C-Tran Public Hearing on Wednesday

Doesn’t Senator Emanuel Jones have enough to deal with in the counties he represents without getting into Clayton’s business?

Jones (who represents parts of Decatur and Henry counties) along with Georgia’s Legislative Black Caucus are holding a public meeting this Wednesday, Feb. 10, from 3:30 PM to 5 PM in Room 216 of the Capitol building (206 Washington St., S.W., Atlanta) to discuss keeping C-Tran running.

“The shutdown of C-TRAN would have regional consequences, and would likely send federal dollars that could be used for regional transportation projects here, to states such as North Carolina and Florida,” says Jones via the Clayton News-Daily. Too late, since those states already received a huge chunk of the transportation stimulus pie. According to WSBTV, Florida and North Carolina received millions for their high speed rail projects. Thanks to the Georgia DOT, all we’ll get is a measly $750,000 to pay for three (more) feasibility studies and nada to help fund a rail line here, particularly the long awaited Macon to Atlanta commuter rail line that would run through Clayton.

Aside from the governor’s new-found support for a regional sales tax and proposed $300 million public transportation bond, Jones adds that his regions depend on C-Tran, and talks about finding ways to spread the burden of costs for it. Like most counties these days, Clayton is working to get solvent – can we afford to worry about the needs of other counties?

Several “major stakeholders” are invited including our BOC, ITT Technical Institute, Clayton State University, and members of labor organizations and the business community. Will you attend?

Say a prayer for the MORROW HIGH SCHOOL MOCK TRIAL TEAM, who has a chance of making the Finals via wildcard! They will find out next weekend!

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jimmy (conservative brother)

February 8th, 2010
10:37 am

This is just more political buffoonery. The people of this county have spoken loud and clear, “No more C-Tran.” Yet these political, tone deaf, I know better than you elected officials around here don’t get it. Wasting time and gas to go to this sideshow would be truly be an exercise in futility.
The only way to make these politicians hear is to make them former elected officials. We were saddled with the burden of C-Tran to get federal dollars. Those federal dollars went away and we were left with a $7,000,000 shortfall. How much louder can we say it, “If it can not sustain itself then let it die!” Due to the nature of the Country’s financial woes it would seem that politicians would wake up and see that people are simply tired of seeing more and more of their tax dollars going to support some politicians pet projects so that the politician can repay his political cronies with that tax money.
I will not waste my time going to watch these buffoons parade around their idiotic rhetoric; however I will pay attention to what is happening and increase my vigilance to see that we elect new representation on all levels to eliminate this long running political machine that seeks to suck the citizens of this county for every tax dollar they have.

bigdogears

February 8th, 2010
10:44 am

Why isn’t Senator Jones worried about the burden C-Tran has put on the residents of Clayton County? My family has recently done some serious cutting back on our expenses. It’s time for our government officials to do the same. I will be at the hearing!!!

Where was Senator Jones when our schools were loosing accreditation?

Jboogye

February 8th, 2010
11:09 am

C-TRAN really needs to go, our tax dollars are already wasted on this mess of a bus system. The only time I see more than ten people on a bus is when iam in Riverdale between 9am and 12 noon, after that there are mostly empty. I did my own study with my child for a social studies project and we were just shocked to see all those busses runing with no one on them. Maybe Riverdale should get there own system ans save the county some money.

Peggy Sue Davis

February 8th, 2010
11:13 am

GO AWAY C-TRAN, CLAYTON HOMEOWNERS DON’T WANT YOU!

Roach

February 8th, 2010
11:43 am

Seriously? I mean, seriously?

Yeah, okay

February 8th, 2010
11:54 am

Hey Emannuael Jones MYOB and worry about DeKalb and Henry counties. Dekalb county alone has enough of their own problems for you to tend to.

Clayton residents pay close attention to what your commissioner does or says at this meeting and any decisions made regarding Ctran, and vote accordingly.

Clayton resident

February 8th, 2010
12:03 pm

I would attend but the timing makes it almost impossible for anyone who has a JOB (which ironically rules out pretty much ALL C-tran riders too) to be there between 3:300-5:00 pm. Coincidence? Let’s hope in this case the apatheic stay that way. If a lotta people don’t show I hope this doesn’t make the elected officials think its okay to save C-Tran because we really want it, the majority do not.

No Jones fan...

February 8th, 2010
12:07 pm

I used to like Emanuel Jones. He was more humble in the old days. But, his success proved, in my opinion, to bring out a latent arrogance that is not so becoming for him. But, people do change. Or, maybe their real character comes out. But, hey, this is just my opinion. I am sure that no one liked Nat Turner in the day. I don’t think that this is his legacy though. Henry County has been a redneck-type county for years, and Mr. Jones, a University of Pennsylvania and a University of Columbia graduate, obviously knew how to deal deftly with the red side of Henry County. On second thought, perhaps he just did what he had to do. But, trying to force C-Tran on Clayton? I don’t know. I see Eldrin Bell’s fingerprints on this. Hey, Emanuel, don’t be used by Eldrin. How ’bout H-Cran. You reckon’ ole Buddy Welch would like you pushing for mass transit in Henry County?

Why

February 8th, 2010
1:11 pm

Kick Rocks C-Tran!!!!!

Please attend

February 8th, 2010
2:27 pm

Show up to the meeting. Your vebt on this blog isn’t enough. If you have to work, call out or leave early that day. you can get a days pay in excange for years upon years of declining property value and incresased crime. Which one do you think is worth more?

Don’t let Eldrin Bell push his disastrous agenda forward…..he wants some federal money to come so he can pocket it before he retires. He knows he can’t win another election.

Emanuel Jones is an advocate of a bus system that doesn’t rub through his county? That makes no sense. He couldn’t ..should I say wouldn’t push that crap through Henry or Fayette…so he decides to further destroy CC because we’re a county of ignorant apathetic fools.

We lost accreditation and barely voted to elect the new board. These politicians know that CC is uninvolved in its politics outside of complaining.

PLEASE PROVE HIM WRONG AND SHOW UP. Get the media out there…have some signs and voice your opinion. This will kill the stupidity him

Go Morrow

February 8th, 2010
4:10 pm

Go Morrow. Bing it home . we are rooting for you!!!!

stanthefireman

February 8th, 2010
4:14 pm

Thanks for the e-mail link …… we all need to e mail the good Senator Emanuel Jones, tell him how you feel about C-TRAN

James

February 8th, 2010
6:23 pm

Let C-Tran die. We need commuter rail!

Progressive Jones

February 8th, 2010
7:56 pm

Come on, all you “non-progressives”! We need C-Tran and a light rail; come on its 2010 already! All you conservatives can go back and ride horse back. Come on, we are a metro county!

Morning Star

February 8th, 2010
8:41 pm

I ride C tran to work daily. When I ride it it is full! Keep Ctran. How else can the working poor like myself get to Dunwoody where the jobs are. My Uncle does not have a driver’s licence. He depends on Mass transit as well. Arn’t we supposed to be moving towards less cars on the freeway and mass transit anyway? Is this not the responsible thing to do? Only in Georgia and Clayton County can the issue of mass public transit buck all trends and end up as a controversial topic. Maybe if the hicks under the Gold Dome would fund it, we could keep it because I guarantee you those busses are PACKED when I’m on them. Let’s kick out all the incumbents and just start over!

Clayton resident

February 8th, 2010
9:52 pm

Even the DOT commissioner admits GA has no plan in place. Every state has to at least act like they have a plan to move forward Ga can’t even do that!

As usual, GA gets left in the dust while the rest of the world moves forward. the DOT & Perdue need to stop talking and studying and start taking action to move this state forward. Sometimes I’m surprised old timers aren’t still getting around via horse and buggy because that’s where the mindset is of the people who run this place.

Question for you

February 8th, 2010
10:15 pm

How did these people get around before CTRAN came along?

Morrow Dude

February 9th, 2010
5:09 am

It’s time to get NEW leadership to support light rail transportation. There’s no excuse for Georgia to be so far behind the rest of the country. As far as C-TRAN, it needs to be put out of its misery. Homeowners- who are the funders- don’t want it. Renters, transients, and apartment dwellers need to move to areas with bus service if they depend on it. C-TRAN is on life support and needs to die.

Barbara

February 9th, 2010
5:52 am

C-Tran has to go, those buses are not full, and also tired of people saying that it’s not the cause of our problem. I’ve been here in Clayton County for 13 years and this is awful now. It was quiet you didn’t hear shooting late at night or daytime, and people call the police if you see kids hanging out and you know that they are up to no good, I’m also tired of the loud music from the cars and I’m in my house and hear it coming. Leave Clayton County and Let’s Make it was 13 years ago and if anybody wants to know I’m African American. Some of the Adults need to address there Children and stop defending them when you know they are up to something. Staying out all night and know they should be in the house but you as a parent will be the first one to cry wolf.

Barbara

February 9th, 2010
5:55 am

Again I think Tracey Graham is Great locked them up they want to steal they should be charged as adults, parents again if you know that your young Adult doesn’t have a job and you are not buying clothes for them where are they getting them?

Tell The Truth

February 9th, 2010
7:28 am

I’m glad that neither of our State Senators, Valencia Seay & Gail Davenport, are involved in this. It’s funny that a Senator representing part of Henry, a county that detest having a bus system, is interjecting in our local affairs in Clayton County. If he thinks it’s such a good idea, why propose a system for his own district?

oldtimer

February 9th, 2010
9:23 am

Right now there is no money for rails, buses etc, though I know we need them. What local, state, and Federal governments all need to do is CUT ALL SPENDING about 5% for the next few years. I have had to cut my budget more than that. When we are in better financial shape then we get to spend again.

Go to the Meeting

February 9th, 2010
9:59 am

Before C-tran..Most of the C-Tran riders were in Atlanta. I’ve taken Ctran fromthe airport to get home (by the justice center) when I had to work late. It was nice..but it was seldom that I had to do that. It would be a greater benefit to the county overall if we didn’t have it.

A REAL SOLUTION

February 9th, 2010
10:01 am

Buy a van and start a van pool going downtown or to the airport etc. That way you’re creating jobs and giving the well to do people with transportation and opportunity to get where they are going. Charge a reasonable flat rate and it will work.

The way things are, some people need to create there own jobs.

GO TO THE MEETING

February 9th, 2010
10:03 am

EXCACTLY.. A Henry county senator wants a bus system in Clayton County…..”Anywhere but my county” thats what it sounds like to me

WTF?

February 9th, 2010
12:46 pm

I WISH I could take time off from work to go and oppose C-Tran tomorrow. They’re counting on nobody being there to go against it why else hold it during business hours when most people are working? Why is anyone even entertaining the ideas from this guy who doesn’t even represent this county? Will be interesting to read which of our elected officials will show up there.

@Kim

February 9th, 2010
3:23 pm

Kimberley..I hope to see you there and I hope you speak on behalf of the responses you’ve gotten from this blog. It unanimous that CC residents do NOT want Ctran.

HLS

February 9th, 2010
3:45 pm

Gail Davenport has not been our State Senator for over a year. She lost last year’s election. Need to keep up with the players in the political game.

Barbara

February 9th, 2010
4:53 pm

They got around by riding Marta in the city of Atlanta!!!! Please everybody come to the meeting Jones needs to have it in his county not ours.

Why Emanuel Why?

February 9th, 2010
9:54 pm

Why is it that Emanuel Jones is always behind the push every other year to try and Incorporate Ellenwood? Ellenwood is in 3 different counties, but it always seems as though Emanuel wants to be a powerplayer in other people’s backyards. It’s almost like he wants to be another Wade.

From the words of the infamous
Tony Montana: Me, I want what’s coming to me.
Manny: Oh, well what’s coming to you?
Tony Montana: The world, Chico, and everything in it.

Daryl

February 10th, 2010
6:19 am

It would make my heart glad for C-Tran to be eliminated. I just wish we could also eliminate all those low class people it brought into our county….

Bones

February 10th, 2010
9:08 am

For all those that cannot attend the public hearing…There is link above to send the good state senator an email letting him know how we feel about him trying to ram C-Tran back down our throats…If he loves it so much, why doesn’t he propose we hand it off to Henry county…Let’s share the “wealth” of all the problems it causes…

The more emails the merrier…

bigdogears

February 10th, 2010
10:53 am

After discussing this hearing with others I have decided not to attend. It is also likely that of our BOC’s only Eldrin will attend. I don’t have a problem with this for two reasons. The first and most important being this is a county issue, not a state issue, and the BOC has already made its decision, which I support. Secondly, I understand that C-Tran, like so many things, has been politicized so that Senator Jones can promote a state house candidate for district 78. In lieu of attending, I will send a note of thanks to all the commissioners that voted to terminate C-Tran.

Shannon, M.Div.

February 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

Daryl, at least you’re honest. This is what’s at the heart of the C-TRAN dispute: the “element” that it has brought to Clayton County. The residents of Clayton do not want poor people in their county.

I think the tone of Ms. Allen’s opening was a little off. Read the facts encoded in the blog: Jones is “messing with Clayton’s business” because his constituents use C-TRAN and he believes that eliminating it will affect the entire region. At the risk of sounding juvenile, duh. C-TRAN is how people in Clayton (and counties south of Clayton) connect to MARTA.

But notice what Jones also said as a primary purpose of this hearing: to find additional ways to FUND C-Tran.

If the problem is genuinely the funding of C-Tran, then this hearing would be welcomed by Clayton residents. Why is it not? Because the real issue isn’t funding, people. It’s getting the undesirables out of the county, as Daryl (among others) pointed out quite plainly.

African Hair Braiding

February 10th, 2010
3:50 pm

Kick out C-Tran. Sure, there are probably a handful of decent, hardworking Americans who ride, but their means of transportation is going to be sacrificed for the better of the county.

Sgt. Rock

February 10th, 2010
7:26 pm

Recently a letter has been circulated disparaging member of the Clayton County Commission distributed and signed by a Mr. Antonio Diaz.

I fervently disagree with all of the contents and tone of the letter. The contents were totally inappropriate and completely uncalled for.

For too long we have put up with this kind of material especially that material distributed by previous elected officials.

It is clear not only in the retraction but indeed, from history, the source of this vile trash. The retraction states a “former Clayton Public Official”…..there can be only one!!!

Mr. Diaz has retracted his statement in the attached letter.

It is now clear to all members of the Board of Commissioners the true source of the letter:

02/09/2010

To whom it may concern,

I, Antonio Diaz, am submitting my formal retraction of the letter and flyer passed out before the Clayton County Commissioners meeting on February 1, 2010.

The letter and the flyer made allegations of impropriety by Wade Starr, Gail Hambrick, Sonna Singleton, Alex Cohilas, Wole Ralph, Kevin Thomas and David Reed.

I had no part in writing or preparing the letter or flyer or knowledge of the fact that I would be
shown as the author. The flyer was presented to me at the commission meeting by a former Clayton Public Official. I did not verify the contents of the flyer before distributing and after , speaking with Mr. Starr at the commissioners, meeting I relinquished to him, all known copies of the document.

I give my apologies for the lies that have been spread and the damage that it has caused to Mr. Starr, Ms. Hambrick, Ms. Singleton, Mr. Ralph, Mr. Cohilas, Mr. Thomas, Mr. Reed and the Clayton County Board of Commissioners. I understand that this retraction will not make up for the damage it has caused, but I hope it will reach as many people as the flyer did so as to uncorrupt their good names and make right the wrongs them.

While this letter and flyer has made its way onto the internet and into the emails of many individuals in the county … the allegations and claim of filing with the States Ethics Board are all false. Wade Starr, Gail Hambrick, Sonna Singleton and Wole Ralph are dedicated public servants in Clayton County and their records prove it.

Sincerely, Antonio Diaz

What will it take?

February 10th, 2010
7:41 pm

The stupidity of those who want to say that only low income people ride public transportation and to assert that that is the real reason for discontinuing CTRAN is asinine. But this is the south and it seems as though people are judged by their ability to drive a damn car rather than get on the bus. Only in Georgia do you have this backwards way of thinking. The cost of CTRAN is what has caused its demise, not the people who ride it. People stop letting politicians and self-hating people marginalize you and your intelligence. This is an election year and everyone is going to claim to have fixed everything or have the answer.

Peggy Sue Davis

February 10th, 2010
7:51 pm

I was at the meeting and apart from a few locals who spoke, many present were officials trying to court votes…even more troubling, how many NON Clayton County elected officials present. LOL!

Black Rain

February 10th, 2010
9:38 pm

so who was it from – and this still does not make these officials lily-white – there is still STARR power behind all three Cohilas Ralph and Sonna

Really now

February 10th, 2010
11:17 pm

Why doesn’t Fayette or Henry County have a bus system? Those counties are so well of and are ajacent to Clayton….why do we have riff raf and they don’t? C-Tran….it makes CC convenient.

@What will it take….move to Dekalb or Fulton and ride their transit system….those counties are trash and are looking to spread it around. Gwinnett is fighting tooth and nail to keep MARTA from running buses through the county..they don’t want the rest of the county to turn into Norcross. CC doesn’twant the rest of the county to turn in to College Park or Riverdale.

We NEED to get some undesirables out of the county..we can’t just kick them out so we hae to make in inconvenient for them to live here. Making it convenient for any low life to move here is what got CC to where it is now…the armpit of metro Atlanta.

Some will be hurt by C_Trans demise..but the county WILL benefit overall. AGAIN…How does Fayette and Henry manage to remain so prosperous without a bus system? Ever notice where the NICER parts of CC is? Its the southern end by Love Joy and Hampton…the only place C-Tran doesn’t go.

Jonesboro

February 10th, 2010
11:18 pm

Has anyone here been on any of the Clayton County buses? They are very old and very GHETTO .Everyone is yelling on there cell phones you can hear their business you have young men with their pants on the ground and if you ever notice all the trash at the bus stops 40 oz of beer ..it is disgusting I live in Clayton and i will ride the express bus if i need to go Atlanta and I hope they shut down the CTRAN because I am tired of all these punks walking around my city and throwing trash on the floor and making this place look GHETTO.All those schools have to do is provide transportation to there schools and thats it or leave the county ..let those who need a bus move back to Atlanta .

Jonesboro

February 10th, 2010
11:21 pm

No more CTRAN PLEASE .

CC Churches

February 10th, 2010
11:22 pm

Those churches that were in atteted ndance

You have buses and minivans that do nothing 6 days a week…why not start a van pool..charge a flat rate or monthly rate and make trips at designated times to popular locations Such as downtown, the airport, buckhead, etc.

You would give people an opportunity to go where they need to go and in turn make a profit…Heck you’d be creating jobs for the drivers.

Start creating jobs instead of looking to the government..especially the CC government to help you.

Fed up

February 10th, 2010
11:23 pm

Once we get rid of CTRAN the ghetto will leave with it

Those who went

February 10th, 2010
11:23 pm

The media made it seem like the majority wanted C-tran…Did anyone speak against it?

It seems like all the anti C-Tran folks were on this blog but not in attendance

Those who went

February 10th, 2010
11:27 pm

I was drivintg through jonesboro…by jboro city hall…next to lee street elementary….that neighborhood looked so nice..reminded me of little five points….parts of midtown by Grady Highschool. If we ATTRACT more progressive young families…it would be great…..The KEY WORD IS ATTRACT…what is CC doing to attract those types? NOTHING…Its doing everything to attract some young pants on the floor thugs or some baby mamas

E.Bell oh no!!

February 10th, 2010
11:48 pm

Only a bum like Eldrin Bell would fight for something that hurts the county…..but then again he is only doing it for votes..he wants the “poor” or “lesser class” of CC resident s to vote for him because he is supposedly trying to save C-tran. Thats a load of crap.

Thr truth is he doesn’t care…he just wants to stay in office and will say anything to appear as a do gooder for the county. Next he’ll give out free vouchers or reduce te rent for section 8 renters….then he’ll..let em stop.

Just look at te county over the last 8 years with Bell as the leader and tell me what he has done for Clayton County

New York

February 10th, 2010
11:52 pm

GA isn’t New York…we have a bunch of New Yorkers but thats it. You can’t compare the two states…we don’t havethe diversity or the population. CC is a suburb…not a metropolis. A QUIET suburb..we have grass and acres of land…..it makes no sense that we are getting infiltrated by a bunch of saggy pants wearing loafers who do nothing but loiter and get into altercations.

Vic

February 11th, 2010
8:39 am

Isn’t it interesting how politicians from the rest of the state – esp. those in other metro areas are so worried about the bus system in Clayton? Guess they what to keep the problem confined so it doesn’t permeate into their own parts of the metro area.

Bryan

February 11th, 2010
10:39 am

The people of CC have to be straight idiots!!

First of all CC needs C-Tran or MARTA to provide transit into the city. How in the world can you look at an area that is only 10 to 15 miles from downtown and doesn’t have anykind of transit? Then you hear so may people talking about bring light rail to the county. So you are going to bring something that is more expensive and will run more frequently? By CC accounts the buses bring poor ghetto people so that means more ghetto people coming into the county even faster right and a system that is even more expensive than the bus system. Wow CC… real smart. Like CC has the density to support stations without a network of feeder bus routes to connect… I think they think this is NY or Chicago or something.

Then you hear the stupid and racist comments… look at Fed Up 2/10 at 11:23.. “Once we get rid of CTRAN the ghetto will leave with it.” Oh really? Where will they go? There aren’t any projects in ATL anymore. Then don’t have jobs or will lose their McDonald’s jobs they have that were atleast helping them contribute somewhat to the economy. People will have to stop going to school to try to better themselve because they don’t have a way to get there. Again… real smart CC.

Or like Barbara 2/9 at 5:52am “I’ve been here in Clayton County for 13 years and this is awful now. It was quiet you didn’t hear shooting late at night or daytime, and people call the police if you see kids hanging out and you know that they are up to no good, I’m also tired of the loud music from the cars and I’m in my house and hear it coming.” Now which one of these has anything to do with a bus being in the area?

CC was bad before C-Tran. Those people where there before C-Tran came. That is the long time residents of CC that let it get like that where the renters and the “ghetto” folks moved in. That did because it was cheap! CC needs and will have transit. CC is part of the big 5! MARTA rail will come in the northern part of the county along with feeder buses. There will be express buses and hopefully a commuter rail station in the southern part of CC to provide non stop direct service to downtown ATL.

I’m a supporter of transit and I love to drive. I understand how important it is for transit as an option. It isn’t just for the poor it is for everyone. Too be honest I’d much rather have these “poor ghetto” people as so many in CC like to call them working at McD’s during the day then them not doing anything and having them break in my house while I’m at work AND having to pay more money for unemployment to support them while they just sit because they don’t have the money to go anywhere or work.

Clayton county is full of a bunch of dummys! Sorry to the ones that are there and have some sense.