“War on Drugs” hit by world leaders

Albert Einstein, offering perhaps the most succinct definition ever of “insanity,” said it was performing the very same task repeatedly, yet expecting a different result each time. The modern world’s most famous physicist could easily have been describing the government’s five-decade old “war on drugs.”

In the past half century, one administration after another has spent billions trying to rid the country of those who choose to ingest non-government sanctioned substances. Far from achieving any measure of ultimate success, the result of this so-called “war” has been a net increase in illicit drug users, a massive increase in police powers, a huge increase in America’s prison population, and a depressing decrease in civil liberties.

Now, a breath of fresh air has wafted into the debate over whether it makes sense for governments to continue to engage in this costly conflict. A report issued by the Global Commission on Drug Policy, a panel composed of prominent world leaders, including former Secretary of State George Schultz and former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, has concluded that the “global war on drugs has failed, with devastating consequences for individuals and societies around the world.”

Unfortunately, and sadly, Washington’s response to this impressive report is likely to be to ignore it, and keep right on marching to the same tune. In so doing, the federal government ignores another key and irrefutable conclusion of the Commission’s report: that the ongoing war on drugs has caused the “growth of a ‘huge criminal black market,’ financed by the risk-escalated profits of supplying international demand for illicit drugs.”

In addition to recommending treatment rather than incarceration for non-violent drug addicts, the commission’s solution is decriminalization of drugs. Despite reservations that most politicians in the United States harbor about decriminalization, the policy has a track record of demonstrable success.

For example, when Portugal decriminalized drugs a decade ago, there were dire warnings that drug usage would increase dramatically and the country would become a destination for tourists seeking to get high. A 2009 white paper, authored by Glenn Greenwald for the Cato Institute, found such predictions have not materialized.

Through his extensive research, Greenwald also found that “drug-related pathologies — such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage — have decreased dramatically”; and in so doing, decriminalization actually opened the door to better treatment options. Portugal still fines people for possession, and applies no criminal penalties; although drug trafficking remains a crime.

The conclusions reached by the Global Commission are hardly new. In 1996, the National Review, founded by conservative icon William F. Buckley, Jr., declared the “War on Drugs is lost.” The magazine’s advocacy of drug legalization was based on pragmatic considerations. The Review also understood that the war was “diverting intelligent energy away from how to deal with the problem of addiction, that it is wasting our resources, and that it is encouraging civil, judicial, and penal procedures associated with police states.” Political leaders predictably ignored what the National Review knew.

Outside the United States, political leaders understand it is our country, with its seeming insatiable appetite for illicit drugs, which must lead the way toward reform. According to the Los Angeles Times, for example, Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who says he is open to dialogue despite having stepped up his country’s own bloody war against brutal drug cartels, understands it would be “absurd” to consider legalization in Mexico as long as narcotics remain illegal north of the border, “where the massive demand determines the prices and profitability of the drug trade.”

The rest of the world may be waiting for the United States to at least acknowledge this latest credible conclusion that the billions we spend trying to change human nature, will achieve no more success than in the past decades. Unfortunately, it probably waits in vain.

by Bob Barr — The Barr Code

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malcolm kyle

June 13th, 2011
10:57 am

Alcohol is a factor in the following

* 73% of all felonies * 73% of child beating cases * 41% of rape cases * 80% of wife battering cases * 72% of stabbings * 83% of homicides.

According to the Australian National Drug Research Institute (2003): “Tobacco, alcohol and illicit drugs are prematurely killing around seven million people worldwide each year, and robbing tens of millions more of a healthy life. The research into the global burden of disease attributable to alcohol, tobacco and illicit drugs found that in 2000, tobacco use was responsible for 4.9 million deaths worldwide, equating to 71 percent of all drug-related deaths. Around 1.8 million deaths were attributable to the use of alcohol (26 percent of all drug-related deaths), and illicit drugs (heroin, cocaine and amphetamines) caused approximately 223,000 deaths (3 percent of all drug-related deaths).”

According to DrugRehabs.Org, national mortality figures for 2009 were: tobacco 435,000; poor diet and physical inactivity 365,000; alcohol 85,000; microbial agents 75,000; toxic agents 55,000; motor vehicle crashes 26,347; adverse reactions to prescription drugs 32,000; suicide 30,622; incidents involving firearms 29,000; homicide 20,308; sexual behaviors 20,000; all illicit drug use, direct and indirect 17,000; and marijuana 0.

Apart from the fact that legal drugs kill far more people than all the illegal drugs combined, debating whether a particular drug is harmless or not is missing the whole point. Are drugs like Heroin, Meth or Alcohol dangerous? It simply doesn’t matter, because if we prohibit them then we sure as hell know that it makes a bad situation far worse. If someone wants to attempt to enhance or destroy their lives with particular medicines or poisons, that should be their business, not anybody else’s. Their lives aren’t ours to direct. And anyway, who wants to give criminals a huge un-taxed, endless revenue stream?

A great many of us are slowly but surely wising up to the fact that the best avenue towards realistically dealing with drug use and addiction is through proper regulation which is what we already do with alcohol & tobacco, clearly two of our most dangerous mood altering substances. But for those of you whose ignorant and irrational minds traverse a fantasy plane of existence, you will no doubt remain sorely upset with any type of solution that does not seem to lead to your absurd and unattainable utopia of a drug free society.

really?

June 13th, 2011
11:02 am

Devils Advocate….the street prices for drugs are already inflated way beyond what the drugs are actually worth. Even with government taxation the prices should drop significantly. This price drop will put many drug dealers out of business and make getting marijuana like picking up a six pack of Budweiser. The illegality of drugs is what makes them profitable. Its kind of funny, if you read the writings of many temperance movement supporters during the last days of prohibition, you hear many of the same arguments. Sure there is still a black market for alcohol, but its tiny and insignificant because you can go to the local convenience store and buy it. The same thing would happen if you legalize marijuana. Its a win win for society even if you dont chose to smoke it.

MB

June 13th, 2011
11:04 am

Bob Barr is not a hypocrite on this issue. He has changed his mind after analyzing the facts. There is nothing wrong with that. Sometimes a pig-headed “stay the course” is just not the answer.

Logical Dude

June 13th, 2011
11:20 am

So, Bob, how about going before congress and starting your own lobbying group for this? You have the connections and the drive. Can you get congress on your side? If not, why not?

It seems a no-brainer. Prohibition does not work!

Dirty Harry

June 13th, 2011
11:21 am

Really?, so you want it legalized so it will be cheaper for YOU!!…..I get it now, silly me.

Devil's Advocate

June 13th, 2011
11:24 am

really?

So are we only talking about legalizing marijuana or everything because anytime I hear about a huge bust involving violence it’s typically not the MJ. If we’re only going to legalize MJ then how would the “War on Drugs” be over?

So meth, crack, ice, heroine, etc. Will those come as easy as a 6-pack too?

Nope

June 13th, 2011
11:29 am

As long as the Republican Party and many Democrats continue to bow down to the far right Christian extremists, this will never happen.

malcolm kyle

June 13th, 2011
11:40 am

It’s time for us all to stop being ignorant hypocrites and start being TRUE conservatives!

Pragmatic libertarians (minimal-statists) and “true” Conservatives agree that many, if not most, of society’s problems are caused by government usurping choices that could better be made by individuals and that government is just about the worst way of doing almost anything. Where libertarianism normally parts company with “fake” conservatism is over moral issues. But a true conservative would have no problem with agreeing, that what people do with their own bodies, and especially in the privacy of their own home, should be supremely their business, and that anything else would entail ignoring the basic tenet of limited government.

Fake-Conservatism on the other hand has much in common with socialism; Both Leftists and Fake-Conservatives appear to harbor the belief that nature does not exist and that any human can be anything he wants to be, or can for the “greater good”, be “re-educated” into being. Leftists therefore think little boys can be conditioned into preferring dolls over toy soldiers, and similarly Fake-conservatives believe that adults can be coerced into choosing alcohol over marijuana. A true conservative, just like a pragmatic libertarian, would immediately reject both ideas as nonsense.

If you support prohibition then you are NOT a conservative.
Conservative principles, quite clearly, ARE:

1) Limited, locally controlled government.
2) Individual liberty coupled with personal responsibility.
3) Free enterprise.
4) A strong national defense.
5) Fiscal responsibility.

Prohibition is actually an authoritarian War on the economy, the Constitution and all civic institutions of our great nation.

It’s all about the market and cost/benefit analysis. Whether any particular drug is good, bad, or otherwise is irrelevant! As long as there is demand for any mind altering substance, there will be supply; the end! The only affect prohibiting it has is to drive the price up, increase the costs and profits, and where there is illegal profit to be made criminals and terrorists thrive.

The cost of criminalizing citizens who are using substances no more harmful than similar things that are perfectly legal like alcohol and tobacco, is not only hypocritical and futile, but also simply not worth the incredible damage it does.

Afghani farmers produce approx. 93% of the world’s opium which is then, mostly, refined into street heroin then smuggled throughout Eastern and Western Europe.

Both the Taliban and the terrorists of al Qaeda derive their main income from the prohibition-inflated value of this very easily grown crop, which means that Prohibition is the “Goose that laid the golden egg” and the lifeblood of terrorists as well as drug cartels. Only those opposed, or willing to ignore this fact, want things the way they are.

See: How opium profits the Taliban: http://tinyurl.com/37mr86k

or: A GLOBAL OVERVIEW OF NARCOTICS-FUNDED TERRORIST GROUPS
http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/pdf-files/NarcsFundedTerrs_Extrems.pdf

According to data gathered by privacy expert Christopher Soghoian (PhD candidate at Indiana University), 85-90% of real-time surveillance of your Internet communication is wasted on prohibition enforcement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jJDCxzKmROY#t=342s
- he discusses drug related Internet wiretaps at 5min 42sec

Prohibition provides America’s sworn enemies with financial “aid” and tactical “comforts”. The Constitution of the United States of America defines treason as:
“Article III / Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

Support for prohibition is therefor an act of treason against the Constitution, and a dire threat to the nation’s civic institutions.

The Founding Fathers were not social conservatives who believed that citizens should be subordinate to any particular narrow religious moral order. That is what the whole concept of unalienable individual rights means, and sumptuary laws, especially in the form of prohibition, were something they continually warned about.

It is way past time for us all to wise up and help curtail the dangerous expansions of federal police powers, the encroachments on individual liberties, and the increasing government expenditure devoted to enforcing the unworkable and dangerous policy of drug prohibition.

To support prohibition you have to be either ignorant, stupid, brainwashed, insane or corrupt.

* The US national debt has increased at an average rate of $3,000,000000 per day since 2006. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
* The unemployment rate has increased by 7300 per day since 2008.
* The loss of manufacturing jobs has been 1400 per day since 2006.
* Without the legalized regulation of opium products Afghanistan will continue to be a bottomless pit in which to throw countless billions of tax dollars and wasted American lives.
* The hopeless situation in Afghanistan is helping to destabilize it’s neighbor, Pakistan, which is a country with nuclear weapons.
* The mayhem in Mexico has deteriorated so badly that it’s bordering on farcical.

There is nothing conservative about prohibition, which enlists the most centralized state power in displacement of domestic and community roles. There is everything authoritarian and subversive about this policy which has incinerated American traditions such as Freedom and Federalism with its puritanical flames. Any person seeking to insure and not further compromise the safety of their family and of their neighbors must not only repudiate prohibition but help spearhead its abolition.

“Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy … and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with ‘scientific support’ … fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others. … The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless frightened parents.” – William F. Buckley, Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495

We will always have adults who are too immature to responsibly deal with tobacco, alcohol, heroin, cocaine, meth, various prescription drugs, gambling and even food. Our answer to them should always be: “Get a Nanny, and stop turning the government into one for the rest of us!”

TYC

June 13th, 2011
11:43 am

Well, I really wanted to do business inside the store but if prohibitionists wants me to do my business outside in the parking lot…then, I’ll just keep doing what I do now. It’s not like any law is stopping me from getting anything. Sure, there’s a War on Drugs but the drugs have won and they are powerful and more plentiful than ever before. Yeah! The new guys even deliver just like the pizza guy and the prices are dropping! You aren’t stopping anything with your War on Drugs! Please keep it going.

The prohibitionists have used the ‘lock ‘em in jail and throw away the key strategy…yeah, how’s that working out. You can get black tar heroin, crack, pot, coke, you name it in a maximum security prison. What makes the prohibitionist think that he can keep the same off of his street?

It’s not going away, folks. Who do you want to handle a billion dollar industry, drug gangs or a regulated business? It really is that simple of a choice.

Now, prohibitionists, call me names and threaten me with prison but that’s all you have. Nothing! You don’t have a single logical, fact based reason based in reality or fact to maintain the War on (people who use) Drugs.

Edawg

June 13th, 2011
11:56 am

I agree Bob.

malcolm kyle

June 13th, 2011
11:58 am

“So meth, crack, ice, heroine, etc. Will those come as easy as a 6-pack too?”

We already have legalized regulation of two of the world’s most dangerous drugs – alcohol & nicotine. And all of the ‘at present’ prohibited drugs do already come as easy as a six-pack. Due to Prohibition, the availability of mind-altering drugs has become so universal and unfettered, that in any city of the civilized world, any one of us would be able to procure practically any drug we wish 24/7 and within an hour. Prohibition is a ‘free for all’ where all the profits go to terrorists, illegal cartels and street punks.

This is what proper regulation may look like in the future: http://www.tdpf.org.uk/blueprint%20download.htm

Based on the unalterable proviso that drug use among all echelons of society is essentially an unstoppable and ongoing human behavior which has been with us since the dawn of time, any serious reading on the subject of past attempts at any form of drug prohibition would point most normal thinking people in the direction of sensible regulation.

MrLiberty

June 13th, 2011
12:03 pm

Bob – I once heard you tell the Regular Guys that we couldn’t legalize marijuana because “it alters one’s view of reality” or something similar and that it was too dangerous. Leaving aside the fact that many prescription drugs and alcohol do the same thing, would it be too much to ask of you for a giant appology for your contributions to the insanity we now all suffer under????

The Libertarian Party targetted you as one of the biggest Drug Warriors in congress. I helped contribute to the wonderful campaign ad with the dying elderly woman in the hospital bed who was saying that YOU wanted to deny her her medicine (medical marijuana). Your history is on display for all to see. You do have a lot of connections. You do have a lot of sway with the otherwise Puritanical crowd in washington. Get out your phone and do some convincing. Work with Ron Paul and Rand Paul on some solid legislation to end the war on drugs, to defund the DEA, to abolish the FDA and the other things that will be needed to restore freedom.

Let’s see some action, not just words.

Devil's Advocate

June 13th, 2011
12:08 pm

malcolm kyle

I don’t disagree with your post but I’m just playing my name here as when many people say “legalize drugs to save money” they really mean “legalize marijuana to save money”. I’m just putting it all on the table for public consumption. It’s all or nothing, otherwise there’s no point in legalizing only MJ.

Jimmy62

June 13th, 2011
12:10 pm

Nope: Again, it’s not the religious right prosecuting the war on drugs. They aren’t making money off of it, but you know who is? Police officers, lawyers, SWAT teams, judges, DEA agents, politicians, and a bunch of other people whose jobs and incomes depend on the continuing drug war. Go ahead and blame it on the religious right, the trial lawyers would love that while they laugh on the way to deposit their legal fees from the drug war in their bank.

Al Gore

June 13th, 2011
12:16 pm

Smoking dope leads to global warming

Spock

June 13th, 2011
12:22 pm

The financial windfall in trading of illicit street drugs is leading to lethal violence (when compared to something like drunk driving). Look beyond our own streets to the hideous and vile murders that happen in Mexico by the cartels, for example. This is also happening in our own back yard. Decriminalizing marijuana would alleviate the illegal profit incentive and put much needed tax money into our coffers.

GT

June 13th, 2011
12:26 pm

The spending on this front and the wars we are in, unlike the domestic spending the Republicans rail against, a cloud of mystic very much like the hedge fund managers recipe for his returns. The BOP operates like the CIA. To get any detailed explanation even for the press is pushing a rope. This attitude dominoes through out the conservative sacred cows like the FBI, military and Homeland Security. A huge amount of money is spent by our government to make sure we are afraid of drugs, or weapons of mass destruction, or that lone wolf. Little is ever heard about the losing of this “war” very much like, in my day, Viet Nam. The government adds to the sum of money spent and has us paying ,as a nation, for misinformation, so they can continue to fund these boondoggles.

In “liberal’ domestic spending the facts sit there on an accounting sheet, there is no cloud of mystery. The public is very awake to the going ons. So when you look in your refrigerator and you see domestic cost, it is the first thing you eat. Hidden in the back is the price tag for lost causes that never get eaten and began to smell the whole refrigerator up unless they are removed. But it is the owner of the refrigerator’s favor food so it never gets touched. In South Carolina where the textile business went over seas federal prisons took their place. Storm Thurman’s family even owned property in Edgefield, S.C. where a fed prison is located today. Around the country you see the same, a cloak of secrecy that seldom gets the light of day.

malcolm kyle

June 13th, 2011
12:30 pm

“Smoking dope leads to global warming”

Marijuana is a weed, but due to prohibition many people are forced to grow indoors with all the problems and extra energy consumption that this entails. Now add to this the indoor cultivation on a massive scale done only for profit. You’re statement should have read: Prohibiting dope leads to global warming.

Both the Taliban and the terrorists of al Qaeda derive their main income from the prohibition-inflated value of another very easily grown weed, which means that Prohibition is the “Goose that laid the golden egg” and the lifeblood of terrorists as well as drug cartels. Only those opposed, or willing to ignore this fact, want things the way they are.

See: A GLOBAL OVERVIEW OF NARCOTICS-FUNDED TERRORIST GROUPS
http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/pdf-files/NarcsFundedTerrs_Extrems.pdf

Mark

June 13th, 2011
12:33 pm

From “The Japanese Imperial Conspriacy”, the Japanese took over an island with 40% opium users, three steps, government sells the product for less than the black market, government registers users, government educates the young. Result, 40 years later .5% users.

MrLiberty

June 13th, 2011
12:39 pm

Mark – versus the US/CIA conspiracy where the CIA can’t get any real funding from the US government and congress and so sets up shop in various parts of the world to import either raw materials or finished product back to their customers in the US (Air America, Iran/Contra, etc.) In the Imperial US Conspiracy a whole lot of poor folks in the inner cities have their lives and their communities ruined by crack while murder becomes the primary cause of teen deaths and half the male population ends up behind bars. And there are actually folks who think our government is there to keep us safe and to protect us.

Mark

June 13th, 2011
12:51 pm

The Japanese were no saints, they got rid of drugs to have workers for their factories and farms. Just history, anyway during prohibition there were more alcoholics than before, decriminalization and taxation led to moonshine wars, legalization would mean deciding what to be DUI on. Do we really need drugs?

Ezra

June 13th, 2011
12:55 pm

“fact based reason based in reality or fact to maintain the War on (people who use) Drugs.”

There lies the heart of the problem–drug users! Make using drugs the same crime as producing, transporting, and selling huge quanities of drugs. If you get 20yrs for smoking pot, then the jail population would definitely get smaller. If you make using drugs a capitol offense, prison beds would be available for new offenders.

Mudfoot

June 13th, 2011
1:04 pm

I’ve never been able to make any sense of the US marijuana policies. Alcohol is so much more damaging and dangerous, and it is THE true gateway drug… yet it remains legal while marijuana remains a schedule 1 substance. That’s friggin’ absurd! If someone smokes too much, they’re not gonna be stomping around a bar looking for a fight or go home and beat their wife, they’re not gonna be weaving around on the roads without a clue and they’re not gonna be beligerent and violent when confronted. They’ll either go take a nap or raid the refrigerator, or maybe enjoy a movie that isn’t really all that good or laygh at a joke that isn’t all that funny. The most criminal element to all of this is the amount of money we piss away on this futile effort and the ignorance portrayed by our legislators by keeping and forwarding these outdated and disproven laws in effect. For God’s sake, don’t we have enough incredibly expensive pointless and futile endeavours to keep us busy? WAKE UP AND LEGALIZE MARIJUANA, then tax it and use the revenue to come up with some new social boogeyman that we need saving from

@Dummy Harry

June 13th, 2011
1:40 pm

You are the type of fool who thinks alcohol is not a drug. Tell me genius, when was the last time a teenager got all doped up on weed and wrapped himself around a telephone pole? Right. NEVER!! It doesn’t happen. Marijuana / hemp has all manner of benefits. Some therapeutic, some more mainstream.
The declaration of Independence was written on Hemp. Hemp could replace petroleum in carpet products. Marijuana could be taxed to the hilt and we might actually dig ourselves out of this horrible economy. Think about the job growth, too.
Prohibition is NOT preventing ONE SINGLE interested party from smoking weed. But you go ahead and keep your closed mind and head buried in sand.

Grob Hahn

June 13th, 2011
1:40 pm

UH, Bob? Weren’t YOU one of those “lock up all the addicts and toss the key” kind of “leaders”? Did you really change your mind? Or is pandering to trends just a perpetual habit? An addiction maybe?
Grobbbbbbbbbbb

Aquagirl

June 13th, 2011
1:44 pm

If someone smokes too much, they’re not gonna be stomping around a bar looking for a fight

Apparently you have never gotten between a stoner and his Cheetos.

Jimmy62

June 13th, 2011
1:57 pm

Grob Hahn: So what you are saying is that no one is allowed to change their opinion on anything?

Personally I applaud Mr. Barr for realizing the value of freedom over authoritarianism, and instead of insulting him for it, I support him!

Jimmy62

June 13th, 2011
2:01 pm

Aquagirl: Hilarious. And anti-productive, you are spreading lies about how stoners act, which only serve to perpetuate the false idea that someone who is stoned is more a danger to anyone than they would be sober.

Most of the drunks I know are angry and quick to fly off the handle. Most of the stoners I know are too lazy to do anything destructive. And you will die from overdosing on shots of water long before you overdose smoking weed (no record in history of anyone ever overdosing on pot, but people have definitely died from drinking too much water, should we make water illegal?).

really?

June 13th, 2011
2:10 pm

Devils Advocate….I dont see why you cant just legalize Marijuana. It is used way more than the harder drugs and generates the most money for organized crime. The growers and distributors dont want it to be legal, because they know that their ability to make profit will be greatly diminished. Further, it is unlike any of the other substances you compared it too in terms of addiction potential, withdrawal, and ability to impair. It should have never been classified as a schedule one drug! Its time for the government to admit they were wrong, and its time to abandon the futile effort to lie to the people about the true nature of Marijuana. I know many successful people who smoke weed every single day, which I dont recommend, all while balancing demanding lives and responsibilities. Look around you, everyone is already smoking it and it hasn’t ruined their lives. Prohibition, with regards to drugs, does not work….never has and never will.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:11 pm

Jefferson, STFU.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:12 pm

“Apparently you have never gotten between a stoner and his Cheetos.”

Aquashrill knows all about being stoned.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:12 pm

“As long as the Republican Party and many Democrats continue to bow down to the far right Christian extremists”

Delta is ready when you are, Dope.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:14 pm

“The War on Drugs is probably one of the reasons the west is drowning in dept. ”

Try again, Gump. America is drowning in debt due to idiotic spending by an idiotic president. See: 3 wars, Obozocare, failed stimulus packages, auto bailouts, bank bailouts, Euro-trash bailouts etc…..

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:15 pm

“Prohibition does not work!”

Neither does liberalism and we’re all learning that lesson the hard way.

Al Gore

June 13th, 2011
2:19 pm

Malcolm Kyle – You are the reason they coined the phrase “Why do you think they call it dope?”

GT

June 13th, 2011
2:22 pm

“If you make using drugs a capitol offense, prison beds would be available for new offenders.”

Is that really what you want to do? Lets nuke em? That works fine with most conservatives until they are the ones getting nuke. Sure you or I may never use drugs but supposed you have a child or a grandchild. Is this more of that sacrificing the the other guy for your cause and is good until you have to get off the couch and account for you comments. Michael Douglas played in some movie where he was the drug czar. Tough guy until his daughter got hooked. We are all cowboys until we have a dog in the hunt, then the ones that are cowboys are just the mentally ill.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:23 pm

Boob, have you heard of Mexico? Yeah, you see, they have this thing called “drug wars” where thousands of people have been beheaded, shot, raped, hung, decapitated etc because of drugs.

You might want to rethink your column.

Thanks- Sane person

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:24 pm

“That works fine with most conservatives until they are the ones getting nuke.”

No conservative in the history of the world has ever used nukes, dumb a$$.

The only person to use them was a socialist by the name of FDR.

Oh, and GT sucks.

GT is full of idiots

June 13th, 2011
2:27 pm

“Michael Douglas played in some movie where he was the drug czar.”

What a stupid stupid comment. So you base your opinion off of a fake drug czar in a movie?

really?

June 13th, 2011
2:35 pm

WOW you do realize those people in Mexico are killed because drugs are illegal here. The gangs in Mexico are fighting over production areas, and smuggling routes to feed our demand for illegal drugs. Its the illegality of drugs here thats causing the violence there. Now tell me this, does the violence that prohibition creates outweigh the damage that physical and social harm that drugs actually cause to users? Certainly not with regards to Marijuana. Let me put it another way, what is more dangerous to society, a man with a machine gun trying to protect his illegal profits, or someone legally smoking a joint in their house?

Mudfoot

June 13th, 2011
2:37 pm

Best reason of all to legalize marijuana… If this WOW person were to smoke some occasionally, he/she might actually stop and think about what he/she would like to say before spouting off. That way (since he/she tends to post endlessly) the posts wouldn’t sound like recordings of the latest Hannity show (hopefully) playing over and over, and over … and over… again

btw WOW, about the only way to end the cartel wars in Mexico would be legalization. The path our two gov’ts presently pursue is ridiculously expensive, fruitless and pointless. It has no merit and is an excersize in futility perpetuated by antique mindsets and lackluster thought process. I’m sure you’ll leave some fact-challenged, experience-free poutraged insult of a reply as that’s what reactionaries do. In the meantime hit this once or twice… your friends and family can thank me later

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:37 pm

“you do realize those people in Mexico are killed because drugs are illegal here. ”

LOL!!! So it’s our fault?

really?

June 13th, 2011
2:44 pm

Absolutely its our fault. Who else is to blame? Its not like they are dying to satisfy their own nation’s demand for drugs. You can keep ignoring the obvious if it makes you feel better. People like you make being a libertarian that much more enjoyable.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:46 pm

“Absolutely its our fault. Who else is to blame?”

Ok, so it’s our fault other people kill each other. Ma’am, you are a colossal retard. Seriously, I bet you blame America for 9-11.

“You can keep ignoring the obvious if it makes you feel better.”

Or, I could just ignore your retarded rants, Gump.

“People like you make being a libertarian that much more enjoyable.”

You enjoy getting your a$$ beat in election after election, loser?

There’s a reason Libertarians never win. THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

Jillian Galloway

June 13th, 2011
2:49 pm

Everybody knows that prohibition fuels crime. It’s impossible to ban widely popular products without enriching criminals willing to defy the law. It doesn’t matter if the product is cannabis, alcohol, tobacco or candy – banning any product with huge consumer demand is harmful to society and dangerous to our children.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:50 pm

really?

What problems have libertarians ever solved?

Answer: Nothing

Libertarians are great on paper but they never offer up any real solutions that work. Ron Paul is the only serious Libertarian-type candidate I’ve ever encountered but the guy will never get elected because a: he’s too negative, and b: he can and will never follow through on his suggestions.

Take the Afghan/Iraq wars. He’s talked about ending them but so has Obozo and Obozo has yet to draw down troops.

Remember, Gump. It’s easier to run for pres than to be pres.

WOW

June 13th, 2011
2:51 pm

“Everybody knows that prohibition fuels crime. ”

A lot of things fuel crime.

ted haggert

June 13th, 2011
2:51 pm

wow=wussie on web

Covers Dixie like the Dew

June 13th, 2011
2:58 pm

Guess who was President and Commander in Chief
when the ” War on Drugs ” was declared?

Richard Milhous Nixon

WOW

June 13th, 2011
3:02 pm

haggert = kkk grand wizard