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Although former Sheriff Victor Hill is long gone, Clayton County is still dealing with the ramifications of lawsuits incurred and decisions made during his tenure.

Eleven Clayton County police officers recently filed a federal lawsuit accusing the county of violating its own policies and procedures, among other things. Derived from the 2007 settlement in favor of 27 deputies wrongfully terminated by Hill, seven lieutenant positions were created within the Clayton County Police Department specifically for them. This left some police officers who worked long and hard for their promotions and the perks that came with them out to dry.

Although a few officers did get promoted earlier this year, the Board of Commissioners revoked those promotions after delaying funding to pay for them. After a two year dispute, the officers became ineligible for promotion completely last March. The lawsuit was filed before the statute of limitations expired, seeking punitive damages, attorney fees and retroactive back pay, rank and seniority as of July 2007.

While I believe those police officers are entitled to whatever they’re due dating back to July 2007, it’s just too bad that taxpayers may again have to pay for someone else’s mistakes.

Do you support the officers in this lawsuit? Why or why not? Further, given the drama Hill is still creating in absentia (including the missing equipment investigation), doesn’t this make you appreciate our current sheriff, Kem Kimbrough even more? Who knew we could have a sheriff sans the drama, television sound bites, bodyguards, tanks, etc.

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July 20th, 2009
11:26 am

I hope all the people who supported Victor Hill feel real stupid. He barely lost the election and I had people tell me they were leaving CC
because he lost.

I’m not all that thrill with Kimbrough, he just smart enough to keep his dirty off the news and right now I can live with that.
I’m not crazy about .


July 20th, 2009
1:22 pm

I find the LACK of news surrounding the current Sheriff and District Attorney to be extremely refreshing. I’m certainly glad we have abandoned the Victor Hill school of PR, whose mantra was “any publicity is good publicity.” I don’t miss the Jewel Scott “Justice with Mercy” signs either…Judges and Juries are supposed to be merciful when it is warranted, DA’s are supposed to prosecute…period.


July 20th, 2009
2:52 pm

The taxpayers elected Victor…Elections have consequences!


July 20th, 2009
4:43 pm

Yes, let’s give them the retroactive pay and perks they are asking for. Let’s clean up Hill’s messes once and for all. Good riddance!


July 20th, 2009
6:00 pm

Pride gets no pleasure out of having something, only out of having more of it than the next man. Sheriffs do what Victor did all the time the only difference is, in Clayton whites still stomp which includes an unjust justice system. A system designed to uphold white supremacy! Even after we just witnessed the “Illegal Meetings” episode in Cobb which will go unpunished, I remember Clayton’s current DA saying she would have charged the old final four BOE members with malfeasance. It would have been a total miscarriage of justice. She’ll be a one-termer!


July 20th, 2009
8:10 pm

And there were actually people in this county and some posting at the forums that were in support of that idiot Victor Hill! Eldrin Bell told us all like it is “this is what happens when people vote for color instead of qualificatioins.” A well functioning Sheriffs Dept. although not perfect, went to hell in a hand basked in just four years just because the majority of CC voters have not one clue, nor do they seem to care about qualifications and ability – the *we gotta get our man in there* attitude proves how stupid people can be sometimes and that they follow like sheep. Baaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Sheep Herder

July 20th, 2009
9:27 pm

If you had a Multi-Million Dollar Campaign running against you by the rich clandestine society here in Clayton you’d be “Vilified” too. Until the populous wise up like they have. Election year 2010 have something for you! After witnessing the accreditation andthe cobb illegal meeting debalces. It’s as clear as black and white!


July 21st, 2009
6:27 am

I don’t have any proof that our sheriff is dirty, but it sounds good since my guy didn’t win.


July 21st, 2009
10:15 am

Amazing how some still worship Lil Vic. He is black – so of course he can do no wrong – just blame whitey. If you are a politician and want to work to make things better for all – you are labeled a Uncle Tom. Some people just do not have the ability to know, right from wrong – good from bad. All have the right to vote – too bad they do not take the responsibility to “know” the issues and for whom they vote.

Somebody must know

July 21st, 2009
10:46 am

This comment was asked of Kimberly last week, but was suddenly removed from the blog. Kimberly, is there any way you can find out, out of the literally dozens of stories AJC reporters did on Clayton and accreditation, not one single story was done on SACS and how they do business?

I think it is reasonable to assume, since SACS accredits public schools, that SACS gets a large portion of its funds from taxpayers. So one would think, giving the costs of losing accreditation, and how long the story played in the AJC, the AJC would have written at least one story on SACS wouldn’t they have?

Sorry to interrupt those who wanted to blog about Walking Small. But this question was on the Double Standard? blog last week, only to be removed. And attempts to ask others at the AJC why they haven’t done even one story have been met with very evasive answers.

Maybe someone is willing to tell Kimberly what no one is willing to tell the readers and hopefully she can provide some insight; that is, unless they remove her comment as well LOL


July 21st, 2009
12:45 pm

Victor Hill was a menace to this county and still is. I’ll bet all the people supporting him on this blog months ago were ordered and paid to do so by Hill himself. The one true thing Eldrin has ever said is we will be paying for that mistake for YEARS to come.


July 22nd, 2009
8:07 am

Victor although some of his action didn’t seem to be thought out was a decent sheriff. He wasn’t led by politic and he laid it all on the table. The new sheriff is a politician. Just keep in mind whatever is done in the dark will come to light. Like all sheriff before him and afterward youall will turn against this sheriff as well when he has to make an unpopular decision. I can appreciate victor stance on crime because he went after the criminal element and he got those lazy deputies out their lazy behinds and put them on the streets earning the pay check. All the bootlegg houses are back in business since victors departure. Crime is rising and now we have home evasion. You sometimes get what you ask for.


July 22nd, 2009
10:28 am

Realworld – WOW.

Lil Vic was not led by politics??? Are you from this planet? Victor’s nose was planted in the posterior region of Lee Scott. It was nothing but political. He gave that overblown bully and bigot, a Deputy badge and a gun – for nothing more than political favor. The only lawbreakers he went after were the ones he could garner a TV spot for – all dressed up in his gold-replenished Sgt. Pepper outfit. And if he had put his deputies to work in the field instead of working for his campaign or being his personal bodyguard, maybe he would not have left the county with 20,000 unserved warrants – some years old. Was that cause he was working in conjunction with DA Scott – pretty, but under-the-thumb of husband Lee Scott?


July 22nd, 2009
1:07 pm

Victor Hill is now working security at Philps Plaza in Buckhead.


July 22nd, 2009
1:19 pm

Realworld lives in his own world. So did Victor. Must have been the same one.


July 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm

We all want progress, but if you’re on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; in that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive. Like someone said earlier Victor cleaned up more crime than this sheriff ever will. He’s a one-termer for sure! The ‘Puritanical” minority in Clayton are deceivers paused to run this county amuck. We need to return a champion crime fighter to that position. Dispossessed will make a come back in 2010. Get your “Multi-Million Dollar Media” assault ready!


July 22nd, 2009
10:17 pm

Realworld lives in a different world! LOL!


July 23rd, 2009
12:05 pm

Victor could not be elected DogCatcher. No offense meant to our public servants in the Animal Control unit.

Phred Dollar

July 23rd, 2009
1:12 pm

Lil Vic working security at Phipps? lol Guess the high end jeans places will be empty by the end of the year. What a promotion in life. Just what he deserves.


July 23rd, 2009
1:35 pm

Here is an article on Bell helping his crooked corrupt friends
from Atlanta do business in CC. Michael Hightower runs this Collaborative Firm


Kimberly if you’re not familar with him, here is an artile about him.


Troubled County

July 23rd, 2009
2:11 pm

It’s not the public officials it’s the clandestine society that’s the problem here in Clayton. The public officials are bought and paid for by the secret society!


July 23rd, 2009
5:28 pm

oooooeeeewwwwwwwww the bogeyman is out there. Grow up people


July 23rd, 2009
5:30 pm

raja so you should only hire strangers?

phred dollar

July 24th, 2009
9:35 am

Secret Society? LMAO It IS the public officials, the thugs, thug wannabes and those that vote for officials because they’re black. I’m black, vote for ME. I don’t know jack about running a county but I’m black and that’s all I need. Everyone that voted for Eldrin Bell knew he was crooked. But would rather vote for him than the carpetbagger Lee Scott who was a LOT worse.


July 24th, 2009
12:22 pm


I don’t trust Michael Hightower; he represent a long history of corruption in Atlanta local politics. I don’t trust him with my tax dollars and neither should you.

Someone use my name to post on this blog. The 2nd raja post did not come from me.

Still a supporter

July 26th, 2009
4:18 pm

I can say I miss Victor Hill and I don’t feel stupid. People have to realize that everything he did was not wrong. As everyone says Kimbrough just keeps his dirty news in house.


July 27th, 2009
8:48 am

to supporter – Then there was the one about a little girl – lost in the woods – who found a home where one porridge was too hot – one too cold and one just right. Live blissfully.


August 2nd, 2009
11:35 am

Yes, Walking Small was a failure and a disgrace. BUT, the county became a willing partner when it created positions in the CCPD to try to make amends. Conversely, I’m against paying for promotions and back pay for positions that should not and do not exist. The county is ‘broke’ and is trying to ‘finally’ save some money; cut the budget. It’s painful and not everyone will be happy with the process. Ce la vie.


August 2nd, 2009
1:38 pm

Despite all the people that set out from day one to sabotage him, Sheriff Hill never strayed from making Clayton County a safer county. Now look at things, daytime home invasions/murders, burgarlies are on the steady increase and so are murders. This county is really benefiting from the new Sheriff and Police Dept. working together, yeah right! I’m calling for Sheriff Hill to run again and help with this increase in crime. Bring back the Cobra Unit. Sheriff Kembrough is not cutting it!


August 3rd, 2009
9:54 am

to lil vic supporter – if lil Vic was “all about crime” in Clayton – how come he left 20,000 unserved warrants – those were his job – and he failed miserably. As far as the shadow from Victor – the only shadow around Vic was that cast by his ever present 6 foot 4 inch bodyguard. of course – at 5 foot 4 inches – Lil Vic felt he needed backup. His Sgt. Pepper outfit did not scare anyone.


August 3rd, 2009
1:10 pm

BB The amount of warrants that any Sheriff’s Office has is play on words. Warrants come in all day, everyday. It only costs $20 dollars to take a warrant out on anyone, for anything. Warrants will always, and I do mean always be there. If you go to the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office right now, I bet you there are more than 20,000 unserved warrants there right now! Bottom line we know there are politics involved in this. You are a person that like to spin the politics to confuse the public. It doesn’t work with me. For me it’s about quality of life. Crime has significantly gotten worse since Sheriff Kembrough has taken office. He has not done anything in eight months. He had no clue on how to combat crime. His only goal was to get Sheriff Hill out of office. Now that he has accomplished that goal, he is now lost and confused. He is definently a one term Sheriff.


August 3rd, 2009
5:58 pm

IF only that were true. Sorry to burst your bubble – but I hear the warrants are already down below 15,000 and going down. It was not all Sheriff Hill’s problem tho – his mentor and husband of the DA at the time – had him doing other things, right Lee. And the fact that the DA -Jewel Scott was as incompetent as lil Vic did not help matters either.


August 4th, 2009
7:53 pm

what about when lil vic left his office and could not be found, for weeks. Really fighting crime huh? If i recall the sheriffs department was a well oiled machine and crime was at its all time lowest when sheriff Tuggle was in office. He wasent so bad after all.


August 4th, 2009
9:30 pm

Tater- Sheriff Tuggle? Isn’t that the Sheriff that got on the local news and said that Clayton County DID NOT have a gang problem, when everyone under the sun was saying differently! Law Enforcement had been passed Stanley by. You sound like your screen name: A TATER!


August 4th, 2009
9:42 pm

BB- There you go playing politics again! I’m going to help you stay on track, because you conveniently side-stepped commenting on how the crime has worsen in the past 8 months under Sheriff Kembrough’s watch. When Sheriff Kembrough took office on January 1st, he was the local news holding hands with Clayton County Police Chief Jeff Turner, talking about how they have form this alliance to combat crime in the county and I also remember them issuing a stern warning to the criminal element to beware! We see how much that speech scared the criminal element: Increased burglaries, Increased home invasions, Increased robberies, etc. etc. Once again Sheriff Kembrough should be a one term Sheriff! P.S. He has a law practice to fall back on!


August 5th, 2009
1:54 pm

Vic was a one term sheriff – the rep of Clayton for criminals was laughable under Vic – they knew he was all about the TV screen and not substance. The people understood that and voted his behind out. Where the heck is little man now – surely Home Depot will take him back as a Rent-a-cop. Maybe he is doing work for the man – Lee Scott. With bad elements coming in during Vic’s time – the crime may continue for a time – until they realize Turner and Kimbrough are not “walking small”. Time will tell. Funny – you want to judge the new sheriff for the first 6 months of his term – are you up for doing the same to Obama.


August 5th, 2009
1:55 pm

Are you suggesting that we should have kept Sheriff Tuggle? Are you serious? Keeping Sheriff Tuggle was not an option. Please be sure to know your history when it comes to Clayton County. This is a county historically run by Klan and “Good Ole Boys” and check your history once again, Tuggle in his 20+ years as sheriff, has done more than Victor Hill ever could have, if not worse. The problem was and always will be, when a person of color attempts to challenge the position of a White person, everything that can be done, will be done to keep him down. You can’t keep a good man down, look at OBAMA!

Rev Whiskey

August 5th, 2009
2:08 pm

DA Jewel Scott ?? Wasn’t that the one that said – “I am not going to put any more innocent black youth in jail”. She went a step further – she and her department let a 19 year old murderer get away scot-free. That was gimme to the gangs. Thank you Jewel.


August 5th, 2009
5:34 pm

Look how the county is run now. Its real great. Really a good place to raise your kids right? Nothing but abunch of thugs running the county, the pd can only do so much with resources they have and hurdles they had to jump. Maybe they should have considered letting Jeff Turner take walking smalls place and running the PD. Keep it up Turner.


August 5th, 2009
5:39 pm

The only people who voted color in Clayton 4, 6, and 8 years ago were black. It never was about Vic being black – it was about his past and his attitude. Blacks were also the voters that kicked him out because they finally woke up and decided they wanted good representation, not just black representation. The blacks of this county voted for the person – cases in point – Sheriff Kimbrough – black, Solicitor General Mosley – black, DA Lawton – white, Commish Chair Bell – black. BOE – 6 black, 2 white. The voters should be congratulated – they voted better than the whites would have 20 years ago given the opposite situation.


August 5th, 2009
8:00 pm

BB-It is hard keeping you focus! You want to continue to evade talking about the rise in crime in the county. Now, you want to bring President Obama and race into the picture. Let re-focus on the issue. Since you want to be a pom-pom waving cheerleader for Sheriff Kembrough, you tell me what has he accomplished since being in office? Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock, times up! I’ll tell you, NOTHING! Now you want to try to confuse things again by bringing the President into this. He is in Washington, D.C., we are in Jonesboro, Georgia. The President does not have anything to do with this, that is about the chief law enforcement officer of the county Sheriff Kemuel Kembrough. I can’t wait until election time!


August 6th, 2009
8:52 am

Sad that you cannot think but on one subect at a time. It is also sad you cannot comprehend blog comments. You center in on 8 words out of over 100. Go back, read again on Hill and the voters of Clayton. Sad that you and others like you – John T and Glen D give the voters no credit. You ask what Kimbrough has done – the most important thing has been to make the title of job of Sheriff in Clayton County not a subject for national ridicule.


August 6th, 2009
5:16 pm

BB-There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills. I comprehend that YOU refuse to address the issue of crime in Clayton County. I comprehend that YOU can’t give one accomplishment by Sheriff Kembrough since taking office. Since YOU have NO answers for me and the public, let ME give YOU an assignment. Since YOU state that since taking office Sheriff Kembrough has not subjected the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office to national ridicule, then I need YOU to find out why some of his Correctional Officers (including a Correctional Lieutenant) were arrested in Butts County for fleeing and eluding, also this assignment is for extra credit. I need YOU to find out why one of Sheriff’s Kembrough deputies (A Captain) was driving drunk in Fulton County on July 25, 2009, in an unmarked Dodge Charger, running lights and siren (for no official reason), had an four car accident and totalled the Charger. Your great Sheriff Kembrough responded to the scene, brought this Captain some salt and vinegar potato chips to mask the smell of the alcohol, and then proceeded to orchestrate a massive cover-up of the entire incident. The Atlanta Police Department allowed this to happen, since they were on scene and it occurred in their jurisdiction. This is YOUR assignment if YOU choose to accept it!


August 6th, 2009
9:32 pm

BB- Here is another assignment.Should you choose to accept it!! Enlighten us on Sheriff Kembrough impregnating one of his deputies and then paying for her abortion. I THOUGHT HE WAS MARRIED! THIS DOES NOT SAY MUCH FOR HIS MORALITY.


August 6th, 2009
9:46 pm

raja- How dare Victor Hill try to keep the citizens informed unlike Kembrough. At least with Sheriff Hill there was no secrecy or clandestine operations. Sheriff Hill was a true crime fighter. Sheriff Kembrough is a true do Boy!!!!


August 7th, 2009
9:40 am

What we do know is the facts of what happened during Lil Vic’s tenure. Here are a few of his stellar accomplishments:

- did a great job going after the extremely scary and oh so dangerous to Clayton residents, the criminals of massage parlors, gambling rooms and video poker
- fires 27 officers, mostly white, with snipers branding assault rifles on the roof of the jail, because he was paranoid he would be attacked
- vainly had to have his name painted on all Sheriff vehicles and had a custom blue light display on his work vehicle grille in the shape of a “V” for Victor
- dressed like a Michael Jacson wannabe – he got that from Elgin
- banned Clayton police officers from the jail building
- illegally using drug forfeiture funds and vending machine funds
- discrimination lawsuits brought by black and white accusers
- 7 million dollars in one lost lawsuit – many more lawsuits pending
- false arrests
- refused to work / co-operate with other law agencies in the state
- Civil Service violations
- ignored rulings of the Civil Service board
- ignored rulings of the state court – violating court orders
- racial hiring and firing – state and federal racial bias suits
- object of investigation by the state of Georgia
- object of investigation by Federal authorities
- object of investigation by Equal Employment office
- had a habit of using his various second-in-command officers as scapegoats for his own actions then firing them
- his hiring of known criminals as deputies
- he gave “Daddy” Lee Scott a Deputy badge and the right to carry a gun in that capacity
- refused to allow press to be present at his public meetings
- illegal employment terminations not associated with the 27 on his first day
- AWOL from his job as Sheriff much of the last 3 months of his term – even his own employees not knowing where he was
- inhumane treatment of inmates in the county jail
- ordered those under his command to do illegal activities
- sued by his own lawyer
- refusal to work with the new Sheriff-elect during transition – public safety violation
- missing equipment including weapons and keys to the jail -gues that explains the transition problem
- his accusation while running for office that Sheriff Tuggle was corrupt that he bought and warehoused 1 million bedsheets – only to find the sheets he referred to were actually paper towel sheets one uses when drying your hands after washing them
- ducked any responsibility by filing bankruptcy as soon as he left office – making personal judgements against him moot
Yeah boy – Victor was THE MAN. Little man – BIG JOKE.

Have a good day, Victor – wherever you are.


August 7th, 2009
9:48 am

You really did not know the relationship between Victor and Lee Scott – did you. Lee Scott had a do-boy in Victor and a do-girl in his wife. They did nothing with out his say-so. Who to harrass – who to employ – who to leave alone. He only needed the Chairmanship to complete his kingdom. Thankfully the voters saw thru him and defeated not only Lee Scott but also his wife Jewel Scott and his protege’ – Victor Hill.


August 7th, 2009
10:35 am

to all you walking small supporters who are associating crime going up with the new Sheriff clearly have no idea how the system works. lets break it down for you small minded people.

The Police: well see they are the ones who actually go out and arrest criminals in the act or through investigations. This can be anything from drugs, DUI’s, guns, illegal driving, or traffic stops.

The Sheriff’s dept: this group of fine officers are the people who are responsible for running the jail, working in courts and serving warrants.

i hope this simple break down clarifies the roles they play in most functioning counties.

i get soo sick of people with no education or background saying that because of the Sheriff crime has gone up. for your information, crime is going up everywhere across the country for several reasons; one being the reccession and the other lack of jobs.


August 7th, 2009
1:16 pm

BB- 95% of what you posted is totally incorrect. You must distinquish fact from fiction. By the way what happened with the so called federal and state investigations?


August 7th, 2009
1:31 pm

Michael- I am always surprised to find that those who feel their level of intelligence is superior to others seem to always make the most ignorant comments. In most cases they are attempting to compensate for something. Did you know there are only 59 counties in the state of Georgia of which less than 15 have a county police department, which means the Sheriff’s Dept. is responsible for all policing functions. Which saves the taxpayers from paying for duplicate services. Sheriff’s deputies have statewide arrest powers whereas county police can only arrest within their jurisdiction.