It’s your turn to express yourself on health reform

Obama says that if I like my insurance I can keep it. I have Medicare Advantage that will be taken away from me at some point. I like it. but I will not be allowed to keep it. Bult 30 million will be able to use the money it will save Medicare. Somehow this just does’t track with his declaration.

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Obama is a liar, racist, and thief just like I said even before the thug was elected. Nothing has changed to make me believe anything different. Steal from working people and give it to his racist and thuggish supporters.

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Congress and the President have shown arrogance in trhe extreme. They went against the “will” of the people. All of the House and one third of the Senate hopefully will pay the price in November. Obama hopefully in 2012.

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We didn’t want it. They didn’t listen. See you at the voting booth…

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I have been in the military for over 22 years and am covered by a universal health plan ran by the government. It works great and we all get treated the same. We are not treated by the amount of money we make or our stature in the military. Give this a chance and if it doesn’t work, we change the law! What a novel concept.

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Why the big push for something the people didn’t want? What are you hiding Obama? Why couldn’t you all work on revamping our health rights like adults and let the voting citizens have a say…but NO, that would be so un-American! I’m not a birther, but I also tend to question why you, Obama, couldn’t just provide a hard copy of your birth certificate for public viewing and settle it once and for all. YOU SCARE ME!!!!!!

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I still want to know why doesn’t the Congress give the same health care program to the people that THEY have?

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The Liar-in-chief Obama bought, bribed and bullied enough votes to ensure his “legacy”. If you thought this was “for the people” you misunderstand the arrogance and underhandiness of this man and his administration. He doesn’t care a bit about what the people want – its about his socialistic aims and if the people get in his way, its too bad for the people. Obama lies while America dies.

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It is truly amazing reading the 11 comments below. I don’t understand why you people don’t understand that a great thing has happened today to help the American middle class- you and me. Many of us have pre-existing conditions, some of us have lost our jobs, and all of us live in a country which is now bankrupt (thanks to the last Republican administration with their illegal wars and mortgage crisis). The current system, run by deranged insurance companies looking to steal your hard earned money, would bankrupt many of us if we were to become ill for any period of time and with any medium level of severity. Thank god someone is trying to contain these criminals. God bless President Obama and the US House of Representatives. God bless us all.

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Hey Craig – what’s the difference in you taking money out of my pocket and the government doing it for you – the government has a bigger gun. And if you look closely Obama has put this country in more debt in 14 months than Bush did in eight years. But thats all right Craig, just like Obama, don’t let facts get in the way of your goals.

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Oh well, honest working people have to pay for this. No way tax or premiums don’t go up to pay for the lazy and inept. Long live the King Obama.

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Republicans kept saying the American people didn’t want this bill, BUT all my friends and I did. The REpublican party definitely doesn’t speak for me anymore. By the way, classy move Republicans, spitting on congressmen and calling them racist names Saturday. If that’s the face of the Rep party you won’t get far in November. And please look up the definition of Socialism you morons!

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If you ever wanted to live in Russia, this ought to make you happy. Vote all of the out of office. Don’t forget this in November.

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Let’s see, we’re trying to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s broke. What could possibly go wrong?

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We’ve passed a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn’t read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also hasn’t read it and smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, all t…o be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s broke!

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m915 you need to go back to school and learn how to communicate.

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Boo hoo-hoo we didnt get what were crying about.

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Healthcare, Sieg Heil! It’s 1933 all over again. The Nazis are back.

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Congratulations Seniors! Guess how much they just cut from Medicare and you seniors thought the Democrats would protect you. Silly senior’s Good health care is only for congress.

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Craig – you gotta stop trying to reason with stupid. stupid cannot be changed unlike ignorant which can be changed with education. The vocal minority lost this one. I’m revelling in this day knowing that big insurance will now be held accountable to all of us. Even the stupid that will never acknowledge it. God Bless America, every darn one of us – even the stupid.

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I can finally get insurance coverage!!! I can finally find out what this lump is you people have not understanding, I have worked all my life and now I just want to be working again and have insurance. If you can’t relate to that then you are a ANIMAL! But you will send money to foreign countries for wars and hurricanes, but you not willing to help an AMERICAN, we are a sick country!

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I wish we would have had this fire behind “No Child Left Behind Act” that Bush passed. Maybe we could have saved out children!!!!!! At least this is a law that will potentially save their health, since we’ve ruined the education status across the world!

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Jim Marshall is just plain messed up. The boy does not have a clue. I repeat the boy does not have a clue. A Man would have stepped up to the plate – Jim votes to presumably prfeserve his job – forget the people who put him where he is. Go Away Jim!

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Yall said that same thing about Social Security. Now look at you–scared SH**TLESS it might go away!!!! GREAT Job, Mr. President and Supporters!!!!

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How does Pelosi think this is going to help the economy wiith the new tax mposed on the small business owners…this is SO going to slow the economy!! And to tax every dollar over $200 K is going to keep the people from reaching their full potentials so the gov’t doesn’t take it away!

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The only thing sad about today for you Republicans is that the Democrats have FINALLY done to you what you have done to them and the American People for so many years!!! Replace Obama with Bush and you would be jumping for JOY! Great Job, Mr. President and staff!!!!

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It’s a great day for all Americans! Great job Mr. President and Mrs. Speaker! Thank you for standing up for the health and well being of all US citizens!

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Guess what the first thing that Bush put in Iraq, well it was socialized medicine, that’s right you chumps, how come its good enough for them but not us. They just gave the retired CEO of Cigna 110 million dollars to walk, how many people were denied coverage to pay that piece of crap his 100 million. You stupid people.

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the hate, racist, filled commentary coming from georgians doesn’t suprise anyone, I’ve been here all my life, was born here, and it still amazes me that people are so blissfully ignorant. You people are all sterotypes of the ignorant, backward southerner you should be very proud of yourselves

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Commonsenseagitator – and you’re the kind of know-it-all hate filled yankee that should have stayed up north and made both of us happy. Delta is ready when you are!

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m915 you are an idiot. Of course us white folks are unhappy with the situation at hand, because you and the rest of the second handers are looking for hand outs. The gig is going to be up in November.

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Alice Powell,

I am ashamed of you. First of all, you say that you are forced to pay for minorities of this country who have always expected the government and everybody else to take care of them.

First of all, I am a minority and I have never expected the government to take care of me, nor has the government taken care of me. I have also worked hard and paid taxes. Most likely, I pay more taxes than you. My husband was in the U.S. Army for 26 years, and our family sacrifice a lot for this country. Also, we will be in the over $250,000 category in the health bill, so we will be taxed more. But, we also pay school tax with no children in school and other taxes that do not pertain to us.

Secondly, it is more Whites (Caucasians) in this country that receives government assistance than minorities. So while you are spouting off, try looking at the last census report, which will let you know your premise is totally wrong.

Thirdly, you say as God as my witness, well first of all God would never entertain your racial bigotry.

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Hiel Obama! He is our leader so lets blindly follow him.

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I am a doctor and can’t understand why so many people are against this bill. They must not understand what is really happening with for profit insurers and our current health care system, which eventually will collapse under it’s own dysfunctional weight. The US spends twice as much per capita on health care per capita as European countries and we are no healthier. Health care bills are the largest source of bankruptcies in the United States. Meanwhile, many people can’t get health insurance unless their employer offers it. I understand that some employers, such as Wal Mart in the past, didn’t provide meaningful health insurance to their employees, leaving the lower paid ones to sign up for medicaid (guess who pays for that). Many private businesses don’t offer health insurance at all. An unregulated free market health insurance system will not solve the health care problem, because insurance companies are looking for profits, not improved health care. Haven’t any one of the republicans so opposed to health care reform had any family members who couldn’t get insurance or had their coverage denied because of the pre existing condition gimmick? I’m sure this bill will have problems, but it’s the first step in reforming a system that will bankrupt the country if it’s allowed to continue in it’s present form.

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For those who think that Tricare and the VA are wonderful health care systems try being on the receiving end of the payments and the denials…go to a non VA hospital, not everyone has one close by, on what the VA considers non-emergent care guess who pays the patient or the taxpayers of the patient doesn’t pay…

And to Representative Lewis – health care is not a right it was a privilege – I have always worked hard to have insurance, I truly believe that this bill will leave me uninsured because I can’t afford the insurance the government is providing if my employer chosses to know longer cover us. But don’t worry the Congressmen will have all the coverage they need they just don’t want us to have it

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The ignorant comments by Georgia born and bred folks does not surprise me. Georgia was among the first to vote AGAINST women having the right to vote, and was tied with Tennessee as the LAST state to vote in favor of women having the right to vote! Georgia is still very much a part of the old Southern Confederacy with active Klan members. Georgia along with the other Southern “states rights first” states will always resent federal legislation that benefits all of the people, especially the poor and diverse. Guess the plantation owners are still among us…

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Hip! Hip! Hooray! The Democrats against the bill were only afraid of backlash at the polls. Some of the Republicans who voted against the bill did so ONLY because they want Obama to fail. Like my grand daddy used to say, “when you dig a ditch for me, you better dig two, cause the ditch you dug for me might be meant for you”.

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Freedom, as we know it, has died!

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Hictoric day, Any Group of people or political party that did not vote for this bill in my humble opinion is NON-AMERICAN……

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These comments are so funny! I love when “some people” run scared beause what they want they don’t get. GROW UP! Thanks President Obama and every Representative and Senator who voted FOR this bill.

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Conservatives and Republicans today suffered their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s.

It’s hard to exaggerate the magnitude of the disaster. Conservatives may cheer themselves that they’ll compensate for today’s expected vote with a big win in the November 2010 elections. But:

(1) It’s a good bet that conservatives are over-optimistic about November – by then the economy will have improved and the immediate goodies in the healthcare bill will be reaching key voting blocs.

(2) So what? Legislative majorities come and go. This healthcare bill is forever. A win in November is very poor compensation for this debacle now.

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When the president says “We proved that this government — a government of the people and by the people — still works for the people,” what “people” was he referring? He’s playing poker with “the peoples” money, and they are going to win in back in November.

This is a pathetic dispaly of our government.

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Welcome to the New Socialist States of Amerika! We all get what we want. Free housing, free retirement, free health care and free food. When do we get free cars and free tv’s?

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This one is over. Now, let’s get the Immigration Amnesty Bill rolling……it’ll help the voting-base for King Barack and his court come 2012 elections……………..that way, more people will get to utilize this wonderful care-for-all bill.

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David,

These people are reacting to the Republican Party lies. They do not realize that the only reason that the Republican Party did not want this bill to succeed was because they would lose because they had 8 years beforehand and did nothing. Also, race plays a big part in their feelings. If the President was White, they would think this bill is the best thing since slice bread.

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How interesting! There are 78 comments on the board and only 7 agree with healthcare reform. Wow, that tells us what the people really want.

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Walter S
you are so right!!!! I’m a Black American, not non-american! we are screwed and you know it! but it does not matter to you because you think health care is a right. Yeah, you have the right to get a job and provide for yourself, that’s a right but to take money from me to pay for somebody else is BS and you know it. We need jobs so that we can buy healthcare di you think about that? The people who are unemployed don’t give a sh*t about healthcare reform, they want jobs so they can pay for what they need not what obama wants to force down our throats. Why is he not trying to force jobs down our throats????? Simple you cant control a man who makes his own way and a man with a job is hard to control.

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12/7/1941
9/11/2001
3/21/2010

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Hopefully this will be overturned or further ‘reformed’ before it all kicks in …

REMEMBER, healthcare is NOT a RIGHT NOR a FUNCTION of our government. period. Get the government OUT of healthcare and watch the costs go down. Now the best doctors will retire early.
And the newer crop loses ambition. SHAME on these people who passed this, but I believe it will be overturned in the end. Hopefully the Senate will vote NO.

Race has NOTHING to do with this. Never has. Errant political ideology by an INCOMPETENT Presidunce DOES!

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This is not a racial thing, why make it so. This health care reform bill is just going to put this nation into great debt but people are too dumb to see that. Yes we need health care reform, no one is saying we don’t. But right now we need jobs more. Without people working and paying taxes, states and federal government will not be able to fund all these programs. Why can’t people see that. If this health care reform is so great, then all our elected officials should be on it but the Democrats said no way.

As far as Bush 1 and 2 doing everything to this country, you are so far off the mark it isn’t even funny. Exactly who do you think said they everyone should own a home regardless of whether or not they could pay for it and told mortgage companies to give them a loan. That was the Demcrats. Go back and check your facts. This one thing started the down fall in this country. People getting homes they couldn’t afford and couldn’t make the payments. Now the Democrats want to help all those that make up to $80,000 to help pay for their health insurance. Explain how they are going to do this. Sure wish we had made $80,000 while raising 4 children and had help paying for health insurance.

Nothing in this country is free unless you are illegal because they get everything free to begin with or you are too lazy to go out and try and find work and think you are entitled to entitlements.

Way to go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy what freedoms you have now because when China calls in our debt to them, you will become part of China and their rules. And when Mexico takes over the USA with all the illegals we are letting in and giving amensty too hope you will be satisfied.

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The one thing all of you who are/were for this bill don’t realize: Even though you are REQUIRED to purchase health insurance or be subject to fines and penalties it doesn’t mean your health care will be any different than it is now. All of us who have insurance know that if a doctor DOES NOT accept the type of insurance we have then we have to hunt for one who does. Many docs are now refusing to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. Is the government going to try to force doctors to accept your/their brand of insurance? It might try…but it will fail.

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m915, from your comments I would say that you are a non-worker, a smoker, a drinker (beer), and a generally uneducated person who has depended upon government resources (read, taxpayer money) your entire life. You are the perfect democrat and perfect socialist who thinks the rest of us rich folks owe you something. Tell me I’m wrong!
No working person who has sacrificed to buy health insurance for his family instead of smokes, beer and that Escalade would never be in favor of this legislation. And, you blame it all on the Bush Administration. The Congress, not the president, has control of the federal budget. In those eight Bush years the Congress was controlled by Dems. They oversaw Freddie and Fannie and the financial policy. Oh, you say? I didn’t know that! No, you didn’t. You only know what the Dems tell you. Now, they tell you Obamacare is good for the country. Yeah, right!

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Wondering how people make the jump from Republicans not wanting a socialistic health care bill passed beacuse of the race of the dumb ass in office. We didn’t want it when Cheatn’ Bill was in office and we don’t want it now. I believe Cheatn’ Bill was white.

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LMFAO!!! Yes, Yes, Yes!!! I kinda figured this blog would be a great place for Re-THUG-licans to gather and whine about how the bill passed without bipartisanship, Obamacare, Socialism, N***ers, and F***ots. Oh, my!!! (Again, more lies, but what else have we come to expect?). There are over 200 Re-THUG-lican amendments in the bill. Yet, the (R)’s voted against their own amendments in a political move to undermine this Presidency and try and position themselves for a return to power. Er…, hows that working out for ya?

I watched C-Span yesterday, ALL DAY, (especially since my brackets were blown to hell), and it was truly amazing. I really tried, and have tried, too understand the logic behind the (R) position. I cannot find any reform there that is significant. That is MY opinion. Tort Reform comprises 2 percent of total cost, however, the coverage of physicians for Medical Malpractice was through the roof. If you expand coverage, and made it available to more Americans, would that not reduce the amount of frivolous lawsuits?? The primary reasons that drive frivolous lawsuits are from greed, but also from a LACK OF ADEQUATE COVERAGE. Allowing folks to purchase over state lines, stop, WHAT EXACTLY WAS THAT GOING TO DO? There are a few states by virtue of its population could have lower premiums, so everyone was going to run those states only too purchase? Hmmmm….??

I applaud the House for getting this right and done. I think its profound for this country. I am sorry that the rhetoric in the run-up to the vote was so toxic. It served no one other than the special interests. Truly. The name calling of sitting congressmen and the racial and personal attacks on one another is and was reprehensible. The open threats by the Republican Party, its leaders, the special interests, the insurance lobby, Fox News, and others has nearly caused this country that I’ve defended in combat to be ripped apart. It became very clear that the “majority” of Americans who the above named claimed to represent, were under the impression that denying coverage for all somehow makes them more patriotic and American. I would seriously rethink that position. Most receive medicare, or have insurance under their employer. They just have not had a situation in which the insurance has NOT worked in their favor. And unfortunately, in the cases that have had coverage denied or cancelled, they are so blindly partisan and motivated by other issues (primarily racial), they would hold a position that clearly hurts them and others to prove an unwarranted point.

I am glad for and of this vote. If you think that your actions have set the tone for the mid terms this fall, bring it. The MAJORITY of Americans who voted in 2008 and put you in the wilderness are now reinvigorated. And there are more of us. The (R) party has been caught lying, time and again. And there are many former (R)’s running to the Democratic party. And we welcome them.

This is truly a great day in this country.

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I am just glad that giggling silly Pelosooooooooo just wrote her ticket!!!! She is a joke– again can anyone on here not see that they DO NOT have the same insurance as we will have forced on us..Why are they elected by us but get different rules????

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I’m amazed at the vitriol in these posts. I get the feeling not many of the posters can think for themselves — and simply parrot the extreme, polarizing rhetoric that’s become standard in the Limbaugh-Boortz era. Congrats to the House for getting something done. Congrats to the President for seeing it through. Thank goodness enough of our leaders finally refused to let “perfect” remain the enemy of the “good.”

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70% of the American population did not want this health care. I don’t know about the rest of America but I am real tired of paying for the lazy no goods and illegals in this country to sit on their butts! Welfare and bills like this need to be halted. I can’t afford designer clothes but the no goods living off my money can. Seems to me that something is twisted. Just because you live in the United States does not mean you have the right to the same things hard working (retired military personnel) do. I don’t believe in abortion but now I am paying for the slutts of the world to have one. They either need to practice safe sex or have it fixed. All you that voted for Obama I hope you are happy with your choice. My taxes have gone up and up. He pushed health care – what about education? What about jobs? What about the economy? Nothing has gotten better. In fact your president will not even participte in the Health care he pushed for. If it is not good enough for him, why should we be forced to use it?!

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GAmom.. WOW.. really??
Medicare Payroll tax on investment income — Starting in 2012, the Medicare Payroll Tax will be expanded to include unearned income. That will be a 3.8 percent tax on investment income for families making more than $250,000 per year ($200,000 for individuals).

Excise Tax — Beginning in 2018, insurance companies will pay a 40 percent excise tax on so-called “Cadillac” high-end insurance plans worth over $27,500 for families ($10,200 for individuals). Dental and vision plans are exempt and will not be counted in the total cost of a family’s plan.

Tanning Tax — 10 percent excise tax on indoor tanning services.

Just to name a few..

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The true cost of this bill has not been published. Congress played games with the numbers, such as cutting Medicare reimbursement in the bill but then restoring them elsewhere.

The CBO did not include tax increases at the state level to fund expansion of Medicaid. States are already reeling from lost revenue caused by the recession. Now they have a new budget item to fund.

For all the talk, the push was really to extend health insurance to 30 million people, less than 10% of the population, and most of those don’t want health insurance . . . unless it is free.

The cost of the mandates will cause premiums to increase dramatically. Half a dozen states already have their own version of Obamacare and premiums there are 2x – 3x higher than comparable plans in neighboring states.

Gradually, over the next few weeks and months the truth about this change will see the light of day and it won’t be pretty.

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I don’t know of anyone who wanted this healthcare plan but Obama, Pelosi and Reed!! But they won’t have the healthcare plan they want the American Public to have. I want their plan!! Come November we have the opportunity to send someone to Washington that listens to the American people that elected them!!!

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@ Truth – EXACTLY. Most of these folks never approved of Obama. His approval numbers dipped because his supporters WANTED this bill and saw it slipping away. But, now it’s done and “yes we can” is back!

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Whats it mean? I means higher taxes when the Bush taxes expire. It means even higher taxes for the healthcare program, (someone has to fund it), It means small business will be letting their people go and working it themselves (with a 60% tax on everything over 200K, thats your normal small business employer) and hes not going to pay it. Whats it mean, A federal sales tax, because we cant afford this, whats it mean, higher unemployment then we have already, whats it mean, it means that Americans have just been sold out.

Ever hear the old saying “BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR”? Well this is terrible. Also, where in the constitution does it give healthcare as a right. You have the freedom to get up every morning and work and get healthcare though a employer or purchase a plan. It does not give you the rights to demand services of others for free. Thats slavery of ones talents. The democrates just took this country and sold us out. You will find out very quickly that this will not work and when your daughter of 21 comes home with a breast cancer and the government will not allow her the treatment because its to much money, talk to the democrates in power. They wont care because they have their own healtcare plan and their own retirement plan and its NOT WHAT WE WILL GET. You democrates are all a bunch of suckers living off the dream. God help you.

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GAmom…My point is this bill does nothing but raises taxes.
But since your asking, when private insurance companies cost go up (due to compaines being forced to insure bad health risk, chronic disease states, etc.), who pays for that? You and I do. What happens when we can not afford to pay premiums any more? We are forced to get our insurance through the federally regulated co-ops and the “evil” private insurance companies will no longer be able to make a profit (oh how evil that a private company has the right to make a profit) and there is no incentive for them to stay in business. At this point, we will have no choice but to join the co-ops that, at that point, will be run by the federal government because private insurance companies will no longer be around. What do you call that? Socialized medicine.
This is a chess game, try to think three steps ahead of you opponent.

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Boogers in Your Soup,

LMAO. No…I will NOT shut my mouth. As a a matter of fact, you can kiss my a$$ while I am on that toilet.

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For those of us who worked so hard campaigning for this President to help him will a landslide victory, to now see come to fruition one of the things we’ve fought for is truly gratifying.

For those of you who have bought into the scare tactics of the opposition, I feel sorry. The truth will prevail.

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Come November, I expect Americans to vote where it counts and clean the house and senate of the corrupt government. Then I expect, no I demand that the new elected demand to see a copy of a US Birth Certificate for Obama. I just really dont think it exists. I have never ever seen a man HATE America and Americans as much as this man Obama does. Spending over 3 million to prevent a birth certificate tells me everything I need to know. IT DOES NOT EXIST. Time to prove it too. Take over the house and senate and demand proof. Then take the proper action when we find out he was born in Kenya and is not American Citizen.

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Wow! The Sun rose today. I drove to work like usual. Apparently, the Earth really didn’t end because healthcare reform passed….

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I said…GET BACK IN THAT TOILET!

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@Time for proof: You have got to be kidding?!?!?! There really is someone like you out in the world? LOL! Do you have a brain at all?

The State of HA honored so many requests for copies of his birth certificate that it was costing them all of their budget for 2009. They finally had to stop the “repeaters” – those are the people that were requesting it multiple times.

Grow up. Get over it. Move on.

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Let’s see how many of you used this if it so bad

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We are all sharecroppers now, and state governments are no more than tenant farmers. Our founders intended the federal government to be one of limited powers. Instead it is Leviathan.

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I’ve always realized how many truly ignorant, uneducated, and racist people lived in my home state of Georgia, and reading the unhappy comments here today only affirms that knowledge. Thank you, President Obama and Democrats for standing up and doing something, not because it was the best thing for the party, but because it was the right thing for our country, our people, and and children.

And Republicans, eat it and smile.

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I hope that mental health care for retards is also included in this package because based on the number of stupid comments on here most of you need to see a shrink.

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The truth to everything will unfold over the next few months and years. As a Democrat that voted for Obama, all I ask is….

Remember what has been said up to this point. Write them down if you must in order to remember. Remember how Hannity, O’Reily, and the rest of FOX news said how passing this bill would ruin America. How it will raise our taxes dramatically. How it will make America bankrupt. How it will drive doctors away from the profession. How you will not be able to select your doctor. How you will have to wait for years for any procedure. And, so on.

Remember this well. Because if these things DO NOT happen as they predicted, then you MUST call them liars. You MUST admit that the republican PR machine will do anything and everything to include scare tactics to get their way.

You MUST.

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Ah, Birfers. Always good for a laugh.

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One of the clauses in this crap thing requires businesses to pay for their employees & families healthcare. I along with many others are already on limited funds and this will put a whole lot of people out of business who can’t or won’t pay. You think unemployment is high now, wait untill these businesses start laying off or closing

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get names of everyone who voted for this and vote them out come november. especially the round head. betyter known as borack oslaba.

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Walter is right about the military getting universal health care. However, there are many – many doctors that will not accept that health care. I am retired and still use that health care. I have to search for doctors and that list is shrinking. Some of the doctors are less then quality doctors and some act like they really don’t want to treat you and that you are wasting their time by being in the office. I think that since Obama wanted this damn health care so bad he needs to participate in it. If it is good enough for us it should be good enough for him, after all you voted for him. Some of you on this post just don’t get it. The working middle class is going to pay for this bill. We are going to lose more money in taxes. We, the middle class, will soon be the poor. Then who is going to support this fine country we live in? You all need to wake up and smell the roses! Stop listening to everything Obama, the congress, and the senate tell you. Look behind the words. Make them READ the BILLS they are passing. For all the politicans that voted for this bill AGAINST are WILL vote them out of office. These people in Washington have been elected to represent us and they are not doing that. They need to get out of office and come back down to the real world to see what is going on. They need to bring jobs back from third world countries, they need to find a way to educate these children. The need to put an end to welfare handouts and stop giving free benefits to the illegals. So what if they come here to have a baby and then live off us for 20 years or more. That is your SS benefits they are living on. Many of us have served this country for our freedoms and our RIGHTS. There are many people that do not rate those same freedoms and rights. Health care, dental care, vision care, and many other things are not RIGHTS. If you want to EAT you MUST WORK! If you want HEALTHCARE you must be a US citizen and you MUST WORK!

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Look at the screaming from the conservatives. Cries of “socialism”, “communism”, and “nazism”. You guys crack me up. You don’t know what you’re talking about, but don’t let that get in the way of your anger!

As far the the bill goes, I’m disappointed that it doesn’t go far enough, isn’t progressive enough, but it’s a good step in the RIGHT direction.

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Ron Paul said it best the other day when he was commenting on the prospects of repealing the legislation. He said that the upcoming bankruptcy of the United States will repeal the legislation. Sad but true. He has been right about everthing else. No reason to doubt him now.

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Wow, such hate and bigotry and denial in these vents. As for the venter who said Get a job and buy your own insurance, I know lots of wonderful people who got laid off a year ago and are still trying to find work. Even with a job, many members of the middle class can’t afford insurance. Not all jobs provide benefits and if you all got your heads out of your butts and looked around and cared about your fellow human beings you would stop spewing hatred and do something to help your fellow people. Jesus would not appreciate your comments. I am not saying this new plan solves everything but at least it’s an attempt to help people. I hope you never lose your job or have a castastrophic illness that wipes you out financially and then no one will sell you insurance. I am praying for all of your souls.

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@ Howard – I’m a housewife so I work for the love of my job But, I’m finishing up my Master’s degree and will have a paying job that I love.

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Kruschev did not live to see his prediction come true but it has. The communists have taken over America.

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Democrats gave us social security, Democrats gave us medicaid, Democrats gave us civil rights laws, and now, Democrats have given us health insurance….all this while Republicans, by large majorities, voted no on this important changes in America…Would you repeal social security, would you repeal medicaid, would you repeal civil rights legislation…..and would you deny 32 million more Americans health care?

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Give me more free stuff as long as I don’t have to work and earn it myself!

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99% of the people making comments have not read the bill at all. I myself have not read the bill. We are going by what the media is presenting. We like to rant and rave but when the dust settles we go back to our daily routine of our boring lives. We griped about the war, now we don’t mention it at all. It is because we don’t care anymore about it, it’s not a hot topic anymore. People wake up and go on with your lives, there will always be controversy. But as long as we pay our bills and take vacations and raise our kids, everything in the end will always work it self out. America survive wars, racism,recession, depression and everything else. This health care bill is not the end of America. Wake up and get on with your lives.

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America is going bankrupt!

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The depths to which some people here sink is disheartening. The vast majority haven’t even read the bill. The vast majority have only heard the lies and scare sound-bites from FOX news, repubs, and the like.

Sad. Very sad.

Example:
@Idiocy 8:29 am
You claim that this Obama bill has gotten you fired because your company cannot afford your insurance? Wow! You mean that even though this bill isn’t even law (Obama hasn’t signed it) it magically caused you to be fired? Remarkable!

“IT IS HARD TO HAVE A BATTLE OF WITS WHEN YOUR OPPONENT IS UNARMED!”

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When did Republicans become champions of Medicare? They’ve been trying to kill it for DECADES. lol.

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Here’s a clue, folks….

Amercia was going bankrupt 9 years ago when Bush took office and took us to war. THAT was the beginning of our deficit. During his 8 years it only got worse.

Obama is attempting to turn this around.

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Do you all have any idea how much higher insurance premiums will have to go in order for the insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions? Get ready for “sticker” shock!!!!

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Welcome to the United States of Chicago!

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UNGER – Is there anyone monitoring this blog? Apparently not because “Boogers in Your Soup” has gotten out of hand!

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The HCare was fine as it was. Now the Dummycrats are making a huge mess of things with cost overruns, service cuts, service delays and tax increases butt are too STUPID to know it. To know they have just slit their own throats…

*YAWN*…ah yes…seems a 401K contribution increase is due to offset Obama his thugs theivery. Obama reminds me of the Katrina idiots stealing everything in sight like a group of rabid donkeys.

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Reality

March 22nd, 2010
8:43 am

Im out of order?

NO…YOUR OUT OF ORDER.
THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM IS OUT OF ORDER.

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This is so sad to me. The Republican Party is nothing but the new Ku Klux Klan. Nobody is willing to help another unless a war or some terrorist attack happens. I work for a major corporation and I have insurance. This does not affect me in any way unless I lose my job and then I will be thankful for it. This Bill is about helping those less fortunate where Black or White. There are poor Whites as well especially in the South. All those people sitting on hundreds of thousands of dollars and the recession didn’t hurt them are the ones crying about this Bill. All this debate is about is the rich getting richer and the poor staying behind. It’s about all these big corporations paying off people and making millions and billions of dollars and still half paying people. Most people who were complaining have insurance and would not be affected. The Republicans and Fox News need to realize that all the lies, mess starting, and trouble is not working. If you really want to make a change come to the table with something real other than lies and allegations and doing something for the PEOPLE of the United States!

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Obama has quadrupled (4x more) the federal spending over what it was under Bush — that is definitely not how you turn it around. The idea is LESS spending!

Obama’s theory of INCREASING spending to get out of debt is moronic!!!!!

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I’ll challenge anyone else that has actually READ the bill for themselves as I have – no useful opinions can be formed from merely listening to the drivel of others. It calls for individual responsibility – you must contribute whatever you can to your own health care, no more of the free rides that are already required by federal law in emergency rooms (thus the anticipated 1.2 TRILLION net deficit reduction). It seems that Obama has out-Republicaned the Republicans on this point – much like that budget surplus Clinton guy. For every sitting Congressman there were over three lobbyists spreading the lies and cash to defeat it – surely they were just looking out for the public, and sadly, the factually impaired bought it, hook line and Hannity. The US is among the worst in the western world in longevity, with costs roughly 3.5 times what those healthier nations have – pretty much a no-brainer …… well, apparently not. The truth is a stern taskmaster – the sky is not falling, and we have at last taken our first step into the 21st century.

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new holiday, ‘dependents day’ ratified late on a sunday night in a completely partisan vote…disgraceful.

a month ago it seemed laughable that any state would threaten to secede from the union…today it would be welcomed. come on GA, be the first.

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201ST…YES!

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To Alecia you are right but remember this is a red state. In other states that are blue the tone is much different.

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if Republicans had their way, the discussion on health care would be focused on different priorities…but that discussion wouldn’t happen for another 15 years. I’m glad SOMETHING happened. It’s not perfect (no bill ever is), but status quo is unacceptable and unsustainable.

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Reality

March 22nd, 2010
8:47 am

AHH HAHAHAHAAA!! LOSER, you a loser from loserville with a losing mom and a hamster for a dad…LOSER, lemme spell it for your L O S E R, got it LOSER.

BBUUWWWAAAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA! What would Jesus doo doo, huh, Loser tell me Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick, huh…is that what Jesus would do? Huh well is it LOSER…(__)_)////////////D <—there is your LOSER LUNCH now get to munchin…Ahh ahhahaa!!! LOSER Eat that loser lunch loser….*POOT* in ya face.

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Medicare has a track record of turning down claims at double the rate of private insurance companies. If the new government “healthcare” program is anything like medicare we are in big trouble!

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As a economics person, I can assure you that this bill will raise unemployment way over 15% if not higher and the people that are now in control of the government has no idea who those 250K people are. I do, they are you employer. Yes, they are the ones who will no longer be able to afford your paychecks and their taxes. Guess which one they will pay. No your wrong, it will be their taxes. Good luck find a job for all those unemployed people out there. The new jobs that the united states is creating are in China.

This bill goes against the general Joe, it goes against private business, and it closes down small business. We are heading into the biggest depression this country has every seen and its HOUSE MADE. You can and you will have Obama, Pelosi and Reid along with the rest of the democrates to thank for this. Healthcare with a huge tax burden. Get ready for your taxes to go though the ceiling and add a federal sales tax to your already high taxes you pay for their free spending and private jets. This is no longer the America my grandfather died for. I cry for America and AMERICANS TODAY.

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@ Paul – Great points! Lobbyists fought this tooth and nail because it will cut into the insurance companies’ profits. Not sure why people can’t see what is right in front of them.

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The Georgia vote was along racial lines, not party lines as the media is saying..

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Booger in your soup
may be out of hand and off the chain but he is on point in reference to the obama care. Jobs should be the focus and should have been from the begining, why is jobs not a major issue with barac odumba? Simple He needed the American people to be broke and desperate. Think about it, if the job market was doing what it should, reform would have not happen. The more unemployed you have the more needy and deoendent people become. Thats why he can give less of a damn about jobs. Working people can make their own decision unemployed can’t.
No disrespect to the unemployed, hell I have more compassion for a man who desire to earn a livng than a man who mooch for a living. If he “odumba” can give everybody health care he should give a job and house with it too. Dont forget the plasma 60inch and car on dubs………..I GOT RITES!!!!!!LOL! “F” odumba!

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Ummmm Rush Limbaugh, are you packing your bags? Send us a postcard when you get there, take care, and have a safe trip. Remember you said that if helath care reform passed you would pack your bags and move out of the country. Good luck in your future endeavors.

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Frustrated:
I agree with you, there! It certainly is time to get rid of the Republican weasels in Georgia who have brought our state to the brink of a financial abyss with their tax breaks to corporate fat cats.

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Walter-When the rest of the population sacrifices themselves at the same level of U.S. soldiers then they can be placed in the same category. Until then, it is fair to say that those earning VA benefits earned it. My grandfather was a WWII veteran(Army) and disabled, Dad a Vietnam Vet(Airforce), Brother Desert Storm Vet (Navy), and hubby Desert Storm (Marines) and disabled. This is the population that should be receiving VA benefits. It is insulting to say that someone that did not make the same sacrifices deserves the same benefits as someone that did. Eventhough my husband qualifies for VA benefits(service related disability), we have private insurance through his work. He does not use the VA, because he says that the private doctors are better. As you sip your Starbucks latte and blog about your liberal view, try to be thankful for those that gave you that right. And remember, if you are not a veteran or active military, you are not entitled to the same benefits.

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“Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. I thin myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.”–Thomas Jefferson

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This will end up just like the Georgia Lottery, the Republicans voted against it, kept trying to kill it after it went into effect. The Ga. Lottery has proven to be the best thing the polit. ever did for Georgia and this health care bill will be proven to be the best thing the Democrats ever did for the country. The GOP is truly the party of NO. Hope it is another 150 years before we have to endure another Rep. governor in this state.

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REAL TRUTH YOU ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!!! THANKS!

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So if I am reading this provision right, a family of four can have an income of $68K and qualify for Medicaid?

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Boogers:
Did you miss the bus to middle school this morning? Maybe your mom will take you to school or at least write you a note for being late.

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I’m thrilled, this will be the first time in my life I will be able to get health insurance on my own, not through an employer. That gives me more options on where and who I work for and I won’t have to worry about losing my coverage if I’m laid off.

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“This bill very well could have just killed any recovery because now every business will have to cut costs even more and hiring expenses went up so that will be the last thing on their mind.”

And there it is…WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Thats right dummycrats…Obama and your elected fartknockers just delivered the knock-out punch. Gonna be tough to afford that affordable HCare without a JOB, JOB yes I said JOB. Perhaps you can get a job cleaning hamster cages and afford then your OBAMACARE…GET BACK IN THAT TOILET!!!

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You do not have to be a slave anymore to bad employers just for ins.

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If the repubs would have worked WITH the dems on healthcare reform, it would have been passed a year ago, and the total congress would have been able to focus on jobs long ago.

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Lost
You are truly LOST!

william
You are the KKK! Bush has nothing to do with the F up odumba is doing! The only reason you all on his nuts is because he’s black and if it aint black it’s not right in your small book. Let that BS go and get your self together! You jsut want something for free because yo punk ass dont want to work for sh*t. Now my kids have got to pay for your implants and butt surgery all because its free to dont wanna work americans.

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I cannot wait for November elections. I want to kick out those idiots that voted “no” on this healthcare reform. They are short sighted and obviously don’t care about Americans at all.

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I am ashamed to be an American reading some of these comments. Many of the right wing that oppose this legislation profess to be Christian. Well Jesus said “Whatever you do for the least of these you do for me”. So is it ok that women and children die because they can’t get the healthcare they require? Do we just “reduce the surplus population” as Ebneezer Scrooge suggested. Has America become so hateful and cynical that we can’t offer some measure of comfort to those who are hurting? Slaves did not have any healthcare; are we devolving back to that type of society. How can we be so focused on killing our enemies and not saving our neighbor? Thats not Christian. Thats just wrong. Some Americans still believe the power of life and death is still in God’s hands. If this doesn’t work we can try something else. But please redirect your energy to something more constructive. Calling people something less than human is not constructive.

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It’s a very sad day for freedom in America. I’m amazed at how ignorant the people are of history and of economics. Huge layoffs will come as a result of this mandate, and States will push back because they DONT have the money to pay for their current obligations, much less the new ones from this bill. This is a socialist takeover, plain and simple. None of the supporters on here can name a place in the world where socialism has worked to the betterment of a nation or medical system for that matter, yet you praise Obama and the idiots in Congress for the new “entitlement” which is not paid for. Are you aware that the unfunded mandates of Social Security and Medicare alone now total $700,000 per household in America? That’s ALL HOUSEHOLDS, not rich people. Please people, educate yourselves on what this country is facing and question why the radicals in Washington are heaping new burdens onto the already broke system. Obama himself has said we can change this to be like Canada’s medical system. And we’re supposed to be happy about that? WAKE UP and learn.

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Obama is intent on bankrupting America. Thank goodness we can just print money and that won’t happen. Our govt can’t run the post office, social security, etc. so let’s go ahead and expand it in an enormous way that has never been this big. Just wait till the news comes out later on how much this program goes into financial disarray, cost over runs, inefficiency, govt waste, fraud, etc. This bill is huge, bloated behemoth intent on taxing the same people FOUR times to pay for it so Obama can buy votes and make lobbyist richer. This adds four new govt agencies and 15k new tax collectors. What a freaking joke this administration is. For one trillion dollars I could buy 400 million people healthcare not just the 15M in this bill. The worst president in American history and I thought George B was bad.

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Boogers:
My mother is fighting cancer right now and worried that her employer-provided insurance raising her deductible to $3,000 means she won’t be able to get the treatment she needs.
So forgive me, but I think she’s a little too busy to KISS IT.
I hope no one in your family ever has to deal with the reality of having a catastrophic disease and being worried about getting treatment.

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Any congressman or woman who voted for this plan will probably face strong opposition from their district. The american people spoke, but NO ONE WAS LISTENING TO WE THE PEOPLE! They were more interested in making history. This is going to get very ugly.
I am truly afraid that the radical left, who wishes to have a reprise of the tumultous 60’s, are going to get it. My biggest fear is that someone is going to seek their own justice against the people who they know did not care about their wishes.

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It is all true. Do you need me to tell you how many months she has been on Sutent, a drug that makes her sick and causes her hair to fall out while costing thousands of dollars. Do you want me to tell you that the kidney cancer that has spread to her lungs now is growing larger and she’s going to have to switch to an even more expensive drug that is part of a clinical trial? Do you want me to tell you that she has had a cough the entire winter? Do you need me to describe to you the sleepless nights she has because of her non-stop coughing?
Or do I have to post the results of her latest CT scan that shows the cancer?
If you don’t have anything intelligent to post to here then perhaps you should move on.

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I guess Obama’s main campaign pledge to bring the country together is working. I have never seen this country more split apart. Great work its been this way 3 months after he took office and getting worse by the day. A president who tears apart this country isn’t getting my vote of confidence.

My mother is happy tho since her auto union is excluded from the cadillac health care tax. Just commmon workers without union votes have to pay the tax.

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Has Rush Limbaugh borded the plane to leave the country yet? Is he going to lie like the rest of the Republicans aka The New Ku Klux Klan and stay here? That one big side of beef I would love to see leave.

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If your mad at Obama go to Iraq and live in Bushes WAR torn country I am sure Dick cheney can help you Facist start over again.

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I am so very proud to be an American now that this bill has passed. There was much bad publicity that the ignorant among us listened to completely without reason. The majority of reasonable, intelligent Americans were for the reform and are happy. Most of you that are commenting will not have to pay any additional taxes unless you make 200K a year or 250K per household. I worked for a major corporation for 25 years and do have health insurance that is really bad.,
Guess what? Any government employee is entitled to the same plans that Congress has, so if you want those benefits apply for a government job.
Just stay tuned and see how this bill works. I bet that some of the complainers will be the 1st in line for the new improved benefits.
It really makes me sad to see such anger and bad behavior by the ignorant opposition. But as the saying goes, “IGNORANCE IS BLISS.”

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“Let me get this straight……we passed a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn’t read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also is exempt from it and hasn’t read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s broke.

What the hell could possibly go wrong?”

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For it
You’re quite a “blissful” person, aren’t you?

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If you want to see the outlook for this country in 3 years just take a look at Africa, Haiti, Clayton Co, Dekalb Co and Fulton Co.. Broke, uneducated and one huge disaster!

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This bill is not perfect but it is better than doing nothing which is what Republicans did for the eight years that Bush was in office. This bill is a good start to moving us toward an improve healthcare system in America. This bill is not the end, it is the beginning of health care reform. The insurance industry no longer controls health care in America….the people do and that is change we can believe in.

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My entire family benefits from my health plan. I could be selfish but what about other families? I don’t care what they look like I just want them to live a healthy live, yes as God intended. This is neither a showstopper or panecea. But it is better than nothing

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Larry – Nancy Pelosi
Moe – Obama
Curly – Barney Franks

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The health care legislation laudably expands coverage but its costs, more than $900 billion, will put another nail in the coffin of the U.S. economy and open the door to a U.S. government-controlled health care system that gravely injures the sick along the way.

The problem is the absence of control of costs that already cripple U.S. global competitiveness. As a percentage of gross domestic product, the U.S. spends roughly 70 percent more on health care than other universal coverage nations, yet we cannot point to commensurate superiority in value.

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@For It. You are a fool if you think that only those who make over 200K will be taxed. EVERYONE will be hurting from the tax burden. Your employer passes taxes on to you in the form of demenished wages.
And why is it right for those who make more than 200K (through hard work, continued education, and sacrafice) to pay higher taxes, while others get a free ride?

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The guberment shouldnt mandate charity. Lets face it food stamps, medicade, public housing, social security and now a complete take over of health care is all charity. Charity shouldn’t be forced upon people to give. Let those who want to support it do so and those who do not don’t. I should not be forced to give up my hard earned money because some lazy bum doesn’t want to work but demands free healthcare. On the other hand I have no problem donating to someone when I can do it on my own free will. This government needs to be take back down to size.

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I feel like I was just given an enema. Thanks Mr. President & Ms. Pelosi. I’ve already started campaigning for womever runs for President in 2012! God help America.

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4 Jacks,
1) an end to the denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions;
2) an end to the denial of coverage for becoming sick;
3) young people graduating from college can be insured on their parents’ policy even if they can’t immediately find a job in post-Bush era economy.

If you had ever had a denial of coverage because of one of these insurance company ploys, you would understand.

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Its the end of the world as we know it………

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George Bush and the republican party ran this country into the ground in 8 years. the only thing that changed for me over the last eight years are my expenses going up and my income going down. On the other hand, all the major companies had huge profits and are still profiting from the war in IRAQ. Here we have a president that took drastic action to avoid the second great depression and is now trying to reform a healthcare system that is broken and will bankrupt the country. The reason why the Republicans don’t want it is because they are heavily financed by big businesses. If you can honestly say that the republicans are looking out for the best interest of the people then why are we the people in this big hole from the BUSH years? President Obama had to bail out the banks because we the people would be eating rats for dinner if some of those big institutions that employ us were to go under. The president has looked out for the common man since day one and continues to do so. Republicans are good at only two things. 1) Inciting fear and 2) lining the pockets of big institutions. We need balance in our system and the vote last night shows that democrats have that balance (some did vote against the bill) but republicans are single minded.

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Max:
I agree and I believe most do that we do need to reconstruct the health care of the country, but not this!!

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I work two jobs, paid all my way since I was 18 y/o. My wife works full time. My car is 16 years old and my wifes is 6. We have old furniture, live middle class as make it month to month. With child care costing a bunch each month, Shirley Franklin raising property taxes, water taxes, etc. now Obama taxing us three to four more times just to pay for me getting a govt doctor? what a joke and this one isnt funny. I cant afford anymore taxes. If I was making less I would get it all for free. What an incentive to work…

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The health insurance companies have only one mission: To take as much money from you as they can — and then work like demons to deny you whatever coverage and help they can should you get sick.

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Steven

Someone has been feeding you the wrong information. You are way off, but God Bless you my brother!

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howard @835 you can take all your government programs and wipe ya A$$ with them! Don’t use my name to post BS in favor of Gov’t.

gamom will you use your masters degree if so will it be for income and profit or for the love of your profession?

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If the government would have put this money for creating more jobs instead of this bogus health care system, people would have health care. That would just make more sense though, working for your health care and just working for yourself in general. Programs like these are the reason lazy Americans don’t get off their fat asses and do anything because everything is free for them. Looks like I should quit my job too? No thanks, I was taught that here in America, YOU work for what YOU get.
With that said who goes by our useless constitution anymore? Oh that right the REAL Americans do, the ones that have worked for everything they have.

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Can we please quit bringing up George Bush as the excuse for EVERYTHING.

No one democratic, independent, or republican was happy with him but dont forget Democrats controlled the house under Bush and Obama as a Senator. A lot of blame to go around past 4 prior years.

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Hussain made a comment last night that the people have spoken. Which people is he talking about? Every poll shows the people of this country say NO to thid idiotic bill. I will be 62 in April. I have always been proud and felt extremely fortunate to be a citizen of this great country. Now I am no longer a citizen. I am a subject. We no longer have a government of public servants but a ruling class.

The vast majority of the people do not want this legislation. It has been crammed down our throats in spite of the protests. I am sickened by the inept way our country is being run. The democrats, or should I say National Socialist Party, has done this to garner votes from those who have no stake in this nation. Next they will legalize the illegals and count on their votes. Our rights are being eroded and we are allowing it to happen. We need to turn all who voted for this out of office. Socialized medicine is a failure everywhere. Why do we want it here? We have a President who hates this country and is trying his best to destroy it.

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Hello SOCIALIST America——–GOODby to my Freedom of Choice..Free to Choose out the window…..

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Thank you Congress. I look forward to my increases in health insurance costs and decreases in coverage. I am a cancer survivor but the ‘new’ bill WILL NOT cover the new treatment I received that saved my life and has done so for others. The treatment program is considered too costly.It will only cover the costs of the standard treatment regimen. Which will save costs because when you die, the costs drop to zero. After all, our lives are only worth so much, according to Obama.

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Hate it. This is not about improving health care. It’s about control and income redistribution. Which is socialism which is what obama is. Less and less small business will hire with this hideous bill. So much for working on the economy and jobs. He does the opposite. I’ll be glad when this loser is gone.

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Pompano Jane
Right on!!!!

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My Dear Sanford Bishop, Hank Johnson, John Lewis and David Scott, I hope you are feverishly working on your resumes since you just signed your resignation with your vote on healthcare!

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To all of those hell-bent on thinking that the only people who will benefit from health care reform are sitting at home on their rears doing nothing and looking for a hand out … have you ever heard of the working poor?
Some people work hard all their lives and just don’t make enough money. Not everyone who works hard earns $200,000 a year and can afford a car and a house and all that goes with being in the middle class.
How much you earn (or don’t earn) doesn’t equate to how hard you work (or don’t work).

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oh and when he passes imigration reform and legazlizes the 40+ million illegal immigrants we will be paying for their insurance too! I can’t wait!

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John Lewis’s main votes come from all the people who are on govt aid in Atlanta already. They will vote strong for him because he keeps piling on the free govt handouts and claims all opposition on anything is racism.

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@Thank You: “Thank you for my free healthcare. I don’t like to work unless I am forced to. Healthcare costs a lot each month and now I get it for free.”

I hope you were joking because you might want to stay put with your job a little while longer. You will soon see that this “health care” plan will more so be making out population smaller.

@Rugger2 said: “Thank you Congress. I look forward to my increases in health insurance costs and decreases in coverage. I am a cancer survivor but the ‘new’ bill WILL NOT cover the new treatment I received that saved my life and has done so for others. The treatment program is considered too costly. It will only cover the costs of the standard treatment regimen. Which will save costs because when you die, the costs drop to zero. After all, our lives are only worth so much, according to Obama.”

If that isn’t population control…then what on earth is?!

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Waht percentage of the working poor, you speak of, are “working poor” because of “their choices” in life?

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American People please open your eyes, why are all the Republicans up in arms, do your research they are paid by the medical establishment, and they are not going to get their checks, if you are foolish enough to think this is a disaster but you did not think the same thing with the war, which you know know was a lie and was used to get the oil from Iraq, which they did not get, you are a fool, corruption is the middle name in government and you are stupid enough to waste your time being upset about a bill which should have pass long ago. Stop being mad at the President and go after your corrupt officials, they are the ones controlling your money and the taxes you are paying. Your Republican party says no more taxes all the while they give the state away to corporation, and now the cat is out of the bag, because of all the big give aways Georgia is now broke, and they cannot put the blame on anyone other than the people in office, your Republican leaders are full of corruptions and illegal deal making. Thank God for our President who did not let the corruption stop him for getting the votes he needed to help the middle class which the pass administration left out in the cold, sorry I am glad he’s helping families get healthcare, and maybe this new law will put the healcare system in check, and everyone must pay, I can see jobs being created instead of all the negative feedback people with healtcare is showing. Why not make your state government work for you instead of letting corrupting get the best of you, stop listening to negative radio and get involved with your goverment to change the rules, instead of complaining about the rules. You have young men and women coming out of this war without healtcare and you thing thats okay, it’s not and you should be ashame of yourself for being so mean and hateful, what have you done for your country lately instead of calling names, get involved and find out what you can do to make this bill work for you and your community. And that’s what Jesus would do!!!!!!!

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Again, by federal law, ANYONE can ALREADY stroll into ANY emergency room that receives Medicare/Medicaid money and be treated on the taxpayer dime. Under the plan just passed, all that can MUST contribute whatever they can. In my book having even the laziest kicking in something is better than the nothing they used to pay.

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I can’t quite figure out how this bill helps with the biggest problem the country is facing – a 9-10% unemployment rate.

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I think it’s great. The people spoke in November of 2008 and the majority party did what they were elected to do. Good luck at the polls, with only two Georgia democrats in Washington, even voting them out of office would not have changed the outcome.

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I suggest they use the other room at the post office for the govt health provider for doctor visits. The other room meaning the areas they closed down like passport office, boxes, etc. since the govt run postal service is hugely in debt. Why not combine these?

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This President will get my respect when he does something worthy of respect. Thus far I have more respect for a pole cat than I do this moron! And, FYI…him being half white and half black has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion! I don’t care if he was pink or purple, I don’t like Socialism!

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@gamon
it might not be her fault but it damn sure is not my fault nor my problem! I don’t mean that in a nasty way im just speaking truths.

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Alecia

March 22nd, 2010
7:28 am
How interesting! There are 78 comments on the board and only 7 agree with healthcare reform. Wow, that tells us what the people really want.

No Alecia, it only proves that you are in “Georgia”. Georgia, in no way, represent a poll of the “American people”. Now, had you said, “racist white people really want”, I would totally agree. You people’s bigotry is soooo deeply ingrained that, if God himself told you that this health care reform legislation was good for the American public, you would slander him. You are a sad person!

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I am a veteran and I can tell the govt healthcare sucks. Had a semi heart attack last year near a major hospital and they kicked me out the same day and I was really sick. I found out later from a doctor that if I had private healthcare I would have been in there 4 to 7 days. Oh well, now you all can share the fun!!!

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“I am a cancer survivor but the ‘new’ bill WILL NOT cover the new treatment I received that saved my life and has done so for others”

That statement is nonsense. It implies that the new bill will provide only minimal coverage. That is not true. The new bill requires that insurance offered complies with the federal government employee benefit standards. You may have wondered why the insurance companies were against a proposal that would mandate and subsidize coverage for health insurance. It would seem to be a windfall. However, they will have to provide comprehensive coverage under the bill. They cannot provide “bare bones” coverage and cannot cap expenditures.

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Oh – forgot this one. If you are a senior citizen and you break your hip — from now on, Uncle Sam will say – “sorry about that and here is a nice new wheelchair for you to use from now on” – - no more getting people back to as new as possible under this Obamacare crap that Congress approved yesterday, friends.

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First, we will respond to this at the polls.

Secondly, 32 million Americans WON’T be covered until 2014. Now, take into account that all small businesses with 50 employees making at least $50K will be made to offer healthcare, will probably limit salaries to be UNDER $50K and keep their employment UNDER 50 people. Where is the growth?
Consider that an additional 17 million people will be going under Medicare by the time the 32 million people in 2014 are getting their insurance. Now Medicare is being cut by $500 billion, it’s going to go up. Where is the money going to come from, YOUR TAXES.
This is a political ploy to take over insurance and make it big government. Now watch, Student loans are going to be controlled by the government, and now the Treasury Sec. wants to control ALL Banks. Getting the picture? Socialism at work for sure. November can’t come soon enough!

Oh and for the Rob Lopez thanks for your service in the military, but my father in law was 30 years military and just wait till you retire and need to get into the VA hospital for care. He was delayed 3 months for heart surgery and it about killed him.

This Congress is the WORST in history.

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@First Sergeant
So all people in GA are “racist white people”…wow, I’m glad you’re so pure and compassionate, with absolutely no bigotry in your heart. Thanks for reminding us of what a “bigot” sounds like.

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@ Jason – I’m seeing a lot of talk about “freedom” and my point is there are several state and national laws that affect our day-to-day life. Our government requires me to have a license, insurance and seatbelts just to drive down the street. So, why would requiring health insurance turn us into China?

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I was laid off in 2006 and have been working Temp jobs and very low paying retail. If I have not been able to afford health insurance in the past 4 years what makes them think I can now?
I don’t want to be one of those people living off the state.

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Had a friend that just had surgery last Friday and his doctor told him if this bill passed he would be retiring. Doctor told him that he probably wouldn’t be getting the surgery he had in the future and it will be mostly physician’s assistants doing the surgeries in the future or someone with those qualifications. I guess with Obozo in office we should just start ordering at McDonalds and telling the cashier to just give the bill to the guy behind us!

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GAmom
Your STATE requires you to have a license on a public road. If you don’t drive on that public road, no license is needed.
Where in the Constitution does the Imperial Government have the right to FORCE us to buy anything?

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Fraud, Waste, Inefficiencies of govt now just got expanded larger than the solar system.

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Atlantarama,

This is a ploy by the government to get control. Look at Medicare, Social Security, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. All government ran programs that are close to bankruptcy, or brought about one of the worst housing recessions in history. Talk about all of the profits with big oil and insurance all you want, but do you know oil companies get 7 cents on the gallon for gas, while the government, both state and federal get 40 cents? Let’s talk about the government giving over 100 million in bonuses to the head of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This Congress and this President are socialists. They want control over everything. They are mad the TARP money was paid back, now the Treasury Sec. wants the government to oversee ALL banks, and it’s starts today with the Senate passing a bill on top of Healthcare to disallow ANY bank from making student loans. Only the government will be allowed.
Unfortunately we live in a county of workers and leaches. The leaches won out in this case.

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Why is it that everytime someone disagrees with this socialistic president the race card is played. Oh, nevermind you folks have been doing that for years. Get over it. You have just as many if not more rights than I do. By the way, I am lilly White.

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This issue is no longer a health care issue – we have the workers on one side, and on the other side, we have the entitled. The workers are breaking their backs to provide for their family and secure their futures, while the entitled believe that simply because they live in the U.S., they DESERVE health care. Do I deserve a raise simply because I’ve been at my job X number of years? No – especially if I’m not producing anything for the company.

@Demspulleditout – my husband flew to DC on Saturday, with two days notice, to attend the health care rally. He said people were courteous and respectful, but when Lewis and Carson left the Cannon House, people did boo. (What were they expected to do, cheer and clap wildly?) My husband was floored when I told him about the reports that they were spat on and called derogatory names. He specifically walked around and didn’t stay in one spot so he could be aware of his surroundings in case a sensational story like this came out.

And what do you know? Today, video clips like this come out – where, at no point, do you see spitting or hear name-calling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SCs6pSE8_I&feature=player_embedded

I only wish I also could’ve been there on Saturday, because I would like Nancy Pelosi to know that being a woman is NOT a pre-existing condition, contrary to what she told Rachel Maddow. I’m pretty sure that my woman parts would be approved for insurance much faster than my husband, who is a cancer survivor.

And one last thing – if anyone states the statistic of the day, “X number are more likely to die without health insurance” – guess what? I have it on pretty good authority that 100% of people are going to die WITH health insurance.

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To Maisy – as a 15 year cancer survivor, I am finally FREE to start my own business. Before this bill passed, I had to work for somebody else due to my inability to get insurance with my pre-existing condition. When I lost my job, I depleted my savings and part of my retirement making the COBRA payments because any break in my coverage would allow insurance carriers to deny coverage for cancer when I got another policy. I believe there are plenty of people out there like me that have been kept from starting thier own businesses because they HAD TO HAVE insurance and the only way to get it was through a group plan. My view is that instead of killing innovation, new start-ups will thrive. Now that I am employed again, my tax dollars will go to keep you and me healthy. Our children won’t have to be in school with other children that are sick because of inadequate healthcare since germs don’t pick and choose by political affiliation. My 23 year old son can join my group policy and I won’t worry about him every day.

I am proud to have my hard work and taxes pay for healthcare. I just hope some of the money goes toward counteracting the fear mongering and provides information that is simple to understand and relate to our everyday lives. If you ever have the misfortune of fighting for your life, believe me when I say that you will understand the blessing of having insurance and not worrying about losing everything you spent your life building.

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What a wonderful achievement for our country! More citizens will have access to healthcare, the insurance giants won’t be able to play Russian Roulette with our health–hooray for democracy!

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What will really happen is that it will be cheaper for companies to pay the fines. Yes! your company may just drop your healthcare all together. HaHa I am laughing at you. I don’t have to worry about it!

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The country is made up of “Producers” and Moochers”. Which one do you qualify for?

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JP,
Obama is both Black and White remember? So he should have the greatest support of all the Presidents, right?

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Finally! There is no better way to control the public than to control their health and well-being. Now the Dems have REAL Power, and we’ll never lose another election.

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The really sad part about this is that many people actually think that the purpose of passing this bill is to help uninsured people. They bought the smoke screen. This was just a step for the Government to seize control of something that they had no control over before.

And to the people that think they will get free healthcare. You are blind. You will still Pay for healthcare and the IRS will see to it that you do. If you don’t buy healthcare the IRS will fine you or even imprison you.

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Didnt Massachusetts implement this same healhcare program and it now has massive cost overruns and new business in the state has dropped 16% since inacted?

It also ended up increasing company and individual taxes. Sounds like something I wouldnt want but guess I have no choice since Congress doesnt listen to the voters.

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they call it a histroic vote i call it a histerical vote.

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Jason, nearly all states receive grant money that is tied to them having seatbelt laws. The federal government definitely plays a role in those state laws. To your point about feds vs. state, we have equal opportunity and voting rights acts that apply to everyone. The federal government forced states to allow women to vote. It forced states to integrate public schools. It forced people to stop discriminating against the handicapped. I think there is legal precedent for the federal government to say that civil rights trump states’ rights.

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The only “RIGHT” we have is to pursue. If you don’t pursue, you should be LEFT OUT!

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Ok, if you live in the following states Georgia, Alabama or Mississippi or watch Fox news then yes you are totally against the bill. IF you live outside of the Deep South people wanted this legislation and/or regulation. Stop the madness – the following are some provisions that will take place if you can find something wrong with them then you have issues-
1. Give Seniors 250 to close the loophole left by Republicans for Prescriptions from the Drug Companies.
2.No one will be be dropped from Coverage because of pre existing conditions.
3. Everyone will have access to coverage.
4. If you have an existing plan you can keep it.
The actual bill is available on line please take the time to read the Bill. Stop listening to people and read for yourself.
Yesterday on the Beltway show the real reason why Democrats will be voted out is because of Jobs not Healthcare. Stop the Racial comments- this has less to do with race and more to do with the Rich being taxed and the Big Companies being brought to the spotlight for constantly F&**(* the American People over.
Millions wanted this bill. Remember there were only 30, 000 who showed up to protest in DC and most were from Rich Families, the Deep South and the new KKK(Teaparty).

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I have been a swing voter for years. No more. I will not vote for another Democratic candidate.

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Have any of you even read what passed? This reform is going to help the self employed and small businesses. It will give the “mom and pop” businesses better access to health care and make the corporate giants of this country accountable for providing for their employees INSTEAD of pawning them off on Medicaid for the rest of us to pay for. And there is no government-run plan. Only state-based purchasing pools or exchanges and policies overseen by the federal office that controls members of Congress’ plans. Which means that anyone can benefit from group rates even if they don’t work for a large corporation.

GOVERNMENT-RUN PLAN: No government-run insurance plan. People purchasing coverage through the new insurance exchanges would have the option of signing up for national plans overseen by the federal office that manages the health plans available to members of Congress. Those plans would be private, but one would have to be nonprofit.

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I would like a Republican to answer the following questions:
If you Government should be smaller then why are you in our bedrooms ie..
Abortion and Gay Marriage. Keep in Mind Abortion is a right for women to be able to choose according to Roe Vs Wade. IF you are really for less Government then be that way all the way around. Dont invoke God in this discussion I want an answer based on the priciples set forth by this party on less Governement.

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Dagny Taggart, you seem to suffer from the same limited scope of thought that your namesake did. Everything is not black or white (and I don’t mean in a skin color way). There are millions of shades of grey in between.

The workers “breaking their backs” are precisely the ones this bill will help. Because most of the people doing the “back-breaking” type work are the working poor who can’t afford health care.

And, just because your husband did not see the name calling and spitting first hand does not mean that it did not occur.

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sports salaries or sky rocketing out of control something must be done.i know, force every household to buy season tickets that’ll fix it.

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bmdpd – I would like to know how? You cant argue with this statement. I travel for a living and do more research than you can imagine. Its based off of facts not a guessing game. When is the last time you traveled to NY,LA or the Mid-west. Travel and maybe your mind will be freed from all of the BS

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I am laughing my head off….most people on here complaining don’t even know what they are complaining about…..I bet the people on here can even give details of the Bill that “PASSED”…..boy I tell ya…these “Tea Partyers” “Fox News” and “Republicans” aka “The New Ku Klux Klan” will have to come up with some other tactics because this is just not working for you……..sorry

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When in doubt, name-call – yeah, that’ll convince people! Again, has ANYONE actually READ the bill?

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Rich,

You need to go to the government koolaid party next week. You would get a seat, front and center.

BTW, you won’t need to worry about the banks, insurance companies etc…for long, because it will all be a monopoly under the government. There will be NO competition because their won’t be any private sector. Enjoy your Karl Marx type of government, because that is what you are going to get.

If, you raise people’s taxes on those making over $250K, what will happen, they will quit earning above that mark. If you are a small business, you will make sure you don’t have ANYONE making over $50K and will keep your company UNDER 50 so you won’t have to offer insurance. If you raise the Capital gains tax to 20%, people will quit investing. Are you so blind you cannot see what is happening? I guess you are in the moochers category, so you don’t care.

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Amazing, Go back and hang on the corner with your pants down to your knees, rapping with your hat turned side ways. Oh, and keep that hand out!

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replying to Rich— Here is justs part of the bille read it and weap.. You might want to read the full context of the bill. Ignorant i am not disgusted with people who seem to think that the government has tot ake care of everyone. I have been out of workk for over a year and jobs are very slim and i am a college graduate. I have no time for ignornance from people that just say give me.. Try living a year with no federal assistance, no unemployment. I take nothing from this country.

NOW PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING Hc LEGISLATION AND TELL ME IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT FOR EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD in America….. •Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure! • Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed! • Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process) • Page 42: The “Health Choices Commissioner” will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None. • Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services. • Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Health card. • Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer. • Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (SEIU, UAW and ACORN) • Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange. • Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans) • Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens • Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan. • Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter. • Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No “judicial review” is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed. • Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families. • Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages. • Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives. • Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll • Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income. • Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them.

There is not anything that I said that is inaccurate or a lie unlike the liberals and of course the biggest liar in the White House.

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I urge everyone to get your news and information from different sources, not just one liberal source and not just one conservative source. Learn for yourself what is really in the bill and how it may affect your life by doing some research. There are good sources out there for information, but don’t trust just one!
Some of you obviously have done this and are able to make intelligent and thoughtful arguments against the bill and for the bill. But, there are others on BOTH sides who are just spewing rhetoric. This isn’t helpful to anyone.

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All Republicans = hateful racists
All Democrats = lazy, good for nothing, have nots who want something for nothing.

Am I right? Is this correct?

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Lynn,

I don’t want to pay for your abortion, period. You get knocked up, pay for it yourself. You can’t afford a condom for your man, then pay for the abortion, but don’t pass it off to me.

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They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. – Thomas Jefferson

Vote out all who had a hand in this fraud.

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I was wondering if anyone else realized that your President has done nothing about the jobs or education of our youth. He has campaigned for 2 years for health care. His wife plays with fat kids. He is spennding my money like I have a never ending supply of it to give him and those on welfare plus the illegals and other foreigners living here with no jobs or income. He bullied and strong armed many to vote his way. He has lied time after time. Has anyone since a positive change since he became president? I haven’t! I have seen a great deal of job loss. Look at Georgia, we have the HIGHEST unemployment in the Nation. We have one of the HIGHEST Foreclosure ratings in the Nation. And there is currently a prediction of another 7 million homes going into foreclosure in the next three years!!! That only means that there is going to be more major job losses. What is being done to bring jobs back to the US? What is being done to educate the children in K to 12 and higher? Not a D**** thing! What is being done to educate the babies having babies? Nothing. It is time for a major overhall in our politicians that are suppose to be representing us. It is time to get house wives and hardworking middle class people up to Washington that know the reality of economy. Time to Kiss Obama and crew good bye. Time to get the 60, 70 & 80 year olds out of Washington! You should not be allowed to sit up there collecting my money for 20, 30, 40 years and beyond. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! If you want to remain free, the freedom our military gave their lives for, you need to WAKE UP!!!!

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Gay rights now

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Fox News and Republicans = The New Ku Klux Klan

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The government has done such a great job running medicare, social security, and the post office into Bankruptcy and red ink. Why should we expect better with a health care program to be ran by incompetent people!!!!

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It does not matter that some of the GA congressman voted NO on the health care bill if they was so against the bill why did’nt they offer us the free of cost plan that they and their families have that we the taxpayers are paying for now some of you who did not know this speak on this comment

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Anne J….i like that

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BR549: No doctor nor any educated person in medicine whatsoever would support that a fetus is a human life. Otherwise, it is a glob of cells dividing.

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As a 100 percent service connected disabled war veteran who served during two wars, I am deeply concerned about the government take over of health care. I have watched the VA health care system (especially in Georgia)slowly decline over the years…especially for rural service connected disabled veterans like myself who can no longer travel to the far off VA facilities to access health care. Many of us (myself included) have had to purchase expensive supplements to go along with Medicare simply to obtain the health care we were promised by Congress and the VA refuses to provide. Now Medicare had been cut drastically for seniors. Do I trust my government anymore? No I don’t! They continually fail to keep their peromises…except to those who finance their campaigns. I believe this health care fiasco will turn out to be extremely damaging to both present and future generations. This ias not the country I grew up in!

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Do we now provide everyone with a car. It must be their right. Let the Nanny State spread the wealth. Look at China and Russia. They have got out of public housing and poorly ran governement companies and are now world leaders!!! We care in debt to them to the extent they own us.

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No one has addressed this question…

Why SHOULDN’T the American people enjoy the same healthcare benefits as our representation in Congress?

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Seems to me as history dictates, alot of you that are crying about the bills passing will the the 1st ones to benefit from it. so chill out, as for our founding farthers turning over in their graves….Remember they created a system that only benifited white males, not everyone, especially women.

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And you would not have a name like Pantsdown..LOL

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I like Men.

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Pantsdown…that name sounds GAY to me …LOL.
I am off this site..I have laughed enough for today.

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MSNBC & Democrats = The New Hitler and Communist party

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Life’s short, have fun. Be Gay.

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All you right-wing, teabagging loonies are hilarious. So let me get this straight– we didn’t need to reform our health care system? Having 46 million uninsured, who we end up paying for anyway when they go to the emergency room, is a good thing?
Every time I think you neocons can’t get any stupider, you prove me wrong.
Truly amazing.

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GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY HOORAY

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GAY

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GAY REPUBLICANS ARE SILLY

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I strongly encourage EVERY American (who is able to read) to Yahoo search the following:

Ron Paul Twila Brase Blame the HMOs

You find a speech from the 2001 Congressional Record that provides a short but detailed history DOCUMENTING how the health-care industry in this country was PURPOSELY & DELIBERATELY DESTROYED by Congress.

After reading that 2001 speech made by Congressman Ron Paul, M.D. of Texas, you will ONCE AND FOR ALL clearly see EXACTLY HOW the American heathcare was destroyed, and WHY the current version of “healthcare reform” will COMPLETELY DESTROY the last remaining vestiges of free-market health care.

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Didn’t yall make a big fuss over Michelle Obama’s proud comment? Many conservatives said they have NEVER and will NEVER lose pride in America. But, now Limbaugh is moving (yay!!) and yall are hating. Funny!!

Obama = America
Democrats = America
Minorities = America
Poor people = America

Go America!!

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Ray,

I bet you still live at home with mommy cause your too much of a loser to go our and support yourself. Your also too damn stupid to know better..get your facts straight before shooting your ignorant liberal mouth off…..Its time to go out and get a job to support yourself rather then expecting me and the other productive members of society to take care of your lazy ass LOSER.

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I am a Republican, did not vote for Obama……but like the lady said—
IF you are ever sick and have to go through the stress of worrying about HOW you are going to live and make it, this is GOD SENT……PLUS I had to fight BCBS for every little thing I had done……and the doctors did not get paid a 4th of what they charged…..so there will be no changes for the doctors pay. I am a widow and do not want anything free…..I work…..my insurance premium is 1020.00 a month…tell me how I am suppose to keep paying that…….sorry guys but some of you just do not get it……

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Gail, your situation is why we need Health care reform. NOT government take over. So now you want all of us to pay for your health care? YOU do not get it.

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All socialism involves slavery and we are the slaves.

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Some brainiac thought they knew the definition of socialism, which is where we are headed with Obamacare……….here’s your definition!

Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or GOVERNMENTAL OWNERSHIP and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is NO PRIVATE PROPERTY b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE STATE
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

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We just joined the European Union. Why work for something, when you can leach off of someone else that has it…No sense of trying to achieve.

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It is funny that the “will of the people” is always “will” of the conservative party. The conservative party, teabaggers, birthers and all of these other nosiy rabble rousers do not speak for me or any one I know. There have been 450 repliess to this topic and most have been negative toward the bill. All these threats of Democrats losing their seats in congress are coming from folks who are not democrats to start with. Get a grip. Rather than complain about the Democrats passing a bill why not blast the “Party of No” for not presenting a bill that would be acceptable by everyone. You know why because it is not that you do not want healthcare reform but it is “WHO” that is presenting this reform. Most of you guys don’t want healthcare reform because someone told you we do not need it. Thats your only objection. Well last time I checked in order for democrats to be voted out of office a republican or independent in that district must win the seat. Republicans would already be in those seats if were possible so get a grip and stop complaining and start working toward making this work because it is not going anywhere.

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Lamar, you are right. It is about us (PEOPLE) doing that. Not the government doing it for us and basically “choosing” the charity for us.

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bmdpd
I am also Retired Military. The polls as we both know are a sample of the population. YOu need to wake up. Im from the Northeast and no MAss. has never been the most liberal state. If you notice Brown was elected and sent to Washington and thus far this was the first bill he stayed true to the party. To tell you the truth I cant stand either party, I just wish we would debate the real facts and not emotional BS conjured by the right or left wing press. As a former Military member we can both think of good and bad from the VA medicine. However, there is not a public option in the bill it just improves the crooked system. Some of the provisions I dont agree with but the Republicans never came up with a real bill all they did was scream about how they hated it. So again this is what we have as a result of the little boy who cried wolf.

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What?

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This egregious bill should have been thrown in the trashed and burned!!!! John Lewis will pay for his total disregard of the voters wishes and the economic impact on us all — taxes will be increased on everyone, access and quality of healthcare will decline, doctors will reject patience and it will add more than $1 Trillion to our deficit. Obama, Lewis, Pelois and Reid are turning us into the United Socialist States of America.

This bill is unconstitutional and packed with pork. Washington DC is now the most corrupt, irresponsible, self-serving center of government – just remember that in November: RE-ELECT NO ONE, TIME FOR TERM LIMITS!!!!!!

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If your health insurance cost $1020/month for Single/Female coverage,
then YOU have not shopped around for a more cost effective health.

Your comment: “so there will be no changes for the doctors pay.” Think so?
Go ask your current Primary Care Physician about the upcoming
21% decrease in reimbursements for Doctors that WILL occur on July 1, 2010

Your comment: “I am a widow and do not want anything free.”
What YOU ARE asking for (and is being promised in this bill)
is FREE HEALTHCARE paid for by the Government.

Dont think so? Then you obviously have NOT READ the bill.

Go ahead. Call your Primary Care physician today.

Just ask him/her about your ability to see them for care.

Just ask him how many Weeks or Months you will soon HAVE TO WAIT to see them for care.

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@Rsclinks – you are absolutely right on one thing. Just because my husband didn’t see it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. However, the actions of one, two, or even ten bigoted people shouldn’t be representative of the movement that happened that day. The spitting/name-calling has been reported, which means it probably did happen – but why weren’t these people charged with harrassment? People on both sides of the debate should be respected – could it be possible that these harrassers were plants? Let’s not discuss if they were or were not – just is it possible that they could have been plants? And who knows? Maybe they were terrible people.

I also realize that things are never black and white. I’m not against health care reform – I think that it’s desperately needed. What I pay in health care costs per month is astronomical, and I made the choice to pay more each more per month for a “Cadillac” plan. I am not wealthy – in fact, at many times I’ve considered getting a second job to help pay the necessary bills. However, I feel it’s important to have this extra coverage, and I voluntarily pay for the buy-up plan. I’m going to be taxed for my coverage under this new plan – and if the taxes are too high, I’m probably going to have to drop the extra coverage (or get that second job bartending on the weekends).

The working poor will get health care – but at what cost? We should be working on reform that makes it possible for this group to receive affordable, quality health care – the same quality that those of us who are lucky to have insurance coverage have been receiving for years. Instead, we are opening a door that could lower our quality of health care. Doctors deserve every penny they are paid – after all those years of medical school, internships and residency, they deserve to be. Already, doctors and pharmacies are dropping Medicare patients like flies because they can’t afford to treat them. Why? Because the cost of Medicare reimbursement is not even breaking even with the discounted cost of treating the patients.

There are so many other solutions that should have been considered in this bill. Tort reform. Coverage that is not tied to an employer. Medicare/Medicaid audits and testing (I know it’s in the bill – but this should have happened years ago).

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Its seems to me that no one had a solution to the problem. People were loosing their homes trying to pay medical bills. It cost more to get sick than it does to own a home. ISN’T STRANGE THAT IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO GET HEALTH CARE. For those of you who feel that Obama is a socialist think of this. They said the same thing about FDR and the same thing about Eisenhower and the same thing about LBJ. Time has proven that they were correct. Quit looking at color and use common sense.

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Who the hell is looking at Obamas color? He is BLACK and WHITE! I could give a damn if he was purple(my favorite color), I still wouldn’t like him.

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The U.S. does need to address the issue of American’s that have no health care – many of whom work everyday. But this bill was not the way to do it. This was something passed just so the President could say “see I did it”. If we are going to have a national healt care – then ALL government employees should be required to use this as the ONLY policy offered by their employer. If they want to buy private insurance they can do so. Let’s make this mandatory if this health care bill is to become law and prehaps we’ll have a snowball’s chance in the firepit to get something substantial and decent out of it. Otherwise, we the people have once again been s……over by our government. This should not be a Republican/Democrat “thing’ this is about all of US.

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Tony,
Why NOW God have mercy on America? From the beginning God has had mercy on America.When you take people land, kill them, enslave them, degrade them, make laws to justify your wrong, put your feet on the necks of the poor for hundreds of years and you now you want to sing “God have on America.” God has had mercy on America. It’s amazing when people talk about God, but don’t know Him. Do you know the story of the Good Samaritan? Did you know Jesus said, “…the poor you will ALWAYS have…” Do you know God said,”do good when it is in your power to do i.” If you so called “right winged” were really who you say you were; this system (world) would be a lot different than what it is. Oh, by the way, God is not a democrat nor republican and He does not favor one man over another. Please stop using His name if you are not following His Word!

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Dog, it is strange that the greatest country on earth has so many people buying more house than they can afford.

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For all the people afraid of THE “SOCIALISM” (Gasp!): You may hereby divorce yourselves from the following: The Interstate System, E911, Fire Department, Police Department, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, Ambulance Service, Water/Sewage treatment, Electricity, Phone Service & the Internet. Since these things are SO bad and evil I’m sure you won’t miss them in your daily life. Have fun out there!

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You people who are for this bill have no idea what’s even in it. You are in for a rude awakening……

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alot of you on this vent cant think outside the box. you talk about debt when clinton left office the us had a surplus of money when bush left we was in big trouble, damn if you at the top and not watching the money leave hands you are as sgtupid as you can get. i am a veteran and have great healthcare, but its not about me its about the elderly people who i see that cant afford their medicine and have to figure out do i get my medicine or get my groceries to eat. the problem with some of you people are you are not true americans, where was all this talk when bush was failing the country and it was not even talked about by his cabinet about health insurance. you people sat back on your a… and said nothing. well now you can talk all the scare tactics you want the time has come and another thing the polls will show in a few weeks or months how his approval rating rise again. its time now for you republicans to pay your fair share of taxes, and stop counting on me to pay them for you. hell if dont want to be true and worry about your fellow countryman get out of the us we dont need you anymore yall selfrightous moroons. i went to war for your freedom and now you get made because my mother needs health insurance how dare you. all is left is not lost but gained.

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Crybaby right wingers……
You lied on the President and you LOST!
Your teabaggers are racists (ask John Lewis)
You are LEMMINGS who can’t think for yourselves!
You parrott mis-information from the ilks of Hannity, Limbaigh and Faux news. The polls said just as many people were for it as were against it, but you want us to believe 90% of Americans were against it. To quote on of your rude “heros” … YOU LIE!
If we would have waited on Republicans for reform, WE STILL WOULD BE WAITING because all your Repub presidents didn’t tackle it and you fought Clinton on his attempt. Well, Obama stuffed it down your throats!
You right wingers care nothing for working families. You only care about big business and lobbyests stuffing money in your pockets!

BTW — don’t cry “back door deals” or “a fair vote’ …. I remember both the Contract with America AND the Bush tax cuts; things you worship; were passed by RECONCILIATION!
Game over —- take your ball and go home!

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I strongly encourage EVERY American (who is able to read) to Yahoo search the following:

Ron Paul Twila Brase Blame the HMOs

You find a speech from the 2001 Congressional Record that provides a short but detailed history DOCUMENTING how the health-care industry in this country was PURPOSELY & DELIBERATELY DESTROYED by Congress.

After reading that 2001 speech made by Congressman Ron Paul, M.D. of Texas, you will ONCE AND FOR ALL clearly see EXACTLY HOW the American heathcare was destroyed, and WHY the current version of “healthcare reform” will COMPLETELY DESTROY the last remaining vestiges of free-market health care.

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Linda

March 22nd, 2010
8:27 am

“The working middle class is going to pay for this bill. We are going to lose more money in taxes. We, the middle class, will soon be the poor. Then who is going to support this fine country we live in?”

Sorry to break the news Linda, but the middle class are already “now poor”, thanks to the last administration and it’s policies. And to think, you sat around and let this happen. Now, suddenly, you feel the need to speak out against our federal government? Where were you the during the last administration? In a comma?

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Americans will vote the Yes We Can people out in November. I just cannot believe the gall of our “representatives”. The lot we have in Congress was the lot who got us into this economics mess with their stimulus. I hope we do not lose too many jobs. There will be hope though. The next Congress will repeal the bill.

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@ Guy – I tried but it’s stuck in moderation! Politifact and Factcheck.com have reviewed and debunked it.

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First Sergeant, how many “poor” middle class have brand new large screen TV’s and new cars. You are full of it. We choose to spend our money on luxury items vice necessary items. We choose buy now pay later. It is all about choice. Choose to buy medical insurance or choose to save for a rainy day instead of relying on Uncle Sam!!!!

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So, some idiot earlier on in these comments made the statement that “We’re so far behind in healthcare…”. That’s the ignorance that defines this legislature. We have some of the best healthcare in the world, so much so, other people with money from socialist countries come here for healthcare.

Those of you out of work, well, this won’t fix that.

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Yes indeed it is a sad day in America. When the fortunate are so selfish that its showing so clearly that you care nothing about the fellow men, women and children that don’t have your advantage in life.

Yes, it is indeed sad that a whole party of Republicans voted 100% no which tells me they operate as a “Gang” and individual representatives who cannot speak for their districts. I cannot not believe that just one, just one Republican does not have people in their district that needs this plan the same as the Democrats. They would rather vote the party line than to apply something that could help people. Yes, it is historical and will go down in history as a very big deal in the future.
Don’t be too certain that the people in trouble in the elections will not be the republicans that left their people out in the cold. I think that no matter what President Obama does the Republicans will fight him the same way they did Clinton and Carter. They are evil, just evil.

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Many of you have said “This president is providing health care for more Americans”: Yea – the president will be extorting money from me (who has EARNED it) to GIVE to those that WON’T do a darn thing to EARN it, but will have more (or is that moe) babies, drop out of school and become thugs and hoes – YEA – now that sounds more like the American Dream – live like you want to, take NO personal responsibility and allow OTHERS (Like me) pay for your sorry a** and your kids. WAY TO GO MR. President – you continue to increase the poverty cycle and (like a good drug lord) keep people beholden to the GovMent. What a freak’n VICTORY for the American People.

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All I can say is thank god. Today is a great day for America. THIS is why I voted for Barack Obama and why I support the current Democratic leadership. It’s taken 50 years to find a president with not only enough enough moral fiber to recognize that health care is a fundamental right but enough political will to actually implement it. I thank Jesus every day for Mr. Obama.

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Pamela, heck they had trouble getting enough Dems to pass the bill.

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When is Rush leaving the country??? Can’t wait!

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This was never “for the people”. This was an agenda, pure and simple. Thank you to all of you Obama voters. Let’s see how you like the change that you’ve spurred.

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DON’T TREAD ON ME

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Oh they had the votes. On C-SPAN I watched the voting machines and all of the Democrats that voted NAY did so after the 216 was accomplished. That shows me that there was no way they would have let it fail.

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@Anne J, you have a great point there. Lets take it one step further. Do you know that all Senators, Congressmen(and women), state reps and pretty much anyone on capital hill has their own little medical center, where they pay $500.00 per year and get all the ammenities of a top of the line HMO than a single person who will pay up to $3000 per year and $4-6000.00 per year in rationalized healthcare. In other words, whats good for capital hill is not what they want you to have.

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I will work hard to get rid of those that voted for this horrific bill. Reform was needed, but not this massive takeover and this Frankenstein monster of a bill. Obama is all for re-distribution of wealth–pretty soon there won’t be any wealth in this country to re-distribute. Are we all going to live in third world conditions in future? Most likely.

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Many of you have said “This president is providing health care for more Americans”: Yea – the president will be extorting money from me (who has EARNED it) to GIVE to those that WON’T do a darn thing to EARN it, but will have more (or is that moe) babies, drop out of school and become thugs and hoes – YEA – now that sounds more like the American Dream – live like you want to, take NO personal responsibility and allow OTHERS (Like me) pay for your sorry a** and your kids. WAY TO GO MR. President – you continue to increase the poverty cycle and (like a good drug lord) keep people beholden to the GovMent. What a freak’n VICTORY for the American People.

You are a fool. You better pray that neither you or your wife wake up one morning to a cancer diagnosis and an insurance policy that doesn’t fully cover the extensive treatment you will have to receive. I have seen it happen too many times to middle class Americans who had NO coverage or were under-covered or were dropped by their insurance company after they got sick.

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Sorry the $4-6000 per year is for a married couple or a fam of 4.

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It is always refreshing to see left wing Dems support their ideas but saying we are crying the sky is falling. If Rush said he would leave the country he will, along with every other American that has a substantial amount of money. They are not going to pay for this mess. And they are smart. Anyone who is American and against the bill should just keep fighting for the cause. This is not over by any means and Obama has ticked off a lot of Americans, more than they can begin to comprehend Illegals get the healtcare as well except they don’t have tp pay. Just like they get welfare and WIC.
What a bunch of hypocrits. Again this is cause unemployment to rise, many additional layoffs and the further crippling of our country. We are in a Depression not a recssion as they would like us to belive.There are far more people that are unemployed than they will ever disclose. In reality if they really cared about Americans why are they not doing something about the foreclosures and making people homeless. Some of you need to grip on reality. As you post you all seem smug that you have security, think again because in one day it could all be gone.. There are people facing losing their homes, life savings etc and this idiot wants healtcare. Obama has lied over and over again, his relief for homeowners, has a salary cap on it for refinancing, the new rules just threw in people who filed bankruptcy can not get help. There have been no new jobs created, natural gas and gasoline is through the roof, electrcity has doubled since he signed the new Energy bill. Every step this man has taken has been to destroy this country. You libs and Dems can coddle him all you like but the facts are clear he is not black so no race card here. He definitely is not educated because he refuses to get help from individuals that truly know economics and how to fix this. Wages will never be the same as they were before this mess, never happen.
You can not blame Bush, this mess started during the Clinton Administration and then happened to bust while Bush was in office. How about personal responsibility isn’t that what we were taught when we were growing up. Greed, unadulterated greed has led us to this path, people who had no business buying houses they could not afford, inflation on the rise. How do some of you people sleep at night?

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Wow! HCB passes the House on Sunday. I woke up this morning and the wrath of God had not been brought down on this Earth.

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where were all of you people when the government made it a requirement for us to have car insurance when we purchase a car and house insurance when we purchase a home. Oh yeah, those requirements protect the financial institutions. What kind of sense does it make to ensure we are exposing more people to preventive care thus saving the high cost of bad living. This is a win/win, a lot of people will have to stop buying their alcohol, tobacco, weed, and illegal RX drugs to pay for their required health insurance. Poetic Justice.

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