A referendum on Obama? Not likely
Around the country, Republican strategists are doing a victory dance over an easy victory in Virginia’s gubernatorial race — as well as down-ballot wins in Old Dominion — and a more surprising win in New Jersey’s gubernatorial election. Last night, U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, House Minority Whip, was relentlessly on message: A referendum on Obama! Voters don’t like Obama’s policies! A referendum on Obama!
Yesterday’s elections were no such thing. According to exit polls, President Obama still has approval ratings in the high 50s in New Jersey, where voters nevertheless threw out the Democratic incumbent, Jon Corzine. In Virginia, the Democrat Creigh Deeds, a very weak candidate, had run away from Obama himself — a stance that made the White House less than enthusiastic in its support of him.
If Republicans want to fool themselves into thinking their troubles are over, they should pay more attention to the upstate Congressional race in New York, where Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative Party candidate Douglas Hoffman. That was the race that pitted the hardliners like Sarah Palin and Dick Armey against a moderate Republican named Dede Scozzafava. After the hardliners went after Scozzafava, she dropped out and endorsed Owens.
Republican Hardliners seem energized to purge moderates from the GOP all over the country. We can already see where that will lead.
Of course, the Democrats need to worry about independents, who shifted toward the GOP in New Jersey and Virginia. If Democrats can get the economy back on track, they can lure independents back.
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Jimmy62
November 4th, 2009
11:35 am
Scozzafava is not a moderate Republican, she’s a Democrat who labels herself as Republican, as evidenced by her pulling out of the race and throwing her support (and money supplied by the GOP) to the Democrat candidate.
The governors are far more important than a tiny district who results are more due to their messed-up nomination process than anything else. Objectively, a whole lot more people voted for governor in N.J. and Virginia than voted for a House Rep in tiny NY-23.
blip
November 4th, 2009
11:53 am
Republicans won’t get the message from NY-23. I used to be a Republican until my fellow Republicans said I wasn’t enough of a Republican because I opposed the Iraq invasion. Then, they called me a “terrorist sympathizer” and a “RINO.” And, so, I became an independent.
The zealots think the party will flourish if it becomes more extreme. So they chase out the non-extremists… then, when they hear their fellow extremists barking back at them, the same stuff they heard on Glen Beck…. they, say, “See…. People are coming around to our way.” But really, they are just chasing everyone else away.
But moderates can win in places like New Jersey and Virginia.
Common Sense
November 4th, 2009
12:07 pm
Today is the one year anniversary of our current nightmare.
Yesterday’s Republican election victories only mean that the mainstream media will work even harder to get liberals elected in 2010 and Obama back in 2012.
Cynthia – keep “whistling in the dark”.
Carter is a Fool
November 4th, 2009
12:11 pm
I can tell you one thing – it is not good news for Presbo and the dimwhitocrats. We need the zealots from both the dimwhitocrats and religioncons to go to the back of the bus and SHUT UP.
We don’t need more taxes and more debt. We don’t need more restrictions on our lives. We don’t need to have to pass the abortion test in order to join a party. Get over these stupid narrow ideas. There is not a racist behind every corner as Cynthia thinks.
We are losing our culture, our way of life and our language at the alter of political correctness and Multiculturalism. We are AMERICANS. PERIOD. No Hyphens. We speak English. We enjoy freedom and rights provided by our constitution.
We embrace immigrants who come to this country for a better life (LEGALLY). We need to fix the legal process of immigration so that we can make it possible for legal immigration and protect ourselves from those who arrive illegally.
We need moderates who are capable of finding common ground to bring the country forward not extremists who will not listen to the other side (Queen Nancy, Prince Harry, Pompous Barney, Righteous Rush, Stupid Savage, etc.)
The NY 23rd is a step back for the Republicans. I am also an independent now as did not pass the abortion test, but I cannot stand the drunken spending habits of either party or the arrogance to create 2000 page bills that no one reads before votes are cast.
We have a lot to do to fix the country. We need to find what can agree on and work on this first.
bob
November 4th, 2009
12:12 pm
New Jersey means nothing, if it did, Obama would have spent some time trying to get the ex Goldman Sachs Billionaire re-elected !
Joan
November 4th, 2009
12:16 pm
The White House denying that New Jersey and Virginia means nothing is just so transparently laughable. Obama and ilk went there 5 TIMES. If it wasn’t important to them, then why were they wasting their time and our money? What these races say is that the tax and spend, and spend more than you can possibly cover for things most people don’t want, is just not acceptable to the majority of people. And if these races didn’t mean anything to Obama, well, maybe a few more will. Keep it up conservatives. You rock!
Carter is a Fool
November 4th, 2009
12:18 pm
Sam Nunn was not a dimwhitocrat. Neither was Scoop Jackson, JFK or Zell Miller. Carter was (also a fool). Pat Buchanan, Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberson are Religoncons. Joe Lieberman is one of the few that make an effort to use common sense and find a common ground. We need more Liebermans in Congress.
DBC
November 4th, 2009
12:33 pm
A referendum on Obama? For this voter it was and I happily reflected my opinion at the voting booth. I will give an elected politician of any political persuasion a chance to prove that they represent the interests of all American citizens. That means that all parties win a few and lose a few in Congress. But it has been a year and all I see for it is a deficit of un-fathomable proportion and the inability to focus on more than one priority. And healthcare is important, but my ability to work and feed my kids carries a lot more weight. I care about my kids and their future and will not blindly follow a party at my children’s expense. And for the Republicans out there that take comfort in my comments? You have a shot at doing something because others have not. Don’t take it for granted, or you will be on the unemployment line with the rest of us.
Jack
November 4th, 2009
12:41 pm
It IS a referendum on Obama. There’s no other sensible way to explain it.
Betsy
November 4th, 2009
12:51 pm
Head in the sand, Cynthia, head in the sand.
jconservative
November 4th, 2009
1:20 pm
The Virginia election for governor was won by the guy who ran the most moderate, to the center campaign, McDonnell. McD ran a campaign that did not mention a single “social conservative issue”. It was all jobs & the economy. If there is a lesson to be learned by Republicans from Virginia it is “run to the center and expand the size of the tent”.
It was also the 9th straight time the voters of Virginia voted for the candidate for Governor who was of the opposite party of the guy who just won the White House. Nine straight elections! The last time the White House was on the winning side was 1974, Jerry Ford president. (A lot of your folks were not even born). Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43 & Obama, all failed. So, in Virginia, this election was not about who was in the White House but just about the White House.
And New Jersey just did it for the 6th straight election.
Two states that hold their election for governor 12 months after the presidential election. And both are trending away from the winner of the White House, no matter who is sitting there.
Turd Feguson
November 4th, 2009
1:28 pm
Referendum? No. Something for the Dems to worry about? Yes. The economy will probably be back on track by 2012, however, thats no guarantee for Obobo.
Obobocare is now effectively dead. The blue-dawgs will, at the very least, take notice of NJ and VA. I would imagine there will be the few that will decidely back away from the OboboCare debacle, if not the majority. Why should they stick out their necks for Obobo? They certainly will not.
Obobo is facing uphill battles on every front due to numerous waffling and incorrect decisions. The days of grand speeches making everything all better are gone. Obobo best get a game plan and get moving or he may well find himself with the same outcome of the NJ/VA gubers.
Shawny
November 4th, 2009
1:31 pm
Not a referendum on Obama, huh. While I agree somewhat, you can’t argue the fact that a very blue state voted out a democrat that Obama had campaigned for FIVE TIMES.
Then you state that Obama had a 50%+ rating in NJ, but what I read from that is that just over half of the voters in a BLUE STATE approve of the president. Just over half, and in a BLUE STATE. hmmmmm.
No, it isn’t a referendum on Obama, but it is certainly a sign of life for the opposition party of the president.
What the people don’t want, and you and the libs that frequent these blog spaces don’t realize, is that most Americans distrust the govt’s ability to do anything correctly when it comes to spending money. They know that we have amassed almost a $12T debt. If they do the math, that is a million dollars per day in the red for 12M days. A million dollars per day for almost 33,000 years. wow! Talk about inefficient and wasteful living beyond our (govt) means. So, Americans want to tighten the belt, and along comes the current administration and congress that allows each and every bill to inflate beyond its usefulness via spending measures and we are supposed to trust the govt to do more. Pelosi said the H/C bill wouldn’t get beyond 900B, but it is now over 1.2T. Trust them, they say. NOT
Sunshine and Thunder
November 4th, 2009
1:57 pm
Not a referendum on Obama? Tell that to the blue dog dems who’ll now bury Obamacare to protect their seats.
sam
November 4th, 2009
2:00 pm
I know her and Dede S is what the moderate wing of Republican party used to be…socially liberal and fiscally conservative. obviously no room for that any more in the party, so they give up a seat that has been Republican held for 120 years give or take…talk about shooting yourselves in the foot.
Dick Hertz
November 4th, 2009
2:37 pm
If it was a referendum on Obama, there are two more Democrats in the House where they matter and two fewer Republicants.
The American right is continuing its headlong rush towards their fantasyland of white supremacy, totalitarian government with no accountability to the people, and the mandates of Christian jihadists becoming the law of the land. Welcome to Bushworld. Another 8 years of corruption and incompetence would be the end of this country; I hope Obama can pull us in another direction.
Joan
November 4th, 2009
2:50 pm
The headline of this article is only wishful thinking. McDonnell had it right. When the majority of Americans are primarily concerned about economics, you run on economics. All the rest of the so-called social platform is just social engineering, and should be outside the purview of Washington. A truly consistent conservative would say that it is the individual’s right and responsibility to decide whether to abort or to engage in gay sex–after all aren’t conservatives for individual rights?
Scott
November 4th, 2009
3:14 pm
Cynthia…DO SOME DAMN RESEARCH! Scozzafava was not a Moderate Republican. She was a DEMOCRAT. A Democrat down to the bone. Look at her voting record and her past. If you did ANY research into her, you would clearly see that. She was picked apart by the hardline Reps because they, like everybody else, knew that she was not a Republican at all and would not have come close to winning that election. Keep thinking that next year is going to be like last year. I hate to tell you but all of the people who came out to cast a vote for the American Idol candidate Obama last year will not be coming out next year. The Dems are going to lose ALOT of seats in the House and Senate. That is a guarantee especially when the country will still be at 10% unemployment and Congress will be celebrating their tax increases associated with Healthcare reform and Cap and Trade laws. Of course, after they realize Americans don’t want the crap they are peddling, they will try to spin it against the Reps. Probably even go as far as to claim that the Reps were the ones who proposed the legislation.
William
November 4th, 2009
3:23 pm
That is not true that it is not about a A referendum on Obama…at least not for CNN. CNN started talking this crap early in the election day before any exit polls. CNN defended their Messiah to the very end…just like Cynthia.
Well, guess what? Rush Limbaugh thinks it was a referendum on Obama and so do I. Really now! Healthcare legislation when there are not jobs? Is that sound leadership? If I do not have a job how can I pay for healthcare?
Soon the racial slurs by a bigoted Atlanta will spill out soon against Norwood. There is no stopping it. The bigots in Atlanta have survived that way for decades and it is not going to stop–not while jessie jackson and al sharpton gets tv time.
The gays in Maine! The gays across America. They want their behavior to be accepted as normal! It is not! Never will be! You might pass laws and hate crimes but it will never be accepted as “normal” in a Christain America. Well you can ask a muslim if it is normal for that matter.
ctucker
November 4th, 2009
3:23 pm
Scott,
I take Scozzafava at her word. She called herself a Republican and was nominated by the local Republican establishment.
William
November 4th, 2009
3:31 pm
I believe Scozzafava was a wolf in sheep clothing. That is what I have stated about many republicans. They were liberals disguising themselves as conservatives to win offices. They were successful! The conservatives got blind sided. Atlas, awakened the sleeping giant. There is change in the air to save America and it smells like conservatism.
sam
November 4th, 2009
4:08 pm
smells more like desparation..
fred
November 4th, 2009
4:12 pm
Funny. A Republican soundly beat an incumbent governor with lots of cash in a Democrat stronghold with both Obama and Biden pitching in to help. In NY23 Hoffman had the National Republican Congressional Committee, Newt Gingrich and a whole host of GOP brass fighting AGAINST him and he only lost by a slim margin. A referendum on Obama? Yes, and also on the direction that the Democrat party is dragging this country. It’s a great time to be a Conservative.
sam
November 4th, 2009
4:19 pm
denial is not just a river that runs through new jersey and virginia
sam
November 4th, 2009
4:24 pm
a democratic stronghold? if you knew anything about NJ, you’d know that the governorship has been back and forth between the parties for the past 25 years…but dont let facts get in the way of your denial. it is indeed a great time to be a conservative, if you find any real ones let me know…every republican candidate is a conservative unless they win.
sam
November 4th, 2009
4:25 pm
same goes for virginia by the way
jconservative
November 4th, 2009
4:33 pm
For the record in case you did not know & I did not.
Dede Scozzafava – Republican member of the NY State Assembly, 122nd Assembly District, since 1998 & continues in the office. She is the ranking minority member on three Assembly committees. Prior to the Assembly she was mayor of Gouverneur, NY from 1993 to 1998.
Pro-choice, anti gun-control, anti-cap & trade, pro Bush tax cuts being permanent, endorsed by NY teachers union & endosed by NRA.
(Really hard to put a label on her – she is all over the place.)
Tom Middleton
November 4th, 2009
4:37 pm
If you believe the exit polls, the races in New Jersey and Virginia were about weak Democratic candidates, not President Obama. Like you said, he continues to enjoy highly favorable ratings, much the same way Ronald Reagan did during his “Teflon Presidency.”
And while Reagan could be bipartisan on occasion, President Obama is more bipartisan by far in both attitude and attempts at bipartisanship, so what’s the problem?
I think having a modern-day “loyal opposition” hell-bent on destroying his presidency has everything to do with it, and I’m glad to see the defeat of the far-right’s poster candidate for the conservative cause. (Sorry all you Dick Army brats.)
But while the conservatives have no interest in seeing him succeed, the liberals think they own him, and this is hurting his ability to get things done as well.
There’s a reason why we keep seeing a continual cycle of left-right-left in power, and that’s neither side is complete and worthy of our keeping them in office indefinitely.
Both sides tend to become self-serving and ultimately self-defeating, as we’ve seen over the past several decades. They hang onto principles that can’t do what was promised, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and ultimately elevate their means-to-an-end philosophies to ends in themselves. (This, of course, includes the tea partiers – a bunch of low-tide political buffoons masquerading as Founding-Father patriots.)
My point is this, Cynthia: We finally get a president who understands these things, recognize what he’s trying to do and applaud him, but can’t understand why the individual members of Congress aren’t getting it as well. Unfortunately, we’re not quite sure what to do about it yet, but our jumping from political extreme to political extreme is destroying us, not helping us grow stronger, and we know it!
Here’s an idea: What if we continue supporting the president’s attempts at bipartisanship and then supporting those congressional members who support him as well. (And I’m not talking about the Republicans using bipartisanship as a stall-and-defeat tactic.)
But do you then think we could finally get that highly elusive calm Washington he promised and that “We the People” keep saying we want? And isn’t it true that then, and only then, will we be able to get that stable, balanced course forward that most of us keep praying for but never think we’ll see?
In our American democracy, all political power comes from the American people themselves, and maybe we’re the ones who need to finally fix our political system, not our leaders. It’s starting to look like they’ll never be able to do anything, anymore without our
taking the lead first.
This could be our second American Revolution, Cynthia. The first was when our Founders gave us our ingenious open-ended political system that’s survived to this day. This second will be when “We The People” take absolute control of it – until that very last second of time!
P.S. Say goodbye, lobbyists. It’s time for you to go fishing once and for all.
Jeff
November 4th, 2009
4:46 pm
Of course, Cyndy, of course. To think this had nothing to do with Obama’s policies is delusional. It’s just the first salvo. Keep drinking the kool-aid. All shall be perfectly clear this time next year.
Shananeeeeee Fananeeeeeeee
November 4th, 2009
5:10 pm
It looks like the people that voted for Obama strictly because of his race didn’t show up on Tuesday.
Tom Middleton
November 4th, 2009
6:33 pm
Go, Dick Armey, go…home, and take your quitter-governor Palin with you. In case you weren’t paying attention, you just lost New York’s 23rd, a district securely in Republican hands since the 19th century. If you can’t win that one, sir….oh, never mind. You wouldn’t understand it anyway. lol
F. Sinkwich
November 4th, 2009
6:42 pm
I just heard there is a rally scheduled at the US Capital tomorrow at noon to protest Chairman O’s takeover of healthcare. John Voight and other luminaries are scheduled to speak to the attendees.
I know all of you will be shocked, but I didn’t learn this from the AJC.
Nor will I read about the event there afterward either.
But I imagine if it was a rally in support of this socialism it would be an AJC.com banner headline.
But we all knew that.
F. Sinkwich
November 4th, 2009
6:46 pm
Uh, Tom.
Chairman O won this district by five points last year. Please explain how it’s been a “district securely in Republican hands since the 19th century.”
Oh, you’re a moonbat. Nevermind.
Tom Middleton
November 4th, 2009
7:02 pm
F. Sinkwich
I thought I told you to get yourself to rehab ASAP. Have you given up wanting a better life for yourself? Oh, nevermind, F…lol
Tom Middleton
November 4th, 2009
7:23 pm
F. Sinkwich
You live-and-let-live libertarians are laughable, F. Your “live” seems to work OK, but your “let live” is the worst in any political philosophy anywhere.
You need to get your heads out of Ron Paul’s hind quarters and come on up to real representative government where you belong. Our way works, F. Clearly your way doesn’t, or you’d be a whole lot smarter than you are on this blog. Rehab, F. Rehab. You can do it, little buddy!
F. Sinkwich
November 4th, 2009
7:28 pm
Ron who?
Socialism works in America, is that what you’re saying? “My way” has worked for 200-plus years.
Thanks for asking.
Tom Middleton
November 4th, 2009
8:56 pm
F. Sinkwich
When you get out of rehab, F, we can try discussing reality again. Don’t you get tired of getting smacked down by everyone on this blog?
Dude, I’m starting to feel really, really bad for you, and I don’t want to do it anymore. But please go to rehab and do something about yourself. YES YOU CAN become better. If no one else will, I’ll believe in you, OK? But please at least try. C-ya…
whatever
November 4th, 2009
10:33 pm
As usual, Cynthia – you allow your all so blind allegiance to a man – solely based on his skin color – to continually show your biasness when it comes to thinking (if you can call it that at all) objectively. Of course you can’t see it. It’s like the person with a drinking problem who continues to deny that he/she is an alcoholic. Wake-up and smell the coffee – but you can’t. You are as bigoted as any Klan member ever was. One day – when this Grand Illusion and Facade that Obama displays – finally melts away – you, along with many others, will set back in stunned moment and wonder what the heck happened. But unfortunately, by then, it will be too late. Get over the hidden racism and gain some objectivety before it is too late.
Give Life a Chance
November 4th, 2009
10:41 pm
I can’t believe that there are some true idiots out there that really believes that Obama is more bipartisan “by far in both attitude and attempts”. Are you guys really that illiterate?? Obama is more partisan than Nixon ever was. You guys have drank so much of the kool-aide that you are about to drown. Obama is treating us like the boiled frog theory – try throwing a frog in very hot water and it will jump out – but put the frog in nice comfortable water – where the frog feels good and safe – and then sloooowwwwllyyy turn up the heat – the frog will stay in the water until it is cooked. THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY – but many of you are too dumb to see it.
kayaker 71
November 4th, 2009
11:03 pm
Two things in yesterday’s vote are bellwheather events for 2010.
l. The majority of independents who voted for Bozo in 2008 either didn’t show up to vote yesterday or changed their candidate. These people win elections and they don’t seem to be too happy.
2. Bozo campaigned actively in NJ and Virginia for losing Democratic candidates. When those running for office realize that Bozo’s endorsement may tend to lose them support from the electorate, they will begin to shun his support and go it alone just as Repub candidates declined support from Bush when it became apparent that Bush’s endorsement could very well hurt rather than help. When this happens, it will become even more apparent that Bozo’s star has faded. Politicians have little loyalty to anyone or anything that would lose them an election.
Stay tuned….. this will only get better.
deborahinAthens
November 5th, 2009
7:13 am
The labels, the labels! Democrat, Republican, not Republican enough…what a bunch of stupid people. I am a lifelong Republican (voted for Nixon twice, voted for Reagan twice) who is a fiscal conservative but a social liberal. I believe in separation of church and state. The schools in Georgia are a joke because the ruling Repugs don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe in education, slice and dice the school budget while spending millions on fishing. I believe in a woman’s right to choose. I believe in the right to access birth control. Right now the Catholic Church is flooding Congress with demands to leave birth control out of the health care bills being tossed about and the lawmakers give them the ear instead of the boot. Republicans don’t want anyone to be able to buy liquor and wine on Sunday. Why? What rational reason could there be for that? I hated that Dubya subverted the Constitution. The Repugs stand for warrantless wiretaps on American citizens, they stand for illegal search and seizure, they stand for extraordinary rendition. They believe in holding people for years without a fair trial because they have no evidence to bring them to trial. They believe in removing every roadblock to unbridled greed that has resulted in the total destruction of our capitalist system. They foment an “US” against “THEM” mentality that is ripping this country apart. There is a way of thinking in the Republican Party that makes me ill, and I refuse to continue to vote for the idiots, just in a hope that I could see some change for the good of this country I voted for Obama. I have to say I haven’t seen much change, but how can we when the idiots in Washington find it more important to thwart the law making process for their own agenda. I will never, ever vote for the party of Palin who tried to get a brain-dead puppet (Hoffman) elected in NY over a moderate woman, who, by the way WAS a Republican.
Bob
November 5th, 2009
7:51 am
deborahinathens, If repugs as you state, do not believe in education, why do so many GA schools that are in heavily repub areas have a higher than national average SATs ? The AJC ran a list if those schools and many were in Fulton County, the repub controlled part. The heavy dem areas had no schools with an average higher than the national average, why is it that your education dems run failing schools. Your ignorance truly shows when you coddle Obama by blaming repubs, Obama does not need one repub vote to screw the country, he has plenty of dems willing and able. Your lady in NY was for card check, stimulis and public option, and you have no clue about Hoffman.
Scott
November 5th, 2009
8:43 am
Cynbthia….You can take her for her word, but her actions in the past clearly showed she was anything BUT a Republican. Therefore, you use the results in NY to show that America still has faith in this “Hope” crap that Obama spewed at us while 2 much much larger populations clearly think otherwise.
Just a thought
November 5th, 2009
9:00 am
CT, “I take Scozzafava at her word. She called herself a Republican and was nominated by the local Republican establishment.”
Now, now . . I told you it doesn’t matter what a person calls themselves! They will do whatever it takes to get elected. The real key to what they are is when they open their mouth!
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November 5th, 2009
9:18 am
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Johnski
November 5th, 2009
9:24 am
I’m glad Ms. Tucker’s fax machine is working and she got Mr. Axleord’s talking points. Well done. Of course the only race that matters is the one Dems won. I think the GOP will gladly trade two important state’s Governors for one house seat. Oh, and let’s also completely discount the independent’s swing to the right. Move along electorate, nothing to see here. Keep dreaming Ms. Tucker.
Rev Al Sharptongue
November 5th, 2009
10:24 am
To all of the rightwing nuts here, denial is not just a river in Egypt.
You people are obsolete, America is too diverse to go for a hard right nut case for president or anything else of consequence.
Only in backwood places like alabama and ms, and the rural areas of ga. will you find support for your ideas.
When the next election rolls around who will the gays,jews,muslims,catholics,asians,hispanics,and blacks vote for?
Certainly not some right wing zealot/traitor who does not undersand the true meaning of America, which is a melting pot not one big Saltine cracker
Chris Broe
November 5th, 2009
11:14 am
I agree with Tom Middleton: Bipartisanship is better than partisanship because it’s twice as good.
Betsy
November 5th, 2009
12:24 pm
deborahinathens: You may say the Republicans “foment an ‘US’ against ‘THEM’ mentality that is ripping this country apart.” You have done the same thing in your comment. Dems are no different, unless simply worse because they fail to see the attitude in themselves that they criticize others for having. Democrats in Congress are this very minute “ripping this country apart” by the most ugly words I’ve ever heard and some pretty awful actions, too.
Betsy
November 5th, 2009
12:26 pm
P.S. Why is a Democratic Congress listening to the Catholic Church instead of booting them out? What Church do you think the illegal immigrants belong to? Democrats want them under their thumb so they’ll vote for them, illegal or not. (And won’t that be the day, when people who aren’t even citizens are allowed to vote for U.S. officials?)
Another Independent Voter
November 6th, 2009
5:23 pm
I love it. Our fellow citizens calling themselves “conservatives” and “Republicans” that make these hateful, spiteful comments just play into the President’s hands. I will not give Republicans my vote gain until they drop the crazies.
President Palin? Really? It’s not going to happen. People vote authenticity. Bush seemed (to many at the times, yes big mistake) more real than Gore or Kerry. Then came Obama and he’s turned on the nutjob switch in the Republican Party on Self-Destruct and there y’all go on your way to over the cliff in 2012.
As soon as “Obamacare” passes, and it will pass, 2012 will be done.You republicans are making a big mistake on this issue. All Republicans have left to offer is stuff like tea bags, “Obobo”, more tax cuts for the rich (”deficient don’t matter” is what Cheney said and y’all cheered) and cheerleading any and evry bit of bad news for this country. I will Never vote for people who do that.
WE SEE THE MESS!!
“Obobo” DID NOT MAKE THAT MESS. Republicans were given all the power and blew it.We hired him to clean up your mess. You are only fooling yourselves with trying to shift the blame. You are worse than the spineless Democrats in Congress who apparently are scared of y’all and not of us.
dave
November 8th, 2009
9:50 pm
The election results are clearly a sobering wake-up call. Perhaps the administration will start to actually listen to citizens and even taxpayers.