Apple wants 8 Samsung devices removed immediately
Apple iPhone (left) and Samsung Galaxy S III (AP)
Iphone maker Apple Computer wants eight Samsung mobile phone devices banned from sale in the U.S. immediately, days after winning a $1 billion patent infringement lawsuit. But its South Korean rival vows to take “all necessary measures” to prevent that from happening.
Apple’s request is expected to be considered by a federal judge Sept. 20 in California. At the same time Samsung is going to ask that the potentially crippling verdict be thrown out due to lack of evidence. Apple is expected to ask that damages be tripled to more than $3 billion.
The models Apple wants removed are among more than 20 Samsung devices a San Jose jury said infringed on Apple’s software and hardware designs for the iPhone and iPad. The jury ruled Samsung copied innovations such as scrolling and zooming in on a screen by double tapping, and Apple’s setup for displaying icons.
The immediate Samsung list includes older devices and those sold mainly online, including the Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy S2 AT&T, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S2 T-Mobile, Galaxy S2 Epic 4G, Galaxy S Showcase, Droid Charge and Galaxy Prevail. The list doesn’t include the new Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note. The U.S. District Court judge hearing the case had already banned Samsung’s Galaxy Tab 10.1 from the U.S. market.
It could be months or even years, however, before the dispute is finally resolved. Samsung plans to appeal.
“We will take all necessary measures to ensure the availability of our products in the US market,” Samsung Electronics said in a statement carried by Dow Jones News Service. Samsung also said it would consider “workarounds” to devices “as a last resort” to get around the patent concerns.
Since Samsung relies on Google’s Android operating system, the big question is whether Apple now will go after Google and its hardware partners with patent infringement suits. Google maintains that most of the infringement and patent claims do not relate to the core Android operating system.
It is said that imitation is the best form of flattery. Is Apple being unrealistic to think that it can prevent its technology from being imitated?
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177 comments Add your comment
Power Droid User
August 28th, 2012
2:48 pm
“the world needs sheep too!”
Power Droid User
August 28th, 2012
2:49 pm
Arlo, does that biga** phone from the 90s have a bigger screen than your iphone? I bet it does.
Power Droid User
August 28th, 2012
2:52 pm
Arla, I guess apple is keeping you out of trouble by not allowing torrent apps on the iphone.
Kinda like Communist China keeps its citizens out of trouble by not allowing them access to many websites.
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
2:53 pm
No, but I have an iPad that blows that tiny Samsung screen off the map. It doesn’t fit in my pocket, but neither would that clunky Samsung.
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm
iTransmission and NowStream are torrent apps that allow streaming on iPhone.
M
August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm
Everyone hates on Apple until they buy an iPhone to use themselves. I was one of these people. It is so much more user-friendly. And, no, I am not a liberal, hippy either.
Android Lover
August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm
The iphone only became popular because it wasn’t available to everyone. You had to have AT&T or a jailbroken phone to use on Tmobile. Kudos to Google for coming up with the Android OS. Made tablets more widespread than that bland ipad (ipod touch maxi) The iphone created innovation. We all agree. We got tired of flip phones, clam shells or those ugly sidekicks. Keep your Mercedes(iphone) while I blow pass you in my Audi and BMW (Droid phones). And while you suckers are waiting in line next month at the Apple store for the boring iphone 5 (same icons), I’ll be the one uploading content to Twitter making fun of you Steve Jobs lovers.
woodrow
August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm
Foreign companies stealing our intellectual property is a serious problem for U.S. industry. I’m glad Apple won this important lawsuit. This kind of thing has cost American’s a lot of jobs and opportunities.
Hindu Elvis Pimp
August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm
Help me out……Just what use is there for an iPad that my computer and Android device cant do?….besides attache external memory via USB?
Power Droid User
August 28th, 2012
2:59 pm
Arlo: LOL, of course you have an ipad. No self-respecting apple sheep wouldn’t. Please tell me you have Apple TV to complete the trifecta.
Enjoy that dainty lil screen of yours. The iphone 5 will be samsung-sized; but by then, your tune will change.
Apple or Worm?
August 28th, 2012
3:00 pm
Hey AJC moderator, something is wrong with the system. I’ve tried to post several times before and the posts aren’t showing up. When I try to repost, it says I’ve already said that but it doesn’t show up anywhere. (And there’s nothing inflammatory or offensive in them).
Mishap
August 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
So did anyone notice the jury found the Samsung Tab didn’t infringe (the one that the judge banned before the trial)? Or that they basically came up w/ a number they liked and backed into the per device charges with the expectation of sending a punitive message (against jury instructions)?
Not that Samsung didn’t chase Apple for a while but the jury didn’t exactly go by the book on this case which may have just opened up a years long appeal process. Apple didn’t do itself any favors when it copied Android’s notification swipe down so this likely won’t be the end of the story.
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
@Hindu Elvis Pimp.. The iPad will let you do all those things without infringing on someone’s intellectual properties and copyrights.
Power Droid User
August 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
M: I had an iphone. HAD. upgraded to the Galaxy S III.
You know how when you start moving up in the world, you go from a 25″ TV to a 60″ plasma? Same concept.
Power Droid User
August 28th, 2012
3:02 pm
Arlo: Apple apparently patented the rectangular phone. Now THATS innovation!
greg ATL
August 28th, 2012
3:02 pm
Apple
Blue Helpdesk
August 28th, 2012
3:03 pm
Both are great products and have their Pros and Cons. It all depends on WHAT you are using them for. But we do joke with our customers that Apple is the BMW of Computers. Stop by our 2 locations in Atlanta and one of our technicians will be more than happy to assist your or consult you on Apple or Microsoft products.
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Apple User
August 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
When Steve Jobs died, I cried so hard. I hadn’t cried that hard since Barack Obama’s speech in Chicago on election night.
Hindu Elvis Pimp
August 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
So why buy a MAXiPad if my phone and lap top do those things already?
Apple User
August 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
fes, I articulate just fine…nothing wrong with throwing a little FU around to get the crowd fired up. How many Droid users have actually owned apple products? I personally have owned both and I prefer Apple but no need to call me a crack pipe smoking hippie there guy…I have a big boy job so why judge me for buying the new latest and greatest with my excess income? Are we forcing you to buy Apple products? I mean you should because they are better but that’s your choice.
I wonder how many of your Droid users have had to plug in your phones today? The Galaxy would die by noon.
Sent from my iPhone & iPad…not the Droid
Apple or Worm?
August 28th, 2012
3:05 pm
Really??? That post showed up, but the one below didn’t?
Longtime Apple user here, and while I still prefer the Mac OS to Windows (pry it from my cold dead fingers if you must), I have seen a disappointing decline in Apple’s customer service and ‘out-of-the-box’ usability over the last 8 years. I’m all for protection of intellectual property, but as Chip noted at 2:13 pm, the patent system is out of what when things like shapes and microbes can be patented (as some pharmaceutical companies have tried to do). How in the heck does one justify patenting a shape? I liked Apple a lot better when it was the underdog; now it’s positioned to become the new dark overlord.
Mishap
August 28th, 2012
3:06 pm
woodrow,
What jobs did it cost here? Android is developed up the street from Apple and all of the devices are built in China from chips Samsung builds. They might as well be built in the same factory. Apple has a fairly small engineering group compared to the rest of Silicon Valley and their R&D budget is minuscule.
Samsung skinned Android w/ a few icons that looked very similar to Apple ones and they stuck w/ the chrome trim + glass look which is where it went wrong for them. They’ve moved past it and are innovated faster than Apple (see Galaxy SIII). $1B which is likely to be reduced or overturned won’t necessarily change anything.
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:06 pm
By the time I put an OtterBox on my iPhone, it’s about as big as I want a device I carry in my pocket. I can’t imagine the enormity of that Samsung phone with a similarly protective case. Will it come with wheels?
Apple or Worm?
August 28th, 2012
3:07 pm
make that ‘out of whack’ patent system… (finally get the darn thing to show up and have to edit the typos, lol)
Apple User (The real one)
August 28th, 2012
3:07 pm
Nice imposter…I didnt write that about Obama. I vote republican, own guns and use Apple products. Why does one need to be a Liberal to use Apple?
Sent from my crack pipe
Neal C
August 28th, 2012
3:08 pm
the government better do what apple orders—they are the most powerful corporation in the world
Christopher Seward
August 28th, 2012
3:10 pm
Well, Apple or Worm, I’m looking at your post now. Don’t know about the previous problems.
??
August 28th, 2012
3:10 pm
Apple User: “why not have the latest and greatest?”
LOL, the last iphone came out almost 12 months ago. That’s an eternity in the phone market. For you to think it is still the latest and greatest shows your ignorance.
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:11 pm
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
@Hindu Elvis Pimp.. Because your phone infringes on Apples patents.
??
August 28th, 2012
3:12 pm
Arlo, no, the Sammy doesn’t come with wheels. It may not fit in your dainty lil hands, Mr. precious.
Does the iphone come with a magnifying glass for the screen?
??
August 28th, 2012
3:13 pm
Arlo, the sammy probably won’t fit in your tight leather pant pockets either.
Android Lover
August 28th, 2012
3:13 pm
Woodrow, what job opportunities did Apple create lately besides those Geniuses (Dummies) in the Apple Store? But if you are in China, there should be plenty of Foxconn jobs. There are at least 10 suicides a day there.
Yeah Right
August 28th, 2012
3:14 pm
The funniest part of all this to me is the fact that the screen on the iPhone that all the iFools love is made by… you guessed it, Samsung!
Android Lover
August 28th, 2012
3:15 pm
Here we go with this political BS!! Can we have a comments section without politics or racism!! You all know America will never vote in a Mormon. Let them enjoy the rain in Tampa!!
Vin Santo
August 28th, 2012
3:15 pm
Patents ripoffs have always existed and will contine to exist for as long as there is competition. The problem with Samsung though is that with there latest set of products they went a little too far and tipped the proverbial glass. Is this lawsuit best for the Market? Of course not, but it is necessary. It’s probably not good for Apple either since between an appeal and they next they will rip no benefits. But this will hopefully make Samsung think twice before they make their phones look like an overgrown Apple product.
As far as which technology is best, it’s a silly argument. They both have their advantages and trade offs. iPhones are great for their ease of use and content, while Android based phone have almost infinite flexibility. Each technology has its nich in the market, but there is no need to make one look a smacked copy of the other.
Hindu Elvis Pimp
August 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
@Hindu Elvis Pimp.. Because your phone infringes on Apples patents.
What makes you think I have a device that is on that list? I never said I have one.
Doofus
??
August 28th, 2012
3:18 pm
Vin is right. No other phone should be rectangular in shape. Apple patented that. Any company that makes a rectangular phone should be sued. Apple invented that shape through shear genius and hard work.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/apple-patent-win-good-apple-bad-samsung-lousy-124403804.html
Hindu Elvis Pimp
August 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
Never engage in discourse about the superiority of one device vs the other with someone willing to stand in line all day for a slightly different device than the one they have now…..Which they stood in line all day before they go it.
Apple > Droid
August 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
I just saw Gary’s comments about his 22 hour talk time while watching movies…hilarious
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
What makes you think I stood in line? Inever said I stood in line.
Doofus!
??
August 28th, 2012
3:27 pm
Of course apple batteries last longer… the screen is half the area!
Oh yeah, you can’t even replace batteries on the iphone… so when the battery goes bad, you have to get a new phone! Apple marketing genius at work! So innovative!
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
@??… I am sure that the Sammy fits in your ham hands and jorts quite nicely.
??
August 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
Arlo’s leather pants are on too tight… take the iphone out of your pocket and BREATHE.
Hindu Elvis Pimp
August 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
What makes you think I stood in line? Inever said I stood in line.
Doofus!
Your mother is so nice to you……I hope you bought her something nice for mothers day.
@??
August 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
You are such a troll…you keep your droid & I will keep my iPhone.
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:31 pm
Yeah, the iPhone and other things fill out my leathers, but at least it’s not my head up my patoot that is stressing the seams in my jean shorts.
crackbaby
August 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
This is a software issue. Not hardware – banning the devices is inappropriate. As stated above, the years long legal process renders technology irrelevant by the time a court renders a decision.
Apple User
August 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
Actually, you can change the Apple battery…NEXT!
??
August 28th, 2012
3:33 pm
I just made a new phone with the same number of pixels but an even SMALLER display than the iphone. I’m going to call it the Cornea display and sell it for twice as much.
Do you think Apple will sue me for stealing their concept of brainwashing customers with good marketing?
Arlo
August 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
Hindu, don’t understand your comment, my mom passed in 2004, but please tell your mom I said hi next time you go upstairs to get a juice box.