Will new business come to Clayton?

Who says new businesses won’t come to Clayton County?

During a time when jobs are being lost, it is great to know that businesses are opening, creating jobs and stimulating the economy right in our backyard.

According to an AJC article, QT Kitchens brought 227 jobs to Clayton and, hopefully, our residents got first dibs on those positions. The Ellenwood and Lovejoy areas have slowly been blossoming for awhile now with businesses that appear here to stay.

Another newbie is “Da Dancing Pig” (1489 Mundys Mill Road, Jonesboro, 770.210.8844, 12-8pm Tues-Sat.), where hickory smoked pork slab ribs are the specialty. Owner Jasper Roundtree actually lives in DeKalb, but found Clayton “more suitable than DeKalb county” for his business.

“This is a very diverse neighborhood and community here,” says Roundtree. “You just have to put roots down and go for it wherever the opportunity looks best.” Says Clayton resident and repeat customer Julie Brown, “The food is really good, it’s close to home, and they are very friendly here. My favorite is the BBQ ribs.”

Although not a new business per se, AMC’s Southlake Pavilion recently opened an IMAX theater which will surely produce new jobs and customers. Clayton was chosen as an IMAX site because “… it is one of many of AMC’s top-performing locations in the U.S.,” says spokeswoman Sun Dee Larson. Upcoming IMAX flicks include: “Monsters vs. Aliens” (March 27), “Star Trek” (May 8), “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen” (June 16) and “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” coming this summer.

If you have been to the “Da Dancing Pig” or AMC’s IMAX theater, what did you think? Are there any new or existing businesses in Clayton that you would recommend residents patronize?

64 comments Add your comment

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
10:12 am

The key to all of this is if the “right” kinds of business will come to Clayton County in that if the upscale high-end businesses, stores, and places to shop and purchase high quality, upscale merchandise will come to Clayton County.

I do not think these businesses will come to Clayton County because of the filth, nastiness, trashy looking, low class, low end, ghetto, gangster, and criminal looking look that this county has and the ghetto looking, thuggish looking and dressing people that now live in Clayton County that you see each and every day on Tara Boulevard, Mount Zion Road, at Southlake Mall, Upper Riverdale Road, Flint River Road, Old Dixie Highway, Garden Walk Boulevard, State Roads 139 and 138, and all of the trailor home and mobile home parks that are all throughout Tara Boulevard located behind the low end, low class, dirty, nasty, filthy businesses that you see when you Exit off of I-75 South to Tara Boulevard at Exit 235 and immediately see these ghetto businesses.

Dan Waldron

March 23rd, 2009
10:16 am

I’ve been reading along for a while now. I just wanted to drop you a comment to say keep up the good work.

ESR

March 23rd, 2009
12:03 pm

Tf you’re going to wait until high-end stores and business come to Clayton County, I hope you have a comfortable chair to sit in for your very, very long wait. In this economy who in their right mind would invest in an area that’s wrought with crime and bad press? Just riding through the area makes you want to lock your doors and have a gun on the seat beside you. Reality check folks, reality check.

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
12:06 pm

Clayton County is attracting the low end to “not so low end” businesses such as the ones that the blog master Ms. Kimberly Allen mentioned in her blog topic of the week.

Unfortunately, these businesses in my opinion are not the high end luxurious, attractive, appealing, and well stocked businesses that you see in the major malls of the Metropolitian Atlanta, Georgia area such as the Lenox Square Mall, Phipps Plaza Mall, the Fayette Pavillion Mall, Stonecrest Mall in Dekalb County, the North Pointe Mall in Alpharetta, etc.

Clayton County’s only mall which is the Southlake Mall is now a low-end mall with second and third rate businesses and continues to go down each and every day.

Until Clayton County is cleaned up of all of its trash, clutter, nastiness, filthiness, and the Section 8 low class ghetto people who have dirtied up this county and have essentially destroyed this county from the inside out and have caused the high crime rate and the negative way this county is looked upon by its neighboring counties, Clayton County will never attract high end, upscale, luxurious businesses and will only get second rate and low end businesses like check cashing places, automotive stores, automobile “rim” stores, beauty shops, car wash places, “rib” joints, payday lending places, “jackleg” automotive repair places, etc.

View From Vidalia

March 23rd, 2009
12:07 pm

I hope that new businesses will not give up on Clayton County. Clayco will rise again!

John Stewart

March 23rd, 2009
12:08 pm

Commentor I have respected your opinion for quite some time and have to respectfully disagree with you. Unlike yourself which is viewing things through pessimistic lenses I view things through optimistic lenses.

I think businesses will come to Clayton and I agree they have to be the right type of business. Think about this for a moment. If you live near the Panhandle area of Clayton how many times have you traveled over to the Fayetteville Pavillion to shop and think of whats there and why can’t Clayton have that. The answer to that question will take you back to the old board and all the personal land grabs that they did. On the flip side I do think that you can bring great businesses in the County but it would have to be strategically placed to get the most bang for the buck for the county and the businesses opening up here.

Black Woman In Clayco

March 23rd, 2009
12:57 pm

Well the only low end business listed in this article is The Dancing Pig, but I’d still say that’s better than no business opening here at all.

Clayton is at a disadvantage right now & has to start somewhere. We can’t expect Dillars & Saks to open here anytime soon but Clayton could be a breeding ground for small businesses to help our economy. When I moved to the Lovejoy area years ago it was all woods now look at it. They may not be high end retail, but I shop there all the time.

Will anybody travel to Clayton for “Da Dancing Pig?” Probably not. But at least I don’t have to travel to Fulton, Fayette or Henry for BBQ like I do for so many other things (no I haven’t tried it yet, I’m just saying).

Let’s try to look at the positive here! That guy lives in Dekalb, he could have opened his business there but he brought it here. Imax could have gone ANYWHERE but Clayton county just based on the last year alone. If Imax brings people to Clayton it could get movie goers to eat in the restaurants in that area, shop at the big box stores over there & maybe, just maybe, even bring some other big box names into the area.

Southlake except for Macys, Bath & Body Works, JCP & Auntie Annie’s pretzels is a bust for me. But the last thing Clayton needs is another empty monstrostiy/structure sitting empty in Clayton. Think about that.

Black Woman In Clayco

March 23rd, 2009
1:02 pm

Oh let me not forget Lane Bryant! Don’t want them to “disappear” :-)

Cleophus

March 23rd, 2009
1:04 pm

Businesses will not come to Clayton if they listen to the Commentor. Tara Blvd is a main entrance into the county but we have great areas for businesses and residents in the county other than Tara.

raja

March 23rd, 2009
1:38 pm

The Commentor

It’s nice for you to point out everything wrong with CC. I like to know what can you do to help? You keep posting the same stuff. Why don’t you run for commissioner?

Any time you live near a shopping area in another county you will shop there. In lovejoy you see lots of Henry Co. car tags. Like Fayette see plenty of Clayton tags (Riverdale and Panhandle) at the Pavillion. In the last year I’ve heard so many negative comments from our neighbors, so I shop less in Mcdonough and Fayetteville.

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
1:43 pm

TO JOHN STEWART

I am writing to state that even though I respect your views, opinions, and viewpoints on the comments you posted at 12:08 P.M., I must respectfully disagree with your comments.

I am a realist about the problems on Clayton County and the way Clayton County is right now.

I do not share your optimistic views about Clayton County and feel very strongly that this county cannot turn around for the better until you clean up this county from the inside out and get all of the Section 8 people out of this county that have come here from the ghetto housing projects from the city of Atlanta, Georgia.

Again, I see Clayton County from a REALIST LENS and what I see is a dirty, nasty, filthy county with low class ghetto looking, criminal looking, gangster and ghetto acting people that walk all up and down Tara Boulevard, Upper Riverdale Road, Mount Zion Boulevard living in the numerous nasty apartment homes, trailor and mobile home parks, and extended stay hotels and motels that line and are all up and down Tara Boulevard.

No respectable high end upscale business would ever locate here in Clayton County because if the elected officials did the impossible and cleaned up Clayton County, you still have a county that is a majority renters population who cannot afford their products.

The sad, direct, blunt, and in-your-face truth is that the only businesses that Clayton County is attracting in great numbers are the check cashing places, rent-to-own businesses, beauty shops, automotive stores, cell phone stores, “bling-bling” stores, payday lending places, etc. that always follow and set up their stores where low income people go like they have come to in Clayton County.

Cleophus

March 23rd, 2009
2:42 pm

Let us pray for the commentor he seems tormented. But we can not wait for Tara Blvd to be cleaned up before we reach out to upscale businesses. We have other areas is Clayton. There is a market here for more specialty shops. Everybody does not go to Walmart.

Oh please

March 23rd, 2009
2:49 pm

Realism without action leads to apathy.

Reginald Stalworth Jr.

March 23rd, 2009
3:09 pm

The Commentor is harsh, but correct.

Clayton County = ghetto, criminally-minded, uncaring folk + crooked, inept, out-for-self politicians

So, until the trash is removed, the decent people of ClayCo will just have to wait….

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
4:10 pm

TO OH PLEASE

If your comment that you wrote stating Realism without action is apathy is related to the postings that I have made on the blog topic of the week, you are sadly mistaken and flat out wrong.

I regularly attend the Clayton County Board Of Commissioners monthly business meetings and have made comments during the Public Comment Section on this and many other problems in Clayton County so I have already put my words into actions.

I feel that you do not attend the Clayton County Board Of Commissioners on a regular basis if not at all so you are part of the apathetic crowd that you so wrote about.

So, until you put actions behing your postings, you are not in a position to respond to anyone’s comments that they post on this blog.

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
4:23 pm

TO CLEOPHUS

Everything that I have commented in my postings is the absolute truth about what is going on in Clayton County right now.

If you do not believe what I have posted in this blog, just travel down Tara Boulevard, Upper Riverdale Road, Garden Walk Boulevard, Flint River Road, Mount Zion Road, Battlecreek Road, Flint River Road, State Roads 138, 139, 85 and 54 and not only will the filth, nastiness, dirt and trash filled apartment homes, mobile homes and trailor home parks, extended stay hotels and motels, but the ghetto and criminal looking people mostly wearing low riding pants exposing their undergarments, oversized hooded jackets and sweatshirts, bling bling jewelery and gold plated teeth, uncombed hair, walking in great numbers, watching and most likely planing their next crime or criminal activity.

You can be optimistic all you want and hope for the best for Clayton County, but as of right now at present, this is how Clayton County is and it will only get worse and worse.

Clayton County is now a third world ghetto looking, crime, drug, and gang filled county with thugs, low-lifes, gangsters, criminals, uneducated poor people who greatly outnumber the “good” people of this county who work hard, live right, are law-abiding citizens, and who want to come home in peace and calm and a county that is clean, appealing, and attractive and not to the trash pit of a county that it already is.

If you do not see this county as it is right now, then I state that it is you who do not see the truth about this county and whose opinions, thoughs, and viewpoints are off-based, in error, and flat out wrong.

BC...Fast Pain Relief

March 23rd, 2009
4:40 pm

Clayton County is not business friendly! The hoops one must jump thru just to open a business in this county often leads those business owners to go to other counties. Code enforcement will write you a court date before they explain why your new business can’t have a grand opening banner put up! It’s sad! I know many business owners who just decided to go somewhere else. Code Enforcement should not be there to generate revenue for the county. The “fire Inspection” is a joke then the county sends you a bill for $100 bucks. They spent all but about 20 seconds in my place of business. In fact, they did not go past the counter! I think many of the older inspectors resent the fact that some African American business owners are opening up in Clayton and they do what they can to make the experience as unpleasant as possible.

As far as the Section 8 families who receive the blunt of the criticisism for the county’s woes. GET REAL! This county is in the shape it’s in because the commissioners have no vision, plan or stategy to move Clayton forward. One can’t blame the working poor for the problems here just as one can’t say everyone who lives here is lowlife,thug, gansta etc. I know many hard working familes who call Clayton home. ALL URBAN AREAS ARE SUFFERING! Not just clayton. My question is this, instead of complaining on a blog about the trash on Tara Blve, Get some friends together and go clean it up. When you need to shop, don’t go outside the county, spend your money here and support those business that are struggling to stay open.

P.s. Commentator, Do YOU live in Clayton County and if so WHY?

Queens in da House!

March 23rd, 2009
4:44 pm

Anybody out there been to Harlem, NYC? I lived there most of my life before coming to GA and Harlem was written off as a wasteland that would never ever be worthwhile. It’s best attributes according to some were the soul food restaurants and the Apollo Theater. Schools were bad, neighborhoods were worse, crime was rampant.

But guess what? Harlem is now one of the most lucrative areas in NYC. Why you ask? Because of its proximity to Manhattan. People with money took it back a few years ago and if you haven’t been to NYC in say 4-5 years, you literally would not recognize Harlem. A friend send me a video of a commercial actually advertising that people go to Harlem to shop and live! Never thought I’d see that in my lifetime and made me wish I bought a brownstown when the city was selling them for a dollar a decade ago!

There was a time when Harlem didn’t even have such luxuries as a REAL SUPERMARKET – yeah you read that right. You had to leave the area for food shopping or shop at a bodega (neighborhood corner store usually owned by hispanics & not a spot most people would eat out of). Now all types of businesses are all up and down 125th Street – shopping, restaurants, retail, you name it. I don’t think it’ll take as long for Clayton to bounce back as it did for Harlem.

I said all that to say that all hope is not lost for Clayton County, despite what some posters may want to believe. I get the impression that the Commentor was once a proud Clayton resident who has watched his area deteriorate so badly that now he’s scared to even hope it can turn around for the better.

Clayton can and it will turn around. We did a good job in the last election we just have to keep electing people who will do the right thing and stay on them. The decent Clayton residents also have to step up their game, get involved and let the riff raff know that we’re watching.

Country Boe

March 23rd, 2009
6:27 pm

I’m from a tiny town in Texas, with no happens what so ever! I really love it here in Clayton County. Sounds like The Commenter need to pack up and leave Clayton. Immediately if not SOONER!!

TC

March 23rd, 2009
8:02 pm

Want to help speed up the rebuilding of Clayton County? Give up “the no snitch rule”. Report all illegal activity(Yes drug activity, and code violations too!).The harder you make it for criminals, and scum, the faster they will hit the road.

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
8:34 pm

TO THE POSTER WHO POSTED ABOUT HARLEM, NEW YORK AS IT RELATES TO CLAYTON COUNTY

You are right in that it will take people with massive amount of money to come into Clayton County and change it for the better like you stated happen in Harlem, New York.

The sad, blunt, and direct truth is that one does not know when this will happen and how bad Clayton County will get before its eventual turnaround will occur.

I stand by my comments that Clayton County will continue to get far worse and will continue its fast moving downward spiral to an abyss of a county that is indeed a wasteland that is full of a population of people that are renters and not homeowners, criminal, gangster, and thuggish looking, dressing and acting youths, young adults, and teen-agers that it already is RIGHT NOW AT THIS PRESENT TIME and continues to worsen each and every day.

If you do not believe me, just go and look at the cities of Riverdale, College Park, Forest Park, and in the unincorporated areas of Clayton County located on Tara Boulevard, Upper Riverdale Road, Mount Zion Road, etc.

Because the city of Atlanta, Georgia is closing up all of its ghetto housing projects and sending all of the “BAD, UNLAWFUL, NONCARING low-life residents from these ghetto crime filled housing projects to Clayton County and because Clayton County is fast becoming the third world wasteland, trash dump, crime, gang, and drug filled county that it is RIGHT NOW AT THIS PRESENT TIME, and getting worse and worse each and every day, I personally feel that Clayton County eventual turnaround if it does occur will many, many, many years down the road and in no time in the foreseeable future.

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
8:51 pm

TO RAJA

I am doing my part in helping Clayton County by regularly attending the Clayton County Board Of Commissioners meeting and telling the Clayton County Board Of Commissioners during the Public Comment Section on the things they need to do as our elected officials to make Clayton County a better place for its citizens.

Because no one else speaks in support of a better Clayton County for its citizens during the Public Comment Section of the meeting, I have come to the conclusion that they really do not care about doing the hard, roll-up-your-sleeves work to make this county better for its citizens.

They do not seem to care as I think they should and because more Clayton County citizens like yourself do not go to these meetings and make your voice known and heard, they are not held accountable, answerable, and responsible for the decisions they make for Clayton County and they know that they can do pretty much as they please with no citizen or public outcry or outrage on any unpopular decision that they make.

No one Clayton County Board Of Commissioner can change Clayton County by themselves. It takes three Clayton County Board Of Commissioners voting together to enact, pass, and put into action any decision that they vote on.

I do not wish to run for a Clayton County Board Of Commissioner seat.

You should run for a Clayton County Board Of Commissioner seat.

Lastly, what I choose to write on this blog site is my business just as what you choose to write on this blog site is your business.

If I choose to emphasize certain of my opinions, viewpoints, and thoughts on a particular matter, it is my choice to do just as it is your choice to do the same.

If you do not like the comments that I have been making about the state of Clayton County, just don’t read them and go to the next poster.

If you think that I just post the same information, just bypass my posting and go to the next post and stop commenting on things that you cannot change like the comments that I make on this week’s blog topic by the blog master and controller Ms. Kimberly Allen.

The Commentor

March 23rd, 2009
8:55 pm

TO CLEOPHUS

You should pray for Clayton County and its quick, speedy, and rapid recovery to become the attractive, appealing, and livable county that it once was many, many, years ago.

View From Vidalia

March 24th, 2009
1:28 am

East Lake, Harlem, Clayco…all in the life cycle. Clayco’s location and indomitable spirit assures us that it will rise again! Val Lee…Sam King…Sam Taylor…who will lead our school system into its resurgence? Rev. Bourbon told us recently that Clayco must first die (like a kernel or corn) before it rises again! I think Rev. Bourbon loves this corn metaphor because he likes corn whiskey. Superintendent Val Lee appears thus far to be doing a good job at the helm. She is a Clayco Girl. You go, Girl!

taylor

March 24th, 2009
7:19 am

I have been saying for years that Tara Blvd is turning into the old Stewart Avenue. The only businesses that thrive these days are the pawn shops, title pawn, head & sex shops and strip clubs and when you even have a gym that advertises Pole dancing, that puts out a clear message that Clayton is becoming the new day Sodom and Gomorrah. Even the Christian book stores have closed down. Until we come together and rid our community of these degrading businesses like our good neighbours have we will continue to go downhill.

John Stewart

March 24th, 2009
7:39 am

Before everyone climbs aboard the jump on “The Commentator” bandwagon let me say this in his defense. As he stated he does go to the Commissioner meetings and has made public comments. Some of you are right in stating that he has seen this county decline. The truth of the matter is that the old commissioners were completely out for self in this county. I remember driving down Tara Blvd before the Olympics and it for the most part it was nothing but trees.

What businesses did they allow eventually……massage parlors and used car lots. So some of you are right…..the OLD Board didn’t have vision and I’m talking Griswell, Bray, Gray, Rhodenizer. Check the books before the Olympics and see what the home building codes were. Every house in the county had to built on an acre of land. What did you see when the Olympics rolled around? Housing codes changed by the old board (most members owned land in the county & still do) which allowed homes to be built on 1/3 & 1/4 acre lots which meant more money in their pockets.

Now let me say I fully understand Commentators view. I will say this though even though I don’t fully trust the new board is that they have a vision for the county. I don’t trust Ralph (hear me loud and clear I DON’T TRUST HIM) but can at least say he’s got ideas and does have a 10 yr plan for the county. Some of you should check it out. He has some great ideas.

I digress. Strategic change can come to this county if we work hand in hand with law enforcement and I echo TC’s comments…….let’s start policing our communities and take ownership over them. Chief Turner is doing a great (always willing to meet with community heads) as is Kimbrough in working to get this trash out the county. We have a great new Solicitor General in Tasha Moseley who doesn’t play along with new DA Lawson-Graham. Let’s work with them to accelerate the trash removal in the county which in turn will speed the coming of new business.

P.S. Since I mentioned law enforcement, does anyone know what happened with the case with Lee Scott threatening to take out Donnie Hood during the election? You want change in this county? Get Scott convicted and run him out and you will overnight see systemic change since he won’t be around to bank roll a bunch of elected officials in the county that are corrupt.

Queens in da House!

March 24th, 2009
9:25 am

Ahh but see Commentor that’s where you’re wrong! Harlem was not retaken by say a few people with massive amounts of money, but by a bunch of people with “some” money and those with a desire to live in close proximity to NY’s action. It also had leadership who although they lined their own pockets (keep it real what politician doesn’t) made moves to turn Harlem around. Agreed John Stuart – Wole is not to be trusted, he just isn’t the same person he was during his first run for office. But at least he’s got some kind of plan unlike the rest of the commissioners … now if that plan will only line the pockets of himself and other politicians who knows time will tell.

I believe those displaced from downtown Manhattan area after 9/11 went uptown because they didn’t want to leave the city. Location location location is the name of this game and is one of Clayco’s biggest assets that we (rather our elected officials) never seem to take full advantage of.

Harlem’s resurgence also took businesses willing to open in this area and no it didn’t start with high end, high quality, or big box businesses but with small businesses, some of which are still there.

Clayton is down but not out and we’re getting a little bit better as time goes on. Just like the economy Clayton didn’t decline overnight so it won’t be fixed overnight.

The Commentor

March 24th, 2009
10:22 am

TO JOHN STEWART

You are indeed right that Clayton County was wrecked and now virtually destroyed by the actions of its past Chairman C. Crandle Bray, past Commissioners J. Charley Griswall, past Comissioner Gerald Matthews, and supported by its Georgia State Legistators in the Senate most notably former State Senator Terrell Starr and former House Of Representatives Bill Lee and Jimmy Benefield who held very powerful positions while they were long time elected officials.

Clayton County was hoodwinked and robbed as it relates to Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport in that over 80 PERCENT of the airport is in Clayton County but the city of Atlanta, Georgia gets virtually all of its revenue and monetary benefits.

Even now when you drive down I-75 South and pass the Forest Park Exit which is Exit 237 and as you look to your right side before you get to the Tara Boulevard Exit which is Exit 235, you will see RIGHT NOW AT THIS PRESENT TIME the vast, large dirt wasteland with no trees and essentially a large hole and possibly a trash pit where it was formed when dirt was taken from the area to build the fifth runway at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.

I sincerely and truly hope that you and the others on this blog are right in that you see Clayton County’s positive turnaround for the better more sooner, quickly, and faster than I do.

I again do not share the optimistic view that Clayton County will turnaround no time soon in the foreseeable future because of its present majority population of people, this county having more renters than homeowners, massive and severe apathy, noncaring, looking the other way, and a accept everything and do-nothing attitute of its “good” citizens, widespread, corrupt, and crooked elected officials and politians both white and black, the income and socioeconomic status of the people coming to Clayton County, the city of Atlanta, Georgia sending, moving, and dumping all of its Section 8 Housing Project Ghetto People with their low-life criminal and destructive way of living to Clayton County, and the perception of many in the surrounding greater Metropolitian Atlanta, Georgia area that Clayton County is a third world, backwards, inept, low class, dirty, crime, gang, and drug infested, filled and overrun county that is dirty, unclean, unsanitary, nasty, filthy, messy, where virtually all of its elected officials and politians are “On-The-Take”, Lining Their Pockets For Themselves, Crooked, Corrupted, and only care about continuing to sell out Clayton County to only enriched and profit themselves and their politial contributors and supporters and work for the citizens of Clayton County who elected all of them to their politial office and trusted them to work on behalf of the citizens of Clayton County and make Clayton County a better place to live, work, play, have fun, and raise a family.

Mr Charlie

March 24th, 2009
11:59 am

As Obama’s redistribution policies kick in, and money is given to people in our society too lazy/stupid/incapable of earing it, you will see an influx if businesses opening in Clayton.

Look for Clayton to attract business that sell things like, Grills, dumb looking hats, and other accessories for people who just want to look stupid.

Of course, you will see the an influx of liquor stores, fried chicken joints, watermellon stands, resturants, tatoo parlors, and strip joints.

I imagine you will see some rim rental businesses too.

However, all these businesses will be Korean owned, and the money will be “redistributed” right back to the people earn it, and as business open, crime will increase, and eventually run these new business out of town, and Clayton will again be right were they are today.

Reginald Stalworth Jr.

March 24th, 2009
12:11 pm

We need just 2 more election cycles to make change happen in Clayton. Please vote!

Cleophus

March 24th, 2009
12:18 pm

Those who have no optimism and hope for the county should go.

Sgt Rock

March 24th, 2009
3:44 pm

Indeed there are several businesses opening in the county. I don’t characterize a small business as a “low-end business” (some exceptions apply however when it comes to socially decadent businesses ex. Starship & New York Video). The small business owner takes great pride and much personal risk in opening and running a small business and that I applaud.

What the focus should be is the density of various vertical markets within in the county, zones of economic and tax incented development areas, and strict enforcement of the new zoning codes. I am also no fan of taxes let alone higher taxes but this county has not kept pace with the property taxes. Expenditures for services now exceed income derived from property taxes. Taxes were kept intentionally low for years (and still are) to allow developers to build and sell lower cost homes. TAXES MUST BE RAISED AND SIGNIFICANTELY! (Sgt Rock has told this to the Commissioners many times…they get the message and they know the math and they know it must be done).

A good example of this is the Lake Spivey Gateway from I-75 along Georgia Route 138. Development and re-development was a joint venture between government, business and the local community and the end result is an enhanced and viable corridor leading into the county that will have a positive economic impact. A TAD (Tax Allocation District) was formed along with a special Zoning Overlay to allow for non-traditional Clayton County development. Medical facilities being built there is bring medical professionals into the area as well as bringing patients (customers).

Other zones of development are being planned as we speak but there are dark forces that are only interested in turning the quick buck. While Crandall Bray and Charlie Griswell are no longer on the forefront, rest assured that they are alive and well directing and navigating from behind the scenes with their minions of lawyers, developers, builders and sympathetic politico’s whose only interest is to line their pockets.

I begrudge no person a profit BUT that profit must be morale, ethical and in the best interest of the community. When Bray has knowledge of potential development (Lovejoy land lot that Wal-Mart currently sits atop) then purchases that land 2 years prior to Wal-Marts purchase, and him voting for the zoning request, I have a problem. He got away with it along with other scoundrels because WE THE PEOPLE allowed it to happen.

This county has potential, a lot of potential. There is an alignment of political power that has the ability, with a nudge (shove) from voters to turn Clayton County. BUT, it takes YOU…how you ask?

1. Read: Read the county code front to back. Understand zoning, the application and approval process. What you don’t understand the zoning office will explain to you.

2. Ask Questions: I have always asked the dumbest questions of County workers at all levels and have always received an intelligent answer. That doesn’t mean I roll over if the answer isn’t in the interest of the community but I will understand the mindset and philosophy enabling me to deconstruct it.

3. Visit: Show up for commission meetings, sign-up for public comment, visit commissioners and planners in their offices. They are open to conversation from regular people. You would be surprised how one visit from one person on one issue can change the direction of on thing. Imagine if just 50 voters showed up to an office…the message would be loud and clear.

4. Be Civil: In all of the above things, be civil. Civil conversation and discourse go a long way to understanding. It’s OK to disagree without being disagreeable. Leaders in Clayton County welcome discourse with voters that are engaged. Believe it or not, leaders are looking for solutions and through civil discussion YOU might be the one that brings them the answer or idea to do and “end around run” on a very complex problem.

Lastly, I read a lot about Section 8 Housing. It is illegal to discriminate against Section 8 or those that reside in Section 8 homes according to the Federal Fair Housing Act. I am repulsed personally by a form of discrimination and agree with the Act in this regard.

It is not illegal for a community to band together and place rental limitation in their community. Communities can and do place rental percentage restrictions within their neighborhoods to protect value. The standard limitation in the US is 15% but it could be lower, whatever a community decides. The reason for this limitation does not discriminate but has legitimate reasons. Once a community exceeds 25% rentals it is considered an “at-risk” community by mortgage and insurance companies. They consider them more unstable when compared to a primarily single family community. At-Risk communities must pay higher insurance premiums and higher interest rates compared to stable communities. Everyone in an at-risk community can have a FICO score of over 800 and they will still pay higher interest and insurance. When a homeowner goes to sell in an unstable community, the potential buyer must pay a higher interest rate to purchase the home. The potential buyer is attracted to other neighborhoods not at-risk.

Communities are often unwilling to limit the number of renters because of apathy. It requires civil engagement of neighbors, physical effort, organizing and finally taking action. All this must be done around family responsibilities and work. The real reason it isn’t done is that often we look for THEM to do it. If you want to get rid of Section 8 there is a legal recourse but you must be willing to take action. Anything less is a useless waste of breath.

BC...Fast Pain Relief

March 24th, 2009
7:01 pm

Mr. Charlie

Let’s talk about the redistribution of wealth foa minute. For every dollar metro Atlanta contributes in taxes, we get back .68 Cent! But when Grady Hospital, Metro School systems, Marta, etc, need financial assistance, The state is quick to turn their back on us. I am in favor of dividing Georgia into two seperate states. North Georgia and South Georgia. Then, N. Georgia would not have to support rural south Georgia just as they refuse to support

BC...Fast Pain Relief

March 24th, 2009
7:13 pm

At least President Obama is talking about the problems facing us. Bush acted as if nothing was wrong. Redistribution of wealth? When 2% of the people control 75% of the money, it kind of blows your notion out the water that money will go to the poor. You Republican conservatives had a golden opportunity to prove your platform planks. Instead, you blew it! BIG TIME! Just like in the State of Georgia. Don’t you think the average hard working middle class family is feeling the betrayel? The only think to come from the capitol is a hedge loan..No strike that, An advance courtesy of the taxpayers who are now required to finance a nucler power plant with no price tag! They passed a bill to eliminate the ad valorem car tax BUT imposed a sales tax on cars valued under $5,000! That’s right, cars tha cost more than $5,000 are exempt! No here is where the real redistribution of wealth is. WHO buys cars under $5,000? The Poor, Middle class working people etc. They are more inclined to buy a used vehicle. So this is a classic tax redistribution card trick. Conservatives are in rebuilding mode. Blame the poor people, the section eight people all you want but keep this in mind. If it the middle class, established homeowners would not put their property on the section 8 program, there would be no section 8 tenants! It takes two to tango baby! Why would they put their property on section 8? Because they can’t sell or don’t want to sell!

The best thing to do is stop complaining on the blog and take action with positive outcomes. The poor people are not the reason America is in the shape she is in. If one watches the news with any regularity, One could easily surmise it’s the rich who have driven this country into the ground.

TranformationGeek

March 24th, 2009
9:38 pm

Mr. Charlie, you talk all this about Obama, but how soon we all forget about $4.00-$5.00 per gallon for gas, massive job loss, massive job outsourcing overseas and etc.! Mr. Charlie, your folks have driven the country in the GROUND! Now, somehow you can predict the FUTURE on today’s spending. Where were your FUTURE predictions over the LAST EIGHT YEARS!! Get a LIFE! Clayton will recover if we got rid of the GONE IN THE WIND theme!

TranformationGeek

March 24th, 2009
10:30 pm

STEALTH PATROL

March 24th, 2009
10:51 pm

TO: The Commentor,Sgt Rock, Reginald Stalworth Jr.& ESR

Please move to Alpharetta, John’s Creek or Helena. Oh, I forgot you’re not that financially savvy. Clayton County WILL NOT improve until certain people start acting ETHICALLY and MORALLY. While you’re the DIRTY ONES!!!

BC...Fast Pain Relief

March 24th, 2009
11:04 pm

Keep in mind also. Section 8 was changed to Housing Choice. One of the requirements to receive Housing choice is that a family must be employed at least 25 Hrs Per Week or in school as a full time student. The verification is done every 90 days and every year for their annual certification. So everyone on the Section 8 (Housing Choice) program has a job or they are not on section 8! This is a HUD mandate for program participation.

The Commentor

March 24th, 2009
11:11 pm

TO STEALTH PATROL

You blog and post like the unintelligent, uneducated, and misinformed ignorant (THE WORD IGNORANT ONLY MEANS LACKING KNOWLEDGE ABOUT A FACT OR SUBJECT) person that you are on the subject matter present on the blog topic of the week.

If you are indeed knowledgable educated, and informed about the subject matter presented on the blog topic of the week, then your posting should reflect this by posting your own viewpoints, opinions, and thoughts on this blog topic and not commenting on the postings of others who posted in a very intelligent, orderly, knowledgeable, smart, educated, and detailed way making a very good and credible argument in support of their positions on the blog topic of the week.

Because your posting does not reflect this, it is safe to say that you are in no position to comment on anyone’s posting and that you have no credibility and do not know what you are talking about.

Sgt Rock

March 25th, 2009
9:22 am

Stealth Patrol: My comments, while containing some opinion based upon experience mostly contain facts rather than conjecture.

Would you please expound on your comment “Clayton County WILL NOT improve until certain people start acting ETHICALLY and MORALLY”, specifically “who are certain people” and please define and describe in detail your allegation of unethical and immoral actions to which you refer.

Please define and describe to me in detail how I am one of the “DIRTY ONES” to which you refer.

I must refer to my previous post to emphasis the need for civil discourse rather than ostensible comment which garners either party or the third person no advantage to move forward. An element of conflict in any discussion is a very good thing. It shows everybody’s taking part, and nobody left out. I like that.

Written Most Sincerely and Thank you in advance.

~Sgt Franklin Rock

posterchild

March 25th, 2009
10:20 am

John Stewart:

As someone who has lived in Fayette County, I can tell you that many people here wish that we didn’t have The Pavillion… perhaps Clayton might want to annex it in? I mean, really, it’s a strip mall, and there isn’t much that classy, upscale, high-end about it.

Gomer Pyle vs. Sgt. Carter

March 25th, 2009
11:59 am

Clayton County will recover! Just like America will recover. Look at the stock market making a comeback under Obama! You Go Boy! If anything has been learned it is that the conservative notion that economics “trickle” down is a lie and a failure. Money is hoarded by those at the top and when the people at the bottom of the totem pole demand a “their fair share” conservative hollar it’s an unfair redistribution of wealth. Give me a break!

SA

March 25th, 2009
12:10 pm

Posterchild,

How true! I stopped going to the Pavillion about 6 years ago and I live in Clayton County!

hthrmrtn

March 25th, 2009
2:37 pm

I dont know how long most of you have been living in CC but I can attest having lived there for the past 34 yrs watching Mt. Zion Blvd go from having all those fine upscale stores and being the place to go for shopping before up and fled to Henry CO making it the fastest growing county a few years ago. Why in the world would folks want to move and sell there homes when they still could? Because they watched the Olymics come and the housing projects get tore down for the honor of the ATL hosting something so of course you can make your own assumptions. I just know that Morrow once was a great place to live now it sucks

Melanie Lee

March 25th, 2009
7:22 pm

Clayton will recover, but only after the riff raff is run off!

STEALTH PATROL

March 25th, 2009
9:27 pm

TO: The Commentor, Sgt Rock, Reginald Stalworth Jr. & ESR
You criticizers are worthless all you do is come on this Blog and complain. You are too impotent, inept and too incompetent, hopeless to run for Public Office to do anything about this county. All you do is play Monday morning politics/quarterback, hindsight is always 20/20. Look back over your own lives; you all were born with a silver spoon in your mouths. I can tell by your tones what color you are! Look at it like this with all the advantages you’ve had in lives in America, and you’re still in Clayton crying on this Blog. You are all failures, you’ve had over 160 years of land ownership which equals worth, however you all were too stupid to maintain your wealth, the wealth that was handed down to you by your forefathers and fathers. See now you’re broke you can’t move to Alpharetta with the others who were able to maintain their wealth. Come on now, make something of yourselves Run for office, commission, school board something = you said provide a viable solution; there you have it, run for office and make a difference!

Gomer Pyle vs. Sgt. Carter

March 25th, 2009
10:06 pm

Why would anyone in their right mind run for any office in Clayton County? They would get shredded to bits on the blogs!

Sgt Rock

March 26th, 2009
6:07 am

Stealth Patrol: You’re argumentum ad hominem is a fallacious. I see you avoided answering any of my questions instead offering an incendiary comment concerning race, perceived wealth and status. The ad hominem position has been well documented for over 3000 years and is always the refuge of having a weak argumentative position.

I do not and have never have condoned, judged or alleged anything based upon the foundations of your inflammatory remarks. BTW, perhaps you need to re-read my posts…nowhere do I ask for anyone to “provide a viable solution”. Obviously Delusions of Reference.

“Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you’re a man, you take it.”

Stealth Patrol: You’re Dismissed

~Sgt. Franklin Rock

posterchild

March 26th, 2009
9:12 am

SA:

I’m almost afraid to say where I prefer to do my shopping on that side of town… feels like you can’t let the nice things out of the bag :)

John Stewart

March 26th, 2009
9:23 am

Well Prof. Rock that is one way to intellectually dismiss someone. *amn!!! BTW I know Prof. Rock Ms. Stealth Patrol (the ms. is due to your *itchin’) and can say you are 200% off on him and I’m a black man telling you that.

You want change in this Clayton? Take heed to one of Ghandi’s quotes –

“Be the change you want to see in the world.”