Patience is wearing thin for Muschamp

There's little consoling Florida coach Will Muschamp these days. (AP)

There's little consoling Florida coach Will Muschamp these days. (AP)

Will Muschamp’s welcome is wearing thin.

Florida fans are ready to dump Muschamp for 70 zillion reasons, including their offense stinks, but also for a list that includes some facts. Like he can’t beat Georgia (0-3), the Gators (4-5, 3-4 SEC) lost to Vanderbilt in Gainesville for the first time since 1945, they’ve lost four straight and now look like they’ll miss a bowl for the first time since 1990.

Even former coach Ron Zook, who was 23-14 (16-8 in the SEC) at Florida, is looking good right now. The Gators are 22-13 (13-10) under Muschamp, which includes going 11-2 last year.

Veteran journalist Buddy Martin, who has written a few books about Florida football and now hosts a radio show in Ocala, gave 10 reasons why Muschamp should go in this post.

His list includes a wide range of reasons, including: Muschamp has damaged Florida’s brand, he hires poor offensive coordinators and is surly with discontent fans.

But the biggest reason Martin points out is this: Florida State is riding high, enjoying its best season in 15 years. The Seminoles won won two highly publicized games over top 10 opponents on national TV. They likely will play for the national championship. Freshman QB Jameis Winston is a frontrunner for the Heisman Trophy.

FSU owns the state.

FSU, coupled with Miami’s mini resurgence, drops Florida down on the list of big-time recruits, making Muschamp’s job — or the new coach’s job — even tougher. Losing to Vanderbilt and missing bowls don’t sit well with the loads of talent coming out of Florida these days.

My guess is that Muschamp won’t be fired this year, much to the dismay of Gators fans, although
FireWillMuschamp.com is for sale, if anyone’s interested.

He’ll get another year to figure it out, maybe revamp his staff and sign some offensive talent.

He’ll get another shot, but next year might be his last.

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67 comments Add your comment

bubba

November 13th, 2013
10:15 am

the guy is a Georgia fan

b hope

November 13th, 2013
10:54 am

The previous coach quite the team after Ala beat him in the SEC Champ game due to the fact he did not have the players..He left little for Will to work with.. How many players have been drafted from the ones left over from Coach Quitter. Most of the best players he had were from Coach Zook recruiting. LOOK IT UP

Mercer fan

November 13th, 2013
11:07 am

A dawg was never good enough to coach a Gator. Maybe they could hire Coach Lamb…he could get the job done.

Road2Damascus

November 13th, 2013
11:25 am

We’ll if they do let him go…UGA should hire him as the Def Coordinator ASAP…imagine a pissed off Muschamp coaching the defense for UGA with all the talent Georgia has,plus, he is a great recruiter!!!

It would probably put UGA over the hump for their National title hopes….

Mark Stouffer

November 13th, 2013
12:09 pm

That “cupboard was bare” talk is just an excuse. I don’t recall UF having terrible recruiting EVER and I do recall that John Brantley was theoretically better than Tebow and that Chris Rainey was still around along with other talented players. I think that was an excuse that helped Gator fans deal with getting dumped by Urban. Muschamp just can’t make it happen as an HC and, as an FSU Alum, I suggest they keep him around for a LONG time. PS – do you have to act like a clown/jerk to be a HC at Florida?

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 13th, 2013
12:15 pm

He’ll probably get another year, since he had a decent season last year. Auburn had to prove the point with Chizik before they let him go, because he lucked into one successful season.

Muschamp has no substantial record of accomplishment as a Head Coach. He won’t likely build one in Gainesville. Florida should hire Bobby Petrino. By next year, most of the holier-than-thou howlers will have forgotten about Motorcycle Babe anyway.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 13th, 2013
12:17 pm

@Mark Stouffer

Florida recruited for Urban’s peculiar style of play prior to his “retirement”. Besides, the team had significant morale and disciplinary problems due to Urban hanging around for a year after he had already effectively quit.

John Galt

November 13th, 2013
1:27 pm

Hard to say that the cupboard is bare with UF recruiting classes in the top 10 each year for the last 10 years. S’plain away that one.

DawgforLife

November 13th, 2013
1:43 pm

(if they do let him go…UGA should hire him as the Def Coordinator ASAP…imagine a pissed off Muschamp coaching the defense for UGA with all the talent Georgia has,plus, he is a great recruiter!!!)

As a life-long Georgia fan….Anyone with an ounce of ‘common sense’ should realize that “Muschump” will NEVER, EVER, be considered a coaching candidate at the University of Georgia…As far as most knowledgeable Georgia fans are concerned, He’s nothing but a traitor, and will never be accepted back at UGA, for any reason….The howling would be heard from one end of the state of Georgia to the other, the fan base would openly revolt, and big-money backers would shy away at the very thought of someone like “Muschump” being involved with any facet of the University!

I personally thought the hiring of him at Florida was a ‘reach’ on their part…He will only serve as an interim at Florida & his coaching days at UF are numbered!

DawgforLife

November 13th, 2013
1:48 pm

Anyone who knows Georgia football laughs at the very thought of “Muschump” as a coach at UGA!!!

The howling would be heard from one end of the state to the other, the fan base would revolt, and

the big-money backers would shy away from the program by the thousands!

“Muschump” is a ‘TRAITOR’ & in my view will never be welcome at UGA!

His coaching days are numbered even at Florida!

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 13th, 2013
1:59 pm

Really?

An ex-player who coaches for a different team is a “traitor”?

Not only is that a hilarious concept, that attitude hints at why UGA is stuck in a never ending spiral of mediocrity.

MSNBC

November 13th, 2013
2:07 pm

Urban Meyer knew the talent was down so that’s why he faked an illness and told all that crap about retiring! Muschamp never had a chance just like Dooley with the Vols!

Mark Stouffer

November 13th, 2013
2:15 pm

7. This “empty cupboard” myth has gone too far. Urban Meyer’s last three classes and how ESPN ranked them nationally: 2008 — No. 4; 2009–No. 5; 2010–No. 1. So where did all that talent go? Worse yet, look for some major decommits and misses on the recruiting trail.

Excerpt from 10 Reasons…link

JB

November 13th, 2013
2:43 pm

Chatter pretty hot down there, and the loss to USc and the blow out by FSU hasn’t happened yet, and the Murphy kid at Qb is injured….and it really goes down hill fast. Gonna be a tough sell for him next year will Foley being his ONLY supporter. If he starts out rough, Foley will fire him mid season, cause the fans will boycott….and when a home game has 30,000 no shows, you’re toast.

JB

November 13th, 2013
2:45 pm

BUT…..all that said, from a Dawgs point of view, it’s priceless. Florida has been really good for about 20 years….Hell forgot about the 50 years before that……and the worm has turned.

Big Al

November 13th, 2013
4:18 pm

http://WWW.HireRonZook.com, anyone? I’m letting it go cheap!

MSD

November 13th, 2013
5:18 pm

I guess if losing to Vandy is the key to getting ousted, Richt is on his way as well.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 13th, 2013
5:37 pm

Mark Richt will retire when Mark Richt is ready. If he could be fired, then he would already be gone.

Brother has some dirt on somebody in Athens. No other way to explain it. ;-)

WetWillie

November 13th, 2013
7:17 pm

No need to pile on Will at this point. He has his work cutout going forward. If you don’t have a QB that can play then you’re in big trouble.

DawgNole

November 13th, 2013
9:57 pm

Mark Stouffer
November 13th, 2013
12:09 pm
. . . PS – do you have to act like a clown/jerk to be a HC at Florida?
________________________

No. You just have to BE one.

Tampa Gator

November 13th, 2013
10:16 pm

DawgNole….

Florida and Muschamp have had a very tough year (losses and multiple key injuries). So you can post whatever insults you want about Muschamp, but I can guarantee you that he will NEVER be investigated for sexual assault.

And Foley and the university President confirmed today that they are 100 percent behind Muschamp, and I think Muschamp is smart enough to realize that he has to get the offense fixed next year if he wants to stay in Gainesville beyond next year. I believe changes will be made and that will happen.

And…..by the way…..Florida under Muschamp is having a very good recruiting year and a bunch of highly rated prospects still think very highly of him and Florida. Florida will be back strong next year and will sign a very highly rated recruiting class this year.

GO GATORS.

Tampa Gator

November 13th, 2013
10:35 pm

DawgforLife
November 13th, 2013
1:43 pm
“As a life-long Georgia fan….Anyone with an ounce of ‘common sense’ should realize that “Muschump” will NEVER, EVER, be considered a coaching candidate at the University of Georgia…As far as most knowledgeable Georgia fans are concerned, He’s nothing but a traitor, and will never be accepted back at UGA, for any reason….”

@Dawgforlife…..

You need not worry. Muschamp will not be applying for any coaching job at Georgia….not even the defensive coordinator position that is currently so well occupied.

Dwagmeister

November 13th, 2013
11:32 pm

McGarity is a complete fool if he doesn’t dump the Preacher Man and hire Muschamp today.

RedStick!1

November 14th, 2013
6:11 am

I know the Gators have had alot of injuries but there is no excuse for losing to Vandy at home. I think the only reason that Muschamp will be back is because in addition to USC, the Texas, Nebraska, A&M and Penn State jobs may all come open. That’s alot of spots to fill and solid head coaches are hard to find. You basically have one great one in Saban and several really good ones, and those are debatable.

JJ

November 14th, 2013
8:42 am

I’d be surprised if they let him go before next year. A lot will depend upon how much progress Tennessee makes and how well Mizzou plays next year, since Georgia is looking at a rebuilding year and likely won’t be a factor in the SEC East.

I doubt he could survive losing to Vandy again.

Nellie Bly

November 14th, 2013
8:43 am

On his worst day, Will Muschamp has more intelligence and talent than wannabe coach Mark Richt.

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
9:03 am

Red Stick….

Muschamp will be back at Florida next year because the University of Florida president and AD still believe he is the right man for the job. Simple as that. And I doubt either has ever worried about competition when it comes to hiring a head coach at Florida.

JJ

November 14th, 2013
9:10 am

I heard that Muschamp got a 1000% vote of confidence (AKA The Kiss of Death) from Florida’s AD. ;-)

JJ

November 14th, 2013
9:14 am

@Nellie Bly

Heh!

That’s what’s known as “damning with faint praise”.

Bulldawg

November 14th, 2013
9:31 am

“Georgia is looking at a rebuilding year and likely won’t be a factor in the SEC East.”

I don’t see Georgia rebuilding next year. The defense is very young and will return most everyone. Scott-Wesley, Mitchell, and Conley will be back at WR, along with Marshall and Gurley in the backfield, plus Chubb and Sony Michel – along with Green and Douglas who have already proven themselves. Then you have Hutson Mason who has looked very good at the QB position. If anything, next year ought to be better than this year.

GamecockOL

November 14th, 2013
10:52 am

It’s an easy statement to make that Muschamp will hire a new OC, but what good OC would even consider going to Florida to work for a lame duck HC who has 80% of his fan base wanting him out. Good OC’s require 2-3 year deals which means the AD is taking on more $$$ if he has to fire the staff next year. Same crappy OL , maybe starting a freshman QB next year ….. good luck with dat !

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 14th, 2013
11:10 am

Georgia is always good next year.

It’s only “this year” that they ever have a problem with.

David Granger

November 14th, 2013
12:19 pm

Let’s see…the UF fanbase is calling for Muschamp to be fired. The Florida offense sucks, while the defense is still pretty strong because that’s Muschamp’s specialty.
The Georgia offense is pretty good, but our defense sucks and we could really use a new Defensive Coordinator.
Hmmm…I see a potential Win-Win situation there, if everybody had enough sense to pursue it.

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
12:56 pm

GamecockOL………….

That would be 80 percent of the people who post on blog sites. I was at the Vandy game and I did not hear hardly any anti Muscahamp comments before, during, or after the game. I did hear a lot of anti Pease comments for his horrible offensive play calling during the game and throughout this year. I think most of the intelligent Florida Gators fan base, and there are many thousands more of those out there, are either supportive of Muschamp or are on the fence because of all the injuries to key players this year. And, please explain how a coach with a 5-year contract is “lame duck.” And Florida remains Florida. It is an elite football program and the school can go get almost any offensive coordinator the school wants. Period. The Gators will be back better and stronger in 2014.

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
12:59 pm

@David Granger…..

1.the U of F President and AD have both stated that Muschamp is their man.

2. Muschamp has a five year contract at Florida in place.

3. Muschamp will never be a DC in college again, if and when he ever leaves Florida. He might be one in the NFL. If he leaves Florida and coaches again in college, it will not be as an OC….but as a HC.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 14th, 2013
1:13 pm

“Florida is an elite program.”

That right there’s funny — I don’t care who you are!

Billy

November 14th, 2013
1:57 pm

Ideal scenario: Muschamp gets fired. Grantham quits. Hire Muschamp as DC for the DAWGS!

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
2:08 pm

SEC……

Florida is having a down year….big time. But ask any top sports media person in the country if Florida is an elite football program….and you will not laugh at their answer. Or, simply, take a visit to Florida and tour the stadium and the facilities……nothing but elite everywhere. But think and post whatever dumb thing you desire. It is America.

blue

November 14th, 2013
2:49 pm

You people that call him a ‘traitor’ are idiots. Really…the guy gets an offer to be a head coach at, what was at the time, an elite program…and you expect him to turn it down out of loyalty to his former college where he, by the way, did NOT have an offer to be the head coach? Absolutely asinine.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 14th, 2013
5:10 pm

@Tampa Gator

Really? Elite?

Florida has had two short spans of football success within their rather long history. (I won’t even mention the Pell debacle.) Florida football history consists of Steve Spurrier’s and Urban Meyer’s head coaching tenures.

Winning 3 National Championships might make Florida “elite” when compared to say, Georgia. Nationally, referring to Florida as an elite program is a joke. Ohio State is an elite program — Florida is not.

Florida isn’t having a “down year”, they’ve merely regressed back to normalcy.

kerryb

November 14th, 2013
5:28 pm

UF’s elite status went away win Tim Tebow graduated.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 14th, 2013
5:35 pm

Elite programs don’t hire assistant coaches to lead their football teams.

TU

November 14th, 2013
5:35 pm

Florida is an elite program in the modern espn era.
Foley should go get O’leary’s O coordinator. UCF does not have a prolific offense, but it is balanced. Of course, their record speaks for itself.

TU

November 14th, 2013
5:55 pm

If Muschamp needs a QB, he should call Richt. UGA operates QB-r-us for the SEC.

Dawggie

November 14th, 2013
6:12 pm

So Oklahoma (Stoops), Georgia (Richt), Notre Dame (Faust), Michigan (Carr), Alabama (Shula) are not elite programs because they’ve hired rookie college head coaches in the past? Ok. Thanks for the great analysis.

Sunshine State

November 14th, 2013
6:19 pm

There is a reason that Florida, Florida State and Miami have combined to win 10 national championships (and played for about a half dozen more titles) since 1980. That didn’t just happen by coincidence. It’s called demographics. Florida is about the pass NY as the third largest state. The schools have grown in size and their athletic departments have grown in resources. Most importantly, the high level of high school football talent is not going away. These programs will experience down years, but the idea that any of them will remain in constant mediocrity is very unlikely. Sorry guys, the 1970’s aren’t coming back again.

old school

November 14th, 2013
7:18 pm

Get rid of Grantham and bring him back as uga def coordinator. At least he can do that, some people are good head coaches, and some are good coordinators. They don’t always go hand and hand. Muschamp is a better coordinator.

BaseballBuff

November 14th, 2013
8:16 pm

Muschamp looks to be a perfect fit for DC at UGA. It may sound like a long shot now, but I hope it happens.

JJ

November 14th, 2013
8:22 pm

Dawggie

November 14th, 2013
6:12 pm

So Oklahoma (Stoops), Georgia (Richt), Notre Dame (Faust), Michigan (Carr), Alabama (Shula) are not elite programs because they’ve hired rookie college head coaches in the past? Ok. Thanks for the great analysis.

……..

Georgia doesn’t even belong in that list of candidates to begin with, but even the truly elite teams in the list weren’t very elite when they had to hire an inexperienced Head Coach. Hell, even Auburn can win an NC every 50 years or so. That doesn’t make them “elite”.

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
9:11 pm

Sometimes posting with nonsensical people is nothing but a waste of time. An elite program is a program that operates with elite funding, facilities, and success over a period of time. Florida has been an elite program ever since Steve Spurrier came to Gainesville and built Florida into one and won a NC. And winning 2 more national titles since puts Florida’s football program into elite status for sure, despite this horrible year. Ohio State and Michigan are elite programs. Notre Dame, even though they have not won a national title in a while, still has an elite football program with their funding, support, and success through the years. Georgia, with their facilities and support, success, and one national title, is an elite program. Oklahoma and Texas are also elite programs. Nebraska is an elite program, although that status has slipped since they chose to join the little ten. Bama is elite and at the top of the elite programs right now. USC (the west coast one) is an elite program despite that recent struggles. Oregon is not elite yet, although they are working there way towards that classification with great support and facilities…although no NC yet. As I posted before, if you do not believe Florida is an elite program…..drive on down to Gainesville and observe the football facilities, attend a game in the elite stadium called THE SWAMP, and then visit and observe the three national championship trophies, multiple SEC title trophies, multiple BCS Bowl trophies, and the statues and trophies of the three Heisman trophy winners. Now…..back to you nonsensical non-elite posting at will…..and continue to make yourself look foolish.

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
9:18 pm

JJ…..

If Auburn is not an elite program, they certainly are very close to being one. A NC, very good facilities, SEC titles, Heisman Trophy winners…….outstanding fan support……sort of sounds elite to me.

Tampa Gator

November 14th, 2013
9:24 pm

Kerry b…..

I guess Steve Spurrier’s NC, SEC titles, and Heisman Trophy went away with Tebow? Danny Werfuel SEC, NC, and Heisman Trophies went away with Tebow? I guess the SEC and NC trophies with Leak went away as well? I guess all the BCS Bowl titles went away with Tebow as well? I guess the fantastic facilities went away with Tebow? I guess they burned down THE SWAMP when Tebow left? I guess the millions donated to the football program just stopped coming in when Tebow left?

Evliss

November 15th, 2013
12:02 am

Auburn whips the dawgs by two TDs, count on it, folks. Buh bye, Mark Richt.

Saint Jan Kemp

November 15th, 2013
12:09 am

“Georgia, with their facilities and support, success, and one national title, is an elite program.”

That’s a joke, right? That national title was 33 years ago. Jimmy Carter was President. It was a loooooong time ago.

Clarisse Dubois

November 15th, 2013
8:10 am

Auburn is certainly one of the SEC’s elite programs now, along with Bama, LSU, Texas A&M, Missouri, and South Carolina. Vandy is moving into the middle tier, with the rest occupying the cellar. Georgia hasn’t been a top tier school in many years, either athletically or scholastically, and all the Kool-Aid in the world won’t change that.

JJ

November 15th, 2013
9:00 am

Tampa Gator,

Auburn is about as “elite” as is Clemson or Baylor. Plenty of mid-tier programs have an occasional run of success. Florida wouldn’t have hired a Gene Chizik clone as their HC if they were an elite program.

Like Chizik, Muschamp is a good DC. Also like Chizik, Muschamp is a lousy program manager.

Dawggie

November 15th, 2013
10:11 am

JJ – your premise makes no sense. Every elite program (however you want to define that term) has made bad coaching hires. By your definition, there are no elite programs. The distinguishing characteristic of an elite program is that they have the resources (money, fan base, facilities, recruiting base) to recover quickly. UF has that and will recover from Muschamp’s tenure fairly quickly.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 15th, 2013
11:18 am

C’mon Dawggie,

You know who the elite teams in college football are. Your only mistake is in thinking that UGA is one of them.

Tampa Gator

November 15th, 2013
12:41 pm

JJ….

I am looking forward to the changes Muschamp makes after the season concerning the offensive coaches and the offensive scheme that has not worked. If he makes the right choices concerning those two things, he could have a long and very successful career as the head coach of Florida. If he remains stubbornly sold on his “play offense not to lose” scheme, he might not make it to mid season next year. Therefore, what decisions Muschamp makes or does not make will be one of the top college football stories after the football season ends.

Huh?

November 15th, 2013
11:21 pm

Clarissa Dubois
You did see where UGA lead the conference in football gradation percentage, right? You also saw, I imagine, where UGA was the only school in…the…US… to have Fulbright, Truman and Rhodes scholars in the same year, right? Did you notice that the Dawgs have played for the last two SEC championships? Yes, I hate to say they lost, but they were there. Not South Cackalacky, not Fla, not Tenn-uh-see.

old school

November 16th, 2013
12:29 am

Auburn, with a NC right? But it took a Georgia boy Cam Newton to do it. There is not enough talent in Bammer to win on their own talent.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 16th, 2013
10:53 am

@old school

Not enough talent in Georgia either, by those standards! ;-)

Harvey

November 16th, 2013
10:34 pm

Don’t be counting the coach out just yet. He may surprise you.

SEC_SEC_SEC

November 17th, 2013
10:22 am

The only surprises I look for from Will Muchamp is the level of vulgarity that he will spew from the sideline during the game. That boy needs to have his mouth washed out with lye soap! ;-)

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Paladin Death Dealer

November 27th, 2013
2:55 pm

Stupid fans always want to fire the coach. Coach boom will find work. He makes the players walk the line unlike the last head coach who only wanted to win and looked the other way on discipline issues. Not even Alabama’s 2nd and 3rd team QBs could win for Bama without the 1st guy being available. No way to make up for loss at QB and RB and losing a top 10 draftee at defensive tackle. Unlike a lot of head coaches, Will ain’t gonna let sports writers and fans who know very little about the game cuss him after games. And big bad SEC man, why don’t you try to wash the coaches mouth out. Better pack a lunch.