Comments on: The Pentagon’s transformation on gay soldiers http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/ Political commentary from Pulitzer Prize winner Cynthia Tucker of The AJC Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:30:05 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bill http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7888 Bill Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:06:30 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7888 Like homosexuals formed the bulk of the Arabic speaking translators. Check to see how many interpreters and translators our military has altogether and then try to tell me the homosexual ones are being missed. Like homosexuals formed the bulk of the Arabic speaking translators. Check to see how many interpreters and translators our military has altogether and then try to tell me the homosexual ones are being missed.

]]> By: Pat http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7841 Pat Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:22:35 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7841 This debate ended days ago, but my two cents: Folks like Bill and Del have the mindset they do, and it won't change. The world has changed around them and passed them by, but they'll go to their graves unable to understand homosexuality as anything other than "deviant," "immorality," or "perversion." All scientific knowledge of how gay people's brains are wired differently won't matter. So why try to convince them, or continue to make a case? I will however, point out just one thing; despite Bill's insistence that the thousands of gays who serve now could all "vanish" and wouldn't be missed a bit - I respectfully disagree. I simply point to the period shortly before 9/11, when a number of gays who worked as military translators were discharged due to their homosexuality. Sadly for the USA, those dismissed were fluent in Arabic, and their dismissals left our intelligence forces deaf to much of the Internet chatter right before the terrorist attacks. In that case, discrimination cost this country a price far too high to pay. This debate ended days ago, but my two cents: Folks like Bill and Del have the mindset they do, and it won’t change. The world has changed around them and passed them by, but they’ll go to their graves unable to understand homosexuality as anything other than “deviant,” “immorality,” or “perversion.” All scientific knowledge of how gay people’s brains are wired differently won’t matter. So why try to convince them, or continue to make a case?
I will however, point out just one thing; despite Bill’s insistence that the thousands of gays who serve now could all “vanish” and wouldn’t be missed a bit – I respectfully disagree. I simply point to the period shortly before 9/11, when a number of gays who worked as military translators were discharged due to their homosexuality. Sadly for the USA, those dismissed were fluent in Arabic, and their dismissals left our intelligence forces deaf to much of the Internet chatter right before the terrorist attacks. In that case, discrimination cost this country a price far too high to pay.

]]> By: Bill http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7665 Bill Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:47:02 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7665 Only problem is your LGBT thing isn't about race. There's nothing wrong about being an ethnic minority. Homosexuality, on the other hand is...well...really disgusting, to put it mildly. Only problem is your LGBT thing isn’t about race. There’s nothing wrong about being an ethnic minority. Homosexuality, on the other hand is…well…really disgusting, to put it mildly.

]]> By: Dunwoody Mike http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7612 Dunwoody Mike Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:48:05 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7612 What is really disgusting here is that all of these arguments being used against LGBT floks gaining their civil rights are the SAME EXACT ones used during the Civil Rights struggle of the 1950's and 60's. It's amazing how bigotry does not change, isn't it? What is really disgusting here is that all of these arguments being used against LGBT floks gaining their civil rights are the SAME EXACT ones used during the Civil Rights struggle of the 1950’s and 60’s. It’s amazing how bigotry does not change, isn’t it?

]]> By: BoneHead http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7587 BoneHead Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:29:03 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7587 Who cares? You know here we go again, liberal left wanting to change everything for less that 5% of the population. When will the left understand that 95% of the people is the majority not the 5%.... Do they teach math in public schools any more? Who cares? You know here we go again, liberal left wanting to change everything for less that 5% of the population. When will the left understand that 95% of the people is the majority not the 5%…. Do they teach math in public schools any more?

]]> By: Bill http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7582 Bill Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:22:37 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7582 Yes, of course, Rand. Maintain whatever you please. It's not a problem to me. But 'genetic bias'? Imagine that, homosexuals blaming their unnatural sexual behavior on genetic transmission of a deleterious mutation. If that were so, the military would bar them from service on the basis of their inherited impairments. If only it were that easy. They could then be considered handicapped and thus unfit for the rigors of military service for that reason. The truth is much more complex. Their behavior stems from the desire to gratify themselves through a fascination with unwholesome practices. They may not have chosen the persecution that comes with the pursuit of their desires, but they did knowingly choose to indulge those desires in that particular way. Consequently, the desire to do what is unnatural quickly becomes addictive. It is the nature of addiction to deny that it is what it is. The social trend to legitimize depravity that we're now experiencing only serves to confuse the unwary and the impressionable and to make it easy for them to condone such behavior and to make such choices. Yes, of course, Rand. Maintain whatever you please. It’s not a problem to me. But ‘genetic bias’? Imagine that, homosexuals blaming their unnatural sexual behavior on genetic transmission of a deleterious mutation. If that were so, the military would bar them from service on the basis of their inherited impairments. If only it were that easy. They could then be considered handicapped and thus unfit for the rigors of military service for that reason. The truth is much more complex. Their behavior stems from the desire to gratify themselves through a fascination with unwholesome practices. They may not have chosen the persecution that comes with the pursuit of their desires, but they did knowingly choose to indulge those desires in that particular way. Consequently, the desire to do what is unnatural quickly becomes addictive. It is the nature of addiction to deny that it is what it is. The social trend to legitimize depravity that we’re now experiencing only serves to confuse the unwary and the impressionable and to make it easy for them to condone such behavior and to make such choices.

]]> By: Basics http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7573 Basics Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:33:38 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7573 When all the dust settles the only thing that matters is that marriage remains defined as "the act of joining man and woman..."!!! No PC re-defining of "marriage" in any dictionary or in legal terms SHOULD OR WILL EVER CHANGE the above definition!!! When all the dust settles the only thing that matters is that marriage remains defined as “the act of joining man and woman…”!!!

No PC re-defining of “marriage” in any dictionary or in legal terms SHOULD OR WILL EVER CHANGE the above definition!!!

]]> By: Kamchak http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7572 Kamchak Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:28:48 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7572 Tom Have you considered joining the discussion at Bookman's place? Tom

Have you considered joining the discussion at Bookman’s place?

]]> By: Kamchak http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7571 Kamchak Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:06:16 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7571 Tom :cool: Tom

:cool:

]]> By: Tom Middleton http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2009/10/09/the-pentagons-transformation-on-gay-soldiers/comment-page-3/#comment-7570 Tom Middleton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:01:51 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/?p=2378#comment-7570 Kamchak: Tell me Bill and Ben–when EXACTLY did you CHOOSE to be hetero-sexual? Absolute best comeback I’ve ever heard, Kam. So ask we all! :) Kamchak: Tell me Bill and Ben–when EXACTLY did you CHOOSE to be hetero-sexual?

Absolute best comeback I’ve ever heard, Kam. So ask we all! :)

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