U.S. Chamber of Commerce is old-think

The White House has pushed back against the well-known pro-business, pro-Republican lobby, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and the yelling and whining from the Chamber can be heard well outside the Beltway. The Chamber has engaged its supporters, including Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), to denounce President Obama for Nixonian tactics that include making an enemies list.

Now, the Chamber is claiming that Obama’s tactics have created a backlash that favors the business lobby. That’s unlikely. Because it has its head stuck in the 20th century, the chamber is creating its own problems, losing members like Apple that are more forward thinking. Some progressive business groups were tired of the Chamber’s denial on climage change and its opposition to health care reform.

And Obama is absolutely right to go after the Chamber — hard. The organization has stood against most progressive-minded, pro-consumer reforms for decades. Though it claims to be non-partisan, it is a pro-Republican lobby.

(Tom) Donohue insists the Chamber isn’t simply pro-Republican. Indeed, it does support some pro-business Democrats and Democratic issues. But the vast majority of its money goes to lobbying for positions supported by Republicans — and to ads that directly or indirectly help Republicans.

Tom Donohue, who heads the group, finds himself in an unusual position because even President Clinton tended to tread carefully around the huge lobby. But it’s a new day. And the Chamber deserves hardball opposition from the White House.

31 comments Add your comment

TnGelding

October 26th, 2009
8:59 am

No doubt we humans have defiled the Earth, but Mother Nature plays a much larger role in climate change than we do. The Chamber should be leading the charge for health care reform. We need to get that tremendous cost off of businesses and on the consumers. The entire cost of FICA needs to be shifted to the worker over 7 years to make U.S. corporations more competitive in the global marketplace, as well.

As for the dispute with the WH, I’d say it was about time someone challenged their objectives and relevancy. Do they really have what’s best for the country at heart?

Call it like it is.

October 26th, 2009
9:01 am

Obam good, Everybody else bad……….. Does that sum it up Cindy?

bob

October 26th, 2009
9:02 am

The chamber does not have a clue about business. The fact of the matter is anyone can open up and run a business. Obama has their number because he has opened and run so many businesses that he has forgotten the names of most of them. If all the businesses that have been founded by the likes of Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the dem congress, pulled out of the chamber, the chamber would fold. Not only has Obama founded all these companies, he provides a living wage to all as well as many other benefits. Cynthia is right, lets stop listening to these backwords groups like the Chamber of Commerce and start following the forword thinking employers like we have in dem leadership.

someguy

October 26th, 2009
9:12 am

Obama is the child like President that calls you a “big dummy head” if you disagree with him and do not allow him to what ever he wants to do. Then he goes uses the legions of his “myspace” friends to demagogue you like Cynthia Tucker because he can not take you on with the facts because he knows he will not win.

Otto Orange

October 26th, 2009
9:20 am

Cynthia:
By your definition, any organization that does not kiss Obama’s butt is “old-think.”

TnGelding

October 26th, 2009
9:22 am

bob

October 26th, 2009
9:02 am

Great stuff!

someguy

October 26th, 2009
9:12 am

Obo just ain’t gonna role over and play dead like so many Dems have in the past. Bring it on!

TnGelding

October 26th, 2009
9:23 am

Roll over, Beethoven.

redhat

October 26th, 2009
9:57 am

yes they are old-think. Obama our dear leader is new-think. wonderful-think. Chamber Of Commerce only wants profits for its members. bad-think!! Obama only wants to take care of us all!! progressive-think!!

jconservative

October 26th, 2009
10:10 am

Yeah a significant portion of the national business community has by-passed the Chamber to support several issues. This also happened during the Bush administration. There was a time when the Chamber could count on strong support from membership. No longer. The business climate has changed & the Chamber has not changed with it.
And, in particular, some of the businesses that are in a “boom” period are deserting the Chamber.

Self-interest always wins out.

Jimmy62

October 26th, 2009
10:18 am

Every major technological advance and advance in life expectancy came about due to free market capitalism and innovation. I don’t know why Cynthia is so excited to end that? I guess she wants to make sure that only the rich can enjoy the best and the rest of us can die off. Because that’s the logical conclusion to killing innovation by putting the government in charge of everything. Historically people tend to die in the multi-millions when that happens.

TnGelding

October 26th, 2009
10:24 am

jconservative

October 26th, 2009
10:10 am

Very astute.

Jimmy62

October 26th, 2009
10:18 am

Much of it was government funded.

booger

October 26th, 2009
10:24 am

….and Obama is right to go after them—hard. So since when did it become the President’s job to go after anyone? And your primary reason for doing so? They are pro republican.

So this is now the American way. If any person or group is pro republican, they must be stopped. Freedom of speech be damned, these people don’t think like I do so they must be stopped!

Turd Ferguson

October 26th, 2009
10:37 am

“…tired of the Chamber’s denial on climage change…”

We Reps do not deny the existence of this climate change boogy-man as one cant deny what doesnt exist.

This “progressive” think is nothing more than “socialists” think and since Obobo has taken the reins of the Presidency Ms Tucker is much less covert with her Anti-U.S. speak.

Cynthia…saw ya on George Steph-O yesterday. Very easy on the eyes!

Tom Middleton

October 26th, 2009
11:44 am

Cynthia, the only “enemies list” there is, is the one listing the Republican members of the House and Senate. And it’s not President Obama that concocted it, but those members themselves. Obama still wants a bipartisan government, and stating the obvious is not wrong.

Hey, but it’s a good way for Lamar Alexander to pretend to finally be a leader in the party of paranoids and get his name in the news for the first time in a while. Maybe we can look forward to his running for president yet another time again….and losing like always!

DirtyDawg

October 26th, 2009
11:45 am

I wouldn’t necessarily describe the U.S. C of C as ‘Old School’ unless by that you mean that they follow the Al Capp/Little Abner philosophy of ‘What’s good for General Bullmoose is good for the USA’. In other words it doesn’t matter if Corporate American is taking advantage of the American public – jobs, pay and benefits don’t matter, except as an expense item that has to be reduced in order to produce a return to shareholders – and top management and other institutions are the biggest shareholders, by the way.

Will never forget a time when I was ‘volunteering’ to help Junior Achievement…a question they asked us was ‘What’s the preferred way for companies to charge for their services?’ The answer was at the core of ‘The American Way’ – not ‘factor in costs/overhead/profit and set the price’…not ‘determine how much your competitors are charging and set yours…but ‘charge as much as people are willing to pay and keep charging it for as long as they’ll keep paying it.’ You see to the CofC everything is a market – from birth to death and even after. The concept of ‘contributing to the community’ only matters if there’s a profit to be made on it.

Chris Broe

October 26th, 2009
12:16 pm

The disinterred, cemetary group-think of the conservative right will be the quote balloons of their own eulogy. They make a great noise, this fury of fools, signifying nothing, escaping logic, indulging their inner child, (sorry), and in general acting like a bunch of bitter, disenfranchised rebels without a contituency or a coherent cause……

CNN: Saucer Mom: “The flying saucer balloon thing was a hoax. Sorry. Nevermind. Is there a gag-reset button?

How about a gag reflex button?

The Saucer Mom indeed.

Joan

October 26th, 2009
12:38 pm

I guess it is “old think” to ask what things cost, and how they are going to be paid for. That seems to sum up your dislike of the Chamber. About health care reform–which is going to raise our debt and taxes sky high–why don’t more of you want and fight for, tort reform so doctors don’t have to pay $250,000 per year for insurance against frivolous suits, or interstate competition among insurance companies. These things would do more to reform health costs than anything proposed by Congress to date.

Shananeeeeee Fananeeeeeeee

October 26th, 2009
12:55 pm

Obama is as corrupt as they come and his sheep made a big mistake voting for the man who promised so much and has delivered so little. He should Shut up about Fox, keep off Leno, and get to work. This guy needs to watch his campaign speeches and it might refresh his memory of the promises he made. On a current issue I am still waiting for the President’s table meetings about healthcare that were going to be televised on CSPAN. I’m still waiting sir, waiting with anticipation. Change in 2010 and 2012, Change we are looking forward to.

citizen

October 26th, 2009
1:00 pm

I’m pro-business but anti COC after it was disclosed that Mr. Josten is fighting hard against any regulations of OTC derivatives which is traded with no oversight.
I’m beginning to think Wall Street is a ’shell game’ and they are being fed by our 401(k)’s, government pensions etc. What has been perpetrated against the average law abiding American is just so distasteful to accept. With the emerging economies in China, India, Brazil and Turkey, the US dollar may lose the viability as the currency for global trade. The unregulated investment tools will leave a lot of victims in the wake; even in the ‘Bernie Madoff’ scam, some investors gained because the scam was gamed from the beginning.

Shawny

October 26th, 2009
1:01 pm

Questioning the ‘consensus’ on the climate is good.
Supporting business, which supports jobs, is good.
So, no, Cynthia, Obama should not go after this organization. It seems that lately, Obama is going after anyone that his ’side’ doesn’t agree with. He would make a great dictator, don’t you think?

Chris

October 26th, 2009
4:05 pm

One point that you fail to mention about Apple dropping out of the Chamber is that our “wonderful” Ex. (Thank God) VP Al Gore is on the Board of Directors. Gee I wonder why the dropped out.

Shari

October 26th, 2009
7:49 pm

The Government is not beholden to lobbyists, remember that folks. U.S. Chamber of Commerce spends more on lobbying than any other group so I am sure they are a little miffed when the government isn’t bowing down to them. We’ve seen capitalism run amuck and frankly it is affecting real people and I for one am a little sick of the lobbyists running the show.

TnGelding

October 26th, 2009
8:31 pm

Tom Middleton

October 26th, 2009
11:44 am

Alexander is not your run of the mill politician.

TnGelding

October 26th, 2009
8:34 pm

Chris

October 26th, 2009
4:05 pm

Just close your eyes and consider the possibilities if Mr. Gore had been sworn in as our duly elected 43rd president. Would 09/11 have happened? Would we have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan? Would we be in a worldwide recession?

George C. Wilson

October 27th, 2009
12:36 pm

What we need is another “chamber of Commerce” with progressive values and outlook on issues.A little competition would help.As a business man I agree 100% with C. Tucker.Also the chamber of commerce has too much power over the state government in Georgia.

Jack C Sloan

October 27th, 2009
4:35 pm

I never cease to be amazed at the stupidity of Ms Tucker. Forsward think companies like Apple resign – how about the six new companies that joined due to the White House actions. Ms Tucker should get outside of the beltway of Atlanta and see how the remainder of Georgia and the USA thinks!

Eric von Stromheim

October 27th, 2009
8:49 pm

I see your point and I see how it should be corrected and people are being wronged! Thank you for standing up for the people who are knocked down, Cyth.

We must not allow this to continue. We must organize a 100 man march to show the world that we won’t take this anymore. I can get my neighbor, his kids, his cousin and a couple of friends, that’s about 10. Anyone else care to chip in on the march?

Jack K. Cooke

October 27th, 2009
9:47 pm

I learned something interesting this weekend.

Did you know that New Balance sneakers are owned and manufactured in the old US of A. Did you also know that Nike and Apple (two firms that have exited the Chamber) have nearly 100% of their manufacturing in China? How might you think a lopsided Cap and Trade legislation that heavily favors the “developing” Chinese will have on a business such as New Balance that struggles to keep manufacturing jobs in the old US of A? Should the Chamber represent American manufacturers and American jobs against the Obama Administration’s pro Chinese (scared to death of them) policies? As a matter of fact – shame on Apple and Nike for not being a better corporate citizen and keeping a token presence of manufacturing in the old US of A.

David from WI

October 28th, 2009
6:22 am

I know lets have you and Obama tell us what NEW THINK we should have.

Oh God could this get any more stereotypical?
The left are loosing their minds and don’t even know it. Then again that is not that uncommon for someone who is delusional.

Oh lets bash whole foods now.. Oh wait the far left are.
lets start a class war. opps check
Lets heat up race relations to a low not felt in decated .. done that.

Couldn’t be the far left has a hand in not knowing what they are doing and have made things WORSE FOR A LONG LONG TIME but think they are helping???

No that would ‘never’ happen no their is NO evidence for that.

It is time to loudly and publicly call Americans racist or having the atty gen say Americans cowards?

No, the far left only make things better.

Time for another kegger at the white house to help race relations?

WAKE UP CYNTHIA the far left are a BIG PART OF THE PROBEM and have been so for a while now!!!!!!

Jessica

October 28th, 2009
1:04 pm

Cynthia, how much do you know about world history? Take a little time and educate yourself about what happened in countries where the government tried to micromanage the economy, ran up excessive debt, attacked private industry or bought political loyalty by creating entitlements. Take a look at what happened when leaders created an “enemies list” or limited free speech.
If you actually care about facts and not just ideology, start by reading about political history of 20th century Latin America. The views you promote would increase poverty, undermine the rule of law and destroy personal liberty. Your progressive goals are based on unproven utopian fairy tales. History says that they don’t work.

Chester Felds

October 30th, 2009
7:08 pm

I take offense to Jessica’s remarks. This assumes that Cyth has studied history. How we know what she studied? You’re making assumptions and we just can’t allow you to make such remarks. If you make such remarks, next someone will call into question her fashion style, or lack of, and that would be even worse. Or her hair.

Then where would be be? With one poorly dressed left liberal with a bad hair doo. Photoshop can only do so much. Ignore poverty, wars, economy, political cronies and a few other things and then tell me one bad thing about berrick obama! I dare you! Don’t worry, cyth.