More options for C-Tran Riders

Although C-Tran service will end Wednesday, March 31,  as scheduled, thanks to the passage of House Bill 1393 riders have hope that it will eventually be restored. However, Clayton county voters now get to decide whether or not to approve an extra penny sales tax in order to fund C-Tran service in the future. Commissioner Sonna Singleton commented on 11 Alive News that 5,000 C-Tran riders will be affected, although 270,000 Clayton residents help pay for the service.

Despite the FTA’s refusal to fund new Xpress routes aimed at C-Tran riders, there are still commuter options available as several areas of Atlanta such as downtown, midtown and Buckhead have transporation management associations eager to help riders find clean commuting options to work and school.

I have read on this blog and elsewhere that some rode C-Tran in order to save gas and avoid vehicle wear and tear. For those who have access to a car and can partner with other riders, carpooling is an option. Sign up with RideSmart to connect with commuters that work and live near you, and share similar work hours.

Another choice is vanpooling, which currently operates a route departing from the JC Penney outlet in Forest Park. According to the Web site they are open to starting new routes and typically, 7-15 riders are needed to create one.

“The cost to ride the van varies, and the route and final destination are decisions made by the group of commuters who will ride and drive the van. The commuters end up operating the van in a way that is mutually agreed upon among the riders, within certain rules set by the van provider,” says Sara Milton, Project Manager of Central Atlanta Progress, Inc.

Which commuter option would you consider in lieu of C-Tran?

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There are three existing Xpress routes available for those who can get to a park and ride lot. The closest for most C-Tran riders would probably be the #442 (Riverdale to Downtown Atlanta), but the #440 (Hampton-Jonesboro to Downtown Atlanta) and #441 (Jonesboro to Midtown Atlanta) are also possibilities. Xpress expects crowding on these routes once C-Tran ends, and will try to accommodate passengers with any spare coaches they may have available.

All of these options qualify for the Clean Air Campaign’s Commuter Rewards Program, where riders who log in daily are randomly selected each month to win $25 gift cards for using clean commuting options regularly. According to Milton, Carpool Rewards winners are not randomly chosen - as long as both carpool partners log in their rides daily online, they will get a $40 or $60 gift card for 3 or more person carpools.

129 comments Add your comment

bigdogears

March 29th, 2010
10:51 am

Kudos to Commissioner Singleton stating her case and to the whole commission (except Eldrin) for standing there ground! This is not 1st grade. You shouldn’t penalize the whole class for something done by 1 person and you don’t tax 270,000 residents for the decisions of 5000.

stanthefireman

March 29th, 2010
11:00 am

Put it to Vote !!!! I am willing to pay more for the school system BUT not C-Tran !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clayton resident

March 29th, 2010
11:15 am

I agree let Clayton residents vote on this.

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al

March 29th, 2010
12:01 pm

I am not willing to pay for a tax increase for anything and surely NOT for C-Tran. Let’s say NO to an increase in sale tax and C-Tran for once and for ALL. A big fat “NO”….Enough already!!!!

worldrimroamer

March 29th, 2010
12:17 pm

Listen up, Brainiacs: The problem is not that 270,000 pay taxes for it and only 5,000 use it. The problem is that ONLY 5,000 ARE USING IT! Duh! Hello!?? There is not one single mass-transit system on Earth that is not subsidized by tax monies, and tax monies also fund Interstates, bridges, airports, hospitals, public parks, museums, schools (hey, I don’t have any children, but do I mind paying school taxes? NO!). If these 21-mpg SUV-driving spoiled yuppie idiots parked their ridiculous, environmentally devastating monstrosities and used mass transit (like they do in Paris, London, New York, Boston, San Fransisco, Moscow, Amsterdam, Zurich, Rome — almost every city everywhere except for the cesspool faux “cities” like Dallas and Atlanta and Birmingham, then we wouldn’t have the problem of 270,000 v. 5,000, would we?

All For CC

March 29th, 2010
12:21 pm

Clayton County needs mass transit if it is have any chance to grow and prosper. One of the things any major employer will look at before locating a plant is transportation, another is the school system. HB 1218 would have given us a chance at a 21st century regional transportation system. MARTA is at best an under funded mismanaged early 20th century system with a narrow focus.

The County Commission said that C-Tran costs the taxpayers of Clayton County $18 Million. HB 1393 will allow the voters to decide if they want to join MARTA.
A 1% sales tax would generate $48 Million. Before I would vote for such a tax I would demand assurances that the extra $30 Million is going be spent in Clayton County (Fat Chance). Marta has been running a $120 Million deficit I sincerely doubt they will pass up the opportunity for a Clayton County bail out. Watch for a big PR campaign, track who funds it.

MARTA is not the answer!

My two cents...

March 29th, 2010
2:30 pm

Hear this: The state will not have a substantive conversation about transportation. Now explain to me how CTRAN taking residents up to the local HotWing place to work is going to attract businesses.

It is simple economics. We can not afford CTRAN.

sn nash

March 29th, 2010
2:36 pm

Obviously none of you people against the tax increase in order to save C-Tran are Clayton County residents. If you are, you are fooling yourselves. Do you have any idea how bad it will get if people cant get to work? There are already enough desperados out here breaking into homes and robbing people at gunpoint. Imagine those who are capable of the same but have a job that keeps them from going that route. Desperate situations can invoke much violence and discord. Some things are worth paying for. If something isnt done to keep C-Tran running Clayton County will be a war zone before long.

gttim

March 29th, 2010
3:24 pm

Everybody pays for roads and bridges, yet not everybody drives. Everybody pays for public schools, yet not everybody has kids. Everybody pays for airports, yet not everybody flies. Government taxes for these things, and the public uses what it needs. Trying to just opt out of what you do not use is not how it works.

SA

March 29th, 2010
3:58 pm

If you build it they will come. If you take it away, they will leave. Not only do I vote we eliminate C-Tran for good but I vote we get rid of HUD housing, rentals, pawn shops, half of the businesses on Tara Blvd. and their like across the county and everything else that attracts these degenerates. In fact, if you do not have a college education, certification, or trade skill, are over 35 and you rent, you should be forced to leave too.

bigdogears

March 29th, 2010
4:11 pm

I don’t have any children but I do mind paying more in taxes for a bus system that only helps to reduce my own way of life. ClayCo. is not Boston or NYC and does not need mass transit. Atlanta needs ClayCo. to have mass transit so they can continue to dump on us!

How does Peachtree City continue to attract businesses without a bus service? Maybe it’s there schools!

sn nash: You’re not scaring anybody! Some things are worth paying for but C-Tran isn’t one of them. Good schools, now that’s worth paying for. That’s why parents will pay more for a house in a good school district.

NoWay

March 29th, 2010
4:53 pm

If this is put up to vote, it will LOSE resoundingly.

Annie

March 29th, 2010
5:54 pm

Wow, I just love all those comments agreeing with tax icreases. Like all those poor people in Dekalb county living in apartments agreeing with property tax increases. I understand that you all came from poverty stricken, disfunctional families but it is never too late to learn: in this country you are free to pay for causes you believe in. If you really care so much than pay for it, but do not force us to pay for your transportation and for your childs education. Oh, I know its easier to run your mouth than actualy do something.

Monique

March 29th, 2010
7:47 pm

I know the perfect spot for a new Xpress line. On the corner of Southlake Pkwy. & Mt. Zion Rd. right across the street from the Shell Gas Station and the Lay-Z-Boy. That lot has been empty for years.

Janay

March 29th, 2010
7:48 pm

I am a Clayton resident and I do NOT want the bus service. Get rid of it and if you need the bus and must leave then go!! I especially do not want a 1% tax hike either. Definitely NOT!!

No surprise!

March 29th, 2010
9:51 pm

Bring on the vote! It does not stand a chance! And “worldrimroamer”, you are a jealous person. If you had excelled in school, worked hard, you too could have money to ride in a Hummer(If thats what you wanted). But obviously you did not make it. That is not our fault. We were working, and studying, while you were ???????

ASimpleTruth

March 29th, 2010
10:11 pm

Just say NO to CTRAN. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

CTRAN is a drain on the county’s finances. Many people who use CTRAN are also drains on our society (crime, poor parenting, gov’t dependant, etc).

Certain elected leaders allowed these people to move here to increase their voter base. I say, let’s return the favor of them trashing Clayton, and vote out all incumbants this year and in 2012. Until the voters rise up and votes these clowns out, nothing is ever going to change.

Like Obama said, its time for change!

Sick Of It All

March 29th, 2010
10:13 pm

Bottom line CTran needs to go. If it doesn’t then the current politicians should, starting with Eldrin Bell. Eldrin knew what he was doing when he arranged to dump Atlanta’s problems on us & it has cost Clayton County the quality of living that it once had. Now he wants to do another back door deal to help bail out Marta.

Someone above used Peachtree City as an example. I personally wouldn’t mind paying more taxes or having the cost to live in Clayton increased along the same lines as Peachtree City……if we got the quality of life that Peachtree City has. What I don’t want to do, is subsidize a cesspool like Clayton currently is. I wish South Clayton could break off & become part of Fayette or Henry. I now see how North Fulton feels and understand why it wanted to become Milton County.

Resident

March 29th, 2010
10:20 pm

No I am not in agreement to a 1 cent sales tax. That will put us at 8% on goods that you buy. Do I think that mass transit is needed for some people, Yes. Do I think that I should help to pay for this system by way of a sales tax or property tax increase, No.

People will lose their jobs because of this, people will not have any other form of transportation because of this. However, I prefer my Commissioner (Singleton) to make a tough decision and come up with budget cuts and hopefully getting us back on track instead of playing the “good guy” like Bell is doing and not finding a solution to the problem of a budget deficit for the county.

Mike

March 30th, 2010
12:56 am

MARTA is in the debacle that it’s in because it is 1) the only transit system in the country that gets zero funding from the state and 2) even though the state gives zero funds to MARTA, it can tell MARTA how much it must spend for operational and capital improvements. MARTA was set up by the state to fail! Things would be a lot different if the state was on board, but we all know the rednecks running this state could care less about MARTA and Atlanta. I think it would be smart to extend MARTA into Clayton County. I don’t understand why every single county in the metro area has to have its own transit system. It’s too disconnected and it doesn’t work as well as one comprehensive system!

The Great 1

March 30th, 2010
1:21 am

C-tran simply does not work for the county. I feel for the people who are going to be affected by it’s closing, I do but if the funding is not there then it’s not there.

wwjd

March 30th, 2010
5:53 am

There sure are a lot of self-righteous and selfish people around here. They scare me. What’s the world coming to? What about people who are not fortunate enough to have a car, or people who care enough about the environment to use public transportation? You want them to move somewhere else? Wow!

Barbara

March 30th, 2010
6:05 am

I been here in Clayton county for 14 years and it is a mess now. I will pay for a 1 cent sales tax for the school system not for the bus. I see people walking down the street with beer cans and alcohol and it was a time you didn’t see that at all.There was a time when No one was walking down the streets I moved away from that. I’m sorry when the time come I’m voting no and I know others in my neighborhood also are voting no. I’m not a renter but a home owner and there are renters that don’t care about how they keep up the property and let there kids tear up the neighborhood and if you are the ones that do care you need to talk to those other people that are making in bad for you and others and also another problem having living assistant homes that don’t have a license and people that shouldn’t be out in a neighborhood with kids.

Shannon, M.Div.

March 30th, 2010
7:37 am

Annie, honestly. Landlords are not, by and large, generous souls who don’t pass the costs of property tax onto their tenants. People who live in apartments are well aware that they are voting for a modest increase in their rent when their lease rolls around again.

But let’s take you seriously. I believe in mass transit and not in roads. So by your words, I shouldn’t have to pay a penny for roads. Are we clear? Come to think of it, I shouldn’t have to pay a penny for the military, either. I’m a pacifist (because I’m a Christian). I also shouldn’t have to pay for abstinence-only education in schools, since it’s been shown to be ineffective at preventing pregnancy. Also, I should definitely NOT be paying any subsidies to the airline industry.

Are you really that blind? Do you believe that you hit a triple because you were born on third base? Have you no compassion, human decency, or common sense?

(For the record, my husband and I each do have a car, but if Atlanta had more comprehensive mass transit, I would LOVE to get rid of my car).

Give someone a fish, provide a meal for the day.
Teach someone to fish, and apparently they completely forget that they had to be taught to fish… and they’re determined that nobody else better learn to fish unless they cough up some fish first as payment because by God this is America and you learn to fish because your momma and daddy teach you or else you’re no good and get out.
Furthermore, ain’t nobody going to learn to fish while they’re hungry–but who cares? They aren’t like Us. If it’s a service needed by the middle class, then we’ll talk, but the working poor? For God’s sake, don’t offer them basic medical care and a way to get to work.

big

March 30th, 2010
8:31 am

Let’s clean up Clayton County and this is the chance to do so. No more C-Tran in this county. It’s been awful since it’s arrived a few years ago. Let’s get back to being a decent county, again. Let’s try to get bus services in Henry, Fayette and Coweta counties. I don’t think it will go over so well. We feel the same way in Clayton. Let’s stop the madness. I am tried of these folks who are trying to keep C-Tran, if you really want to do something buy my house, so I can’t get out of this county.

al

March 30th, 2010
8:34 am

Let’s clean up Clayton County and this is the chance to do so. No more C-Tran in this county. It’s been awful since it’s arrived a few years ago. Let’s get back to being a decent county, again. Let’s try to get bus services in Henry, Fayette and Coweta counties. I don’t think it will go over so well. We feel the same way in Clayton. Let’s stop the madness. I am tried of these folks who are trying to keep C-Tran, if you really want to do something buy my house, so I can’t get out of this county. See C-Tran go, go, go, go.

Mr. Nobody

March 30th, 2010
9:05 am

sn nash asks- “Do you have any idea how bad it will get if people cant get to work”?

UGHHH…is it not already bad? It’s Clayton County! What a joke!

OK, so let’s have a sales tax increase to keep C-Tran around, which in return will keep the 5000 people who rely on the public transportation from breaking into homes! Great logic! Have you ever considered running for office?

Mr. Nobody

March 30th, 2010
9:14 am

Shannon-typical hippy-liberal rant. Liberals are only generous with other peoples money.

Looking past Clayton County

March 30th, 2010
9:23 am

What makes Commisioner Singleton think I would waste my time in November to vote for a sales tax increase for C-tran. Clayton County is already eating me up in school taxes for a delapidated school system. Maybe, this is a wake up call for some folks to go and get an education and buy their own vehicles and stop depending on someone else. Clayton County is a Nightmare, yes I live in the county because I can’t sell my home…

Your invitation to leave is open

March 30th, 2010
9:24 am

Get the hell on all of you small minded, ignorant, country people who really believe the problem in Clayton County is the working poor and less fortunate. Guess what there are those who have more than you do and they view you in the same way that you are viewing those who have less than you.

That is why you stay in Clayton because you can not move to the upper class communities that you claim are better than your own community. You do not have the money to move but you keep trying to act as though you do. You would not fit in there because they will look down on you the same way you do others. Poor minded asses that you are. You are classless without culture. Get the hell on or just shut up!

retired teacher

March 30th, 2010
9:37 am

Taxes are already so high. I now live in a state with no income tax, no ad valorem tax, low property taxes, and only 8% sales tax…….You can only keep taxing people so much..they will move.

Clayton Resident

March 30th, 2010
9:52 am

I’m not going to apologize for wanting my neighborhood to improve. Hopefully the hard working C-Tran riders will stay but for the loser thug life ones that are dredges on society making the lifestyle in Clayton worse & keeping us on the nightly news, get ta steppin!

ahard

March 30th, 2010
9:57 am

Why the media are keep reporting that 65% of citizens are C-Tran riders. That’s not true. There are 270,000 in Clayton and only 5000 who ride C-Tran, according to my calculation that’s not 65% of residents. I say 265,000 citizens say NO to a sale tax increase and NO to the elected officials wanting to keep it. VOTE THEM OUT THIS YEAR AND IN 2012. And for those of you who keep comparing Atlanta/Clayton to other cities. If you like those places so much, then move there.

KEEPING IT REAL

March 30th, 2010
10:05 am

I am a 12 year resident of Clayton County and I say get rid of C-Tran. I’m African American and I have no problem saying that Riverdale Rd has become a Ghetto every since C-Tran arrived. It’s sad to say this but it’s true. The community has taken a major blow with the arrival of C-Tran. It’s a known fact that public transportation brings crime to the community. Public Transportation plays a very small role in major companies moving to the community.

I have concerns on where the people who use C-Tran will move but this is being done for finacial reasons. I will not support a Tax increase for the bus when our school system is horrible. It just sounds crazy, “We have public transportation but our schools are horrible”. The same energy that is being put forward to save a bus system, should be the same energy to save a school system.

KEEPING IT REAL

March 30th, 2010
10:14 am

NO INCREASE SALES TAX FOR C-TRAN… GET A CAR OR MOVE.

cracker

March 30th, 2010
11:26 am

It’s a known fact that public transportation brings crime to the community. if a white person said that it would be considered racist

bigdogears

March 30th, 2010
11:38 am

Kimberly: Why has the AJC put so much effort into illustrating the poor and pitifully disadvantaged in Clayton County and done nothing to investigate resident’s claims that Atlanta has systematically emptied its housing projects to our detriment?

hard life

March 30th, 2010
11:44 am

This should have never happen to the people in Clayton County. I live in Dekalb and every time I look in the paper and it is something about Clayton County I think back to the School Board situation with them losing Accrediation for nothing. I constantly ask people didn’t the Commissioners’, the Clayton Delegation, and the Chamber of Commerece think about joining in with Mark Elgart to take Accrediation for One(1) illegal board meeting in which he was in attendance along with the governor liasions, and he said, “they like Governance” wasn’t going to a financial hardship on the entire County then they were all crazy. They all should feel bad because they have caused this County dearly and they should all see now that it truly wasn’t about the School Board it was about destroying the Entire Clayton County Government. Mark Elgart, Clayton Delegation, the Chamber of Commerce, and Eldrin Bell should be happy. They have truly accomplished their mission to destroy Clayton County. Now, they do not want C-Tran. People you all better wake up and figure out who is running this county? Are they for the people or for themself ? I will hope that they can come together for the good of the people. Because they are getting ready to lose more money so your taxes will be going up regardless. So, I say to the people in Clayton County watch how this play out and watch your taxes.

SA

March 30th, 2010
3:23 pm

10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% of life is decided by how you react. If hard working C-Tran riders have an ounce of ambition, it’ll all work out. Those who don’t, you’re not welcome here anyways.

Tell The Truth

March 30th, 2010
4:16 pm

Raising the sales tax is a lose-lose for Clayton county. If taxes are raised, people like myself, would simply conduct business in neighboring counties that often times have a better variety of stores and a lower tax rate. Why would residents support a county that doesn’t listen to its voters. Rep. Roberta Abdul Salaam knows that C-Tran is gone, but is posturing for her base. By the way, what has she done meaningful while under the ‘Gold Dome’?

Donald

March 30th, 2010
4:42 pm

Operation Restore Clayton back to Respectability update…

Phase I: Get rid of C-Tran is now in effect…

jimmy (conservative brother)

March 30th, 2010
5:34 pm

Here we go again… C-Tran has got to go. So we don’t want pay for it in property taxes but somehow these geniuses under the gold dome think we want to pay for it every time we buy something… No… Not just no but heck no.
We have already accepted an increase in the millage rate so that we could keep the police and fire departments going. We accepted the splost increase for whatever that was for. How much more of your money do you want to give. Some wise person once said, “It is not the place of government to be benevolent with the people’s money.” 270,000 people are to pay more so that 5000 people can pay less. No.
When I was 15 years old living in this county I realized that I needed a car in order to get around. I got a job. I saved my money and I bought a car. I didn’t ask for any help. I did what needed to be done. I guess I got that from my mother who also growing up in this county realized she needed to be able to drive in order to function in this county. I watched as she taught herself to drive so that she would not be dependent on my father or anyone else to get around.
Stop it people. Pay your own way and stop asking others to sacrifice for your shortcomings.
For the person who thinks that businesses are looking for places with public transit. No businesses are looking for employees who are efficient enough to find their way to work and who will show up for work prepared and on time. I don’t know too many businesses who are looking to move to a place where the residents accept tax increases like candy. Those tax increases affect the business bottom line. The business bottom line affects how many people it can employ.

RantNRave!

March 30th, 2010
9:55 pm

Great example of a typical CTran user AJC. A guy employed at only ONE $9.00/hour job and living with his unemployed baby momma. I know she is in school but why isn’t she employed also? I am a married mother of two and I have a full time job. Lots of full time college students work a full time job. I know a woman who attended medical school while raising four kids. Why hasn’t this couple maximized their own economic potential? Here’s an idea: Get another job (OR TWO) and marry your baby momma. DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CHILDREN WITH YOUR BABY MOMMA OR ANY OTHER WOMAN UNTIL YOU IMPROVE YOUR LOT IN LIFE!!!!!!! A grown man’s Plan B should not be move back in with “momma them”.

Metro Atlanta will never be a cosmopolitan city like those up North or in the Midwest. There are way too many hayseeds under the Gold Dome for that to happen any time soon. Until then YOU MUST OWN A CAR TO SUCCESSFULLY FUNCTION IN METRO ATLANTA. A sixteen year old boy can purchase a fifteen year old hooptie working at McDonalds or cutting grass over the summer. An adult who knows that their employment opportunity in metro Atlanta is largely limited by lack of reliable transportation can surely do the same. Order your priorities and stop dropping all of your money at the Korean mule hair shop getting those GHETTO A** looking hairstyles that will limit your opportunity (GARISH, CLOWNISH AND UNPROFESSIONAL), inappropriate visible body art that costs big money and limits any upward mobility (NECK TATS, VISIBLE LEG TATS. BOOB TATS), and stupid looking grills/mouth jewelry. Take off those CHILDISH looking Geranimal looking outfits with the baseball cap, the hoodie with the “thing” on the back, the tee shirt with the “thing” on the front and the giant jeans with the same “things” on the back pockets. No man out of high school should be dressed in these Gymboree looking outfits! STOP WEARING THEM IF YOU ARE A GROWN MAN! YOU WILL NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY ANYONE EXCEPT BURGER KING.

JustAnOpinion

March 30th, 2010
11:12 pm

I am so speechless, when it comes to the outright selfishness some people have in their comments. What is interesting the people with the slanderous vile opinions on C-Tran, do not use it. You say you won’t pay for C-Tran, will that is like saying “I don’t use Riverdale Road,” yet your tax dollars are used to maintain it. I do use C-Tran from time to time, I am fortunate to have a vehicle. However, it is no reason that a person who isn’t as fortunate as some of us, should be penalized. Think about this…an elderly woman who goes to the dialysis clinic off of Upper Riverdale Road, she does not have a car, but she needs the bus to help her sustain her life, what about that student, who has a rocky home, but his motivation is his school, he has to utilize C-Tran to get to and from. Parents that are barely making ends meet, use C-Tran to go to work. How can some of you even dare say you “won’t pay.” What happen to compassion for your community. I’d like to think if this were some of your family members, you’d be parading around just like the rest of the “effected,” to keep this service going. Clayton County is going to loose businesses, who pay taxes, in turn that funds some of your children’s education. I agree with one who states, Marta is not the answer. I say keep, C-Tran local so locals can obtain a job, funds can stimulate local economy. Here’s another point, C-Tran’s fare is 1.50…this is the lowest in the metro area. The Commission voted to scrap it before seeking alternative options. I am certain the riders are willing to pay 2.00 dollars or more to cover the cost. This of course is another political move…well done Singletary, Edmundson, Hambrick and Ralph. They were the ones who voted to pay 8 MILLION dollars to GARTA to take over the system. Now, this is not rocket science, your money still is paying for something that you are not using. So this commission is wasteful and not considerate of it people. They just sentenced that elderly woman to death, that child to the drop out pool and who knows what other effects this will cause. I want to encourage the people of Clayton County, to use your power and vote these commissioners out and get some smart ones in.

Sick Of It All

March 30th, 2010
11:50 pm

Tell the Truth, you are exactly right. I will shop in neighboring Henry, Spalding or even Fayette. A few years ago, when other counties became so hostile toward Clayton, I kept my money in Clayton. I drove miles out of my way to shop in Morrow when I am minutes away from shopping centers in both Fayette & Henry. I even started banking at a local branch. If this sales tax increase passes, I will not spend one dime more than I have to in Clayton.

And to the above poster who resorted to calling residents names….ignorant, country, etc you are not helping generate any sympathy. You are just appearing to be the type of individual that everyone is wanting gone. What about an honest, intelligent, adult debate ? Also as far as the socioeconomic level of Clayton residents is concerned…you must not travel to south Clayton much. If you every venture out, maybe you should take a gander at the higher income level housing in Lake Spivey and Hampton. Contrary to what the media likes to show, not everyone in Clayton County is poor.

Sick Of It All

March 30th, 2010
11:57 pm

World Rim Roamer, when I no longer have to worry about getting harmed on public transit, then I will use it. And please, dont’ try to tell me my fears are unfounded. Tried Marta a few times to go to games, had to threaten to knock the hell out of a relentless begger on the train & had to keep someone from trying to still a friend’s cell phone. Let’s not even forget the young man that was just killed at the train station. Get rid of the pollution (thugs) on the public transportation system and I will stop driving & polluting the air.

Progressive African American

March 31st, 2010
8:03 am

Look at all of the people who have their hands in the pot!!! Follow the money!!! AJC.com, news media, other counties not wanting the undesirables to move closer to MARTA stops/stations in their area. That is the only reason why the media keeps falsifying the percentage of people using it.
I wonder how much money State Rep. Roberta Abdul-Salaam (D-Riverdale) is being handed by other county heads in order to try and keep this system in Clayton (Maybe enough to pay her taxes)?
When this bill comes out to be voted on it will fail drastically. If it doesn’t fail we the people should ensure that the vote counts are kept transparent and demand a re-count and verify the voters addresses!

WTF?

March 31st, 2010
8:56 am

“Mellerson said she knows people who “are actually going out to buy cars with no insurance and no driver’s license.”"

Did ya’ll see this in today’s AJC article? Clayton residents be careful out there when driving and I hope the CCPD will be out in full force before unlicensed drivers hurt anyone.

Shannon, M.Div.

March 31st, 2010
9:12 am

Aptly-named Mr. Nobody, I proudly claim the label of liberal. I can’t speak for all liberals, but I’m generous with my own money, too. And there are worse things to be than a “hippie”–someone who believes in love toward all, freedom for everyone, and pacifism.

But it’s much easier to just dismiss an argument with a label or two rather than take it apart substantively, isn’t it? Demonize someone with the label of “liberal,” and suddenly you don’t have to engage their ideas.

I’d engage your ideas, if you had any. So far, your “idea” seems to be “People can’t get to work? Whatever, not my problem.”