Pac-12 says it’s catching up to SEC

Oregon players will be jacked up when they play Stanford on Thursday night. (Getty)

Oregon players will be jacked up when they play Stanford on Thursday night. (Getty)

Improved teams.

Bigger games.

More money.

Big-time coaches.

Increased TV exposure

Extensive recruiting.

These are some of the reasons why the Pac-12 says it’s catching up to the SEC this season, at least according to an AP article.

Here’s Washington State AD Bill Moos:

“Here we are out on the West Coast, now all of sudden we’re in people’s living rooms and sports bars. Plus (the TV contract) provided the revenue for all of us to build the buildings that we’re doing to get ourselves up to par with the rest of the country in regards to recruiting.”

Sagarin ratings, according to the article, breaks down every conference by division. It rates the SEC West as the top division in the FBS, followed by the Pac-12 North (Oregon, Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State and California) and the Pac-12 South (USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado), before the SEC East.

A couple of Oregon students have even begun selling “We Want Bama” T-shirts.

More from the article:

More Pac-12 football games are on TV than ever before. Multimillion dollar facilities upgrades at one stage or another can be found on just about every campus. The roster of coaches has more notable names — Rich Rodriguez at Arizona, Todd Graham at Arizona State, Jim Mora Jr. at UCLA and Mike Leach at Washington State — drawing heftier paychecks and playing an exciting brand of ball. Oregon brought fast-football to the Pac-12 and now much of the conference is trying to chase down the Ducks, with various forms of the no-huddle, spread offense.

The Pac-12’s top two programs will be on display on Thursday night, when No. 2 Oregon plays at No. 5 Stanford on ESPN, so those of you who haven’t seen a Pac-12 game this season can judge for yourselves.

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mulk's a tool

November 6th, 2013
3:55 pm

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mulk's a tool

November 6th, 2013
3:55 pm

Bazooka Joe

November 6th, 2013
3:15 pm

Mulk – you mean like how UGA had a home and home scheduled with OSU and OSU promptly backed out of it ? You mean like that ? And BTW UGA went to various Big 10 teams and OSU was the only one that would do a home and home with us.

Bazooka Joe

November 6th, 2013
3:09 pm

Mulk – Bama gets the benefit of the doubt having won the last 2 titles – they stay #1 until someone beats them.


November 6th, 2013
2:35 pm

Lucifer Activist, you hit several nails right on the head….Bravo!

Responding to GIT BOB is like feeding feral cats…’s a temporary fix for the cat, and before long more of his kind consider your home as their own.


November 6th, 2013
2:34 pm

devil’s advocate,

If you want to count NC’s as being the only determining factor on conference strength then it is hard to argue against your point. But, when you try to go from there to all teams in the SEC are great and all other conferences are weak, then people, coaches, players, fans do need to whine. The SEC is NOT 8 or 9 deep. It just ain’t so. No team in the SEC least would be winning the Big 10, PAC 12, ACC. No team in the SEC west, other than Bama, would be winning the Big 10, Pac 12 or ACC, either. And, there are a lot of teams out there that could have lost to 2 unranked teams like LSU has this season. And, beating LSU is going to be the feather in the SEC winner’s cap? Different standards are being applied to Ohio St., Oregon and FSU than are being applied to Bama.

When you get right down to it, it is Bama and the rest. I like Bama but they haven’t played a top 10 team all season. OSU, FSU, Oregon, Clemson, Stanford all would be undefeated if they had Bama’s schedule.

I’ll stick with on “on-field performance as opposed to media guesswork or bestowed rankings.” In the BCS era, the SEC has losing records against the Big 12 and Big East. That’s head to head – on the field. When you combine all of it (major conferences) the SEC is only slightly ahead. Not the domination that you read about in the AJC or hear about on ESPN.

When Bama does get beat, it will be because of “they got beat up all season” excuse we hear about all the time from that 8 or 9 teams deep conference bull$hit.


November 6th, 2013
2:30 pm

PAC-12 will never get my respect until they are willing to play some of our top SEC teams in Bowl games. They have it set up to play Big 10 teams which is just ahead of the ACC as the weakest Conference and when they beat them they think they are in the same league as the top SEC teams. Sure they will play an SEC team in the kickoff game but most of the time the team they set up to play that first game ends up being a middle of the road SEC team that year and not one of our best. They haven’t proven anything. Most of the time The PAC-12 will have 1 or 2 teams ranked in the top 15 at the end of the year . The SEC will have 3 to 6 ranked in the top 15. Maybe the Big -10 was a great Conference 20 years ago but they aren’t now and all I see is a stronger Conference , The PAC-12 , taking advantage of that and wanting recognition which they will not get from the SEC fans. We are not the one avoiding the PAC-12 they are avoiding us in Bowl games.
I can’t wait until we go to the 8 team playoff so the PAC-12 can have their 1 or 2 representatives each year. It will be impossible to avoid the 2 to 4 SEC representative like they do now.
Until then all I hear now is lip service. You can’t be the best and get the respect of the best until you play the best .

Devil's Advocate

November 6th, 2013
1:09 pm

Jealousy is hilarious. The SEC played 2nd fiddle to the Big Ten, Big 12, Pac Ten, and Notre Dame in the 90. ESPN especially was all about promoting those teams and even jumped on the ACC bandwagon when they added VT, Miami, and BC.

After OSU, Oklahoma, Texas, and USC stopped winning championships, the attention switched to the SEC because LSU, Florida, Auburn, and Alabama all won championships along with teams like UGA, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and South Carolina spending significant time in the Top 10 in various seasons including winning decent bowl games.

The former media darlings from the other conferences dropped off people. That’s not the SEC’s fault. OSU embarrassed themselves twice against the SEC in BCS Championship Games. The upstart Oregon who is the new media darling got slowed by an average Auburn defense in another BCS championship game. Even mighty Notre Dame was given a reality check. And who could forget the real game changer involving 2 SEC teams in the BCS Championship Game?

Everything I have written is the reality of the situation. There is no agenda to make the SEC the best conference from a ratings or championship perspective. It is what it is…

If FSU, Oregon, OSU, or Stanford manage to win the BCS this year then congratulations will go out to them and the winner will be honored just like the previous 7 champions. But until that happens, stop whining.

A playoff is coming next season so there will be even more opportunity to make your case. Stop whining and win. ESPN would love nothing more than for OSU or FSU to win a championship. Do you forget that ABC and ESPN are under the Disney umbrella? OSU plays their fair share of games on ABC as does FSU and even Clemson. Just because ESPN has a TV deal with the SEC doesn’t mean anything. They have several time slots to fill with football games across all the ESPN networks so they want to fill those with games people will watch. It’s pretty simple. No one wants to watch Iowa vs Purdue. Even Nebraska vs Michigan is not as interesting as UGA vs LSU. The ratings justify everything.

The Pac 12 has potential but they aren’t there yet. If USC can get back on track and UCLA can keep building while Oregon and Stanford maintain then they will be something to watch for years to come.

As of now, most major conferences are 1 or 2 team shows. The SEC is interesting 8 or 9 deep because 8 or 9 teams rotate having great seasons from year to year.


November 6th, 2013
12:31 pm


I’m with you on this conference thing – stop it. Worry about your own team instead of claiming NC’s because Bama won yet again. Bama is beating everybody ESPECIALLY SEC teams. When you get past all the SEC chest thumping, who has Bama played?

Different standards is being applied to the SEC. Look at LSU – lost to two unranked teams??? LSU is put on a pedestal just in case they do beat Bama.

I don’t think of it as insecurity to point out the ESPN influence on these rankings as opposed to on field performance.

Devil's Advocate

November 6th, 2013
12:26 pm


So how do you explain Texas A&M’s smackdown of Oklahoma in the bowl game last season only a year after Oklahoma beat Texas A&M in a regular season Big 12 game?

Texas A&M was actually a better team in 2012 than they were in 2011. DUH.