Yes, we can (close Guantanamo)

One of the most principled stands that President Obama made during his campaign was his pledge to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, since its very existence violates cherished American ideals, chafes our allies and increases our alienation from much of the world. But his pledge to close the facility by Jan. 22, 2010,  has run into political and practical difficulties, and Obama hadn’t said much about it lately.

So I was heartened to hear the president reiterate the pledge during his speech Tuesday at the United Nations.

“On my first day in office, I prohibited — without exception or equivocation — the use of torture by the United States of America. I ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed, and we are doing the hard work of forging a framework to combat exremism within the rule of law. Every nation must know: America will live its values, and we will lead by example.”

The president’s prominent mention shows that, despite the political difficulties he has run into on a host of other issues, he’s still firm in his insistence that Guantanamo be closed. (He may not make his deadline, but the facility will close.)
Obama has apparently put a new team in charge of shepherding the politics and the process. That group will have to find a way to overcome not only foolishness from the GOP, which tries to gum up the works on every Obama initiative, but also spinelessness on the part of Democrats, some of whom insist that detainees cannot be kept on American soil. (We kept Timothy McVeigh locked up, didn’t we?)

Meanwhile, the tiny nation of Palau has agreed to take a group of Chinese Uighurs, Muslims who would face oppression, or worse, if they were returned home to China.

Guantanamo remains a serious blemish on U.S. ideals. The sooner it closes, the better.

42 comments Add your comment

Peadawg

September 25th, 2009
8:10 am

Yes we did(get Cynthia the heck out of Atlanta).

I thought you were against torture? Yet you keep putting blogs up on the ajc.

Buzz

September 25th, 2009
8:36 am

Yes We Can! (make America weak and vulnerable again to attack). I guess if we just ask them nicely they will happily tell us all about the plots to kill you and your family.

funnything

September 25th, 2009
8:59 am

Yes We Can…make bold statements to satisfy the weak minded leftists while actually doing nothing because we don’t have the leadership skills or spine to do something hard.

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
9:16 am

We will not close Guantanamo in the foreseeable future. Reason, no one wants the prisoners in a Federal Max Security facility in their state.
They are afraid. It is similar to nuclear power plants – most Americans are in favor of this energy resource – just not one anywhere near. They are afraid.

And a lot of countries want us to close Guantanamo – but they will not take any of the prisoners off our hands. So we will ignore them going forward.

Bottom line, Guantanamo stays open.

Donovan

September 25th, 2009
9:20 am

Here we go again with the advice from lunatics to close down Gitmo and to hear further adulation for one of the worse presidents since Jimmy Carter…The revolutionary patriots of this young nation never worried about what the world thought when they fought against wrongfulness and survival. They were clear of mind and focused on their mission rather than muddled with complexities of multiculturalism and diversity. When you have people running this country with ideas of closing penal institutions guarding the world’s most horrendous murderers, common sense tells you that there has come a time when the lunatics are now running the asylum. Comrade Tucker and associates are the problem and not the rememdy for our society’s ills. Timothy McVeigh was a perfect example of ridding society of its burden. He was captured, tried, and subsequently executed for his horrendous crime against humanity. The very idea that waterboarding is torture and the very idea that America is a bad player on the world scene is the fabrication of the bent ideology of Tucker and company. And to think that she gets paid for poisoning the well is ludicrous in itself.

David from WI

September 25th, 2009
9:29 am

Oh please, the blemish was created by the insane hysteria OVER the military prison in Cuba NOT the prison itself. It remains a clean, modern, military detention center. Even Castro had said he would return any person who escaped back to the United States. It remains the best place for a select job.

Don’t forget Bush was removing prisoners from Geitmo so Obama is ONCE AGAIN continuing the polices of George W. The list goes on.

1. patriot act is still in effect
2. Iraq war plan following Bush timetable
3. surveillance program expanded under Obama IE wiretapping etc…
4. CIA already halted weatherboarding under George W
5. Obama/Bush bailouts disaster and gives incentive to run up debts AGAIN to banks and insurance companies.
6. signing statements are still happening
7. CIA Renditions continue (Clinton policy that is still used. I guess its a war crime to use enhanced interrogation but sending prisoners to foreign countries to be ‘fully blown tortured’ is OK huh?)
8. out of control spending
9. lobbyist are still a huge influence
10. Illegal immigration policy continues
11. expanded and larger executive powers
12. ‘Transparency, He don’t need no stinkin’ transparency”

Oh yes sure he SAID he would close Guantanamo….. now …..well ….not so much. He has the best of intentions though? (Bush wanted to close the camp too but I guess that fact just slipped you memory) More of that 4th dimensional chess I suppose.

If so many of the Bush policies that had the far left SOOOOO furious are still in place why is it the far left are not just as angry at Obama? Ah, you guys voted for him, that’s it huh? That makes it somehow ‘better’ in you minds? I think I get it now, being progressive is a state of mind and reality hasn’t anything to do with it. Ah, that makes more sense. Its all how you ‘look’ at things. Sort of how drugs can make the world a better place even though its still a dirty, dangerous, stink hole its always been.

The biggest change I do see is that now Kadafi (is is a Q or K.. who cares), Castro And Chavez just LOVE the president.

oh joy

Joan

September 25th, 2009
9:34 am

If the AJC building is bombed, and because a prisoner was not sufficiently influenced to give up the plot, I would hope that you would go with it. There would definitely be a moral to the story in that. If someone is bad enough to be in GITMO, they are bad enough to stay in GITMO–or more to the point, just execute them all, and then close the prison. Save a lot of taxpayer money, and rid the world of some serious scum.

mike

September 25th, 2009
9:39 am

Tucker and the rest of the mindless partisans miss the point.

Does Cynthia think it is any more just to store untried terrorism suspects in Kansas than it is to store them in Gitmo? Why on earth does the geography matter?

mike

September 25th, 2009
9:40 am

David -

“If so many of the Bush policies that had the far left SOOOOO furious are still in place why is it the far left are not just as angry at Obama? ”

Because the anger was rooted in mindless and intolerant partisanship, not in any policies. The fact that Obama has gotten a complete pass from partisan hacks like Tucker is all the evidence you need.

David from WI

September 25th, 2009
9:42 am

Just to save bandwidth I’ll save the far lefties the hassle.

Obama inherited this mess, Bush is an idiot, Palin’s a twit, Cheney’s a war criminal, it takes time to roll back eight years of crap…excuses, excuses.
Oh yea, we are all a bunch of idiots for posting on this blog(that should save one post too)

I forgot….sorry… all of us who criticize the president are a bunch of racist, stupid, redneck, nazis. Don’t want to leave that one out do I?

Michael H. Smith

September 25th, 2009
9:42 am

The serious blemish on U.S. ideals is having thrown our friends and allies under the bus not in having thrown terrorists in a dentition center at Guantanamo.

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
9:49 am

Donovan September 25th, 2009 9:20 am
“…The revolutionary patriots of this young nation never worried about what the world thought when they fought against wrongfulness and survival.”

Actually you are incorrect with this statement. What the world thought
is the FIRST thing they thought about. From the 1st sentence in the Declaration of Independence “… a decent respect to the opinions of mankind…”. Then the first act after the Declaration was the appointment of Ben Franklin as ambassador to France.

Please read biographies of Adams, Franklin & Jefferson to get an understanding of the revolutionary period of American history.

Buzz

September 25th, 2009
9:51 am

Joan- I seriously doubt terrorists would target the AJC building any more than they would Al Jazeera…they consider them friends.

David from WI

September 25th, 2009
9:52 am

Forgot one… GW stopped the practice of tracking cookies on the govt sites used by the white house. Obama put em back.

I guess its OK if big brother is Obama.

“[We are] a nation of warriors and fanatics, marching forward in perfect unity, all thinking the same thoughts and shouting the same slogans, perpetually working, fighting, triumphing, persecuting—three hundred million people all with the same face [yes we can]”
taken from George Orwell’s 1984

jconservative

September 25th, 2009
9:54 am

Joan September 25th, 2009 9:34 am
“…If someone is bad enough to be in GITMO, they are bad enough to stay in GITMO–…”

Then please explain why President Bush freed a bunch of GITMO prisoners & sent them back home. Is it possible he thought they were not guilty of anything? Or do you believe Bush was bribed? There must be a reason for his action.

David from WI

September 25th, 2009
10:15 am

“It had become usual to give Napoleon the credit for every successful achievement and every stroke of good fortune. You would often hear one hen remark to another, ‘Under the guidance of our Leader, Comrade Napoleon, I have laid five eggs in six days’; or two cows, enjoying a drink at the pool, would exclaim, ‘Thanks to the leadership of Comrade Napoleon, how excellent this water tastes!’”
- George Orwell, Animal Farm

joe matarotz

September 25th, 2009
10:39 am

Obama:This is a job for Gitmo Czar!
Cynthis:But we don’t have a Gitmo Czar.
Obama:No problemo. I will simply appoint one. I don’t even have to ask Congress.
Cynthia:Good thing. Those meanies just try to mess you up.
Obama:Give me the ACORN personnel list so I can choose a suitable apparatchik.
Cynthia:Obama, you are the BEST!

Tune in tomorrow for another episode of “Closing Gitmo” or “See Cynthia Fawn”. Today’s episode has been brought to you by Democraps for Change.

booger

September 25th, 2009
11:18 am

Guantanamo is a piece of land with some buildings and structures on it. It has never harmed a soul. Any horrible things you think happened there was done by people who were following certain policies. You will stop all the horrible things from happening when you change these policies. There is no need to spend $100 million of taxpayers money to achieve this.

As far as the image to the rest of the world, it astounds me that some Americans are arrogant enough to think the world cares. I lived and worked in Europe for seven years in three different countries. I can tell you from experience, they do not spend a great deal of time thinking about what the US is doing. During Obama’s first announcement of the closing, I spoke to people in the UK and France. Neither had any idea what Guantanamo was. These were affluent, well educated people.

Leave the prisioners there, and change policies. Save the country $100 million dollars.

Zibby

September 25th, 2009
11:29 am

Hey Cynthia – you ready to put some of the Gitmo folks up at your house in DC? And if they don’t behave right you can withhold their cookies and milk before bedtime… that ought to straighten them right out…

You people – all of the clueless left wing nutcases – seem to think that just because PBO is around now that somehow the world loves us more and none of them would ever conspire to hurt anyone in this country ever again, much less try to blow anything up anymore….

Is it the grape or the cherry Kool Aid you’re drinking today?

Ivan

September 25th, 2009
11:30 am

David from WI

September 25th, 2009
11:48 am

Zibby you mean it doesn’t matter who occupies the white house or what our policies are?!?!? No it defies all -far left logic- that those that hate us do so because of what THEY think and not what the USA does?

I think the far left of this country would think it is, and was, about our country and not the terrorist and state sponsors, own fanatical world view. Oh no, you can’t be correct. It defies all far left logic.

Reality will agree with your statements.

Oh goodie, VP Biden is touring flooded areas GA and said “Katrina” a half dozen times in a few sentences and then said of all the help they are going to get (as they should). I ‘wonder’ what his political motives are using such language? Must be more of that ‘transparency’ I keep hearing about.

Betty

September 25th, 2009
11:49 am

Enter your comments hereI don’t agree with you this time. the people being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba should be charged and given a trial – if found not guilty they should be returned to their home country if found guilty they should serve their sentence at Guantanamo. But under no circumstances should they be removed to one of the 50 states

TheOne

September 25th, 2009
12:08 pm

Cynthia, thank you so much for not disappointing me. Your blind faith in Obama and the love affair you have with him continues to be strong. Once again, giving Obama a pass in the event that he misses his deadline. Anybody saying Gitmo could be closed in a year without thinking it through obviously pays too much attention to his TelePrompTer than to good old-fashioned common sense. Hmmm, nobody wants to take any of the prisoners??? Holy smokes, never even saw that one comin’!

I find your “selective” support of US ideals amusing, and downright silly. To say Gitmo is a serious blemish on US ideals, but at the same time to want to push through socialistic, goverment-run programs (despite the US ideal of capitalism), is ignorant at best.

godless heathen

September 25th, 2009
1:49 pm

The only thing keeping Obama from closing Gitmo is Obama.

Come all ye children

September 25th, 2009
1:57 pm

Barrack Hussein Obama loves me this I know, for HE tells me so, little children to him belong they are weak, but Barrak Hussein Obama is strong, yes Obama loves me, yes Obama loves me, yes Obama loves me, for the Barrack Hussein Obama tells me so.

Casey

September 25th, 2009
2:18 pm

Afraid of somebody escaping prison in the continental US? Jesus, this country is full of paranoid freaks.

Kevin

September 25th, 2009
2:39 pm

I don’t think it is a blemish on US ideals but than I don’t really care what the rest of the world thinks. If they are that critical of the US we could certainly see what State Dept aid we send that country and that savings could help Mr. Obama with his health care reform.

But I digress. Move the Guantanamo detainess to ALCATRAZ!! I am sure that all of the San Francisco liberals would have no objection to these poor detainees finding a home on the rock.

It wasn't me

September 25th, 2009
2:39 pm

Where are they going to go Cynthia?

How about you put them up at your crib?

These dangerous terrorists do not belong in the american prison system unless the are under 24 hour lockdown at the supermax in Colorado. As I understand, even that prison isn’t set up to deal with these kind of lunatics. Also, I don’t think they have room for them.

Given Cynthia’s previous comments, I suppose she would welcome them to the Atlanta Jail. After all….. These poor terrorists who would kill all of us in a microsecond deserve their “constitutional rights”.

Hmmmmmmmm. The judge in the Grady dialysis case ruled today that illegals don’t have the ability to file in our court system so the center will close tomorrow. I wonder how that ruling could affect the Gitmo situation.

What do the lawyers here think?

Me…… I vote to hang them all.

Call it Like It Is

September 25th, 2009
2:42 pm

WTF!

“Guantanamo remains a serious blemish on U.S. ideals. The sooner it closes, the better”.

Are u F kidding me?

These morons want to KILL AMERICANS! Lets all hold hands and blame America. You are unbelievable as this Racist Socialist is ruining our country, you of all people are showing compassion for TERRIORISTS!

When Barry is done with the finger pointing, someone will step up and actually Give A Damn about this country and tumb our noses at everyone else!

Enough Said!

It wasn't me

September 25th, 2009
2:48 pm

I’ve got a better idea.

Stick these terrorists in a plane and fly them back over their home countries. Blindfold them, give them a parachute and toss them out the door. If Allah is looking out for them then they’ll survive the fall.

Hopefully, they would get found by the police forces and sent to be interrogated the old-fashioned way. I’m sure waterboarding would seem like a picnic compared to what they do in Egypt, Jordan, Syria and especially Saudi Arabia.

And for icing on the cake….. Make sure these terrorist aholes KNOW where they’re being dropped into. Watch those freaks beg and cry to stay at Gitmo.

ck hall

September 25th, 2009
2:49 pm

What’s the big deal! I wish Obama could protect us and Eastern Europe with the missle defense system and stop fooling around with non-issues..
Just take a look at a map and realize Iran can now fire a missle directly at NYC and have nothing in front of the missle to deter it!!!!
What an idiot he is!! And it’s not because he’s Black–He is still on the job training..

Barackula

September 25th, 2009
2:53 pm

Notice how Cynthia doesn’t have anything to say in this blog?

Wow….. “Yes we can close Guantanamo” And this woman won a pulitzer? My cat has more common sense.

Her blog yesterday was the same thing. “Final thoughts on ACORN” with no thoughts.

I’m sorry……. I thought she might actually have something rolling around between her ears.

Kevin

September 25th, 2009
3:44 pm

Yes we can (ruin the nation)
Yes we did (elect a leader based on chants)
Yes we will (defeat him on the next go around)
Yes you’d better (enjoy it while you can because)
Yes you will (be sad)

JackLeg

September 25th, 2009
3:45 pm

I say we give them a free ride back to their home countries and let them out at 30,000 feet……

Chris Broe

September 25th, 2009
3:59 pm

…and Cynthia misused her parentheses.

The magical land that exists inside the brackets is not to be trifled with, Miss Cynthia. Look how Boob Barr used them today. Depravedly. He wastes them. He’s one of the leading menaces to parentheses.

I love the mysterious world in the parenthesis. Your best line can hide inside one ready to jump out and delight the reader. I dont think you can teach it. It’s instinctive, (but you can get lucky).

Technical aspects of writing aside, Ms Tucker is one of the few journalists living today that I would call a writer.

Simply the Truth

September 25th, 2009
4:20 pm

Enter your comments here Cynthia, Cynthia, Cynthia, methinks thou doth protest too much. Your topic today is old news. Your “hero” has not and will not clear out Gitmo anytime soon BECAUSE just like all political hacks, talk is cheap and so is he. Except when it comes to OPM (other peoples money)then the sky is the limit.

Chia Hair Plugs

September 25th, 2009
4:55 pm

I am glad Obozo is extending the Patriot act. Hopefully when his approval rate hits single digits, he will blame the press and hold Tucker and Bookman at Gitmo. YES WE CAN! Tucker and Bookman have done more damage to this country than Tim McVeigh.

Say What??

September 25th, 2009
5:22 pm

Sure, Cindy, go ahead and close Gitmo, but be sure to shut down ACORN while you’re at it. I mean, ACORN is more dangerous, wouldn’t you agree?

Jack

September 25th, 2009
6:22 pm

An obtuse provocateur is not necessarily a journalist.

barefoot girl sittin on the hood of a dodge

September 25th, 2009
6:22 pm

We praise you Ronnie Reagan, You made our country strong . We love you ronald Reagan, so we sing this song.You cut all our taxes- the middle class did rejoice- we really did not spend our time concerned, about a womans right to choice.

mmm mmm mmm

You backed the freedom fighters some details you forgot…we dont care we love you, and we say so what.

You beat Jimmy Carter-Told the poor they should work harder.

Some nut shot, and tried to kill you, but you had that Reagan luck. We all laughed and cried when you said”Hon, I forgot to duck”

Thank you for the Navy, all the guns and tanks, thank you great leader for trickle economics.
mmm mmm mmm

Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 25th, 2009
6:35 pm

Murderous Republinazi scum like Joan are typical of the grand ole fascist party. She writes: If the AJC building is bombed, and because a prisoner was not sufficiently influenced to give up the plot, I would hope that you would go with it. There would definitely be a moral to the story in that. If someone is bad enough to be in GITMO, they are bad enough to stay in GITMO–or more to the point, just execute them all, and then close the prison. Save a lot of taxpayer money, and rid the world of some serious scum.

Advocating mass murder is what terrorists do and that’s exactly what you are Joan!

Patrick

September 25th, 2009
8:12 pm

The only people who comment on editorials are people that are incapable of forming their own opinions. This person’s entire job is to be “controversial” so you people will read her column and argue and fight. This so called “journalist” doesn’t care if you agree or disagree. She only cares that you read her column so she can keep her job. You people are really a very sad group.
And to clarify, I am commenting on the pathetic losers that comment on editorials, not the editorial itself. There is a difference.