Should Southlake Mall enforce a curfew?

Starting May 1, Stonecrest Mall in DeKalb county will ban teenagers from their premises on weekend nights.  This means anyone under 18 will not be allowed in the mall after 4 p.m. on Fridays and Saturdays without the supervision of a parent or legal guardian.

Many Clayton residents believe Southlake should institute a similar rule.  My issues with Southlake have little to do with kids hanging out there, but rather its lack of shopping and merchandise choices.  Most kids just need something to do and there are definitely worse ways and places for kids to spend free time.  However, some residents remember when Southlake was a high end shopping mall and refuse to return.

“The safety and well-being of our shoppers are always our top concerns,” says Nicole Spreck, director of Public Relations at General Growth Properties, Inc., Southlake’s parent company.  “We have a customized public safety program at each of our 220+ shopping centers in 45 states.  At this time, a teen curfew is not warranted at Southlake Mall.”  These sentiments were reiterated by Southlake’s General Manager, Judy Pritchett.

Personally I’ve never been apprehensive about shopping at Southlake and some in neighboring counties aren’t either.  I always see Fulton, Henry, DeKalb and yes, even Fayette tags on occasion, in parking lots.  Further, I’ve witnessed teens roaming high end malls like Lenox Square at all hours and listened as some of its stores played the same music as Southlake does.  So while the clientele and shopping selections may vary, no mall is immune to crime or roving teenagers.

Do you shop at Southlake mall?  Would a similar rule encourage you to patronize Southlake Mall more often, or will you steer clear regardless?

38 comments Add your comment

Long time county resident

April 6th, 2009
4:39 pm

I have lived in Clayton County my entire life. I shop at Southlake Mall only on the rare occasion now. It has nothing to do with teenagers rather the stores at the mall. Most of the stores in the mall do not meet my needs. I can go to the shops on Mt. Zion or the Fayette Pavillon and find what I need. When Southlake changes its shopping selection, then I may return.

oldtimer

April 6th, 2009
4:47 pm

I have shopped at Southlake and if there is something I need I might in the future. But, the big problem at Southlake is the lack of choice. There are areas to shop that more meet my needs.

TC

April 6th, 2009
4:47 pm

Haven’t been there in years. Don’t feel safe in the parking lots, and and most of the decent stores have left. It will make a nice flea market soon, if they don’t do something to bring it back to life.

John Stewart

April 6th, 2009
4:47 pm

Kimberly no I do not shop at the stores inside Southlake Mall. I will shop in Macy’s (even the men’s dept is catering 70% to the younger crowd), Sears (Tools/Appliances) and JC Penny (not sure if they are still there) unfortunately Southlake will not enforce a curfew because 90% of the stores cater to the 13-21 crowd. Why would they implement something that would have a negative impact on their store owners?

I am of the mindset to say yes to the curfew and then maybe and more likely you can bring back higher end stores and those that will spend the money in them. Unfortunately I don’t think Southlake is forward enough in its thinking to do so. They don’t know how to capitalize on their location. They need to ask themselves why are people willing to go Locust Grove to Tangier Outlet Malls to shop or why are they willing to drive all the way to Lenox to Shop?

Nicole why don’t you invite some community leaders as well as commissioners in to have a round table/face to face to hear what the community would like and then make changes accordingly.

Just Stating The Obvious And Verifiable Truth

April 6th, 2009
6:27 pm

Southlake Mall should most definitely, without a doubt, and immediately institute a curfew like Stonecrest Mall does in Dekalb County that noone under the age of 18 will not be allowed in the mall after 4:00 P.M. on Fridays and Saturdays without the supervision of a parent or legal guardian.

The sad truth about this is that this will never happen at Southlake Mall because the mall is no longer the nice, upscale, clean, elegant, sophpisticated, high class mall that it used to be years ago that catered to the middle-to-high middle clientele residents and citizens of Clayton County and its surrounding counties like Fayette County, Henry County, and Spalding County.

Southlake Mall is RIGHT NOW AT THIS PRESENT TIME a second-to-low class that only caters to the teen-agers, young adults, youths, and people that are low class, do not respect the property of the mall, throw their trash and litter anywhere and everywhere, and are essentially the hang out of the subhuman Section 8, lowlife, gang bangers, thugs, punks, delinquents, vandals, hoodlums, and criminally minded and committing youths, young adults, teen-agers and their sorry, no good parents who cannot and will not control, supervise, or exert their parental authority over them.

It is extremely obvious as to why the General Manager of Southlake Mall Ms. Judy Pritchett does not and will not institute a curfew because the youths, young adults, teen-agers, and sorry low-class adults that this curfew would keep out are the very ones who patronize and buy from this mall because Southlake Mall only has low end businesses with its “bling bling” jewerly stores, ghetto clothing apparel stores that only sell “oversized, baggy, drooping, sagging, falling down pants with large, oversized, tee shirts, hooded jackets, and skull caps that only gangsters real and wantabees, thugs, hoodlums, punks, hoodlums, and barbaric acting and behaving youths, young adults, and teen-agers wear.

Also, Southlake Mall will not in no time soon attract the high-end stores and have the many shopping and merchandise choices that it used to have because as the demographics of Clayton County changed and the income demographics of Clayton County changed (for the worst) and the class and type of people in Clayton County changed, these stores left in high numbers and you only have stores that cater and sell to the current population of Clayton County today.

This is why all of Clayton County is not only full of, but it is overrun with CAR WASH PLACES, CELL PHONE STORES, CHECK CASHING PLACES, AUTOMOBILE LEASING PLACES, DIRTY LOW-CLASS AUTOMOBILE REPAIR PLACES, LOW-END RETAIL STRIP MALLS, BLING-BLING JEWELRY STORES, AUTOMOBILE RIM STORES, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR PARTS STORES, PAWN SHOPS, LIQUOR AND PACKAGE STORES, NUMEROUS FAST-FOOD PLACES BOTH NAME BRAND AND FAMILY OWNED, LAUNDROMAT PLACES, ETC.

I have gone to Southlake Mall mainly for replacement batteries for my watch and to their Sears Store.

The trouble at Southlake Mall occurs during its evening and nighttime hours and especially on Friday and Saturday nights when the teen-agers, youths, young adults, and low-class adults that I have described in great detail travel in packs in great numbers cruising and traveling around the mall going from store to store with no security guard or guards in sight.

Lastly, if Southlake Mall’s General Manager Ms. Judy Pritchett desires, wants, and will continue to cater to the type of people mention in this posting, she should seriously consider doubling or even tripling the amount of security guards and patrols around and in her mall so the people who do not feel safe in her mall whether it is day, evening, or night will feel safe enough to patronize and buy from the very few good stores left at Southlake Mall.

Dedicated Young Customer

April 6th, 2009
6:47 pm

I love Southlake Mall; they really have all the nice new clothing. There are plenty stores with all the latest “Urban Gear”, you know the ones; jeans with the design on the back pockets with the matching design on T-Shirts with matching design on baseball cap. Brands like Ed Hardy and Black Label and White Tag. The vendors that sell these type clothing and the latest “Rap CDs” are making Big Money at Southlake. There are plenty places like Sears, Macys, JC Penny’s that “Old Folk” and “Senior Citizens” can buy stuff. If you run us off you want have any clientele, us young folk have been keeping this mall “OPEN” for at least the last eight years. Thank you, General Manager, Judy Pritchett, you’re a Life Saver.

Chilli

April 6th, 2009
6:54 pm

Should South Lake Mall have a Curfew? The young people make the mall and if you all are trying to keep young people/teenagers away from the mall it will become a flea market by 2010. We are the ones that bring in the revenue. We are the ones that keep the doors of the mall open. So I suggest that you all think smart and don’t let this be another County disaster. Put the Children First in Something in Clayton County since the School System has put them last.

Student Alliance

April 6th, 2009
7:09 pm

I don’t know why anybody is afraid at Southlake Mall; they have plenty Security Guards and Morrow PD there. It’s a nice “Wholesome Urban Environment”. Please don’t paint all us young folk with a “Broad Brush”, most of us are shopping and mind our own business. However, you may have some “True Thugs” walking around every once in a while; the rest are Thug Lookalikes and harmless!!!

Black Woman In Clayco

April 6th, 2009
8:34 pm

I still go to Southlake occassionally, sometimes even find something I like! I can count on one hand how many stores cater to my age group (let’s just say 35-45). The teens never bothered me, when I was in that age bracket sometimes my friends & I “roamed” the mall. You right there are much worst things they could be out here .

But some posters are right about it becoming a flea market. I was there at Christmas holiday it was practically empty. Wasn’t sure if that was the economy or lack of store choices or both! But for sure they need more store choices in there if they want to cater to anyone else but the young hip hop crowd.

Just Stating the Obvious do you even live in Clayton ? You sound so bitter.

Just Stating The Obvious And Verifiable Truth

April 6th, 2009
10:57 pm

TO BLACK WOMAN IN CLAYCO

Just stick to your comments, viewpoints, and opinions on the blog topic of the week and not add extra commentary that do not relate to the blog topic of the week like you did in the last sentence of your blog posting at 8:34 P.M. this evening.

Your last sentence in your posting was not necessary.

It is none of your business where I live or my postings on my comments, opinions, viewpoints, and observations about Southlake Mall, its retail stores and the class of people, youths, young adults, and teen-agers who patronize the mall.

For the record, I presently live in Clayton County and have lived in Clayton County for well over fourteen years.

If you do not like my postings, just bypass them and do not read them, let alone comment on them.

How I post and the comments, opinions, viewpoints, and observations that I write on about Southlake Mall is my business just as your comments, opinions, experiences, and viewpoints that you write about Southlake Mall is your business.

I strongly suggest that you just continue to and stick to posting and writing on your personal experiences, observations, opinions, and viewpoints about Southlake Mall and your visits and shopping there and stop commenting on others’ postings about Southlake Mall.

Some of the postings on this blog will be about their positive experiences at Southlake Mall and some of the postings on this blog will be about how negative they feel that the mall has become and their negative experiences at the mall.

Just stay out of other people’s postings and I am sure that they will stay out of your postings.

Gomer Pyle vs. Sgt. Carter

April 6th, 2009
11:24 pm

It was empty this past holiday season. But so was Lenox, Stonecrest and every other mall in America. The sales data confirm this fact. As far as the curfew, NO! let teens be teens. We hung out at the mall when we were young. When was the last time someone was shot at SL mall? Beat up, robbed etc? I haven’t heard of any public safety threats coming from the mall. As far as the nothion that everyone is a Sec.8 “lowlif” scum…That poster just needs prayer. The reason Clayton County is in the condition it is because the leaders failed in a major way and the voters refuse to hold them accountable on election day. The county is 9.5 Million in the hole. Of course this is the tip of the iceberg. IT WILL GET WORSE! Commissioners who we elected hang up on reporters as if they don’t owe those who elected them an explanation. What gives? The Tax Commisiioner says yes, The BOC says No WTF?

HSTeacher

April 6th, 2009
11:45 pm

I have not been to Southlake in years. When I shop, it is Kohl’s, Belk, or Lenox Mall. I can remember when Southlake opened. Back then it was Davidson and they had terrible customer service. When Rich’s was bought, I stopped shopping there even though I have my original card number.

I’ve been to the new shopping area in Macon and recently, went to PTC which is a nice shopping town. I don’t need a Mall.

Just Stating The Obvious And Verifiable Truth

April 7th, 2009
12:08 am

TO BLACK WOMAN IN CLAYCO

Also, my posting is not a “bitter” posting but a very factual, provable, seeable, and verifiable one if you or any blogger who reads my posting chooses to go to Southlake Mall starting this Wednesday April 8, 2009 and up to the end of the week when because of the warm spring-like weather which will start on Wednesday April 8, 2009 and continuing up to the end of this week and because of spring break of all of Clayton County students, you will all that I listed on my first posting especially during the evening and night hours at Southlake Mall on Friday and Saturday before your very disbelieving eyes and much more.

Just look, see, and observe as you do your shopping or browsing at Southlake Mall at the youths, young adults, and teen-agers, what they are wearing, how they are traveling with their friends, and if they are well behaved or rowdy, disruptive, disrespectful, or inconsiderate in their use of foul language, menacing, and threatening gestures, and if they have any adult supervision around them.

Also, note if you see any security guards in the mall, or better yet, if you see the security guards that are witnessing the behaviors and actions of the rowdy and disrespectful youths, young adults, and teen-agers, see, watch, and look if they will be proactive and assertive and stop this negative behavior and action or if they will only be reactive and only stop it if a concerned patron or shopper at the mall go to them and request that they stop it.

I will state and stand by my comments and on my own observations having purchased items at Southlake Mall and have seen and witnessed first hand a very passive, non assertive, and essentially do nothing security guard force that allow such disruptive, disrespectful, and inappropriate actions, behaviors, and conduct to continue by the youths, young adults, and teen-agers especially the gang members who frequent Southlake Mall especially on the weekends (Fridays and Saturdays) and only reactively stop this behavior when a patron or shopper complains when the security guard force should stop this immediately and proactively.

Lastly, if you do not believe that their is a crime problem at Southlake Mall, all you have to do is go to the Morrow Police Department Headquarters because Southlake Mall is in the city of Morrow in Clayton County and request to see crime statistics at Southlake Mall and its surrounding areas and compare them to years before and you will see the increase in crime areas such as car break-ins, robbery, burglary, etc. for yourself.

Again, if you choose to look at Southlake Mall as a mall that caters to your shopping needs and is an okay or even a good mall in your eyes, that is your opinion, experience, viewpoint, and opinion and you are entitled to it.

If I choose to see Southlake Mall in a very different light and see it AS IT REALLY IS RIGHT NOW AT THIS PRESENT TIME AND WHAT IT HAS NOW BECOME and write about it in this posting, this is my right, but more than that, all that I have written and as I have stated in this posting can be easily verified, proven, and confirmed if you will take the time to look, see, and observed directly for yourself and check out the crime statistics at and around Southlake Mall for yourself and compare them to years past to see if it is indeed a very safe, secure, and protected mall where all kinds of people can go to shop, browse, and look safely in peace, not being concerned with rowdy, disrespectful, and unruly youths, young adults, and teen-agers who not only do not respect adult and parental authority, but do not respect nor care about the security guards present there to protect the shoppers in the mall.

Black Woman in Clayco

April 7th, 2009
8:36 am

As the old saying goes … me thinks thou protests waaaayyyyy too much.

Crime has gone up EVERYWHERE, not just in Clayton county. NOTHING is the same as it was 10 or even 5 years ago ANYWHERE. If anybody thinks Clayton will again be that sleepy neighborhood it used to be you’re fooling yourself. These just are not the times we live in, but we can hope and pray for the community to come together to curb the problems because the chances of us getting rid of them completely are slim. By the way all teens that roam in groups in the mall or otherwise are not thugs or a threat to society, it’s called being a teenager and I never knew a perfect one.

This place is really scary sometimes and the ones committing crimes aren’t the only ones scaring me.

The Observer

April 7th, 2009
9:49 am

Unfortunately, Southlake Mall has already seen its best days as an upscale top notch mall with upscale dining resturants such as Ruby Tuesdays which was once located at one of the mall’s entrance.

Southlake Mall is now basically an ethnic mall that caters to the majority ethnic population in Clayton County and the income base of its majority population.

Southlake Mall general manager Ms. Judy Pritchett and the Director of Public Relations of Southlake Mall’s parent company General Growth Properties Inc. Ms. Nicole Spreck comments only confirm the direction that Southlake Mall has taken in that it is a mall that only wants the young hip-hop rap listening crowd patronizing and shopping in their mall.

Southlake Mall only mirrors what has already taken place in Clayton County in terms of the businesses that have come into the county.

Until the county’s demographics change, the income level of the population of the citizens of Clayton County increases, and the socioeconomic status of the majority population of Clayton County changes, and Clayton County gets more high income earners to move into the county, we can expect more of what we are already getting in Clayton County as it relates to this county being overrun with certain types of businesses that are not appealing, attractive, and are not high end or upscale in quality.

Michael

April 7th, 2009
11:02 am

I have only been in Southlake Mall once or twice in the past year or so. I used to take my Grandksid there to see Santa Clause and do some Christmas shopping, but, no more. Prices are outlandish, the crowds are uncontrolled, and the overall experience was a real downer.

While the roving groups of teenagers are worrysome, most are just trying to have some fun with their friends. The few who can be truly described as thugs, or gangbangers need to be dealt with before it becomes necessary to ban all teens from being there.

A little more proactive security, and doing away with the bus stop at the mall would go a long way to improve the atmosphere and experience of being at Southlake. It would also allow higher end stores to feel more comfortable bringing their inventory to the area. This would also limit the crowds somewhat to those customers who can actually afford to be shopping there. After all, if the customers have to take a bus instead of their own vehicle, they can’t afford to be shopping at any Mall.

oldtimer

April 7th, 2009
1:56 pm

You do not hear of problems at the mall and never have–ever due to the city of Morrow’s attitude of reporting information to the press. Ask for police records…you can even go back 15-20 years. It has never been a pretty picture. Most malls are not!

Marinemom

April 7th, 2009
2:00 pm

Southlake Mall has turned into Greenbriar or South DeKalb Mall. They have security, but you would never know it. Security is definitely out numbered by the teens there. I don’t mind teenagers being at the mall. There aren’t that many places for them to hang around. What I do mind is the gang like atmosphere that the mall has taken on over the past few years. The stores do not cater to the crowds they once did and that is what keeps most people away. I won’t shop there any longer. Too many other choices out there for people and if Southlake doesn’t take control over what is happening, they will end up having to close their doors.

I don’t quite understand what the blogger means by customers who have to take a bus to the mall, they can’t afford to shop there. There are all sorts of reasons why someone cannot drive and need to take a bus. You are lumping a whole group of people into the same category as malls are doing with the teenagers. I can drive myself to a mall or a store and not necessarily have the money to purchase anything, I enjoy window shopping, getting out of the house, etc.

Time Don't Stop

April 7th, 2009
7:51 pm

To: Just Stating The Obvious And Verifiable Truth,

I am shocked that you even leave your home at all. You are that same old “The Facts are the Facts Guy”. You are “Scare” of every thing in Clayton County. You sound like the old poet when he said “Having lived a long time, I have seen plenty troubles, most of them never happened” Every thing to you is low-end, low-class and Sec-8 and downtrodden.

You are “Broad Brush Painting” and that’s another so-called politically correct to say low to no tolerance of others. REMEMBER: Pluralism= the existence of groups with different ethnic, religious, or political backgrounds within one society. Go ahead and say it-if the demographics were more like 50/50 you’d feel some comfortable, no matter the age difference.

Come on, Just Stating the Obvious and Verifiable Truth, please leave Clayton County before you have a “Heart Attack or Stroke, sound like you are REALLY stressing the small stuff. Please leave the county before your folks are sitting around eating fried chicken and potatoes salad talking about how great you were!

Provocateur

April 7th, 2009
8:05 pm

This is 2009, “Get Over It”! As long as ATL is the Hip Hop Capital of the World the demographic of Clayton will never change. If you don’t like Southlake Mall try the other Malls say at Greenbriar Mall or South Dekalb Mall. Yea, Eastlake Mall demographic is 50/50.

Just Stating The Obvious And Verifiable Truth

April 7th, 2009
11:12 pm

TO TIME DON’T STOP

Your posting and comments only reflect your idiotic, stupid, ignorant, and juvenile way of thinking that has no basis in truth or fact.

Be original and post your own opinions, viewpoints, observations, and experiences on the blog topic of the week and stop commenting on the postings of others.

I suggest that you use the limited and small amount of intelligence and brain power that you have and write a intelligent posting on the blog topic presented this week and stop commenting on things that you obviously have no control over which are the postings of others on this blog site.

WTF?

April 8th, 2009
9:07 am

What does riding a bus to the mall have to do with anything? Upscale Lenox Square mall has a bus AND train stopping there and ya’ll go there every chance you get apparently.

Peggy Sue Davis

April 8th, 2009
11:22 am

Until the demographics change, this county will continue to have BOE, BOC, and CED problems……Typical!

Richard

April 8th, 2009
4:57 pm

CODE ENFORCEMENT

STOP RUNNING THE GOOD BUSINESS OUT OF THE COUNTY!!!!!

Young Buck

April 8th, 2009
6:58 pm

Now the greedy are talking about banning the Mall from the youth. They greedy have already took accreditation, now this. That only leave us one last option and that to walk around all the subdivisions in the county all day and all night. Now that sounds like trouble! I guess the old greedy won’t be happy until we all disappear off the face of the earth!

New Reader

April 8th, 2009
7:12 pm

There seems to be an element of Clayton County’s Older Society that wants the majority of the youth population of this county to leave this county. Now, who would that be?

Clayton Resident

April 8th, 2009
8:02 pm

I’ll go to southlake for Macys, JCP, Bath & Body Works and Auntie Anne’s pretzels. Oh my kid likes Lids for hats. Even those stores sometimes carry the same hip hop like clothing as the rest of the stores in there. If one or too manhy of the stores I listed go they’ll lose this customer. I ignore the kids and do what I need to do and leave.

Dat right

April 12th, 2009
8:49 am

Having curfew would be stoopid!!! Deez little thugs would just leave the mall to exhibit a wide array of fool behavior throughout the nearby neighborhoods!!! If we keep deez fools in da mall we can hopefully contain deez fools.

No curfool!!!!

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Getting the heck out of clayton

April 16th, 2009
12:03 am

I truly enjoyed reading the comments posted. Some are fill with fear, prejudice and ignorance. But it is their truth (the person who is commenting). I do not shop or go to South Lake Mall. Unfortunately, it does not cater to me, therefore, why patronize a place that does not offer the stores that I enjoy shopping in. But as for a curfew, why stop at the mall? Why not put a curfew county-wide?

Politically incorrect!

April 17th, 2009
7:54 pm

Gwinnett County made national news about its Mexican drug trade and crime. It is surprising I do NOT read the fear of going into Gwinnett county Do you still think Clayton is the worst county in the metro area? Give me a break!

Ain't that sumthin!

April 18th, 2009
12:42 pm

Since they’re going bankrupt they can’t AFFORD to do anything about the problems at Southlake mall! No wonder the general manager don’t care!

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2009/04/16/gengrowth_0417.html%3Fimw%3DY

TUESDAY VANDY GIRL

April 19th, 2009
3:56 am

I appreciate clayton absorbing all the section-8 ex-ghetto dwellers during the early 2000’s..it kept them out of other suburban areas..sucks for you guys, but thanks none the less

Gerald

May 2nd, 2009
11:42 pm

Most of you are skirting the issue. And the issue is the fact that Clayton County changed from an all-white, middle to upper middle class suburban area, starting around 1990, to the all-negro, lower to very lower middle class suburban area that it is now. Look at the schools. They plummeted after people like Dan Colwell, David Gregory, et al left (or were elbowed out by that bossy lady on the school board who thought she was “all that and a bag of chips”) and now look at all the lovely stories in media over the past several years about the problems the schools and school board are having. Oh yeah, bring in some clown like Thompson to run the schools, and the first thing he does is order the senior’s diplomas to be redone because his (holy?) name wasn’t on them. Clayton County is an embarrassment to anyone who lives in the metro area. As for the mall, maybe it’s safe, maybe it isn’t. I won’t go there, I know that. In fact, the only time I enter that dreadful county is when I go to the airport, and thank God there’s adequate security THERE.

Antikythera

May 3rd, 2009
12:53 pm

This article and the comments are just hilarious!

There only seems to be one or two posters who don’t have cranial/rectal inversion syndrome, and they’re being witch-hunted… called ‘racist’ or ‘prejudiced’ or whatever. The only reason they’re being called that is because the accuser has no defensible argument to put forth, so they resort to namecalling.

I’ll say what everyone is afraid to: The mall is and has been over-run by blacks; specifically the gang banger/thug type. Using euphamisms like ‘hip-hop’ or ‘lower class’ only confuses and clouds the truth.

And that truth is: Wherever blacks go in number, they destroy.

The mall used to be upscale and nice. This is code for: “Whites shopped there”. Some asshat started catering to the blacks, ie: selling thug clothing or (c)rap music CD’s, and the whites took off once the number of blacks reached a critical point.

Whites don’t mind a few blacks here or there, but once they arrive in great numbers, the whites go elsewhere. We just don’t want to put up with your idiocy, poor behavior, vile language and criminal acts. What civilised person WOULD want to put up with such nonsense?

Thank God above I don’t live there or go to that poor, destined-to-be-a-fleamarket mall…

Have fun yelling “Dat be’s rassims!” or whatever about what I have written here.

But you all know it for what it is: The stone cold truth.

JT

July 23rd, 2009
9:08 am

Holy sh*t I have never seen so much hating on Southlake. I have been to nice and not so nice malls, because I document these places. Honestly I think Cumberland is more ghetto than Southlake, and there IS reason to be afraid there. I am white and went down to Southlake with a friend, and he liked the mall enough he wanted to go back. The mall is majority black, but not once did I feel threatened in that place. If you want real ghetto, head to West End. I did a profile on Southlake for my blog, and I think the pictures pretty much speak for themselves. There is nothing dead about that mall unless the stores move out b/c there just because there are black people there. I did happen to see stores like American Eagle in there…shows that not everybody that shops there is a “thug”, and not everybody who buys “urban” clothing is a thug either. You can’t judge a book by it’s cover. I almost became a crime victim to white kids at a gas station in Cobb County in the 90’s. It was a very frightening experience.

The supposed ghetto malls across Atlanta I have visited may not be upscale, but are doing quite well actually. And quite frankly, I have more reason to be afraid in places like Perimeter when I see people who really do look ghetto that hopped Marta trains from the West End and Bankhead up to there. Southlake doesn’t have Marta, so that would make LESS of a ghetto element if you ask me. And do keep in mind even around Greenbriar Mall, the supposed notorious ghetto mall of all the South, the average income in the area is around $50,000/yr.

As to Stonecrest, I was VERY turned off by the level of rules and security they had. Literally every corner had a mall cop standing there like a surly statue. It was not a welcoming environment, and I felt much more relaxed at Southlake. And having that much security is going to give people a perception of crime. I have seen nothing that compared to it. It was telling that I saw more vacancies at Stonecrest than Southlake.

Of course, if the economy continues to get worse expect ALL the malls around Atlanta to start ailing/dying. We already have 10% unemployment.

Griffinite who works in Clayton County

October 18th, 2009
11:21 pm

Gosh, growing up in Griffin, we would go to Southlake and it was wonderful. By 1995, I could see the changes that were starting to hit the area, but I still shopped at Southlake.

I now teach in Jonesboro and commute from Griffin. It is like being in two worlds: Redneckville one minute and Ghettoville the next. I find both have its issues and its differences. I shop Southlake often, with my son wearing his Dixie Outfitter shits and overalls, and I don’t have any issues at all. Its all in the attitude. Of course, the styles have changed and I don’t see many Northern Europeans hanging around, but I get what I need, enjoy my day, and move on.

There’s room for everybody at Southlake… If not, Macon is right down the road. I don’t have any problems.

ffxiv gil

June 15th, 2010
8:41 am

Such a usefule blog wow !!!!