, evil and sin?

neo-Carlinist

January 14th, 2010
9:47 am

you got it backwards; “Christianity” is the embarassment, or any religion for that matter. someday, somebody smarter than me should study the relationship between religion and war and money. I’m just an average Joe, but I bet one of them brainiac scientists. better yet, why don’t we have a politician… say, like Al Gore, do a Power Point presentation on how easy it is to “sell” salvation, and expoloit the need for people to be “safe” or “saved”. or maybe that George Bush guy. he can assume responsibility for our “security” (Homeland) and identify the threats We the People seem to always miss. c’mon Cynthia, the carny-barker/snake oil crowd has been playing this good vs. evil scam since Cain and Abel. it’s a pretty good gig if you have the stomach for it.

RGB

January 14th, 2010
9:49 am

Who would’ve thought that Tucker is a regular watcher of Pat Robertson’s programs?

He said that he was “optimistic that out of this tragedy something good would come.”

Shame on him.

I’m still waiting on Tucker to call for Jeremiah Wright’s resignation. Oh, but she’s probably brand loyal to Robertson.

smart black guy

January 14th, 2010
9:56 am

well, maybe mr. Reid should Retire too for being a Racist!

rtd

January 14th, 2010
9:57 am

He has a right to speak his mind. Everyone has a right to turn off the television. I have a right to say retire Cynthia Tucker, but that doesn’t mean it is going to happen.

kevin

January 14th, 2010
9:58 am

Pat Robertson never harms christians like u want ban guns from people to….if anyone needs be removed is U Cynthia Tucker from The AJC now and where were u when Jeremiah Wright’s hate speach on Usa sayin we deserve 9-11 n god damm america oh i know he black Pat is white that its! if AJC smart (which is they is not) they say u fired Tucker!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 14th, 2010
10:03 am

If we applied Cynthia’s standard, requiring silence of loopy statements by loopy speakers, what democrat would be able to speak?

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
10:04 am

Jesus answered, “You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things MUST (emphasis addded) happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and EARTHQUAKES (emphasis added) in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.”

I’m not sure why that earthquake happened in Haiti. I do know that God does judge nations and individuals. I personally believe God is juding America right now for many of our collective sins not the least of which is abortion. Most Christians like to gravitate to the “love” part of God but refuse to acknowledge or even understand His “Holiness” and therefore His requirement for judgement. He gets to make the rules and He “judged” His people Israel many times in the O.T. whenever they turned their back on Him.

That said, when these events happen, Christians are still admonished to reach out to individuals and help them as best we can.

And the bottom line is that every individual must make a personal choice in life …….. for one day there WILL BE a final judgement.

Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me.”

Sunshine

January 14th, 2010
10:05 am

I see most of the posters here today apparently haven’t read or studied either history or the bible. If they did read or study the bible, then most certainly didn’t understand it. I agree what what Pat said was not maybe appropriate on the air. However, he is only sharing history and the bible. Most of you don’t seem to be able to grasp that. I venture to say, most of you don’t know what voodoo is. Just check out that region down there and new orleans where vodoo is practiced. As I understand it, voodoo is of Satan and not of God. God will certainly not honor that. As Pat said, how do you explain the island of hispanola…two countries side by side on the same small patch of land…one practicing voodoo and the other practicing Christianity. One a total country in abject poverty and the other, a successful economy. You naysayers may believe what you want, but we know who wins in the end. I think if I were thwacking christianity and the bible, I would give that a second thought. It isn’t what God had planned for your life or mine. HE will win in the end…believe it. You liberal leftists who have been indoctrinated by the Democratic party need to get a life and see how the other side lives. Think for yourself once in your life and don’t depend on the democrats to think for you. Stop bashing the people about whom you know nothing.

ATL Guy

January 14th, 2010
10:05 am

As President Obama would eloquently say: “He’s a jackass”.

Thogwummpy

January 14th, 2010
10:08 am

Robertson does tarnish the image of Christians….just as Cynthia Tucker harms the image of Atlanta.

JC

January 14th, 2010
10:08 am

Every time Pat Robertson opens his mouth, he sets back Christianity.

Bob Katt

January 14th, 2010
10:08 am

Cynthia,
Why don’t YOU retire? I am just as tired of your same old attitude as you are of Robertson’s. I love the way libs like you want to do what you want, but want to set “rules” for everyone else. The last I heard, we still have free speech in this country (for the moment). That extends to everyone, not just you.

Vickers

January 14th, 2010
10:09 am

Pat Robertson is a demented old fool who is acting out his self serving agenda. The lady that was sitting next to him should have reached over and slapped him. Why does anyone what his show?

john

January 14th, 2010
10:11 am

that guy is an idot, all these stand alone churches in south are in it for the money. I went to buckhead church and thought i was at a cult meeting..These are just guys peaching for your money and all of you that attend are suckers.

DHD

January 14th, 2010
10:12 am

Have you mentioned the millions of dollars that his organization, Operation Blessing, has given in medical aid to Haiti? Didn’t think you did. Somehow, you missed that, but it’s to be expected from the liberal slant of Cynthia Tucker and the AJC.

DR. EVIL

January 14th, 2010
10:12 am

I heard that the damage to their infrastructure was in the tens of dollars.

AUTiger

January 14th, 2010
10:13 am

Judging other is wrong, except when Cynthia Tucker judges Pat Robertson about his point of view. Then it’s OK.

Scientologist

January 14th, 2010
10:16 am

lmno

January 14th, 2010
10:16 am

“The legend about a “pact with the devil” is myth, not fact.”

Uh, thats kind of overstating the obvious, don’t you think?

Ric

January 14th, 2010
10:17 am

Pat does for Christianity what Ms. Tucker does for the black race.

harry

January 14th, 2010
10:17 am

Pat Robertson once again showed his total ignorance of reality and also his lack of understanding of New Testament teachings. However, freedom of speech allows us to say almost anything we wish, even if it is stupid and idiotic. The real problem is those who accept what the Pat Robertsons of the world say as gospel.

AUTiger

January 14th, 2010
10:20 am

Christians should have been more compassionate towards Hitler and slave traders according to Tucker.

Ron Mexico

January 14th, 2010
10:23 am

Pat Robertson= Everything that is wrong with religion. Thankfully I am an athiest and do not buy in these morons.

Sunshine

January 14th, 2010
10:25 am

IMNO…how do you explain VooDoo. Do you think that is a myth as well?? just askin….

Big D

January 14th, 2010
10:25 am

Cynthia, this is one time that I will somewhat agree with you…just a little. To blame God or the Devil for something they did not do IS blasphemy. Having said that if you think that is bad WTH did you not say something about REV. Wright and the effect it would have on this POS President we have. Please,as a black person take a good look at what that idiot Harry Reid said. Let me pass on what one of my best friends said ( who is very black ). Look at the mirror image of Reid’s statement. My friend’s Take ” if you are really dark, kinky haired and big lipped don’t nobody believe you got a chance in life. If you just happen to sound like where you came from you are even more stupid and undeserving. What he said was VERY RACIST if you just don’t let your liberal bias get in the way. By Reid’s definition Alan Keys would not qualify in his plantation mind set. Alan Keys is by far the best guy we have had run is the last decade and so much better a person and SMARTER than this LSN we have now. If you are going to criticize please be all inclusive so maybe you will be taken serious by the rest of us not just the ultra- left wing NUTS.

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
10:25 am

Thogwummpy, et al:

I don’t speak for Pat Robertson but ……………..

Guess who else “tarnished” the image of Christianity? Jesus and His disciples. They killed them all because of what they SAID. Killed Paul too and many other great Christian saints through history. Christians are being killed the world over today for what they SAY. This is nothing new.

Even in the O.T. the powers at hand killed a lot of the Jewish prophets who dared speak what God told them to say.

Luke 11:

47″Woe to you, because you build tombs for the prophets, and it was your forefathers who killed them. 48So you testify that you approve of what your forefathers did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. 49Because of this, God in his wisdom said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute.’ 50Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all. “

mooser

January 14th, 2010
10:28 am

Talk about hate??? Have you read some of these “hate” blogs about Pat Robertson????

Hairy Banana Reid

January 14th, 2010
10:28 am

Anyone can put any kind of spin on the teachings of the bible. It’s just a book of Man’s interpretation. We then use that interpretation in ways that were never intended to make us feel better. Get real folks.

lmno

January 14th, 2010
10:32 am

How do I explain Voodoo?

Well, there are three distinct religious beliefs. Haitian Voodoo, Louisianna Voodoo, and West African Voodoo.

The Haitian Voodoo which we are talking about is a merger between West African Voodoo and Catholism. It is a belief that there is a most powerful God who will not interfere with human affairs and subordinate gods who do interfere and through sacrifices and spells a human can get these Gods to do their bidding.

Now, if you mean do I think that its a myth that this religion exists, then no. It certainly does exist.

If you mean, do I think it actually works, like can people put spells on others, yes, its a myth.

In fact I always wonder about Christians who worry about Voodoo or witchcraft. It seems contradictory to their own beliefs. If there is really only one god and the others are all fake, then why worry about someone who tries to use a non-existent God to do something.

Its like a an adult who knows there is no Santa Claus being worried that they might not get gifts from Santa Claus.

If you worry about Voodoo or Witchcraft, then to some degree, you believe in it.

Vickers

January 14th, 2010
10:34 am

Sunshine, so are you saying that God caused this disaster on Haiti because of some mythical pact with the devil to free themselves of slavery as Robertson proclaimed? It doesn’t have anything to do with Port au Prince being on an earthquake fault?

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
10:35 am

Imno:

Voodoo (like any false religion) was hatched by Satan Himself and that is something you should worry about .

Dunwoody Mike

January 14th, 2010
10:36 am

DHD,

I recommend you take a gander online at the “assistance” Op. Blessing has provided. Robertson has used the assets of OB in support of the diamond mines he owns in central Africa, as well as to prop up Mobutu in Zaire.

forwhy

January 14th, 2010
10:37 am

Send money to me and I will cater to your judgemental hypocrisy.
Send money to him and he will cater to your stupidity.

bamaguy

January 14th, 2010
10:37 am

Isn’t he the same fool that said abortionist and homosexuals brought on God’s wrath via 9/11?

Turd Ferguson

January 14th, 2010
10:38 am

Enter your comments here

Turd Ferguson

January 14th, 2010
10:39 am

Sylvia

January 14th, 2010
8:19 am

We dont? The Bible states…”Vengence is mine, thus saith the Lord”.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
10:39 am

Regardless of Robertson’s personal beliefs about why this tragedy occured, why couldn’t he simply acknowledge this is a terrible human tragedy and extend some Christian charity?

GT Falcon

January 14th, 2010
10:40 am

What’s real Mr. Harry Banana Reid? Who made us real? Who created us? Are we just a bunch of ants on our big ant farm who will just die away or are we beings that have to be judged for our actions on this Earth? Of course man has manipulated the teachings of God. Heck everything we see and hear in all forms of media have been manipulated in some way. That’s why it’s important for you to make sure your personal walk with God is in line.

Turd Ferguson

January 14th, 2010
10:40 am

As further evidence that these pacts do exist. The song Charlie Daniels…”The Devil went down to GA). The devil being of course Roy Barnes

Aquagirl

January 14th, 2010
10:41 am

Remember, G.W. Bush hired Robertson’s college grads by the busload. Where were all you offended people then?

Patt Robertson

January 14th, 2010
10:42 am

CT,

I’ll retire when you do, you give n****s a bad name.

James Twomey

January 14th, 2010
10:42 am

Robertson is a christian and speaks for many of his so-called faith. Christians are by and large bigoted, stupid people who believe that there is a father god in the sky with a white beard who is in charge and that his son came to earth and was killed and then flew up after three days and somehow if one believes that line of crap that it is all right to hate everyone who does not believe. The world would be better off without the christian brand of evil.

Bill McLellan

January 14th, 2010
10:45 am

Mr. Robertson seems to me like a false prophet, pretending to have the inside scoop on God’s intentions.

Dan

January 14th, 2010
10:46 am

Pat Robertson is clearly a buffoon but his statement is no less true than refering to Haitians as people yearning to throw off the yoke of oppression. They apparently are not yearning hard enough. (Of course that has nothing to do with the earthquake) just the underlying liberal fantasy that peoples promblems are not of their own making I reiterate obviously the quake is not of their making,

Dave

January 14th, 2010
10:46 am

What many people don’t know about Robertson is that he never pastored a church. He was, to my recollection, the minister of education at a Virginia Beach area church, before getting into his television work. He is, in my opinion, the very worst of the televangelists. I remember my ethics professor from seminary commenting that he was “dangerous, because he was smart,” i.e., he had a real gift of communication. Too bad everything else is lacking.Even with some of the other televangelists of note, Swaggart, Bakker, Falwell, Tipton, Copeland, Parsley, et al., Robertson remains the worst because of his willingness to use natural disasters to “prove” that God hates the very same things that – surprise! – Robertson hates. Yep, good ol’ Pat – he prayed away a hurricane from Virginia Beach. And then it slammed Connecticut! Serves them right for not being, well, whatever Pat came up with to justify it. He should be ashamed of himself, yet again. But I also know, yet again, that he is not. After all, he’s God’s messenger boy, isn’t he?

forwhy

January 14th, 2010
10:47 am

Aquagirl has my vote.

OneFreeMan

January 14th, 2010
10:47 am

Christianity is filled with hate. He is a true representative of the religion.

lmno

January 14th, 2010
10:49 am

“Imno:

Voodoo (like any false religion) was hatched by Satan Himself and that is something you should worry about .”

I am not sure I understand you.

If Voodoo or witchcraft is false, then how can it harm me? Are you saying that a person can use voodoo to and stick pins of a doll of me and i will feel pain? If so, then it certainly isn’t false. I mean, if a person can use it, it must be real. If its not real (false) then it can’t be used to harm me.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 14th, 2010
10:49 am

CYNTHIA……WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE—-?????

Turd Ferguson

January 14th, 2010
10:49 am

I have found evidence of this actual pact existing in the Scriptures.

II Peter Chapter 17 Verses 31-33

“Woe unto thee oh great Haiti for thou hath sinned a great sin and made a pact with the Lord of the Underworld, Satan, that old trickster. And I shall smite your land with devils and earthquakes and landsharks.
And the Great Coconut from the north will be able to help thee not for his hand shall be bound about his waste and his feet laced with iron shackles and figs shall fill his mouth so he might acknowledge thee not.
Take heed oh great Haiti for thy judgement is at hand.”

Chuck Uga

January 14th, 2010
10:51 am

Cynthia,
You are pretty far out there yourself, politically anyway(!) Maybe Robertson said this because the overwhelming majority of Haitians are Catholic to some degree. We all know how the “TV evangelists” feel about Catholics. They know that Catholics like to donate money directly to those who so desperately need it, not to the financial empire the evangelists want to build and hold onto. Personally, I donate to Food for the Poor and many other very dedicated organizations working that area of the world. The Haititans are actually a very kind people for those who have never known anyone from there…but so very, very impoverished.

Margaret

January 14th, 2010
10:51 am

I am finding it hard to believe that there is this incredible self-serving attitude from Pat Robertson. Yes, there are many, many poor people in Haiti. But in no way could that population have caused an earthquake. Blaming the victim is a bad game. Bad things can happen to anyone and it is un-Christian to behave as though it is divine retribution for some to be victims of disaster and unfair punishment for other victims of other disasters. These are human beings who are hurt and needing help. Pat Robertson needs to find another way to spend his time – maybe he could demonstrate his leadership abilities by actually doing some good instead of running his mouth.

Boots

January 14th, 2010
10:53 am

Pat Robertson was on the cutting edge of the movement that turned Tele-evangelists into corporate entities that generate multiplied millions of tax exempt dollars that end up financing lucrative lifestyles for the “Man of God.”

And, well-meaning, but ignorant followers, are fleeced and led to the financial slaughter in order to finance their extravagance.

The Robertson financial empire has spread to the point where he is now involved in Liberian gold mining operations. At least that’s what the Washington Post reported.

GOOGLE: Pat Robertson gold mining.

Vickers

January 14th, 2010
10:53 am

I guess that the next time something bad happens to PR or his empire, it will be because God his bringing his wrath down on him because he is a false profit and blames the victims for natural disasters.

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
10:55 am

James,

Pat Robertson claims to be a Christian. I cannot confirm or deny it, only God knows his heart.
He has a BIG mouth, and uses it poorly and often. He does NOT speak for all Christians.
Pick a few random Christians on the street, and ask them if they think Haiti is being punished by God. Most of them will probably just laugh at the absurdity.
Assuming one fool speaks for a religion is like assuming Al Sharpton speaks for all blacks, or Ahmadinejad speaks for all Muslims, or that Nancy Pelosi speaks for all Democrats. Asinine.

If that is what you truly believe Christianity is, I would hope you would read up just a little, even just from a secular source. The Bible clearly indicates that Christians are to act in love. It deserves none of the blame for their disobedience. Much evil has been falsely committed in the name of most of the world’s major religions.

Comrade Obama

January 14th, 2010
10:57 am

Sure, Pat Robertson says stupid things. Lots of people say stupid things every day, like Cynthia Tucker, for example. Let’s retire both Robertson, Tucker and my administration, and the world would be a better place.

LFP6

January 14th, 2010
10:58 am

Epic fail, Mr. Robinson….epic fail.

Margaret

January 14th, 2010
10:58 am

And by the way, I heard about Pat Robertsons remarks on right-wing talk radio this morning where it was also being met with condemnation.
Cynthia Tucker is voicing the response of rational people to Pat Robertsons’ irrational behavior.
Why should anyone use ad hominem attacks on Cynthia Tucker for this? Do you think anyone CARES about what your personal beefs are with the author? Frankly, if I were moderating this I would remove them as inappropriate and not contributing to the discussion. Life is too short to have to plow through such drivel. Can’t you summon up enough brains to keep to the subject?

Vickers

January 14th, 2010
11:01 am

Margaret – I agree with you. This is not about CT or Obama. It’s about a self serving delusional old man.

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
11:02 am

Turd @ 10:49, LMAO!

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 14th, 2010
11:03 am

What about the (3) NETWORKs….Cynthia-???….ALL (3) are high-Tailing it to HAITI to boost their ratings…..IT ONLY TAKES FOX NEWs to cover this event…

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 14th, 2010
11:06 am

NONChristians commenting—-attacking Southern Christians….What a JOKE-????

lovelyliz

January 14th, 2010
11:07 am

A pact with the devil. Is that what they call getting involved with Charles Taylor, illegal gold mining in Liberia and funding violence in Sierra Leone? If so, Pat Robertson would know.

We Christians need to take a page out of the playbook we have been giving to the Muslims and officially and uncatagorically dispute when our fellow Christians in positions of power use and abuse the name of Christ.

ck hall

January 14th, 2010
11:11 am

For once you are 100% correct on this one!

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
11:15 am

liz,

I am sure there will be no shortage of church pastors who tell their parishoners to ignore the Robertsons and give generously to Haiti.
But other than maybe the Pope (who only 1/2 of Christians recognize as their leader), who is there to officially denounce Robertson?
I’ll get up and do it myself, but who cares? Luckily, Robertson has no true power. The concern with the Muslim world is that some loonies like Ahmadinejad may soon have their fingers on nuclear weapons. I’d gladly agree that Robertson is one of the last people on earth I’d trust with a nuke though!

Fang1944

January 14th, 2010
11:23 am

Commisar Obama
January 14th, 2010
8:33 am

(never) Retire Cynthia Tucker.

——————–

Could you learn to spell your lame attempt at a sarcastic screen name? It’s “commissar.”

I notice that Pat got Napoleon III confused with Napoleon I. it was Napoleon I who re-imposed slavery in the Caribbean after the French Revolution abolished it. It was Mexico that was oppressed by Napoleon III.

And he got the Devil confused with the British Empire. It was British aid plus yellow fever that helped the Haitians to kick the French out.

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
11:24 am

lmno:

Satan is very much alive and well and powerful in this universe. The Bible teaches that for reasons known only to God that he (satan) is the prince of this earth ……… for the time being. Thus this great war between good and evil. Any false religion is an attempt by Satan to deceive people from the truth. Voodoo is just one. I could name many.

Jesus said, “Satan is the father of lies and a liar from the beginning”.

Jesus also said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me.”

It’s a free choice.

What'sup!

January 14th, 2010
11:24 am

Pat Robinson harms the image of Christians — So does Cynthia Tucker and others like her!

JCR

January 14th, 2010
11:25 am

Yes, this is sad. This is terrible. It makes me weep. How I wish man would not have sinned! We live in a fallen world a world damaged by sin. Abandon your sinful ways and turn to Christ.

JCR

January 14th, 2010
11:28 am

Many “love” and “forgiving God” Christians fail to read the OT!

Seriously

January 14th, 2010
11:28 am

This is the TRUE Pat Robertson:

According to a 2 June 1999, article in The Virginian-Pilot, Robertson had extensive business dealings with Liberian president Charles Taylor. According to the article, Taylor gave Robertson the rights to mine for diamonds in Liberia’s mineral-rich countryside. According to two Operation Blessing pilots who reported this incident to the state of Virginia for investigation in 1994, Robertson used his Operation Blessing planes to haul diamond-mining equipment to Robertson’s mines in Liberia, despite the fact that Robertson was telling his 700 Club viewers that the planes were sending relief supplies to the victims of the genocide in Rwanda. In response to Taylor’s alleged crimes against humanity the United States Congress passed a bill In November 2003 that offered two million dollars for his capture. Robertson accused President Bush of “undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country.” At the time Taylor was harboring Al Qaeda operatives who were funding their operations through the illegal diamond trade.

Bland

January 14th, 2010
11:29 am

Re: “non-judgemental and compassionate.” “Humble” would be a better word than “compassionate.” It is impossible not to judge, but those who enjoy it should judge themselves.

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama

January 14th, 2010
11:31 am

I’m no fan of Pat’s…but he’s done MORE for Jesus than you have!

Karen Elliott

January 14th, 2010
11:33 am

To Pat Robertson:

If only you would be altogether silent!
For you, that would be wisdom.
Job 13:5

cbear

January 14th, 2010
11:33 am

wwjd – hmmm. People take up certain unconventional/questionable actions and life paths as a reaction to the treatment they have received or receive by their family, friends, associates over a long period of time – wether it is from being chastised, judged or envied by these same people. They end up being withdrawn and feel great defeat and guilt from these peers so they go off and “grow up” and mature in their own way around similar people – where they can feel wanted, in control and a lot happier and far away (psycologically) from their previous self-tainted contacts. It is a horrid cycle of life that has no good endings. People will always push their beliefs on others and if they get snubbed, watch out for the extreme vengence to follow. Everyone just needs to show respect of each others individuality and unique characteristics and move on with their own life – quit trying to be God themselves….

JCR

January 14th, 2010
11:35 am

Pat no more harms Christians than those who preach other blasphemy and prosperity gospels. In fact, he may be right. You all probably know deep in your hearts that he probably is and that angers you!

The Judge

January 14th, 2010
11:42 am

My people, my people, my people… if Christians “CANNOT” judge, that means “Christians” cannot be: judges, politicians, policemen, supervisors, managers, business owners, jurists, coaches or any type of position that requires a person to make a “Judgment!” Here are two common examples…

(1). John Doe applies for a warehouse job and while being interviewed, the interviewer asks JD the question, “Can you work together as a team with men and women?” And JD answers by saying, “As long as they don’t get in my effin way…” The interviewer makes a JUDGMENT call not to hire him. Based on the theology of many Christians, the interviewer just “SINNED!”

Homicide detective interrogates the husband of a wife whose body was eventually found to have been dumped in the San Francisco Bay. Prior to her body being found there was no physical evidence tying him to the crime; only circumstantial clues. But the detectives working the case made a JUDGMENT call based on those clues and declared him the perpetrator. The wife’s body was eventually found because of the JUDGMENT call made by those bulldog detectives. The victims in the case were Laci Peterson and her unborn son; the perp was Scott Peterson. Had the detectives been Christians who believe, “Christians are forbidden from judging anyone, Scott Peterson would probably be on his second or third murder by now.

Only an unlearned Christian goes around spouting out at the mouth that “Christians” cannot judge. As for Pat, my judgment is… he is one of the many narcissistic Christians who believe that their interpretation of the Bible, life, politics, economics and world events is God’s. With these Christians leaders and their followers; it’s like the blind leading the blind. Yes, Pat should go away, but he won’t because he has enough followers who started PRAISING God for blessing them with such a spiritual prophet and deep man of God to be able to see that the earthquake as well as all other earthquakes, typhoons, Tsunamis, storms, cold weather, floods high winds take place because somewhere down the line SOMEBODY made a pact with the devil???

Brother Strks

January 14th, 2010
11:43 am

It’s Christians like PAT who has the WORLD in the state it is!! George Bush!!! Who else???

You think Hitler was a Muslim!!!

Pat’s and his crowd is a crazy lot. No wonder the youths ain’t got time with their sily religion!!

URAIdiot

January 14th, 2010
11:44 am

If I can make a pact with the devil to end slavery does that mean if I make a pact with Jesus will he bring slavery back?

Brother Strks

January 14th, 2010
11:44 am

It’s Christians like PAT who has the WORLD in the state it is!! George Bush!!! Who else???

You think Hitler was a Muslim!!!

Pat’s and his crowd is a crazy lot. No wonder the youths ain’t got time with their silly religion!!

Joan

January 14th, 2010
11:44 am

Pat Robertson does as much harm to Christians as you do to common sense. You should both give it up.

Kar

January 14th, 2010
11:48 am

I think this guy is the spiritual forefather to squawkers like Anne Coulter. Say something outrageous every now and then just so people remember that you’re around.

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
11:49 am

Hitler was an atheist who despised his own Jewish heritage and was obsessed with the occult…

ncgreybr

January 14th, 2010
11:50 am

Picture this: a Muslim cleric calls the disaster is Haiti a ” blessing in Disguise”. Can you imagine the outpouring of denunciation that the person would get from the “Christian” ministers in this nation? Where’s the outrage?

Geologistsrock

January 14th, 2010
11:50 am

It’s fellows like him that make people hate religion. This earthquake has had significant scientific basis and is the reason people like that Cuban geologist could write a paper on it years before it actually happened. He’s just seeking attention in a time when others clearly need it. Pat should go home and think of how he can bring relief and recovery to the Haitians and stop showing his idiocy!

Big Wally Bicks

January 14th, 2010
11:54 am

Have you sent your check to help your brothers & sisters the Haitians yet, Cynthia?
Or will you just discuss it over lunch? BTW, what is your tipping policy Cynthia?

JCR

January 14th, 2010
11:54 am

It saddens me to see all the people here who question God.

JCR

January 14th, 2010
11:58 am

Turn away from you sin and turn to Christ.

Brother Starks

January 14th, 2010
12:02 pm

@ The Judge.
That is really kindergarden!!

You know exactly what is been said.
Play aound with your skisms and isms,
You know that you So Called Christians go around the world and pass Judgement on others.
But again, its a Christian thing.
Thank GOD I am not one!!!

Paulo977

January 14th, 2010
12:02 pm

‘GOD HAS A PLAN’? WHAT BS

Brother Starks

January 14th, 2010
12:04 pm

This is some funny stuff!!

No wonder the WORLD IS IN A STATE!!

Minister James

January 14th, 2010
12:18 pm

Pat Robertson like so many others(ku klux klan e.t.c.) probably believe the picture of Jesus is real too; but wouldn’t those cone heads hate the real image as depicted in their bible(bronze skin and hair like lambs wool). After all; the holy books “are” from Africa.

The Dogfighter Returns

January 14th, 2010
12:19 pm

When are you folks going to wake up and stop believing in fairy tales.

It took a while to realize santa was a lie, when will you folks realize that religion is also a lie. Yes it is big lie all made up. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Say after me God is a lie, does not exist.

Why have there not been more women having an immaculate conception? :) :)

It is impossible except in la la land.

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
12:20 pm

Starks,

Pot calling kettle black…come on. As if Christians are the only ones on earth who are judgmental. I think you are judging “The Judge” based on his post, and likely will with me too. So what. Human nature is to be judgmental. At least Christians have an ethical rule against it, and if they are honest they will try to suppress this part of human nature. We fail. So do non-Christians.
Funny, it always seemed to be that the most hateful judgmental language, at least from what I have seen on these blogs, are atheists. But then again, someone who thinks they are my intellectual superior will not listen to me anyway. How unfortunate for them, that they have no more rights and are no more of a human than myself. Tough noogies. We all still live, pay taxes, and die.
Sure I will cling to my religion, I don’t see it as a bad thing…

Rick Terr

January 14th, 2010
12:22 pm

Pat Robertson just said Tinky Winky is also a Voodoo Doll. He’s doing a special edition of his show. Live. Must see TV.

JCR

January 14th, 2010
12:24 pm

Naw. Jesus looks like a Jew.

The Thin Guy

January 14th, 2010
12:25 pm

Pat Robertson was certainly right about Venezuela’s tin pot dictator Hugo Chavez. We should waste him at the first opportunity. Don’t know anything about Haiti but feel for all those people who lost their lives, friends, health, and homes due to an earthquake. Have you noticed that when Americans die such as at Fort Hood, Texas, Øbungle appears to not even care but when foreigners need help his teleprompter starts rolling in no time at all. The Presidential Palace was totally destroyed which is where 99% of our aid money will go. Yes, what Pat said was stupid. But he’s an old man. What’s Cynthia’s excuse?

Davis

January 14th, 2010
12:33 pm

And just what type image do you project, Ms. Tucker? Think about it. What type image does one of today’s on line headlines about the SCLC project? I wonder if you will spin that as an approved and legitimate redirection of stimulus funds? The SCLC has the word Christian in it.

The Cynical White Boy

January 14th, 2010
12:34 pm

Your recent columns are very helpful – next time you call for the permanent shunning and immediate resignation/removal/whatever of a white republican who is caught making a racist comment, I will suggest that sane people in the media and policy positions do what YOU have done after Harry Reid was caught:

1. Label the white republican stupid, not racist, then quickly change the subject; and trot out tired subjects like:

2. TV Preachers

3. Terrorists on Planes

4. Taxing mean filthy stinking rich bankers

Nice try. You are not fooling me. Had Harry Reid been a republican, you would be fuming away column after column until he was dead white meat.

godless heathen

January 14th, 2010
12:36 pm

If the people of Haiti are not believers in the one true God, they are doomed to eternal damnation anyway. And this “benevolent” (and I might add egotistical) God feels that eternal damnation is insufficient punishment for their blasphemy, so he must get the suffering started before they leave the earth or get them on their way quicker.

Not one bit of religious dogma makes any sense whatsoever.

Thomas Dickensheets

January 14th, 2010
12:43 pm

I ask Pat Roberson what happen he’s house was destoyed by a earthquake.
Was that a curse from God?
What about Christians who went to this country to peach the gospel?
Are there Christains there?
We pray to Pat.

AuroraGuy

January 14th, 2010
12:46 pm

What Pat Robertson said is FAR worse than anything that Reverend Wright said. This is a travesty against human life! Let’s see how many true Christians and their leaders come out against this feeble man’s rant. Ghandi’s quote is very appropriate: ” I like your Christ, I don’t like your Christians, They are so unlike your Christ”.

Gerald West

January 14th, 2010
12:46 pm

Robertson exaggerates a common error in reading the Bible: confusing the Israelite religion of the Old Testament with the Christian religion of the New Testament. The Israelite religion is open only to people born to an Israelite mother. It does not, and has never, applied to anyone else. It is a tribal religion that holds the entire tribe accountable for the conduct of the individuals. Hence there is justification trying to force everyone to behave righteously in order to avoid collective punishment, and to blame calamities on tribal misbehavior.

By contrast, Christianity is a personal religion open to all peoples. Christ denounced the Israelite religion and its most devout followers, the Pharisees. He pooh-poohed the strict observance of the Sabbath (which is Saturday), he drove the money-sellers from the temple even through they were serving a necessary function under Israelite law, and he stopped the stoning of an adulteress, even though stoning is required under Israelite law.

Paul stated the situation succinctly: “Christ is the end of the (Israelite) law!”

Putting the Old and New Testament is the same book (the Bible) causes confusion that is frequently exploited by preachers and demagogues. It would be better to include all the holy books of the God-based religions including the Koran and the Book of Mormon. That way the reader could see that he must choose which to follow.

George

January 14th, 2010
12:55 pm

Insulting to think Robertson could do any harm to Christianity. He and the rest of the “high powered evangelists” speak and represent only themselves. The far right and the far left live to judge others. 5 days and counting to the beginning of the end of the socialist manifesto as Scott Brown will be the new Senator. We then can back to a clogged (which is best) gov’t.

God bless the Haitians- I encourage all to dig and contribute what they can.

SouthernGal

January 14th, 2010
12:57 pm

Religion in the number one reason the world is in such turmoil! Ban them all!

Seriously

January 14th, 2010
1:01 pm

Pat Robertson sided with an evil African dictator who financially supported Al Queda. Why? Because this “man of God” is in the blood diamond business. Pat Robertson is all about Pat Robertson. And you “Christians” who support him are just enabling him to make millions off of poor children in Africa forced into labor in his diamond mines.

I wonder what your God thinks of that.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 14th, 2010
1:02 pm

I perceive most of the criticism of Rev. Robertson on the blog today is by non-Christians publicly misunderstanding the faith. As one who professes Christ, I have to confess their arguments are generally meaningless to me. The best arguments here are those that suggest Rev. Robertson would have been more persuasive if he used his unusual perspective to raise funds from his followers, to send missionaries to Haiti immediately. We believe the spirit of Christ is manifest in the works of his followers.

Big D

January 14th, 2010
1:15 pm

Duh, Jesus did not like religon..GW is right. For all you Christian haters ask Daniel Pearl if they think Islam was jugmental in their tretment of him. Get a grip on reality here and ask yourself ” do I really know anything about what I’m saying”.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
1:23 pm

Salt and Light@ 11:24

You make these statements as if they were facts. They aren’t. They are simply what you personally believe.

I don’t disagree there is evil in this world. Much of that evil is rooted in the fundamentalist extreme wings of Christianity, Islam and Judaism. Jesus often spoke in metaphors. Assuming that he actually said what you claim he said (just having in the Bible doesn’t mean it actually happened), at the time Jesus lived, Jewish culture looked at everything as being inherently good or evil. Satan was clearly a way to give evil and temptation a face and an explanation. Today some of that evil or temptation could be explained in terms of human psychology and behavior, a science that was not known during Jesus’ lifetime.

Nancy

January 14th, 2010
1:24 pm

People, there isn’t a devil in Voudoun. And to throw your religious belief system on someone else is your SIN! Your Devil doesn’t screw others over, you do, by acting out and saying such stupid things. I would rather worship a DOG than to be forced to listen to any more of your nonsense. Out of all the religious books I have read in my life, The Koran has a passage, that applies here ( by the way, you Christians are suppose to be “People of the book”so you better take heed, or become Buddhists). It says, ” A rich man,a smart man and a beloved man came before Allah, and expected to be admitted into paradise. Allah ask the first one, the rich man why he thinks he should be allowed into paradise, and he says, I gave money to the poor, and didn’t sin. Allah replied,You gave away money to be important, you wanted everyone to know it was you, to feed your ego, you ain’t getting’ in. He turned to the next guy, the smart one, and ask the same question, and the second replied, I taught all’ with no attention for me and I did not sin. Allah said to him, You taught because you got off on the power over others minds, no paradise for you. Allah turns to the third one and ask the same, the third one says, I loved everyone equally, and I did not sin, Allah turns to him and says, You were beloved but…..not for the right reasons, you were an emotional leech, and had your way, with your influence, no paradise for you . Allah says at this point, You do what is needed, without earthly desires clouding what is the task set in front of you. You help the poor because they are in need, not for the Brownie points you think you will get in heaven. “People of the Book”, get your minds, right….or shut up and give the whole show to the Buddhists! At least. they make sense.

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
1:33 pm

Nancy,

You show lack of understanding of the Christian faith. In past, yes, there have been groups who have attempted to say one can earn their way into heaven. But there is nobody smart enough, rich enough, or good enough, to even clean the sewers of heaven (if there were such a thing). Salvation and eternal life is a gift from God, and He paid a tremendous price for it. I am not going to force you to believe this, but this is what true Christians believe, as there is no way we can get into heaven on our own efforts. Believe in what you want to, but this is the basic truth of my faith…

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
1:36 pm

It should be added that a true Christian, upon realizing the great and painful gift that God gave us, will go and do likewise for others, not for his/her own gain, but because of Jesus’ example. To sit back and not help others shows that someone does not believe in the magnitude of the gift God gave.
That’s it, enough preaching from me!

snoqualmiefalls

January 14th, 2010
1:38 pm

Nowhere in this story or the comments mentions the fact that old Uncle Pat runs a University and Law School.. so someone enlighten me, what is Pat teaching at these schools? It doesn’t look as if we are talking compassion with his brand of “conservatism”.

jhfd

January 14th, 2010
1:46 pm

like they say: everyone likes jesus, it’s christians that are the problem

Aquagirl

January 14th, 2010
1:47 pm

@ snoqwhaterver, I did comment on Pat’s Skool in a roundabout way. Shrub couldn’t get enough of those people in his administration. This is why people who voted for Bush should repair a few brain cells before approaching a voting booth again.

Seriously

January 14th, 2010
1:53 pm

“like they say: everyone likes jesus, it’s christians that are the problem”

Amen brother (or sister)

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
1:58 pm

Hey, y’all may not remember, but when Jerry Falwell similarly suggested that 9/11 was punishment from God, PRESIDENT BUSH criticized him.

Yes, evil ignorant George W. Bush, who also happens to be a Christian. My question now – will President Obama criticize Pat Robertson for his remarks? So far, I have only heard of comments by a senior administration official.

casual observer

January 14th, 2010
1:58 pm

Having been to Haiti a couple of times. Once on a humanitarian project in 06 and another for helping to catch bad guys. I can tell you it is probably worse than anything we can imagine. People already rely on handouts from humanitarian groups to simply survive. If there was ever a place that is a total failed state Haiti is it. There is little to none as far as governmental control or stability. People are illiterate and poor beyond any Americans imagination. They refuse to do what it takes to fix their problems and run their country on handouts. Much like America’s inner cities. No leadership and generational welfare is the rule. I’m sure someone will be blamed and it will probably be the hand that feeds them. Like Katrina.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
1:59 pm

I don’t follow Pat much but I suspect he is one of the prosperity Christians that believe that God wants them to be rich and powerful. As with many of the televangelists Pat’s focus is on raising money. He cherry picks things from the Bible to get people riled up – abortion, gays, Muslims, etc. but ignores things like health care, death penalty, bombing and killing innocent civilians, etc.

The last time I checked, Jesus taught us to be humble and meek and that it would be easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than it would be for a rich man to enter heaven. Given Pat’s wealth I guess that means he will be spending a long time with Satan.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:10 pm

obozo is an idiot, why does that boneheaded jerkball think that the banks won’t pass on any penalties to the customer? What a twit

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
2:11 pm

Eye of the Needle…lol. I remember hearing several prominant “prosperity” gospel preachers say how that was actually a gate into Jerusalem that camels had to squeeze thru on their knees.

There is no evidence that such a gate existed, and Jesus was implying that if you are focused on acquiring wealth you will likely miss out on the true great ride. Guess y’all can see how I feel about these fake “gospels”, eh? God never promised believers that they would have material wealth. Rather he promised that we would be persecuted. Gauging from the language of some of the bloggers here, I think you’d like to persecute me…(btw, I am not saying prosecute, totally different.)

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:14 pm

DRUG TEST FOR WELFARE – GET ON THE BAND WAGON
obonehead, peeonlosi and reIAMANDIDIOTd won’t last 2 moreyears.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:15 pm

Know guns, know peace, know safety.
No guns, no peace, no safety

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:17 pm

the “Dumbing down of America”.
Keep them stupid, keep them poor
And they WILL come back for more

Stephen Pipkin-Savage

January 14th, 2010
2:19 pm

I am just a bit ashamed of my intolerance of evildoers like Robertson, Limbaugh and the vitriolic right in this country.

just a little bit.

observing that they are mean-spirited and vitriolic and have things backwards is not bad judgement, though.

also, I fiercely oppose the evil that they are doing.

i come from a Christian background that tends to be in lockstep with the Robertson-Limbaugh stuff.
They persecuted me for being different and because I tried to prophesy to them about hypocrisy while engaging in social sins, according to them.

Now, I just try to be a good person and warn myself and others against the imposters on the right….but, along the way, I met plenty on the left.

no wonder this bird don’t fly too good….takes healthy, serviceable wings to fly…..battling each other is, well, counterproductive…..

why don’t we just cleanse the whole bird and then start over?

no, i wasn’t always this nice and reasonable and probably won’t be again. Robertson and Limbaugh particularly nauseate me at this time because of the things they say that are so wrong and so hurtful to so many and they do it, obviously, for “the money”. But they’ve always been about greed and power. so are many, many people in our country.

but there are a lot of folks, like me, who just want to DO the right thing and respectfully (now, that I’m mellow, haha) discuss the rest of it.

lots of good people in Haiti, too. we really need to just help.

LOVE,

Stephen Pipkin-Savage, 65
Clearwter, FL

SMIL84

January 14th, 2010
2:31 pm

Comments like his are the reason that there are so many atheists and non-believers. To be a Christian is reflect the love that the Lord has for us not just in actions, but in words. No one knows or ever will know God’s thought process, so Robertson has no right to pretend that he does.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
2:36 pm

And Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakahn, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton are FINE examples! WAIT! They’re BLACK! They can say and do ANYTHING! What was I saying???? Cynthia, the “Race Baiting/Race Pimp/ Race Warlord”.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:44 pm

@Randall
couldn’t have said it better myself…wait, maybe I can:
al sharptongue and jessejames jackson (save foracon for later) set up that 14 year old in Augusta on a fake rape call – remember?
Well, that says it all – they must be true christians following their Lord and savior obozo – who, i surmise, is cythia’s dreamboy.
(I would have said someting about color but save that for the white demoNcrats!

Anita Mao Dunn

January 14th, 2010
2:46 pm

Cynthia Tucker harms image of Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright harms image of Black Churches.

Rev. Al Sharpton harms image of Rev. Al Sharpton.

Louis Farrakhan harms image of crazy people.

President Obama harms image of presidency.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
2:55 pm

@Anita
I agree with you on all those points, however, The AJC has had a bad image since they employed C Tucker and Mike Luckovich. I wonder why they can’t sell papers. Gee, what could it be???

Randall

January 14th, 2010
2:57 pm

@ Jimbo
I Cynthia Tucker’s world, only Republicans and White Southerners are capable of being racist bigots. Right Cynthia?

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
3:01 pm

Randall, I recall seeing a study that looked at trends for daily newspapers across the country sometime last summer. It showed that the AJC, contrary to your opinion, has fared no better and no worse than other daily newspapers around the country.

Newspapers are dropping like flies because people are starting to get their news online and from the 24 hour news channels. Seattle lost one of its two daily papers last year due to a lack of readership.

So while it may be your opinion that the AJC has suffered because of Tucker and Luckovich, I suggest you provide facts rather than your opinion. Or at least say this is your opinion.

If their readership has fallen since these two joined the AJC staff then provide evidence not only that the fall has occured since they joined or at a more rapid pace since they joined but also empirical facts that the loss is due to them being on staff.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 14th, 2010
3:02 pm

An amusing side note: the great evil of Rev. Robertson’s statement is that he relies on the flawed leftist theory of group guilt for the sins of ancestors, suggesting that the devastation is God-exacted reparation for the sins of generations long passed. Had he argued that God was aiming at particular individuals within the culture, and that innocents suffered collateral damage, he would have a better-reasoned conservative position. (Please note I did not suggest same was a “reasonable conservative position.”)

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
3:04 pm

Randall

January 14th, 2010
3:06 pm

Ok, Swede, so your “facts” are based on you saying, quote “I recall seeing a study…sometime last summer”. Ha! Nice facts.

Janell

January 14th, 2010
3:10 pm

Although there isn’t proof it doesn’t change the attitude and the oppression that Haitians felt due to the the “myth.” If you ask many Haitians today, they believe that the island nation was under the control of the Devil and that now children born after the reign are the children of promise. Its terrible was has occurred but for whatever reason, i hope that nations united and aiding in the effort will be a testament in showing that this country has been forgotten and now it is receiving the attention it needed all along.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
3:10 pm

Randall @ 3:06

The study I saw is not needed to comment on your post.

You said readership had started dropping since these two were added to the staff but provided no facts. I am simply asking you to provide facts to back that up.

My comment was just a general observation that it doesn’t appear AJC readership is dropping more quickly than others. You allege that readership drop is directly related to these two.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
3:12 pm

@ swede
here’s evidence: I dropped my subscription based on those idiots being associated. Not an opinion, just the facts maam.

Big Wally Bicks

January 14th, 2010
3:13 pm

@Gerald:
“Robertson exaggerates a common error in reading the Bible: confusing the Israelite religion of the Old Testament with the Christian religion of the New Testament. The Israelite religion is open only to people born to an Israelite mother.”

Most EXCELLENT point!! The OT and the NT are two different creatures. Most so-called Christians don’t have a clue. The OT God and the NT God are obviously two different entities. The great divide that developed between Jews and Jesus late in Jesus’ ministry, the utter rejection of Jesus as Savior by the Jews is plenty proof of it.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
3:21 pm

Swede
You submit that The AJC has lost subscribers, yet, you seem to have “proof” that Tucker and Luckovich had nothing to do with it. Yet, you admit their loss of subscibers. I suppose the subscibers they lost had nothing to do with these two? Aboslutely none.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
3:24 pm

@Swede
Jimbo, you and I, and 3 of my neighbors did the same thing. Okay, there’s 5, that is a fact.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
3:38 pm

Randall

I never said I had proof that the loss was due to them. You are the one that said they did.

Just because you have 5 people who say they stopped taking the paper doesn’t make the overall loss a result of them. I have no facts to establish this but it is also possible that there were new subscribers that took the paper because it offered opinion they liked.

So there could have just as easily been 5 people that subscribed for the exact opposite reason.

I for one don’t take a newspaper or stop taking it because I don’t like individual contributors. I stopped taking the AJC because I simply didn’t have time to read it.

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
3:38 pm

i think pat robertson IS the devil! hesure talks to him a lot

Byron Mathison Kerr

January 14th, 2010
3:40 pm

With the deaths of Jerry Falwell in 2007 and Oral Roberts in 2009, that automatically taps Pat Robertson as “Grand Wackadoodle” of the Christian evangelical fundamentalist media giants.

At the end of Robertson’s reign, I suppose next in line will be Rick Warren, who was invited under controversy to be part of President Obama’s inauguration ceremonies. This is the same Rick Warren who is now desperately trying to distance himself from unintentionally influencing officials in Urganda to codify human rights violations — and even crimes against humanity!! — targeted at the gay citizens and their family, friends, and aquaintances of that country: Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill.

I miss Billy Graham, now 91. At least he focused mostly on the loving and compassionate teachings of Christ as the mainstay of his Christian message. But, alas, he was from a more civilized time than the current divide, conquer, and destroy mission era of contemporary Bible thumpers.

j allen

January 14th, 2010
3:44 pm

Pat Robertson often puts his foot in his mouth and did not fully expand on this. There are certainly conquences for bad behaviour both as individuals and nations. Sometimes it is easy to see the cause and the consequences of such actions. Other times it is not so easy to understand. It is obvious that Hatti is not a righteous nation but what is the cause of this? Well, that is difficult. Leave it to God and move on with his His work. However, I do observe this. Why can our government move so fast to help a nation that has nothing to offer our nation and yet when our people were dying and suffering in New Orleans the government was so slow to act. When the military was just a few hours a way and the President watches it on the news? While Obama is using the National Credit Card to help Hatti, who is going to pay for all this? Does anyone care? The day of the free ride and easy credit will soon come to an end and then who in the world will be there for America? Hatti needs help. IT has always needed help and will always need help. There is not enough money in the world to fix Hatti. They will need permanent welfare from the U.S. That is probably what they will get. Most of the money will go into a sink hole and be lost forever for nothing just like most goes for nothing in most situations like this. Sad, so sad. Where is accountability?

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
3:44 pm

@ janet
I didn’t know Pat was talking to obama!? The REAL DEVIL

Williebkind

January 14th, 2010
3:53 pm

Are we helping CT prolong her career?

“The Truth is my shepard and I will not be in need. I walk thru the valley in the shadow of socialism. I fear no liberal for my absolute Truth is with me. My Truth and constitution comfort me. I lay down with no liberal for fear of abortion. The Truth prepares a table before me in the presence of progressive liberals and atheists. My head is annoited with altruism and my life is filled with Truth. Surely goodness and love will follow conservatives and they will dwell in the House of Truth forever.” Just thinking!

MORON

January 14th, 2010
3:54 pm

PAT ROBERTSONS IS A FREAKING MORON…….WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP HE IS….

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
3:56 pm

yeah, well if he’s so christian why does he talk like that?

Drifter

January 14th, 2010
4:02 pm

There a lots of Christians doing lots of good for the people of Haiti and in the midst of it all, we focus on what Pat Robertson thinks? There’s something wrong with the media.

Pat is a no different from any other media ***** (prostitute). With him and his kind, there’s no such thing as bad publicity.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 14th, 2010
4:02 pm

CYNTHIA….I am sure you are very concerned about the CHRISTIAN image-???

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
4:06 pm

let’s all get off this pat robertson idiot and jump on the wagon to help haiti, we’re all humans aren’t we?

Dr. Alan Phillips

January 14th, 2010
4:08 pm

Cynthia you are right on target, this man is unreal!

As a retired pastor and educational administrator I take strong exception to the comments of Pat Robertson. Men, women, boys, girls, babies, Americans, Christians, care givers, Christian agency personnel who have traveled for years to Haiti to help were also killed.

I must ask him, Mr. Robertson, whom do your represent? A loving caring God who gives life or yourself as an ego centric exhibitionist who needs strong Biblical and ethical correction? You are wrong in making that type of a statement just to attract attention to self. When you make outlandish statements that alienate people from the church and Christ’s words you to do a great disservice to the cause you falsely claim to advocate. Why not sell all you have and give it to the poor? That’s not my admonition those are Christ’s words.

You would be well served to apologize to those thousands trying to help Haiti, for you unbelievable words! My hope is that the elders of the true church would give you the strictest sanction of discipline possible. They probably won’t but I am personally disappointed in your pathetic history lesson for the suffering people of Haiti. They are not cursed by God for some supposed action they had no part in. I agree completely with Cynthia Tucker, retire now!

Dr. Alan Phillips, Sr.
Bloomington, IL

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
4:14 pm

DR.Alan Phillips, you said it all. very good

Brenda

January 14th, 2010
4:20 pm

What kind of nonsense is this man sputtering? Does he have a copy of this ‘devil pact’? How does he know this? Pat Robertson is a moron and is poisoning the minds of the public who look to him as a religious leader. Hopefully, none are simpleminded enough to listen to, let alone believe this hubris.

Tom Middleton

January 14th, 2010
4:24 pm

Coupled with the Golden Rule, “not judging others” implies action – not meting out the punishment. We’re supposed to be able to tell right from wrong, good from evil, but it’s how we respond (through action) that makes us clean or unclean in the eyes of God.

And if people winning their independence (freedom) is “making a pact with the devil,” as Pat says, then we’re all in trouble. I think we now can see what kind of president Pat would have been!

Ed

January 14th, 2010
4:26 pm

If Pat knows god in person he should spend his time front lining our troops – maybe he could use his powers to bring the war to an end. Come on Mr. Robinson, lets see what your made of. We couldl send Rush to keep you company.

Kenya West

January 14th, 2010
4:30 pm

“Barrack Obama hates white people.”

Pulitzer Prize Winning Bloggist

January 14th, 2010
4:37 pm

Arguing with idiots in this blog is like going deer hunting with an accordion.

The Dems are in a complete meltdown.

The American people are furious and heads are going to roll in November.

Make I please get the check for my award now?

Joseph

January 14th, 2010
4:44 pm

“Judge not lest ye be judged” Why can’t these Ego-maniacs just follow the words in RED and shut the HELL UP
GEE PAT I hate to see whats in store for you. MAN OF GOD….. LOL

kovypleasestay

January 14th, 2010
4:48 pm

Dear Pat:

It was Napoleon I, not Napoleon III.

Sincerely,
Sanity

Alex

January 14th, 2010
4:49 pm

Escaped African slaves in Haiti fought a guerrilla war against the French for generations before achieving independence. If the Devil had anything to do with it, he sure took his sweet time. If you want a more rational explanation for the Haiti/Dominican Republic disparity than God’s wrath, I suggest reading Jared Diamond’s “Collapse.”

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
5:23 pm

Swede Atlanta:

I hear you sir and of course you are free to believe whatever you want. However, in my opinion that’s just what he (Satan) wants you to believe …………. that he doesn’t exist.

Now, I obviously believe in God and in particular I am a Christian. I believe that by faith. That said, I would argue that since there is a God that He would have the power to leave us a book about what He desires that is at least accurate enough for us to understand and live by.

Father Michael Gandy

January 14th, 2010
5:26 pm

Pat Robertson is a stupid old man that says stupid things. Everyone knows that the 700 club only wants your money. Do not feed the fat pig. They are so fake. We all see that.

Pete

January 14th, 2010
5:28 pm

I actually listened to Pat Robertson’s statements on the Haitian earthquake on Good Morning America and I have to say that while some of the wording he used might have been more tactfully delivered the context in which he meant it was hardly condemning or “racist” of the Haitian people, Dr. Robertson’s statements were made in the light of attempting to show how a righteous God judges sin, not only an individual’s sins, but also a nation’s sins (Exodus 7; Judges 6:1; Daniel 5).

God also offers repentance for sin for a nation (2 Chronicles 7), so before anyone attempts to condemn an ill-spoken but well intentioned commentary on the Haiti Crisis, let he (Robertson’s Leftwing anti-Christian critics) who without sin cast the first stone!

Lee

January 14th, 2010
5:29 pm

Muslim fundamentalists are often violent and irrational, and many Christian fundamentalists are equally extreme and unprincipled. Sincere Christians must speak out against using the name of God to engage in such destructive behavior.

lovelyliz

January 14th, 2010
5:34 pm

Pat Robertson has just proven himself to be another false prophet. He’ll condemn others while using Christ for his own financial gain. That’s what happens when you go into business with an African strongman who was killing his own people and funding violence in another country all so your investment in illegal gold mining in Liberia continue to pay out.

Praising Charles Taylor as a fine Baptist is a slap in the face of truly good Baptists and other Christians. It also shows just what type of Christian Pat Robertson is.

Father Michael Gandy

January 14th, 2010
5:36 pm

Pat Robertson is a joke. He always says stupid things. Everyone knows that the 700 Club just wants your money to spend on themselves. Do not feed the fat pig. Pat Robertson and the 700 club is a big joke for stupid people.

ck hall

January 14th, 2010
5:41 pm

We need you to do a story on the SCLC thefts..

Toni

January 14th, 2010
6:35 pm

Whatsoever things are pure and lovely, think upon those things. No one is all good or all bad. We have to learn to see what’s good in others and allow the grace of God to cover the bad. I think what Pat Robertson was saying is that there are principles in the Bible that God clearly defines as His will, and if we violate those principles we can expect to reap a harvest of destruction. Our battle is not against flesh and blood, it is a spiritual battle against satanic forces. As has been stated, voodoo is rampant in Haiti – a satanic practice is rampant in Haiti. What good can come of that?

George

January 14th, 2010
7:29 pm

Dr. Alan Phillips- no reason to reach out to CT- she will not lift a finger for anyone. She exists only to judge others.

For the sincere people- pls send what you can to help the Haitians-

Yolanda Gilliland

January 14th, 2010
7:34 pm

Pat Robertson must think he is God to decide who should be punished for their sins on earth. I thought all people could receive forgiveness and mercy because God is a loving God. I now remember the reason I left the Pentecostal faith when I was very young. If this represents real Christianity, then many people will be driven far far away from it!!

Tootie Kaste

January 14th, 2010
7:41 pm

Pat has really outdone himself this time. He must have a different God than the rest of us. Oh well, this email won’t do any good…they will trot him around for years as ignorant people still buy his books and send money. He forgets God’s commandments and yes he will answer some day for what he said. ps I read it all…no ducking what he meant. Send him to Haiti for the relief effort!

Yolanda Gilliland

January 14th, 2010
7:44 pm

Pat Robertson, I wonder how others would judge you if you were caught in a natural disaster. It just so happens that the Earth is always changing and there are many hot spots or rings of fire, and faults in the Earth. There will always be earthquakes and volcanic eruptions in various places on earth. It is called nature and has nothing to do with sin!!!!

Yolanda Gilliland

January 14th, 2010
7:51 pm

Williebkind

January 14th, 2010
3:53 pm
Are we helping CT prolong her career?

“The Truth is my shepard and I will not be in need. I walk thru the valley in the shadow of socialism. I fear no liberal for my absolute Truth is with me. My Truth and constitution comfort me. I lay down with no liberal for fear of abortion. The Truth prepares a table before me in the presence of progressive liberals and atheists. My head is annoited with altruism and my life is filled with Truth. Surely goodness and love will follow conservatives and they will dwell in the House of Truth forever.” Just thinking!

Full of hate and loathing is what you are, not so different from Osama Bin Laden and other fanatic religious people who distort religion in favor of hate! People are of no importance, right, only your blind ideology that promotes more and more hate for all mankind except those who you narrowly believe are “saved” and will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Maybe you and Osama Bin Laden will hang out in heaven together.

Yolanda Gilliland

January 14th, 2010
7:56 pm

My final blog. . . please send money to legitimate organizations to help the victims (and that is what they are) of a tragic natural disaster in Haiti. Thank you!

Yolanda Gilliland

January 14th, 2010
7:59 pm

Oh, my comment about hate and loathing was directed to Williebkind.

I do not share any of those opinions that Williebkind believes!!!

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
8:06 pm

Hummmmm ……….. now, I know some of you will tout allegroy, parable, fiction, fairy tale or whatever, but I wonder what you libs. will think about this if you’re still around and it “really does” happen:

Revelation 19:

“I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to STRIKE DOWN THE NATIONS (emphasis added). He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
8:07 pm

P.S.

“Even so come Lord Jesus.”

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
8:28 pm

This O.T. verse is believed by many Bible scholars to refer to yet future prophetic events ……….. Hummmmmmm :

Ezekiel 38:

‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great EARTHQUAKE (emphasis added) in the land of Israel. The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.”

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
8:36 pm

Matthew 24:

“As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,[a]‘ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and EARTHQUAKES in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 1At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 1and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 1Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 1but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 1And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”

Dave

January 14th, 2010
10:20 pm

Reading “Salt & Light’s” proclamations from the Bible reminds me of the old story about the little old church woman who would swoon whenever she heard the word “Mesopotamia” pronounced….

You can spout off scripture all you want – PR is still a smart yet foolish man prone to sticking his foot in his mouth because of the outlandish bull**** that spews forth from his mouth on occasion.

Nikkisha N.( N.O)

January 14th, 2010
10:34 pm

Wow!!! Buildings’ falling on babies and military dogs locating dead loved ones is a blessing in disguise. The massive death, lost of shelter, lost of self is reminiscent of a blessing!!!! The exodus of an entire country is a blessing to you-PAT. Revival under the Biblical context is a blessing and your reprehensible statement is appalling and nefarious. PAT, you are the reason that there is a massive influx of people turning away from God. Your comment is bursting with the bile that occurred during the Slave Trade and continues to fester in the marrow of the human body. Your Christian ideology stretches and explodes as millions of people are devastated and grieve for the loss of life!!! I am ashamed at this very moment for every believer, and ashamed that your stinking thinking is embedded and rooted in hatred. Christians must always remember that life and death is in the power of the tongue. So, shut your mouth PAT, open your bible, fall on bended needs and worry about where your soul shall rest in the afterlife. May God help you, and person’s who contribute to your initial immoral thoughts!!! I am proud of my country, America, and proud of every country that is lending a helping hand- MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
11:31 pm

To Dave:

PR can be correct, half-correct, misinterpreted, or just plain wrong. It doesn’t matter.

God’s Word above is truth and as I have seen before on these threads if you have problems with it take it up with “the” Editor. I’m just the paperboy.

Ridgerunner

January 14th, 2010
11:52 pm

Question:

Why couldn’t we use massive U.N. and U.S. aid and military support to dissolve the corrupt country of Haiti and totally merge it with the Dominican Republic? Heck, it’s happening to the U.S. and Mexico!

Cali Lady

January 15th, 2010
12:22 am

The Book of Mormon is NOT a holy book of God. It is
an addendum to the Bible, written by a man, accounting the lives of Joseph Smith & Brigham Young. The Bible does NOT need addendums. It is written that anyone who adds to or takes away from
the Word of God will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

JOHN ODD OWL

January 15th, 2010
2:55 am

Principles of opposites are in effect in natural phenomena in external nature and in all of human endeavors. The most prevalent one being Good vs Evil. Positive vs Negative. Pat Robertson practice the negative moral vitures, non-compassionate, cold hearted, calculating, non-communal and anti social. He’s greedy, selfish, vain, conceited and narcissistic. Zionists, Christians and Islamics play the blame game. They scape goat and blame others, usually the victims for the mistakes, sin and violence they perpetrate. If you ignore what Zionists, Christians and Islamics say and simply watch what they do. You will discover that nearly all of them conjure up EVIL in the world. Moral evil conjures up natural evil. Compassion, love and caring conjures up moral GOOD. The scales of justice are out of balance. The world must re-establish equilibrium. Balance muist be maintained. Therefore i purpose that WE the People must prohibit the practice of Zionism, Christianity and Islam in America. by doing so, we could eliminate 80 % of all the violences on the planet. Secularism is the path to righteousness.

Dave

January 15th, 2010
6:36 am

I support the comment made by salt and light more than anything else I have read on this disscusion. You guys can sit and blah blah blah all you like but the word of God is unchanging. I have one piece of advice for non believers…..RUN TO GOD !!

john

January 15th, 2010
7:32 am

I know God is a loving God, and a forgiving God, God would not punish children. People tend to forget about plate tectonics, earthquakes and natural disasters strike anywhere. For someone to say that a country is opressed from a pact with the devil is crazy. Was it right for the english to come and kill and rape indians. The US soil was gone by stealing, so if haiti is being punished from something hundreds of years ago, i hate to see what will happen to the US. We are not to judge, I believe God loves us millions of times more than we can love anyone, I feel he would want us to draw together and help our fellow brother and sister in haiti. Revelations speeks of many disasters, there will be more to come, but there is no blame. This is not a perfect world, you cant be of wordly things such as sin and serve God..Its not healthy to put words in the mouth of the most high..lets just all get together and get haiti where they need to be. My prayers are with them. Sometimes people dont open there eyes until there eyes burn..Why does it take a mega disaster for people to grow a heart…i dont understand this world and dont plan to, because i know our days are numbered as the hairs on our head. nomatter what pain we go through here cant compare to hell. We must love our brother an sister while we are here. Animals help each other why cant we.

john

January 15th, 2010
7:38 am

and one more thing, true believers in Jesus dont worry about there image to other men, we care about what God thinks, so one man just because they have a tv show means nothing, our salvation in the blood of christ is individual, your relationship with God is personal. alot of people in the world do serve the darkside, but you can have the holy spirit in your own home, but think about this, God did not program our brain like a robot and there are limitations to what we can understand. things will take there course and we cant stop it, if you not saved get there, we are in the end time. God bless

john

January 15th, 2010
7:56 am

and if everyone in the world would give ten percent of what they had whether it be 5, 10, 100, 100, 100,000,000 and so on, then it would be enough to rebuild the country in 6 months, all the singers, actors, pro sports. people arent given all of that to be greedy, bill gates alone could rebuild haiti, bet says they have raised one million dollars, they need like 5 billion. most people make it off of minimum wage, are people scared of losing 1 million dollars if they have 4 hundred million dollars, its retarted. wyclef cares what he is doing is what God has led him to do..its such an emotional time this is a good place to post your aggression, please continue to post so we can sturr up some emotion and get help to those people…if its 3 hundred million americans and everyone gave 5 dollars that would be 15 hundred million dollars it would be a start..but lets give it to wyclef or care.org or the redcross

not a CT fan

January 15th, 2010
8:11 am

Pete,

Thank you for presenting a more balanced opinion of what Pat Robertson said. I bet most of the bloggers (including CT) that had harse words about Robertson NEVER watch his programs. They are basing their opinions of him on what they hear others say about him which most of the time are taken out of context. But that is just human nature I guess.

Salt & Light, enjoyed your comments – thanks!

Invisus Inauditus Impavidus

January 15th, 2010
8:22 am

To Dave and not a CT fan:

Thank you sirs and may God bless. He is still in control.

Milt Irvin

January 15th, 2010
9:11 am

The late Sam Kinison had it right: We’ve got God’s Special Ed class here in America.

Christianin SC

January 15th, 2010
9:57 am

Wright and Robertson are the same. The only differents is one is African-American and is White-American. God who is just and fair will deal both of them. Let us pray for them. The Bible also states Pat and Jeremiah that “I Have Come That They Might Have Life And Life More Abundant!” John 10:10. The devil came to destroy like Pat and Jeremiah are destroying God’s word.Shame, Shame, Shame on both of you.

Ellen Young

January 15th, 2010
11:19 am

Jim Robinson,you cannot possilby be a true Christian and believe what you said about Haiti. From now on, maybe you should ask first,What would
Jesus do?

Robin

January 15th, 2010
11:41 am

I can’t believe that Mr. Robertson’s is so ignorant. His mind is plagued with a parasite that has left him in the dark ages where closed and clouded minds utter non-sensical callous unrealistic phrases
.
If he believes in the Power of God – then he would be speaking salvation over the lives of the people in Haiti, instead of dising them with old folktales of curses and pacts. Also, I guess, Mr. Robertson’s believes in Dracula, Superman, Batman, and the practice of voodoo. He should believe in the Power of Jesus Christ and recognize no other Power with the ability to save lives, change lives, and love our lives.

Why must people of color have to make a pact with negative spirits to be free from oppressive French rulers or any man who wants to put them into physical slavery. Read Pslam 141:1-4. Ask God to keep the doors of your lips close Mr. Robertson because what you said does not make sense.I grew up admiring the historical brothers and sisters in Haiti, who stood up and proved to the world “death or liberty” as a people they would not continue to live as slaves”. It was God’s Grace and God’s Mercy that freed my people from all over the world from a legacy and history of oppression and bondage. There is no other power by which man can be free.

Retire Robertson soon!

Dave

January 15th, 2010
12:05 pm

To Salt & Light:

My comments were intended to mock your use of scripture to validate the EARTHQUAKE (emphasis ENTIRELY yours…). Yep, myself and others are just shaking in our boots because you quoted scripture – entirely out of context, I might add – but man, doesn’t it make you feel so…what’s the word – righteous?

That you would use this scripture in this way – in light of the suffering of hundreds of thousands of people – speaks far more about your lack of compassion that it does your Christian “faith.”

Shame.

Jose Carrillo

January 15th, 2010
2:23 pm

Im a Christian not by name but by the spirit I been study the direction of the Christian church here in the US and around the world they have an ayenda is what I call Theo -Political Gospel and what the bible call Apostacy very clear many times also Paul revelation on the last days I did not want to make public this study but time has come went Pat Robison talks about deal with the devil this is not christian term this is a result of this Theo political agenda . They are changing the Gospel Of Jesus for one on thier own . Jesus also alert us in Mathew 24 about this apostacy er 10 I believe we are living this catastrophe of the Christian Church by name keep paygn anything agains the Gospel of Jesus rebuke it and believe the real Gospel let them to deal with the devil in wrong teachings we can not stop it is the hearth of men to do so and fufill all prophecy stay firm in the Lord keep loving . And wen you see the abomination pray

Pat

January 15th, 2010
2:27 pm

Book of Isaiah…

My thoughts are not your thoughts
Neither are your ways my ways.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth
So are my ways higher than your ways
My thoughts are higher than your thoughts.

Pat your words are not the thoughts and ways of our Lord. He will stand in judgement of you one day. Unless you humble yourself before him for your thoughts and ways, he will bar you from his kingdom

TC

January 16th, 2010
10:36 pm

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TC

January 16th, 2010
10:39 pm

Mr. Robertson’s insensitive comments hurt almost as much as the images of those poor suffering souls in Haiti. Unbelievable!

Ashamed Christian

January 17th, 2010
2:15 am

Pat Robertson and pastors like him are a problem in our christian churches. I have seen some make outrageous comments regarding other peoples’ tragedies. Luckily, this is not condoned in the church I attend.

Thank heavens.

David

January 17th, 2010
7:10 pm

Hasn’t the right learned anything from the Oral Roberts folks, they put Daddy away till he died after his pleading for 2 million or God would kill him. Pat needs to fade into the ugly past he came from, Rush could join him, that would make a great pair don’t you think!

rhinestonecowboy

January 18th, 2010
5:01 pm

Hey Y”ALL!!

greetings from the civilized world….New York City.

Stay put. stay in the bible belt.

thank you.

Mel

January 18th, 2010
7:31 pm

GT Falcon….that’s too strange.

Mel

January 18th, 2010
7:39 pm

I just read Jimbo’s blog…have I logged onto a strange religious cult? I’ve read about some of you and it’s true, you exist….I just don’t know how!

Mel

January 18th, 2010
7:44 pm

Agree with you Dave & Rhinestone……can not believe what I’m reading on here.

Chinese Christian

January 19th, 2010
2:49 pm

I’m speaking this to Christians. If you read Bible, it’s not difficult to realize that punishments including natural disasters come from wrath of God. The most evil thing in God’s eyes is that people worship false gods and are related to evil spirits.

American Christians, take the signs and be able to understand what God tries to tell us by things happen around. Being a Christian doesn’t merely mean “being kind”. As a country as America, people take blessings from God for granted. If you have ever lived in another country like China that has been refusing God and persecuting Christians for more than thousand yeas, you would understand what curse means.

There’s a spiritual world our flesh eyes can’t see and our flesh brain cannot perceive. So don’t use our personal feelings or knowledge to accept or refuse, but the words of God in Bible. Awake “Liberal” or “Cultural” Christians.

cfinley

January 19th, 2010
4:53 pm

Thank God we have other great Christians like Pastor Jeremiah Wright to lead us out of the darkness and show us what real Christianity is all about. Yes – Robertson is a crackpot but he is not alone.

Jerry

January 19th, 2010
10:45 pm

12 muslims kill 3000 Americans on a single day, and no one is supposed to disparage the Religion of Peace. A crazy old geezer says something stupid on a TV show that no one watches, and it’s a sweeping indictment of Christianity.

ISAlcordo

January 20th, 2010
3:53 am

Addendum: What I posted is true for the United States as it is for Haiti.

Tony Macauley

January 20th, 2010
3:09 pm

From a biblical point of view:

Recently Christian critics, gossipers, and leaders have suggested that Haiti’s tribulations were brought about by a so called deal made with the devil, with the comment “true story” added as proof.

I’m not an historian and am unaware of it’s validity, but expanding on this absurd statement, true or false, intentionally suggests that Haiti prayed to Satan for freedom of French occupation and oppression and received it. Notice I said the word “prayed” instead of “made a deal with”. Reworded it suggests that Haiti prayed to the devil for their freedom and won it, “true story”.

This is a shameful statement for any basic bible student, let a lone a popular spiritual leader, and not merely for it’s lack of timing and compassion. This shamefully verbal expression voiced by a prominent Christian leader is embarrassing because it exposes the lack of wisdom, knowledge and understanding of God’s word from a leader who is assumed to be a biblical scholar, of sorts. Dan 2:21, God gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who know understanding. Knowing understanding means understanding God’s plan. It exposes the lack of a true biblical education in God’s complete plan and rather delves into apple tree fantasies, anytime doctrine, and the dead rising from graves.

Suggesting that Haiti prayed, or made a deal with Satan concludes that they were aware that God and Satan existed. If they were aware of God then why would they pray to God’s enemy for freedom? Satan and his seed is the enemy of God as well as the seed line of Adam.

Bible basics: Angels can not answer prayers or make deals. Satan, created by God, is an angel. Only God the Father can answer prayers, we pray in Jesus’ name as it gives us our Christian identity. Satan has no power over earth, he has no power over flesh, and whether Haiti prayed to him or not he cannot answer prayers.

In the book of John (17), Jesus says that he has the power over all flesh, he proved it during his earthly ministry and will prove it again at the moment of his second coming. Satan, however, has no such power.

Historically: In the book of Job, Satan was given permission to torment Job, and at the time was given freedom to inhabit both heaven and earth (2:1). He was given permission, and this is the only time it’s recorded of him actually using his influence to take life, but never has he been allowed to answer prayers. To suggest that Haiti won there freedom because Satan heard and answered their prayer suggests that God gave Satan permission to do so. This is ludicrous. It shows true biblical ignorance as it applies to God’s over all plan and the divine order in which he follows.

Further more, Christ has defeated Satan. His victory over death has Satan bound only to be released on earth prior to the second coming of Christ. Until then only his spirit is free to influence those willing to be persuaded. Satan’s only power, at this time is influence.

God’s word tells us that the earth, during it’s last generation, will experience among many things, earthquakes. It’s not because he causes them, it’s just the evolution of the earth and it’s own physical tribulation brought upon by age, abuse, and deterioration.

In the Bible, these catastrophic events are referred to as “birth pains” that the earth will experience prior to the second coming of Christ and the birth of the “new age”, (the eternal age). Jesus, and Paul speak about the new age to come and how the earth will be as a “woman who travaileth”, the closer the time of delivery the more extreme and frequent the contractions become. Until finally, the birth of the new age.

Given what we as Christians should understand about Satan’s role in God’s complete plan, the idea that Satan actually answered with “OK” to the request is absurd.

Who would he have answered to? To actually answer the prayer, deal, or request, would place him on earth, and in person. This is an impossibility and suggests that, post Resurrection of Christ, Satan has been given immunity and is able to roam the earth making deals and answering prayers in person, while God’s only access to us is through his Holy Spirit. According to the Bible, Satan will remain in bonds until released to tempt the world, as per God’s own choreography. But some would have us believe that he’s around to answer prayers and make deals and sealing them with “OK”!

Like most Christians, I believe that God’s ‘Holy Spirit’ is on earth just as Satan’s evil ’spirit’ is free to roam earth and influence those who would be, but only in spirit. But, believing, suggesting, and convincing others that Satan could possibly say “OK” is spiritually, chemically, and quite possibly an undiagnosed case of senility.

Although false, It suggests that this deal lead to the deplorable living conditions in Haiti. If so, then allowing the famine, the abundant disease, and the lack of infrastructure in both it’s inhabitants and it’s country is God’s fault. This alternative, blaming God because they (who ever ‘they’ is) made a deal with Satan, suggests that God forsook Haiti.

Nothing can be further from the truth. God does not interfere. Haiti’s living conditions are man-made, whether due to lack of global investment or internal corruption. It is written that God will not leave or forsake us. However, read the small print, if you forsake God then you are on your own. Once again this is not true for Haiti where over 80% of the population has confessed Catholicism,(for all the good its done them) as there religious faith.

Tony Macauley
2010

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D

March 4th, 2010
12:05 am

I don’t agree with Pat or most of the post on this sight. I think this country has forgotten that we are not liberals or conservatives but Americans. Yes, I may not agree with each and every one of you but we have to respect each others point of view. I don’t care what the reason for the earthquack was or why God Allowed it. What I do care about is how we respond to it. The Lord has been known to allow something to happen to another person or people to test how we (others) respond in the crisis. What we do for the lest of these, we do also unto him. Are we all missing the point of these tradgadies. People died, children were left without parents, and thousands are homeless and without medical care. Whether they practice VODOO or any other religion we as Christians disagree with, they are still God’s children. Dems and Reps or any other political fraction has nothing to do with this. We are Christians and Americans first and we need to remember that we have a God given mission to help those less off than us. I hope one day we can come together as Americans and understand that we all maybe different and have different beliefs but our ultimate goals are similar. Its our method of getting to our destination that is different. We will get there though as long as we work together and not totally self destruct due to our differences and being closed minded.