Harry Reid: racism or stupidity? It’s stupidity

Having grown up in Alabama under Jim Crow, I’ve got some experience distinguishing among genuine racism, racial insensitivity and comments/behavior that are merely stupid. There’s not always a fine line separating the categories, but my ability to navigate my world has long depended on distinguishing a malevolent racist from an insensitive boob.

I’ve never believed that a white person’s use of the “n” word is de facto proof of his racism. (It is, rather, de facto proof of boorishness.) And I’ve met my share of white good ‘ol boys who drove pickup trucks with rebel flag decals but who were, nevertheless, unfailingly polite and helpful to me. They are not racists. I’ve also met well-educated Northern whites who were quite polite to me but whose behavior betrayed their belief that blacks were somewhat inferior. They are racists.

Harry Reid, with his truly stupid comments about the president, falls into the insensitive boob category. Trent Lott may as well. But the remarks that Lott made were much more damaging — as anyone willing to be sincere about race relations would admit.

(Blogs, admittedly, are not the best format for discussing race relations. The ability of commenters to post anonymously tends to bring out the most sophomoric and moronic behavior. Nevertheless, I sally forth, hoping that a few of my readers, white, black and brown, want to think about race deeply.)

Reid, as you no doubt know, said Obama would probably be elected because he’s “light-skinned” and has no “Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” Reid’s first observation is one that he shouldn’t have uttered out loud but is nonetheless inarguable. But his second about the “Negro dialect” is infuriating. What the heck is that? Was Obama the first black person Reid has ever been around who is middle-class, well-educated and speaks standard English well?

Needless to say, Reid has apologized profusely, as he should have.

Reid has moved quickly to show contrition after a new book, “Game Change” by journalists John Heilemann and Mark Halperin revealed that he made comments in 2008 suggesting that Barack Obama could be elected president because he is “light skinned” and lacks “Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

Embarrassed by the remarks and already facing a tough climb to reelection in the fall, Reid has reached out to the African American community, apologizing for his comments and highlighting his legislative record of backing civil rights issues important to the black community. He immediately won a showing of support from prominent Democratic black leaders, including the president, who accepted his apology and said he’s seen the “passionate leadership he’s shown on issues of social justice and I know what’s in his heart. As far as I’m concerned, the book is closed.”

Republicans, however, don’t want the book closed. Looking for any opportunity to damage Democrats, they are comparing Reid’s remarks to those Lott made several years ago which led to his resignation as Senate Majority Leader. (Really, the GOP shouldn’t get into this. They are in no position to suggest any other person or group is guilty of racial insensitivity.)

At a public celebration of Strom Thurmond’s birthday, Lott said:

“When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over the years, either.”

That sent a shiver down my spine. Thurmond ran for president in 1948 as a Dixiecrat determined that black people would never enjoy full citizenship in these United States. He was a full-throated segregationist who wanted black people denied the right to vote, to be educated in good schools, to eat at decent restaurants or to stay in the Holiday Inn. He wanted to preserve a system were black people didn’t serve on juries and were lynched over trumped-up charges. He wanted to preserve a system where men like him could take advantage of a teen-aged black maid and impregnate her — as Thurmond did. He wanted to keep a system wherein black teachers were paid less than their white counterparts.

Anybody who bothers to think can see the difference between the remarks made by Lott and those made by Reid.

One more thing: Lott apologized almost immediately, and had I been serving in the Senate with him, I probably would have accepted his apology. I would have considered him a creature of his time and place — a privileged white guy with little understanding of what it meant to be black in the Deep South during Thurmond’s heyday.

But Lott was run off by Republicans, who pressured him to resign. Enough with the hypocrisy, already.

313 comments Add your comment

Peadawg

January 11th, 2010
7:59 am

“’ve never believed that a white person’s use of the “n” word is de facto proof of his racism. (It is, rather, de facto proof of boorishness.)”

Yet, it’s ok for blacks to call each other n’s. Hypocrite.

Jimmy62

January 11th, 2010
8:11 am

Lott complimented a Senator, and any racism was certainly not explicit, seeing as he didn’t even mention race- You merely assumed, because there was an R by his name, that it was racist. But it was no more racist than Democrats reelecting a former KKK member like Byrd over and over again.

Reid made a comment that explicitly referred to a specific race, and in a derogatory manner. You are a supremem hypocrite, Cynthia, willing to let racists lead you, as long as they have a D by their name. You should be ashamed of yourself. And your Democratic leadership. And black leaders who will let Reid get away with this.

I am right wing, and I am not racist, nor have I ever disparaged anyone because of their race. But I see white Democrats do it and get away with it all the time. Sickening, yet the racists will keep getting black votes because influential folks like Cynthia are too partisan to do the right thing.

Aliquando

January 11th, 2010
8:15 am

Apparently, Republicans are de facto racists according to Ms Tucker.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
8:18 am

Jimmy62 – no, it had nothing to do with Lott having an R and she said she throught he probably wasn’t racist so much as racially insensitive. I mean to suggest the world wouldhave been better off had Strom Thurmond been elected? That’s racially insensitive. Likely Lott was thinking family values, etc, and had forgotton who Strom was when he ran for president and perhaps not who he was at the time of Lott’s speech. Insensitive.

Jimmy62

January 11th, 2010
8:23 am

Jen- Reid made an explicitly racist comment, and if you somehow think what Lott said was worse, then there’s nothing more to talk about, because you are blinded by your partisanship.

MEINPVB

January 11th, 2010
8:27 am

One also forgets that Trent Lott made the comments during Strom’s 100th birthday. Were they stupid remarks? Of course! But congratulating someone on their birthday and saying a little something is totally different from refering to Obama as having no “negro dialect”! Personally I think the comments should first have been credited to John McCain and after the drive by media and the Democrats had jumped up and down screaming racism should it have come out that it was one of their own. Not that watching the democrats try to explain the difference between the two comments is sooo different isn’t fun but my way could have truly shown the voters how hypocrital the democrat party truly is. And by the way I wrote a similiar note to the editoral page signed with my name and guess what? It wasn’t printed!

jt

January 11th, 2010
8:29 am

Divide and conquer is what our federal government does best. The MSM is their best tool.

Jimmy62

January 11th, 2010
8:29 am

MEINPVB- You’re right, would have been funny to see them condemn McCain, but then excuse it when it was revealed it was really Reid who made the comment.

If Lott’s comment was racially insensitive, then reelecting Byrd and giving him an honored place on the party was explicitly racist. Democrats are hypocrites when it comes to race, just look at how many black people Clinton and Obama have in their inner circle and at the top of their staff!

Jen

January 11th, 2010
8:29 am

cynthia is saying they’re both racially insensitive – Reid and Lott. And she also said that being racially insensitive doesn’t equate to racist, ie, Rebel Flag.

Eric

January 11th, 2010
8:31 am

Reid’s comments may have been politically incorrect, but think about it. What he said was true. If President Obama wore his pants half way down his bottom and spoke like a rapper, he would never have been elected. That, my friends is a fact. This is a non-story.

J.C.

January 11th, 2010
8:32 am

This is the first time I read an article or blog by you. I don’t think you are a hypocrite. I have felt that way as well about white people. Sometimes they don’t know and sometimes they are just stupid.

I do remember when Trent Lott said what he said as well as his avid apologies. I also think a lot of people are upset about Mr. Reid’s words because there is small grain of truth. Ugly truth but truth all the same. Which is that United States wants to say we are free of our prejudice past but we are not. Republicans will scream fowl because that is what republicans and their talking heads do. It really didn’t matter what Mr. Reid said or if the President was Black or Not. He is not their candidate. They will find fault with every action he does or doesn’t due for the next three years.

In the past it was a statistical fact that an African-American with a lighter complexion achieved more, was financially stable and over all had more success. That is an ugly truth Black Americans need to deal with. There is a whole lot of bias within our community. Regardless there have been exceptions to that rule. We all know this as well.

Peadawg

January 11th, 2010
8:34 am

“racially insensitive doesn’t equate to racist, ie, Rebel Flag.”

So the Rebel Flag is recially insensitive? LOL!!!!!!!!!! That’s a good one.

mc

January 11th, 2010
8:34 am

Of course you’d say it’s stupid, not racist…he’s a democrat but Lott is oh soo dangerous. Can you even pretend to be objective? If not, quit writing.

Hairy Banana Reid

January 11th, 2010
8:42 am

“The ability of commenters to post anonymously tends to bring out the most sophomoric and moronic behavior”

Your sophomoric and moronic blogs only warrant sophomoric and moronic responses.

Stupid is, as Stupid does.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
8:43 am

Of course the Rebel Flag is racially insensitive. As a southerner I find it extraordinary if you claim otherwise. The Rebel Flag was not the official flag of the Confederacy. It was the battle flag. It was carried into battle during the Civil War. How is that not racially charged?

Scott

January 11th, 2010
8:43 am

Lott never included color or anything racially motivated in his words. He was giving a farewell speech for a fellow Senator. Yes, his comments were regrettable and more scrutiny during the speechwriting could have been applied. Yes, the Republicans weeded him out. However, it is ludicrous for you to say that “the GOP shouldn’t get into this. They are in no position to suggest any other person or group is guilty of racial insensitivity.” If this was a Republican that made these words, what would you say right now? What would the Dem party say right now? They would have rolled out Jackson and Sharpton in a heartbeat. (BTW, Still waiting for Sharpton and the media to apologize to the Duke lacrosse team for their role in tearing apart those young kids’ lives.) Look what happened when Joe Wilson yelled out “You Lie,” during a Presidential Address in Congress. Yes, it was not an appropriate venue to yell that out(and neither is talking on the Senate floor drunk as a skunk), but the Dem party and the liberal media wasn’t just going after him for the lack of decorum, but they were also tearing apart using racism as a basis. If this had been Rush Limbaugh, what would the Dems in Congress have been saying? And he isn’t even a politician!!!

Why the hypocrisy? Where is the outrage? Reid SHOULD be removed from his position and it sad that the only reason he isn’t is because the Dem party perceives him as the only person who can cram this stupid healthcare bill through. The same bill that Wilson was correct in his assessment.

Barry

January 11th, 2010
8:44 am

Hang on a minute: Cynthia writes, “Lott was run off by Republicans, who pressured him to resign. Enough with the hypocrisy, already.” Lott’s resignation was demanded from both Republicans and Democrats; this time when someone in the Senate has made a racist comment, the Republicans are again calling for his resignation – but the Democrats are defending Reid because he’s one of their own. Yet Cynthia accuses the Republicans of hypocrisy? I think my irony meter just broke. Of course, we should remember the previous Democratic senator who called Obama “clean” and “articulate,” and not only avoided being asked to resign but was made vice president. The hypocrisy here is that liberals are willing to allow their fellow travelers to be just as insensitive or racist as they want to be, just so long as they agree with them the rest of the time politically.

On second thought, maybe this isn’t racism. Maybe it’s just a political case of battered-spouse syndrome.

Call it like it is.

January 11th, 2010
8:44 am

“Obama would probably be elected because he’s “light-skinned” and has no “Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

Ugg, so what. The above statement is true and I don’t see anything wrong with it. Cindy sometimes the truth is just that the truth. Just because you get insulted every night and day over every little thing whites might say, doesnt make him or her a racist.

Look at Oprah, very well spoken, successful, but time after time when she gets in a casual setting, her dialect starts to revert more back to a country “negro” dialect. Do I think any different of her? No. It is what it is. I would dare say that when you go back to Alabama for any length of time, you more then likely revert back to their dialect or Alabama twang.

Is Obama light skinned? Yes. Can he change his dialect depending on the occasion? Yes. Does any of the above matter? No.

You know it just doesnt matter any more, no matter how much time passes, how many laws change, nothing changes with the Black community.

If you don’t agree with it, that mean its racisms. If you dont get a job, it because your black, if that person didnt get elected, its because their black and on and on and on. Heck even Avatar is now consider racist by you and your kind, because a white man help to save the aliens.

It will never end, because it just to easy for you to blame an entire race for any failings you might have.

Hairy Banana Reid

January 11th, 2010
8:45 am

You need some lessons in history Jen.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
8:45 am

“Your sophomoric and moronic blogs only warrant sophomoric and moronic responses.”

Seriously? Classic case of “I know you are but what am I?”

It shouldn’t matter if you think her blog is moronic. You should still respond with intelligence and dignity. Otherwise you’re avoiding a real discussion. If you don’t want to have a real discussion…you can always not say anything.

So, what’s your real motivation?

Jimmy62

January 11th, 2010
8:46 am

Notice hoe we evil Republicans are not commenting on Bill Clinton’s remark about Obama would have been getting them coffee a few years previous? That’s because that wasn’t a racist comment, rather an interesting observation on the change in race relations in the U.S. Reid’s comment, however, was simply disparaging and explicitly racist. But since I see the Democrats on here are willing to overlook anything if the perpatrator is a Democrat, there’s not much reason for me to comment anymore.

Where are Sharpton and Jackson? Counting the money they get from Democrats and uninterested in making a deal out of this. Not as lucrative as when they can get on a Republican. Still, it’s interesting how Lott didn’t even mention race, and even Republicans got on his case. Why? Because believe it or not, most Republicans are not actually racist, and unlike Democrats, they will go after their own if a Republican makes a racist comment. Republicans don’t look at the color of your skin, they look at the content of your character. Democrats just look at your skin and your income level and figure out how they can use you to get reelected.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
8:48 am

HBR – why don’t you tell me what you think you know if you think I am wrong. The Rebel Flag was a Civil War Battle Flag, championed by General P.G.T. Beauregard.

Unless you’re claiming the Civil War WASN’T about slavery but rather it was about states rights. Yeah, states rights to own people.

david wayne osedach

January 11th, 2010
8:48 am

Well written. Even President Obama has gotten over it. Forget what Reid said and move on.

Hairy Banana Reid

January 11th, 2010
8:51 am

Jen, imagine me saying this in a most southern inbred voice – “Get you some book learnin, honey”.

Jimmy62

January 11th, 2010
8:53 am

Yeah, it was about slavery, but it was about other things, too. And it shows a vast ignorance of history to deny that.

Rev Al Sharptongue

January 11th, 2010
8:54 am

If you don’t agree with it, that mean its racisms. If you dont get a job, it because your black, if that person didnt get elected, its because their black and on and on and on. Heck even Avatar is now consider racist by you and your kind, because a white man help to save the aliens.

Buddy no need for the low self esteem rant you have. Just be honest and look at history, when people have been discriminated against it has lingering effects.

It seems to me that when a white guy blames his failures on liberals,immigrants,affirmative action, andthings beneficial to women he is whining and playing the victim card.
“Oh pity me I used to discriminate against all the people through legal means and now the playing field is almost level and I cant handle it!!!! Let me shoot my family or a school or a liberal church, or my old place of employment, my current place of employment, fast food restaurants, and family gatherings”

Call it like it is.

January 11th, 2010
9:04 am

“Jen” Wow you know the rebel flag was the battle flag, okay so what? And you know one generals name, wow again we are all impressed. This is an old subject and really not worth getting into with you, because it is obvious that you “don’t” have a clue on the history of that flag, the real reasons behind the War for Southern Independence and what it really was fought for.

The rebel flag became racist because it was just the latest thing for the NAACP to attack to justify their existence. You know its amazing that we had a top show the “Dukes of Hazzard” which was in the top five for like 10 years, with the main star being a car with the rebel flag on the hood and you NEVER heard anything about the flag. It wasn’t an issue, until someone made it one.

Whats next Jen, the American flag? I mean I can’t tell you how many old documentaries I have seen on the history channel or in books that show the KKK marching down the road with the American flag. Why not go after that flag. It was that flag that flew over slave ships, it was that flag that led the way to wipe out Indians. Jen there is a book out there called “The South was Right” pick it up, read it, and open your mind.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
9:05 am

Of course it was also about “other things”. But, slavery was the main one (rather stopping the spread of slavery into new territories and thus limiting the control of power of slave states in government). Everything else was thrown on the horse’s back to even further justify succession.

It’s okay. I’m a southerner. I know. It’s uncomfortable to know your cultural history has such an unsavory and inhumane existence. But, it’s better to just man-up and make progress than to deny it.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
9:09 am

Call it like it is – I know that book. Cloak it all in “economic interests” you want. But when your economic interests are tied up in owning people, well, wah.

Jen

January 11th, 2010
9:12 am

OK – I’m out. Gotta go to work now. It may be wishing too much but please play nice.

Joan

January 11th, 2010
9:20 am

I don’t like Reid, but seems to me there was a lot of truth in what he said. Obama is a light colored black. He can put on the dialect when he wants to. Was there a mis-statement there? Remember truth is only censored and censured when the Republicans tell it.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
9:22 am

Cynthia…..Don’t guess ex-KKK Grand Dragon Robert BYRD is a racist either….BLACKs are saying………Reid is a racist…….but he is out RACIST..

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
9:24 am

REID……..got caught in the politifcal correctness Snare of his own kook party…

zeke

January 11th, 2010
9:25 am

Of course not! He is a democrat! That excuses everything, does it not! You liberals are absolute fools! Double standards are the rule for you nuts!

ADT

January 11th, 2010
9:25 am

MC: Why does Cynthia have to be “objective?” Her whole job is stating her OPINION, which is by its very nature subjective.

Cynthia: I think you’ve got this pretty well figured out. I think more than anything, the Republicans are so desperate now that they jump on everything they see. Aren’t they hypocrites when it comes to affairs, etc.? They tried to run Clinton out of office while now it’s perfectly acceptable to pay off the family of someone you’ve slept with. Interesting how it’s ok for them to call everyone else a hypocrite

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
9:26 am

REID is saying a black who looks like JOHN LEWIS……..& talks like LEWIS (Negro dislect) would never get elected by racist democrats……..

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
9:28 am

THIS IS WHY WE REDNECKS in Georgis don’t take you seriously…….Ms. T.

Kris 10

January 11th, 2010
9:28 am

I just want to know if it’s possible for Ms. Tucker to start a column without “Having grown up in Alabama under Jim Crow…” or something similar.

ADT

January 11th, 2010
9:28 am

No, Reid is saying that an African-American like John Lewis wouldn’t get elected by the independents that voted for Obama.

ADT

January 11th, 2010
9:30 am

David-AJC: And you wonder why no one outside of the South takes Rednecks seriously :)

inou

January 11th, 2010
9:32 am

It’s only racist if it comes out of a non-lib mouth. Besides that, What is the big deal? It’s a fact that whites would probably not have elected a darker skinned person who spoke ghetto. It’s politics. Political correctness has been America’s enemy. Toughen up. Protect Freedom of Speech. Republicans have bigger fish to fry. Corruption is rampant in this administration, and the libs are not about to jeopardize their takeover of our Freedoms and liberties and bodies, and money and. . . etc.

JB

January 11th, 2010
9:34 am

Democrats are the black mans worst enemy, they just don’t know it. Giving a child a cookie to make be quiet doesn’t work. Keeping blacks ( not all, A ton have figured out a education and success ain’t bad) in poor schools and on the dole is what is best for them. It’s all about the vote, not their well being.
I have well educated black friends who have told me this themselves. It’s the biggest con going. Get one to tell you or admit that it was the republicans that voted to pass civil rights. The democrats voted to block it. Al Gore’s daddy lead the way. Wake up folks.

Atlanta_Tiger_Fan

January 11th, 2010
9:36 am

Tucker definitely knows racism when she sees it….she see’s a racist every day when she looks in the mirror! Everything about her and her life is based on skin color. I don’t care what Harry Reid said about obama, it’s true. HOWEVER, had a Republican said the same thing there would be rioting in the streets and Jesse and Al would be picketing and calling for boycotting!

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
9:36 am

The word “racist” is so wrongly used it makes me sick.

Of course Reid is not racist or he would believe members of other races (whatever they are) are genetically inferior to his race. Lincoln was a racist because that’s what he believed as did most white people back then regardless of their view on slavery. Harry Reid is a “knucklehead” but he’s not a racist nor was Trent Lott.

Could we please start using the correct verbage? One can be insensitive, prejudiced and even bigoted (we all are to some extent – including Ms. Tucker with her daily columns) without being a “racist”.

zeke

January 11th, 2010
9:38 am

You fools who think the CIvil War was about slavery need to read and study and learn actual history instead of the crap put out by blacks, democrats and liberals! It was about economic rights and state rights! The South was prohibited from buying the machinery and technology needed to process their own goods! That was done to keep the money in the north and in the hand of the northern industrialists! PERIOD! Lincoln introduced slavery as a cause midway through the war in hopes of a slave revolt to help his northern army that was getting it’s butt handed to it at every turn by an under manned, under equipped Southern force! NOTE HE DID NOT FREE THE SLAVES IN THE NORTH! YES THERE WERE SLAVES IN THE NORTH! You revisionists of true history have tried and tried to rewrite the truth, and, many including blacks and liberals have swallowed it hook line and sinker! THANK GOD THERE ARE SOME WHO ADHERE TO TRUE HISTORY AND NOT THE PC VERSION! I have spoken with many blacks that went north because they were under the impression that things would be better for them there! They returned to the South because, THINGS FOR THEM AND OTHER MINORITIES ARE FAR WORSE IN THE NORTH! GO FIGURE!

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
9:38 am

P.S.

rac⋅ism  

–noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
9:39 am

CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON CYNTHIA TO DEFEND THE RACIST IN THE DEM party….NEED REID’s vote…

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
9:42 am

Zeke:

You are correct of course but that will fall on deaf ears. If you win, you get to write the history.

For example, a greater percentage of Confederate prisoners died at Camp Chase, Ohio than Union prisoners at Andersonville, Georgia. One commander was hung and the other promoted. Get the picture?

Road Scholar

January 11th, 2010
9:42 am

One obvious history lesson not mentioned above is that the rebel battle flag was used by the Klan as their rallying flag. Is that racist enough for you?

As a kid I was once enamored by the Civil War and the romantic stories written about the south. GWTW anyone? But in today’s world, because of the nimnods out there, most people can’t determine or recognize the diffrence in respecting history and practicing racism. Bless their hearts!

ClemsonNeil

January 11th, 2010
9:43 am

This is why I (a black man) am not a democrat.

Old white Democrats have been calling black people “ni&&as” since Civil Rights and everytime they do and “apologize”, black politicans and leadership fall in right line and say “no big deal”.

Notice that Harry Reid knew what black persons to call personally to make his apology to calm the fire. He went down his list of influential “Negroes” and got them ALL to fall in line and shrugged it off. It’s pathetic.

JB

January 11th, 2010
9:44 am

I meant to say ” it’s NOT whats best for them….

thetruth

January 11th, 2010
9:45 am

If Steele and RNC have any sense they will call out everyone of the five faced libs who are now making nice with each other over caustic race comments from Sen. Crupt er…I mean Reid. They will save every scrap of film and print with quotes from GOB senators & Rev. Al and others of his ilk that show them playing down Reid’s comments.

In the future, if a conservative makes any stupid comment about race that is even close to the offensive language Reid used and the libs scream for blood (and being two faced hypocrites, they will) Steele and the RNC should trot out all of their files on this sordid episode to call them out again.

At that point they should point out that libs:

1) Don’t really care about race issues and just use this race card as a political lever when it’s
expedient or…
2) They do believe in racial injustice but are two faced bas terds who apply it only to political
opponents.

Radford Bunker

January 11th, 2010
9:46 am

Perhaps Cynthia, you should check your own writing at the time.LOTT’S REMARKS ARE NO SURPRISE TO THOSE WHO KNOW THE SOUTH Atlanta Constitution December 12, 2002.

William

January 11th, 2010
9:46 am

It has nothing to with racists but simply to demonize another person when they disagree. Remember progressive liberals are liars. It is part of their makeup. They have to lie and deceive because the mainstream will not believe them. Reid is a progressive liberal liar and now he has been recognized doing the evil work progressive liberal liars do. Cynthia is just another pea in the progressive liberal liar pod.

AndyW

January 11th, 2010
9:47 am

Cynthia has clearly lost her grip on reality. First the ‘Obama’s tougher on terrorists than Bush’ column and now this drivel.

I can only imagine her reaction of someone like Johnny Isakson had made a similar comment about Michael Steele.

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January 11th, 2010
9:47 am

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Craig

January 11th, 2010
9:47 am

Democrats own the market on racism. Through their language and bills they push they have found a way to keep blacks in social slavery. They have it set in their minds that they need the white democrate to make it in the world or else they won’t. Only the strong minded see through this crap. Tucker is just another example of keeping her own race owned and not holding the white democrat racist, Reid, to the same standards as a white Republican, Lott. What a joke she and the AJC editorial people are at this point.

JerseyGirl

January 11th, 2010
9:48 am

zeke:

Then what was the Civil War about if not slavery? Why, then, didn’t the southern states cede from the United States than give up their slaves? Most of the Northern states had abolished slavery before the Civil War began.

If anyone needs a history lesson, it is you.

Mark "Crimson Crier" Ingram

January 11th, 2010
9:49 am

It’s like Ann Coulter stated in her book “How to Talk To A Liberal (if you must)”The symbol for the Democratic Party shouldn’t be a donkey, it should be two sets of standards”.

sam

January 11th, 2010
9:49 am

both guys made stupid comments that are excusable. difference between reid staying and lott leaving is that one is being supported by his party and the other was run off by his…lott was on the outs before this happened, it was a convenient excuse to get rid him….

MrDan

January 11th, 2010
9:51 am

African Americans have been a subservient constiuency of the Democratic party since the 1960’s. Harry Reid or anyone else in the Democratic party can say anything they want about blacks, and know all they’ll have to do is apologize. (and keep passing legislation that transfers wealth).

Turd Ferguson

January 11th, 2010
9:55 am

“But his second about the “Negro dialect” is infuriating. What the heck is that?”

Dialect?
Most curious Capt.
Mr Spock scan the planet for more this sillyness.
Scotty!
Aye Captain>
Meet me in the transporter room.
Lt Uhura?
Yes Captain?
Open a hailing frequeny and might I say you look lovely today.
Thank you Captain.

Joey

January 11th, 2010
9:56 am

Cynthia;
If Reid has used “Black dialect” or “inner-city dialect” or even “Getto dialect” we could argue carelessness or stupidity. But using “Negro dialect”, to me that makes it undeniable racism.

I remember when we dropped Negro and Colored from use. We transitioned to Afro-American, then to Black, then to African-American. Now you say Negro is acceptable again. I am not ready to go back to the 60s, thank you.

Aksarben

January 11th, 2010
9:56 am

Oh for God’s sake. If Lott is racist and stupid, so is Harry. And Tucker, you are a shill for the Democratic party, which by the way, has treated blacks poorly throughout the years. Go figure why you keep coming back for more abuse.

Racism still exist

January 11th, 2010
9:57 am

Call it like it is – “consider racist by you and your kind”, if that is not racist, then I don’t know what is. Unless you have walked in our shoes you will never understand.

sam

January 11th, 2010
9:57 am

i think by negro dialect he meant aks vs. ask

Turd Ferguson

January 11th, 2010
9:58 am

“You fools who think the CIvil War was about slavery need to read and study and learn actual history instead of the crap put out by blacks, democrats and liberals! It was about economic rights and state rights!”

Correct!

JerseyGirl it is YOU who needs the lesson.

Pierce Randall

January 11th, 2010
10:00 am

The last two paragraphs make me a little confused about Cynthia Tucker’s point.

It’s not hard to imagine why he made them–this is a man who went to college before the 70s, who lives in a state (no knock on Nevada) where it’s at least possible for an old white man to live far away from black individuals, who works in an institution full of other old white men who may have similar attitudes, and Barack Obama. But just because it’s easy to imagine why Senator Reid would make these comments does not mean these comments are any less ignorant or, likely, offensive.

They also reflect a large disconnect, demographically, between the US Senate and the country at large: while we should all vote for elected officials we think are most qualified, one might imagine, with the sufficient sample size that is the population of the United States, that, barring any structural barriers to election, half of Senators would be women, about 12 to 14 African American, and about the same number Hispanic. There are a lot of reasons this does not happen, but most of us know we cannot talk to or about others the way Michael talks to Stanley in the Office because we have to get up every morning and immerse ourselves in a diverse culture. Harry Reid’s circumstances require him to do this sufficiently.

Is this like Trent Lott’s praise of Strom Thurmond? No, but not necessarily because Lott’s comments were more or less offensive than Reid’s. Lott said, in 2003, of Strom Thurmond’s 1948 run for President on a segregationist platform: “When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over the years, either.” Whatever that says about Trent Lott’s attitudes towards black Americans, it’s an endorsement of policies far away from the mainstream United States, and from the Republicans Party’s platform. Whether or not Reid should resign from Democratic Party leadership for his statements, they were not a question of public policy, and so were not analogous to calls for Trent Lott to resign.

As a side note, Cynthia Tucker says that blogs are not a good place to talk about race relations. I tend to agree, but it’s interesting to note that blogs sustained the Trent Lott scandal on life support after the media dropped it.

Cynthia

January 11th, 2010
10:00 am

How typically double standard the Democratic response is to the entire Reid affair. Had Reid been a Republican, the cries for his resignation would be loud and strong. Deny it all you want, but Trent and Reid did the same thing in the same way. To excuse one because he is helpful to your political agenda is the ultimate in hypocrisy!

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
10:00 am

CYNTHIA……The Democrat Party is full of segregationists……Robert Byrd….for one….

real fan

January 11th, 2010
10:01 am

The reason Lott resigned was he was the Senate Majority Leader . Regardless of what party he is. This position should always be held to a much higher standard . He failed in respecting the position with his insensetive comments as did Reid . How will we ever get past issues of race if we continue to excuse people that should be showing the best qualitys of this great country. We all as citizens should expect nothing less from our Representatives.

Carter is a Fool

January 11th, 2010
10:02 am

Reed has the D card, so it is not objectionable only stupid. If he had the R card, it would be a major hanging offense. Tucker sees racism everywhere, but ignores it when the D is linked with a politician.

Keep writing this crap and you will hasten the demise and bankruptcy of this paper.

Craig

January 11th, 2010
10:02 am

Jersey Girl, the Civil War had to deal with the South breaking off from the north more then slavery rather you like it or not. Lincoln did undertand the slaves had to be free along with keeping the country as one. By the way, a Rebublican freed the slaves. The Republican’s passed the civil rights laws that Gore’s own father voted against. The bad news, the dems have shackled blacks with their policy’s and veberage since the ’70’s. Go research your history and prove me wrong.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
10:04 am

Road Scholar:

Just curious ………. have you ever wondered how Native Americans feel about the American flag (the last thing some of their forefathers saw before a bullet sent them to the happy hunting ground) or black slaves looking at it as they boarded that yankee slave trader on the West Coast of Africa, or Japanese Americans as they saw it flying outside their internment camp in WWII or ………………

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
10:06 am

Bill Clinton said…”Barack Obama could have been serving me coffee & shining my shoes back in Arkansas…………..& saying…..”.Ya Saar..Boss…..& Na Saaa Bossman–”

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:06 am

Reid has not made a racist comment. A racist comment who imply that the person mentioned, Obama in this case, was inferior because of his race. Cynthia correctly writes that Reid’s first observation ” is nonetheless inarguable.” I fail to understand, however, her being infuiated by the comment about the “Negro dialect.” Her question: “Was Obama the first black person Reid has ever been around who is middle-class, well-educated and speaks standard English well?” makes no sense. All that Reid was expressing is the inarguable fact that had Obama spoken non-standard English, he would have had much more difficulty to be elected.

Craig

January 11th, 2010
10:06 am

Ridgerunner, have you ever wondered how the Jews felt before going into the oven or gas chamber? They got over it and have moved on through education and a strong will. they were not brain washed by a politcal party to depend on them to better theirselves.

Carter is a Fool

January 11th, 2010
10:07 am

We have very few African-Americans here in this country, but we have many blacks. An African-American is a first generation immigrant from Africa (regardless of skin color). Hyphens only divide our country not unite it. Just like Kwabanga the made up holiday that the radicals celebrate since they want their own holiday instead of Christmas or Hanakah.

So glad to see no stores put up Kwabanga cards, decorations and the media seemed to ignore it this year. May this made up holiday conceived by a radical Marxist disappear from memory.

john

January 11th, 2010
10:07 am

“I’ve also met well-educated Northern whites who were quite polite to me but whose behavior betrayed their belief that blacks were somewhat inferior. They are racists.”

FYI. I am a northerner and would like you to retract that statement, we are not racist, nor do we time to discuss or care about things like this, we have moved on from black/white talk back 1870 and again in the 1960. FYI, we voted a black man our president, wtf else do you need to show you that we do not care about skin color!!!

If you want the reality of your statement, we view White and Blacks in the south as both inferior on the same level, no because of skin color, but because of the lack of growing up, down here people talk about the civil war as if it were yesterday. I always have some guy who’s great-grandady fought in the war tell me that “i know you guys won” then proceed to show me some war bonds or something from the war.

DHD

January 11th, 2010
10:08 am

Instead of asking Reid to step down, the Dems always go back in history like a child and say…they did it too, they did it too….and what they did was worse…blah, blah. It is obvious that there is a double standard here. Republicans asked Lott to step down. He made a stupid comment trying to make an old man, who was about to die, feel good. Reid had his comments published in a book, then apologized. Bottom line is Cynthia Tucker is blind.

Aye Aye Sir

January 11th, 2010
10:08 am

Democrats are always about “don’t do as I do, do as I say”.

A perfect example? The Obama kids in private school in Washington, D.C.

squirrelly

January 11th, 2010
10:09 am

Maybe Harry Reid isn’t racist, but Cynthia Tucker sure is.

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:09 am

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector: Byrd was a segregationist decades ago. He is not a segregationist now. Vital difference, which you do not seem to be able to understand.

Jess

January 11th, 2010
10:09 am

You are wrong that Lott was run off only by republicans. I just saw a list of 18 democrat house and senate members who called for his resignation. Among the group was Obama and Hillary Clinton. Lott was trying to say something nice about a 100 year old senator who 60 years ago ran for president. For Lott to say he voted for him means he is a racist is absurd. This would assume that Thurmond’s stand on blacks was his only agenda as president.

And come on. Who in 2008 uses the word Negro? Lott never even made a reference to race. Reid not only uses the word negro, but also refers to skin color and dialect.

Sick of the Foolishness

January 11th, 2010
10:09 am

Cynthia Tucker -

I am an African American and you do not represent me or my views. And you will find that the number of people you do represent diminishes every time you write foolishness such as this. You and the liberal democrats have turned this into the most confusing argument ever. Why is what Reid said not racist?

Please stop pretending to know what you are talking about. You don’t and this is the most idiotic thing I have read.

You, Sharpton, Obama and the rest of your ilk should stop even pretending to care about the African American community outside of your own middle-class existence. Obama comes from Chicago and has never done anything about the plight of African Americans there, so I really don’t expect him to do anything more. Wait a minute, maybe we can have a beer summit!!

You all are becoming cartoon characters.

Carter is a Fool

January 11th, 2010
10:10 am

Ridgerunner,
The Native Americans and Japanese Americans got over it just like the Jews. They did not forget it, but it did not define them like some Victims and Race Pimps who are slaves to the past. These folks view the world as trying to keep them down and out instead of seeing the opportunities they have in our country. Shame on these charlatans who preach these lies.

The Dogfighter Returns

January 11th, 2010
10:14 am

Wasted energy on typical american nonsense. :) :)

Move on and deal with the real issues.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
10:14 am

TO THE LIBERALS…any reference by a conservative….to a black person is racism…RUSH LIMBAUGH has been stung ……by the claims of racism……when the LEFT did not agree with him…Only liberals are allowed to classify a RACIST comment….

Boneyard Randy

January 11th, 2010
10:15 am

Insensitive remarks are just that…stop being overly sensitive to them and move on. The more time we spend on analyzing this B.S., the more time we waste on it and the less we spend accomplishing meaningful legislative tasks. Waste of time, waste of money, waste of emotion. Actions speak louder than words…let’s let our legislatures act instead of paying lip service to this B.S. It’s 2010. Let’s start acting like it.

Kevin

January 11th, 2010
10:18 am

Whenever Ms. Tucker reminds us of her “Jim Crow Upbringing”, I see it as code. It’s her way of saying, “I’m the only true authority on the definition of racism.”

And, alas, the code was correct.

Thank you, my dear Cynthia, for defining for the rest of us a racist comment versus a non-racist comment. How dare someone as, well, white as me even attempt to determine a racist comment? Mea culpa.

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:19 am

john:
Cynbthia wrote: “I’ve also met well-educated Northern whites who were quite polite to me but whose behavior betrayed their belief that blacks were somewhat inferior. They are racists.” And you want her to retract that statement? Why? Do you claim that there are no well-educated Northern whites who are racists?

Jess

January 11th, 2010
10:20 am

John,

Perhaps you should have spent some of the time wasted on developing an intolerance for all people southern on learning to spell and complete sentences.

Elephant Whip

January 11th, 2010
10:22 am

If anything, Reid was making an observation about the racism still present in the United States. He was not talking about his own impressions of Obama. He was talking about the likely public perception of Obama and his chance of success at the polls. But the media, and the party lacking power (in this case, Republicans), are always ready to spread the BS.

NRB2

January 11th, 2010
10:22 am

Well of course, Cynthia….when a Republican makes a racial remark, it’s World War 3….when a Democrat makes a racist remark, it’s a pat on the back and the liberal media falls all over itself to defend him.

Typical left wing hypocrisy.

Not only do Democrats hate America…they hate WHITE America even more.

Pierce Randall

January 11th, 2010
10:23 am

A lot of comments here state that the poster knows that Democrats would be more critical of a Republican in this situation, and that this make Democrats hypocrites. First, it’s fantasy thinking that you can peer inside the heads of others–especially a group of others. It’s certainly plausible that political parties of either stripe might hold double standards for themselves and the opposition, but it’s also not hard to imagine that both Republicans and Democrats have internal debates within their voting blocs. It’s certainly a Republican belief–and may well be true–that Democrats value “political correctness,” or (more accurately,) non-offensive statements in reference to diverse groups of people. So it’s also not hard to imagine that Democrats have mixed feelings on this issue, too. It’s also plausible that, since most Democrats and Republicans are white, many probably shrug at both Lott’s and Reid’s remarks.

There may in fact be calls for Reid to resign from Democrats, or (more likely) he may resign on his own, because he faces a tough re-election campaign, and may not be there anyway next year.

Second, if you already believe that both political parties pursue the maxim of political gain for themselves, it shouldn’t surprise you that Democrats or Republicans might take stands that seem hypocritical. If your alleged evidence that Democrats won’t attack Reid, but will attack Lott, is that you somehow know that Democrats only care about politics, you already have your answer before you asked the question. If that’s how you think, Reid didn’t have to say anything–you could just imagine him, or anyone else, talking, and come up with your conclusion. In reality, things are a bit more complicated.

ken

January 11th, 2010
10:23 am

If Cynthia feels that bloggers are sophmoric and not important than I suggest that everyone on this site quit writing. She will lose her job if no one reads her articles.
Reid is a moron as is Pelosi, that being said I can remember several years ago in Detroit that the educators wanted to teach BLACK ENGLISH in the schools.
Cynthis would you please explain to me what is Black English?
After being born & raised in Detroit I know exactly what they were refering to, and was totally against it as it would have made the schools worse in Detroit than they allready are.

I find Cynthias articles one sided at best and I think she also doesn’t want to remember that Obama got more votes from White people than from Blacks, how easiely we forget!

Cynthia if it makes you feel any better I will sign my full name in the future, just ask.

John

January 11th, 2010
10:25 am

So typical of you and the Dems to be hypocrites.

79

January 11th, 2010
10:26 am

Harry and Cynthia are both racist ignoramuses chained to the liberal plantation.

Derwood

January 11th, 2010
10:26 am

THE NEW MEDIA IS A BUNCH OF PRICKS. THEY NEED TO PRINT ALL OF THE NEWS, NOT JUST WHAT THEY AGREE WITH.

john

January 11th, 2010
10:27 am

Mark, I am sure there are a few, but we do not really think about these types of issues nor do we care, we are sick of the race card and we are sick of dumb southerns who think black people should be slaves, hell i am part jewish, you think black people had it bad in the past, they have nothing on the pain and suffering of the jewish people throughout history, spare me of the race card!

Frank

January 11th, 2010
10:28 am

Of course Cynthia doesn’t think it is racist because a Democrat said these words!

Say What??

January 11th, 2010
10:29 am

Is Harry Reid the Senator from Nevada or the Grand Wizard from Nevada?

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:29 am

ken: That many bloggers are sophomoric is well documented by many comments on these pages.

sam

January 11th, 2010
10:30 am

Jess, Obama was a state senator when lott resigned his post…so how would he have been part of the congress that ran him off?

john

January 11th, 2010
10:31 am

JEss, Sorry i am working and do not have time to “proof read” someone has to pay for all the welfare that the southern states force the northern ones to pay for

ben

January 11th, 2010
10:32 am

Cynthia is always one-sided. The whites are racist and everyone else is downtrodden is her view. How can she be Editorial editor and have worked so hard to elect Obama? Impartiality? Not her, never.

JD in Marietta

January 11th, 2010
10:33 am

Harry made his comments nearly 2 years ago and is now only apologizing when he finds out his stupid remarks are being published in a book. Wonder if he’s truly sorry or sorry that he got caught?

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:35 am

What Reid said was not racist, it was a simple, politically incorrect truth. It is interesting how many people who usually cry against PC now now pretend to offended.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 11th, 2010
10:39 am

Sam @ 9:49 is correct. Republicans, unhappy with the comparatively free-spending style of Mr. Lott, were looking for an excuse to dismiss him. Had Mr. Lott enjoyed general republican support, his “happy birthday, Sen. Thurmond” would have survived scrutiny (no rational person reads anything racist in such a comment.) In contrast, Sen Reid is now his own critical 60th vote to remake health care into the world-wide socialist model – the leftists are silenced by fear of replacement.

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:42 am

john: I understand what you are saying, but whether there are few or many racists in the North is eally irrelevant to what Cynthia wrote: She recognized the racism of those she met, and that is all she wrote about. As for Jewish vs. blacks’ suffering, I do not think that should even be a subject for comparison.

Huac

January 11th, 2010
10:43 am

It’s all a diversion, and an effective one at that, in this ‘post-racial’ era we were assured would occur. What we should be paying attention to is Ms. Tucker’s last subject, “Eventually, Obama has to raise taxes, as Reagan did”, since her true function is as a propagandist for the White House.

EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

January 11th, 2010
10:44 am

CYNTHIA SOMETIMES I THINK YOU FORGET WHERE YOU COME FROM ALABAMA AND JIM CROW? YOU FORGET THAT YOU ARE STILL IN THE EVIL SOUTH SURROUNDED BY NEO-NAZIS AND KLAN MEMBERS!

Mark

January 11th, 2010
10:45 am

“..to remake health care into the world-wide socialist model.” That is so laughable, even though it is not funny.

Leroy&Bubba

January 11th, 2010
10:48 am

Whether you like Harry Reid or not, apparently his commens had merit. Obama is a light skinned blck man, that is “artiulate”, and …..he became president. The same can be said of Cynthia, light skinned, articluate, liberal, successful in her profession. It can also be said that they are both well educated, hard working, passionate, motivated, aggressive in the pursuit of their beliefs. Whether you agree with either of them it’s the characteristics of successful people. Should have Trent Lott OR Harry Reid resign for their comments, NO. This country needs to get over this over-sensitivity, it makes us weak. It’s why we refuse to call muslim terrorists, “muslim terrorists”. Grow a backbone, get a thicker skin. Call me a “cracker” if you want, I couldn’t care less.

Davis

January 11th, 2010
10:48 am

SUCH hypocrisy and lies! IT IS Racism, pure, unadulterated, plain and simple and YOU or NO ONE else, without truth on their lips can say otherwise. The difference is, he is of the political stripe and persuasion you endorse and are stained with. I don’t know how some of you idiodic, stupid people, live with yourselves. If one happens to be in your camp, they can say, do or act anyway they wish, and often do, and its alright, you are a GOOD person, its ok honey, just dont do it again. One day we will all have to give an account of the lies and coverups this world is drowing in! Democrats, ie, the ‘old white dudes’ creeping around the halls of congress are MORE racist than those they accuse.

hoodtechie

January 11th, 2010
10:49 am

As a black American male I think this is what disuses me more than anything. People like Cynthia and other black leaders who were offended by the word Negro on the census report, but not at all by the word coming out of someone’s mouth. Only because he is a democrat will he get a pass in the black community, just as Robert Byrd for being an ex-Klansman. It is no wonder anyone takes these so called black leaders seriously especially in the black community. Where is (Al, Jesse, NAACP, SCLC) all keeping quiet because they were told to. This is very dark day in our community when someone of this stature can stand up and say this and none of our so called leaders will condemn his remarks and apply pressure to have him removed. I agree with the white community 100%, had this been a republican all hell would have broke out.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 11th, 2010
10:50 am

Gee Mark, I thought the funny line was my tag – ” the leftists are silenced by fear of replacement.”

JD in Marietta

January 11th, 2010
10:50 am

Examples of hypocrisy:
Democratic comments that are given a pass:
-Jesse Jackson referring to a Jewish section of New York as “Hymie Town” -No outrage from the Left;he misspoke.
-Al Sharpton referring to white business owners in Harlem as “White Interlopers”-No outrage from the left;he misspoke
-Bill Clinton stating that “a few years ago Obama would have been getting them coffee”-No outrage from the left;he misspoke
-Harry Reid-Obama has “no Negro Dialect”-No outrage from the left;he misspoke

Conservative comments that were offensive to the Left:
-Trent Lott-Reference to Strom Thurmond being elected president in 1948-Lott was pressured to resign by both Right and Left. He’s a racist
-Rush Limbaugh-States that the only reason the press isnt being critical of QB Donovan McNabb is because he’s black and they dont want to be labeled racists-This type of bluntness was offensive to the Rev. Jesse and Al. Boycotts ensued.He’s a racist
-Don Imus-Jokingly referred to the Rutgers Ladies basketball teams as “Nappy Headed Ho’s”-Personally run off the air by Rev Al Sharpton despite issuing apologies to Rutgers players and coaches. He’s a racist
The list of hypocrisy from the Left is endless………

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
10:52 am

YES….CYNTHIA……..You liberals….& Socialist…..& Communists STICK TOGETHER…YES…YOU DO.

Robert Henderson

January 11th, 2010
10:54 am

IT is not about race or ideology. Most people forgive people who are not trying to do them in. Lott,Thurmond, and “The Southern Manifesto” speak volumes. Cynthia is right as usual. You people are trying to mix apples and oranges.

OneFreeMan

January 11th, 2010
10:56 am

My bigot is not really a bigot.

Terry

January 11th, 2010
10:56 am

No Cynthia, Reid is a racial divider. He said what he feels and I am sure he meant it. He is just trying to continue to survive and I can bet Nevada wants him out. And please remember that is was the Democrats that did not want the vote or equality to the blacks in the 60’s. It was the Republican party that made sure equality was given.

Ric Spratlin

January 11th, 2010
10:56 am

We are ALL racists to some degree. And no its’ not just a black vs. white thing. Learn to deal with because its’ not going away anytime soon. As an example can anyone explain why 95% of the black population voted for Obama? That’s about as racists as it gets but its’ not a black vs. white thing! LOL :)

Brad

January 11th, 2010
11:00 am

You are so right, Cynthia. These sick conservatives are grasping at anything to take the spotlight off of Sarah Palin, who will be the next canditate for President for the Repubs – guaranteeing a second term for Obama

Chris

January 11th, 2010
11:01 am

Cynthia – thanks for confirming what many of us know. Racist is always the other parties’ problem.

It’s so sad we cannot get past al of this and deal with what matters more – jobs, healthcare, respect for everyone……….

Kris 10

January 11th, 2010
11:04 am

ClemsonNeil and hoodtechie – voices of reason. God love ya.

neo-Carlinist

January 11th, 2010
11:05 am

this is all very amusing, as if there is a difference between “racism” and “stupidity”? Reid is both a racist and stupid, which interestingly enough seems to uniquely qualify him for his job (politician). equally amusing is the indignation and shock conveyed by OTHER politicians (a/k/a “stupid racisits”). Oh, and Turd Ferguson, the Civil War WAS about slavery. You’ve got it back-asswards. The slavery debate became a “states rights” debate. Without slavery there call for Secesssion or embrace of “states rights” on the part of the Confederacy. The Confederacy “declared war” on the Federal government because it believed it that “slavery” was a right. History is the study of facts/actual events; not hypethesis and speculation.

Marie

January 11th, 2010
11:06 am

I’m sorry but as an African-American female I do find Senator Reid’s comments offensive and the man needs to go. First of all African-Americans have not been referred to as Negros for years in this country and to use that term in and of itself gives me the impression that the man was attempting to denigrate and impugn a race of Americans. Secondly, Senator Reid would have never said that a Caucasian would do well because he doesn’t speak with a Southern dialect, or a Bostonian or NY accent, or how about a good ol Texan sounding voice. So to single out “Negros” as having some special dialect is outrageous. And finally when you couple this with his offhanded remarks about Justice Thomas being unable to write well and implying that he was “less intelligent” then the other 9 justices. There can be no doubt that Senator Reid has a strong racial bias which he has been able to suppress, but, which rears its ugly head in these off-colored remarks. And he should not be allowed to continue to get away with this nonesense.

Davis

January 11th, 2010
11:08 am

THANK YOU!, hoodtechie, his comment is eloquent! Again, where ARE all of the BIG MOUTH blabbers who are always waiting in the wings if a Republican or person to the right breathes wrong? It is as plain as the nose on your face and the sad part, they KNOW it, but wont admit it!

RJ (using Caucausian dialect)

January 11th, 2010
11:11 am

Jane, you ignorant slut.

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January 11th, 2010
11:12 am

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Joey

January 11th, 2010
11:14 am

“Sorry I am working and do not have time to “proof read”. Someone has to pay for all the welfare that the southern states force the northern ones to pay for.”

More Americans of African decent live in the Southern States, VA, NC, SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, AR & TN. Was this a racist comment? Is the Northerner who wrote this a racist? Or is he only a Regional Bigot?

Fox sucks

January 11th, 2010
11:15 am

First of all, Negro is a viable word. You are of Negro, Black, Africian American decent yourself. None of those words are negative.
Since a Negro dialect is considered a negative by many white Americans, not having that dialect and being a Harvard grad is a positive for purposes of National electibility.

I am from Atlanta originally. I still have some Southern dialect which on a National basis is a negative. Outside the South, most equate a Southern dialect with Gomer Pyle and toothless racist. That is why I worked to get rid of it.

Oprah Winfrey has no Negro dialect. Andrew Young does not have the Negro dialect that rural Blacks in Georgia do. A Negro dialect and a Southern dialect are kind of looked at as being from the uneducated. A Negro dialect has very similar to a Southern dialet with some additional slang mixed in.

I think what Mr. Reed was saying is that Obama is electible to the mainstream American people and he was right. Not ethnic.. A hispanic would have to be careful to use perfect english to be accepted by middle America.

The Republican party is sick.. Facism runs rampant in the America of today.. When the number one Republican network (Fox) who’s #1 guy can’t own an NFL team because he played “the Magic Negro” on election day and was fired by ESPN for recial remarks and another (Hannity) who was fired from his college radio station for being a racist and has regularly had extreme White Supremicist on his program (Hal Martin), you know you party might have a problem. A little Fox Swastika emblem in the works and Mr. Steele might wear his honorary version as well.

ken

January 11th, 2010
11:17 am

Anybody with a brain knows that there is a double standard. Even Cindy.

Jimbo

January 11th, 2010
11:19 am

reid and tucker – two most racist i know of

sam

January 11th, 2010
11:21 am

didnt CT say that what Lott said was NOT racist? I’m confused

Thogwummpy

January 11th, 2010
11:23 am

Yet another reason to despise Cynthia Tucker’s guts. Lott wasn’t even remotely thinking about racism, and if liberals had any measure of honor, they’d admit that virtually EVERY southern politician (especially Democrats) at the time that Strom ran for President, were segregationists. Cynthia’s ilk danced on the head of a pin to twist and fabricate Lott’s innocent toast into “blatent racism” when clearly it had no racial intent at all. Now when Reid makes a statement that can’t be measured as anything BUT racist…Tucker defends him and marginalizes the statement. I LOATHE liberalism, because of the snotty, snide, self-righteous double standards. Cyntia…YOU are a bigot (based on the rheems of anti-white columns you’ve written); and if I could do so, I’d spit in your face!

nmbrsman

January 11th, 2010
11:24 am

The bottom line is that if a white, Republican had made the same comment as the white, Democrat Harry Reid, Ms.Tucker would be at the forefront demanding his resignation. There is and probably always will be a double standard when it comes to the media and the treatment of white conservatives. It is always a case that you cannot criticize or disagree with a Democrat, especially a black Democrat, without being called a racist.

Marcel Marceau (using mime dialect)

January 11th, 2010
11:25 am

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Jimbo

January 11th, 2010
11:26 am

where is jesse jackson, al sharptongue and the gang? alls quiet on the racist front.

SAD

January 11th, 2010
11:27 am

It saddens me that some stupid remarks can create responses that take us back to an era that few would want to return. What about the real issues of today!

We are being taken to the cleaners every day by a political system that dooms us — Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, and Racists — yes all of us. If all of you are so smart, why do we allow politics as usual in Washington? IF we voted for change, there is none. We cannot even past a Health Care Bill without politicians tagging on their special projects costing billions of dollars. Will the Health Care Bill be effective with all of the special interest projects included? Why don’t we demand more from our elected officials?

Pork Barrel Politics in Washington should be a slap in the face to every voter. Instead of demanding more, we sit at our computers and respond to all of this nonsense that is not going to change one thing. We have got to get smarter than this.

Take some of your valuable time and send an email to your Congressman and say you have had it and things must change. Then vote for someone who you think will help to bring about change. We need new leadership from top to bottom and perhaps Obama would have no excuse to CHANGE
.

sam

January 11th, 2010
11:28 am

so much hate, so little time.

Gary Coleman (using Negro dialect)

January 11th, 2010
11:30 am

What choo talkin bout Cynthia?

RJ

January 11th, 2010
11:36 am

You can be sure that when Obama is ballin’ with his Homies, a little ghetto dialect slips out. Along with the secret Black handshake.

Jess

January 11th, 2010
11:38 am

Cynthia,

The bottom line is that there is not a person here, regardless of what they say, who believes that you would be saying the same thing if Saxby Chambliss had uttered the exact same words.

steve

January 11th, 2010
11:41 am

snoqualmiefalls

January 11th, 2010
11:43 am

I find it amusing reading comments defending the display of the Confederate Flag. Question… why fly the flag of the losing side from a Civil War over a hundred years ago? Are you folks celebrating your loss, celebrating the fact that your ancestors were losers?… rather odd. It is funny we don’t see this practice in China or Russia or Germany or Japan, why the American South??

M Anthony

January 11th, 2010
11:44 am

Interesting how all the white bloggers come out in defense of what is racist and what is not racist. Some many here seem to be the authority on and about black people and the way they talk and what they look like. How about displaying that same vigor when it comes to getting the schools here in Georgia to do better. Or is that anger only limited to blaming black folks for the attitudes of white people.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
11:48 am

Craig:

Your logic escapes me. We’re not talking about flying a flag over the State Capitol in Albany, NY with the Nazi symbol and a likeness of a gas oven on it. Are you saying Jews would not be upset with that?

Mrs. T. R.

January 11th, 2010
11:52 am

No, the comment that Senator Reid made was not racist. It is a FACT. Any Negro, Black, African American will tell you that there is a prejudice that exist if you are a dark skinned as oppose to a light skinned.

If the Republicans spend as much time working with the Democratic Congress to solve the woes of this country as they do in trying to find every little thing to criticize the Democrats and especially the President, the country would be better off.

Mr. Steele, please tell me where in the World can a person have a job and refuse to do that job for 4 to 6 years? The answer, only if he is a Republican member of Congress. When a Republican member of Congress was censured by the South Carolina Republican House Members because he worked with the Democrats on Health Care and the Global Environment, then there is a problem with the system. I feel that if the Republicans in Congress do not work, then they should ALL be fired. We should not pay them if they refuse to work. While they are not working, the people they suppose to represent continues to struggle.

Republicans it is not just Democrats who need better health care, better schools, employment, etc., it is also the people you suppose to represent.

Wake up and stop nit picking and perform the job that you was elected to perform.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
11:56 am

To Carter is a Fool:

There is much wisdom in your 10:10. That’s why it has been so “stupid” to virtually ban the Confederate battle flag. Some emblem offends someone anywhere. Personally, the word “Yankee” offends me !

Isn’t “Negro” used on the new census forms? Oh, the humanity ……………..

By the way, this all evolves over time. “Colored” used to be o.k. but soon “black” will also be politically incorrect. Then “African-American” will be a no no. I don’t know what we will use after that. Anyone have any ideas? Be polite.

Al Dunbar

January 11th, 2010
11:56 am

You “states’ rights” people are funny. What right do you think slaveholding states were talking about? Go to the original sources, i.e., the declarations of secession, and you’ll quickly understand why these states seceded, and, accordingly, what the Civil War was fought over.

Dave

January 11th, 2010
11:56 am

Can someone please explain to me what “black dialect” is?

DT

January 11th, 2010
11:57 am

Zeke and the Civil War rewrite clan…I think you are a few years off in your “slavery wasn’t made the issue until the middle of the war”…why don’t you study some “facts” and back up…Lincoln ran as nominee of a new Party “Republican”, which was an abolitionist party (that’s “abolish” slavery). Southern states, where slavery was still legal, said BEFORE the election, that if the Republican was elected, they would secede from the Union…Lincoln was elected, and all voted to secede as they said they would. Federal troops were then sent to the seceding states and, voila, there was a War Between the States (Civil War, whatever moniker you like). The “slavery” issue that you spoke about did not begin with the Emancipation Proclamation, but with secession by the States, and the firing by one of those States (first seceder South Carolina) on a federal garrison (Fort Sumter)…you can look it up, it’s in all the history books…

George

January 11th, 2010
12:02 pm

The real difference here is that the Republicans court the wealthy white elite vote and own that demographic. The Democrats strive to help the traditionally disenfranchised. That ain’t changin. Reid has a record of serving those he insults.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
12:03 pm

LET’s fact it…………..DEMs love their RACISTs………….just one more VOTE.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
12:03 pm

To Dave:

Trust me ………. you don’t want to go there.

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
12:04 pm

George………WHAT A STUPID STATEMENT……JUST PLAIN stupid..

Rational Human Being

January 11th, 2010
12:04 pm

In all this hoopla, is there a presumption that there is something wrong with speaking “negro dialect?”

There isn’t. We all speak one dialect or another.

BTW, I did my PhD work in language and linguistics.

Jess

January 11th, 2010
12:05 pm

Cynthia,

The term racist has been so devalued by folks like you that I’m sure many would rather be called racist than stupid. And by the way. Are we supposed to feel good about the fact that the Senate majority leader is stupid, but at least he’s not racist.

Dave

January 11th, 2010
12:06 pm

Ridgerunner, No, I am serious. The conversation is centered around Reid’s “Black dialect” comment but I am not sure what that dialect is. Can someone explain it please?

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
12:06 pm

To DT:

It was the war between the “United States of America” (obviously an oxymoron at the time) and the “Confederate States of America”.

And of course you know that Lincoln said many times he would keep slavery if it meant keeping the Union.

Aman

January 11th, 2010
12:06 pm

Tucker failed to mention one obvious racist, herself.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
12:06 pm

Would some “M F” please explain this to Dave?

Person Who's Actually Taken a Civil War Course

January 11th, 2010
12:07 pm

DT
January 11th, 2010
11:57 am

Zeke and the Civil War rewrite clan…I think you are a few years off in your “slavery wasn’t made the issue until the middle of the war”…

———————-

And every state issued a declaration of secession. Most of those declarations go on and on about slavery: slavery is wonderful; slavery was ordained by God; we have to kill the dirty Yankees who want to take away our slaves; we have to have slave so that white boys can have sex without defiling white women …

The Old South was an intensely racist society.

Jon but not Jon Voight

January 11th, 2010
12:13 pm

Why is the Deep South the “Red States”?

Mindless Liberalism

January 11th, 2010
12:13 pm

Who could forget Geraldine Ferraro’s comment about Obama when he was wrestling with Hillary?

“He would not be where he is today if he were white.”

No outrage in the media or from the bed wetting liberals.

Or how about the way so many left wing moonbat liberals who called Condi Rice racial epithets like “Aunt Jemima” just because she was a part of a Republican administration? Again, no outrage in the media or anywhere else in liberal land.

Democrats/liberals are such pathetic hypocrites it’s disgusting.

Carter is a Fool

January 11th, 2010
12:14 pm

Ridgerunner,
I do wonder what will be OK when Black is equal to either of the N words unless you are that skin color. The battle flag offends many and should not be displayed except over the appropriate grave yard where those soldiers are buried or some historical marker.

I found it silly when the debate was on over the state flag when some folks were so offended yet by their logic – the US Flag should be redesigned as it also flew over slavery, and the Jim Crow south not to mention the mass slaughter of the Native Americans.

Hopefully, one day we will be past all of this idiocy and truly be able to see people for their quality of their character and strength of a common culture.

Eddie

January 11th, 2010
12:15 pm

I thought Lott was just trying to make an old man feel good at his birthday party, without really thinking about what he was saying or the import of his remarks. And would have also accepted his apology. All of us have made remarks at one time or another off the top of our head without thinking of the consequences, and regretted it.

I don’t know where Reid made those comments. Were they made in a private conversation with no intent to be made public.I have to agree that speaking correct english is a requirment to being elected. That’s problably what Reid meant. And it is a true statement. But shoud not have to said outloud, but should not be offensive.

When Jimmy Carter was running for President some of us worried about his southern accent. It would have been true to say he couldn’t have been elected president if he spoke southern hillbilly (which I am) accent, and would not have made me angry. I think I probably said that at the time, that it was good for him he did not have a deep southerrn accent or dialect. True statement. Most yankees think southerners that talk slow are dumb. When I doing business with people outside the south, I always spoke quickly and put an edge on my words and ditched my accent as much as possible.

Facts of life. Life goes on.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
12:15 pm

The “War Between the States” was about economics of which slavery was a substantial part (including tariffs, etc.). Don’t forget slavery at the time was Constitutional as was child labor in later years as is our state sponsored welfare system today. Yankee slave runners continued to try to bring new slaves in right up until the end of the war. Great Britain outlawed slavery in it’s colonies only about 40 years before. After the war, freed blacks could not vote in many northern states and couldn’t even travel there without posting a bond (usually $1,000). I could go on and on but ……………………..

If you fail to keep all of this in the context of the time in which it happened you cannot even begin to grasp its historic meaning.

Wading in

January 11th, 2010
12:17 pm

Jen,

While I don’t think anyone on this board is dumb enough to suggest that slavery should have been upheld, the notion that the war between the states wasn’t about state’s rights is inane. The issue of slavery was in the linchpin in the discussion about state’s rights, but don’t be so naive to think that this conflict was only about slavery.

If it was, then how come the emancipation proclamation in 1863 only applied to Confederate States, while northern states continued to employ slavery? It wasn’t until 1865 that slavery was abolished in the U.S. It’s a fact most history books tend to gloss over in their efforts to lionize Lincoln as some hero in this cause. Even Grant kept slaves after the war. And they didn’t move to give freed slaves any kind of rights. That in and of itself ought to signal to any thinking person that there was WAY more to the war between the states that just slavery.

gkmlaw

January 11th, 2010
12:18 pm

I don’t suppose that the distinction has anything to do with Reid being a Dem. Come on Cynthia, show at least an ounce of intellectual integrity. Certainly, this torments even you to have to justify.

C from Marietta

January 11th, 2010
12:19 pm

To SAD,

Finally someone that gets it! They are magicians. Look here while I screw you yet again – That’s Washington. Their strategy is to divide and conquer. Isn’t anyone besides SAD and I that are concerned about the way politics is headed in Washington? OR are humans doomed to “get off” on hating one another. I for one am sick and tried of it!

Alan

January 11th, 2010
12:21 pm

Cynthia, we are all very relieved to finally have a person to turn to when it comes to what is and isn’t racist. You need to read what you write. You have NO business being in the position you are because of your hypocritical ways. Give us a break and resign.

ASM

January 11th, 2010
12:23 pm

Democrats are flushing this country down the sewer.

CB

January 11th, 2010
12:24 pm

Thank you, Ms Tucker for an insightful look into this Reid discussion. I will not disrespect your opinion with racially charged statements INAPPROPRIATE statements like some of our other LESS TACTFUL AJC readers. Whether I agree or disagree that Reid should step down (and I do believe to get this thing over with, he may need to), I appreciate your thoughts. Unfortunately, this Reid-Game Change debate is not going anywhere anytime soon.

Thanks again, Ms. Tucker. Some of your readers DO APPRECIATE YOU!

B

January 11th, 2010
12:25 pm

Lott = Wrong
Reid = Wrong

Pain is not specific to one group of people.

Liberals are this, Conservatives are this… ZZZZZZZZZZ. Boring.

The truth is while people are wasting time with stuff like this, we could spend energy on keeping all of these bums honest.

Albert

January 11th, 2010
12:25 pm

So, was Al Sharpton’s role in the Tawanna Brawley affair racist or just stupidity? Just wondering.

Independent

January 11th, 2010
12:28 pm

Lighten up everyone. Ebonics have morphed from being an urban dialect to Obama administration policies hell bent on destroying our economy.

Williebkind

January 11th, 2010
12:28 pm

Everytime someone makes a racist comment the south comes up! Harry Reid is from Nevada. So all of you and I do not care what color your are can kiss my white southern a$$. Chicago needs you really bad so go there as soon as possible–or Washinton DC. I grew up learning DC ment Dark Continent.

swsjr

January 11th, 2010
12:29 pm

It was honesty. Nothing more, nothing less. EVERYONE knows it to be true

Greg Kaiser

January 11th, 2010
12:29 pm

Yawn.

Reading the responses to these kinds of editorials is often more entertaining and informative than reading the editorials themselves. If you want to know about race relations or the political ideology of the FoxNews and MSNBC fringe wacko’s look no further than the blogs following any AJC article or editorial that mentions the words “racist,” “President Obamam” or “Confederate flag.”

Litmus test: if you rely on Fox News or MSNBC as your primary (not sole… primary) source of news, you are politically and socially unintelligent. You know who you are.

Ricardo Cabeza

January 11th, 2010
12:30 pm

Miz Tuckah sho no how to rile folks up now don’t she! Lawd, she do!

Jimmy62

January 11th, 2010
12:31 pm

So Harry wasn’t being racist, he was just saying that he doesn’t like blacks that act black. Basically he was denigrating black culture in America. Not racist at all, just a reference to a particular group and some stereotypes of that group…

Oh wait, making vast generalizations about people based on their race IS racist. In Cynthia’s rush to excuse anything that a Democrat says, I almost forgot what racist means according to the dictionary, as opposed to Cynthia’s definition: “Anything a Republican says that is true and I don’t like” is racist.

Eddie

January 11th, 2010
12:32 pm

South and North were two different countries and cultures from the beginning, and in many ways still are. Refusal of Lincoln to left new western states decide whether to allow slavery was just the last straw. South Carolina wanted out long before that.

That’s past history. So are Reid’s statements, and Lott’s.

Time to move on. Faulkner was wrong, the past is eventually past, and dead.

Randall

January 11th, 2010
12:32 pm

Cynthia, YOU are the Queen of stupidity! A.K.A. The Village Idiot.

jack

January 11th, 2010
12:33 pm

Ms. Tucker, I doubt you are paid enough to read the moronic ramblings of the bloggers on your column. I’ve read your column all the way back when you started as a 20-something. In those days you were so shrill (the foolishness of the young) that it was difficult to understand why the AJC allowed you to write.

Over the years you have become an honest, thoughtful writer, which, of course infuriates the crazies on both the left and the right; and the black and the white.

Your detractors are so filled with anger and bias, they blog to let some of it out before it kills them.
In this sense, you are offering an outlet for them.

Note to “PeaDawg”. You really have some serious emotional issues. Get help. Really.

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
12:34 pm

To Wading in:

Good try but remember you are dealing with closed minds here.

Have you read “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLornezo? If not …….. it’s a must.

shortywop

January 11th, 2010
12:35 pm

If we put politics aside, the statement is so very true. I am one who has benefitted from talking the proper English.
Instead of concetrating on what others think we should be focusing on the education of our children regardless of skin tone. The conversations should be held in our schools, churches and homes that if you speak like you grew up on the street then people dismiss you. You need to be able to make an impression with a written resume and over the phone before anyone even knows you are black or another race. I have seen the shock on faces of people I have worked with for years via phone and then was able to meet face to face. They had no clue I was black.
I find it funny that it seems to be an anomally that blacks act differently in different situations. Whites and others do this all of the time.
I care less about Lott or Reid. It is time to focus our efforts on the truth and then educate those around us.
Cynthia, I think you could have taken a diffent and more effective tact with the article. Let’s forget about the politics and talk about the real truth that is revealed by this release of info.

Roz

January 11th, 2010
12:37 pm

it’s not what you call me, it’s what I answered to.

Mr. Tuna

January 11th, 2010
12:37 pm

Brad, don’t you think Obama should be reelected because of his successes? Not because a unqualified person is running against him? Typical dem thinking. You just want a leader who is a democrat. However I am proud of you for admitting to vote for the present socialistic leaning president , I have met very few who say they voted for O. Have a normal day!

Betsy

January 11th, 2010
12:39 pm

You say, Republicans look “for any opportunity to damage Democrats.” Well, madam, the Democrats ditto. How that fact continues to escape you is beyond me. In fact, nearly everything, if not everything, you accuse Republicans or conservatives of, the Democrats are equally guilty. Failure to recognize or admit this does not make for good reporting.

Then you close by saying that “Lott was run off by Republicans, who pressured him to resign. Enough with the hypocrisy, already.” If the Republicans now pressure Reid to resign, there is no hypocrisy at all. They “run off” Republicans for alleged racist remarks, they clamor to run Democrats for alleged racist remarks, where’s the gol durn hypocrisy, lady?

Your article, as usual, makes me close my eyes, shake my head, and think “Oh good grief.”

In addition, comments posted on a blog or in response to your articles, anonymous or not, sometimes have insights and observances worth reading. You might try some time.

George

January 11th, 2010
12:41 pm

Most white Americans are the same..left or right..most of them have at least some racist leanings. Learnt the lesson the hard way when I lived in Singapore.

IRollSmoke

January 11th, 2010
12:42 pm

Can’t we all get along. Here have some of this (*. .*)

RJ

January 11th, 2010
12:46 pm

Why don’t you slavery “experts” forget the Civil War, and spend your time on actual slavery? It exists TODAY in Chad, Mali, the Sudan, the Middle East, Asia, Haiti, and others. That does not count sexual slavery of some form in most countries in the world. Would that task take some actual effort on your part beyond sitting at you comp and making snide comments to people that aren’t as enlightened as you?

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
12:47 pm

Cynthia is defending A RACIST Remark made by a leader in the democratic party…..

Ridgerunner

January 11th, 2010
12:50 pm

To RJ:

It exists right here in this country.

By the way, why is Reid such a “wimpy” looking guy ?

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama

January 11th, 2010
12:50 pm

That’s only because Reid’s a dem. If Reid was a republican it would be racist, understand.

Fry this fish….BROKEN campaign promises and bringing change to Washington
• Rarely does a politician get caught in such a blatant break of a campaign promise as President Obama did with his “I’ll put health care negotiations on C-SPAN” pledge. Obama had promised at least eight times during his run for presidency that he would do so

mom3

January 11th, 2010
12:50 pm

“Blogs, admittedly, are not the best format for discussing race relations. ”

Then why, Cynthia, do you infuse racism into every SINGLE thing you write?

Huckleberry

January 11th, 2010
12:51 pm

What I don’t get is that this supposedly was in a private conversation. With who? Why is no one talking about the inherent breaking of trust of a private conversation? Especially with a well-known political leader? That’s how it is with the big boys – there’s on the record, and there’s off the record. So how /why did this private conversation not only come to light, but get published in a major book?

Randall

January 11th, 2010
12:52 pm

It amazes me, how, in your feeble little mind, Cynthia, that you, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Jeremiah Wright, along with any member of the Democratic Party, CANNOT be, or even think racists thoughts. ONLY white Southerners or members of the Republican Party, are capable of being anything racists.
It is YOU, and the other “Race Pimps” like you that thrive on the whole issue of race…..Cynthia, your hypocrisy and stupidity have NOTHING to do with race!! If you were white, you would still be a hypocrite, and stupid.

Sunshine

January 11th, 2010
12:55 pm

Frankly, Reid’s remark was very much so a racist remark. Trent Lott did NOT say anything racist. Why not be fair and quit defending a racist remark by a democrat?

Double Standard

January 11th, 2010
12:55 pm

Tucker would be all over this if the statement was made by a white man, calling for resignations!!! But when stated by a money friendly liberal, it’s OK!!!! The hypocrisy is amazing when it’s one “of your own” making racist statements. Jesse and Al are “on board” with it, so no protests will be forthcoming. Harry can relax and keep giving out the bailout money to his “friends” in the community.

Fox sucks

January 11th, 2010
12:55 pm

You know, I read the comments here about hating dumb liberals, calling Ms. Tucker a Village idiot, racist and hating her guts etc..

I will say this.. You who do this and people like myself have a day of reconciliation coming..

I do believe that we are headed to a bloody political resolution.

I’m loaded for bear and ready to rock and roll, are you?

vracer

January 11th, 2010
12:56 pm

CT is the kind of black that gives other blacks a bad name.

Jess

January 11th, 2010
12:56 pm

Still can’t get over the fact that Cynthia is fine with the fact that the Senate Majority Leader is stupid.

vracer

January 11th, 2010
12:58 pm

And, “Fox sucks” makes humanity look stupid.

Reality

January 11th, 2010
12:59 pm

Fox sucks

Sounds like YOU have some real mental issues.

mom3

January 11th, 2010
1:03 pm

One things for certain – Cynthia would be an expert in both stupidity and racism.

carl s

January 11th, 2010
1:03 pm

Dear Jesus, when oh when will the Left side of the world pay for their hypocrisy? The left side of humanity truly feels and thinks that they are morally superior to everyone else. They don’t see the obvious hypocrisy because then they would have to admit they are not morally superior. Modern liberalism isn’t a poltical philosophy, it’s a religion.

carl s

January 11th, 2010
1:05 pm

Fox sucks – I am absolutley ready for a” physical” confrontation. But just remember – we have all the guns.

Really?

January 11th, 2010
1:08 pm

Always an excuse for the leftie’s racism. The hypocrisy is how we know it’s really you.

Mr. Tuna

January 11th, 2010
1:09 pm

Hey Fox sucks, You should seek help, you are a border line sociopath. Look it up. Your picture is next to the definition.

Matt

January 11th, 2010
1:10 pm

Cynthia, if a Republican had said what Harry Reid said, you would be calling for his/her head in your column…fact.

Obamayourmama

January 11th, 2010
1:14 pm

Fox sucks, it starts in 2010 and ends in 2012 with a Republican victory in both elections. Show us what you got.

Gretchen McDonald

January 11th, 2010
1:15 pm

So, making these remarks warrants Reid to step down when a Republican, we all know who he is, called the President of the U.S. a liar in front of the whole nation. So why was he not forced to step down. The only reason they are jumping on this is because its a Senate Democrat and the Republicans will do anything to take a seat away from the Dems. I am an African American and I feel that if Reid has to step down so should the lying-calling Republican!

Robert

January 11th, 2010
1:16 pm

The Democratic Black population have become so entrenched in there in their need to keep the average black man and women tied to the democratic party that they are willing to over look the fact that Democrats have done Nothing to help them they need they poor and relying on the government to keep the votes. Do not look to the Government to help you look to God and yourself. The Truth that Republicans believe in people not government is the TRUTH they need to Hide and they do that by calling Republicans Racist and force the idea down the media throat.

Ms. Tucker you are Wrong Harry Reid is a a fool and he does not like you anymore than the Sen Byrd did. I was born North of the Mason Dixon Line but have lived south of it most of my life and there is NOTHING stopping Black Americans (And yes I refuse to say African-American, as you are no more African than I am Irish or German you are an American that has dark skin tones and more melanin than I do and have contributed to America as much as those of lighter skin).

Chris Rock said this same thing about Colin Powell that white people were saying he spoke so well and he was right that is racist. PERIOD

JF McNamara

January 11th, 2010
1:16 pm

He needs to go. If not, you blur the line between right and wrong. the next time someone says something like this it’ll just be stupid. Then the next time, it’ll just be stupid. Then, one day, no one cares that you say or believe these things.

Make him step down.

View from a far

January 11th, 2010
1:17 pm

Ms, Tucker, I did not read your editorial, just the title and I could tell where this was going. You are hypocrite.

Allen

January 11th, 2010
1:19 pm

Great, so now we have a “knucklehead” and “insensitive boob”, among many other names seen on here, as our Senate Majority Leader. Wow….and these are coming from the Dem defenders themselves.

Robert

January 11th, 2010
1:20 pm

Ms. Grethcin How is calling a man a Liar(which is a first amendment privilege) the same as being racist oh yes it is when you are a Democrat.

Barack is a public figure and therefore lose all Slander and Libel protections and so Any citizen can call him anything they want. They can do that to any Politican and I will stand up for your rights to do that regardless. Did he deserve a slap on the wrist for being rude? YES he did but not the say say ” he speaks so well not like a Negro” which is what Reid did. That was Racist!

kjdgf

January 11th, 2010
1:21 pm

so is ciny declaring the speaker to be their stupid leader

Harry Reid

January 11th, 2010
1:29 pm

I did not mean to start such a mess. I think the world of the President. He is a good speaker and a credit to his race. Also, the cat can dance! And he got mad skilz on the hardwood. My boy can take it to the hoop. Word!!

stranger in a strange land

January 11th, 2010
1:29 pm

Putting aside the hair splitting, word parsing, linguistic torturing, etc – there is simply no way a rational, logical, thoughtful person can reconcile giving a pass to H Reid and yet excoriate Lott (and others) for their ‘hate’ speech. Can you? Really.

Over the Hill

January 11th, 2010
1:35 pm

Hey Cyn, Let me get this straight you say the movie Avatar is racist but Howdy Doodys remarks aren’t?
And you actually get paid for this??? You are a joke and should just go away!

Joke man

January 11th, 2010
1:35 pm

Want to hear some Harry reid jokes? What is black and tan and looks good on Harry Reid? A doberman!! Man I kill me.

Cutty

January 11th, 2010
1:36 pm

When did those who never experienced a lick of racism become the Deciders on who constitutes a racist act? Reid was attempting to give a compliment to Obama, although it sounded like he was stuck in the 50s. Lott was saying if Thurmond were elected President and segregation would continue to rule the day; implied or not. I don’t have a problem with Reid’s statement, but I do have a problem with Bill Clinton’s. Which was much closer to the statement that Trent Lott made.

Eddie

January 11th, 2010
1:42 pm

Reid made two statements that were both true. People are allowed to do that.

Lott made a statement that was not true. We would not have been better off if Strome had been president, because Strome was a racist.

There is a difference in the statements.

Harry Reid

January 11th, 2010
1:42 pm

I am going to make everything right with Black America by solving the Black unemployment problem. I propose that the NBA be expanded to 5000 teams.

Hairy Banana Reid

January 11th, 2010
1:55 pm

Folks, we have an imposter in our midst.

Hairy Banana Reid

January 11th, 2010
1:58 pm

Presbo is ma homeboy… he ma peep diddy.

Hary Reid

January 11th, 2010
2:02 pm

I didn’t say all those things people say I said.

(quote stolen from Yoggi Berra)

Hairy Banana Reid

January 11th, 2010
2:05 pm

Here’s another Harry Reid joke. Harry went to church this past weekend and sat in his own pew.

ba da bum *cymbal crash*

HoJo

January 11th, 2010
2:05 pm

Satan and Obama must just love this. To quote the Emporer in Reurn of the Jedi during the lightsaber duel, “I can feel the ANNNGGGEEERR floooowwwwwwing through you!!!
You are all just being distracted from the REAL problems and part of it is the divisiveness being sewn by the Left AND the Right. The puppeteers who write the script for the bozos in office pit us against ourselves to fight, over race, money and status, while they garner more power for themselves. Don’t you ever wonder why super billonaires like George Soros, Bill Gates and Warren Buffer are liberals? They certaingly aren’t giving their money away for the greater good, but they are using their power and influence to shape policy, behavior and consumption to keep us shackled and the profits flowing to them. Please for Gods sake, open your eyes people!! We shouldn’t be fighting each other but the corporate and governmental monoliths that seek to enslave us. We all are so passive in regards to giving away our incremental freedoms but flame full of passion when someone dare says something disagreeable. We should all be more accepting of all opinions and dialogs and less accepting of the freedom choking litigous fear mongering and burearacratic corruption. Its here and we are being slowly swallowed alive by it. Join with your fellow brothers and sister and fight them!!

no name

January 11th, 2010
2:07 pm

Reid is one of the highest ranking democrats in congress. Do you think his comments weren’t shared by fellow members of his party or discussed in the vetting process? This election was all about race and using that to win the election. Obama was raised by his white mother and grandmother. He was half white, but the press touted this as a historic election for blacks. How is this so considering that his mother and grandmother educated him and gave him the resources to get where he is. (I personally think it a tribute to single mothers) This election was about skin color and Obama was used by the democrats to make the country feel good. The truth is, this election was all about race. Reid just told us that. America was played and for the democrats to accept responsibility would mean admiting this and jeopardizing future elections. It’s hypocritical but that is the nature of politics. Yes it’s racist and he should be removed, but again that won’t happen.

Wake up people, do your homework and know the candidates before you vote.

Bill Clinton

January 11th, 2010
2:10 pm

I do not have anything against Obama, in fact, I admire the work of many Black people. For instance, Halle Berry’s foreign policy is to be admired. And how about Beyonce’s remarks on the economy, and don’t get me started on Rhiana or Vivian Fox.

George

January 11th, 2010
2:14 pm

“Why don’t you slavery “experts” forget the Civil War, and spend your time on actual slavery?”

Excellent idea when southern whites stop waving the red flag in front of the blacks…ie., when southern whites stop waving the stupid confederate flag in front of black people reminding them of slavery and civil war! Will white southerners first assimilate into the United States of America and forget the civil war? That would be a start and black people should oblige!

Obama

January 11th, 2010
2:16 pm

Check out this White joke. Why did God invent White people? A. Someone has to pay retail!

Obama

January 11th, 2010
2:19 pm

Let me make it clear. Here is another White joke. What does a White person do when their car breaks down? A. They get it fixed!

kimmerq

January 11th, 2010
2:23 pm

It is amazing to me how liberals are given the privilege to unilaterally interpret the underlying intent of any and all verbal gaffes.

If Reid’s statement had been uttered by a conservative, the Rev. Al and all of the other liberal leaders would be all over it demanding his head on a platter and anyone with any intellectual honesty knows it. It is not unlike Bill Clinton given a pass by the libs, including the feminists, while being a total sexist pig bordering on sexual predator, in the white house.

As many has pointed out here, Reid’s remarks are much more inflammatory than Lott’s. Harry Reid spoke about Obama personally in an insensitive manner, directly about his race in an upcoming election. Trent Lott was trying to pump up a 100 year old man at his birthday party! He spoke of him in a general sense and never hinted at anything racial. He only said, ‘we wouldn’t have had all of these problems’. Well we’ve had thousands of problems this could apply to and one must make a big assumption that he was referring to race. We don’t have to guess with Harry’s comments!

I mean just put Harry’s words in Trent Lott’s mouth. Can you imagine the furor if a conservative uttered the words ‘Negro dialect’ in any context?

Obammi

January 11th, 2010
2:26 pm

I’m just wild about HARRY!

Joke man

January 11th, 2010
2:34 pm

What were the hardest 3 years of Harry Reid’s life? A. Seventh grade!

CPB

January 11th, 2010
2:35 pm

Corrected:
Thank you, Ms Tucker for an insightful look into this Reid discussion. I will not disrespect your opinion with INAPPROPRIATE, unobjective statements like some of our other LESS TACTFUL AJC readers. Whether I agree or disagree that Reid should step down (and I do believe to get this thing over with, he may need to), I appreciate your thoughts. Unfortunately, this Reid-Game Change debate is not going anywhere anytime soon.

Thanks again, Ms. Tucker. Some of your readers DO APPRECIATE YOU!

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Joke man

January 11th, 2010
2:36 pm

What is the difference between Harry Reid and a dead possum in the road? A. There are skid marks in front of the possum!

Harry Reid

January 11th, 2010
2:41 pm

I love Obama. I think he is the best Black President we have ever had.

itamazesme

January 11th, 2010
2:55 pm

I normally sit back and just observe, but today I wanted to state something here. I kind of agree with cutty in that you have to be black to truly understand why some view Reid’s or Lott’s statements as racist and others don’t.

I personally don’t think either one of them made racist statements. I think both of them did not think before they spoke.

I as a black american, can see why Mr. Reid’s statement was made, because there is some truth to what he stated. Mr. Lott I am sure didn’t know the repercussions of his statement.

I have had my own personal experiences when it comes to statements concerning race. Back in 2004, I was on a conference trip in the mountains of a certain state.. I was traveling with my company and I along with one other co-worker were the only 2 blacks out of 20 people in our group. Our first incident-we stopped to buy freshly picked apples. The gentlman was kind and sincere in speaking with us, however, he was unaware of the impact one of his statements made. He asked my co-worker who is black and 6′9″ was he there to visit the college to play basketball, and he asked me was (a black woman) I there to run track. Yes, the statement was stereotyping us because of our race, but we didn’t find it racist. The gentleman never gave me any inkling that he was racist, it was something he assumed.

That night we went to a restaurant with our group and we were the only two blacks there. People kept looking over at our table, but an elderly couple more so than anyone. After the couple finished their meals, they walked up to me at our table and told me I was the prettiest colored gal they had ever seen. You could have heard a pin drop. What did I do? I got up and hugged each of them and THANKED them for the compliment. The word colored was acceptable to them because of the era they grew up in. Although I was shocked by the term used, I knew that they meant no harm and were truly giving me what they thought was a true form of flattery.

Does racism still exist? YES – it is so evident in the posts that I read to some of these blogs. However, in this instance, I don’t think it has ANYTHING to do with the statement made but more so for potlical reasons.

Rev Al Sharptongue

January 11th, 2010
2:56 pm

Its so funny watching the wingnut bloggers get so upset and distort fascts when they are losing. Bob Barr got them last week and now they are ranting as usual @ the Black Queen Cynthia tucker.

Why are ypu people so bitter, angry and devisive?

chuck allison

January 11th, 2010
3:00 pm

The most important thing is that Lott and Reid were both speaking the TRUTH! And the truth is more important that the anyones “preference of the day.” BTW, I am light skinned, but I do speak with a dialect, because I like my dialect. Intelligent folks don’t avoid the truth.

ctucker

January 11th, 2010
3:02 pm

itamazesme, Thanks for sharing your stories. I have had very similar experiences with whites — particularly older ones — who said things that were awkward and insensitive, but they meant no harm, and I took no offense.

Obama

January 11th, 2010
3:07 pm

What do you call a White person on ‘Jeopardy’? A. A contestant!

OBAMA

January 11th, 2010
3:14 pm

Harry Reid loves this one. Why did the White man cross the road? A. To get to his job!

OBAMA

January 11th, 2010
3:19 pm

How many White men does it take to screw in a light bulb? A. One!

OBAMA

January 11th, 2010
3:22 pm

What do you call a bunch of White people sitting on a bench? (Old punch line) A. The Supreme Court! (New punch line) A. The NBA!

IRISHMAFIA

January 11th, 2010
3:33 pm

Then I’m sure you won’t be offended when I say “for a nigra girl she sure writes a lot of articles”. Not good ones but she writes them nonetheless.

stranger in a strange land

January 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

I got an anecdote, itamazesme got an anecdote, cynthina got an anecdote, all God’s children got an anecdote – but Oh Lord!! – whom will you send to provide a rational, logical, reason as to why (D) Reid statement is not worthy of the same reproach as (R) fill in the blank.

Skip

January 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

I guess none of you have ever been in a rural barbershop in this state. You’d really know how the good old boys feel.

uga_b

January 11th, 2010
3:45 pm

snoqualmiefalls

January 11th, 2010
11:43 am
I find it amusing reading comments defending the display of the Confederate Flag. Question… why fly the flag of the losing side from a Civil War over a hundred years ago? Are you folks celebrating your loss, celebrating the fact that your ancestors were losers?… rather odd. It is funny we don’t see this practice in China or Russia or Germany or Japan, why the American South??

—-I believe all those countries still fly their national flags. Tibet also still flies their flags.

ck hall

January 11th, 2010
3:48 pm

This story reminds me of the Middle East. Arabs and Jews have been at each other for over 2,000 years..So it will be in America between Whites and Blacks–It never stops..Or in Northern Ireland for over 400 hundred years or in Africa between the the Hutu’s and Tutsies, or in Iraq/Iran between Shiite and Suni Muslims..It is human nature!Sorry to say that but it is the truth.

Constructive Feedback

January 11th, 2010
3:52 pm

Ms Tucker:

Various Black Democrats are coming to Harry “Woodrow Wilson” Reid’s defense, pointing to his track record on CIVIL RIGHTS.

Question for you Ms Tucker:
Do YOU consider the results that are occurring today in the Black Community that so closely approximate the DEADLY results that happened during the ‘Civil Rights’ Movement to be “CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS” just the same?

Last month the Philadelphia Inquirer ran a story about the gross state of affairs of the criminal justice system in they city. There was an abundance of Witness Intimidation, Do It Yourself Revenge Justice and a hapless legal system that was made dysfunctional by willing Defense Attorneys that played the system.

I don’t understand how the Congressional Black Caucus can PRETEND that they are the arbiters of WHO is a “Civil Rights Advocate” when their districts and so many other “Progressively Lead” districts are the sight of today’s unchecked civil rights violations – that of Black on Black crime.

The CBC needs to be stripped of their ability to bestow such cover upon anyone.

bmchast

January 11th, 2010
3:55 pm

As an African American, female, 57 years old, I must say that if this is the worst comment that Harry Reid has made I do not see a need for a big uproar.

What I see as blatant racism is the white male journalist (and some females) on a news station, clearly in what I suppose is to be a covert way, disrespecting the President by not addressing his title properly (President Obama), or adding some derogatory remark to their statements instead of presenting an objective report.

Just look in their eyes, the hatred and disdain betrays these journalists. I’ve seen it on all the news networks. These are the people that need to make an apology, and if you are not man/woman enough to make an apology, just check yourself and stop being jack asses.

Also, I feel certain that if you run a list of the democrats and republicans that have made racially derogatory remarks, the list would be lengthy.

Urban Republican

January 11th, 2010
3:57 pm

Double standard, hypocrisy! Remember it was the “old-way-of-thinking” behind Trent Lott’s comments that was so scandalous. Clearly, Harry Reid thinks only light skinned blacks with proper dialect can be president, which is a notion that clearly perpetuates “color consciousness” which is racism. If Mitch McConnell had made the same comment, the media, civil rights leaders and the Congressional Black Caucus would be calling for his resignation.

Tom Middleton

January 11th, 2010
3:58 pm

Cynthia, what if I said, “I admire you for your ability to write good political commentary, but even more so because you’re black.” Would you think me prejudice? Probably, albeit prejudice FOR you, not against.

And what if you told me I was a fairly good writer, for a goofy-looking white boy, would you be prejudice? Again, probably, but who in their right mind would care, for your intent to compliment would be clear.

But what if I said that you have no right to make good political commentary because you’re black, and you told me that I was too stupid to be taken seriously because I’m white, would this be prejudice? I’m pretty sure that most could recognize this as the kind of prejudice America can do without, for it keeps us divided, not united, in our constitutional pursuit of freedom for all of us.

So what did Harry Reid say that was so wrong, especially since he was arguing in favor of a Barack Obama presidency, not against? And why is the Republican Party so hell-bent on keeping our beloved America divided, not united, in their absolute determination to find something wrong with every single thing the Democrats do?

Here’s an idea: Let’s give ourselves a certain amount of leeway in dealing with each other, recognizing good intentions when they’re present, and saving our shock and concern for that kind of prejudice that harms us – prejudice that divides. I’m pretty sure we all can learn to tell the difference if we really, really try, even those ignert Mo-Fos in the Republican Party, who can’t seem to get anything right these days! :)

Bite Me

January 11th, 2010
4:03 pm

OOOOHHH! Fox Sucks is mad….better hide the children.

This is what passes for thought on the left

Bite Me

January 11th, 2010
4:06 pm

Cynthia Tucker–Racism or stupidity?
Ummmm…..
I’m thinking….
Is both a choice?

reasonable

January 11th, 2010
4:07 pm

At the risk of riling folks up – to those who argue that slavery was not the cause of the Civil War. You are plain wrong, whether it was outrage in the upper South at limitations on expansion of slavery into the terrorities, fear of Republican influence through patronage in South Carolina and other deep South states that threatened slavery as an institution, or fear that the sales of slaves from the upper South to the lower South would increase the level of slaves in the lower South beyond the capacity of the lower South to control or absorb, slavery was at the core of the conflict. A review of the letters, speeches, and secession decrees of the time leave no doubt as to the centrality of slavery. For reference, please check speeches and letters by Jefferson Davis, Robert Toombs. Alexander Stephens, Robert Barnwell Rhett, William Lowndes Yancey among others, as well as the various states’ secession decrees. As to Lincoln, he opposed slavery on a personal level long before he was elected president and long before he issued his emancipation order affecting the seceeding states in 1862 (effective January 1, 1863). Further, Lincoln by the definitions of his time was a white supremacist but as even a shallow review of his orginal documents reveal, he evolved over time away from that view. By 1863 – 1865, he was meeting with the black abolitionist Frederick Douglass in the While House and Douglass said that of all the white leadership he met, Lincoln was the only one who he felt treated him as an equal. While Linclon does not meet the criterion for race relations for our times, he clearly held some of the most advanced views on race relations of any politician who had any sort of reasonable chance to be elected president in 1860.
As to Ms. Tucker’s contention on Senator Lott and Strom Thurmond, even a quick review of Thurmond’s career reveals his deep seated support of segregation, clear racist behavior, and zeal to deny African-Americans even basic levels of equality. I agree with Ms. Tucker that Lott’s comments were insensitive more than racist as were Reid’s. That both behaved stupidily is really beyond dispute. Finally, before someone writes in and says I do not know my history, let me explain my background. I hold a Ph.D. in history, have published articles and book reviews in history and read endless books on the South, the secession crisis, and the Civil War as well as endless amounts of primary source material. I am a white southerner with ancestors who fought in the Confederate Army. I admire their bravery, not their cause. History is too important to be distorted for current political and/or ideological views.

Dave

January 11th, 2010
4:11 pm

Tom Middleton @ 3:58

“even those ignert Mo-Fos in the Republican Party”

Is this what Reid was talking about when he referred to “Negro dialect?”

OBAMA

January 11th, 2010
4:14 pm

What does a White person do before a test? A. He studies!

DAVID-AJC Truth Detector

January 11th, 2010
4:24 pm

CYNTHIA…….you liberals are such blatant HYPOCRITs…….it is so transparent…..& obvious

Dr. R

January 11th, 2010
4:25 pm

Well, it’s both, since racism is a specific form of stupidity. I’m less focused, though, on whether there is a double standard for Democrats, than I am on the fact that Reid is a really lousy leader for the party, as is Pelosi. Ideology aside, those two are completely inept at leading an agenda in Congress. The first thing the president should have done after taking office was to fire them both and find competent leaders for both houses that could help him achieve his goals. Harry and Nancy are complete buffoons, both of them, and need to be thrown out. Alas. political parties seem to tolerate ineptitude because they put a higher value on seniority and orthodoxy to the party line than actual competence. The GOP has been no better in recent years. Can’t we get anybody GOOD to run the country? Right, left, whatever, someone with brains and the ability to think creatively and articulate a clear message, not just wet their finger to the prevailing winds.

Dr. R

January 11th, 2010
4:28 pm

And to follow through on Cynthia’s thought, if Reid isn’t a racist but is just an incompetent idiotic boob instead, is that a whole lot better for the country? I mean, I don’t want a Klansman in charge of anything (Robert Byrd …) but I think we also ought to have leaders who know better than to stick their huge foot in their flapping mouths all the time. Someone please tell me what Reid (or Pelosi) have done to earn their mantles as party leader other than show up for a long time? Reid is a complete fool and the sooner the Democrats get rid of him, the sooner they’ll be taken seriously as a majority party.

Marshall

January 11th, 2010
4:42 pm

“I’ve met my share of white good ‘ol boys who drove pickup trucks with rebel flag decals but who were, nevertheless, unfailingly polite and helpful to me. I’ve also met well-educated Northern whites who were quite polite to me….but all wer sophmoric, moronic and insensitive boobs.”

Okay, you’ve covered both types of men, but have you ever met a stoic, underachieving fatalist who is impolitely beyond help?

guy

January 11th, 2010
4:54 pm

People should be able to say what they want and express their true feelings.No one said a word when people said bad things about George Bush. I bet Cynthia Tucker never commented on that.I think we all know who the spoons(people who stir up controversy) are. There is and always be racism and critism on both sides.There’s nothing that will ever change that.Cynthia,it is what it is so let it be. You and I can’t change it anyway!

HRPufnstuf

January 11th, 2010
4:57 pm

OK Cynthia, I think you sound pretty good without a Negro dialect.

Now, tell me if I’m racist or not! Can’t, can you? Because you don’t know yet if I vote Republican or Democrat!

Of COURSE good ole boy Harry isn’t a racist. He could even drive a pickup truck, sing Dixie, and wave a confederate flag, as long as he’s a Democrat, couldn’t he Cynthia?

ZingerKing.com

January 11th, 2010
5:02 pm

Of course its stupidity. Harry Reid is a Democrat. He has a critical role in getting health care done. We back him all the way. Now that Trent Lott. He was a Republican. And what he said about Strom Thurmond from 60 years ago has to be racist. He clearly had to be thrown out of his leadership role. Pass the sugar so I can sweeten the Kool Aid a little more.

MUSTANG100

January 11th, 2010
5:03 pm

So just WHEN is Tucker leaving the AJC anyway? That isn’t too insensitive a question, is it? If it is, then her Rebel Flag simile is just plain old barnyard leavings.

allen

January 11th, 2010
5:05 pm

Cindy, you are the biggest racist of all. Spewing your vitriol all over the most gullible and misinformed element of our society is basically cowardly and boring. We have tried to put up with your normal rantings, but it hasn’t worked. Please stay in Washington.

Donna

January 11th, 2010
5:47 pm

Reid is a stupid,old racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Tom Middleton

January 11th, 2010
5:57 pm

Dave@4:11pm: Is this what Reid was talking about when he referred to “Negro dialect?”

But…but…but Dave, “ignert” is white dialect, get it? Oh nevermind!

OneFreeMan

January 11th, 2010
6:05 pm

It’s so sad…people falling all over themselves trying to excuse a bigoted comment. It’s even worse when “blacks” defend obvious bigoted comments by other “blacks”.

I would like to see political correctness in politics and business eliminated. Say what you want and discriminate with customers. Too many hypocrites are benefitting from PC.

MysteryMoves

January 11th, 2010
6:26 pm

The GOP racists seem a little upset. It’s tough not knowing the difference between right and wrong. Like Al Quati, you’ll have the after life for more education.

MysteryMoves

January 11th, 2010
6:45 pm

Cynthia, what were you expecting? This is the (RED) state of Georgia. These rednecks are still trying to fight the (forgotten loss) Civil War. When you have an IQ of 50 the only things that matters is your gun. So, they use the judicial system in every way possible to ensure guns can be carried on plane, church, kindergarten … wherever, or Palin Fox News subject matter expert to explain government death panels or Russian politics (seen from binoculars in Alaska). My point is that you can’t argue with a tree!! Stick to story’s that the rednecks can identify with like Bud – beer or dog!

get rid of reid

January 11th, 2010
7:05 pm

You folks defending Reid should check some of the other news sites for their polls. 67% of the people responding on MSNBC are calling for his resignation. That number is 92% on Foxnews.com. The majority obviously are offended.

DBCOOPER

January 11th, 2010
8:33 pm

wow!!!!! some about race in a Tucker column!

I find Avatar racist. I find Harry Reids comments racist. I find Trent Lotts comments racist. I find Joe Biden’s comments racist DEEP BREATH. I find Bill Clintons comments racist, I find Bugs Bunny’s comments racist. I find Jimmy “the greek’s” comments racist. I find Rush Limbaugh’s comments racist. DEEP BREATH, DEEP BREATH.I find everything ever muttered about a negro racist. Wait a minute is negro racist? I have no idea OH No! maybe it was racist !!! Oh no I’m so confused! wait a minute I have dark skin does that make it okay???

RJ

January 11th, 2010
8:50 pm

If a White person is walking in the woods alone and he says something, is he a racist?

Workingmom

January 11th, 2010
8:56 pm

I do not even take this stuff seriously anymore. The rule is if a Republican says it it’s racist, if a Dem says it it’s not. No one takes these charges seriously anymore.

Souljah

January 11th, 2010
9:01 pm

Cynthia, SISTA ! You ben hang’n wit whitey to long ! Cum on down to da ‘hood evry now n’ then, no whut Im say’n ?

Terrence Moore

January 11th, 2010
9:02 pm

The Caucazoid is inherently RACIST.

Workingmom

January 11th, 2010
9:06 pm

Let’s at least agree on what the definition of Racism is,

A BELIEF THAT SOME RACES ARE BY NATURE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS. Now we can debate.

Ce'phus

January 11th, 2010
9:09 pm

Lawd hab mercy da colored foke ar sho stir’red up oba dat ‘ol crack’r Harry Reid. Yowza, Yowza, Yowza.

Workingmom

January 11th, 2010
9:11 pm

Grectchen wrote

“when a Republican, we all know who he is, called the President of the U.S. a liar in front of the whole nation. So why was he not forced to step down.” So why was he not forced to step down.

Because we have the right to free speech and it was well documented that the President had lied about the subject in question.

C Tucker

January 11th, 2010
9:12 pm

If anyone knows “moronic behavior”, it is Cythina Tucker.

Logic

January 11th, 2010
9:14 pm

Let’s face it, the Democrats always get a pass on race comments.
It just part of the plantation management system.

Mjarman

January 11th, 2010
9:14 pm

Please, tell me what Reid said that was not true? Obama is light skinned and he can “sound black” when he wants to. Do you think Obama does not know he is light skinned and that he can tailor his dialect according to his audience? All you thin skinned folks, get over it!

Workingmom

January 11th, 2010
9:15 pm

Ediie wrote,

“Lott made a statement that was not true.”

Prove it. Quote Lott’s statement and then tell us what was not true. It is an opinion statement, Edward, it can’t be true or false. Holy Moly

C. Tucker

January 11th, 2010
9:18 pm

i don’t know nuin bout birthing babies or bout edtorals.

Workingmom

January 11th, 2010
9:19 pm

“Please, tell me what Reid said that was not true? Obama is light skinned and he can “sound black” when he wants to”

You are correct. The problem is that “some” were offended and that is not allowed in the US. See Article 17 of the US Const. Reps are mad, rightly so, because the media has a double standard.

For goodness sakes. Jeffers out of LA was caught with marked bills in his frezzer and still has not been asked to quite by his Party. Anything goes in the Democrat party in todays world.

not a CT fan

January 11th, 2010
9:35 pm

I don’t think he was being racist. But it may have been politically stupid for him to make that ciomment, even if it’s actually true. A former friend from Louisiana told me that darker skin blacks were discriminated against more than the lighter skinned blacks. But even within the white population, the better looking people (men or woman) and tall people seem to fare much better.

BPower

January 11th, 2010
9:41 pm

Racism or Stupidity Thats what I’ve been saying about Cynthia for years!

JHC54

January 11th, 2010
9:56 pm

Cynthia,

Thanks for putting this issue into its proper perspective. Reids remarks were taken out of context as he was praising President Obama’s qualifications for president. And the President understood that and accepted the apology.

Trent Lott’s comments were directed at how much better the country would be today if the old segregationist, Strom Thurmond, had been elected president in 1948. With statements like that and the Republican positions on civil rights, the voting rights act, and their desire to have federal election oversight of southern states end – why would any american trust the Republican party?

radiowxman

January 11th, 2010
10:14 pm

Reid’s comment’s weren’t racist, just stupid.

He was much more racist when he essentially said that Clarence Thomas wasn’t smart enough to be a Supreme Court justice.

Bill Clinton was being racist when he (allegedly) told Ted Kennedy that Obama would have been serving them coffee if it had been several years ago.

His wife was being racist when, on the campaign, she cracked a joke about Gandhi running a mini-mart in St. Louis.

George Allen was being racist when he called someone “Macacca.”

3 of the 4 have active political careers. Wonder what the difference is?

Pecan

January 11th, 2010
10:22 pm

I have not read one comment on this blog. I will say that as we get to know one another “one on one” we find out that our biases and preconceived opinions about each other’s race, ethnicity, religion, etc., are wrong. Will we ever see another person without first looking at the color of their skin? There is a book I read once that said we all came from the same parents and were created by the same Being.

Pecan

January 11th, 2010
10:25 pm

Wow, now that I looked at couple, I’m glad I didn’t read this trash. I thought sports blogs were bad!

OBAMA

January 11th, 2010
10:34 pm

This is Michelle’s favorite. What is White foreplay? A. Drying the dishes!

Khrystal Ball

January 11th, 2010
10:47 pm

Ms Tucker, thank you for your post. It is exhausting to see the boorish mundane posts from people who just want to sling mud. They take the Reid remark (which I am on the fence about) and use it as though it was the fashion trend of the week. Its that tit for tat mentality that make commoners like me turn away from the MSM and the blogosphere because its shockingly devoid of real debate and analysis.

I am also flabergasted that Obama didnt use this opportunity to launch a Race in America theSequel to his earlier race speech. No it doesnt warrant a beer summit but both were extraordinary teachable moments and I dont understand why he missed an opportunity. Guess it didnt poll well.

Finally, I am nauseated by people (all hues) who think they are in the Right Fight if they club you like a baby seal because you made an insensitve comment. I wonder how some of these liberals are qualified to speak of the racialized diaspora or structural racism or the psychological impacts of America’s segregated history on people of color. I have been black all my life, studied AA studies, read countless pieces on the topic yet I dont hoist myself up as though I am the Racist police. You dont know what’s in someone’s heart, so dony judge. Teach. Dialogue. Debate – dont hate.

Soothsayer

January 12th, 2010
12:39 am

Cynthia, Obama would accept Reid or any other politician suggestion he is a “n word” if he thought it would move forward his agenda to socialize America. And you would join the president in his decision. Let us hope this is the straw that breaks the back of Reid in this year’s election and stops Obama’s destruction of America. Better yet let us home one democrat or independent senator will wake up and shoot the health bill right between it’s political eyes with a “No” vote.

Left wing management

January 12th, 2010
12:52 am

Sorry, but I have to respectfully take issue with you here, Cynthia Tucker. I believe that Peter Beinart is exactly right to say that for all its uncomfortableness, Reid’s statement was entirely TRUE and that we do ourselves a great disservice as a nation to simply recoil from looking soberly at such uncomfortable truths as these.

Incidentally, I’m quite surprised no one has noticed that this episode perfectly illustrates the truth of Michael Kinsley’s famous definition of a gaffe some years back as occurring not when a public figure speaks an untruth, but when he speaks a truth.

Robert

January 13th, 2010
1:52 pm

Reid’s comments may have been politically incorrect, but think about it. What he said was true. If President Obama wore his pants half way down his bottom and spoke like a rapper, he would never have been elected. That, my friends is a fact. This is a non-story.

If he were white, he never would have been elected either!

Bobby

January 13th, 2010
1:54 pm

If he were white, he never would have been elected either!

Reid’s comments may have been politically incorrect, but think about it. What he said was true. If President Obama wore his pants half way down his bottom and spoke like a rapper, he would never have been elected. That, my friends is a fact. This is a non-story.

JOHN ODD OWL

January 15th, 2010
3:59 am

Senator Harry Reed is “The Man”… He’s one “cool” Mormon. Any Man who can cajole 60 wayward Democrat Senators to get their ducks in a row and vote the same way on health care is “The Man” i want leading the Democrat controlled Senate. You Repuklicans are just envious because we Dems have Harry Reed and You Repuks have Ole Mitch McConnell. Johmmy Icksason will be forced into a primary race by a Tea Bag party candidate. It will open the door for a Democrat win.

Drizzit

January 20th, 2010
4:02 pm

Reid’s comments are the tip of the ice burg! He’s out of touch with us, and he stands above us like a king. He thinks he can do or say anything, and his fellow groupies are going down with him. You can’t save him by comparing him to someone else, or bashing Republicans.

Drizzit

January 20th, 2010
4:06 pm

Us TEA Baggers are driving the revolution, and every time you rant against us & slander our cause you add fuel to the flames. Reid is losing to every opposition candidate, and the rebels roll on.

Our Pal Harry | Blackinformant.com

January 26th, 2010
12:59 pm

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