Would you miss the C-Tran?

(author is Kimberly Allen)

Budget cuts and financial losses may force Clayton County to reduce its bus service.

According to the AJC, Chairman Eldrin Bell is “vehemently opposed to any cuts to transit.” But should C-Tran (or whomever takes over) be exempt while the rest of the county is forced to cut back? Just think of all the other county services that $8 million could pay for. Our police and sheriff departments could always use extra cash, as well as the district attorney’s office which recently used seized drug money to pay furloughed employees.

The buses I’ve seen rolling down Tara Boulevard are never filled to capacity – even during rush hour. With an $8 million price tag and low ridership on some routes, it seems like the county is throwing good money after bad in this scenario.  Do you ride the bus?  Would losing C-Tran affect your lifestyle at all?  Are you willing to pay a fare hike to keep service going?

Also, what are your thoughts on Tax Commissioner Terry Baskin’s claim that there’s no reason for the county to have a deficit since his office collected $3 million more than last year’s budget? What about KPMG’s firing after saying the county had “accounting deficiencies”?

Finally, send up some prayers for Clayton County Public Schools. SACS is in town this week to review the progress made and determine whether or not our schools will regain accreditation. While many believe this to be a formality, a little positive reinforcement can’t hurt.

56 comments Add your comment

The Commentor

April 13th, 2009
3:43 pm

Here are my responses to your questions for citizens’ thoughts, opinions, viewpoints, and observations on your blog topic for the week:

The C-Tran bus transit system was in my opinion a mistake and a money drainer and loser from its beginning under the previous Clayton County Board Of Commissioners leadership which was championed by former Commissioner Virginia Gray and supported by Chairman C.
Crandle Bray, and Commissioners J. Charley Griswall, Commissioner Gerald Matthews and Commissioner Carl Rhodenizer in the late 1990’s and early 2000’s.

C-Tran was not form properly, not budgeted correctly to provide minimal cost to the citizens of Clayton County and was designed to cost the county money on the “back end” and not cost money on the “front end” as it is doing now.

C-Tran is one of the main reasons for the decline of Clayton County as it is the main mode of transportation of many of the undesirables, unsavory, and criminal element of people living in Clayton County with many from the housing projects of the city of Atlanta, Georgia who have relocated to Clayton County, mainly because of the cheap housing and apartment homes and having a means of transportation such as the C-Tran bus system.

I do not ride the C-Tran Bus System, losing C-Tran would not affect my lifestyle at all, and they need to raise the fares to pay for improvements and added costs to run the C-Tran bus system.

It is my opinion that Clayton County Tax Commissioner Terry Baskin claims are valid in that there is no reason for Clayton County to have a deficit and I feel that any deficit that Clayton County has is due to the mismanagement, misuse, and imcompetence of the county financial officials handling the money and that they need to do a full, complete, and comprehensive Forensic Audit of all the counties’ finances to determine if indeed this has occured.

It is my opinion that the firing of KPMG, Clayton County’s accounting firm who discovered these accounting deficiencies such not have occured as KPMG is a very reputable, professional, and well-established firm who could have worked with the county to correct their accounting deficiences.

Lastly, the Clayton County Public School System will gain their accreditation back, although I personally feel that their will be some form of probationary status attached to it for a small length of time before full, complete, and total accreditation without any probationary status can be achieved.

Long time county resident

April 13th, 2009
3:46 pm

I wouldn’t miss C-Tran at all. I have wondered in the past about the financial stability of C-Tran. I have NEVER seen a full bus. I agree with the cuts in service. You can’t keep beating a dead horse.

And in regards to the Tax Commissioner’s “claim that there’s no reason for the county to have a deficit since his office collected $3 million more than last year’s budget?” Obviously his office is collecting the money, but the crooks at the county commissioners office are mis-spending it.

Black Woman In Clayco

April 13th, 2009
3:53 pm

I wouldn’t miss C-Tran at all. Don’t know anybody who rides it so I don’t even know anybody benefitting from it, if I did maybe I’d feel different.

Two words regarding Terry Baskin’s comments: FORENSIC AUDIT.

CCPS will get its accreditation back, its not perfect but definitely better than that last group of losers who call themselves a board. At least the graduating seniors will have one less thing to worry about.

John Stewart

April 13th, 2009
5:14 pm

C-Tran what can be said about it? Kill it, Cut it, Bury it!!!!

Another example of the bad planning of the former Commissioners that is now affecting us. If Eldrin is so concerned with ridership ask for some ridership reports from C-Tran to see what routes are the busiest. Trust me a lot of fat can be trimmed in this regards.

@ Black Woman in Clayco – I am with you 200%. FORENSIC AUDIT!!!!

@ The Commentor I agree with you the the firing of KPMG wasn’t right. You are exactly right about KPMG. This firm works with audits for Fortune 100 companies and you are going to tell me they were wrong in the accounting of the county?

2 words – FORENSIC AUDIT!!

Time to dig up the county skeletons and pull of the leeches.

Tax Paying Non-Rider

April 13th, 2009
6:40 pm

Wholeheartedly agree that an audit is in order. It is about accountability.

Future Shock

April 13th, 2009
7:11 pm

The funding for the C-Train will almost surpass what rails from ATL to Hampton would cost in a few years. CAN the C-Train immediately; if not sooner! Of Course the district will get accreditation by in whole or in part. The issue have never been about education, the kids or mandates! It’s alway has been about MONEY,People and Politics. Of course those people who helped revoke accreditation has cost the county plenty jobs in CCPS over 400, lower property value, Higher taxes,run businesses out of town and cost CCPS well over 23 million dollars. Good job Clandestine Society! you couldn’t predict the future, could you!

Love Me or Leave Me

April 13th, 2009
7:20 pm

Yes, I will miss C-Tran because I use it to go to another school. We all are going to need C-Tran when our County Officials raise our taxes because our County Elected Officials have not Paid their Taxes and the County is 9 million dollars in the Red. An audit needs to be done and then you all will see that the reason the County is 9 million dollars in the red is because the last CCBOE had put a halt on the Commissioners getting money and business from the CCBOE. Get a real/true Forensic Audit not a joke like the CCBOE had from Brock. So, we better keep C-Tran and we probably will need MARTA soon when they finish clearing out the Apartments.

Get Real or Get Back

April 13th, 2009
7:28 pm

Will CCBOE get its Accrediation back? Sure they will. They didn’t have anything to do but wait on time. Mark Elgart cannot or will not take Accrediation again because he knows that all Eyes are on him and he also understands that SACS is a Private Agency and they need to stay in existence. THE CCBOE will receive its accrediation because the Governor violated the voters of this County once which was truly Unconstitutional and they wouldn’t dare violate 9 districts voters rights. All of this has been a sham and a farce. It has really caused this County a lot of heart aches and pain but, I guess the Commissioner, Mr. Johnson, Eddie, and Erica really didn’t think it through when they mastered minded this great event. They didn’t think about the impact this would have on the county. They just wanted to get rid of a few board members and let business run as usual. So, CCBOE will receive it Accrediation because the old board is history and Thompson is out.

Politically incorrect!

April 13th, 2009
8:16 pm

Commentor,

I agree with your post. It is not politically correct but it is the truth. Atlanta plans to close down 5 more housing projects. As Atlanta purge itself of its undesirable citizens, its school systems are winning awards, its Superintendent wins a national award. Unfortunately, Clayton, Dekalb and Soutn Fulton are paying the price for Atlanta’s awards.

Clayton needs a plan to counter the closing of these projects. Is someone willing to do the research concerning the crime statistics in the vacinity of these projects. Maybe our commissioners will see this as a public safety issue and protect the law abiding citizens that are here.

Allowing the transit system to go away is one way to counter the undesirables coming to Clayton. I think Clayton needs to follow suit with Gwinnett and petition the federal government for permission to deport illegals once they are jailed.

The one problem Clayton has to overcome is Eldrin Bell connections to Atlanta. He will never fight for Clayton in opposition to the “big wigs” in Atlanta.

Let me also add our commissioners are out of their league. Atlanta’s city council is more experience, more connected, has a long term vision for Atlanta and are professional politicians. I think about how they offered Clayton an olympic event in 1996 to distract the county as they moved its first wave of undesirables into the county. A genius move for Atlanta!

Kimberly, Kimberly, Kimberly

April 13th, 2009
8:16 pm

Kimberly, you want us to bow down to the God of Elgart, that he may give us accreditation back? That’s about as necessary as making an animal sacrifice to the Sun God, in the hopes the sun will come up tomorrow.

The political reality is, as sure as the sun will rise, Elgart WILL restore accreditation, even if someone on the board suddenly developed some backbone and told him to stick it where the sun don’t shine. Politically speaking, he has no choice but to.

Bow down to a false god if you want to, but it won’t do a single thing to help the actual teaching conditions in ClayCo. After all, what does every other disaster of school system that participates in SACS have in common? They are ALL accredited.

It’s not about the children with SACS. It’s about bidness.

TC

April 13th, 2009
8:28 pm

Get rid of it. We don’t need it.

The Commentor

April 13th, 2009
11:02 pm

TO POLITICALLY INCORRECT

Thank you for your positive comments and understanding and seeing what I posted on about Clayton County’s C-Tran Bus System.

Even though some of Clayton County’s citizens who are law abiding, good, and upstanding who need the bus system to get around the county and to work or school, unfortunately it is the main mode of transportation of the transcient, undesirable, unsavory, repugnant, and criminally inclined and the criminal element population of Clayton County, many of which who come from the now closed down ghetto housing projects of Atlanta, Georgia.

There have been numerous newspaper stories and articles written in The Atlanta Journal And Constitution, The Creative Loafing Weekly Newspapers, The Sunday Paper, etc. that also state that the main reason that the city of Atlanta, Georgia crime rate went down and that their school system is achieving is mainly because of the closure and tearing down of the over 20 ghetto housing projects and the building of nice, luxurious, spacious, and clean mixed use communities and upscale housing developments while the undesirables, unsavory, and criminal element population were given Section 8 housing vouchers and sent elsewhere to live, with many of them finding their way to Clayton County to live, especially in the areas of Riverdale, College Park, and various locations throughout Tara Boulevard.

It is not surprising that where these undesirable and unsavory people are located is the area where the Clayton County C-Tran Bus System serves and has bus stop locations.

I totally agree with your posting and only hope that Clayton County’s C-Tran Bus System will not “break” the county and that its costs can be contained and lessen so that the taxpaying citizens of Clayton County will not bear the burden of the massive cost of running this bus system that the majority of its citizens do not want.

The charade begins anew

April 14th, 2009
12:41 am

Megan gets the ball rolling, with a glowing report about how well the new board is doing. She’s already been a great help, pushing aside the story of the open gang violence at Jonesboro High, and the BOE’s non response to it, with her ad nauseum reporting about the the dance team.
I guess making sure a school system is free of open gang violence doesn’t meet the level of a mandate; I guess somehow you can be focused on the children, as this report claims the BOE is, yet still be silent when documented cases of open gang violence occur. Interesting.

I’m sure next will be a glowing report of how there are no more outside influences at work in CCPS, ignoring all the while the sweetheart deal between GAE and CCPS that allows Clayton GAE President Sid Chapman to earn years in the Teachers Retirement System without having to actually teach.

One might wonder how allowing a teacher to earn years in the Teachers Retirement System is a benefit to the children of Clayton when that teacher doesn’t actually teach any of Clayton’s children, but then that would require a newspaper to be more interested in real reporting, instead of pushing a political agenda.

R U Kidding?

April 14th, 2009
6:22 am

First, there are people who live and work in Clayton County who rely on public transportation. The buses are full in Riverdale in the morning and in the evening. These are working people who have no other choice but to rely on public transportation. As always when you have a working vehicle and are not dependent on public transportation, you don’t see the need for it. But if your ecomonic situation suddenly changed, which is possible in this economy, and you did not have reliable transportation, all of suddent CTRAN would become important to you. To save gas I use it to get to the mall and to go to work downtown, even though I don’t have to. I wish it was more like MARTA and ran all the time.

Political Spectator

April 14th, 2009
9:04 am

I want to preface my comments with the following thought: I am not sure absent of the loss of accreditation we would have been able to rid the county of such an ignorant board of education. A majority of the board was ill equipped, corrupt, unprofessional, and simply an embarrassment.

I think that Mark Elgart seized an opportunity to piggy back on the ignorance of such a board to push his political agenda. Dr. Elgart understands first hand that stupid boards of education are not exclusive to Clayton County. He needed the public shenanigans of Clayton’s board to push his GEORGIA SCHOOL BOARD REFORM BILL. The bill would give the governor an opportunity to intervene when school boards go WILD!

The sad thing is even with the public dismantling of Clayton’s previous board, the school board reform bill FAILED in this year’s General Assembly. Dr. Elgart’s plan backfired!!! He thought that stripping Clayton’s of its accreditation would scare school districts to take preventive measures and support the school board reform bill (just call Clayton County “TOBY”).

Dr. Elgart grossly miscalculated the rest of the state! 1) He did not count on the rest of the state thinking they were better than Clayton County and 2) He did not count on local governments fighting to keep control and 3) He did not count on the rest of the state being suspicious of an outsider such as SACS delving too deeply in school operations.

We are now left to clean up the collateral damage of this political war. The collateral damage includes 3500 students leaving the county, job loss for teachers and administrators, and other staff members, and federal funds being decreased.

There is enough BLAME to go around starting with but not limited to the idiot board, the electorate, the special interest groups, and our county commissioners being in bed with developers as they over developed this county with low end homes.

To all that question the quality of instruction in Clayton County, you can not convince me that APS, south Fulton, Dekalb, south Cobb, Gwinnett, Meriwether County, Griffin-Spalding, Troup county, south Georgia schools, mountain schools to name a few have highly superior instructional techniques than Clayton County. Give me a break!

WTF?

April 14th, 2009
9:29 am

I must agree with the above poster who said we wouldn’t have gotten rid of the last board without Elgart’s “assistance” (using that term VERY loosely). Those last four board members absolutely refused to leave office even though it was obvious to everyone and their mama that their presence wasn’t helping, but hurting. Then they hired Thompson to put a final nail in CCPS coffin. I blame those four in particular for the accreditation loss. Had they just “woman-ed up” resigned and put their pride aside for the betterment of CCPS, we may not have lost accreditation, Sonny would not have had to remove them and the rest of the state would have one less thing to laugh at us about. Yeah we’d still and still do have plenty of problems to discuss in CCPS but accreditation would not be one of them.

As far as C-Tran goes, get rid of it. Those bus stops look like small junk yards most of the time garbage all around, shopping carts lingering nearby, God only knows why. I agree with Kim those Tara blvd. buses are 99.99% empty 99.99% of the time. If Riverdale’s buses are so full, keep those & let them all move there at least the rest of the county’ll have a shot at being a decent place and the rest of us will know where NOT to go.

I would say the commissioners should do a forensic audit but why bother? They’ll never agree to that it’d expose all the corrupt stuff going on aand keep them from lining their own pockets, Eldrin in particular. Whoever said that he will NEVER fully work on behalf of Clayton because of his ties to Atlanta was spot on. I hope you all remember that come the next time we vote for commission chair cuz Eldrin’s loyalties lie firmly with the CITY OF ATLANTA.

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kallen

April 14th, 2009
10:37 am

I have been asked to share with you this quote from Terry Baskin in response to the above-referenced AJC article:

I submit this email response to the April 7 article in the Atlanta-Journal Constitution. I felt that I was definitely misquoted in this article as stating “The money is there. So I’d like to know where the money went,” It continued by stating “The taxes I collected would cover the (annual) $168 million budget.” This is a gross misrepresentation of both my office and me. It is impossible to collect 92 percent of the 2008 digest and equate that with the budget at $168 million dollars. I wouldn’t make a statement in that fashion. I would like this information to be read in public and clearly understood that I am not in no form or fashion acquitting anyone of negligence or of any malfeasance.

Sincerely,

Terry L. Baskin
Tax Commissioner
Clayton County, Georgia

Melanie Lee

April 14th, 2009
12:23 pm

FORENSIC AUDIT!

Sunshine

April 14th, 2009
1:01 pm

So Mr. Baskin,
What exactly are the facts? How much money has your office collected and when does your fiscal year end? I think that the commissioners should have a special meeting to explain this mess. It seems that
Eldrin doesn’t have a clue and the rest are silent.
Let’s see who will take a leadership role to address this issue.

I'm Tired of it!

April 14th, 2009
3:50 pm

You all don’t have a clue. All of this was done to protect the Finance Director’s butt! Even the so-called comments from Mr. Baskin. Wade and others have been protecting her for a very long time and I feel that its time they all came clean about it. Wade is married and so is she but you ought to know that something isn’t right with those two and she’s one of his puppets. A very close puppet I might add. Do the math people!

Clayton Resident

April 14th, 2009
7:39 pm

For the first time in who knows how long I looked to see how many people were riding the C-tran bus going down Tara around 6:30ish and the only person I saw on there was the bus driver!

Stevie Wonder

April 14th, 2009
9:54 pm

To: WTF,

You’re one of three people in Georgia and America to beleive that last four board member are the reason for accreditation boy! everybody and their mama in our community which is (90%) of Clayton County knows this issue is and has been all about whites and money! This new board errored the same or more than the old board. However, Elgart’s hands are tied, He MUST reinstate or ELSE. The only reason Clayton will get accreditation is because a certain percentage of CCPS money has been GIVEN to that Clayton’s Klandestine Society. While some kids in CCPS stil done have TEXT BOOKS! You and your people have the power of the MEDIA, but we still won’t vote for you!

ThirdEye Blindfond

April 14th, 2009
11:47 pm

If you don’t believe there was a radical Clandestine Society behind the ridding the Clayton’s Final Four former CCBOE members, “You won’t believe there’s radical Klandestine Society exploring and plotting an effort against President Obama! Many Recall Efforts were taken against Final Four former CCBOE members, All Failed! This act was correct and legal; however, a governor’s removal was/is unconstitutional! These actions by the Governor, “Disenfranchised”

Voters of those districts-no matter how short the time, voters were “disenfranchised,” which resulted in a majority/minority disenfranchised unaccredited community of people in Clayton. This was all organized and sponsored by the same people; you know who they are!

WTF?

April 15th, 2009
9:12 am

To Stevie Wonder

You really are blind! LOL! I’m a female not a male and I’m black not white. Sorry to disappoint. I stand by my original post and concede that a whole lot of this going back to the Final Four and the last board in general as well as accreditation loss and getting it back is all about whites and money. I haven’t seen any where near the same mistakes made by this board as the last but guess if we give them enough time that’ll happen.

Lovejoy resident

April 15th, 2009
9:43 am

I will say a prayer for CCPS and the kids. Prayer changes things.

Mark

April 15th, 2009
11:19 am

I hear a lot of Wade Starr. Is he is charge of the county and the mess that it is now in? Is he the person who is protecting the mess in the Finance Department?

bell

April 15th, 2009
11:49 am

wade is very competent. the most competent person in county government in clayton county. mark, don’t listen to all the rumors on wade or on anyone. people are jealous by nature. haters.

Just a Young Guy riding the Bus

April 15th, 2009
12:10 pm

Why get rid of C-tran it gets people around. and for the people that see the Tara Blvd bus empty on tara blvd thats because that is the end of the line and that means that the bus has dropped most people off. If you ever go to the airport you will see that, that bus is packed 15 out of its 19 trips a day, and did you guys read about the board meeting where the buses were packed all times of the day?

raja

April 15th, 2009
12:34 pm

Just a Young Guy riding the Bus

If the county is losing money on C-Tran, how can you justify keeping it. I think the citizen should have voted on C-tran coming to this county. I don’t use c-tran so I don’t want to pay for it.

Lovejoy resident

April 15th, 2009
4:28 pm

Well if what you say is right, then let the bus line stop wherever the most people get off because it’s obvious a bus is not needed going down Tara Blvd. Don’t think I”ve ever seen more than 5 people on it at at time including the driver. What’s said at the board meeting and what actually happens are different things and based on what I see that bus costs more to run than its makes.

Mr. Magoo

April 15th, 2009
4:33 pm

All the clayco racial BS aside, Why would anyone consider removing C Tran? Gridlock is at capacity, The clowns at the Gold Dome can’t /fix the traffic problem and as the economy continue to recover after 8 years of being ambushed, the road will only hold more traffic! Look long term and start planning now. Public transportation is responsible, good by the environment and eventually cost effective.

RubricInEcuador

April 15th, 2009
6:04 pm

Hey, Guys, I’m in Ecuador and trying to found out if Mark Elgart has descended yet from Mt. Alpharetta (ala Zeus) and granted the peasants of Clayton County the crumbs of accreditation (probationary status). Please keep me informed on this site.

TAX TIME

April 15th, 2009
6:47 pm

Let the Elgart “Charade” begins, accreditation will magically reappear! I wonder if Elgart can magically restore the lost property value, high foreclosure rate, 3500 families that left, 300-400 teachers who loss jobs and over 23 million dollars of lost revenue for the county? However, he’s not worried about he’s at the Capital Tax Tea Party with the rest of the rich folk making over $250,000 crying about taxes!

Claudio

April 15th, 2009
9:02 pm

I personally will not miss C-Tran. I am currently in Brazil for a while, but when I am in Clayton County, I have a car. Personally, my thoughts on Terry Baskins is that he is honest and a good man. I like him.

Space Case

April 15th, 2009
9:53 pm

Accreditation loss is only a tool used by the Rich Klandestine Society to “Disenfranchised” the poor uneducated darker working class folk

Mind Reader

April 15th, 2009
10:12 pm

Of Course, the schools will get accreditation back! Overwhelming evidence that the accreditation heist was a hoax! New CCBOE held illegal meetings, unethical behaviors, No-Bid Contracts, all members of CCBOE went San Diego costing an 18,500,all reported in the local paper. Run Thompson off with two months left costing over $100,000, run Julie Lewis off costing over $90,000. After all that, we will magically get accreditation back. The only losers were the 3500 children and parents who left the district and 300-400 teachers lost jobs and the 23 million it cost the district. We’ll only receive partial accreditation; full will be reinstated after we hire a white superintendent!

Osvaldo

April 17th, 2009
12:25 am

Most of the world does not even know that there exist a Clayton County or an arrogant Mark Elgart. But, below the Equator, we are pulling for our heroin, Sister Alieka! Give’em h_ll, Alieka, give’em h_ll! And the tan lines get better and better down here in Brasillllllllllllll.

Peggy Sue Davis

April 17th, 2009
1:52 pm

Show me the money!!!

I'll Pray, Kimberly

April 17th, 2009
8:35 pm

I read this blog regularly as I have a vested interest in the success of CCPS and ClayCo. This is my first time commenting. I assume that the vast majority of us live in Clayton County and hopefully we are some of the people who care enough to follow the news and stay involved. It seems, though, that many of you want to see CCPS get its accreditation back so you can feel smug about your conspiracy theories. I’m not even saying that you are necessarily wrong about some of what you say, but the anger that you say it with is too much. It is important to approach things with a HEALTHY suspicion, but if you want something to succeed (like CCPS and its BOE) YOU have to work at it, support it, and put effort into it. So, if you’re a parent – volunteer, etc., a student – study, behave, etc., a teacher – stay up-to-date, in touch with parents, etc., and so on.

Also, I do believe that it was absolutely unethical for Dr. Elgart to use his power and use Clayton County as a scapegoat to help pass his School Board Reform Bill, and I believe that the bill did not pass because the bill included not only the right of the State Board to oversee local boards, but also the violation of many personal rights. The bill was ridiculous and shouldn’t have passed and revoking our accreditation was a lame hail-Mary pass that didn’t have anything to do with race or money, but only politics and personal gain for Dr. Elgart and Sonny Perdue.

But that’s just my $.02.

CRISIS POINT

April 18th, 2009
1:00 pm

To CLayton’s Black Politicians
Addressing the root causes of racism in and of itself is controversial, and it cannot be done without offending someone’s sensibilities. Whether its ugly shadow of the past cast upon the beneficiaries of injustice or the need of history’s victims to accept the responsibility “to see the light and to walk therein”, both must show the courage to discuss painful realities head-on and without preconditions.

Internalized yet false beliefs of Black inferiority, which in turn fuel false assumption of White superiority, inflict a damaging self-perception of inherent failure and mediocrity upon its adherents. As the “arrogance of power” feeds upon the ignorance of self-nullification, the resulting product is a society where truth becomes falsehood, vision becomes blindness and strength becomes weakness.

At their worse the symbiosis between hubris and nihilism becomes the catalyst of Clayton County’s undoing and as such, the foundation of the community and its institutions are comprised.
As with President Barack Obama rising to become leader of the so-called “Free World” people of color defeat the stereotype of racial inferiority through the exercise of personal excellence. Through study, growth and application, the myth of white superiority is shattered as obstacles to overcome, low expectations become high and contributions are made toward the onward march toward equality.

For Black folk in particular, now is the time to start listening to those in our midst who have proven their record of success. Those who have established systematic methods toward the instilling of pride, the “knowledge of self” and self-worth, have truly shown the world another side of the Black man and woman.

It’s too late in the game to allow the mind of black inferiority to undermine our progress. For the sake of our children and our future generations, it is time to rise, shake off the dust and display the excellence that has been locked inside us for far too long.

Melanie Lee

April 19th, 2009
7:02 pm

LOL, more bull from CP….

Listen, no one cares! Stop the violence, clean your neighborhoods, stop the abuse of controlled substances, stop the thuggery, stop the illegitimacy and one can become a success! Certain people fail due to POOR PERSONAL CHOICES that have nothing (zilch, nada!) to due with so-called racism.

P.S. Leave Obama alone! Just follow his example (education, career, marriage, parenting)….LOL! Personal responsibility=achievement.

Rocsi

April 27th, 2009
6:03 pm

C-Tran is not needed in Clayton County. It has contributed to the decline of the county. The city of Atlanta should have built new apartments for their citizens instead of sending them to Clayton County to destroy the suburban towns. Ten years ago, the CCPS system was still a decent system. Now teachers serve as prison guards minus protection. The principals are afraid of the children and the parents. Teachers are not supported, yet administrators wear you down with threats of what will happen if your class does not do well on the test. Well, what accountability and standards are principals held to? Do they receive merit pay for the hard work that teachers do? Principals in Clayton are good for one thing- giving directives and doing absolutely nothing. Teachers can run the schools better than the so-called principals.

Derek

May 12th, 2009
9:55 pm

C-Tran is a money losing proposition, supported by the liberals to create money draining jobs and get votes fron non-performers in the community. Check the statistics, every time the Bus line moves further south crime explodes! First Riverdale, College Park, then Forest Park and Morrow! Now Ellenwood and Rex even into Henry (Stockbridge). Get rid of CTRAN and MARTA and release Clayton County from the diesease on non- accomplishers who prey on those who accomplish!

Mad at 'em!

May 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

Get rid of C-Tran. Maybe the former project dwellers (both home grown & northern transplants) will leave our community. I can’t stand their ghetto behinds and I’m Black.

Barbara Zinn

June 2nd, 2009
10:20 am

I have been a resident and tax payer in Clayton for over 30 years. I have watched C-Tran from the start and wondered how it kept going. Now I know, it has lost so much money at the expense of more important things to keep some politicians happy.

Please, everyone look at the needs for the Police Department, Sheriff’s Office and all the other departments such as the DA’s office and let us spent our money more wisely. The C-Tran buses I see are near empty or completely empty. Lets not waste more money.

concerned

June 15th, 2009
2:25 pm

Please get rid of C-tran! That’s the main reason why Clayton County was the dumping ground for Atlanta Public Housing!

Taxed to Death

June 17th, 2009
5:22 am

I can understand that SOME hardworking folks need to use C-Tran to get to their jobs, HOWEVER, if it is costing more money to operate than it generates in revenue then it needs to be shut down or the riders need to start paying much increased fares! Why should county employees face a 10% paycut in the form of furloughs to pay for others to ride public transportation?

Dash

June 23rd, 2009
6:57 pm

The clayton county bus system is used by working people who have no other choice or means to get to their jobs. I am a transplant from another state and it never ceases to amaze me the negative comments about people who use public transit. These idiots who are fortunate to have a car don’t seem to understand the world around them. I have a car but use the buses and trains occasionally because it is economical and simply easier than paying for parking downtown. I hope all of you who hate transit riders never find yourself in a bad situation in this difficult economy where you may need a bus but because of your ignorance shut down a system that is helping some. I refuse to blame people who use public transit for the crimes in clayton county. It is you people who speak so badly about the “element” coming into the county that are the real problem. Get off your butts and start holding the elected idiots in this county accountable for their actions. Come up with real solutions instead of tearing people down. I have never seen anyone rob wal-mart and walk out with TV’s and go stand at the bus stop. You sound so ridiculous!!!! Our leaders started a bus system without taking the time to see if it was feasible or profitable and now want to take it back from those who have come to rely on this service. Let’s face it people, this county has had problems long before atlanta closed housing projects and the c-tran started rolling. WAKE UP CLAYTON COUNTY!!!! WE are a laughing stock because we have all contributed to it.
I hope clayton schools get their accreditation back but we will be watched very closely. Yes, I blame the previous board members for some of this mess but the citizens of this county are to blame to. I am black and I am sick of black people blaming the whites for problems. When clayton county first lost it’s accreditation, we as parents should have been outraged and demanded the resignation of the board then. It should not have happened a second time!!! As black people we need to start getting angry and holding our leaders accountable. Whites would have had that board replaced the first time. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!! When it comes to your childrens education there should have been no excuses.
To all those who blame the poor or undesirables for clayton county’s problems you can move to the northside. Some of you can’t afford such a move. Let’s face it this county was never a prize to begin with. Let’s all work together to fix our county and make Clayton County a desirable place for all.

Rsooreovedak

August 26th, 2009
5:56 am

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