Quiznos sub chain pondering bankruptcy filing

The Quiznos  sub sandwich chain, which has multiple locations in metro Atlanta, is still trying to decided whether it will seek Chapter 11 bankruptcy court protection to deal with its massive debt.

The Associated Press reported Friday that the company is still trying to negotiate with creditors, including former company executives, landlords and developers, who are owed $875 million. The chain wants to owe them a lot less and if it doesn’t get deep concessions with all of the creditors – it has deals with three-quarters of them so far – bankruptcy will follow.

The company did not disclose how its restaurants and franchise relationships would be affected if it decides to file for Chapter 11. In May of 2010, the company announced plans to develop up to 600 new locations nationwide by the end of 2010, through corporate-owned and Quiznos-funded joint venture opportunities.

The company has closed about 1,500 locations in recent years, leaving it with about 3,500 as of July, AP reports. Quiznos has more than two dozen locations in metro Atlanta.

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islandchefin

December 24th, 2011
4:02 pm

Hmmmm, such a large company, Wonder if it was mismanagement or do they have a bad product? I’ve never eaten there….have any of you?

kev

December 24th, 2011
4:05 pm

not to be a smart one, but Quizno’s isn’t a “subway” chain is it?

phillip

December 24th, 2011
4:06 pm

The Quizno’s in LaGrange is now shuttered. Had a pretty good location on the square right in downtown. It was up and down. Up and down. I thought it was a little pricey, but the product was pretty good.

Epiphany

December 24th, 2011
4:07 pm

Quiznos makes good sandwichs but their prices are too high. Need to run more specials like Subway. Used to give great coupons, but they stopped that also. Gotta go where you get the best deal. Sorry.

kev

December 24th, 2011
4:07 pm

…. and they should’ve seen it coming years ago. How do you charge more than your biggest competitor (subway) when they have more brand recognition AND they put a lot more meat on their sandwiches… that scale in Quizno’s left you with nothing but bread every time. Even when they’d give out those coupons to corporate offices- a meal would STILL cost near double that of a footlong combo at subway.

Merry Xmas

December 24th, 2011
4:09 pm

Well, this answers things… kinda. The other day we stopped at 2, both closed. Gave up and went to Publix. BUT these are franchises. Who’s dropping the ball on marketing and schooling the owners who buy in? – they all tend to do what they want. Great (addictive – lol) product, but over priced. We never go without a coupon.

Franck

December 24th, 2011
4:13 pm

put a fork in it… they’re done

Uga

December 24th, 2011
4:13 pm

Food is pretty mediocre. It looks good, is marketed well, and isn’t bad, but it’s not the kind of place most folks would go out of their way for, and I doubt it’s many folks’ first choice when there are other fast-food options.

Bob

December 24th, 2011
4:15 pm

Personally, I was turned off Quizno’s when they switched to Pepsi products. Is there a correlation between their recent struggles and those of Arby’s, Fuddrucker’s, and Blimpie for companies that switched from Coke to Pepsi?

Linda

December 24th, 2011
4:15 pm

Their food was good, but was too pricey for sandwiches. Needs to be more competitive with Subway types.

Merry Xmas

December 24th, 2011
4:15 pm

Side note… I found the Subway has gone up as well when I tried ordering my usual 6″ on a day when it wasn’t the value meal – $7 bucks. A salad and a drink came to similar one day. Hope they save themselves through marketing and specials, low fat line, etc.

Light

December 24th, 2011
4:15 pm

The food was very good but agree with other posters, very pricey. More money should have been put into marketing and establishing their brand and offering discounts. To me they are in a different class than Subway, maybe more in line with Firehouse Subs.

Merry Xmas

December 24th, 2011
4:16 pm

Bob, Papa John’s recently announced a switch to Pepsi as well.

Merry Xmas

December 24th, 2011
4:18 pm

Light, is Firehouse similar? Never tried them. TRUE, better quality than Subway, btw.

mar c ah

December 24th, 2011
4:24 pm

Wow……….. Quizno’s is much better tasting than Subway. Any sandwich maker in their right mind that has done their homework on types of ingredients in sandwiches should know damn well that you put provolone cheese on, or at least have it available to offer for an Italian sub, not American. Hint, hint SW.

Jason

December 24th, 2011
4:39 pm

Have visited the one in Dunwoody on several occasions over the last few years and the product seems good. The store has changed hands as of a year ago and was closed for several months in between. Hard to judge the company on this store though because Dunwoody is such a business unfriendly town. Earlier this year, the city of Dunwoody ran off Chick-fil-a who wanted to open a store there :(

PT worker

December 24th, 2011
4:45 pm

I tried Quiznos several times but they cost more than Subway and their sandwich is not all that special. I loved Fuddruckers also and was sadden when they closed because of the 1 LB burger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kneel Borezt

December 24th, 2011
5:02 pm

Subway is MUCH better than Quiznos. The market has spoken.

Joseph Pearl

December 24th, 2011
5:07 pm

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It’s too bad that while Quiznos is trying to work out debt restructuring with its creditors, It may have to seek Chapter 11 protection. Consumers quit buying their subs as a result of the recession. It’s apparent that they are ready to seek bankruptcy protection if they cannot work out the debt.

Ned Puddleman

December 24th, 2011
5:13 pm

I think their food is good. However, I always have trouble ordering because the Indians that work there have a hard time understanding what I want and it is hard to point to it on the menu because the menu is too small.

blah blah

December 24th, 2011
5:17 pm

not selling enough of those great torpedo subs eh?

Astropig

December 24th, 2011
5:18 pm

I think that its Karma or poetic justice…A few years ago when the chain was taking off and ready to grow,expand and prosper, the founding family essentially stole it from the public shareholders that had put up the capital to make it a nationwide chain. these jokers hired consultants to agree that the lowball price that they offered was “fair” and their pet insider directors went along with it.They got the gold mine, we got the shaft. Good to see that they got a taste of their own medicine.

RichD

December 24th, 2011
5:19 pm

Bankruptcy has become the coward’s way out in this country. Gee, I’ll just borrow a bunch of money from others and start a business…if it doesn’t work out, I’ll declare bankruptcy. Screw the people who loaned me money…then I’ll just do it all over again. Frankly, it’s the lawyers that set up this system of no personal responsibility…never met a lawyer that was worth a crap.

If you borrow money and agree to pay it back with interest, then do it.

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bs

December 24th, 2011
5:21 pm

@Ned – I agree. Quiznos seems to be going the way of Dunkin Donuts. Trying to not be offense just observational, but many DD’s are run by Indian/Pakistani operators and they tend to be very cheap, and I stopped going to DD’s because you barely get frosting on the doughnuts and the quality of food went down hill. The same is happening with Quiznos.

jb

December 24th, 2011
5:38 pm

First of all it has nothing to do with Indian ownership (Subway has many more Indian owner / operators)- it has nothing to do with the economy (fast food concept chains have uniformly benefited from the economy)- it has nothing to do with Pepsi (the restaurants mentioned above that are closing are owned by Yum! Brands- a huge stakeholder in Pepsi- they are closing because Yum! has decided to focus those concept restaurants overseas, primarily China and India)- it has nothing to do with Bankruptcy being a “way out” (any one who has an MBA or has attended business school will tell you that BK is part of a standard business plan- put all the money in the owner’s LLP or LLC and then declare BK).

THE MAIN REASON QUIZNO’S IS FAILING IS DUE TO OVER PRICING.

I would not be surprised if they over price ON PURPOSE- just so that they can justify “market conditions” ostensibly so that they can keep their fortune and move on to another concept restaurant franchise system.

bs

December 24th, 2011
5:44 pm

KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are the only Yum Brands. Quiznos trades as Fooster (I think Foods), Papa Johns trades as Papa Johns International

Dagwood Bumstead

December 24th, 2011
5:44 pm

Good riddance! Another “Become a millionaire!” franchisor about to go down the drain while taking their franchisee’s life savings with them. One more down and many to go until our strip shopping centers are once again filled by real, locally owned and developed businesses. I can hardly wait! It will be nice to eat real food again instead of something shat out of the back of a Sysco truck.

bs

December 24th, 2011
5:45 pm

And Subway has gotten cheap too.. you can barely get olives on a footlong sub. I rarely eat there anymore either.

Merry Xmas

December 24th, 2011
6:07 pm

Never seen a Quiznos that’s Indian owned and ran. On the flip, never seen a Subway that wasn’t – however they’ve been some of the nicest I’ve encountered period in “fast food”.

ML

December 24th, 2011
6:12 pm

Mmm…mmm…TOAST!

kp

December 24th, 2011
6:15 pm

“Quiznos subway sandwich chain, which has multiple locations in metro Atlanta, is still trying to decided….”

subway chain? trying to decided?

who writes this stuff? my 13 year old niece writes better than this (and she goes to a government school).

todd

December 24th, 2011
6:27 pm

JB- the main reason Quiznos is going out of business is that they have come late (relatively) to the party and Subway has all the prime spots in “A” shopping centers with large retail anchors. I have owned many franchises in the past and location in an anchored center is just about guaranteed success. Most Quiznos are found in B or C locations and just cannot get the foot traffic to meet the numbers needed. When the average ring is less than $10 you need lots and lots of feet coming through the door to make it. Personally I thought their product was far superior to Subway and will be sorry to see them go.

Bill

December 24th, 2011
6:44 pm

What happened to newspapers that can proof read? Just like the AJC.

artyc

December 24th, 2011
6:53 pm

THE MEAT WAS CUT PAPER THIN YOU COULD SEE THROUGH IT
THE PEOPLE WHO RAN THE STORES LOOKED DIRTY i THINK THE PRODUCT
FOR THE PRICE THEY CHARGED WAS OVER PRICED.
JERSEY MIKES HAS A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THE SANDWICHES ARE PACKED WITH FRESH MEAT.

James

December 24th, 2011
7:17 pm

Some of the highest quality fast food I ever ate.You cant target the masses without $3.99 specials and they cant do it without lowering the quality of the food.I personally dont care much for Subway but they’re doing something right.I have never understood why if your in the fast food business you would buy pepsi from a company that owns your compitition(KFC,Taco Bell,Pizza Hut).

ABBYSENIA

December 24th, 2011
7:21 pm

JB said it best. I too have a degree in business. I would like add to what you said, that a few years ago the concept was fresh and new. The economy was also doing fairly well with people not blinking at spending $8+ on lunch(that’s what you spend there on the CONSERVATIVE average), i’ve spent as much as about $12…but I’m a single male…i can do that. Anyway, I think they did NOT evolve with the economy and they over saturated their product. It now costs too much for the AVERAGE consumer. I think most of the locations I’ve been too have had good food, I haven’t been disapointed with my purchases…but I have had buyers remorese sometimes…LOL

Call Me Crazy But

December 24th, 2011
7:22 pm

The food just isn’t good, and it’s too expensive…the Douglasville location has the most depressing, dry workers ever. Feels like you’re walking into a mortuary. Love Firehouse and Lenny’s!!!

Mr Torpedo Sub

December 24th, 2011
7:31 pm

My guess is that they wouldn’t be filing BK had they spent less than they earned regardless of the price of their subs.

Subboy

December 24th, 2011
7:40 pm

I agree with Dagwood: These chain stores offer inferior products at increased prices. There’s one Quiz in Gainesville and the owners are very nice. Hate to see them go. However, the prices were not competitive with local sandwich shops which probably cost them customers. If you ever in Gainesville, tryout Turnstile Deli. Amazing!!!

Jazzy1700

December 24th, 2011
7:47 pm

I don’t care what everyone thinks. For me if you sell Pepsi instead of Coke, I don’t eat there! Stevie B’s just started Pepsi, Notice East West connector store just closed. And it was a new store. Makes you think. Atlanta is a Coke town.

Robert

December 24th, 2011
7:56 pm

Bring back Bob. I miss Bob.

Glenn

December 24th, 2011
8:10 pm

If they hadn’t wasted money on hiring an advertising firm that put out the commercials with those obnoxious “cats,” maybe they could have actually found a way to intice customers to come in and try their food. All their commercials did was scare people away.

urban redneck

December 24th, 2011
8:26 pm

i’d go more often if it wasn’t 20 bucks for two people to eat lunch. if you want a good sub, go to publix deli.

Tom

December 24th, 2011
8:40 pm

1) Corresponding failure with what soft drink is served is, at best, ignorant. More than a few chains that serve Crack have struggled too but people locally refuse to associate any hint of failure with the Polar Bear Executives.
2) In this economy, pricing is the main determining factor for most people. While some people just like Subway and some just like Quiznos, a lot of people may like them both but find they can’t justify the higher prices that Quiznos was guilty of. Location does matter too (people associate convenience with gas prices) and Quiznos really had struggled on that front.

Michael Marr

December 24th, 2011
8:48 pm

As a bankruptcy lawyer all I can say is !Bankruptcy Rocks! Everybody’s doing it, why not you?

phillip

December 24th, 2011
8:54 pm

Somebody way up earlier mentioned Publix. I have discovered that Publix has an outstanding salad offering. I eat at the LaGrange Publix probably three times a week. They have Greek Salads, Seven Layer Salads, a Buffalo Wing Salad, and a salad with eggs on top of it. Cost about $4.79 and there is a fountain drink dispenser right by it. I check out and sit over in the little dining area and have a very peaceful, and nice lunch and observe some of the scenery that comes strolling in.

Shannon, M.Div.

December 24th, 2011
9:00 pm

Ah, shades of Schlotzsky’s. I loved that place, but the food was expensive and *terrible* for you.

I believe that it’s struggling because there isn’t room in the market for both Quizno’s and Subway (not to mention Blimpie), and Subway has positioned itself as a healthy alternative to fast food.

But the market share for those sandwiches is low. I believe it’s smaller than the burgers/fried chicken/taco market because it doesn’t lend itself to drive-thru.

Mickey7

December 24th, 2011
9:09 pm

Rich D got to disagree. Yes if you take a loan you should pay it, but that is why you have interest rates (hence the term rate). Loans are risks, not guarantees.

John Hadden

December 24th, 2011
9:24 pm

As a past part owner of a Quizno’s I can tell you greed has killed this concept. They force you to buy all of the ingredients from them and the food cost was horrible. Very little corporate support, all they wanted was the money. When you combine high food cost, high rents, and a sagging economy with little corporate support you get a failed concept. I still think they have a superior product, but you can’t have it on a subway budget.

John Hadden

December 24th, 2011
9:27 pm

Rich D, a loan is an assumption of risk. If the bank doesn’t think the concept or the individual is strong enough then they shouldn’t make a loan. Too many times banks give money to people that they shouldn’t.

NO BRAINER Freaky Fast!

December 24th, 2011
9:27 pm

Jimmy John’s is hands down the best sandwich…don’t let the words “Gourmet Sandwiches” scare you it’s not EXPENSIVE!! It’s a 8 inch sandwich that cost $5.49 and has great ingridents (real non-watery meat). Plus, they freaking deliver it FAST.
Subway: is simply disgusting and is the lowest quality possible.
Quiznos: overpriced and mediocre quality
Publix: good quality but a hassle to a good sub. Long lines, parking, waiting to checkout
Jersey Mikes: Great sub but damn I will just eat a Steak at Chops or Bones if I want to spend that $

Jimmy johns blows all them away considering the quality, price, speed to service, and the fact that they deliver…I eat there or get it delivered at my office two to three times a week.

PR

December 24th, 2011
9:34 pm

Quiznos deserves to be shut down. Had a coupon from them that I got sent to me on-line. Went to their store up in Dalton…they refused to honor it. Told them to stick it up their azz. Quiznos problem is BAD MANAGEMENT and terrible employees.

Ha

December 24th, 2011
9:41 pm

Remember the stick in me scott commercials. How many freaking time was that rammed down our throat (pun intended). I am glad they are done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LQpRQh2KSQ

Random

December 24th, 2011
9:47 pm

I find it strange people want options but won’t budge on pricing. ” I don’t want to pay 20 bucks for 2 people to eat” What exactly aren’t you ordering? Quizno’s from a customer stand point is a fantastic sub place. So “Indians” run the location you visit. and..??? Keep talking to them until they understand you, you are the customer. They won’t turn you away. It does bother me what John Hadden said, because if that is true about the owner screwing franchises then none of this other conversation matters. Without the franchises behind them they won’t stand a chance. If you want subway pricing go to subway. If you want a good sub with tasty meat go to Quiznos.

too big to fail

December 24th, 2011
10:18 pm

I find it strange that
company’s don’t realize that the customer is always right.

Bored

December 24th, 2011
10:47 pm

They haven’t been interesting since they ditched the TV ad’s from several years ago, with the two floating Sponge Monkeys screaming “We love the subs!!” and “They got a pepper bar!!” Remember those ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZrks-BPeLQ The chain was kinda funky when they brought out those ads, then switched to a more formal corporate ad campaign. *yawn*

Jarod Fogel

December 24th, 2011
11:03 pm

Subway has a deeper marketing budget, thus, will dominate this niche. Quizno’s and I just couldn’t come to terms… imagine what could’ve been.

Johnny Nashville

December 24th, 2011
11:12 pm

Decent sandwiches….but way too high. There is a location near my office and lunch there would set you back about $8-$9. I went a couple times but stopped because of the high prices.

Elton John

December 24th, 2011
11:15 pm

I always liked their tube steak subs. Loved the get the big 12″ one and choke it down. The sauce was to die for.

Whatever

December 24th, 2011
11:24 pm

Whoever implied switching from Coke to Pepsi is causing these franchises of going bankrupt is a Pepsi employee or a fool.
Schlotzsky’s is great but expensive. Blows Subway out of the water.

Whatever

December 24th, 2011
11:34 pm

*I meant Coke employee

MAD

December 24th, 2011
11:40 pm

I agree with you Kev. They keep their meat in a sandwich bag and it’s very little with high prices..

bdAMAN

December 24th, 2011
11:52 pm

Capitalism is people with selling ideas to people without ideas. The people with the quiznos idea have sold it to a lot of franchisees and now are leaving them holding the back while they have wrong all the money out of it years ago.

Scott Anderson

December 24th, 2011
11:59 pm

Everytime I have ever been to Quiznos, after I ate the sandwhich which cost too much and wasnt that good., I had to go to the restroom within 15 min.

and I mean quick stomach groans. I do not know what it was but it was not tolerable for me.

my grandmother cooked everything with lard and I had the same problem. Maybe Quizs cooks with lard.

PM

December 25th, 2011
2:08 am

Quiznos has a history of shafting the franchisees by letting them open up a shop and then allowing somebody else to open another franchise within a short distance of the first location. Then they run promotions that are paid for not by corporate but by a fund paid by the individual operators, so they get to enjoy promotions foisted on them by corporate and they get to pay for it too out of what little profit they make. BK has been doing the same thing with their “Buck double” burgers and Subway as well with the forced $5 subs now down to $2. As with all chains, Quiznos Corporate also controls the ingredient sourcing and thus price (particularly meats and veggies which are highly variable) so it’s easy to get into a situation where the food costs more to source and serve than it can be sold for, which means the franchisee loses on each sale. This leads to cutting corners and ends up making for less of a good customer experience.

Sure, many franchise companies play these same games -Subway may be worse given that they actually allow franchises that are within eyesight of each other; imagine if YOU were one of those operators. The company not only does not have your back, they are selling it out from under you. Wow. The take away from all of this is to know what you are getting into from the operator’s side. I read up on Quiznos franchising, did research, and ran the heck the other way. It is terribly sad for the operators who tried very hard and still got burned.

The sub market is getting more and more crowded. Firehouse is going gangbusters with a unique take on it, Dominos has played with some subs to mixed results, Subway is throwing down restaurants everywhere (when you are THAT big, you have to work hard to outdo the prior year results, year after year), Blimpie seems to be holding on, and there is always Publix. if Publix ever opened standalone sub stands, there’d be a real fight.

Simple Answer

December 25th, 2011
2:31 am

If consumers like your product, they will buy. If not they won’t. It is that simple.

The answer is the food id NOT quality and NOT worth the price!

alanlear

December 25th, 2011
2:34 am

The adjustable rate mortgage that I had before had me nearly to the brink of bankruptcy because of the never-ending payment increases. Now I have 3.18% fixed rate. I would absolutely recommend 123 Refinance I worked with to anyone I know planning to refinance mortgage.

z

December 25th, 2011
3:46 am

RichD— Delta, American Airlines, Wash Mutual, United Airlines, Chrysler . . . . . . . . .

LJ

December 25th, 2011
5:08 am

Anybody who says Q is failing because they switched to Pepsi products is stupid. I suppose you’re also a “Birther”. Get over it, the Civil War is past history…

JC

December 25th, 2011
6:29 am

They should have never switched from Coke to Pepsi. I haven’t been there since.

Retired Old Atlantan

December 25th, 2011
8:14 am

I’m surprised that so many people like their sandwiches at any price. It’s been years since the couple of times I ate at one, but when I did, I thought that the bread was so heavy that what was inside it wasn’t even relevant. Anyone have any comments about their buns?

Where's the beef? (or turkey)

December 25th, 2011
8:14 am

Quiznos makes a good sub and salad. They put way more meat than Subway here at our Warner Robins location. Their pink lemonade is great too. I finally caught on and take online coupons every time I go or their club emails them to us. I asked the owner how they were doing and he said they don’t make a lot of money due to the franchise fees. The cost is higher but you get more for your money that Subway. At subway you get four thin slices of meat on a six inch. More of a meat flavored veggie sandwich. Their business model is much better though, no doubt.The big dawg is not always the best dawg.

HRPufnstuf

December 25th, 2011
8:24 am

Didn’t eat there often, because of no Coke to drink. I always got water, as I refuse to drink Pepsi. Then several years ago they had those obnoxious commercials with the rats in them. Turned me off from eating there ever again.

Rich

December 25th, 2011
8:26 am

Contrary to all the negative comments, I think that Quiznos has quality sandwiches, and their struggle is a shame. I have had trouble finding an open one recently. Much better than the garbage at the fast food burger joints.

Yurtle_the_Turtle

December 25th, 2011
8:58 am

Disagree with you Mickey7..just because a loan is a risk, it bankruptcy shouldn’t be declared until you’ve exhausted all your avenues. I agree with RichD, your word is on paper and those of us with integrity say “pay what you owe”. Too many people want the easy, cheap way out of a commitment. It’s why the housing market tanked and took the economy with it. I realize that there is more to it than that, but that is a big reason for our economic problems today. Again, folks need to honor their word.

Yurtle_the_Turtle

December 25th, 2011
9:03 am

Pepsi, Coke..what’s the difference?? They’re both obnoxious companies who believe we should/have to drink their products. I drink filtered water from the tap or milk. It’s free (the water) and much better for you. I do like soda’s once in a while but don’t need to consume one in the morning like so many people crave.

Jim

December 25th, 2011
9:33 am

I’ve tried them all… Quizno’s is by far the best tasting, yet pricey. Subway is mediocre and bottom shelf ingredients that why it’s cheap. Jersey Mike’s NOT. Publix puts out a pretty good sub at times, better ingredients, good price. If you haven’t tried the Dominoes subs I suggest you give it a try, they should ditch the pizza and go with the subs, very tasty. Firehouse average at best.
Quiznos has a good product just needs to find a way to make it more affordable to the masses. The quality is great across the chains from Chattanooga to Macon. At least that’s my experience.

Sub Way

December 25th, 2011
9:58 am

Well… With those super expensive sandwiches, they should have enough money to cover themselves… Dah well. Firehouse!

Richard Bagge

December 25th, 2011
10:09 am

Quizno’s isn’t very good, but it was a whole lot better than Subway the last time I checked. Subway?! I don’t care how inexpensive their value combos are, I wouldn’t put that garbage in my mouth for free.

Ho Ho Ho

December 25th, 2011
10:42 am

I loved those singing little hamsters they used to have in their commercials!

Baltisraul

December 25th, 2011
11:45 am

Have not eaten at Quizno’s in about 7 years, so my input is less than up to date. At the time it was good. Much better than Subway. Forget about Blimpie, they are terrible. Q never got on board when all chains started to offer deep discounts and coupons on a regular basis. I am sure it was a cost factor they could not absorb. I liken them to Firehouse which has a very good product. Hope they make it. The reason I have not been back is that I moved and the Q near me shuttered the doors. If the Pakie’s and the Indian’s have taken over, your are lucky to get 2 slices of bread. Cheap, cheap and double cheap folks!!!

Old Meanie

December 25th, 2011
11:58 am

I’ve eaten at the one in Milton many times. They were on of the first entrants in the “toasted sub” segment, which tastes a lot better than the Subway/Blimpie style cold or microwaved sub. But they got surpassed by Firehouse and now Which witch. A case of the pioneer takes the arrows? And some of the business practices alluded to earlier perhaps.

The truth

December 25th, 2011
12:01 pm

@bob. You are an idiot if you think switching to Pepsi hurt those companies. As a local retailer, Pepsi has 3of the top 5 selling brands in metro Atlanta with Single serve packages of Mountain Dew outselling Coke in it’s own back yard! Maybe the fact that those chains sold Coke products for so long hurt them in the long run.

Satish

December 25th, 2011
12:22 pm

Quizno’ is a franchisor’s worst nightmare! I have heard nothing good except horror stories from people owning Quiznos. I abandoned the idea of owning Quizno’s and started my own non-franchised Sandwich shop and doing great. not burdened with the rules & regulations of franchise companies.

Uga

December 25th, 2011
12:30 pm

Despite RichD’s uninformed anger, the intertwined principles of bankruptcy and limited liability (the former of which, by the way, was recognized by our founding fathers in the Constitution) are fundamental to the modern capitalist system. While there are certainly many abuses (on the part of lenders, borrowers, and the middlemen) the modern world would not exist without them. Personally, I suspect a system of communism would dominate in a word without bankruptcy because few would ever take personal financial risks.

GATA

December 25th, 2011
12:43 pm

Food is good but too expensive for subs. But Subway needs competition so hopefully they or another sub chain can get it right. Seems like Quiznos was known for the toasted sub, then Subway caught on.

Alabama Communist

December 25th, 2011
1:10 pm

More Breaking News On Chains’s BR…A Spokensperson with the former Herman Cain Campaign said today that ” Help is on the way since Brother Cain has come up with a plan to save the Chain by offering the Gropping HotDog Special”

dave

December 25th, 2011
1:19 pm

The best deal is not always the “best price” Quiznos tried to sell cheap ass sandwich meat like Subway but charge a premium…FAIL… The best sub deal in GA is Jersey Mikes great subs fair price! Not as cheap as Subway but the subs actually have meat sliced more than paper thin and all items are of good quality

Joe

December 25th, 2011
1:55 pm

I too would like to sing the praises of Jimmy Johns. They are awesome. I love the Big John. Jersey Mike’s really is too expensive. Subway is sub par at best. Quizno’s stinks.

Les

December 25th, 2011
8:28 pm

Go to Quizno’s, and look at how much a large veggie sub costs. I went into a Quizno’s for the first time about a year ago. I asked for the largest size veggie sub in a meal (drink & chips). It cost nearly $13. The equivalent at any other sandwhich shop would cost around $7 or less.

Needless to say, I never went back. Charging $9 for a toasted lettuce sandwhich is highway robbery. No wonder they are going bankrupt… their pricing is causing them to lose customers.

No mo

December 27th, 2011
10:41 am

quiznos has gone way down in quality the last few years. I’m surprised they are still open. Just close up all these restaurants and start over.

Toasty

December 27th, 2011
11:32 am

LOL @ all the Pepsi/Coke comments. I’m from here a PREFER Pepsi products! Q also will deliver for $8 order or more. Few know about this, they need to market it better. I did it all the time when having to order for the office It’s too bad. Looks like the owners are getting screwed. BTW, they DO contain TRANS FATS.

Dan Williams

December 27th, 2011
3:38 pm

We voted with our feet, we don’t like Pepsi, we want more value for less money and we want someone that speaks English to wait on us, this is America.

flat broke

December 28th, 2011
2:38 pm

when they go under, will they cut the prices of their sandwiches to clear out all the inventory? if so, I might go there.

gourmade

December 29th, 2011
7:29 am

hey kev u actually suggest that the products subway put on their subs are meat—one would be hard pressed to describe or taste meat in their products.

Bob

December 30th, 2011
9:33 am

I don’t think it’s coincidence that the top chains (McDonald’s, Subway, CFA, Burger King, Wendy’s, etc) sell Coke and the struggling ones sell Pepsi. While the food may not change, the choice of drinks does impact where people eat. Pepsi may have the some of the top selling brands, but their sales are still far behind that of Coke in the soft drink market. Add in the fact that when many chains switch to Pepsi, they also stop offering fresh brewed tea and instead offer the Lipton Brisk fountain tea, and you have a reason for people to get the same food elsewhere. I’m not saying it’s the only reason that Quizno’s, Arby’s, and Fuddruckers have suffered over the years, but I’m saying it’s one reason.

Toasty

December 30th, 2011
12:19 pm

@Bob Pizza Hut, Taco Smell are fine and carry Pepsi. CFA also carries some Pepsi products.

Bob

December 30th, 2011
2:32 pm

Toasty…those examples are businesses that are owned by Pepsi. Pizza Hut’s core business is to deliver pizzas, and I would argue that more people simply purchase pizzas from them and not drinks as well. Additionally, the Pizza Hut restaurants where one can sit and enjoy their purchase are closing. As for Taco Bell and KFC, they both perform admirably but the competition is not as stiff. Previous comments have referenced the numerous other locations where one can purchase a sub, there are not as many that offer quick fried chicken and tacos. You could argue that Moe’s/Willy’s/Chipolte are competitors for Taco Bell, but their business models are different from Taco Bell.

CFA does carry Dr. Pepper, but that is not a Pepsi product despite the fact that it is distributed to grocery stores in the state of Georgia by Pepsi.

BrokenKnuckle

December 30th, 2011
2:36 pm

The Quinzo here in C’ville once was pretty good. It changed mgt and got worse. Then it closed then reopen a few months later, still not much better.Closed again and people running it now sells nothing but a sald sandwich. When I walked in I knew there was trouble, it’s 12:25 PM and I was the only customer there during my lunch break.

It's Publix for me

December 30th, 2011
2:39 pm

Then Larrys Giant Subs and Firehouse Subs.

PM

December 31st, 2011
11:35 am

Among the big national pizza chains, Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, and Little Ceasars are all serving Pepsi products. Dominos remains the last major national pizza chain serving Coke.

The why is simple: Coke didn’t offer a better deal. Pepsi did. If you are a big company like these pizza places, supplier costs matter, as does the markup from those prices to what they can charge end customers for the 2 liter bottles.

Besides, teens and 20s order more pizza than any other group and they want their ‘Dew.