Stanford’s Shaw doesn’t like SEC comparison

Stanford coach David Shaw earlier today objected to a reporter trying to compare his team with SEC East programs.
Under Shaw — and even under his predecessor Jim Harbaugh — Stanford has developed a rugged, ball-control style and stout defensive mentality that is as anti-West Coast as boiled peanuts.
Here’s what he said when asked to compare his program with SEC teams (as reported by Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News:

Stanford was 11-2 in 2011 and 12-2 in 2012, defeating Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. It was fifth in the country in rushing defense and 11th in scoring defense in 2012.

Shaw is a West Coast guy, but has been an assistant with the Philadelphia Eagles and Baltimore Ravens.

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stripes

September 4th, 2013
3:32 pm

Lighten up Francis

ignition

September 4th, 2013
3:33 pm

Who wan’ts to be compared to dumb rednecks, racist, and hillbillies ??
Can’t blame him.

GTBob

September 4th, 2013
3:41 pm

Shaw telling it like it is. The SEC can win all the titles they want. No one will ever want to be like them.

poser

September 4th, 2013
3:51 pm

No one wants to be like the SEC? Maybe try polling university presidents? No one brings in more money for their schools than the SEC. Poke fun if you want, but admit the truth

GTBob

September 4th, 2013
4:17 pm

No one wants to be like the SEC? Maybe try polling university presidents? No one brings in more money for their schools than the SEC.

That’s actually not true but even if it were im not sure why you think university presidents would care that much. College Athletics in general are supposed to pay for themselves. Anything extra is usually reinvested into the programs. Only 23 programs even turned a profit last year. Of those that did just about all of them were subsidized by their schools as well. Athletics are meant to be an activity for students. It’s nothing that a university president is going to be all that concerned about when there are hundreds of millions of dollars in other areas to worry about. Texas A&M generated 32 million in profit last year which was the most of any team. Do you really think Stanford’s president would even care that much about a $32 million profit when he has a 17 billion dollar endowment to look over?

poser

September 4th, 2013
4:28 pm

Really Bob? do some research and quit making stuff up. I thought they taught you better than that at GT. Texas, Alabama and UGA all brought in more than 32 million dollars. Also, you said that any extra went back to the school. That was my point and the reason that many would like to be like the SEC

poof!!!

September 4th, 2013
4:40 pm

Nothing wrong with emulating success. But I don’t think many people are saying Stanford is playing like some SEC teams. I don’t see what the big deal is. You play to win the game. That’s all.

I dropped my fried twinkie

September 4th, 2013
4:43 pm

poser
September 4th, 2013
4:28 pm

Texas, Alabama and UGA all brought in more than 32 million dollars. Also, you said that any extra went back to the school. That was my point and the reason that many would like to be like the SEC

you really are not too BRITE. did you read TURNED a PROFIT. Yes the schools you mentioned brought in more money but they also spent most of that money and only TURNED a SMALL PROFIT.
You didn’t graduate high school I would guess by your post.

GTBob

September 4th, 2013
4:49 pm

Really Bob? do some research and quit making stuff up. I thought they taught you better than that at GT. Texas, Alabama and UGA all brought in more than 32 million dollars. Also, you said that any extra went back to the school.

You should probably do your own research. They all brought in more than 32 million in revenue, not 32 million in profit. Here is a nice site that will lay it all out for you:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/

UGA made about 2.7 million in profit last year and took 3.2 million in subsidies. Meaning the athletic program actually ended up in the red for the school. Im sure Stanford’s president is staying up late every night trying to get a piece of that action.

I dropped my fried twinkie

September 4th, 2013
4:50 pm

School Name…………. City State……………. Sports Profits
The University of Texas at Austin Austin TX 25,524,017
The University of Alabama Tuscaloosa AL 22,153,601
Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus University Park PA 19,478,286
Ohio State University-Main Campus Columbus OH 17,795,469
University of Notre Dame Notre Dame IN 16,389,277
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor Ann Arbor MI 16,002,888
Michigan State University East Lansing MI 14,733,782
University of Nebraska-Lincoln Lincoln NE 12,077,312
University of Iowa Iowa City IA 8,827,938
Texas State University-San Marcos San Marcos TX 8,086,514
University of Miami Coral Gables FL 7,515,813
University of Florida Gainesville FL 6,816,282
University of Kentucky Lexington KY 6,173,117
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College Baton Rouge LA 6,112,033
Indiana University-Bloomington Bloomington IN 5,484,384
University of Georgia Athens GA 4,964,268
Oklahoma City University Oklahoma City OK 4,947,655
University of Kansas Lawrence KS 4,766,193
Texas Tech University Lubbock TX 4,376,218
Clemson University Clemson SC 3,967,813
University of Louisville Louisville KY 3,585,112

ignition

September 4th, 2013
5:33 pm

Stanford is a Top 5 Institution in the Country, like hell if they want to be a dumb ass SEC school. 17 Billion dollars in endowment, to 50 world class institution, not some bull$hit alabama.

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Keith Mason

September 4th, 2013
6:02 pm

ignition, spoken like a true left coast guy. In reality you raise some very interesting points. No, Stanford or any other west coast school should never be compared to any SEC school simply because you can’t carry Alabama’s jock strap. With your post I am sure Stanford is well represented by you and your uniformed ilk.

ignition

September 4th, 2013
6:42 pm

Who say’s I’m from California?
Alabama is a dump of a state, last in education, first in poverty, full of racist confederate flying rednecks. Hell NO it’s not Silicon Valley or Napa Valley. No one wants to be called a bama for a reason.

Dwag Daze

September 4th, 2013
6:59 pm

My oh my, such hostility tonight. You guys just need some more Kool-Aid. Really.

PaulinNH

September 4th, 2013
9:47 pm

poser

September 4th, 2013

No one wants to be like the SEC? Maybe try polling university presidents? No one brings in more money for their schools than the SEC. Poke fun if you want, but admit the truth.

Stanford’s $17 Billion (with a B) endowment is greater than 13 of the 14 SEC schools combined – A&M has a boat load of Welch money but they are $10Bn behind Stanford.
I am sure that the President of Stanford wished his school was more renowned for football than for being a world-class academic institution that has helped give birth to such companies as HP, Google, and Intel.

Dawg Whisperer

September 4th, 2013
11:30 pm

The name of the game among these posts is who can deliver the biggest and best insult. Blogs tend to fetch the worst behavior among readers because the communication is impersonal and the consequences of poor human behavior are virtually non-existent.

Now, my opinion concerning HC Shaw’s comments. He made no reference to academics. His principal concern is playing winning football. With respect to sports generated revenue, gross receipts is always important for a variety of reasons. The larger the revenue, the greater the impact and multiplier effect on the local economy. If you don’t believe me, ask the local population that reap huge benefits on game day.

SlawDog

September 5th, 2013
8:13 am

Missouri called it “Old Man Football”, didn’t they?

At least, that’s what they called it until they played their first year in the SEC. Now, nobody asks for their opinion.

BTW: Why are there so many academic nerds lurking on a football blog? Is the library closed this morning?

Chris

September 5th, 2013
8:20 am

If you read the full article, he preferred to be compared to a Bill Walsh influenced team.

SimpleDawg

September 5th, 2013
8:29 am

So David Shaw doesn’t consider it to be complimentary when Stanford’s football team is compared to successful SEC teams. Kind of a haughty West Coast, I’m cooler than you, attitude from the football coach of an institution that has obviously put an awful lot of effort into building a respected football program by invoking the style of play that has long been associated with the SEC and the Big 10, 11, 12, 13,…… – the 2 most historically successful conferences in CFB. A very ‘gracious’ response from someone who is trying to hide his jealousy of others’ success.

Of course the inference is that the SEC schools are nothing more than a bunch of backwoods school houses teaching readin’, writin’, and ‘rithmetic. Typical elitist attitude from one of those brainiac schools who love to turn their noses up when everything is going well, but also like to use their reputation as a crutch when problems arise.

I wonder if ‘they’ realize that the rest of us are on to them……

Andy Johnson is a damn fool

September 5th, 2013
9:24 am

Stanford couldn’t beat ND last year. ND was embarrassed by AL. AL lost in the SEC and UGA hung with AL until the last play. Stanford is 4th in SEC west and 4th in SEC east. Truth hurts.

Andy Johnson is a damn fool

September 5th, 2013
9:27 am

@I dropped my fried twinkie

Another dumb ass post by a dumb ass. Compares 25 million to 25 billion. Only off by a multiple of 1000. But that is what dumb asses who support AL do.

collegeballfan

September 5th, 2013
10:44 am

I see the high schoolers are touting football as the end all of education.

GTBob

September 5th, 2013
11:49 am

A very ‘gracious’ response from someone who is trying to hide his jealousy of others’ success.

I don’t think Shaw cares much about the SEC’s success. He doesn’t want his program or school compared to the programs or schools in the SEC for a reason. The SEC is pretty much all lower brow academic schools letting in anyone who can pass minimum NCAA qualifications. They oversign, grey shirt, buy players, and do other countless things to get any edge they can. You can imagine that one of the best universities in the world might not want to be compared to that. Even if the SEC wins the next 100 MNC games, Stanford is never going to want to be compared to them.

7576DAWG

September 5th, 2013
1:34 pm

Any great school like Stanford can beat any SEC school on a given weekend but the reason the SEC set’s the Standard is because when most school’s from other Conferences only have to play 2 or 3 really hard games every year the average SEC school has to play anywhere from 4 to 6 top 20 program’s plus an SEC Championship game with two top 10 team’s before they even get to the National Championship game. Depth and endurance over 12 game’s is what set the SEC apart from other Conferences.

GTBob

September 5th, 2013
1:56 pm

most school’s from other Conferences only have to play 2 or 3 really hard games every year the average SEC school has to play anywhere from 4 to 6 top 20 program’s

This is a straight up lie. Care to name the SEC schools who play 6 top 20 teams? Ill give you a hint. There aren’t any. A few play 4 top 20 teams. Bama only plays 2. Its not much different than any other conference. Stanford for instance plays 4 top 20 teams and 5 top 25 teams.

Gatorzip74

September 6th, 2013
3:54 am

GTBob- I invite you to take a look at the 2012 and 2013 schedules for the University of Florida. The Gators arguably had the nation’s toughest schedule last year and this year.

gagata

September 7th, 2013
8:52 am

brent

September 7th, 2013
10:11 am

who cares about academics. this is about football.you geeks always pull the academics crap because your team sucks