Governments Hassling Gold Coin Sales

If you plan to sell a few gold coins or pieces of gold jewelry because the price of gold is at a record level, be prepared for increased hassling by government regulators and local law enforcement.

The good news for those who own some gold coins is that the price of gold is at an all-time high. The bad news is that local governments are passing ordinances and regulations making it increasingly difficult for law-abiding citizens to sell gold coins to dealers. This is another in an ever-expanding list of examples of government’s irresistible urge to regulate everything, especially if it is something popular.

As usual, governments are justifying their latest moves to make the sale of gold coins more difficult, by claiming the booming popularity of buying and selling gold coins (and jewelry) have led to an increase in theft of such items. That may be; but this typical government response of inconveniencing everyone in order to facilitate nabbing a small number of lawbreakers, is not one that should sit well with most citizens.

What is it that local governments are doing in this regard? As noted recently by Christopher O’Quinn in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, for example, Cherokee County, a suburb just northwest of Atlanta, has passed new regulations requiring businesses dealing in gold to take mug shots of, and fingerprints from, individuals wanting to sell gold coins or jewelry. This privacy-invasive information will, of course, be provided to law enforcement.

The businesses affected by such regulations – many of which are small, Mom and Pop establishments — will have to purchase fingerprinting and photographing equipment in order to comply; an expense apparently of little concern to local governments. Customers, of course, will be forced to pose for mug shots and be fingerprinted like common criminals, simply because they wish to sell their own property.

Perhaps larger firms able to advertise “cash for gold,” will now change their ads to proclaim, “fingerprints for gold.”

Of course, in our post-9/11 world, the government has conditioned air travelers to accept as the price for travelling on a commercial airliner, undergoing either a highly personal body search or a naked-body scan. In such an environment, forcing people to be fingerprinted and photographed simply for selling a gold coin, may be viewed as only another small step for mankind, or rather, for Big Brother.

By Bob Barr – The Barr Code

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Very Very

May 25th, 2011
7:19 am

“Of course, in our post-9/11 world, the government has conditioned air travelers to accept as the price for travelling on a commercial airliner, undergoing either a highly personal body search or a naked-body scan. In such an environment, forcing people to be fingerprinted and photographed simply for selling a gold coin, may be viewed as only another small step for mankind, or rather, for Big Brother.”

Awkwardly phrased as only a careless writer would have phrased it. I mean, who taught Bob where to place commas, man? a small step for mankind is the spectral opposite of a small step for big bro. So why start the bit with mankind? Bob does not even make sense, man.

The price of gold makes our society very dangerous. Would you wear expensive gold jewelry while walking down a dark alley on the wrong side of town at 2am when there ain’t nobody around? You could if’n the muggers knew they couldn’t off the gold without a booking routine.

The price of gold is so high that dentists are stealing their own patient’s gold teeth, man. The price of gold is so high that the ‘49′rs are now ‘99′rs. The price of gold is so high, that…oh, wait. Never go for three.

Don't Tread

May 25th, 2011
8:12 am

Don’t be surprised if the gold owners end up on a secret government list if/when people lose their faith in the currency (which is coming). (People losing their fatih in currency is exactly why they’re buying gold in the first place.)

Intown

May 25th, 2011
8:44 am

This is the type of regulation pawnbrokers have had to put up with and fight off for years.

DebbieDoRight

May 25th, 2011
9:10 am

The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!!

Bob Barr = Chicken Little Lite

WOW

May 25th, 2011
9:24 am

DebbieDumbA$$ needs to get a job.

Civilian

May 25th, 2011
9:53 am

Bob Barr = Chicken Little Lite

Debbiedoodoo=spongebrain

DW

May 25th, 2011
10:10 am

Totally agree with Bob on this one. Not cool at all.

Fred

May 25th, 2011
10:17 am

Debbie do ‘em all is a hore.

FDR confiscated gold in the 30’s. Damm government does anything it pleases. Is there any stopping these evil creatures?

MrLiberty

May 25th, 2011
10:25 am

Debbie does the ignorant thing in almost every one of her postings. She will still be in denial as she is led to the train car. Some people are more afraid of freedom than their own government. Unfortunately they let her vote. Thanks for making us aware Bob.

By the way, APMEX is a great company with a great reputation that both sells and buys gold. Yes, they sell coins, etc. and do not buy jewelry, but if you need to sell a coin or two check out their web site. No, I am not affiliated, just a big fan.

Just another example of how government does everything it can to destroy business. The history you never learn about in school regarding the first Great Depression is the history of destructive government regulations, policies, etc. Yes, you get a taste, but the full story is quite scary and makes clear why the depression lasted until the end of WW2.

Real Athens

May 25th, 2011
10:29 am

Bob. Just like in pawnshops, so what. Don’t ask, don’t tell gold buyers = stolen goods fence.

“Customers, of course, will be forced to pose for mug shots and be fingerprinted like common criminals, simply because they wish to sell their own property.”

No Bob, they want to stop them from selling “your” property.

MrLiberty

May 25th, 2011
10:30 am

Ignorance is all that Debbie knows. If you have ever seen her other comments it would be clear.

Check out a company called APMEX. They only sell and buy coins and bars of the 4 major metals, but they are extremely professional and reliable.

Just another example of how governments go out of their way to destroy the economy. The comments are right. This is really about identifying who owns gold, who is selling, etc. as a means to set up a database for future possible confiscation (or under the guise of a local police operation – can you say Asset Forfeiture?). The government RAT is cornered. While those who have been paying attention are doing what they can to protect their savings, the parasites are going through money withdrawl. Look for things to get worse before they get better.

Real Athens

May 25th, 2011
10:32 am

Bob

Bank of America asks for a thumbprint to cash a check if you don’t have an account there.

Where is the uproar?

the watch dog

May 25th, 2011
10:40 am

This is a flagrant disregard of the 4th Amendment, the right to privacy. This is among the class of rights that is sacrosanct. I go to a gold dealer and have my photograph taken and fingerprinted just so I can sell my garndmother’s wedding ring with1904 inside.
It goes beyond the pale, now a citizen goes into a data bank if they buy too much cold medicne[over the counter].
I cannot believe it, a bar code on a student’s lunch tray so the food [uneaten] can be traced back to a specific student.Now, there will be no privacy at all, how much worse can it get?
Nothing diminishes a person’s worth as quickly as the unheralded search and seizure at any hour of the day our night.

WOW

May 25th, 2011
10:43 am

“Ignorance is all that Debbie knows. If you have ever seen her other comments it would be clear.”

Her stupidity is welcomed over on Dorkman’s blog along with all the other brain dead left wingers.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2011
11:16 am

Just take your gold somewhere more friendly, BOA is a two bit bank.

MrLiberty

May 25th, 2011
11:37 am

Real Athens – BOA’s thumbprint requirement is that of a private institution, not a government mandate. The particular decisions a business chooses to make to protect itself or whatever are generally addressed by the competitive marketplace (ie, don’t like it go somewhere else and let the manager know). Edits forced upon everyone by government are different. There is supposed to be a constitution, etc. that protects us from this kind of behavior, but those who pay attention know differently.

The free market is superior to governmental solutions for this very reason. In the market you have a choice. With government you just have to hope – and we all know how that is going.

SaveOurRepublic

May 25th, 2011
11:38 am

The Central Banking Cartel’s (private) “Federal” Reserve is none too happy with skyrocketing price of precious metals. The bank$ters know full well it undermines their fiat currency, as gold has a REAL intrinsic value…as opposed to the Fed’s sinking “monopoly” money. BTW, investments pegged to the fiat dollar (i.e. – the ponzi scheme that is Wall $treet) will fall alongside the dollar. It’s all about destroying the (declining) middle class.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2011
11:44 am

I don’t know, but would bet those folks in Cherokee Co who made this law call themselves conservative and run as Republicans. If I’m wrong let me know so I can say I was wrong.

MrLiberty

May 25th, 2011
12:18 pm

Jefferson – It certainly wouldn’t surprise me if you were right. Its that very duplicity and lack of principles that is driving so many from the republican party (and of course the democratic party which used to actually defend civil liberties) to embrace the ideas of libertarianism and even that political party.

b.a. baracus

May 25th, 2011
12:30 pm

WOW is the veritable terd in the punchbowl…

WOW

May 25th, 2011
12:43 pm

“WOW is the veritable terd in the punchbowl…”

I’m sure you know all about drinking terds, troglodyte.

Alabama Communist

May 25th, 2011
1:09 pm

Bob is right on this one! Where is the freedom loving Republican Tea Party on this one………Oh! I know, they are too busy trying to get Gays and Mexicans have mug shots and a Big Brother mirco-chip shove up their where the Sun does not shine anymore………

WOW

May 25th, 2011
1:13 pm

Alabama Communist is an oxymoron.

b.a. baracus

May 25th, 2011
1:18 pm

wow is a moron

MrLiberty

May 25th, 2011
1:38 pm

Sadly, although it was Ron Paul’s folks that held the first Tea Party gathering, the majority of the bunch are just big government, police state and war loving types. Why they won’t pay attention to everything he has been saying over the decades (and that is now coming true) I don’t understand. Things like civil liberties protections, etc. should be at the forefront of their agenda, but you are right that they seem to be focussing on the “red meat” issues that typically rile up the republicans. Of course there has been talk all along (and some pretty clear evidence – just look at who was at the Atlanta Tea Party gathering) that the status quo republican leadership has infiltrated the Tea Party movement to coopt it for their needs. Just look at some of the folks who call themselves Tea Party types and that becomes even clearer.

Of course lets also not forget that the War on Drugs and the Patriot Act (you remember them Mr. Barr don’t you?) are the legislative foundations upon which all of this money tracking and security crap stem from. Americans gave up their freedom to supposedly guarantee their security a long time ago.

WOW

May 25th, 2011
1:40 pm

b.a. baracus has a very low IQ and sleeps in the same bed with her inbred mother.

WOW

May 25th, 2011
1:49 pm

Bye Bye, Ed Schmuck! Can’t wait for ANOTHER brain dead left winger to lose his job.

MSNBC’s Ed Schultz calls Laura Ingraham a ‘right-wing slut’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLeGQr9TK6g&feature=player_embedded

SaveOurRepublic

May 25th, 2011
2:19 pm

MrLiberty (@ 13:38, 5/25) – The Tea Party has largely been usurped by Globalist NeoCONs…versus true Constitutionalists (ala Dr.Paul supporters). I think there’s two versions of the Tea Party…v 1.0 (1776) & v 2.0 (Globalist/NeoCON). As has been rightly stated…the answer to “1984″ is “1776″.

MrLiberty

May 25th, 2011
2:37 pm

Well, my categorization used different words, but we are on the same page. Thankfully there are still plenty of constitutionalists in the group – and yes, many of them are trying to rename themselves to distinguish the difference, but as with any threat to the status quo, the media are focussing on the clowns in the group, not the principled ones.

seabeau

May 25th, 2011
2:38 pm

Thye only thing that will save our country and re-estabilish our republic is a MILLION MAN MARCH (ARMED) on D.C.

Real Athens

May 25th, 2011
5:40 pm

MrLiberty:

Point well-made regarding BOA and it’s the reason I bank locally. The LOCAL government regulations that Cherokee County passed have been going on for decades in places like Gwinnett County to try and curb residential burglaries by kids who can easily sell gold jewelry to “Buy Gold Here” truck that is parked on the side of the road. Remember those?

W E O

May 25th, 2011
7:43 pm

“…another small step for mankind, or rather, for Big Brother.”

Yeah this afternoon I witnessed the absurdity of a gray haired gentleman who had to be in his 60s getting carded in the grocery checkout line when he bought cigarettes. Eventually all these little intrusions, like the mug shot when you want to sell gold, will stack up until the government is managing, not regulating, our lives.

The AJC Stinks

May 25th, 2011
10:12 pm

DebbieDumbA$$ works for the Federal government, in the failing Medicare program. Any doubt as to why the program is failing? DebbieDumbA$$ spends all day, every work day, posting on ajc blogs, and not doubt other blogs as well.

Fred

May 26th, 2011
6:18 am

Makes perfect sense. Point guns at and jail the coin seller/ raw milk producer/ pot smoker. Then use those same guns and goons to protect the Wall Street crooks as they walk away with trillions of the little guy’s wealth.

Tim

May 26th, 2011
6:49 am

My guess is that Ed Schultz posts here under the name of WOW.

carlosgvv

May 26th, 2011
9:03 am

Unfortunately, the Governments has to inconvience everyone in order to nab crooks. This is why Doctors and Dentists have to be licenced and why the Govt. has to regulate the testing of drugs.

WOW

May 26th, 2011
9:45 am

Tim ain’t none too bright.

Wow's Mudder

May 26th, 2011
11:42 am

Oh WOW don’t get mad at Tim!! The only reason Tim is not your father is because that German Shepherd beat tim under the fence by getting to me first when I was in heat. Keep your head up son.

Wow's Mudder

May 26th, 2011
11:46 am

Fred & Mr. Liberty – I see you over there, in your dark corner, dressed as women of the night, waiting, lurking, waiting, lurking, pointing and smiling…………..hoping someone will pick you up so that you can have gay sexual relations with big strong strange men. One day, you will be free……..

Miss E

May 26th, 2011
11:52 am

civilians’ skivvies’ have skid marks from his years working on the block; selling himself as a $2 blow j*b whooooree. His butt holeisnowsobig that when he sneezes, he craps all over himself……….

WOW

May 26th, 2011
12:14 pm

Wow’s Mudder = DebbieDumbA$$.

Your lame comebacks were a dead giveaway, low IQ.

Wows Mudder

May 26th, 2011
12:51 pm

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MrLiberty

May 26th, 2011
8:24 pm

carlosgvv – hate to have to point out the obvious, but government licensure is a complete failure. Doctors, their mistakes, and their incompetence kill more people than guns every year. Tens of thousands in fact. Prescription drugs, all approved by the government kill over 45,000 every year and those are ones being used as prescribed by those wonderful government licensend doctors. The medical establishment is a protectionist racquet. The AMA controlls virtually every state house in the country and protects its own like a mother bear. Doctors are rarely prosecuted and their crimes are typically covered up by state laws and a closed medical establishment. The AMA determines how many medical schools there can be, how many doctors can graduate, etc. all to make sure there are never enough doctors to bring down costs. They also work to criminalize all caregivers who might undercut their profits (like midwives, and alternative medical practitioners). State professional licensure is at the heart of our medical cost crisis. Independent, private licensure, separate from the failed government system would do a far superior job and would have to be responsible to the marketplace without being able to use the guns of government to secure power. Can’t really speak to the crimes of dentists, but I am sure there are plenty of horror stories. Frankly just the continued use of the poison mercury in fillings (the ADA holds the patent on them by the way) should convince anyone of how horrible the government-protected dental establishment is.

Professional licensure is sold to us as the way to keep us safe but what it really does is keep the licensed safe from any real competition and the citizens free from freedom to choose.

Your argument is empty, but you have bought into the government lie very well. Now you just need to get re-educated.

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Brice

May 28th, 2011
9:38 am

This is to keep discourage people from selling their own property – the government would rather confiscate it through taxes.

http://bricehubbardmarketing.com/report/