C-Tran protest in vain?

C-Tran riders vowed to fight the Board of Commissioners’ decision to end bus service, and they aren’t wasting any time.  A protest will take place on Oct. 24, led by a Marietta-based activist group called the New Order National Human Rights Organization.

I realize this opinion may not be popular, but I believe those four Commissioners did the right thing by ending C-Tran service.  Financially speaking, it needed to happen as the county was hemorrhaging money to fund it.  Unlike many other states, Georgia does not subsidize local public transportation.

Chairman Eldrin Bell was the lone holdout to keep C-Tran, and stated publicly he will use all resources at his disposal to keep the system running.  This includes asking the state to allow an airport sales tax increase that could bring in $3 million annually.  Other options are to ask the legislature and Clayton voters to support another penny tax to fund the system, or unite with MARTA.  But according to various news sources and commissioners, it is unlikely that any of these efforts will succeed due largely in part to short timing.

What I also found interesting is that, according to the AJC, one-fifth of the 142 comments received by the county regarding C-Tran came from people who do not reside in Clayton.  I have to wonder if their motivations are to support bus riders because they believe in the cause, or to just ensure those riders don’t end up in their own backyard, as worried residents from other counties have inquired if I knew where these folks might go if C-Tran does shut down.

C-Tran riders, drivers and supporters will protest in front of the commission building next Saturday.  Will you attend to show your support one way or the other?

58 comments Add your comment

Please!

October 19th, 2009
11:15 am

Peggy Sue Davis

October 19th, 2009
11:33 am

Whatever! This is a waste of time. You’ll just have the same 35 people protesting, including media. Oh yeah, I forgot…..its cold now, so make that about 15 protestors.

LOL to the “worried residents” about NIMBY (not in my backyard). Don’t worry there’s plenty of MARTA to spare in South Dekalb. HA! HA!

Eldrin can say and do whateva he wants – he doesn’t have the votes to change this and no one at the Capitol cares about Obamaland Clayton anyway!

You can’t squeeze blood from a turnip. Clayton County is BROKE! Stick a fork in C-Tran, its done! Good riddance too!

Resolve

October 19th, 2009
9:03 pm

How is refusing to fund a losing venture like C-Tran cause for a Human Rights protest?

Outliers

October 19th, 2009
10:32 pm

Party and race differences are likely part of it, said state Sen. Vincent Fort (D-Atlanta). “If race is not everything in Atlanta, it’s at least in everything in Atlanta.” “If race is not everything in Clayton, it’s at least in everything in Clayton.” Don’t worry Claytonites! We’ll have a mass transit system soon; it’ll be MARTA, which means Moving Africans Rapids Throughout Atlanta. HaHaHa!!! No matter how “Broke” the county is, in 2010 mass transit systems makes all the “Sense” in the world! The only ones against it are chauvinistic.

State Run Transportation

October 19th, 2009
10:36 pm

Marta is coming soon! CRCT Cheating! What is SACS for children education or playing politics? AJC reporters Heather Vogell and data analyst John Perry dug deeper into the data and identified 19 schools statewide that experienced dramatic drops and gains in test scores between spring last year and this year. Twelve of those were in the Atlanta system, accounting for more than one in five of the district’s elementary schools. The AJC reporters found that students at Atlanta’s West Manor and Peyton Forest elementary schools went from among the bottom performers statewide to among the best over the course of one year. The odds of making such a leap in learning were less than 1 in a billion. Isn’t that worthy of “Accreditation Loss? People in Clayton county are crazy!

Progressive African American

October 20th, 2009
7:54 am

Thank you board of commissioners!!!! It was a hard decision and I am very thankful that you chose C-TRAN vs. Police, Firefighters and other “more important county services”.

Now if Riverdale can just get rid of some of the council members who continue to sue “their” own city with frivolous lawsuits because of progress being made in the community. We the taxpayers pay for these frivolous lawsuits, not him – more charges in to Riverdale’s “Code of Ethics” should be filed!

http://library6.municode.com:80/default-test/template.htm?view=browse&doc_action=setdoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=7059fcc9561534f445ef658bbb804908&infobase=11472

He and another member of the city council are the equivalent “Victor Hills” of Riverdale.

Mrs. Kim Allen, his lawsuits need to be covered more so the entire city and county can see how much of an idiot he is.

http://news-daily.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=2&ArticleID=29015&TM=28088.63

I believe early voting has started, so Clayton County and Riverdale residents, do everyone a favor and go out and vote on November 3rd, 2009.

bigdogears

October 20th, 2009
8:20 am

If I did attend I would support my commissioners and not those folks that seem to think money grows on trees. My mother always said “nobody riders for free” and while a bus ride is not free, it is subsidized. As a Clayton County resident, I don’t want to help pay for someone else get to work, school, grocery store, or even the hospital. I’ve got my own transportation expenses to worry about. If the bus system is losing money – shut it down!

raja

October 20th, 2009
1:46 pm

I read the same article kimberly about one-fifth not CC residents leaving comments, which leave me to believe some of these protesters are not CC residents. I wonder how many own a home in CC. It just doesn’t make since to keep CTran.

If I depended on public transportation for everything, I would rather live where its more rapid with trains and buses. I can’t understand someone living in CC that have to have public transportation for evertything they do.

Tell The Truth

October 20th, 2009
7:56 pm

New Order has had a Clayton chapter for a couple of years now and I never hear about it being involved in anything other than issues like this. We elect commissioners to make sound, well informed decisions on our behalf, even when they are tough decisions. Instead of marching for buses, under the banner of ‘Human Rights’, New Order should be trying to deal with the human rights of the residents of Clayton who live in fear of gangs and crime. Where were you on this New Order? Why are you silent as crime became a way of life, but you become outraged over buses? As I look at the website for the organization, it appears that it has been dormant for a few years and is using this as a catalyst to renew their relevance (and membership).

Peggy Sue Davis

October 20th, 2009
9:16 pm

Exactly! These people are not Clayton County homeowners. They wish to dine on another’s dime – leaches!

Clayton County is comprised of mostly transient renters who will return to their diggs in Fulton/Dekalb once C-Tran ends. So start packin’!

Progressive African American

October 20th, 2009
9:58 pm

Quoted from the article: ‘Clayton OKs in-house study on impact of shutting down C-Tran’
http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/clayton-oks-in-house-167972.html

“The people that are not here today are not here because they have two jobs, three jobs, or they’re tired,” one of the four speakers, Shanyce Taylor, 9, told the board, “and that’s why they need C-Tran.”

My question is how in the world do they find time to do proper research on county officials running for office and vote?

State Run Transportation Backer

October 20th, 2009
10:01 pm

State Run Transportation in 2010 in the “Correct” way of thinking especially in the 13 or more “METRO” counties, that’s sound thinking! Now we know that means “MARTA” Get away from the 1970s way of thinking. Metro Altanta has exploded, in terms of population. Clayton has a population of upward of 300,000; people that are not ready for change need to “Moving” out of the “Metro” region. Now Nuff said!

Sonja Nipper

October 21st, 2009
2:59 am

Eldrin can only get one vote…his own??? Please!!! Eldrin, please step aside and give the reins to Wade. Wade Starr, Wade Starr, Wade Starr…he has bested ole Green Eyes in Clayco. Eldrin is impotent in Clayco. Frank Bailey, please write this on a card. It is a fact, Jack. Jack Hancock? I don’t know. Everyone is on the County’s country-fed teat right now. Judge Deborah Benefield? Is she still holding grudges? Justice for all, eh? More justice if you have more money, I think.

Sonja Nipper

October 21st, 2009
10:33 am

I hear that Eldrin Bell and Ericka Davis are proposing the Mark Elgart Transportation System (METS). METS will transport all serious-minded students to private schools or to the Fayette County School System. Ericka Davis, Rod Johnson (does he still live in Georgia?), and Eldrin Bell did the Clayton County residents a wonderful service by collaborating with Mark Elgart to take away accreditation from the Clayton County School System and consequently destroying the Clayton County Community. Yes, I agree with the other poster, you can “stick a fork in Clayton”; it is finished.

METS would be an appropriate way to memorialize the selfishness of a few, along with the help of Judge Deborah Benefield. “Nothing in this part will prohibit a candidate from having a judicial determination in this this matter…” Nothing, of course, except a biased and strong-willed judge. Y’all wanted it; now y’all have it. What do you have? A laughing stock of a county. You do have to hang you head when you tell someone that you are from “Clayton,” don’t you? But, you will have the Mark Elgart Transportation System (METS). You can catch a non-stop trip all the way to Alpharetta.

Resolve

October 21st, 2009
1:42 pm

The downturn in this economy has given Clayton County a golden opportunity. Clayton County has an opportunity to correct some ill advised decisions of the past! The first one being turning this county into a bedroom community. Few industry and few higher end homes has created this dreaded bedroom community with a majority of homes under $150,000. With out middle class and upper middle class citizenry to balance the poverty in the county, the county will continue to be plagued with crime, poor education system, and other inadequate services.

The builders are bankrupt and are unable to bribe commissioners for permits. When the market rebounds, let’s take advantage of this by being aggressive with requiring impact fees, and by requiring some higher end homes to be built in the county. Let’s work to attract middle class and upper middle class people (notice I am not including RACE) back to the county. Middle class people are the backbone of this country and it was the backbone of this county.

What will attract middle class? Higher end homes, quality school system, access to major interstate, and accessible retail outlets, little crime, quality parks and recreation and quality people to run the their government.

The second ill advised decision of the past that needs reversing is C-Tran. We can not afford C-Tran in this county. You can not spend what you do not have. We do not have the funds to support C-Tran; therefore, C-Tran must go.

Atlanta is creating the perfect place to send its undesirable residents. They made sure transportation was in place for their undesirable residents. They made sure there were plenty of homes available to rent (Section 8) to their undesirable citizens. The school system is a place where the hard to teach feel at home. Our entire county has suffered as a result of Clayton being reactive instead of proactive.

Let’s turn this thing around!!! Eldrin Bell MUST go (no to LEE Scott also)!!!!!!

T Moore

October 21st, 2009
4:33 pm

Let C-Tran dies maybe Clayton county will become a respectable community again. Stick a fork in it and call it a day!

raja

October 21st, 2009
5:33 pm

Resolve

I agree. People don’t understand Clayton County is a working class county. There is no wealthy side to hold up the poor side of town. Like Dunwoody to South Dekalb or Alpharetta to South Fulton. Everybody must pay their way. This the way its always been CC.

Rev Billy Bob Whiskey

October 21st, 2009
6:51 pm

Sonja nipper — J T of course. I live for the day you are stupid enuff to get yourself hauled in front of the Honorable Judge Benefield. I would take vacation days just to see you squirm in front of this strong woman judge. I would even bring popcorn. Peace.

It is people like Judge Bennefield, Sheriff Kimbrough, Chief Turner, DA Lawson and SG Mosley that can and will help turn this county into a new place of prominence. JT – Tell your buddies to light tail and leave.

Analyzer

October 21st, 2009
10:13 pm

What on “Earth” is a Progressive African American, you must be pink. I know several Progressive Blacks! You can even lie behind the screen! What a winner.

Meteoric

October 21st, 2009
10:22 pm

Will Mark Elgart have the integrity to red flag these scores, now that an independent, objective testing expert has said that they indicate gains that are a “One in a Billion” Occurrence? Come on! Does he have the integrity to admit he may have been premature told Clayton’s accreditation? Or will he protect his self-proclaimed “good friends” at the expense of Georgia’s students? Will he pull accreditation! People in Clayton county are crazy for allowing it! Does SACS care about children education or do they play politics?

Just Thinking

October 21st, 2009
10:41 pm

I pay for my car insurance , tag , buy gas and maintenance all for an average of 150.00 a month to get me to work . My car is not fancy but it is good on gas. The human rights group should give up the time and money spent on signs and tee shirts and start preaching to the protesters to be responsible PAY THEIR ON WAY . New Order National Human Rights Are they riding Marta and C-tran to Clayton County. What a joke. Who is funding this group? Are they getting paid? I would like to see my tax money spent on every one in the county not just a few . Mr. Bell needs to think about what the county needs and not be swayed by a a group from Marietta.

Sprawler

October 21st, 2009
10:47 pm

We’ll have a mass transit system soon; it’ll be MARTA. Then you will “Really” be crying! Clayton’s is population of upward of 300,000; the “Metro” region is growing, sprawling.

Sonja Nipper

October 22nd, 2009
12:47 am

Oh, so the Arrogant and Biased Deborah Benefield has the DA and SG in her back pocket, eh? On, that’s what I thought. The DA’s office works for her, does it? Judge Sua Sponte acts like the judges against whom Isaiah and Jeremiah and Micah and Amos railed. Oh, I am sure that JT is shaking in his white buck shoes. I saw him making picketing signs against the biased and mean-spirited judge, a judge who makes unconscionable decisions on behalf of her political friends. Oh, I Sonja Nipper, declare that JT calls her “a biased and bigoted judge.” Well, I know that this is hearsay, but it is an excited utterance! I must say! I am excited! Clayton County shall rise again! Again? Was it ever on top of anything? It will have that “prominence” again, will it? Perhaps another Tara Night Under the Stars? A Taste of Clayton perhaps? No, surely can we not have some more Tomato Sandwich Rallies. Rev. Whiskey (aka “G. Y.”), you are so profound, and I wish that I could sit at your feet and learn as Saul (aka St. Paul) did at the feet of Gamaliel.

Dr. John Trotter

October 22nd, 2009
1:06 am

This blog is somewhat comical at times. But, I must admit that I do agree with what Ms. Nipper says about Deborah Benefield. I personally think that she is a horrible judge. She is biased. How’s this for you anonymous bloggers? Now, let me get back to the re-runs of FOX and CNN.

Black Woman In Clayco

October 22nd, 2009
9:08 am

I’m glad CTran is on it’s way out. If they wanna work a deal with MARTA to keep the ONE bus route that carries people (the airport one) running in Riverdale ONLY then so be it. But I’ll be happy to no longer see empty buses rolling down Tara and the trash that lines the bus stops gone (not the people, actually papers and garbage). If I attend this protest it will be to support those commissioners who had the guts to vote Ctran out. But if my commissioner decides he will support mass transit in any way shape form or fashion after this then I will work to vote him OUT of office. Hope you’re listening Commissioner Ralph, thanks for doing the right thing the first time but don’t fold.

Cindy

October 22nd, 2009
10:00 am

C-TRAN – I am unsure of the history on C-tran but it seems that it may have been put in place to help the working class people of the county. Some people live in homes, some people lives in apartments that utilize the c-tran. I am just trying to understand why a county would implement a transportation system that would eventually run out of money. Why didn’t clayton county allow Marta to just take over the bus system? Or why didn’t the commissioner’s do a full study before the transportation issue was initated. We residents in clayton county get bits and piece of the story of C-tran. But I haven’t seen one comment that seems like a solution. The facts are: C-tran will stop running as of March 2010, registered voters that utitlize the bus system will still need transportation, if that doesn’t come about, alot of people will be moving to Fulton and other surrounding counties, lives and businesses will be affected negatively. GDOT can give Clayton any money and if they did it would take sometime for it to come. My solution would be to join MARTA and generate more revenue through the increase ridership.
I don’t think this is a place to comment on how bad Clayton County is or the people that live there; we are all just human. Let’s come of with solution because this will indeed have a serious impact on all the surrounding county.

Big Papi

October 22nd, 2009
10:12 am

I paid for your out of wedlock kids that you couldn’t afford to have. I had to subsidize their healthcare and school lunches. Now I have to pay for you and your ill behaved kids to live in my community via sect.8 in a home you can’t afford and won’t take care of. Am I to pay for your bus ride too? Enough is ENOUGH! Goodbye C-Tran!

Rev Billy Bob Whiskey

October 22nd, 2009
11:47 am

20 years ago — BJT, before J T, Clayton had some of the top schools in GA. Your ranting leave to think you and JT are sitting in front of the TV listening to the rambling utterences of the followers of Yahwah-ben-Yahwah, The huckster prophet in jail in Fla. Is that the way JT hypnotizes his followers – with smoke, mirrors and B.S.

Tell The Truth

October 22nd, 2009
2:38 pm

Black Woman In Clayco,
Why would you want to have a bus go only to Riverdale and not Tara too? It sounds like you’re OK with the bus going through parts of Clayton, as long as it’s not where you live. That is kind of a messed up logic. If the buses are not a good idea for your side of town, what makes you think that it would be good on mine? The problem is that buses are a financial burden and are draining the county coffers. It was a bad idea to implement a bus system in Clayton in the beginning. Now, with a looming recession, budget cuts, and high crime, the buses are the least important of Clayton’s 99 problems.

Tell The Truth

October 22nd, 2009
3:14 pm

Cindy,
Prior to the implementation of C-Tran in Clayton, a referendum was placed on the ballot concerning the implementation of a bus system in Clayton. It was overwhelmingly rejected by Clayton’s residents. The commissioners decided to move forward with the idea anyway because it was initially being subsidized by the federal government, not local tax dollars. The idea from the federal government was that they would foot the bill for a few years so the local government would we able to acclimate to adding a bus system to its budget. When the federal governments subsidies ended, it looked like Clayton was doing a good job with C-Tran. It wasn’t until MARTA told us that C-Tran was severely underfunded that the public became aware. Now, because of either gross negligence or cooked books (or a little of both), the commissioners had little time to act in regards to saving C-Tran from MARTA’s threats of cutting them off. Like with the overall county budget, C-Tran’s budget was hemorrhaging while we were being told by Eldrin Bell that everything is alright. In reality, most C-Tran riders are transient residents of the county and are not likely to vote in local affairs. If you don’t believe me, just look at how many residents showed up for the school board meeting when they thought that accreditation was being lost vs. the number who actually showed up to vote for their local school board member.
As far as just going to MARTA isn’t that simple either. To go with MARTA would mean raising local sales taxes which would make Clayton’s taxes higher than any other metro county. If this were to happen, local businesses would suffer, because most people would go to stores outside of Clayton to save money. Why go to Walmart or Kroger in Riverdale when I can save substantially at the stores in Fayette or College Park? Ultimately, this would lead to a number of big chain businesses closing down in an already business starved county.
Lastly, why would the State give Clayton any money when it’s done such a horrible job with running C-Tran? As a resident of Clayton, I agree with you that it is disrespectful to denigrate anybody because of how much money they make or where they live. I think the solution that the commissioners rendered, while problematic for some, is what’s in the best interest of the county. By placating people who ride the bus, the commissioners would be creating problems for future commissioners to deal with. It would be the equivalent to Atlanta’s water problem. It’s pay me now or pay me later.

Clayton is full of Ignorant Black Folk

October 22nd, 2009
9:10 pm

My name says it all.

I could care less what race you are, you are still ignorant

It's None Stop Now!

October 22nd, 2009
10:16 pm

To Big Papi, Tell The Truth and Clayton is full of Ignorant Black Folk! You guys are still living in the “Past!” Clayton county is the closest county to Atlanta; you can get rid of C-Tran and possibly barely miss and I mean “Barely Miss” MARTA Bus Service for NOW, but in the end (2011) you will have to deal with MARTA Bus & Rail System! Clayton’s population is nearly 300,000 the only viable Governmental transportation solution is “Mass Transit”! Meanwhile, WARNING! Move while you can! The other part of the ATL invasion has began! Under Reported is the ATL’s attempt to move all the “ATL Homeless” to suburban homeless shelters in suburban counties. Guess what county heads the list. HaHaHaHaHa!!!!

Derek

October 23rd, 2009
9:43 am

Sorry. folks. but the time of supporting “vote buying” jobs is over. The infastructure for bus system doesn’t exist. Almost no turn-outs, buses sitting at intersections and in the middle of the road leaking oil, running exhaust fumes, blocking traffic, causing hazards for others on the road, for what? 2.2 riders per bus per trip! And thats being generous, if you go below the upper Riverdale, College Park, N Forest Park area. There are almost NO riders! So you get pollution, traffice hazards and pay employees for nothing! The money can be put to better use elsewhere, such as a CCPD precent in S. East Clayton ( ie Rex, Ellenwood area) to protect the value of houses that actually have a decent tax base. Remember those supposed 2,000,000 rides for the year, breaks down to 5,479 per day, divided by 250 buses averaging 10 trips a day equals 2.2 riders per bus per day! THATS IT, and it’s not going to get better…. they’ve tried and tried, nothing works

Big Papi

October 23rd, 2009
11:05 am

Thank you “Tell the Truth” for your well thoughtout and factual comments. Shirley Franklin and Rene Lewis Glover in a masterful and deft stroke dumped Atl’s poorest and most unproductive residents on CC. We were sold out by previous leadership who then absconded from the county. The panhandle, the county’s most livable area was raped by low end development. To “None Stop” at well over 1 million per/mi in construction cost you will NEVER see MARTA rail in CC.

jimmy (conservative brother)

October 23rd, 2009
12:50 pm

Analyzer, thanks brother for the comment on Progressive African American. Maybe one day he will really look into the history of progressive politics.
C-Tran must go! It is clear that the majority of the population wants nothing to do with it and never did. It is apparent that some people still believe in a “free lunch.” There is nothing in this world that is free. Someone has to pay for it and the citizens of this county are sick of paying for it.
There were serious arguments when the Commissioners voted on C-Tran. Those arguments were that C-Tran would bring with it crime, and increased tax burdens on the tax payers. Hind sight is 20/20. It has nothing to do with race either people. The commissioners who voted for C-Tran were all white with the exception of Mrs. Grey and there were many Americans of African decent who argued against it.

Clayton is full of Ignorant Black Folk

October 23rd, 2009
5:40 pm

I’m an inbred hick who only owns a house because my Memaw left it to me. So I know ignorance when I see it.

Resolve

October 23rd, 2009
11:30 pm

I know this is off the subject but I watched the news and Jovita Moore reported the big brawl at Wheeler high school. She said that the brawl was a result of “two opposing groups”. Did she mean gangs and not say it because the school was not a Clayton County school? I wonder….

Shannon, M.Div.

October 24th, 2009
11:59 am

The complete and total lack of compassion for “those people” who ride C-Tran makes me sick.

If Jesus were here and “those people” were forced to leave the county because they couldn’t get to their jobs or schools, I do believe He’d go with them. Peggy Sue Davis et al would probably say “Good riddance. That Jesus fellow didn’t pay His taxes, brought undesirables around, and was generally a drain on the system.”

I hope you’re proud of yourselves.

Prudent Government w/vision

October 24th, 2009
1:46 pm

Mass Transit is coming one way or the other! Prepare yourselves! Clayton’s is population of upward of 300,000; the “Metro” region is growing, sprawling. In the end (2011) you will have to deal with MARTA Bus & Rail System! Clayton’s population is nearly 300,000 the only viable Governmental transportation solution is “Mass Transit”! Meanwhile, WARNING! Move while you can! The other part of the ATL invasion has began! Under Reported is the ATL’s attempt to move all the “ATL Homeless” to suburban homeless shelters in suburban counties. Guess what county heads the list.

Alice Young

October 24th, 2009
5:54 pm

Clayton County Commissioners needs to get it together! YOUR constituents need the PUBLIC transit services. Please do not cut out the services, instead improve them.

Peggy Sue Davis

October 24th, 2009
10:56 pm

Well, a friend of mine attended the protest today and they said that only about 25 people showed up. Furthermore, out of these, only about 5-6 were residents of Clayton County. LOL!!!!

Peggy Sue Davis

October 25th, 2009
9:30 pm

WWJD? Hmm, let’s examine what the Bible says:

Jesus commanded, “Love your neighbor.” When asked to define “neighbor,” Jesus expanded the traditional meaning of the word–defining our neighbor as anyone who is in need, including social outcasts: “But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed.” (Luke 14:13)

2 Thessalonians 3:10 (The Message): Don’t you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” And now we’re getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don’t slack off in doing your duty.

Matthew 25:13-30 – 15 To one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. 16 The one who had received five talents went off right away and put his money to work and gained five more. 17 In the same way, the one who had two gained two more. 18 But the one who had received one talent went out and dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money in it. 19 After a long time, the master of those came and settled his accounts with them. 20 The one who had received the five talents came and brought five more, saying, ‘Sir, you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.’ 21 His master answered, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful in a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 The one with the two talents also came and said, ‘Sir, you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more.’ 23 His master answered, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 24 Then the one who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Sir, I knew that you were a hard man, harvesting where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not scatter seed, 25 so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. See, you have what is yours.’ 26 But his master answered, ‘Evil and lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I didn’t sow and gather where I didn’t scatter? 27 Then you should have deposited my money with the bankers, and on my return I would have received my money back with interest! 28 Therefore take the talent from him and give it to the one who has ten. 29 For the one who has will be given more, and he will have more than enough. But the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 30 And throw that worthless servant into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth’”.

1 Thessalonians 4:11-12 (NIV) – Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you, so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.

universal leon

October 26th, 2009
12:38 am

Traffic is stealing time from our families, poor air quality threatens our health, and our future economic growth is jeopardized.
Yeah..Yeah for Edrin Bell he is quite wise, Clayton County should adjust to his wisdom.
Here is the reason that Clayton is lagging the other METRO counties is that you have not been aggressive engough in politics, wise enough in business, and studious enough in research on the two largest and riches counties in Georgia. Bet you didn’t know those were Gwinnett and Cobb!
Do a history report on Cobb County Community Transit and may be surprise why they are thriving, check into Gwinnett to see how they are up and running.
Now, some of the local businesses may not be able to keep their low paid employees who feed you, tose who keep the gas and convenient store up and running, wash your dirty laundry or service your lawn(well you may not be able to afford a maid or lawn service),
Finally, if you really want to prosper in Clayton County, you want extend your hands to all the help that you can get, or you will miss the boat and it only comes once in twenty years! POSH.
(Transit Planning Board Members)
Chairman
• Eldrin Bell, Clayton County Chairman
Vice-Chairman
• Douglas Tollett (Governor’s Appointee)
Other Gubernatorial Appointees
• Lara O’Connor Hodgson
• Pam Sessions
Agency Representatives
• GDOT Chair, Mike Evans
• GRTA Chair, Walter Deriso
• MARTA Acting Chair, Michael Walls
• MARTA General Manager, Beverly Scott
Local Elected Officials
• Atlanta Mayor, Shirley Franklin
• Cherokee County Chair, Buzz Ahrens
• Cobb County Chair, Sam Olens
• DeKalb County CEO, Vernon Jones
• Douglas County Chair, Tom Worthan
• Fayette County Chair, Jack Smith
• Fulton County Chair, John Eaves
• Gwinnett County Chair, Charles Bannister
• Henry County Chair, Jason Harper
• Rockdale County Chair, Roy Middlebrooks
• Spalding County Chair, Eddie Freeman

Count the riders

October 26th, 2009
6:17 am

According to the MARTA study upon which Dr. Beverly Scott’s presentation to the Clayton County BoC was based, C-Tran services 2.2 million riders per year. Let’s do the math. 2,200,000 divided by 260 (5 work days per week x 52 weeks per year) = 8,461 riders per day. Assuming each rider also needs a ride home, we can divide 8,461 by 2 trips per day = 4,230 daily riders. The report indicated that approximately 66% of riders use C-Tran for work, so lets increase 4,230 by 34% (4,230 x 1.34 = 5,668) to account for all those riders that use C-Tran for destinations other than earning a paycheck. We will even assume that the 34% don’t need a ride home! Now, round up by an additional 5% in order to account for anybody that we left out of the equation (5,668 x 1.05 = 6,000). So, C-Tran realistically services 6,000 daily riders. Since we know that there are 24 buses operating along 5 routes, then we can divide these 6,000 riders anyway that we want and completely reconcile the reality and accuracy of our math. There are 6,000 riders that depend upon C-Tran for daily transportation needs.

Take these 6,000 daily riders into perspective. There are approximately 300,000 residents in Clayton County. 6,000 divided by 300,000 = 2%. If my math is correct, then 98% of Clayton County residents do not ride the bus! In this republic form of democracy in which we live, I should hope that the Board of Commissioners would take into consideration that 98% of the county’s constituents do not use the public transportation service provided by C-Tran.

I could understand the economics if this were a fringe benefit that was easily funded by a few bucks, but $12 million per year out of a $160 million annual operating budget? After fares and grant receipts, $8 million is subsidized from general fund? I thank my Board of Commissioners for correcting a budget problem that they inherited from their predecessors.

Tell the Truth

October 26th, 2009
5:58 pm

Count the Riders,
You just proved how important it is to understand basic arithmetic. BRAVO!!!!!! You just used simple math & logic to soundly destroy any argument against the commissioners decision.

Shannon, M.Div.

October 26th, 2009
9:05 pm

Peggy Sue, some day when you’re reading the Bible, try to learn the difference between admonishments for *Christians* living in *Christian community* and the way that Christians are supposed to treat outsiders. It’s quite eye-opening. I’m glad that you have down how to treat people who profess the name of Christ. Now learn how Christ wants you to treat everyone else. Hint: walk an additional mile with her/him. Give her/him your cloak as well. And turn the other cheek.

Please!

October 26th, 2009
9:54 pm

Sonja Nipper AKA AKA AKA

This is classic Lee Scott! Bet he is setting himself for a run again ! LOL! It is not going to happen in this county.He is a slow learner I guess.

PROVIDE A RIDE

October 27th, 2009
12:04 pm

YES, BELL AND SCOTT NEED TO GO QUICK, FAST, HURRY!!! Help send mouchers back to ATL.

cc ha

October 30th, 2009
1:07 pm

Good Bye C-Tran…..Go back to the SWAT……
My taxes are high enough and we already have enough section 8 houses… So long

masstransitoperator

November 2nd, 2009
3:06 pm

I swear, anyone who sneers at another person for the lowliness of their job, class, religion, race, and where they live, needs to have their garbage and sewage service cut off for five years. After being forced to live in their own filth for a while, they will learn to be grateful for the people who take on jobs that they consider themselves too good for, take 2 or 3 bus routes for, or cleanup after you snotty nose kids have left a mess in a place of business.

DoubleAction

November 2nd, 2009
3:39 pm

If you want public transportation, go back to Atlanta.

Miran Belyue

November 3rd, 2009
6:31 am

This comment goes out to those nameless, faceless cowards that hurl racist insults against those that may not be at the same station in life as they may be. C-tran provides a valuable service for thousands of residents. Whether a homeowner or not they are still residents. The Commission is charged with responsibility to take into account all residents when making decisions that will adversly affect any one of these. If these individuals were not attempting to work then they would be considered as a burden on the system. What about the millions in federal grants that clayton county has failed to secure which would free up funds that was formally taken from the “General” fund. I may not ride c-tran everyday however i make it priority to to reduce my carbon emmissions footprint by riding c-tran to the airport to then proceeding to atlanta for business. Just think if we all made use of public transportation we could ultimately drive fuel prices down thus bring demand down. And it is also FACT that counties which has a viable and reliable Transportation system oftentimes are the ones that attract new Companies, Corporations, And industries. So this issue extends much further than as some here have put “a problem for African- American Renters”. And as far the New Order organization is concerned those who just sit on the side lines as others fight for the disenfranchised are nothing more than a clashing symbol without a conductor a momentary uncompfortable noise. I applaud Mr. Rose and New Order for being concerned about those would be affected by this decision. I wonder, What ever happened to compassion for fellow man, and their efforts to support their families.

Tell The Truth

November 4th, 2009
1:36 pm

Look at how low the election results are in elections for people who directly affect the lives of the residents of Clayton. This is why eliminating the bus system is not even going to be a blip on the radar in a few months. People can show up to complain (school board meetings last year), but don’t show up to vote. Its not just Clayton, Americans in general are a bunch of whiny complainers who can tell you the starting line up of their favorite athletic teams, but who can’t tell you who’s responsible for paving their streets or who represent their other local interests.

Clayton County Election Results

Results from AJC and WSB-TV. Complete election coverage
Clayton County – Forest Park – City Council Ward 1
Candidate Votes
Thomas Smith, Jr. 98 37%
Sparkle Adams 87 33%
Kimberly James 78 30%

Updated Nov-04-2009 12:42 AM 16% reporting (1 of 1 precincts)
Clayton County – Forest Park – City Council Ward 2
Candidate Votes
Donald E. Wright 125 44%
Karen-Brandee Williams 124 43%
Deverick Williams 36 13%

Updated Nov-04-2009 12:42 AM 16% reporting (1 of 1 precincts)
Clayton County – Forest Park – Mayor
Candidate Votes
Corine C. Deyton 622 57%
Darnell Moorer 272 25%
Christine Ellington 191 18%

Updated Nov-04-2009 12:42 AM 16% reporting (1 of 1 precincts)
Clayton County – Jonesboro – City Council
Candidate Votes
Pat Sebo 160 19%
Clarence Mann 133 16%
Joe Compton 131 16%
Billy Powell 124 15%
Brad Johnson 123 15%
Rick Yonce 119 14%
Shawn Wooten 38 5%

Updated Nov-04-2009 12:42 AM 5% reporting (1 of 1 precincts)
Clayton County – Riverdale – City Council Ward 1
Candidate Votes
Cynthia Stamps-Jones 297 57%
Oritha “Rick” Scoggins, Jr. 222 43%

Updated Nov-04-2009 12:50 AM 100% reporting (1 of 1 precincts)
Clayton County – Riverdale – City Council Ward 2
Candidate Votes
Wanda Wallace 278 57%
Veverly A. Brooks 208 43%

Clatyon Resident

November 4th, 2009
3:00 pm

Nice try, but you can’t compare a few local elections to a countywide election.

I DOUBLE DARE the Commissioners and/or legislature to put C-Tran’s fate in the hands of Clayton voters. Some of us are actually looking forward to that! Look what the majority of voters did last time around & certain incumbents (Victor Hill; Jewel Scott; Virginia Gray; Lee Scott) didn’t see us coming. The people who don’t vote are the ones who ride buses most and even if they do show up, it’s been widely reported that they only represent a measly 2% of Clayton’s population. Even if every single one of that 2% showed up at the polls (unlikely), there’s still 98% out there & I’ll bet money the majority of that 98% will vote to get rid of C-Tran.

The Old Man In The "C"

November 15th, 2009
7:42 pm

Many people of Clayton County did not know that this fantastic agreement of Commissioner Bell’s C-Tran was a plan back when Crandle Bray was Commission Chairman and the President of the Atlanta City Council. You see Bray already new that they were going to shut down all of the housing projects in Atlanta, so they needed someone to work for them in Clayton who had a name that Atlanta residents were familiar with,up popped Bell. Remember the first time he came in, he could not get elected because he did not live here either.

After living in the county, and being eligible to run for office the plan was hatched as it seems for him to take all of Atlanta’s undesirables to Clayton County. They planned for him to take the section – vouchers, and would create an attractive transit system to keep them pacified. But who had to pay for this? The poor old Clayton County taxpayers and established residents were again force to fork over their hard earned funds for his generous, thoughtless acts. The people complaining ought to be behind some of these school buses when they stop at the apartment complexes and wait for twenty minutes while the entire bus empties. NO TAX PAYERS here but the home owners who have no children have to pay for the schools and the parents transportation also. Bull, I feel like so many others that yes people need away to get to work, doctors visits. and other engagements, but not at the expense of others. Mr. Bell new this and did not care, that is why he was the only one to vote for C-Tran. This was a clean county with a low crime rate, now the police, sheriff, fire and other public safety officials run twenty-four seven because in the words of some of our people, “It Ain’t Mine, let somebody else clean it up”. See Ya C-Tran and hopefully in the next election, Mr. Bell( Don’t even think about it Mr Scott) We have had enough!!!

ClayCo Resident

November 20th, 2009
11:18 am

I’m so glad CTran is gone!! I DARE them to put it on the ballot!lol Sorry bus riders, start looking for new apartments/rental houses in Fulton/Dekalb..see ya!

Brandon

March 16th, 2010
6:37 pm

Transit is necessary, Transit creates jobs, allow people to go to work. It allows people without vehicles to spend. The transit is absolutely necessary. You watch and wait… Clayton County thinks its strapped for cash and can’t afford C-Tran. It’s going to be even more strapped for cash. Those people who ride the bus generate a hefty tax dollars which will cut Clayton County’s throat. There will be job losses. Money loss due to less taxes coming in. So by saving money also decreases the county’s income. I hope the savings offset the decrease.

Brandon

March 17th, 2010
11:03 am

There has been no analysis done about the impact of closing C-Tran. Most people do no realize that for every dollar put in to a transit system you will get four to nine dollars back in the local economy.

The closing of C-Tran will do damage to jobs, universities, shopping centers, and the local government itself.

Tax dollars generated by C-Tran’s ridership will be lost, jobs that depend on the transit system will be lost…

There is stupid arguments saying that the transit systems increase crimes. Get the facts. Several Studies have been done that prove that transit systems do not increase crime.