Should Clayton join MARTA?

Up for your consideration on the November 2 ballot is a non-binding referendum question asking whether Clayton county should become a full participant in MARTA by charging a sales tax in support of MARTA and the county’s public transportation needs.

How will you vote on the question of Clayton joining MARTA?

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Getting this referendum onto the ballot at all has not been an easy task. First, the Georgia 2020 Transportation Act passed (HB 277) earlier this year, giving the county permission to break its seven percent sales tax cap to pay for public transportation. Next, the General Assembly passed HB 1446 last April (sponsored by State Rep. Roberta Abdul-Salaam) so that a non-binding referendum could be placed on the July 20 primary ballot. Then due to Governor Sonny Perdue’s late signature on the bill, the referendum was postponed to the November ballot.  Finally, the Board of Commissioners missed their final opportunity in September to add this as a binding referendum to tomorrow’s ballot.

As per the AJC, this has basically become a vote to gauge citizen interest about whether or not we should join MARTA. If we vote favorably, then a binding referendum vote could come eventually, but the Legislature would first have to revise the law in 2011.

So, has your opinion changed about the necessity of public transportation in Clayton county since C-Tran’s demise? And has anybody seen Quick Transit lately?  Does it even still exist?

If you would like to connect with the Clayton community as a sponsor or vendor at the Grassroots Leadership Institute’s First Annual “Hands on Clayton” Empowerment Fair on Dec. 4 at Mundy’s Miill High School, please email sponsor@claytongaempowerment.org or vendor@claytongaempowerment.org or go to www.claytongaempowerment.org for more information.

106 comments Add your comment

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 3rd, 2010
2:24 pm

@ Daryl

You are crazy. There are the same knuckleheads doing the same things they were doing before in Clayton. It had nothing to do with C-Tran. When someone can me facts about transit bringing an area down please provide them. I guess you haven’t been through Buckhead lately have you? Please explain how MARTA will knock Clayton back down? It is already down. Why do you think the “Section 8″ people, as you call them, come here and not stay where MARTA is already at? There is cheap housing here. The only areas where there are nice areas are in South Clayton.

The facts show that transit is needed. Traffic is just too bad in the metro area. MARTA was suppose to be a 5 county transit system but even today it needs to cover the entire region. Just because you have transit doesn’t mean the area is going to turn into NY, Philly, or DC. The area isn’t even built like those cities. MARTA rail is going to be just like it is on all the outlying stations. It will be built for commuters who don’t want to drive into the city and there will be local bus routes to bring other to the stations too. This is going to spur new development bring more young professionals near the stations and more businesses to bring a live work and play environment. It’s not going to spur 20 story housing projects and bring guns and drugs!!

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 3rd, 2010
2:34 pm

….What Clayton County needs the most, is to become part of The State of Georgia; Instead of being The South Side of Atlanta.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 3rd, 2010
4:17 pm

….Bryan — MARTA supporter :”bring guns”
….Bryan; Clayton County already has “guns” and we even have our own Shooting Range in Forest Park.
….Don’t try to mix guns with drugs in the same breath : “bring guns and drugs!!”
…. I’m a Law Abiding Veteran, A State Firearm Licensed Gun Owner,and I might take offense to that remark.
……….Oscar “DoubleAction” Knight.

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 3rd, 2010
6:43 pm

@ LawAbidingVetRetired

That’s what we need, more GOP leadership to use and abuse the metro area while the rest of Georgia benefits. Hey, why don’t we just put Bush back in office too. That was a great 8 years huh? Let’s see… $4 a gallon gas prices, the crash in the economy, the Huricane Katrina rescue, and lets not forget Sept 11th! I think I’ll pass. To bad these poor folks in Georgia don’t know that if you aren’t rich these conservative methods don’t work. Unfortunately 90% of us fall in the NOT RICH category.

What does your link even prove? Free rides were given to those who didn’t have transportation. So what? They weren’t forced to use it were they? I guess they shouldn’t have offered it so that people who can vote and want transit here would be stuck without no voice and the backwards folks in ClayCO would get what they want huh?

oldtimer

November 3rd, 2010
7:19 pm

I just do not get why the democratic party gets a free ride with minority people. It seems nationally Black males are beginning to open their eyes.

oldtimer

November 3rd, 2010
7:20 pm

And Marta is so poorly run..who would want to be a part of it?

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 3rd, 2010
8:42 pm

Bryan — MARTA supporter: (( @ LawAbidingVetRetired ))
“Bush”,”gas prices”,”Huricane Katrina rescue”,”
Sept 11th”

Bryan; What does this have to do with my Law Abiding rights to own “guns” in Clayton County ? Your are drifting away from what you said, Don’t try to mix guns with drugs in the same breath : Bryan : “bring guns and drugs!!”
Quite dodging the bullets ! :)

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 3rd, 2010
8:48 pm

Bryan — MARTA supporter :” the backwards folks in ClayCO”

Bryan; Its been Called Clayton County, Ga, since 1961, when I first arrived, only the backward fools call it “Clayco” !

Black Rain

November 3rd, 2010
8:55 pm

Congrats to my man – LEE SCOTT! Great campaign! — uh — What? You lost? you big fat loser.

The area needs mass transit – it does not need MARTA. As long as MARTA is run by Fulton and Dekalb – it will not be welcomed outside the perimeter. The vote was to join MARTA – not a regional transit authority. C-TRAN showed us that this county could not support a bus system and the taxpayers of Georgia and the nation shouldn’t have to subsidize this county transportation.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 3rd, 2010
9:35 pm

Bryan — MARTA supporter :”Free rides were given to those who didn’t have transportation. So what?”

Bryan; Your got to added some more ingredients :
……“Eldrin Bell”
……“partnered”
…..”county ministers”
….“emphasize the importance”
…………………….Your Friend; DoubleAction

Daryl

November 3rd, 2010
9:41 pm

To Bryan above,

You can call me crazy, But a day is coming in America when people are going to realize that government intervention isn’t the “end all to be all…” People are now realizing that smaller government is what makes our country strong, An economy driven by a massive government sector can never prosper…Big government has been tried and failed so many times (Remember the USSR…how well did big government work out for them…?).

When we energize people to do for themselves, instead of making them dependent on the Welfare state, good things will happen….I also love it when people bash on Bush…He may not have been the brightest president, he may not have been as fiscally conservative as he should have, and he may not have put the clamps on some of his own adminsitration as well as could be…But the fact remains that when he left office, the unemployment rate was 8 perscent, he didn’t try to expand the government to astronomical proportions, and he definitely didn’t lower the diginity of the office by responding to every thing that he considered a personal insult or getting demeaned by going on shows like Jon Stewart..

You can keep on believing in the change Obama was supposed to bring, and the promise of big government while the rest of us will continue working on bringing viable solutions to Clayton Counties problems. HINT: Public transportation definitely ain’t one of the solutions…

Loosers

November 3rd, 2010
9:53 pm

Well the typical poor, ignorant, illiterate, Clayton County voters again voted for morons, and Marta. Thats why they stay poor. Maybe Clayton County is a good place for them to stay. At least if they stay here they won’t drag down the rest of the state. And to the Marta Union man above, don’t hold your breath waiting on Marta coming in here. Public trans funding is about to disappear.

Kim

November 3rd, 2010
10:01 pm

No Marta! I votes NO NO NO NO! It brings Clayton down! If you can”t aford a car leave Clayton. Let it stay in the city where it belongs.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 3rd, 2010
10:12 pm

…I arrived in Clayton County in a car and I will leave in a hearse. I don’t see MARTA in my Crystal Ball or on my Two Headed Coin; My cards tells me the same outlook.
……..Oscar

getreal

November 3rd, 2010
11:12 pm

Here we go, let’s step in the 21st century; the Marta will make Clayton county better it will make a quicker and safer way to get to Atlanta which is needed for a lot of surrounding cities. What do you think makes nyc a great multi-billion dollar city? It’s easy to get to because of the subway system. You folks are fighting the future and crippling the growth of Atlanta and the surrounding cities. 75% of Atlantans drive 75% and rising! We are going to have a pollution issue and think about it; the more you drive the more chances you have of getting into an accident! And what about your childrens future? And let’s put something to bed because I think this is a lot of folks biggest fear. Marta will bring bad elements to the neighborhood and they will break into your house and steal your 45 inch plasma TV and jump on the train and ride off into the sunset. Hmmm I rode the subways of nyc for many years and never saw anyone jump on the train with a large unboxed TV or any large box of anything, plus you can’t get it through the turn style and it is not allowed. Also nothing in the papers or on the news and believe me you hear all types of stores in nyc. Plus statics has shown when someone comes to rob your house they are more than likely in a vehicle. Folks your fears are not realistic and you are cutting of your nose to spite your face. The infrastructure is viable to any city let’s not stand in the way. The marta is needed in smyrna and marietta etc. we need an alternative let’s stop stifling the growth of the cities come on people!

getreal

November 3rd, 2010
11:14 pm

Here we go, let’s step in the 21st century; the Marta will make Clayton county better it will make a quicker and safer way to get to Atlanta which is needed for a lot of surrounding cities. What do you think makes nyc a great multibillion dollar city? It’s easy to get to because of the subway system. You folks are fighting the future and crippling the growth of Atlanta and the surrounding cities. 75% of Atlantans drive 75% and rising! We are going to have a pollution issue and think about it; the more you drive the more chances you have of getting into an accident! And what about your childrens future? And let’s put something to bed because I think this is a lot of folks biggest fear. Marta will bring bad elements to the neighborhood and they will break into your house and steal your 45 inch plasma TV and jump on the train and ride off into the sunset. Hmmm I rode the subways of nyc for many years and never saw anyone jump on the train with a large unboxed TV or any large box of anything, plus you can’t get it through the turn style and it is not allowed. Also nothing in the papers or on the news and believe me you hear all types of stores in nyc. Plus statics has shown when someone comes to rob your house they are more than likely in a vehicle. Folks your fears are not realistic and you are cutting of your nose to spite your face. The infrastructure is viable to any city let’s not stand in the way. The marta is needed in smyrna and marietta etc. we need an alternative let’s stop stifling the growth of the cities come on people!

Tell The Truth

November 4th, 2010
7:17 am

The people have spoken & even though I don’t agree that this is what’s best for the county most voters do. Now the question of whether we should pay more taxes for this is another question that was not on the ballot. I’m not going to lament about this or who we got for governor. I am of the opinion that Georgia’s lack of political sophistication is just a result of our educational standards or lack thereof. So the question to those of us that don’t agree with bringing MARTA to Clayton is what are you willing to do to keep it from happening? I’m not willing to give this fight too much more energy if this is what the majority of voters want in our community.

Out of Here

November 4th, 2010
7:57 am

Just glad my job is leaving Atlanta after 36 years as a Clayton County resident. I for one have had enough.

WTF?

November 4th, 2010
9:12 am

Bush…He may not have been the brightest president, he may not have been as fiscally conservative as he should have, and he may not have put the clamps on some of his own adminsitration as well as could be…But the fact remains that when he left office, the unemployment rate was 8 perscent

Funny how you did not (or refused to) mention the astronomical surplus George Bush had when he took office and how much money he squandered during his 8 year reign of terror. That’s a fact too you know.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 4th, 2010
9:36 am

…..People have a lot to contend with, now days, especially with financial hardships, job security, rising costs of living expenses, taxes, Health & life insurance, Utility Bills, and the overall cost of existing.
…..How in the world can our emotions take on anymore stress ?
…..The days of our freedoms will be short lived. if we don’t demand for our Government to do away with the wasteful spending.
…. The pay off for MARTA, in Clayton County, will be an expensive waste of taxes.

Straight No Chaser

November 4th, 2010
11:20 am

@Bryan — MARTA supporter

Bryan apparently you didn’t understand the fine print when you voted yes for Marta. It was a NON-BINDING referendum which means it was merely a consultative or advisory vote. Respectfully I will have to say you are politically ignorant and don’t know how to read Tuesdays vote. Repubs now hold EVERY constitutional office in GA along with that they are the party in power that will redraw voting districts lines in 2011. Maybe just maybe will the democratic stronghold in Clayco be broken.

Alan R.

November 4th, 2010
12:14 pm

It’s always amusing to pop into these posts, and see the same group of old world thinkers rant about how people in Clayton County don’t need mass transportation.

Wake up, people! This is 2010, not 1950. This is Atlanta, not Molena. Take your small-town thinking, and get with the times.

Mass transit is a necessity. I voted yes, as well as everyone else I knew. It’s a shame this referendum on the ballot wasn’t binding.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 4th, 2010
1:13 pm

Alan R. : ((”This is Atlanta, not Molena. Take your small-town thinking, and get with the times”))

Alan R.; Clayton County is No Part of The City of Atlanta, it never has been and never will be. This is the kind of thinking that separates our county from the rest the State.
((”Take your small-town thinking, and get with the times”))

‘When in Rome. Do as the Romans do’

Show some respect for those that invested their hard work and earnings to make Clayton County a desirable place to relocate, at one time. Leave the attitudes to those that has lost the way living, due to the radical changes that have already taken place during the last decade.

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 4th, 2010
1:20 pm

@ LawAbidingVetRetired

Half the stuff you said didn’t even make sense. Let me make it clear… ILLEGAL GUNS! Not people who have registered guns. Here’s a product of Clayton County!!

@ Daryl

I actually agree that big gov’t is not the right thing for all situation all the time but there are time when gov’t needs to step in. This is one of those times. This country has fallen apart because of Bush.

WTF? is correct. Bush had (I may be off of the exact number a little) a 127 billion dollar surplus that Bill Clinton left. He blew that and put us in almost a trillion dollars debt fighting a war that had no purpose and letting the economy crumble because he was letting the big companies basically do what they wanted and make bad investments with no overseeing by gov’t. Look what happened!

It’s funny how people Obama bash. This man came into office facing the worst economy since the Great Depression and people expect him to have the economy completely turned around and everyone working and gas prices at 95 cent in 2 years when it took Bush 8 years to mess it up. Now because people are so impatient they have voted for the same GOP folks that have the same ideas that got us in this mess!

To get back on topic transit is needed… bottom line. People need to read the statement by getreal. People are so scared of changed, especially this older conservative people that think they are in the old Atlanta. This is a region of close to 6 million! This area is going to keep growing, including ClayCO. If this area gets another 2 million, which is an actually projection in the next 10 years and all of them just drive because there is no transit option what do you think that is going to do to the quality of living? What about jobs? What about the economy? People use your heads. Transit is vital to every major city and it’s suburbs. It’s not going to be until the hwys are parking lots that people are going to want another option. Why do you think the people that were leaders in the 70s wanted mass transit. They knew that the population was going to keep growing and knew that a rail system was vital. Can you imagine if Cobb, Gwinett, and Clayton got on board then? We’d have a great rail system to get us to every major financial, medical, and shopping district in the metro area with great bus service to other areas. Now think of where Atlanta would be without the MARTA system that they currently have. Atlanta wouldn’t be called the capital of the south please believe that!!

Bottom line is that people voted and MARTA is wanted in ClayCO. Even the people that won’t ride will benefit from having less cars on the roads. Let’s move forward people and if the people in ClayCO that don’t want transit they maybe YOU should move out to the woods and country where transit isn’t needed and you won’t have to worry about even having MARTA or any transit system coming out there. Stop enjoying the benefits of being around a major city and at the same time trying to hold it back!! There are plenty of back woods in Georgia for all of ya’ll!!

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 4th, 2010
1:45 pm

@ Straight No Chaser

I understand it completely. I understand that people want it and that now this gives the option to but it on the next ballot for a BINDING vote. Redraw all you want people that want it are still going to vote yes and those that don’t are still going to vote no and if more people within the borders of Clayton vote yes then the county will pay for a service that is sorely needed. Not once did I say that MARTA will be in the county tomorrow. I said that people want it here, which is what your “consultative or advisory vote” proved.

Thank goodness there are people like Alan R. that understand the importance of having mass transit in a major metro area. Straight No Chaser your thoughts and ideas seem watered down. I’m sending that drink back to the bar along with all your other friends that want to be stuck in the 50s and 60s with their thinking.

BnB

November 4th, 2010
1:45 pm

to WTF – reign of terror?? I remember 911 – but that was the Muslims terrorists. I remember tax cuts for everyone – including the lowest tax bracket being set to 10% – your great Obama and friends, were fine with letting the 10% bracket go to 15% that is a 50 percent increse on the poorest wage earners. The statement from the Great One – that no one’s taxes who earns under $250 000 a year, IS A LIE. I remember that for most of the Bush years unemployment was in the 4 to 5 percent range. I remember the Democrats denying for years that there was anything wrong with Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae. I remember the Democrats pushing the banks to loan money to those whose income did not qualify them for a loan – and those people defaulted – and the primary cause of this recession was the collapse of those bad loans and the foolishness of the govt allowing them to be bunched together and sold as commodities.

The real reign of terror was just stopped on Tues Nov 2.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 4th, 2010
2:31 pm

Bryan — MARTA supporter : ((”Half the stuff you said didn’t even make sense. Let me make it clear… ILLEGAL GUNS! Not people who have registered guns. Here’s a product of Clayton County!!”))

Bryan; Now you have changed your words from “guns’ to “ILLEGAL GUNS!” and I don’t expect you to understand anything that has to do with logic or reasoning, because you speak about nothing but forked tongue nonsense.

WTF?

November 4th, 2010
2:32 pm

Hey BnB republicans like to conveniently forget and LIE about the fact that President Obama walked in the door with a ton of problems to solve from the prior administration. It takes more than two years to fix an 8 year hot mess.

on President Obama’s worst day where he effs up in the worst possible way, he could never, ever be as bad as Bush Junior was.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 4th, 2010
3:03 pm

Bryan — MARTA supporter : (( ” Atlanta would be without the MARTA system that they currently have. Atlanta wouldn’t be called the capital of the south please believe that!’))

….Bryan — MARTA supporter; I remember Atlanta when it only had Trolley Cars and the Tracks still exist today in many parts the Atlanta outlaying Suburbs, like West End, Sylvan Hills, Lakewood, Little Five Points, Grant Park, and many other communites surrounding Atlanta.
…Many of These Areas had their own Movie Theaters and there are a few that still exist today.
…I grew up in Atlanta and these are some of the communities that I grew up in.
….I also remember when there wasn’t a MARTA, it was called The Atlanta Transit Authority.
….I also remember when the Blue Bird Buses came to our Atlanta Suburbs; We called these Buses “City Slickers”.
….I can still catch the rail system into Atlanta by going to the College Park Rail Station.
….My Home is located in the most northern end of Clayton County, where I could be closer to my roots in Atlanta.
…..I suggest that you do the same, if desire to be closer to Atlanta.
………Your Friend & Distant Neighbor; Oscar “DoubleAction” Knight

BnB

November 4th, 2010
5:20 pm

stay in you fantasy world WTf . if you saw the real world – a heart attack would be emminent

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 4th, 2010
5:29 pm

LOL… look at the “Vent” section of Clayton. People are in such shock like ClayCo doesn’t need a transit service here or something. Like this county isn’t connected to the busiest airport in the world and has no transit service to it. Like the are part of the metropolitan Atlanta area… not only that but part of the big 5 counties! The first 2 letters in MARTA are for METROPOLITAN ATLANTA… Clayton you are part of METROPOLITAN ATLANTA and one of the 5 most populated AND you were part of the orginal plan. Why don’t you be the first of the remaining 3 to step up and say “We need to be united as a region and have a transit system that does the same!” This is a big step in getting Clayton efficient and reliable public transit and a way to push the state to help with funding operations of MARTA so that it can have the money to be the system that everyone wants and that the region needs it to be!

Foresight

November 4th, 2010
7:23 pm

Believe me, after the next two years of republicians in the house. The now famous word “backlash” will hit the republicians like it hit the democrats in 2010. This year all angry old folks hit the polls in rovels; and we all know how they look! In 2012, all the youth will come back to the polls, like always in a presidential election year. Enjoy it so-called conservatives while you can; you only have 20 months. 2012 is the year of the “Youth Revolution” and 2012 liberalism—and its more profound than 2010 liberalism!

Just Thinking

November 4th, 2010
9:18 pm

I say vote no.What if all the working people and property owners left the county? Who would keep the Poor Farm operating?

Roach

November 4th, 2010
11:25 pm

Yo, Daryl–it’s OK if somebody else is better at something than you are. Learn from it. You can’t solve a problem until you acknowledge it. Our transit stinks, and other places do it better. Why do you find that threatening? Idealism created this country–if you hate idealism, then you hate America.

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 5th, 2010
8:14 am

Bryan — MARTA supporter;

(( “Transit is vital to every major city and it’s suburbs.”))

…There Is no major cities in Clayton County and Clayton County is not the suburbs of Atlanta.

….”ClayCO” ?

……………Its people, like yourself, that made our neighbors relocate to greener pastures.
..Oscar

HLS

November 5th, 2010
12:52 pm

Again – listen closely — this was for joining MARTA – not a regional Trainsit system. A regional system would have representation from all counties and municipalities in the region. As long as Atlanta and Fulton and Dekalb run the show – the rest of the surrounding counties will fight to remain apart and not to capitulate to the good-ole-boy jobs-projects and ill-management they have seen MARTA perpetuate since its inception.

airport worker

November 5th, 2010
1:14 pm

foreskin, nice try. obummer gone in 2012. bank on it.

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 5th, 2010
1:33 pm

@ LawAbidingVetRetired

I appreciate the history lesson about Atlanta. Not even being sarcastic. I did know about the Atlanta Transit Authority. I enjoyed the info about Blue Bird buses and the “City Slickers.” But the fact of your story was that all those thing aren’t there anymore and that the service was changed to improve transit in the city. Obviously the Atlanta of then isn’t the same Atlanta now. When the leaders created MARTA it wasn’t for just Atlanta like most of those other services. It was to connect the entire region and has always been the mission. It’s funny the other 3 big counties don’t want MARTA but all have at one point developed their own transit service that is far less efficient than MARTA and their main purpose was to connect to MARTA to bring people into ATLANTA!! Look at CCT and GCT. Look at what C-Tran was doing. They all brought people to MARTA. Why not just allow MARTA to do what it was designed to do? Why have 4 different transit agencies with 4 different agendas operating in an area that only needs one. Then you wonder why there is no connectivity in the area!

As far as your comment about the major city and the suburbs you are right there isn’t any major cities in ClayCo and never will be. Atlanta is the major city of the area. Your comment about ClayCo not being a suburb though is completely ludicrous. Please explain how ClayCo is part of the metro area but not a suburb?

You are much older than me but you are going to have to face facts. Things chance. Atlanta is changing and transit is needed in more areas. The leaders of Atlanta at the time were thinking about the future of Atlanta when MARTA was created. Now we have a bunch of people that don’t want transit for reasons that don’t even make sense. I can even understand the higher taxes argument but because of increased crime and bringing a bad element? People get over yourselves!!

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 5th, 2010
2:00 pm

@ Just Thinking

This is the problem right here why people don’t want transit. It is the idea that transit is just for the poor. So I guess the Xpress buses coming into the county are just for the poor too huh? If you look at the people on MARTA, especially the train they are mostly middle to upper class people who work and go to school. Are there poor people on the buses and trains… of course, but it’s not JUST for the poor people that can’t afford a car. I have an uncle that lives in the suburbs of Philly and drives to catch the PATCO train into the city every work day. He makes well over 90K a year but see no point of driving into the city when he can just take the train into the city and hop the SEPTA bus to work.

Wake up people!

Bryan -- MARTA supporter

November 5th, 2010
2:06 pm

@ HLS

If the other counties join don’t you think they would have a say so on how MARTA is operated? They would have as much control as any other county that joined or is already apart of MARTA.

@ airport worker

Obama is the best thing that has happened to the country since Bill Clinton. What are our other options? Sarah Palin? Mind you she is actually a nice looking woman but I don’t want someone who can pass for a pornstar AND not intelligent running this country.

@ Foresight

I completely agree with you!

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 5th, 2010
3:27 pm

….Clayton County was once a place where city dwellers could get a taste of what Georgia was all about. We lost a lot because of the constant expansion of “The Airport”. The Schools that I attended was completely buried, along with many communities and nothing is left except memories. The people that I was went to school with, is scattered throughout Clayton, Henry, and Fayette County and I haven’t seen any of one of them in many years.
…Expansion and Growth of a county should be controlled, but Clayton County, it was always forced upon the residents and we never had any say so in the matter.
…Now we have “new residents” that wants what they had in the city ? …We had the alternative, but “new residents” would not lend their support in maintaining any interest of our local businesses. At one time, in this county, we had about 11 movie theaters, scattered throughout our county, two drive in movie screens, Shopping Centers, and I don’t know many Hardware Stores and Home Improvement Stores.
…Maybe we was too busy expanding the county, we completely forgot about what we already had at our reach.
…Its very hard for me to write a lot at one time, because I have Aphasia, but I do my best to relay my thoughts, experiences, and what I’ve seen in our county.
…..I like having the option of living as close to city and at same time, having the peacefulness in enjoying the taste of Georgia at the same time.
…..We will not have our rightful place in Georgia, until we learn to stop living in the shadows of Atlanta.
….I still have a strong connection to Atlanta and About fives years, I met the grandson of the doctor that help to bring me into this world at Piedmont Hospital.
….I love my home but my roots was in the city; However, when I have a crowd of people standing around to hear me speak, just to hear my Southern Dialect,it was time for me to go back where I my heritage is deeply rooted. My family was originally from South Georgia, all the way from Fayetteville, Columbus, Plains, and all parts in between.
…Lets bring Clayton County back to Georgia !

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 5th, 2010
4:06 pm

…Bryan — MARTA supporter : (( “Obama is the best thing that has happened to the country since Bill Clinton.”))

….Bryan; Bill was the one to sign the NAFTA AGREEMENTS to do dilute our American Production jobs, He also signed several anti-gun bills to dilute our Second Amendments Rights, and Bill Clinton also lied under oath, which started Impeachment proceedings against him. Let not forget how Clinton ignored The Attack on The U.S.S. Cole, where he made the claims that Bin Laden was responsible for the attack and he failed to act responsibly as our The Commander in Chief of Our Armed Forces.

Lynn

November 5th, 2010
9:34 pm

If most venting are agianst Marta or mass transit…..How did it pass? Start voting facts and on feelings

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 6th, 2010
1:57 am

….Bryan — MARTA supporter ; ((”@ LawAbidingVetRetired “))
….”Your comment about ClayCo not being a suburb though is completely ludicrous. Please explain how ClayCo is part of the metro area but not a suburb?”

….”ludicrous” ? Bryan — MARTA supporter; Don’t use words that don’t understand the meaning of.
…….Do you just read what see in the rental adds, Realtor brochures or the News ?

….Clayton County is part of the “Metropolitan Area” by Location only, which means, its part of the inner loop that surrounds the Area around Atlanta; In other words, its within reasonable driving distance.
….The suburban communities (Suburbs) of Atlanta is located on the outskirts of Atlanta, such as Northside Drive, Monroe Drive, West End, Cascade Road,Bankhead Highway, Glenwood, Little Five Points, Sylvan Hills, University Ave., Lakewood Heights, and other suburban communities in within the city limits of Atlanta.These are the areas that the MARTA Transit service was meant to serve.
….Clayton County is not a suburban community of The City Of Atlanta. Clayton County is self contained, self structured, interdependently woven part of The State of Georgia. We have our infrastructure and in no way are we dependent on the City of Atlanta to make our decisions for us.

……(( ” When the leaders created MARTA it wasn’t for just Atlanta ” ))
……(( ” their main purpose was to connect to MARTA to bring people into ATLANTA!! ” ))

……” ludicrous” That is what is called hilarious. The Leaders of Atlanta has no jurisdictions over Clayton County and neither does their Leaders.

…….Some from signs of our previous election, Most or our Voters in this county would rather surrender to the ethics, lopsided opinions, polices, and ordinances of the Atlanta Government.

……This is not The City of Atlanta, Our county is a part of The State Of Georgia, and I will not surrender my freedoms to a separate entity of Government; Not for you or anyone else in this county.

………Your Friend & Distant Neighbor; Oscar

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 6th, 2010
11:13 am

……The Sad Part of living in Clayton County, right now, is 80 % percent of the residents thinks the same as “Bryan — MARTA supporter”; This is very SCARY !!.

…..Election Summary Report
Clayton County
State of Georgia General Election
November 2, 2010
Summary For Jurisdiction Wide, , All Races
Unofficial and Incomplete

US SENATOR
Total
Number of Precincts 58
Precincts Reporting 58 100.0 %
Total Votes 58631

JOHNNY ISAKSON (I) (R) 10864 – 18.53%
MICHAEL THURMOND (D) 46993 – 80.15%
CHUCK DONOVAN (L) 733 – 1.25%

GOVERNOR
Total
Number of Precincts 58
Precincts Reporting 58 100.0 %
Total Votes 59807

NATHAN DEAL (R) 9670 – 16.17%
ROY E. BARNES (D) 48235 – 80.65%
JOHN H. MONDS (L) 1828 – 3.06%

LT GOVERNOR
Total
Number of Precincts 58
Precincts Reporting 58 100.0 %
Total Votes 59606

L.S.CASEY CAGLE (I)(R) 10615 – 17.81%
CAROL PORTER (D) 47959 – 80.46%
DAN BARBER (L) 1011 – 1.70%

SECRETARY OF STATE
Total
Number of Precincts 58
Precincts Reporting 58 100.0 %
Total Votes 59511

BRIAN KEMP (I) R 10267 – 17.25%
G. SINKFIELD (D) 47973 – 80.61%
DAVID CHASTAIN (L) 1204 – 2.02%

US HOUSE 13
Total
Number of Precincts 56
Precincts Reporting 56 100.0 %
Total Votes 57518

MIKE CRANE( R) 10443 – 18.16%
DAVID SCOTT (I) D 47005 – 81.72%

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 6th, 2010
1:53 pm

….Lynn :( ( “If most venting are agianst Marta or mass transit…..How did it pass?” ))

…A much better question would be, how did this happen ?

….Election Summary Report
Clayton County
State of Georgia General Election
November 2, 2010
Summary For Jurisdiction Wide, , All Races
Unofficial and Incomplete

….STATE HOUSE 77
Total
Number of Precincts 11
Precincts Reporting 11 – 100.0 %
Total Votes 9599

..JAMES BROWN (R) 1074 – 11.19%

..DARRYL JORDAN (I) D 8515 – 88.71%

Me again

November 6th, 2010
3:12 pm

(((The Sad Part of living in Clayton County, right now, is 80 % percent of the residents thinks the same as “Bryan — MARTA supporter”; This is very SCARY !!.)))

It shows me that the county continues on its downward spiral, and will continue,that way, until a totally different class of people move here, who produce, rather than just use resources. The ones who got the votes, are the ones who convinced the non producers, that they will make sure they can stay non producers. Anyone who votes based on who some mega church preacher told him to vote for, does not deserve voting rights. David Scott comes in once a year and does his little health fair, and basically nothing else, but these voters think he is the best thing since sliced bread. All he has to do(and the other democratic candidates) is convince these voters that republicans are their enemy. Until the voters wise up and grow a mind of there own, instead of being a puppet, their lives will be substandard, and I see no change in sight.

Foresight

November 6th, 2010
8:02 pm

LawAbidingVetRetired, you’re an old. I’m a “Recently LawAbidingVetRetired, you and your Clayton of Clayton has come and passed! Hers’s the new vision–”UPWARD”! Thanks for your service!

Just Thinking

November 6th, 2010
8:43 pm

@ Bryan ..Marta Supporter

I am glad to hear your uncle that makes 90k a year still rides the Patco train and the Septa bus to work . Using Philly as an example isn’t a good one. Why would someone want to lower our county standard down to Philly ’s level of poverty and crime rate. Wake up Bryan . Clayton County needs residents with jobs and homes in order to support any form of public transportation. Who will support and fund the Poor Farm .

LawAbidingVetRetired

November 7th, 2010
6:35 pm

…Foresight; What do you call “OLD” and “Passed” ?

….I’m only 59 years old and my time is far from passing.
….I’m old enough to know that with “Age comes Wisdom”.
………..Your Devoted Friend & Neighbor; Oscar.