Quran-burning preacher defines “idiot”

A few years back, I hosted a weekly radio program, “Bob Barr’s Laws of the Universe.”  In recognition of the fact that the first Law of the Universe is, ”The World is Full of Idiots,” each week we would identify one or more members of that large class of persons as rising above the rest, as “Idiot of the Week.”  At the final show each year, we would announce the idiots par excellence as “Idiots of the Year” awardees.  Given the plethora of idiots from which to choose over the course of the year, identifying those truly outstanding idiots worthy of annual recognition was a difficult task; but one we somehow managed to accomplish.

Were I still hosting the show, I have no doubt that for the final show of 2010, one of the finalists for “Idiot of the Year” would be the Rev. Terry Jones of Gainesville, Florida.  Jones is the so-called preacher who is hosting and calling for a Quran-burning party this coming Saturday, September 11th.  Unlike pastors of bona fide churches, Jones’ “Dove World Outreach Center” spends its time and resources preaching hatred of Islam; something its webpage refers to as, ”getting up.” 

While the primary focus of “DWOC” (an acronym the Center itself uses for short-hand references to itself) is Islam, it might just as well be Judaism, since the Center identifies the cardinal sin of Islam to be its belief that “any religion .  .  .  which teaches that Jesus is not the Son of God” is “of the devil.”

Apparently oblivious to much of reality, Rev. Jones appears to care not that staging a highly-publicized book-burning event concentrating on the Quran may — as Gen. David Petraeus has noted from his perspective as the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan — place American troops in danger.  Jones certainly cares even less that Attorney General Eric Holder accurately describes the planned pyrotechnic pic nic as “idiotic.”  In this assessment, however, both Holder and Petraeus are describing the Gainesville preacher in overly generous terms.

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shorna

September 9th, 2010
11:00 am

Sometimes people fail to see the whole of a thing. Just because a few terrorists go on suicide bombing, doesn’t mean all of muslims are terrorists and violent. There are radicals in every relgion, every nation. Many muslims also died on 9/11 and we have to think of this terrorist attack as an attack on humanity by aggressive radicals, not as the wrong-doing of a specific religion…..gosh, how long will it need for people to understand? Now my question is you plan to carry out quran burning picnic based on 9/11, but long before that the “april fool” had been celebrated. What does that signify? Another picnic based on hatred? Hatred for what reason????

Asho1211

September 9th, 2010
11:47 am

@Donna P and MurfDawg and to anyone that is condoning this action. I would just like you to know that a simple action like this may worry some of us and they may go to the extreme of protecting our religion but for most of us we have no worries as the book will feel no pain, true destruction of the quraan cannot be done with fire. It will be destroyed when we ALL fail to remember and practice its lessons in our daily lives, so please burn all you like.

You can make us take off our head scarfs but we will still be wearing Islam in our hearts. you can accuse us of violence but we not scared to die for our religion. You can draw pictures and poke fun at our beloved prophet but he was still a man that lived his life in such a way that even long after his death he is still converting people to our religion.

so dont be scared to speak up because you think that we will kill you and your soldiers if you burn our book be scared that we that we are so united.

you have alot to say about islam why are you not questioning the pastor as to why is he not preaching love, unity and forgiveness but instead hes preaching hatred?is that what he thinks of his religion?

YES I AM A MUSLIM AND IM NOT A TERRIOST

Asho1211

September 9th, 2010
12:04 pm

JOHN!!!!!!have you read the Quraan and understand it? Why are you stating false information? Let me clear this up for all you ignorant people. THE QURAAN DOES NOT STATE THAT ITS OKAY TO KILL AND DOES NOT PREACH VIOLENCE. Get out of your little bubbles and factless opinions. If you want to trash talk islam atleast know what you talking about.

Peter

September 9th, 2010
12:06 pm

Saying ALL Muslims are like the Jerks who destroyed the World Trade Towers, are like saying ALL American’s are like Charles Manson !

That said this “preacher” is more like Charles Manson, than the Reverend ML King !

Peter

September 9th, 2010
12:16 pm

If this guy’s idea is a threat to our ” AMERICAN TROOPS “…..then label him a threat to National Security……….

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
12:51 pm

You are saying because muslims are violent scum who threaten death and violence over burning their stupid unimportant book, its up to US to appease them..

when the hell did america because the united states of spineless a**holes.

Peter

September 9th, 2010
12:58 pm

Hey SPQR(laissez faire) ……..what is being a racist like ?

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
12:58 pm

I bet most the pro-islam appeasers on here in 1938 were saying “we mustn’t antagonize Herr Hitler, he needs the sudatenland and the polish corridor…we should just do what he says”

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
12:59 pm

Hey Peter, what race is islam? (throws a dictionary at peter’s head ..HARD)

ROY

September 9th, 2010
1:12 pm

Producer @10:39am

Your comment makes no sense. Are you a fairy?

shaggy

September 9th, 2010
1:14 pm

SPQR:

I don’t agree with everything you write, however I am in favor of the US of A being a conquering nation. Right now we should be managing a few recent territories that have a bunch of oil. Let them be states in time, if they behave. If they don’t behave, just vanquish them, or using good old testament speak – smite them. Some peoples need a good smiting once in a while. Look it up it’s in the Bible. Even the animals were smitten, smited, hell I don’t know which was done to them. I get my smiting mixed up.

Really, we could deal with the Russians and split the proceeds. Whattaya say? Who would stop us?

mark p

September 9th, 2010
1:30 pm

It is all about free speech. The “cancer” of the muslim world is their slow and carefule integration into any society ( See England) and the trouble they cause along the way. The “cancer” is fostering an intolerance to them and their events. They couch their outrage in lies and put it back on the “fair” americans that they are “honest” admirable people who don’t tolerate their own radical fringe when in essence, they never publically denounce the attacks on the west. Watch the cancer grow. Burning the books is a message to the Muslim world at least for a short period of time, we remember 9/11, we remember all 3000+ who have died and we will watch them as they spread their cancer around the world.

LeeH1

September 9th, 2010
1:54 pm

Hmm. Burning the Koran is wrong, but burning innocent airplane passengers as you drive it into a building on 9/11 isn’t? Where were these Moslem people crying for sensitivity when the Taliban blew up the 1,300 years old statues of Buddha in Bamiyan?

Do Moslems have any other emotion than hysterical anger? It doesn’t seem so. They don’t get mad when they do wrong, they only get mad when someone else steps on their curly toed shoes.

Besides, they can decide for themselves if they will respond to this desecretion with anger and murder; or with thoughtful contemplation as to why others are not fond of their religion as it is practiced. I don’t buy this crap that Moslems are unable to control their feelings and emotions. They can, but they won’t. Because they won’t doesn’t mean we have to step carefully around them. We can treat them as grownups, and punish them only when they break the law.

If they are so set against burning the Koran, and willing to kill, then they should be willing to sacrifice themselves to prevent this act. I suggest putting out an announcement that we will burn the Koran publically, but won’t do it if Osama Bin Laden turns himself in. If he won’t sacrifice himself to save a Koran, then he isn’t much of a Moslem.

Also, I don’t see any Moslems offering to have themselves sacrificed to prevent the burning. I wonder what the pastor would do if a Moslem showed up and offered himself to be burned in order to prevent this insult to God? Would he accept the burned sacrifice in God’s name?

Naw, the whole idea is silly. Moslems will kill for Islam, but won’t die themselves for it. Sacrifice is always on the part of other people, don’t you know.

Peter

September 9th, 2010
2:27 pm

Hey SPQR(laissez faire) …….. how is racism treating you…… did it give you a spine ?

mark p

September 9th, 2010
2:29 pm

LeeH1 Well said ! The Moslems only show anger and threats publically. The fact that our goverment and military leaders agree with them to placate their expression of future hostility is playing into their hands and giving them credibility which is important in the Moslem culture. You know what Petraeus should have said “Bring it”. We have weapons too !

Cekker

September 9th, 2010
2:39 pm

A nut in Florida wants to burn a book — the world seeths.

A nut in the Middle East responds with threats of beheadings and jihad — crickets chirp.

Asho1211

September 9th, 2010
2:40 pm

@leeH1 and to anyone that is condoning this action. I would just like you to know that a simple action like this may worry some of us and they may go to the extreme of protecting our religion but for most of us we have no worries as the book will feel no pain, true destruction of the quraan cannot be done with fire. It will be destroyed when we ALL fail to remember and practice its lessons in our daily lives, so please burn all you like.

You can make us take off our head scarfs but we will still be wearing Islam in our hearts. you can accuse us of violence but we not scared to die for our religion. You can draw pictures and poke fun at our beloved prophet but he was still a man that lived his life in such a way that even long after his death he is still converting people to our religion.

so dont be scared to speak up because you think that we will kill you and your soldiers if you burn our book be scared that we that we are so united.

you have alot to say about islam why are you not questioning the pastor as to why is he not preaching love, unity and forgiveness but instead hes preaching hatred?is that what he thinks of his religion?

YES I AM A MUSLIM AND IM NOT A TERRIOST

Lee we are not all are extreamist, you generalise so widely and just for more info on 9/11 there is a DvD that a CHRISTIAN man has made called the truth about 9/11 i think it would be best if you watch it maybe you will get more insight on what really happend instead of what your goverment has made you believe. America has so many people brain washed and if you guys only knew.i will post the DvD to you for free if it would just open your minds abit and eyes.

Peter

September 9th, 2010
2:41 pm

Folks unfortunately most Muslims lack the type of education we get here in the US……thus they are prone to sensationalism, based on emotion.

But hey we have that here read comments on this blog…… example ….SPQR(laissez faire), who doesn’t understand Racism is a term describing an over all attitude toward a group of people, not just race or color based.

Demun

September 9th, 2010
2:47 pm

ok this guy is an idiot but hundreds(thousands) of muslims burn our flag ( http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_re_as/quran_burning_reaction ) and no one cares….I was against this whole quran burning thing when I first heard about it, but it’s time to fight fire with fire…

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
2:55 pm

Hey Peter(nah..too easy)…I am fairly well educated ..I do not , unlike yourself, just make up definitions of words out of thin air

rac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

again..for PETER and the other STUPID people…what RACE is Islam?

bobw

September 9th, 2010
3:01 pm

I don’t support buring Korans, but I do wonder–Bibles get defaced and burned regularly, both here and abroad. How many of you get upset about that?

While I will concede our First Amendment likely permits destroying either book, as a Christian I never see any of our secular zealots raise one eyebrow if Bibles are defaced or destroyed. All of you seem to be coming out of the woodwork now. Hmmm. Maybe you are afraid of Islamic retaliation?

Sherri

September 9th, 2010
3:22 pm

This is not a religious leader, a real religious leader has compassion for others and would not jeopardize others. This is a National Security issue. All he will do is incite more hatred world wide of Americans putting our troups, our people in danger. There are much better ways to protest.
Protest by teaching what the BIBLE says. PROTEST by PREACHING WHAT JESUS SAYS.
Forgiveness, Hope, Love…Love Each other, Hope for each other, Pray for each other.
That is what a real RELIGIOUS LEADER DOES…..

Peter

September 9th, 2010
3:25 pm

Hey SPQR(laissez faire)…..with the BIG Brain…….. you are obviously racist in your attitude toward others.

Thank you for proving my point.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
3:29 pm

I am glad that this finally, conclusively, and utterly puts the end to the lie that “islam is a religion of peace”.

If Islam was a religion of peace, there would not be hundreds of thousands of Muslims in every 3rd world (and Euro) muslim hovel threatening VIOLENCE, RIOTS, BOMBINGS, and Demanding we suspend our constitution to prevent their stupid little holy book , the rantings of their stupid pedophile prophet the child rapist mohammed, from being burned. Apparently a lot of Americans will run and hide when threatened…

But the proof of the LIE of Islam is peace, is simply…

Why should we be in fear of reprisal when Islam is a religion of peace? They wouldn’t react with violence at all..If Islam was a religion of peace..

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
3:32 pm

Peter, here..have a free honey baked ramadan ham..my treat..PBUH

(BTW, the P is not peace..but it sounds like it)

Peter

September 9th, 2010
3:34 pm

Hey SPQR(laissez faire) you are correct…….there is No Religion of Peace Period.

All religion is man made like the Easter Bunny……. Just another way to control people.

NetBanker

September 9th, 2010
3:35 pm

Personally I find the Muslim world to be rather contradictory. They want the religious freedom protections of the 1st Amendment to build a mosque near ground zero, but they want us to deny the crazy pastor in Florida his 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech. They hold our troops to a high standard when engaging in battle yet it’s ok to kill Muslim children with Muslim suicide bombers. They seem to think the appropriate response to a cartoon or book burning is to kill all citizens of the nation where it occurred. When a woman is raped she is to be killed for dishonoring her family while there is no real consequence for the men who brutalized the woman.

I don’t agree with what the Florida nut job is doing, but it is within his rights and it frustrates me to see us being held ever more captive by the contradictions (which looks like hypocrisy) of the Muslim world.

Asho1211

September 9th, 2010
3:49 pm

once again if you dont know your facts but basing all your all opinions on what you see in the media and what media makes islam out to be then all of you are ignorant. im sorry but all the education in america can not take the ignorance away because your media only shows the extreamist that protest but not what islam is really about. travel the world come to my country and see how peaceful and united we are.

mark p

September 9th, 2010
4:14 pm

asho1211 Ex Marine and I served in the GULF. It is you who must travel and see what Islam is. My opinion doesn’t count. I watched a weak spineless Muslim lay on the ground outside of baghdad while his wife stood over him holding his child on his shoulders while he fired an automatic weapon at my squad. Fortunately a sniper ended his madness and hopefully introduced him to Allah. Peace loving, Wow ! You are the ignorant one aren’t you. It is you who should enrich yourself and you life and leave the USA. Anyone agree with me?

shaggy

September 9th, 2010
4:15 pm

SPQR:

Hey, if we are going to suspend the constitution, let’s do it right and conquer the ba$^ards.

Hell, let’s conquer Venezuela while we are at it. I just don’t like that chunky president that wears fatigues. He really needs a conquering.
If America was indeed on the march, who could stand in our way? Iran? Puhleeze! We can just turn Israel loose on those morons, and maybe they would wipe each other out – a 2 for 1 deal.
The rest of the middle east, well we can sell tickets to the show. They have been fighting for thousands of years, so let’s learn to enjoy their insane antics.
China would want to sell us cheap uniforms and other stuff, so they would bluster but crank up the sweat factories as long as we sold them oil and slapped Taiwan around a little.
France surrendered after one of their citizens read this post.
UK is already a part of the the USA by proxy.
The rest of the mighty EU would be split with Russia. They want some warmer real estate to balance the Siberian chill.
Africa would just be walled off and used as a gigantic zoo.
Japan would be forced to supply every USA family with a personal hibachi chef.
Canada would continue to sleep through everything and wake up wondering why they had been moved in the night to Africa.
Australia would be left alone, because they have a really cool accent and say “mate” all of the time.

Whattaya think, mate?

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
4:43 pm

eh..Settle all family business during the babys commencement…eh..i like it ..eh..i like it

shaggy

September 9th, 2010
5:10 pm

SPQR:
I be speakin to you centurion. You ani’t much of a Roman if you can’t appreciate a good conquering. I’ll bet you ain’t Roman at all.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
5:31 pm

Centurion? Consul! I appreciate a good conquering..I love reading over and over about the 3rd punic war ..Rome had had enough..the initial siege lasted from starting c.149 BC to the spring of 146 BC Many Carthaginians died from starvation during the siege, while many others died in the final six days of fighting. When the war ended, the remaining 50,000 Carthaginians still breathing, a small part of the original pre-war population of aprox 380,000, were sold into slavery by the Roman victors The city was systematically burned for somewhere between 10 and 17 days; the city walls, its buildings and its harbour were utterly destroyed…the remaining Carthaginian territories were annexed by Rome..THATS how you fight a war!!

Trust me I believe the best way to deal with most mortal enemies is to liquidate them..and anyone within the blast radius..but for today, I just wanted to consentraet on the pitifil weakness of the american populous in the face of a few raghead threats..

Those who go along to get along, those who appease..make me sick

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
5:32 pm

concentrate..sp above

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
5:48 pm

Congratulations to The Rev. Terry Jones!!!! This man you all have be reviling , who, no matter how flaky his church may be, had the GUTS to stand up and say NO MORE F’KNG APPEASEMENT TO ISLAM , has accomplished what 71% of the nation wanted..the cordoba house Victory mosque and falafel stand and hamas safe house, will now NOT be built near ground zero!

NetBanker

September 9th, 2010
5:53 pm

“Just because a few terrorists go on suicide bombing, doesn’t mean all of muslims are terrorists and violent. There are radicals in every relgion, every nation.”

While I completely agree with these statements from another blogger I have to say that we don’t tend to see non-muslim radicals blowing up car bombs in markets or sending suicide bombers into police stations or calling for the death of another country’s citizens over a book burning. If Islam truly is a religion of peace then why the violence and bloodshed between Sunni and Shiite sects in almost every islamic nation? We don’t have any other religion of a similar age where adherents of different sects are at war with each other over varying interpretations of the religion. Even so, is it that Islam is violent or Arabs? We don’t see widespread violence in Turkey or Indonesia. So maybe it’s really more of an Arab culture thing than religion

shaggy

September 9th, 2010
6:18 pm

SPQR:

Yep, Punic 3 was a great installment to a failure of a republic. It wasn’t really that long before Augustus ruined the republic show for good, however he could pull a good conquering too. He lost his cookies and three legions in the Tuetonberg (I know that ain’t spelled right) forest, to a bunch of barbarians, SHREEK! BARBARIANS! He was never his same imperial self and needed help going to the bathroom.

You are not any Consul, unless you answer this two part question. Who made Augustus a somebody and who was that somebody dodging in his younger days, afraid the family name would get him EEK! STRANGLED or WORSE?

Foreigner

September 9th, 2010
6:20 pm

I am just a freedom lover. And it is just about this.
Islam litteral translation is “submission” (to Allah). I don’t want to submit, to a state or to any God.If one wants to, so shall he do, as long as he doesn’t try to impose it to others.
I don’t want to harm anyone, unless they tried to harm me first. I am not American, but i do remember 9/11.I remember these horror images. I remember also, on a personal level, the hours of agony without news of a good friend of mine, working in south tower, hearing he could make it out without injuries just a couple a minutes before hearing someone I knew lostb his life in one of the planes.
I remember this was done by muslims terrorists, in name of their god. I remember having seen scenes of enthuastic and overhelming joy all over muslim countries.
I remember and didn’t forget, nor forgive.
Burning a koran (sorry, no capital letter for this) may be idiotic and inefficient. But it is freedom of speech. They are free to believe what they want, and others are free to hate what they believe.
Nobody has any obligation to respect any religion, it’s part of freedom. Freedom is also the right to express opinions some people dislike.
Denying to Terry Jones the right if he wants to to burn a book because of fear of retaliation equals to have a muslim led thought police. Thought police is former USSR, not free world…I am quite surprised a libertarian leader endorses this.
Radical muslims’ feelings are hurt? Fine. They hurted mine, 9 years ago, by killing innocent people, so I don’t care.
How many liberties have we lost, in name of “fighting terrorism”? shall we now accept to loose als freedom of speech and thinking ?

magog

September 9th, 2010
6:24 pm

o’reilly begot hannity, hannity begot beck, beck begot rev, jones….

Divide and Conquer

September 9th, 2010
7:26 pm

Petraeus should change his rank to Politician. It is sickening how cowardly America has become. It is the idiot religious fool’s right to burn all the religious crap he wants. Is it stupid? Of course it is. Just like fools burning American flags are. But it is their right to do so. Anyone who disagrees is a coward and anti-freedom. You know what would be really great? Watching a bunch of “peaceful” islamists on live TV marching down a street, burning our flag, screaming “death to America” suddenly receiving the full force of an AC-130 that just got orders to go weapons free.

The only reason that our troops are in danger is because the full force of our $700 billion DoD budget goes to waste for political correctness. We’d still be fighting Japan, if WWII was conducted the way the DoD is conducting the “war on terror”. That and Russia would still be enjoying all the sauerkraut they can stand.

Shane

September 9th, 2010
9:04 pm

We are teetering on the edge of economic calmity and americans are worried how the muslims are going to feel on saturday. Here is an idea, lets get out of these rat holes that no one cares about and quit spending money we dont have. Then concentrate on some jobs around here, instead of outsourcing them to India, mexico and whereever else corps get their slave labor. Dont worry though, the pussification of america is almost complete.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
10:21 pm

The end result of “multiculturalism”, shane…sad isn;t it..I am glad I never bought into that sh*t

..btw..F’K the pedophile prophet Mohammed and F”k Tarballs Hussein

whatever

September 10th, 2010
1:59 am

I can’t believe how stupid a lot of you are on this board. The current problem is not whether this guy is a “true” pastor or a “real” christian. The REAL problem is – does he have the right to do this? If he HAS that right – don’t you all think that the Feds (FBI) and the socialist president Obama STOPPING him from exercising his constitutional rights (even though you and I may disagree with this) presents an even MORE present danger?? What if this paster wanted to burn books on Wicca, or Satan worship – would you or Obama have a problem with it – not likely. I don’t care if you agree with what he preaches or believes (as I don’t) – BUT we MUST protect his RIGHT to do it. OR else – it could be mainstream Christians trying to protect themselves one day.

Halima

September 10th, 2010
3:21 am

If you want peace in the world you should start it from yourself and forget past and welcome the new day with the aim of spreading peace around the world. Meetings alone cannot help it. Action speaks louder than words whereas this act would be against peace. therefore, these people are anti peace makers.

theyoungarewise

September 10th, 2010
4:51 am

The many different public opinions expressed here are interesting.
1. I would like to know how many people here critisizing the Quran have read it in its original arabic form and interpreted the correct translation. Please do not critisize any holy book as it is sacred to some people, just the like the bible, the towrah and every other book.
2. Like I said in my previous, these terrorists are minority who are using ‘Islam’ as a cover for what they are doing. According to muslim law those people who cause unnecessary violence in the name of Islam are not muslims, but are a disgrace.
3. Those who support the burning of these books are idiotic and not considering the fact stated above in point number 2. The Quran is the holy book of millions of innocent people who have nothing to do with these bombing etc that they are accused of. If you think this is taking a stand against “Terrorists”, its not. These terrorists don’t follow a word the Quran says properly instead twist the meanings of words to fit their own objective. The only people you will be taking a stand against will be the innocent people who believe in the peace and unity that the Quran supports, just like every other holy book.
4. Burning the Quran will do nothing, the terrorists will only do worse and this could eventually lead to something even worse.
5. These terrorists are not muslims, just using the name to justify themselves incorrectly. These terrorists are causing mayhem for all religions. Muslims in Pakistan are being killed everyday by suicide terrorist bombers, why would a muslim kill another. Because these people are NOT muslims, just using the label.

Muslims and every other religion, like Christianity, have to team up and fight against this terrorism andthat is exactly what the governments are trying to do.

People like this ‘idiot’ are just as bad as the terrorists.

theyoungarewise

September 10th, 2010
4:53 am

and please stop offending other people’s religions. Muhammad was not a pedophile, those are just internet rumors, believing them is idiotic. Please stop offending other people’s religiong, whether its Islam or Christianity.

shaggy

September 10th, 2010
6:36 am

SPQR:

You did not know that it was Julius Ceasar, who named Octavian (Augustus) his heir, making him “somebody” who would place the final nail into the failed Roman Republic coffin by assuming the “Purple”. That “Purple” would rule Rome (western empire) for nearly 500 years. In his younger days, Julius Ceasar had to dodge one of the most famous Roman Republic Consuls (twice elected) and Dictator, “Sulla”, who would have certainly had him killed for “family matters”. You read about a Roman war, yet you know nothing.

I knew you were no Roman Consul. You are surely just a plebian Consul-wannabee. I regret addressing you as Centurion, as you are certainly no Centurion either. Go get me some fragrant oil and wash my feet, watch the pinky or I’ll have you crucified.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 10th, 2010
2:43 pm

mohammed WAS a pedophile…the haddith states she was prepubescent at marriage and her age at marriage is generally established at 6..and he consumated the marriage at 9..thats PEDOPHILIA..child RAPE..he picked has because she was a virgin and his other wives were not..he was a pimp

ET TU, shaggy? I did not get a chnace to answer you yesterday but welcome another chatter who realizes how great both the roman republic and early empire was..

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 10th, 2010
2:47 pm

Here is a historicasl fact..all the great roman emperors came thru adoption, or violent overthro..no decent emperor came thru heredical succession….

Abdul

September 10th, 2010
11:47 pm

The Qur’an Is The Unholy Word Of The Devil
http://www.cynet.com/jesus/PROPHECY/QURAN.htm

Muslims worship Satan. Allah is Satan, not God Father of Judeo-Christian Faith. Muslim logo is a logo of Sons of Darkness (Dark Side of The Moon). Their prophet Mohammed was a terrorist and mass murderer.

Maybe Rev. Terry Jones is not politically correct but for sure he is not a coward.
Many “Christians” today turned into bunch of Vaginas.