Pat Robertson harms image of Christians

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called the staggering destruction in Haiti “Biblical.” Pat Robertson saw the catastrophe in Old Testament terms, too, but he had a different take, blaming the epic tragedy on a “pact with the devil” by Haitians in the 1700s.

Robertson should retire from public life. Can’t any of his friends on the Christian right prevail upon him to give the 700 Club to a younger and saner host? Robertson’s foolish utterances do immense harm to the image of Christianity — especially among those who didn’t grow up going to a Christian church every Sunday, as I did. Those not familiar with the vast range of Christian beliefs think Robertson represents all Christians — and that’s just not so!

If the New Testament is any guide, Christians are supposed to be non-judgemental and compassionate. Robertson is anything but. He’s also a dunce. The legend about a “pact with the devil” is myth, not fact. How insensitive it is to associate a people’s yearning to throw off the yoke of oppression with a pact with the devil?

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Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:10 pm

obozo is an idiot, why does that boneheaded jerkball think that the banks won’t pass on any penalties to the customer? What a twit

Whacks Eloquent

January 14th, 2010
2:11 pm

Eye of the Needle…lol. I remember hearing several prominant “prosperity” gospel preachers say how that was actually a gate into Jerusalem that camels had to squeeze thru on their knees.

There is no evidence that such a gate existed, and Jesus was implying that if you are focused on acquiring wealth you will likely miss out on the true great ride. Guess y’all can see how I feel about these fake “gospels”, eh? God never promised believers that they would have material wealth. Rather he promised that we would be persecuted. Gauging from the language of some of the bloggers here, I think you’d like to persecute me…(btw, I am not saying prosecute, totally different.)

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:14 pm

DRUG TEST FOR WELFARE – GET ON THE BAND WAGON
obonehead, peeonlosi and reIAMANDIDIOTd won’t last 2 moreyears.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:15 pm

Know guns, know peace, know safety.
No guns, no peace, no safety

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:17 pm

the “Dumbing down of America”.
Keep them stupid, keep them poor
And they WILL come back for more

Stephen Pipkin-Savage

January 14th, 2010
2:19 pm

I am just a bit ashamed of my intolerance of evildoers like Robertson, Limbaugh and the vitriolic right in this country.

just a little bit.

observing that they are mean-spirited and vitriolic and have things backwards is not bad judgement, though.

also, I fiercely oppose the evil that they are doing.

i come from a Christian background that tends to be in lockstep with the Robertson-Limbaugh stuff.
They persecuted me for being different and because I tried to prophesy to them about hypocrisy while engaging in social sins, according to them.

Now, I just try to be a good person and warn myself and others against the imposters on the right….but, along the way, I met plenty on the left.

no wonder this bird don’t fly too good….takes healthy, serviceable wings to fly…..battling each other is, well, counterproductive…..

why don’t we just cleanse the whole bird and then start over?

no, i wasn’t always this nice and reasonable and probably won’t be again. Robertson and Limbaugh particularly nauseate me at this time because of the things they say that are so wrong and so hurtful to so many and they do it, obviously, for “the money”. But they’ve always been about greed and power. so are many, many people in our country.

but there are a lot of folks, like me, who just want to DO the right thing and respectfully (now, that I’m mellow, haha) discuss the rest of it.

lots of good people in Haiti, too. we really need to just help.

LOVE,

Stephen Pipkin-Savage, 65
Clearwter, FL

SMIL84

January 14th, 2010
2:31 pm

Comments like his are the reason that there are so many atheists and non-believers. To be a Christian is reflect the love that the Lord has for us not just in actions, but in words. No one knows or ever will know God’s thought process, so Robertson has no right to pretend that he does.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
2:36 pm

And Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakahn, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton are FINE examples! WAIT! They’re BLACK! They can say and do ANYTHING! What was I saying???? Cynthia, the “Race Baiting/Race Pimp/ Race Warlord”.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
2:44 pm

@Randall
couldn’t have said it better myself…wait, maybe I can:
al sharptongue and jessejames jackson (save foracon for later) set up that 14 year old in Augusta on a fake rape call – remember?
Well, that says it all – they must be true christians following their Lord and savior obozo – who, i surmise, is cythia’s dreamboy.
(I would have said someting about color but save that for the white demoNcrats!

Anita Mao Dunn

January 14th, 2010
2:46 pm

Cynthia Tucker harms image of Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright harms image of Black Churches.

Rev. Al Sharpton harms image of Rev. Al Sharpton.

Louis Farrakhan harms image of crazy people.

President Obama harms image of presidency.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
2:55 pm

@Anita
I agree with you on all those points, however, The AJC has had a bad image since they employed C Tucker and Mike Luckovich. I wonder why they can’t sell papers. Gee, what could it be???

Randall

January 14th, 2010
2:57 pm

@ Jimbo
I Cynthia Tucker’s world, only Republicans and White Southerners are capable of being racist bigots. Right Cynthia?

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
3:01 pm

Randall, I recall seeing a study that looked at trends for daily newspapers across the country sometime last summer. It showed that the AJC, contrary to your opinion, has fared no better and no worse than other daily newspapers around the country.

Newspapers are dropping like flies because people are starting to get their news online and from the 24 hour news channels. Seattle lost one of its two daily papers last year due to a lack of readership.

So while it may be your opinion that the AJC has suffered because of Tucker and Luckovich, I suggest you provide facts rather than your opinion. Or at least say this is your opinion.

If their readership has fallen since these two joined the AJC staff then provide evidence not only that the fall has occured since they joined or at a more rapid pace since they joined but also empirical facts that the loss is due to them being on staff.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 14th, 2010
3:02 pm

An amusing side note: the great evil of Rev. Robertson’s statement is that he relies on the flawed leftist theory of group guilt for the sins of ancestors, suggesting that the devastation is God-exacted reparation for the sins of generations long passed. Had he argued that God was aiming at particular individuals within the culture, and that innocents suffered collateral damage, he would have a better-reasoned conservative position. (Please note I did not suggest same was a “reasonable conservative position.”)

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
3:04 pm

Randall

January 14th, 2010
3:06 pm

Ok, Swede, so your “facts” are based on you saying, quote “I recall seeing a study…sometime last summer”. Ha! Nice facts.

Janell

January 14th, 2010
3:10 pm

Although there isn’t proof it doesn’t change the attitude and the oppression that Haitians felt due to the the “myth.” If you ask many Haitians today, they believe that the island nation was under the control of the Devil and that now children born after the reign are the children of promise. Its terrible was has occurred but for whatever reason, i hope that nations united and aiding in the effort will be a testament in showing that this country has been forgotten and now it is receiving the attention it needed all along.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
3:10 pm

Randall @ 3:06

The study I saw is not needed to comment on your post.

You said readership had started dropping since these two were added to the staff but provided no facts. I am simply asking you to provide facts to back that up.

My comment was just a general observation that it doesn’t appear AJC readership is dropping more quickly than others. You allege that readership drop is directly related to these two.

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
3:12 pm

@ swede
here’s evidence: I dropped my subscription based on those idiots being associated. Not an opinion, just the facts maam.

Big Wally Bicks

January 14th, 2010
3:13 pm

@Gerald:
“Robertson exaggerates a common error in reading the Bible: confusing the Israelite religion of the Old Testament with the Christian religion of the New Testament. The Israelite religion is open only to people born to an Israelite mother.”

Most EXCELLENT point!! The OT and the NT are two different creatures. Most so-called Christians don’t have a clue. The OT God and the NT God are obviously two different entities. The great divide that developed between Jews and Jesus late in Jesus’ ministry, the utter rejection of Jesus as Savior by the Jews is plenty proof of it.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
3:21 pm

Swede
You submit that The AJC has lost subscribers, yet, you seem to have “proof” that Tucker and Luckovich had nothing to do with it. Yet, you admit their loss of subscibers. I suppose the subscibers they lost had nothing to do with these two? Aboslutely none.

Randall

January 14th, 2010
3:24 pm

@Swede
Jimbo, you and I, and 3 of my neighbors did the same thing. Okay, there’s 5, that is a fact.

Swede Atlanta

January 14th, 2010
3:38 pm

Randall

I never said I had proof that the loss was due to them. You are the one that said they did.

Just because you have 5 people who say they stopped taking the paper doesn’t make the overall loss a result of them. I have no facts to establish this but it is also possible that there were new subscribers that took the paper because it offered opinion they liked.

So there could have just as easily been 5 people that subscribed for the exact opposite reason.

I for one don’t take a newspaper or stop taking it because I don’t like individual contributors. I stopped taking the AJC because I simply didn’t have time to read it.

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
3:38 pm

i think pat robertson IS the devil! hesure talks to him a lot

Byron Mathison Kerr

January 14th, 2010
3:40 pm

With the deaths of Jerry Falwell in 2007 and Oral Roberts in 2009, that automatically taps Pat Robertson as “Grand Wackadoodle” of the Christian evangelical fundamentalist media giants.

At the end of Robertson’s reign, I suppose next in line will be Rick Warren, who was invited under controversy to be part of President Obama’s inauguration ceremonies. This is the same Rick Warren who is now desperately trying to distance himself from unintentionally influencing officials in Urganda to codify human rights violations — and even crimes against humanity!! — targeted at the gay citizens and their family, friends, and aquaintances of that country: Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill.

I miss Billy Graham, now 91. At least he focused mostly on the loving and compassionate teachings of Christ as the mainstay of his Christian message. But, alas, he was from a more civilized time than the current divide, conquer, and destroy mission era of contemporary Bible thumpers.

j allen

January 14th, 2010
3:44 pm

Pat Robertson often puts his foot in his mouth and did not fully expand on this. There are certainly conquences for bad behaviour both as individuals and nations. Sometimes it is easy to see the cause and the consequences of such actions. Other times it is not so easy to understand. It is obvious that Hatti is not a righteous nation but what is the cause of this? Well, that is difficult. Leave it to God and move on with his His work. However, I do observe this. Why can our government move so fast to help a nation that has nothing to offer our nation and yet when our people were dying and suffering in New Orleans the government was so slow to act. When the military was just a few hours a way and the President watches it on the news? While Obama is using the National Credit Card to help Hatti, who is going to pay for all this? Does anyone care? The day of the free ride and easy credit will soon come to an end and then who in the world will be there for America? Hatti needs help. IT has always needed help and will always need help. There is not enough money in the world to fix Hatti. They will need permanent welfare from the U.S. That is probably what they will get. Most of the money will go into a sink hole and be lost forever for nothing just like most goes for nothing in most situations like this. Sad, so sad. Where is accountability?

Jimbo

January 14th, 2010
3:44 pm

@ janet
I didn’t know Pat was talking to obama!? The REAL DEVIL

Williebkind

January 14th, 2010
3:53 pm

Are we helping CT prolong her career?

“The Truth is my shepard and I will not be in need. I walk thru the valley in the shadow of socialism. I fear no liberal for my absolute Truth is with me. My Truth and constitution comfort me. I lay down with no liberal for fear of abortion. The Truth prepares a table before me in the presence of progressive liberals and atheists. My head is annoited with altruism and my life is filled with Truth. Surely goodness and love will follow conservatives and they will dwell in the House of Truth forever.” Just thinking!

MORON

January 14th, 2010
3:54 pm

PAT ROBERTSONS IS A FREAKING MORON…….WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP HE IS….

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
3:56 pm

yeah, well if he’s so christian why does he talk like that?

Drifter

January 14th, 2010
4:02 pm

There a lots of Christians doing lots of good for the people of Haiti and in the midst of it all, we focus on what Pat Robertson thinks? There’s something wrong with the media.

Pat is a no different from any other media ***** (prostitute). With him and his kind, there’s no such thing as bad publicity.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 14th, 2010
4:02 pm

CYNTHIA….I am sure you are very concerned about the CHRISTIAN image-???

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
4:06 pm

let’s all get off this pat robertson idiot and jump on the wagon to help haiti, we’re all humans aren’t we?

Dr. Alan Phillips

January 14th, 2010
4:08 pm

Cynthia you are right on target, this man is unreal!

As a retired pastor and educational administrator I take strong exception to the comments of Pat Robertson. Men, women, boys, girls, babies, Americans, Christians, care givers, Christian agency personnel who have traveled for years to Haiti to help were also killed.

I must ask him, Mr. Robertson, whom do your represent? A loving caring God who gives life or yourself as an ego centric exhibitionist who needs strong Biblical and ethical correction? You are wrong in making that type of a statement just to attract attention to self. When you make outlandish statements that alienate people from the church and Christ’s words you to do a great disservice to the cause you falsely claim to advocate. Why not sell all you have and give it to the poor? That’s not my admonition those are Christ’s words.

You would be well served to apologize to those thousands trying to help Haiti, for you unbelievable words! My hope is that the elders of the true church would give you the strictest sanction of discipline possible. They probably won’t but I am personally disappointed in your pathetic history lesson for the suffering people of Haiti. They are not cursed by God for some supposed action they had no part in. I agree completely with Cynthia Tucker, retire now!

Dr. Alan Phillips, Sr.
Bloomington, IL

janet Pederson

January 14th, 2010
4:14 pm

DR.Alan Phillips, you said it all. very good

Brenda

January 14th, 2010
4:20 pm

What kind of nonsense is this man sputtering? Does he have a copy of this ‘devil pact’? How does he know this? Pat Robertson is a moron and is poisoning the minds of the public who look to him as a religious leader. Hopefully, none are simpleminded enough to listen to, let alone believe this hubris.

Tom Middleton

January 14th, 2010
4:24 pm

Coupled with the Golden Rule, “not judging others” implies action – not meting out the punishment. We’re supposed to be able to tell right from wrong, good from evil, but it’s how we respond (through action) that makes us clean or unclean in the eyes of God.

And if people winning their independence (freedom) is “making a pact with the devil,” as Pat says, then we’re all in trouble. I think we now can see what kind of president Pat would have been!

Ed

January 14th, 2010
4:26 pm

If Pat knows god in person he should spend his time front lining our troops – maybe he could use his powers to bring the war to an end. Come on Mr. Robinson, lets see what your made of. We couldl send Rush to keep you company.

Kenya West

January 14th, 2010
4:30 pm

“Barrack Obama hates white people.”

Pulitzer Prize Winning Bloggist

January 14th, 2010
4:37 pm

Arguing with idiots in this blog is like going deer hunting with an accordion.

The Dems are in a complete meltdown.

The American people are furious and heads are going to roll in November.

Make I please get the check for my award now?

Joseph

January 14th, 2010
4:44 pm

“Judge not lest ye be judged” Why can’t these Ego-maniacs just follow the words in RED and shut the HELL UP
GEE PAT I hate to see whats in store for you. MAN OF GOD….. LOL

kovypleasestay

January 14th, 2010
4:48 pm

Dear Pat:

It was Napoleon I, not Napoleon III.

Sincerely,
Sanity

Alex

January 14th, 2010
4:49 pm

Escaped African slaves in Haiti fought a guerrilla war against the French for generations before achieving independence. If the Devil had anything to do with it, he sure took his sweet time. If you want a more rational explanation for the Haiti/Dominican Republic disparity than God’s wrath, I suggest reading Jared Diamond’s “Collapse.”

Salt & Light

January 14th, 2010
5:23 pm

Swede Atlanta:

I hear you sir and of course you are free to believe whatever you want. However, in my opinion that’s just what he (Satan) wants you to believe …………. that he doesn’t exist.

Now, I obviously believe in God and in particular I am a Christian. I believe that by faith. That said, I would argue that since there is a God that He would have the power to leave us a book about what He desires that is at least accurate enough for us to understand and live by.

Father Michael Gandy

January 14th, 2010
5:26 pm

Pat Robertson is a stupid old man that says stupid things. Everyone knows that the 700 club only wants your money. Do not feed the fat pig. They are so fake. We all see that.

Pete

January 14th, 2010
5:28 pm

I actually listened to Pat Robertson’s statements on the Haitian earthquake on Good Morning America and I have to say that while some of the wording he used might have been more tactfully delivered the context in which he meant it was hardly condemning or “racist” of the Haitian people, Dr. Robertson’s statements were made in the light of attempting to show how a righteous God judges sin, not only an individual’s sins, but also a nation’s sins (Exodus 7; Judges 6:1; Daniel 5).

God also offers repentance for sin for a nation (2 Chronicles 7), so before anyone attempts to condemn an ill-spoken but well intentioned commentary on the Haiti Crisis, let he (Robertson’s Leftwing anti-Christian critics) who without sin cast the first stone!

Lee

January 14th, 2010
5:29 pm

Muslim fundamentalists are often violent and irrational, and many Christian fundamentalists are equally extreme and unprincipled. Sincere Christians must speak out against using the name of God to engage in such destructive behavior.

lovelyliz

January 14th, 2010
5:34 pm

Pat Robertson has just proven himself to be another false prophet. He’ll condemn others while using Christ for his own financial gain. That’s what happens when you go into business with an African strongman who was killing his own people and funding violence in another country all so your investment in illegal gold mining in Liberia continue to pay out.

Praising Charles Taylor as a fine Baptist is a slap in the face of truly good Baptists and other Christians. It also shows just what type of Christian Pat Robertson is.

Father Michael Gandy

January 14th, 2010
5:36 pm

Pat Robertson is a joke. He always says stupid things. Everyone knows that the 700 Club just wants your money to spend on themselves. Do not feed the fat pig. Pat Robertson and the 700 club is a big joke for stupid people.

ck hall

January 14th, 2010
5:41 pm

We need you to do a story on the SCLC thefts..