GOP resurrecting RealID bugaboo

Like the little girl said in the 1982 movie, Poltergeist, “They’re baaaaack.” In real life, it’s not the evil spirits emerging from haunted television sets that are returning, but the discredited national identification card program, known as “RealID.” This law was passed in 2005 by Republicans in the Congress and supported by President Bush in the White House. Following its launch and multi-year lead-in, however, RealID was widely condemned by privacy advocates from across the ideological spectrum, and by state governors and legislatures concerned with the size of the unfunded mandate it represented.

Facing such broad opposition, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) extended the time states would have to comply with the Act’s edicts designed to ensure that all state drivers’ licenses were alike, to May 11, 2011; just two months away. The Act requires, for example, that in order for a state-issued driver’s license to be considered valid identification for any “federal” purpose (which the feds consider to include just about anything), it must contain the precise information (and biometrics) the feds require, in the format they require, and based on only acceptable supporting documentation the feds require.

Because of the high cost of complying with these mandates, and in some instances based on privacy concerns, many states refused to comply with the law and some even passed legislation prohibiting compliance. That state governments would have the audacity to thus disagree with the federal government has been a source of considerable pique by Republicans, including former House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and current Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King (R-NY). Now that their party is back in control of the House, Republicans Sensenbrenner and King, joined by current Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith of Texas, recently wrote to DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and demanded that she not extend the May 11th compliance deadline any further. Thankfully, Napolitano ignored the Republicans’ demands and this week extended the deadline to January 15, 2013.

The Republicans in the Congress will likely continue their crusade for a national identification card, using the familiar “the-sky-is-falling” argument. In their assessment, unless all Americans have the same, federally-defined identification card, terrorists will destroy the country. The cost of such heavy-handedness to the average citizen will be extreme.

If and when RealID takes full effect, anyone wishing to board a plane, enter a federal building (including a courthouse), or visit any federal government office to obtain a benefit (such as Social Security or veteran’s benefits), and who fails to present a RealID-compliant driver’s license, would be turned away.

Americans not only should encourage the Obama Administration to further postpone implementation of the RealID program, but demand it take steps to drive a stake through the heart of this unnecessary and privacy-invasive Act, so it cannot ever again rear its ugly head.

By Bob Barr — The Barr Code.

62 comments Add your comment

Joel Edge

March 9th, 2011
6:31 am

Don’t postpone it. Lose it, drop it, forget it, bury it deeply and never think of it again. Apparently, bad ideas never die.

arnold

March 9th, 2011
6:37 am

But I thought the Republican Party wants to follow the lead of the Tea Baggers. “Keep government out of my life”. Could the GOP be flip flopping on their promises to make a smaller government? Besides that, where are the jobs?

Independent

March 9th, 2011
6:39 am

Excuse me, but isn;t this Georgia, where they are trying to pass a law concerning illegal immigrants using fake forms of I.D? It seems that RealID would help out in the illegal immigration problem.

jt

March 9th, 2011
7:03 am

“If and when RealID takes full effect, anyone wishing to board a plane, enter a federal building (including a courthouse), or visit any federal government office to obtain a benefit (such as Social Security or veteran’s benefits), and who fails to present a RealID-compliant driver’s license, would be turned away.”

I am completely cool with that.
Conversely, don’t ask ME for anything.

Joel Edge

March 9th, 2011
7:37 am

And on top of this, we have Obama pushing for a new agency.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/08/obama-draws-proposing-new-education-agency/
It’s time to start cutting some of the waste. Quit promoting some of these big government mandates and live within our means.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 9th, 2011
8:03 am

Good morning. It all sounds pretty silly to me. there is no need for a Federal mandate, and no need for the states to obey. We have a Federal ID card already – social security. Just have the Fed get’s its own life in order there.

One Nation Under educated

March 9th, 2011
8:13 am

well, they have to put it in our drivers licenses, because our legislature announced to the World that they’re not going to let Them put the chips in our head

the mehlman rings twice

March 9th, 2011
8:23 am

So let’s see: Loyalty oaths, birth certificates, RealID. Nothing like smaller government from the small government crowd.

JP

March 9th, 2011
8:48 am

Why am I not surprised – Small Government Repubs pushing something on the states, Big Governments opposed. Why is it every time a party comes back into power, they go bizzaro?

LA

March 9th, 2011
8:49 am

“Besides that, where are the jobs?’

A question that you should point to your cult leader, ma’am. You know, since he’s the leader of the free world.

“But I thought the Republican Party wants to follow the lead of the Tea Baggers.’

I’m sure you’ve been tea bagged plenty of times.

LA

March 9th, 2011
8:50 am

“We have a Federal ID card already – social security.’

Who carries around a copy of their SS card?

LA

March 9th, 2011
8:53 am

“The Republicans in the Congress will likely continue their crusade for a national identification card, using the familiar “the-sky-is-falling” argument. ”

That’s funny. Other than you, I haven’t heard anything about this.

Ted Striker

March 9th, 2011
8:55 am

It’s things like this that fuel the fringe element.

damion

March 9th, 2011
8:56 am

Would this also prevent Americans from getting their ObamaCare hosiptal visits? Then lets keep the law as is, without a moving deadline date (like Obama’s 2011 Commencement Challenge, which is still trying to get sign-ups even)….This was when people start getting turned away, for lack of RealID, then it’ll be easier to dismantle these laws, as the majority won’t be using them it’ll be easier get the fed government out of places it doesn’t belong, returning the rights back to the states/people.

Itsmeagain

March 9th, 2011
8:56 am

Actually, ss cards explicitly say on them not to carry them around with you. Just sayin…

Jason

March 9th, 2011
8:57 am

@LA, maybe people who want their identity stolen? I know lots of people over 50 who carry around their SS card. It seems to be a generational thing. Not that it would be accepted as an ID by the feds or anyone else.

Bob, can a passport be used in place of the RealID card? Seems to me if the feds want to be all picky about how the ID cards they accept are to be produced, they can do it themselves and let the states issue ID cards in the format that is best for that state.

LA

March 9th, 2011
9:16 am

“Actually, ss cards explicitly say on them not to carry them around with you. Just sayin…”

BINGO!

LA

March 9th, 2011
9:47 am

“It’s things like this that fuel the fringe element.”

I’m guessing you are referring to Obama and his cult followers.

TBone

March 9th, 2011
9:49 am

Cards are so 90’s… Face it with the coming new world order and ensuing chaos we will all be required to have the “mark” in order to conduct any sort of commerce. I hear that Japan already has a smart phone type of device which holds their “mark”. Get your hearts right folks time is getting close.

jconservative

March 9th, 2011
9:58 am

Another sign that Republicans are basically all Big Government supporters.

As I say often, I am 68 years old and I have never met a truly conservative Republican.

c.David

March 9th, 2011
10:03 am

@Jason, Actually, letting the states issue ID cards in the format that is best for that state is exactly what REAL ID is about. All REAL ID does is set a minimum standard, and not a difficult one at that, for states to voluntarily comply. Some of the parts of the standard include verifying that a driver’s license applicant is in the country lawfully, verifying that he or she is not an impostor and adding security features to protect the card against counterfeiting. Are these really bad goals?

There are also numerous privacy provisions to make sure that your personal information isn’t compromised – and that information stays within the state record system. The argument of a giant federal database of state driver’s license information is fallacious. Regardless, states may choose how to implement those provisions.

The bottom line is that some states do a lousy job verifying a person’s identity and that leads to people getting IDs in alternate identities. States that do a good job protect their residents; states that don’t are a magnet for criminal impostors and illegal immigrants. Whether the federal government prescribed raising the bar or states take the lead, its common sense to protect the one document that we consistently use to prove our identity. If not – you had better be prepared to obtain a Passport (an actual national ID) – which can be used in place of a compliant state driver’s license.

LA

March 9th, 2011
10:09 am

“Another sign that Republicans are basically all Big Government supporters.”

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. Go back over to Bookman’s blog, left winger.

LA

March 9th, 2011
10:20 am

I’ve seen it all now. Jay Bookman blames “unforeseen events” on high oil prices, not Obama. Yet, just three years ago, he blamed Bush and the GOP for high oil prices.

Libs are really really really stupid people.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

March 9th, 2011
10:26 am

Dear LA and Itsme and Jason and others, good morning. We seemingly agree that the social security card is ubiquitous and unique to the individual, and that it is issued by the Feds – why do you gild the lily by demanding states conform to produce a redundancy?

Halftrack

March 9th, 2011
10:56 am

We don’t need another taxpayer cost program. Obummercare is gonna cost us a lot as it is. Where is our Representatives that act like Union bosses for us taxpayers? The greedy ole government tries to shame us in the name of security and children for new programs.

Jim C

March 9th, 2011
10:59 am

We will never have an ID system secure enough or positive enough to meet the needs of the Department of Homeland Security. They will continually ratchet up the requirements until we are in the position of the poor Russian Serfs under the old Soviet Union – doomed to carry our internal passport around at all times and show it to government functionaries on demand.

If we cannot travel around our own country without having to produce government ID we are not a free people.

Abolish the Department of Homeland Security and repeal the RealID act.

mike

March 9th, 2011
11:07 am

Just smile GOP Go Obama P..

Carlosgvv

March 9th, 2011
11:28 am

It seems there are always some people in our Govt. who want to make the novel 1984 a reality. They want Big Brother to always be watching you.

LA

March 9th, 2011
11:41 am

“They want Big Brother to always be watching you.”

Yep, they’re called fascists.

Common Man

March 9th, 2011
11:51 am

Why waste time on a Federal ID Card? Let’s just go straight to the implants of the Federal ID Computer chip.

Carlosgvv

March 9th, 2011
12:18 pm

LA

And they can be in both parties, though most of them are Demorcats.

GEORGIA GOP LIKES A POLICESTATE

March 9th, 2011
1:54 pm

NOTICE YOU SOUTHERN DIXIE GOP ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NORTH RUNNING EVERYTHING HEAVYHANDED,BUT YET YOU GUYS AND GALS DONT EVER CARE ABOUT SOUTHERN GOP BRINGING IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER-POLICESTATE!

P.S. REMEMBER THE ROADBLOCKS THE GEORGIA STATE PATROL WILL HAVE ON I-20 I-85 AND I-75 TO PULL OVER ALL WHITE MOTORCYCLE RIDERS! MARCH 3-14

Eric

March 9th, 2011
2:02 pm

As others have written, I too agree that requiring citizens to carry a national ID card around is not freedom!

LA

March 9th, 2011
2:20 pm

GEORGIA GOP LIKES A POLICESTATE

Police state is two words, ma’am.

killerj

March 9th, 2011
2:26 pm

Uh?,You mean like if your not an American citizen who doesnt belong here you have to leave? or receiving tax payers benefits when your not a citizen of the o “bomb” ed divided states? Go Tea Party.

Corey

March 9th, 2011
2:32 pm

LA, unless all of our POTUSs belong to OPEC none are responsible for the price of oil. However, the Bush family and members of OPEC do have something in common, O-I-L. We understand you did not vote for Mr. Obama and hate he won. Life is not fair. Is it? But posting juvenile drivel does not serve you well.

Ezra

March 9th, 2011
2:41 pm

Well, we should know that all this started because the federal government would not enforce all the laws. The feds only enforce the laws that keeps them in office–ha that failed too. This ID card is a result of voter fraud, and illegal immigration. Now listen very closely liberals….that is against the law! You had your chance to enforce the federal laws and you did not and because others before you refused to enforce the law does not excuse your responsiblility. No we are not free! We have no property rights! Our other rights listed in the bill of rights are constantly being challenged. So what is this ID card going to take from you? The gov will simply raise your property taxes and make you leave for a cheaper state. Just ask Ohio, Wis., NY, and your know that great state of weirdos, California. Maybe Barr should take up residence there. After all, he is a lawyer! If he were gay he would be perfect.

Ezra

March 9th, 2011
2:44 pm

Corey

March 9th, 2011
2:32 pm
From the 1970’s until now liberals have done everything to starve an oil based enconomy of oil. The liberal replacements are far into the future but the liberals demanded oil drilling stop NOW. That is why the price of oil is beyond reach for poor Americans. It is the work of the progressive liberals. How is that global warming working out for you now?

Corey

March 9th, 2011
2:56 pm

Ezra, all oil is sold on the world market no matter where it is pumped. If you think that drilling in your back yard will suddenly cause the price of a gallon of gas to suddenly plummet then I have an acre of ocean front property in Nevada to sell you.

ironboltbruce

March 9th, 2011
3:07 pm

Do You Hate Fascism, But Love Hitler?

If so, then you’ll have no problems panning the USA Patriot Act while at the same time praising F. James (a.k.a. Fascist “Fat Jim”) Sensenbrenner Jr. R-WI, the pre-9/11 silver spooner turned post-9/11 war profiteer who sponsored (but did not author) the USA Patriot Act which, coupled with the SCOTUS Citizens United vs. FEC decision, ended freedom and democracy in the United States and will doubtless be noted by future historians as the final victory of greed and lust for power over, and the consequent beginning of the end of, the great experiment that was America:

http://ironboltbruce.com

Ezra

March 9th, 2011
3:11 pm

Corey

March 9th, 2011
2:56 pm
Are you saying supply and demand does not control the price of oil but suddenly an event in the world that does not stop the flow of oil does make the price go sky high? Supply and demand will work unless liberals and the greedy elites control the supply. Drill baby drill. I do not want an electric car.

TBone

March 9th, 2011
3:14 pm

I ride an old motorcycle ‘87 BMW more now than I used to because of gas prices and I am white. If I get pulled over by the GSP then so be it. If you ride a harley and look like a hell’s angel on crack I hope they pull you over.

Corey

March 9th, 2011
3:19 pm

Ezra, can you say China and India?

Corey

March 9th, 2011
3:23 pm

Ezra, speculators prey on people’s fears and uncertainty just as the GOP preys on their supporters’ fears. Whenever there is trouble in the M.E. oil prices spike not because demand jumps but because speculators find it easier to dupe us.

First Sergeant

March 9th, 2011
4:22 pm

March 9th, 2011
3:23 pm
Ezra, speculators prey on people’s fears and uncertainty just as the GOP preys on their supporters’ fears. Whenever there is trouble in the M.E. oil prices spike not because demand jumps but because speculators find it easier to dupe us.

Corey, you are right on, however, I don’t think Ezra gets it!

Flush with Flourish

March 9th, 2011
4:29 pm

If Barr makes a Chicken Little reference one. more..time…

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama, BEND OVER, here comes the CHANGE!

March 9th, 2011
4:33 pm

Like this would keep illegals out. What a JOKE!

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama, BEND OVER, here comes the CHANGE!

March 9th, 2011
4:35 pm

Corey – I have some ocean front property in AZ for you. It’s not as much the drilling, although I’m for drilling EVERYWHERE there is oil, it’s the refining we need to increase.

Independent

March 9th, 2011
5:18 pm

Ragnar – we already have a federal ID card – the social security card? Are you kidding? If I hand you a SS card with a number on it, how in the world will you know it belongs to me? It has no picture or anything else (biometric data) to link it to the person presenting it. Also, how come the State of Georgia is so hot to have everyone voting present proper ID but not to keep ailiners safe?

LA

March 9th, 2011
5:45 pm

“We understand you did not vote for Mr. Obama and hate he won. Life is not fair. Is it? But posting juvenile drivel does not serve you well.”

Ma’am, his presidency is one year away from ending. Trust me, I’m laughing at people like you.

Charles Corley

March 9th, 2011
6:43 pm

I talked to you on the Ludlo show 25 yrs. ago. In 1986, Ronnie the working man’s friend, took away our deduction for consumer loans, that included credit cards and car loans and etc. you wouldn’t care what the interest rate was because it’s like cash at tax time. Please give me an answer

lester maddox

March 9th, 2011
7:44 pm

LA, so do you think the ID card is the right thing to do?

LA

March 9th, 2011
9:15 pm

“LA, so do you think the ID card is the right thing to do?”

If it keeps illegals out, fine. Then again, Cynthia Tucker will be crying racism like she did the last time it was brought up.

LA

March 9th, 2011
9:15 pm

Enter your comments here

David

March 10th, 2011
12:06 am

Correction: The little girl in “Poltergeist” said “They’re here” in that film, not “They’re back.” She didn’t say that until “Poltergeist II” in 1986!

ODDOWL

March 10th, 2011
12:13 am

Adolf Hitler and the German Nazies used tatooed biometric I.D. numbers on their citizens too… Way to go Bush/Cheney Republicans…

MC

March 10th, 2011
7:29 am

So the party that wants to allow states to take immigration enforcement powers from the federal government wants to insure that the federal government can force the states to implement this national ID card? Does this among other things not demonstrate that republicans are only using “states rights” as the smokescreen for their dismantling of our constitution? Republicans seem to hate the 4th and 14th amendments. You know. The ones that really protect the most precious of our freedoms.

Flush with Flourish

March 10th, 2011
8:34 am

Der Heetler, (unt his frauline Teetler) is the most overused reference in all of blogdom.

WE get it: Anyone who challenges the Charlie Sheen Tiger Blood Bi-winning style self aggrandizing comments here is a Nazi. What the hell is wrong with referencing Mussolini, (unt his frauline Pussolini) once in a while. (Or Bush unt his frauline Bush)? Huh?

Mix it up, my fine malnourished friends.

LA

March 10th, 2011
10:05 am

“Adolf Hitler and the German Nazies used tatooed biometric I.D. numbers on their citizens too… Way to go Bush/Cheney Republicans…”

Huh, I had no idea those guys were still running the show.

Patrick Redd

March 10th, 2011
11:09 am

Interesting news! I wonder if this will get posted on Twenty-First Tycoon. http://www.21Tycoon.com

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