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		<title>By: J'air</title>
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		<dc:creator>J'air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived in several large cities across the US, and Atlanta (especially intown) is wonderful!  The parks, universities, restaurants, and arts make it very attractive for me and my family.  Most importantly, the people here still exhibit that old fashioned southern hospitality.  We live in a great place, and I would definitely consider retiring here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived in several large cities across the US, and Atlanta (especially intown) is wonderful!  The parks, universities, restaurants, and arts make it very attractive for me and my family.  Most importantly, the people here still exhibit that old fashioned southern hospitality.  We live in a great place, and I would definitely consider retiring here.</p>
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		<title>By: cletus  Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>cletus  Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never fails to amaze me how some of these moonbats like to trash Atlanta yet continue to live here year after year. We moved here from Ft Myers Fl. several years ago and love it here. There are many things to love about Atlanta dining entertainment beautiful parks Yup theres traffic twice a day. People ask me all the time why we moved here from paradise wher you can go to the beach or you can fish at the beach not much opportunity work wise you can work in the tourist industry and be a wair=ter or housekeeper or there used to be construction but no more. In Atlanta the Job market is wide open and there are bucks to be made also there is 4 seasons winter spring summer and fall not just tourist season and dead season. I can easily see why Atlanta can be a retirement Mecca real estate is plentiful and priced right. We live in an area just off Ponce that&#039;s pedestrian friendly and have Marta available when the weather&#039;s bad. I really cant think of an easier place to retire that&#039;s a long ways down the road for me. My next door neighbors are retired  and seem fine They own a time share Condo in Gatlinburg and another in Miami so they&#039;re well retired and happy. niether place is more than a day away. I think Atlanta is ideal for work or retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never fails to amaze me how some of these moonbats like to trash Atlanta yet continue to live here year after year. We moved here from Ft Myers Fl. several years ago and love it here. There are many things to love about Atlanta dining entertainment beautiful parks Yup theres traffic twice a day. People ask me all the time why we moved here from paradise wher you can go to the beach or you can fish at the beach not much opportunity work wise you can work in the tourist industry and be a wair=ter or housekeeper or there used to be construction but no more. In Atlanta the Job market is wide open and there are bucks to be made also there is 4 seasons winter spring summer and fall not just tourist season and dead season. I can easily see why Atlanta can be a retirement Mecca real estate is plentiful and priced right. We live in an area just off Ponce that&#8217;s pedestrian friendly and have Marta available when the weather&#8217;s bad. I really cant think of an easier place to retire that&#8217;s a long ways down the road for me. My next door neighbors are retired  and seem fine They own a time share Condo in Gatlinburg and another in Miami so they&#8217;re well retired and happy. niether place is more than a day away. I think Atlanta is ideal for work or retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Atlanta tops for retirees during recession — really? &#124; The Biz Beat &#124; SwagSodDope LIVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlanta tops for retirees during recession — really? &#124; The Biz Beat &#124; SwagSodDope LIVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Atlanta tops for retirees during recession — really? &#124; The Biz Beat    October 20th, 2009 &#124; Author: admin      Worked for 47 years, the company went belly-up, the pension became a disaster, &amp; we have been priced out of the market for medical expenses &amp; food ! We&#8217;re right in there with the folks that have been caught up in the current recession, &#8230;   Read the original here:  Atlanta tops for retirees during recession — really? &#124; The Biz Beat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Atlanta tops for retirees during recession — really? | The Biz Beat    October 20th, 2009 | Author: admin      Worked for 47 years, the company went belly-up, the pension became a disaster, &amp; we have been priced out of the market for medical expenses &amp; food ! We&#8217;re right in there with the folks that have been caught up in the current recession, &#8230;   Read the original here:  Atlanta tops for retirees during recession — really? | The Biz Beat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, retirees will love the non-stop booming of rap music from suv&#039;s that vibrate the sidewalks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, retirees will love the non-stop booming of rap music from suv&#8217;s that vibrate the sidewalks.</p>
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		<title>By: ziti</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get back on topic: retirement in metro Atlanta. I take little notice of &quot;best of&quot; lists because everyone has a different idea about what&#039;s best for him/her, but this Forbes list and blog caught my eye.

I am both a Delta retiree and a 25-year north Cobb County resident. I thought about moving out of state after I retired a few years ago, especially as Georgia was behind other states in recognizing retirees&#039; actual value to its bottom line. I did a lot of Internet statistical research and made boots-on-the-ground visits to investigate other possible locales. But after comparing them to my physical location and overall cost of living with other benchmarks like taxes, weather, shopping, parks and recreational facilities, educational institutions, medical care, cultural amenities, air transportation, etc., I realized that I was fine right where I was. In fact, I could do a whole lot worse.  Trust me, I&#039;ve been around the globe enough to know what worse is. I recheck my original findings periodically, and the answer is still the same.

The reality is that there&#039;s no Utopia. Every place on earth has something about it that you won&#039;t like, is just plain awful, needs fixing, has too much of and not enough of. Ultimately, you have to decide what you can live with and can&#039;t live without in your later years, and then make the best possible decision about where to live based on that. &quot;Best of&quot; lists are helpful for this but only so much. You have to check things out for yourself.. 

An aside to the dissers: IMO you have no right to complain about the ATL unless you are actively involved in trying to change the things you aren&#039;t happy about. Two words: community involvement. And if you are truly that unhappy here, move. It&#039;s a big old world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get back on topic: retirement in metro Atlanta. I take little notice of &#8220;best of&#8221; lists because everyone has a different idea about what&#8217;s best for him/her, but this Forbes list and blog caught my eye.</p>
<p>I am both a Delta retiree and a 25-year north Cobb County resident. I thought about moving out of state after I retired a few years ago, especially as Georgia was behind other states in recognizing retirees&#8217; actual value to its bottom line. I did a lot of Internet statistical research and made boots-on-the-ground visits to investigate other possible locales. But after comparing them to my physical location and overall cost of living with other benchmarks like taxes, weather, shopping, parks and recreational facilities, educational institutions, medical care, cultural amenities, air transportation, etc., I realized that I was fine right where I was. In fact, I could do a whole lot worse.  Trust me, I&#8217;ve been around the globe enough to know what worse is. I recheck my original findings periodically, and the answer is still the same.</p>
<p>The reality is that there&#8217;s no Utopia. Every place on earth has something about it that you won&#8217;t like, is just plain awful, needs fixing, has too much of and not enough of. Ultimately, you have to decide what you can live with and can&#8217;t live without in your later years, and then make the best possible decision about where to live based on that. &#8220;Best of&#8221; lists are helpful for this but only so much. You have to check things out for yourself.. </p>
<p>An aside to the dissers: IMO you have no right to complain about the ATL unless you are actively involved in trying to change the things you aren&#8217;t happy about. Two words: community involvement. And if you are truly that unhappy here, move. It&#8217;s a big old world.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic, but since it was brought up in an earlier comment I&#039;m curious: are people really stupid enough to believe that the city&#039;s financial shape is Shirley Franklin&#039;s? She inherits a financial disaster and is the only leader in some time to require some fiscal responsibility (hint: if you&#039;re Republican this is where you&#039;re supposed to nod your head in approval) and because you actually have to pay for past sins you blame her? On-topic, Atlanta is much more expensive than smaller regional towns, and this is to my mind typical of the quality of Forbes&#039; reporting. I like the city, but as soon as my kids are out of school I&#039;m moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic, but since it was brought up in an earlier comment I&#8217;m curious: are people really stupid enough to believe that the city&#8217;s financial shape is Shirley Franklin&#8217;s? She inherits a financial disaster and is the only leader in some time to require some fiscal responsibility (hint: if you&#8217;re Republican this is where you&#8217;re supposed to nod your head in approval) and because you actually have to pay for past sins you blame her? On-topic, Atlanta is much more expensive than smaller regional towns, and this is to my mind typical of the quality of Forbes&#8217; reporting. I like the city, but as soon as my kids are out of school I&#8217;m moving.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moved here from NYC...this city is great!  Its pretty clean...lots of trees and sunshine!  Great parks!  Lots of things to do.  From a cultural standpoint its lacking but it is getting better as more and more people continue to move into the city core.  Sure, improvements are needed, but with the Beltline on the horizon this really has the potential of becoming a true world city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moved here from NYC&#8230;this city is great!  Its pretty clean&#8230;lots of trees and sunshine!  Great parks!  Lots of things to do.  From a cultural standpoint its lacking but it is getting better as more and more people continue to move into the city core.  Sure, improvements are needed, but with the Beltline on the horizon this really has the potential of becoming a true world city.</p>
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		<title>By: gc</title>
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		<dc:creator>gc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure in town has the crime element. but commuting with all those crazy drivers who treat the interstate like a nascar track? there was a triple homicide the other week but it wasn&#039;t due to gangs but to a reckless driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure in town has the crime element. but commuting with all those crazy drivers who treat the interstate like a nascar track? there was a triple homicide the other week but it wasn&#8217;t due to gangs but to a reckless driver.</p>
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		<title>By: fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eight of the top ten cities are in the south and southwest.  The other two are the Kansas City and St. Louis areas.  Four of the top ten are in Texas.  Living in any of these areas has to be a lot better than living in Detroit or any other city that has been decimated by the economy and loss of jobs.  Forbes also did a survey listing the top areas for the best places to find new jobs.  Number 3 is Waco, Texas.  Go figure with that one.  Take any survey with a grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eight of the top ten cities are in the south and southwest.  The other two are the Kansas City and St. Louis areas.  Four of the top ten are in Texas.  Living in any of these areas has to be a lot better than living in Detroit or any other city that has been decimated by the economy and loss of jobs.  Forbes also did a survey listing the top areas for the best places to find new jobs.  Number 3 is Waco, Texas.  Go figure with that one.  Take any survey with a grain of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Kieselstein-Schlumberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Kieselstein-Schlumberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never responded on these forums but reading the comments here are so very troubling. It&#039;s not just the tone of the comments but it&#039;s also because many here seem to be so unaware of Forbes List. The kneejerk responses come off as quite unintelligent. The list is referencing the ENTIRE metro Atlanta area. Did some of you people even read the article? Several of the posters here seem hell bent on making this a city of Atlanta issue. Okay enough already! Some of you feel that Atlanta=black=bad. This shtick is so tired and old. The Forbes list is referencing the entire metro Atlanta area. 

I am a native metro Atlantan. I have a home on the Upper East Side (Manhattan) and one in the Mount Paran District (Atlanta). I love them both for the lifestyles they offer...which is quite different...although the same. The cost of living on the UES is far greater than Atlanta. Metro Atlanta is far cheaper than metro NYC. For my husband and I the choice of retirement place would be Manalapan Beach in Florida but that does not underscore the value of retiring in metro Atlanta. I have elderly parents and other relatives still here.

Although I&#039;m a part time Atlanta resident, I feel that the list...while not perfect...has some validity. When one considers the amenities offered, the cost of living, the housing stock, medical facilities and other options, metro Atlanta should rank high. Also, for the record, I have lived either full time (longest) or part time (shortest) in metro Atlanta for many years and I have never experienced crime. Could it happen, yes, but if you aren&#039;t in some crime ridden area then you will do just fine. Most crime here...especially in the suburban areas...seem to be acquaintance crime. It&#039;s the world we live in today. Let us not take this list as a time to bash Atlanta and its black leadership. I question the naysayers: what are you doing to alleviate the problem. If all you offer are complaints then why even bother reading the AJC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never responded on these forums but reading the comments here are so very troubling. It&#8217;s not just the tone of the comments but it&#8217;s also because many here seem to be so unaware of Forbes List. The kneejerk responses come off as quite unintelligent. The list is referencing the ENTIRE metro Atlanta area. Did some of you people even read the article? Several of the posters here seem hell bent on making this a city of Atlanta issue. Okay enough already! Some of you feel that Atlanta=black=bad. This shtick is so tired and old. The Forbes list is referencing the entire metro Atlanta area. </p>
<p>I am a native metro Atlantan. I have a home on the Upper East Side (Manhattan) and one in the Mount Paran District (Atlanta). I love them both for the lifestyles they offer&#8230;which is quite different&#8230;although the same. The cost of living on the UES is far greater than Atlanta. Metro Atlanta is far cheaper than metro NYC. For my husband and I the choice of retirement place would be Manalapan Beach in Florida but that does not underscore the value of retiring in metro Atlanta. I have elderly parents and other relatives still here.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m a part time Atlanta resident, I feel that the list&#8230;while not perfect&#8230;has some validity. When one considers the amenities offered, the cost of living, the housing stock, medical facilities and other options, metro Atlanta should rank high. Also, for the record, I have lived either full time (longest) or part time (shortest) in metro Atlanta for many years and I have never experienced crime. Could it happen, yes, but if you aren&#8217;t in some crime ridden area then you will do just fine. Most crime here&#8230;especially in the suburban areas&#8230;seem to be acquaintance crime. It&#8217;s the world we live in today. Let us not take this list as a time to bash Atlanta and its black leadership. I question the naysayers: what are you doing to alleviate the problem. If all you offer are complaints then why even bother reading the AJC.</p>
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