Parents pay the price when kids violate Jonesboro curfew

The City of Jonesboro recently approved a revised ordinance that will fine parents whose children are on the streets past 11:00 PM. The revisions are in response to multiple teen incidents at The Party Hall, the most recent being where a 16-year old was arrested after elbowing a police officer.

Should parents be held responsible for their children's actions via fines, jail, etc.?

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According to the News-Daily, “Jonesboro police will be tasked, under the ordinance, with picking up any children found violating the curfew, and taking them to the Jonesboro police headquarters. The parents of the youths will then be called . . . and they will have to come pick up their children. Upon picking up their children, the parents will be given a citation which will require them to appear in court and pay a fine.”

I think we all know at least one parent who cannot control their child(ren) no matter what they do or how hard they try. This ordinance is going to be a rude (financial) awakening for those parents, and with summer a few months away, the city of Jonesboro could potentially make a ton of money.

The dollar amount of the fine has not yet been set, and that could be the determining factor in whether this ordiance works, especially for those parents whose child(dren) violate the ordinance more than once.

Do you think this revised ordinance will help to make parents more responsible for their children?

According to the Clayton County Police Department, the county’s teen curfew is still in effect as follows: children under 17 must be off the street from 11pm-6am Sunday-Thursday; and 12am-6am Friday-Saturday.

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Brick House in FP

March 22nd, 2011
3:04 pm

The Parents of the child might be the only one to pay the price. The 11:00 pm curfew is still too late for kids top be on the streets. My wife and I have always had the firm belief that our children should not be playing after dark; Especially on the streets !!!
….A 9;00 pm curfew would discourage many unruly households from locating into an area, if the law was strictly enforced.

BnB

March 22nd, 2011
3:35 pm

We can only hope this will be enforced – could be first step into making a difference. Sad comment on our society ,tho – having to make people, who birthed babies – to actually be responsible as parents.

Tired & Fed Up

March 22nd, 2011
4:50 pm

I agree with Brick House in FP. The curfew at 11pm is still too late, 9pm would be more realistic with the goal it seems Clayton County is trying to achieve. I, for one, am sick and tired of rude, disrespectful, ignorant children roaming my neighborhood. They walk around using profanity, fighting, pants hanging down (young men have no sense of self respect anymore), wearing long, dirty braids–and the young ladies seem to be in a contest of some sort with these type of boys because their self worth is seriously in need of rehabilitation! Once you get a glimpse of their “so-called” parent(s), it becomes extremely obvious that the child(ren) are getting this type of behavior directly from home. It is true that there are a few good parents with awful children, and in this case, if this curfew (or any other punishment) cannot curb this type of child from getting into trouble, then the courts should consider making the child truly accountable for his/her actions by sending them to military school and discontinue punishing that parent. But it is very important to note that that would be a rare situation—most parents who are law abiding, hard working, educated, church affiliated, and productive citizens often have children who exhibit the same characteristics. Honestly, it seems like Clayton County was the only area accepting housing vouchers when all of the public housing in Atlanta was demolished. My subdivision has DRASTICALLY changed within the last 2 years and maybe this will make it a little better. To the officiers of Clayton County—please enforce this ordinance so the REAL citizens of this county can rest a little better at night!!!

Brick House in FP

March 22nd, 2011
5:01 pm

Let this be a reminder, for those that don’t keep up with the News of Clayton County, Most crimes happens under the covers of darkness and Night Fall provides opportunities for crimes to be committed on law abiding innocent victims.
Another thing to bring attention to; How many teenagers are killed in the covers of darkness, as a result of gang related incidents ?

….We are not in Kansas.

What!!!

March 22nd, 2011
6:04 pm

Tired & Fed Up,

I hope you live in the city of jonesboro. This is for the city only it will not be enforced by the county.
If not i am so sorry because we need a curfew in the county also not just cities. But if the county did this they would be spending the marjority of their time picking up kids.

Inglorious Gentelman

March 22nd, 2011
6:27 pm

This will be just another finacial assualt on parents who can least afford the penalty. I surmise, the ordinance will be enforced along racial lines like everything else in clayton county. Poor parents will now have to pay up. Judges will “refer” more of our young men to the private probation companies that contribute thousands of dollars to the judges re-election campaigns. America is the land of the free! This means the freedom to come and go as you want. Clayton County is the armpit of the universe. I find it so interesting that people on this blog rant and rave about section 8 residents….the flip side is that the homeowners (majority white) put their homes on the section 8 program for the residents. Get the three stooges of the BOC and watch how fast the county will improve.

The Plutocrats

March 22nd, 2011
7:14 pm

What happens when teens violate the counties’ curfew?

Nospin

March 22nd, 2011
7:47 pm

11:00pm is too late for young kids to be on the street. 9:00pm is more like it. Teens hanging out that late is an accident waiting to happen.

Brick House in FP

March 22nd, 2011
8:08 pm

Another question that we might might be asking ourselves is, What are the curfew laws for minors in Georgia?

And; What Is the Punishment for a Curfew Violation in Georgia?

However; Each County and Each it’s Municipalities has their own individual ordinances,their own form of penalties and fines.

In Forest Park, We have a curfew for minors of 10:00 pm : Sunday thru Thursday and Friday & Saturday from 11:00 pm

…Jonesboro is not the only city that is having a curfew for minors.

Former Single Mom

March 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm

I have a question: Is the primary purpose to make money for the city of Jonesboro? (I’m also thinking of the recently proposed ordinance to fine homeowners whose homes have been forclosed on for not registering that fact with the city)

If we want to make those parents (not always but often poor and overworked) pay $$$ who are having trouble controlling their teens, who were profiled to be Wallstreet’s target group for subprime mortgages (of which Clayton County had not a few), aren’t we missing some kind of practical point?

Maybe Jonesboro police could walk down the street to one of those mega churches that pay them for their services on Sunday, and ask someone to mentor these young people who are often missing structure – rather than punish financially strapped residents who aren’t able to afford the basics as it is.

Melvin Cox

March 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm

Fine the parents, then arrest them if their kids continue to cause trouble! If good parents have unruly kids who refuse to behave, allow the parents to sign these kids over to the state.

retired

March 22nd, 2011
9:50 pm

I agree with most…Kids need to be in by 9 msot nights. Mine were. Those with unruly children need to petition the courts for help.

Victory1

March 22nd, 2011
10:35 pm

Yes I agree 9pm needs to be the time set for a curfew for during the week days and including the weekends that is if they are not with a parent then it should be fine, out passed curfew on the weekends

Alicia Schneider

March 23rd, 2011
8:07 am

I have the same issue, as many others do, with teens roaming the streets and using profanity. Many have no fear and will attack adults, either verbally or physically. When they are confronted with adults who will not tolerate the behavior the typical response is, “You wanna deal with my momma”? I support the curfew and agree with others that the time needs to be pushed to 9:00 p.m. instead of 11 p.m. The police RARELY venture into my neck of the woods over here in Ellenwood so the message that has been sent is that these kids (and their parents) can virtually get away with just about anything. I have observed that the only way we can get CCPD to pay attention to us is when there is a shooting or a violent situation. Remember the dog that attacked the little girl last year? That occurred two houses from me…all the news crews were out here. Why? Face time on t.v. Our sheriff has commented more than once about “looking good on television”. What is that? I fully support the city of Jonesboro but most of these “parents” won’t be deterred from entering the county nor will the financial burden of a fine suddenly cause them to be responsible parents. It has become clear that many of us are at the mercy of these roaming gangs of thugs but I am not one to simply accept it. It does not take a village to raise a child. It takes parents who understand that they are raising the next generation and the responsibility lies at their feet for raising unproductive, criminal people. The fines are great for generating revenue but it will not cure the societal and cultural issues that exist. I say to the CCPD: be aggressive with enforcement, write as many citations as you can, and fine the hell out of as many as you can. Make it as uncomfortable as is possible to occupy Clayton County territory. For many, jail/prison is the only avenue available anyway. I know I must sound pessimistic and that I am “beating down” on these kids but live here, work here, own a business here, own a home here, and drive through the county and you will know I’m only speaking what is blatantly obvious. Residents who truly care should stand up and take this county back…through any means necessary. I am not confident in our law enforcement agencies in Clayton County to be effective anyway. The stakeholders, property owners, can certainly be effective.

I see stupid people

March 23rd, 2011
8:53 am

I say fine, fine, fine and jail, jail, jail all the little and big thugs alike. If you make it inhospitable or too expensive for them, guess what? They will surely leave! It time to take no prisoners, send them a clear message, and take back the county! Why can’t a majority minority area be clean, peaceful, and nice? It can if enough people care and stand up like the leaders of the 60’s. Enough is enough!

What is a parent?

March 23rd, 2011
9:14 am

I am sick and tired of everyone making excuses for these parents who has never instilled respect, courtesy, and a descent level of self respect when their children were young. These teens didn’t get this way over night. What happened is that parents stopped being parents. If you have a teen who is out of control it is the parent responsibility to make sure they get the services they need. If you don’t know where to go, why not just simply ask. They have no problem going to the welfare office to get WIC, Food Stamps, TANF, and a housing voucher. We will continue to have children behave like this if parents don’t take the time to parent your child. If you took the time with one I bet you wouldn’t keep having children without there being a two parent household. The bottom line is that we would not have these curfews or private ran jails and probation services if there wasn’t the clientele to bring in the money. I don’t understand why do parents support these teen clubs anyway. If you want to have a social event let’s try school activities!

BnB

March 23rd, 2011
9:26 am

Inglorious – how stupid – there is only one race in Clayton – so of course – your analogy holds up. If the shoe fits . . . . .

Roach

March 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

The city is probably hoping that the mere notion of a curfew, with the potential for police involvement, will keep decent kids off the street and out of trouble. There are a lot of sad and desparate stories in houses and apartments all across Clayton County–a lot of people who need help, but won’t find any. But if you can influence a decent kid off the street, and avoid a senseless tragedy and a wasted life, that’s something good, and it’s probably worth the hassle.

What!!!!

March 23rd, 2011
11:43 am

Well i had an problem a year ago with a child stealing my son’s bike. We located the child had a report made and guess what they told me. They call the DA to see if it is important enough to take them to jail. Which most of the time it is not. So they let them go to the parents. It has to be one of the 7 deadly sins before they go to jail. The parent was not fined we had to go to mediation and talk to them . They did not want it to go to court. So this young man had to write a essay called “My BAD” and write an apology letter to my son. This was never done and the court did not enforce it. I had to call to remind them. So to put the blameon the parents and make them pay is a great idea but it is only in theory. That is not how it works. The parents have nothing to do but worry or if they are parents that do not care they just leave and shrug it off. So until we actually punish the parents for what the kids are doing this will never end. The parents do not punish their kids.The parents are not feeling the pinch. This is a joke. THe cities have the curfews. So lets follow with the county.

JustTheFacts

March 23rd, 2011
1:14 pm

At the end of the day, parents are accountable and responsbile for their children. My hat goes off to Jonesboro! I think this is a creative yet assertive way to keep our children and our streets safer!

JustTheFacts

March 23rd, 2011
1:17 pm

@ Inglorious…I understand your perspective, but it does not cost a dime to parent and keep your child at home. Spoken as minority single mother. Good parenting is not necessarily about economics, it is about ethics and morals. I appreciate your concern, but as a community we have to get this together.

Brick House in FP

March 23rd, 2011
2:30 pm

Jonesboro is only playing catch up with this long overdue ordinance and in my own opinion, I think that Jonesboro’s New Ordinance is way too lax, considering the potential for more crime. My Son and his family own a home in Jonesboro and the house and cars have had the windows shot out on more than one occasion.
I have no praise for a city council and Mayor that ignores these kind of problems, for so long, without acting a lot sooner. If they really knew about their city, or cared enough, the curfew would be 9:00 pm or at least 10;00 pm.

2DPoint

March 23rd, 2011
2:53 pm

I can understand some split decisions on this matter. While some might believe it’s a good idea, others might believe it’s the beginning of a form of martial law……focused on a specific group of citizens. It will be interesting watching this play out. Will it change Jonesboro for the better? Is it something other areas of Clayton should consider? Keep in mind that it costs more to catch and incarcerate those violating the curfew than the fine would be for the parents. Catching them before they commit a crime or thinking about committing one costs the taxpayers.

Nospin

March 23rd, 2011
3:04 pm

Maybe instead of 9:00pm, 30 minutes after sundown(or one hour) would work out better? That might be a better option to cover summer, and winter months.

Tired & Fed Up

March 23rd, 2011
4:53 pm

Where are the recreation centers in this county? Most of the children simply do not have a place to go anymore — making getting into trouble inevitable. They have nothing constructive to do with their free time and their parents aren’t making any constructive plans for them, instead they are most likely relieved to have the kids out of their hair and freely allow these children to roam the streets and malls all day and most of the night — which then becomes a problem for the rest of us. We have some piss-poor, so-called leaders in office who’d rather fight over salaries, and whose turn it is to use the county’s credit card (for their personal use, of course)than to govern over the cities, counties, and states — and its people — as they were elected to. We, as a people, have gotten really relaxed ourselves and ignoring what’s really going on and that is why we are facing the challenges we have today. But it doesn’t erase the fact that sorry parenting is the origin of it all. “JustTheFacts”, I agree with your comment–economics is not what parenting is based on. It is about morals, ethics, values, self respect, etc., but when you have parents and even some of our leaders void of these traits, how do we expect these children to do any better than what they are doing? In my youth, you could pay any of us to walk the street cursing, fighting, drinking,smoking marijuana and cigarettes out in the open like these kids are today. It is sad. Just sad.

Brick House in FP

March 23rd, 2011
5:13 pm

Nospin : “Maybe instead of 9:00pm, 30 minutes after sundown(or one hour) would work out better? That might be a better option to cover summer, and winter months”

“After Sundown” would mean that a lot School aged children would miss out on Sport Programs,After School Activities, Football Games, Basketball Games,, and Local Recreational Sports.
In the winter months, darkness might fall around 6:00 pm.

Let us be more Constitutional and Teach our children the values of earning their rights, to grow up as Adults, and to hurdle over the pitfalls of childhood.

I remain at 9:00 pm; Anything after that time, the child should be accompanied by a legal Guardian or a Parent.

Clayco Parent

March 23rd, 2011
5:55 pm

I’m a middle aged woman that was born here, works here and has lived here for all my years. In answer to the question will this revised ordinance make parents more responsible for their kids? Absolutely not! But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.

I have one child myself, middle school age, and I know where he is every moment of the day and night. But what seems to be the norm now is “consultative” parenting. Check in w/Mom & Pop via text & it’s all good.
I can’t count the number of co-workers I’ve heard talking excitedly about their teen getting their drivers license and how much freedom they’ll (the parents) gain when little Johnny can drive himself to bible study, So many parents see the teen years as the “hands off” period that lets kids figure out who they are (all by themselves evidently).

I’ve heard just as many co-workers complain that they shouldn’t be held responsible for their kids once they’re in their teens b/c “they snuck out” or “he/she took my car keys without me knowing!”. Jeez Louise people! If not the parents, then who?

I’m 100% behind this curfew revision and hope there will be concerted effort within Jonesboro to enforce it fairly and consistently. I don’t need my son to like me as his “friend”, so he’ll think I’m the “cool mom”, I need him to respect me as his mother. If he’s caught out after curfew and I get that call from headquarters to pick him up, I’ll take my ticket/fine/whatever in stride and ensure that the consequences roll down hill as they did when I was a teenager at Mundy’s Mill.

Brick House in FP

March 23rd, 2011
6:24 pm

Tired & Fed Up : “Where are the recreation centers in this county?”

Another question might be, Where is the involvement of the parents ?
Local Recreation Centers are supported by the parents and it takes enrollment fees to enter the children into sports programs. Time, Money, and Work is required to make the Recreation Centers a reality.
I was lured into The Recreational Youth Programs by my neighbors and it grew from there. My Family and I have been all over The Clayton County Youth Programs and Sons grew up to enter their children into these same programs. This is what brings a county together !!

I had several parents that wouldn’t take their children to baseball practice and I had to use my own vehicle as a taxi to pick them up and drop them off. One of the good parents told me that some parent thought that I was being paid and the cost of the fee also covered the cost of transportation. The good parent set them straight and we seen much more of them, after that.
Recreation Centers ( Athletic Associations ) in the county, has a lot to offer and during the Tournaments or Traveling Teams, Families can become familiar with other parts of county and the people. My Sons played “Rec Ball” for Forest Park and Jonesboro, and today, They have friends stretching across five different counties.

Having a Family is a full time job, with no days off for good behavior.”Rec Ball” was the best thing that ever happened to our family. Hey, We even went on Vacation with families that met from The Recreation Programs. It brings people together as long lasting friends. I can’t say enough about my memories of our county and the good times we had together, but, it took family involvement to make it happen.

jsmith

March 23rd, 2011
9:28 pm

i wonder why clayton county went down hill so fast? for the life of me i just cant figure it out? does anyone out there know what happened to clayton county, it used to be a nice place to live 20 years ago.

Nospin

March 23rd, 2011
9:43 pm

jsmith

Simple answer to your question. “White Flight” Thats what caused it all.

Melvin Cox

March 23rd, 2011
10:40 pm

It’s Done 101 – IMO

White Flight = ~20% of Whites are fearful or predjudiced against Blacks. When any AAs move in, they begin to move out. Over time Blacks now 20% of neighborhood (80/20 rule). As long as status quo is maintained, neighborhood is fine and everybody gets along. A few Asians and Hispanics also move in with no problems. The first AA families are at same class level so no issues arise, school test scores remain the same. Corruption checked somewhat by local community groups and/or good public services.

Blacks see other Blacks, see nice neighborhood, see many Whites, conclude its a ’safe’ area and start to move in more (second wave). Outside of economic factors (foreclosures, etc) problems start as friends and relatives of AAs who are not social equals to either group start apppearing. These new AAs hang out, ‘keep it real’, chill, and unsupervised children begin to disturb the status quo with raucous behavior.

More AAs move in (third wave), trash begins to appear, cars of youth begin to be seen, a few petty break-ins by youth in this once crime free neighborhood contiues to threaten the status quo. Once over 35% AA, Whites abandon neighborhood and a mass exudus occurs. School test scores preciptiously start falling.

This fourth wave of AAs are renters or not at same class level of first 20% on AAs. First 20% of AAs see handwriting on wall and begin to move out too. Their peaceful, clean, and quiet neigborhood is no longer as such as too many of the lower class move in and alter the staus quo. Blacks now begin to be elected to local political office.

After a neighboord tilts (60%+ AA), crime increases, schools challenged by new students with social issues (free lunch, single mom HOH, etc), so property value drops or is red-lined. Foreclosures begin to appear as area goes dowm due to lower tax base. Retail stores begin to close, replaced by title, pawn, hiphop clothes and wig/wave supply stores. Section 8 proliferates. AAs win land-slide political victories, bring in bus service and other lower economic people services. Corrutption without maintaing local services increases.

Quality of life is down, services and schools are down, crime is up, negative media attention, and fighting over the crumbs begins… Now just wait 20+ years for the rainbow people and artists to move in and reverse the cycle

Tell The Truth

March 24th, 2011
7:43 am

Nospin

So White makes right? That’s a ludicrous statement. It’s more like Middle Class Flight, replaced by the Working & (and non working) Poor. Plus, most of the county’s residents dwell in apartments (at least 80%), which has a severe impact on the creation of a solid tax base. Let’s not oversimplify the current state of our county to a racialist “White is good/ Black is bad” conversation.

kallen

March 24th, 2011
9:14 am

Commissioner Gail Hambrick is hosting “What’s On Your Mind”, where she will speak one on one with residents this Saturday, 9 AM- 12:00 noon at the Virginia Burton Gray Recreation Center. Call (770) 473-5751 to set up an appointment.

Roach

March 24th, 2011
9:27 am

It did not help that past county commissions approved so much starter home construction across Clayton County. That’s an anchor holding us down. Some neighborhoods have the opportunity to rise again because there were interesting fixer-upper homes with at least the potential of nearby amenities, that appeal to urban pioneers willing to invest sweat equity. Great swaths of Clayton County have nothing but tiny, boring ranch homes. You can’t do anything with them except tear them down. Past county commissions have anchored Clayton County at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder. It would take tremendous vision and courage to change Clayton County’s fate.

Jborodawg

March 24th, 2011
10:58 am

The curfew is a good idea, and I agree it should probably be 9PM for weeknights. I voted “for” fining the parents. But, I also realize the onus should be on the kids; make them responsible for their own actions.

Tired & Fed Up: you make some great points. Kids need more recreational areas…even if just a small area to play sports, etc…just a cleared off area or something…even make-shift…just somewhere to go play. Rec centers are fine, but they’re too far away to walk for many kids.

Which brings up… Brick House,”…I had several parents that wouldn’t take their children to baseball practice and I had to use my own vehicle as a taxi to pick them up and drop them off…” That’s the point. Not everybody can drive their kids to a rec center or ball field. We need more “playing fields”…but they don’t have to be as fancy or as “organized” as Rum Creek, etc.

Concerning curfews, I was gladdened to just now see also that Walking Small plans to run for sheriff again. That’ll get the kids off the streets fer sure. (Actually, I’m shocked he would rear his ugly lil head again.)

Melvin: What does Alcoholics Anonymous have to do with anything?

Gramma from Florida

March 24th, 2011
12:56 pm

I had to think real hard about commenting on this because i have be there with a teen, that I could not control, no matter what i did. Put special grates on the windows, slept at his door, and many other things. I learned, if he wants to get out, he is going to get out. I don’t have a solution, but punishing the parents isn’t it. The kids will intentially stay out, so the parents get in trouble. Find a way to punish them. Anything from scrubbing toilets, to lock up for the weekend. If you don’t punish the offender, it is just a money making proposition for the city.

Gramma from Florida

March 24th, 2011
1:05 pm

I want to add, that I do support the curfew. I just want people to understand that punishing the parents, is not going to help the situation, unless, as i read back through, your total intent is to run the whole family off.

Brick House in FP

March 24th, 2011
2:11 pm

Jborodawg : “We need more “playing fields”…but they don’t have to be as fancy or as “organized” as Rum Creek, etc.”

I have a full understanding that children has to been occupied and I also under the problem with having “Practice Fields” for the Sport Teams to have their practice before game day approaches. If each age group has 12 teams and only one game field, where will the teams have Practice ?
Rum Creek is no exception to this and neither is the well established Recreation Field at Forest Park.
Many Practice fields can be located throughout the county at Elementary Schools, Churches, and Vacant Lots.

The problem that I have seen, during the past 20 years, is the rapid decline of participation and interests from our families. I know of some families that takes their grandchildren to Rum Creek, although they own homes in Henry County.

It was always up to the City, The Local Funded Athletic Associations, Te Board of Parents, The Youth Baseball Directors, and The Coaches to maintain the fields. The problem is no involvement by the parents anymore.

We have some very good Recreational Facilitates in our county, but, something has been lacking for awhile and its sad to see teams that has to play against other each, from week to week, for the lack of other teams to compete with.
How can we lodge complaints, when the families of Clayton County don’t use the facilities that they have at their feet ?
I spent my off seasons recruiting and encouraging families to allow their children to participate in our local youth programs. The only thing that I ever ask of my neighbors, Try to make your own difference in our community; Then, maybe, we will have another chance to come together as a county again. To myself; This would be a good beginning to make our county whole and unified.

Tiffany

March 24th, 2011
3:22 pm

Parents arent the only ones influeencing Children these days, Celebrities, Tv shows other family members and friends. How can you Say that a cerfew shoulld be put in order when nothing is going to be done about it, children these days i agree they need to be punished, and parents need to control their kids but now-a-days how can you with all the laws against hitting your child, if you hit them them your a child buser if you yell at them your mentally abusing them, where is the line?

getyourown

March 24th, 2011
3:59 pm

Nospin & Tell The Truth: I suspect you’re both right. Middle-class flight has impact ClayCo negatively. It just so happens that the majority of the middle-class residents that left were white. I’d also argue that some of those that stayed have done no good either, black and white. The fact of the matter is if you have children and schools are important (this isn’t always the case) and/or you’ll looking for a good quality of life than you’re gonna be better off elsewhere. Sadly, ClayCo doesn’t have either!

whatever

March 24th, 2011
5:22 pm

The reason you go after the parents is because there are many, Notice I did not say all, But many parents who do not care where there kids are or what they are doing. Just as long as it does not affect their life or lifestyle. (Makes one wonder why they become parents in the first place.) The only way these parents will care what their child is doing is to impact the parents too. either by large fines or a few night s in Jail. If by the third offence they should be turned into child welfare for failure to control and provide for their children. Since children learn how to parent from the way they are raised. can you imagine a few years down the road when the children of those who are allowed to run wild and free with no supervision. What will their kids be like? I sometimes wonder if orphanages would be a better environment than an uncaring parent, who believe they should be their child’s “friend ” rather than the parent.. The child is not taught an form of responsibility or self worth by care for nothing parents.

Brick House in FP

March 24th, 2011
5:28 pm

Jborodawg :Which brings up… Brick House “That’s the point. Not everybody can drive their kids to a rec center or ball field.”

…I made a lot exceptions for parents, but when I see single working Moms carrying their child to practice and never fail to be on time, for every practice, I can’t excuse a Father & Mother that had rather use their time for themselves alone. I didn’t mind spending half of my own time for transporting my players, I couldn’t grasp the fact that the parents was not involved with the growth of their children.
If anyone have ever been involved with your local community youth activities, you should already know what I’m referring to.
..Certain of Clayton County was always known for it’s Youth Programs. I believe that it’s time to think about taking the Youth off of streets in this county and place them in our many Youth Programs, with the full support of their Parents. Make this a County Ordinance !!

Nospin

March 24th, 2011
5:41 pm

Tell The Truth

What in the world are you talking about? Its a fact. White people got scared, and moved out when African Americans started moving in. They left in droves as a matter of fact, and dumped their homes at cut rates. They were cowards, and yes some were racists. I personally witnessed the first black family to look at a home on my street in Forest Park(which was all white). Within seven days, almost the entire street put up Century 21 signs after seeing them. Then they started fleeing. That spread throughout the county leaving cheap living quarters, which were filled by poor, and working class blacks, and very few whites. With them went the tax base, the school system, businesses, etc.. It was the direct cause of Clayton Counties problems. Wannabe politicians with no qualifications moved in swiftly, and were voted in office by these new residents based solely on race. The results will last for decades.

Brick House in FP

March 24th, 2011
6:07 pm

How anyone Blame our problems on “White Flight”, when the construction of the fifth runaway, of the Airport, was a threat to property values in College Park, Riverdale, Forest Park, Morrow, and Lake City ?

This was a concern to everyone that lived on the northside of Clayton County, not just White Folks.

Has anyone taken a tour of Mountain View lately ? …Can you believe that Mountain View was once a City ?…..What happen ?

Rev Whiskey

March 24th, 2011
6:20 pm

So Commissioner Gail Hambrick is having meeting with constituients. by appointment only , Whats a matter – can’t stand the heat from a group – all wondering what you are hiding and why. Iis it easier to defuse a person or to tell them lies – when there are no witnesses?. What a waste of time.

And now Lil Vic wants his job back – guess selling insurance -selling cars and being Daddy Scotts do-boy don’t pay so good. do not come back -walking small. we don’t want you. We have outgrown you.

Jborodawg

March 25th, 2011
11:08 am

Brick House @ 5:28…kudos to you and bless your heart for being part of the solution.

Might I also add that school grounds could/should indeed be excellent places for kids to play…say, pickup football or softball games, etc. However, Clayco has gotten away from neighborhood schools for the most part…and the schools are so far from neighborhoods that many (most?) kids have to be bussed or driven. I’d rather we had 100-student neighborhood elementary schools than the shiny, new, “modern” 500-student edifices we have now. Neighborhood schools generally entail more pride and more parental involvement…two keys to quality education; AND recreational opportunities.

Jborodawg

March 25th, 2011
11:14 am

Roach…I agree totally. Hundreds of new subdivisions…are not “neighborhoods” and, yes, plenty of existing homes sit under-used or unused where a renewal of a perfectly good neighborhood could once again thrive and be “viable” as it were.

Long Gone

March 25th, 2011
11:35 am

Middle class moving leaving, lack of a County development plan, unrestricted home building, questionable mortgage loan practices that allowed those who had no business owning a home to buy, school board issues, and mortgage crisis all led to where Clayton County is. The only way for Clayton County to get better is to find a way to bring back the type of families who left – stable, educated, two-parent middle class households. I don’t see that happening in Clayton County for a long long time.