Part II: A bad man, not a bad religion
You can usually see the warning signs with the 20/20 vision of hindsight, of course. So it is with Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan, who allegedly went on a killing spree at Ft. Hood, Texas last week, mowing down dozens, killing 13.
Now, after he has already killed many and maimed others, investigators are finding evidence that Hasan was, at the very least, deeply troubled. Perhaps the most obvious sign was a lecture he gave a year and a half ago, in which he warned that Muslims soldiers should be allowed to duck out of fighting against fellow Muslims to avoid “adverse events.”
“It’s getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims,” he said in the presentation.
The first thing to note is this: Many Muslim Americans who are serving courageously in the U.S. Armed Forces disagree strenously.
Some of the thousands of Muslims in the U.S. military worry that one burst of violence could unravel all of their work to be accepted as loyal, dedicated soldiers, and that their reputation could be another casualty of the attack.
“Just as this guy in Fort Hood doesn’t represent every single Muslim in the world or in this county, the few ignorant or racist people that remain in the military, they are so few and far between, they do not represent the military at large,” said Ashkan Bayatpour, 25, a U.S. Navy veteran and the American-born son of Iranian immigrants.
You can hardly blame them for worrying, since so many commentators and some politicians are rushing to stigmatize all Muslim soldiers.
The second thing to note is this: The military has never fully come to terms with the emotional trauma of war; but, since the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, it has tried to do better, stepping up its efforts to treat combat stress. That may have led officers to overlook Hasan’s own mental problems; after all, the military needed psychiatrists.
It’s now clear the Army has to do a better job of making sure its mental health professionals are up to the task.
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v racer
November 10th, 2009
8:07 am
God, are you stupid!
Peadawg
November 10th, 2009
8:15 am
Couldn’t find anything else to talk about? You had to put another blog up about “Bad man, not a bad religion”? Let the Cynthia bashing begin: Part II.
Turd Feguson
November 10th, 2009
8:18 am
You can usually see the warning signs with the 20/20 vision of hindsight
AND
You can usually see the warning signs with the 20/20 vision of FORESIGHT. Such as HITLER, MAO etc…not that these silly islams are anywhere close, however, had Hitler been assassainated early on the WW2 would never have occured.
Neville Chamberlain…*TEWY*
These islam-burgers need to be stopped dead in their tracks. Here is some more foresight for ya…We can do it now or do it later!!
dewstarpath
November 10th, 2009
8:34 am
- V racer – Everyone has a right to their opinion, even if
you don’t agree with it.
norman ravitch
November 10th, 2009
8:37 am
The only thing good I can say about Islam is that it has had only 1400 years, a bit less actually, to fail to improve. By 1400 Christianity was also pretty awful. Will Islam become better in the next 500 years? Who knows?
pat
November 10th, 2009
8:47 am
So this guy yelling “Allah Akkbah” as he is murdering people doesn’t really mean anything to you? The fact that the majority of violence in the world is perpetuated by muslims in the name of islam doesn’t cause you to link things together?
I don’t know if islam is a bad or good religion…Certainly the actions of it’s practitioners have to make you wonder sometimes….I am going to give islam itself, the benefit of the doubt, whether it deserves it or not, but you cannot ignore these simple facts about people who practice islam and the problem is indeed wide spread, they are racists and anti-Semites, they are sexist and abusive towards women, and they murder with imputnity…You’d have to be dumber than mule dung to think the problem is small and isolated. Facts show it as global and wide spread. In fact, Islamic violence is so prevalent, you don’t even hear about it much any more. The beheadings and kidnappings in Indonesia and the Philipines, the ethnic cleansing in Somalia, the gang rapes and murders of the civilians in Chad, Sudan, and Darfur perpetuated by the Jinjaweed, who are self proclaimed muslim soldiers…
Again, I don’t know if islam is the culprit, I’d like to believe that it is wracked with heresy. But it is both ignorant and stupid, to your own detriment, to disregard this problem as being wide spread.
We can’t fix islam’s problems, but we have to protect ourselves to… Finding that balance with out falling into the trap of being racist bigots ourselves is the key and a delicate balance, but we have to walk this line. Lives are literally at stake.
SouthernGal
November 10th, 2009
8:50 am
Someone please tell me why someone opposed to war would join the military?
mike thompson
November 10th, 2009
8:53 am
In the 1939 Colliers World Almanac they did a real nice article on Adolf Hitler. according to the Almanac Adolf Hitler’s voting base was the evangelical Christians and the Catholic.
The same bunch that cheered for the right wing of the Republican Party. check and see how many of the tea baggers, Town Hall screamers, and 9 12 protesters are evangelical Christians or Catholic.
hindsight never works propaganda always works.
RAMBLE ON!!!
November 10th, 2009
9:06 am
Hey, Janet Napolitano warned us about these “right wing extremist”.
Thankfully we have a President that is not afraid to give a “shout out” to the victim’s family.
Atleast the Stimulus Bill is working “better than expected”.
jt
November 10th, 2009
9:11 am
Pat- well said
“We can’t fix islam’s problems, but we have to protect ourselves to… Finding that balance with out falling into the trap of being racist bigots ourselves is the key and a delicate balance, but we have to walk this line.”
To avoid confrontation , the CT’s of the world are buying Amira shawls. Her hair should not be seen in public.
cranky old man
November 10th, 2009
9:16 am
It is quite possible for both of the following statements to be true:
“Most Muslims are not terrorists.”
“Most terrorists are Muslims.”
Even if only 1/10 of 1% of all Muslims participate in or support terrorist groups, that’s still a huge number of psychopaths when you consider there are over 1,000,000,000 Muslims worldwide.
The profiles of some of the more recent terrorists are rather disturbing. The guy at Ft. Hood, for instance, was highly educated, and, presumably, very intelligent. Given that, one would assume he was also logical and rational, and at least somewhat reasonable. Some of the 9/11 highjackers were, reportedly, not very religious. They were also well educated, liked a good party, and didn’t show their faces in a mosque very often. One would assume that well educated, intelligent, secular people with bright futures ahead of them would not be likely jihad recruits. That’s what makes Americans more paranoid about Islamic terrorism as opposed to, say, white supremacists. The latter group tend to be less educated, quite loud and obnoxious about their views, and more predictable. In other words, you can see it coming.
norman ravitch
November 10th, 2009
9:21 am
Mike Thompson: you are wrong about Hitler’s support. Before he came to power his supporters were mostly Protestants. Catholics and Socialists were his principal opponents. Once he took power all Germans either had to seem pro-Nazi or actually were in favor of much of Nazi policy, but you cannot condemn Catholics for supporting him. I have read Colliers World Almanac, but in 1939 there were may notions about Hitler and the Nazis which were not accurate.
Block #23
November 10th, 2009
9:29 am
Then why are there so FEW Muslims in the military? Most are interpreters or some other non-combat job. And “most” of those FEW are hopefully loyal to this country. However, where are the thousands and thousands we need to go fix bayonets and kill Taliban? THEY AREN’T ENLISTING !!
In WW II we had the 442nd Combat Brigade made up entirely of Japanese who killed Germans as fast as they could find them. They were Army’s most decorated unit.
Only a fool would not realize we in this country now have a serious problem in our midst.
Just in case you haven’t read this yet …………… it’s very prophetic!
THE HAND OF ISHMAEL
“In the seventh century of the Christian era a wandering Arab, of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combing the powers of transcendent genius with the preternatural energy of a fanatic and the fraudulent spirit of an imposter, proclaimed himself as a messenger from heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth.”
“Adopting, from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God, he connected indissolubly with it the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion.”
“He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war as part of his religion against all the rest of mankind. The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust; to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.”
“Between these two religions, thus contrasted in the characters, a war of more than twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extincture of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute are encouraged to furnish motives to human action, there never can be peace on earth and good will toward men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him.”
John Adams, 1830
Turd Feguson
November 10th, 2009
9:38 am
Thankfully we have a President that is not afraid to give a “shout out” to the victim’s family.
A “shout-out” from a president…how ghetto.
jconservative
November 10th, 2009
9:55 am
This is the presentation Hasan made to senior Army medical people in June 2007.
“The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military.”
“…he lectured on Islam, suicide bombers and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting wars in Muslim countries.”
The man gave a lecture on what could happen & was ignored.
And what he predicted did happen, by his own hand. Another example of the US military ignoring the facts before their eyes. Remember the Christian fundamentalist movement at the Air Force academy. Dozens of officers were retired early as a result. But the Air Force had warnings for years and ignored those warnings.
Large institutions have a hard adjusting to changes. The Army might want to pull Hasan’s lecture out and carefully review it. They apparently have a problem with troops of the Muslim faith that they are not prepared to resolve. His thoughts may help.
Block #23
November 10th, 2009
10:01 am
To jconservative:
I doubt that would happen. The brass is scared of CAIR, the ACLU and now our closet Muslim president.
Call it like it is.
November 10th, 2009
10:20 am
Just remember, not ever Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim. The time to be PC is over. Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Why can’t we use common sense in these matters? There are less then 2000 muslim soliders in our armies. Get them out now. Will we be hurting some of them, YES, does it matter, NO. They are members of a perverse religion that is built on a foundation of hate and murder.
Even now you can go to our airports and see the 90 year old woman get taken out of line to do a security check, but the 20 something dark skin male from the middle east is left alone, so there want be racial profiling. This has to end, common sense needs to prevail!
Most terriosts are Muslim, most are from the middle east. Is it that hard to figure out who to look for?
Kamchak
November 10th, 2009
10:45 am
Just remember, not ever Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim.
Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim?
DAVID
November 10th, 2009
10:51 am
CLUELESS…….clueless Ms. Tucker……..Absolutely clueless
Dan
November 10th, 2009
11:02 am
No this is political correctness’ reality toll, because of social sensitivities, a person with obviously radical views and activities was allowed to continue along because everyone was afraid to hurt someones feelings! Obama had no worry of the facts when Gates was arrested, or when the abortion doctor was murdered “he was shocked and outraged” then
(as he should be by the way) so why are his first words now a call for calm??? are you serious!! This was even more shocking and outrageous and clearly idealistically motivated. The emporer still has not found his clothes
SC Birdflyte
November 10th, 2009
11:06 am
The shooter had already shot his mouth off while he was in the DC area, but he waited until he got to Texas to buy his weapons. Of course, if they had corraled him while he was waiting in line at the gun shop to pay for his purchases, the NRA would have jumped all over the FBI or local law enforcement.
ken
November 10th, 2009
11:17 am
You cannot talk about military “emotion ” till you have been there. YOU just do not comprehend. Political Correctness is just another way of taking away our FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Political Correctness killed those soldiers.
Bill
November 10th, 2009
11:21 am
“The military has never fully come to terms with the emotional trauma of war; but, since the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, it has tried to do better, stepping up its efforts to treat combat stress.”
How can this nut job have combat stress? He has never seen combat!! Hello!!
DAVID
November 10th, 2009
11:24 am
Cynthis has no concern about the 13 who were killed by this terrorist……Just the religion of the terrorist……& how it is perceived.
Spartann
November 10th, 2009
11:27 am
Tooo funny…at 10:50AM I turned Cynthia Tucker’s words around on her and somebody turned me in to the AJC secret police for moderation….. Atlanta, you never disappoint…you gooooo now miss thing.
Turd Feguson
November 10th, 2009
11:40 am
Kamchak
November 10th, 2009
10:45 am
From what Ive heard he had mosslum leanings.
Block #23
November 10th, 2009
11:58 am
To SC Birdflyte @ 11:06 :
No but CAIR would have !!!
Del
November 10th, 2009
12:09 pm
Commentators and politicians stigmatizing all Muslim solders? I’ve been following this tragic story and haven’t seen commentary stigmatizing all Muslim solders. I think that from what has now come out it is fair to say that this killer was a believer in radical Islam. Whether or not he was unaffiliated with other radical Muslims will eventually come out one way or the other.
God Bless and keep those families who lost loved ones at Ft. Hood.
To the United States Marine Corps, Happy 234th. Birthday. Semper Fi
eddy
November 10th, 2009
12:09 pm
And so Cynthia….if you lose your keys in the dark parking lot, you’d go look for them under the light pole across the parking lot just cause there is light there? When the terrorist gives you every signal he can without overtly stating his intentions, you just ignore him!!! Good grief. Political correctness has officially contributed to the body count for the war against terrorism. Sorta like when you ask, why are the prisons full of black males? Well, they commit the significant majority of the crimes….intuitively obvious to most folks but some exceptions do post here.
Block #23
November 10th, 2009
12:13 pm
EXCERPT FROM AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE :
What’s behind America’s politically correct ‘love’ of Islam?
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Posted: November 09, 2009
9:25 pm Eastern
David Kupelian
So, why do we have this stubborn inability to come to grips with Islam?
Everyone attributes it to “political correctness,” but I think it’s time to move beyond that shallow, passé, near-meaningless phrase.
Do we dare admit what is really at play here? The truth is actually very simple.
We are afraid of Islam.
We are intimidated by Islam.
And because we are afraid of and intimidated by Islam, Islam is changing us – in two distinct and profound ways.
First, as is appallingly obvious, we’re afraid to criticize Islam openly, for fear of having our head cut off or having a fatwa put out on us like the director of the new “2012″ film, or we’re afraid of being sued by some of the very litigious Islamic organizations like CAIR, or we’re afraid of being called a racist, extremist, hater or “Islamophobe” thanks to the tyranny of political correctness, or we’re afraid of offending those in power and thereby risking our position, stature or other advantage. This reaction, while perhaps selfish and cowardly, is more-or-less conscious and strategic.
However, for some it goes much deeper: Being intimidated by Islam (or by anything, for that matter) actually causes some of us to mysteriously grow sympathetic toward it, to defend it, to side with it, even to convert to it. This unconscious shift in attitude, in response to fear of being hurt, is called the Stockholm syndrome, named after the 1973 Swedish bank robbery during which the four terrorized hostages sided with their criminal captors while disparaging the police risking their lives trying to save them.
We need to understand that a certain percentage of us, when we’re intimidated and upset, start to emotionally gravitate toward and agree with whatever is intimidating us. Not just superficially, as a temporary tactic of placating a bully so he won’t hurt us, but more profoundly, deep down in the inner sanctum of our being where our thoughts and feelings germinate and our loyalties bloom.
Intimidation – that is, causing others to react with upset and fear – is a fundamental principle of mind control, fully capable of causing the victim’s loyalties to shift toward the intimidator, whether a schoolyard bully, gang leader, child molester, hostage-taking bank robber or Islamic radical.
“Political correctness” – which is basically a low-grade Stockholm syndrome playing out on a broad societal stage – is actually a subtle form of brainwashing. Even establishment mouthpiece Newsweek, in its famous Dec. 24, 1990, cover story on the then-new phenomenon of political correctness on college campuses (titled “Thought Police”) conceded this truth when it reported: “PC is, strictly speaking, a totalitarian philosophy.”
Bottom line: We’re intimidated, bullied, threatened, terrorized – and so we capitulate, not just in word and deed, but in thought. Get it?
Most of the time, of course, this occurs below the radar of our own consciousness. We don’t understand what’s really happening. So we interpret our growing sympathy and affinity for whatever intimidated us as evidence of our loving, open-minded, enlightened nature. In reality, it’s the result of craven weakness on our part.
Grob Hahn
November 10th, 2009
12:15 pm
I can’t help but wonder if this guy counseled any of the soldiers who committed suicide at Ft. Hood since he arrived.
Grob
Anita Mao Dunn
November 10th, 2009
12:53 pm
As usual Cynthia is wrong.
Bad guy – YES
When clerics around the world stop praising this SOB and start condemning him on Al Jazeera I might wonder.
It’s always, “Well it was bad BUT he had a good reason” thinking in the islamic world.
Try building a Christian church in an Islamic country. In many places you can be executed for converting to another religion besides Islam.
Obama = Closet Islamist and marxist.
No thanx Kenyan POTUS.
AJC Fan
November 10th, 2009
1:04 pm
Cynthia, I’m sorry but this was a very weak posting.
“….since so many commentators and some politicians are rushing to stigmatize all Muslim soldiers.”
Really? Who? Your comment would have been stronger if you cited a mainstream commentator or a politician who has “stigmatized all Muslim soldiers.”
“…The military has never fully come to terms with the emotional trauma of war…It’s now clear the Army has to do a better job of making sure its mental health professionals are up to the task.”
The Army has done a fantastic job of making sure its mental health professionals are up to the task. How many thousands of Army mental health professionals are going around killing their fellow soldiers? Answer: none.
Hasan didn’t kill 13 people because of war trama, he killed them because he was a Islamic radical who believed in killing the infidels (i.e., your and I).
Cynthia, it’s o.k. to call an Islamic terrorist an Islamic terrorist. These are evil people. If we don’t confront the evil for what it is, we’ll never defeat it.
clyde
November 10th, 2009
1:31 pm
I was thinking that by our standards the shooter at Ft.Hood is certifiably crazy,but by the standards of a Muslim he is rational and sane.And looked up to.There’s a gulf here that we’re not going to be able to bridge.
Chris Broe
November 10th, 2009
1:59 pm
killing spree. shopping spree.
spree
The language is so dead.
“bad man” is such a trite expression.
“mowing down” is another poor syntactical choice.
Leiberman thinks Fort Hood was terrorism. But remember he thinks that Rx Reform is socialism, that Obama’s authority is totalitarianism, and anything Nancy Pelosi says is fanaticism…..
There’s an Al Queda website? Should we all go check it out? Should we act all 007 and pretend to want to join (as double agents, of course)?
Al Queda must get crackpots all day long saying they want to blow up this and kill that. That’s why Mr. Hasan’s emails with Al Queda are so cryptic. He’d certainly be written off as a joker if he exposed his plans to kill US citizens. Think about it. How would you approach the task of blogging on an Al Queda website so that you could get some sort of guidance about your own private 911?
“Yes, I’d like to keel infidels. I was hoping that somebody in Al Queda would give me ideas about how to make something go KABOOM. This is not a hoax, I’m really a terrorist…allah be praised!”
See? there’s no way to figure out how to broach the subject of a terrorist conspiracy, without either exposing oneself to homeland security, or without convincing Al Queda that you’re a clown.
Mr Hasan’s leaked messages to the Al Queda website are weird. Perhaps there’s a coded message in them. Somebody do a search for anything remotely approaching, “The wolf howls at midnight”.
Surely the uber-psychologists and decyphering wizards on this blog can contribute some new insight into the construction of a quantum matrix that would enable a pattern search of a random-arrayed sampling of emails…..
better yet, someone buy a box of Cracker Jacks and use the secret decoder ring…..
….be sure to use your clever aliases, because you don’t want to end up like Valerie Plame or Miss MoneyPenny or the Saucer Mom….
Q
ck hall
November 10th, 2009
2:18 pm
Typical political correctness from you. The guy is a terrorist and it will all come out in the end.Traumatic disorder?–Hogwash! He hadn’t even been near combat!
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
2:47 pm
Islam is not just a “religion”.
It is an economic, social, political, legal, educational, military and religious system. We ignore that at our peril.
georgia
November 10th, 2009
2:54 pm
Enter your comments here
georgia
November 10th, 2009
2:57 pm
This character made treasonous statements while wearing the uniform of the US Army. He should have been arrested, tried, and hung before he committed the horrible murders. His superiors who did not take the proper actions, for whatever reason, need to be held accountable. Any hope that the CIC will take any action at all.
Dave
November 10th, 2009
3:14 pm
“….since so many commentators and some politicians are rushing to stigmatize all Muslim soldiers.” – I have been following this story very closely and I haven’t seen one example of this, not one. What is sad to me is the failure of leadership on the part of the military to either recognize the potential treat this man posed or their unwillingness to properly deal with it will most probably result in non-Muslin soldiers not trusting their fellow Muslin soldiers. There is no such thing as PC in the foxhole, only trust in each other. Their leadership has failed ALL of our soldiers.
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
3:26 pm
To Dave:
Thank you sir !
People who have never served in a “foxhole” (fighting hole in the Marine Corps) have no concept of what you are talking about ………….. but then they are protected by better men than themselves.
norman ravitch
November 10th, 2009
3:46 pm
Timothy Veigh was not a Muslim.
Dave
November 10th, 2009
3:47 pm
Common Sense – Thank you sir, and Happy Birthday Marine!
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama
November 10th, 2009
3:55 pm
Where’s Rodney King when we need him? Can’t we all just get along?
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
4:07 pm
“A rifle pointing downwards into the ground is a memorial of a soldier killed in action. Often the rifle is capped by a helmet, dog tags and at the bottom, a pair of boots to represent the final march of the last battle – items the soldier has no further need for.”
Let’s award those purple hearts Mr. President !!!
Ben
November 10th, 2009
4:17 pm
I was wondering how long it would take you to start apologizing for this killer. It seems that you and CNN were racing each other to start crying about how “stressed” out he was and micro-analyzing the pressures that led this poor persecuted man to kill all of those infidels who were oppressing him and those of his faith.
MAC
November 10th, 2009
4:20 pm
PC thinking like Cynthia is why 13 soldiers are dead.
She is not only naive but dangerously so.
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
4:25 pm
To Ben and MAC:
Supposedly, there is evidence coming out that this terrorist tried to contact other terrorists.
Chris Matthews today said “when is it illegal to call Al Quaida?”
That is just how the liberal mind works. They will find an excuse for anything.
Del
November 10th, 2009
4:53 pm
Common Sense,
Amen
USMC 1961-1967 0311 infantry 2 yrs. 2533 Recon 18 months
Del
November 10th, 2009
4:54 pm
Common Sense,
Amen on the Hearts
Del
November 10th, 2009
5:03 pm
Block#23 9:29am, interesting post
Steve
November 10th, 2009
5:19 pm
In this man’s mind he was commiting a terroristic act.
So he is a terrorist.
extremerightwing
November 10th, 2009
5:29 pm
Let’s put in in terms CT can understand .Not calling out islam for what it is is like saying slaves were on cruise ships.
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
5:40 pm
Del:
Happy Birthday Marine !
India 3/4 and 3rd Marine Scout-Snipers (1967-68 DMZ)
Ooo Rah !
Peaches
November 10th, 2009
5:59 pm
O nonsense.
First Hasan did not have any trauma from war. He never fought. I have a lot of sympathy for people who fight and deal with consequences. Not much for this twit, who took our money for his training and his provison but then developed a crisis when faced with actual deployment. This man is a selfish, weak coward. Don’t give him the honor of a soldier.
Second, if generalizing from Hassan is a bad idea, don’t do it. We can’t make him typical of all Muslims. Don’t make him typical of people who fight in wars.
Tucker is really mailing it in these days.
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
6:12 pm
Peaches:
Check out my 9:29 …………. and what do you think of President Adams’ prophetic words.
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
6:42 pm
News article:
“10 Percent of U.S. Mosques Preach Jihad, FBI Estimates ……………. “
Common Sense
November 10th, 2009
6:54 pm
Two Points:
#1 Headline: “Attorney General Eric Holder will deliver a keynote speech at a gathering that includes an Islamic group linked to a Muslim terrorist organization.” It doesn’t get much worse than that. When I was a federal law enforcement officer is was against regulations to associate with known criminals.
#2 If Obama (as he said today) really can’t understand why the Ft. Hood terrorist did what he did, then he has no chance of understanding what’s really going on in the Islamic world …. and he is our president ?
R Cagle
November 10th, 2009
7:51 pm
The cool calculator with no conscience occupying the White House spews similar tripe, but he has an agenda and will say whatever it takes to achieve it. On the other hand, Ms. Tucker, you apparently believe the nonsense you write. Which is the bigger threat to our country, the one with the agenda, or the fool helping him to further it?
El Jefe
November 10th, 2009
11:39 pm
We judge the world by what we see, hear and learn. When radicals commit terrible crimes and acts of terrorism and NO ONE speaks against the crime, are we learning all the truth?
On one hand I see many Muslims committing acts of violence. From the DC shooter to the Ft.Hood shooter. I read about a cleric that calls the Ft. Hood shooter and “Officer and a gentleman”.
The AJC never prints stories about local “good” Muslims or clerics that embrace their religion.
The media only shows the ugly side is Islam.
Of course, the media does all it can to trash any religion or faith.
The media has no morals or ethics, except that God fearing people are either ignorant or crazy.
Hey, AJC – Thanks for nothing.
Drew
November 11th, 2009
3:28 pm
Hate to say this but…you’re wrong. I lived in the Middle East. My father did business with Egyptians, Saudis, Iraquis, Iranians, all of the ME countries. He dealt with Kings, Princes, Sultans, Presidents down to used car dealers ( Ford) and he told me one day (over drinks) that the people of the Middle East were wonderful people with only one flaw…Religion. Muslims (Islam) was the reason that they have fought and killed each other and anyone and everyone who didn’t adhere to the Koran and the Muslim faith. This sadly, is the truth and this is why we and they will NEVER be on peaceful terms with each other. We are infidels and they are Muslims who must wipe the face of the earth of all infidels. Stop buying their oils and they will go back to killing themselves and tribal lifestyle. Sorry…but it’s true.
Ian Mason
November 16th, 2009
12:33 am
Cynthia,
Again and again we say that Islam is a religion of peace. Really? I see a religion permitting female genital mutilation, Capital punishment for adultery, No rights for women citizens, Censorship or worse for those that question religious dogma, and a brutal doctrine that is set against the backdrop of war and a theocracy. Muhammad was a soldier and governing ruler, Jesus was not.
Like it or not Christians and Jews are considered the descendants of Apes and Pigs because of an influential 9th century Islamic writer. While the rest of the world is trying to solve problems with economies and health care reform there world is busying loping off hands and funding Hamas. Jumping to conclusions is one thing but completely ignoring the facts at hand is another.
Why not ask Salman Rushdie at Emory how peaceful Islam really is?