Quran-burning preacher defines “idiot”

A few years back, I hosted a weekly radio program, “Bob Barr’s Laws of the Universe.”  In recognition of the fact that the first Law of the Universe is, ”The World is Full of Idiots,” each week we would identify one or more members of that large class of persons as rising above the rest, as “Idiot of the Week.”  At the final show each year, we would announce the idiots par excellence as “Idiots of the Year” awardees.  Given the plethora of idiots from which to choose over the course of the year, identifying those truly outstanding idiots worthy of annual recognition was a difficult task; but one we somehow managed to accomplish.

Were I still hosting the show, I have no doubt that for the final show of 2010, one of the finalists for “Idiot of the Year” would be the Rev. Terry Jones of Gainesville, Florida.  Jones is the so-called preacher who is hosting and calling for a Quran-burning party this coming Saturday, September 11th.  Unlike pastors of bona fide churches, Jones’ “Dove World Outreach Center” spends its time and resources preaching hatred of Islam; something its webpage refers to as, ”getting up.” 

While the primary focus of “DWOC” (an acronym the Center itself uses for short-hand references to itself) is Islam, it might just as well be Judaism, since the Center identifies the cardinal sin of Islam to be its belief that “any religion .  .  .  which teaches that Jesus is not the Son of God” is “of the devil.”

Apparently oblivious to much of reality, Rev. Jones appears to care not that staging a highly-publicized book-burning event concentrating on the Quran may — as Gen. David Petraeus has noted from his perspective as the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan — place American troops in danger.  Jones certainly cares even less that Attorney General Eric Holder accurately describes the planned pyrotechnic pic nic as “idiotic.”  In this assessment, however, both Holder and Petraeus are describing the Gainesville preacher in overly generous terms.

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michael evans

September 8th, 2010
4:56 pm

Wow. What a world this would be if we could eradicate all this retarded STUPID religious crap from our societies. Look at all the good all your “loving”, “peaceful”, “forgiving”….religion is doing. Death, hate, intolerance, dissention, anguish, despair. THAT is what your STUPID beliefs in FAIRY TALES HAS BROUGHT THE WORLD!!! To hell with all of you inbred, psychotic, narrow-minded idiots!!! Get RELIGION OUT OF YOUR LIFE. Then you can enjoy your life! Why the hell do you need it? Just live your life being a decent person, treat others fairly and with kindness, take care of your family, and let others live as they choose, as long as it is in a way that does not affect or curtail your life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness. ALL RELIGION must BE ABOLISHED if you want to live a full and happy life! Here’s a solution: take all the “religious” people of the world of ALL faiths, herd all of you together on one continent and put a big razor wire fence around it. Hopefully you will all kill each other off and the rest of us who remain can pop open a beer, turn on a good episode of “Entourage” or an NFL game and enjoy life…….DEATH TO RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 8th, 2010
4:57 pm

Supreme Being

September 8th, 2010
4:59 pm

SPQR(lasissez faire)…I know where you live…I know who you are and I am not happy with you. And my hammer is bigger than yours.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 8th, 2010
5:02 pm

@supreme being..boo..you are a figment of other peoples imagination..the only trinity in my life is Me, Myself, And I..but that being said, jesus never raped a 9 year ..unlike the pedophile mohammed..so modern christianity is benign and not a problem to me..modern islam..contradiction in terms…is a threat because it is not benign

ncgreybr

September 8th, 2010
5:05 pm

Dang the Hung…Just because you haven’t been listening doesn’t mean the Imans haven’t been talking. Maybe you should try opening your heart and your mind a little…just let a LITTLE light in. Iman Feisal Abdul Rauf in NYC has been criss crossing the WORLD talking but YOU wouldn’t listen if he was standing in front of you…just so you could say they don’t do it.

You Distort/We Deride

September 8th, 2010
5:06 pm

Right winger fanatics went into conniptions when informed Americans marched in the streets to protest our engagement in an unnecessary war in Iraq. They said, time and time again, that such protests would endanger our soldiers and undermine our unity.

Guess they show their hypocrisy yet again.

Dang The Hung

September 8th, 2010
5:09 pm

@Judy

Yes and instead of coming here and enlightening us with your vast knowledge of Islam and helping us to understand, you break into ad-hominen attacks. So typical…

Dang The Hung

September 8th, 2010
5:12 pm

@ncgreybr,

Yes, but where is the OUTCRY from the other Iman’s. Surely there is more than just this one that decry’s the radicals of Islam?

ncgreybr

September 8th, 2010
5:25 pm

The fact that you don’t listen and hear any of them says more about you than about them.

Supreme Being

September 8th, 2010
5:29 pm

SPQR (laissez faire)…I guess one day you will find out if you and your trinity are right…ha ha…that will be a hilarious humbling experience for the 3 of you!!!!!

Brad

September 8th, 2010
5:35 pm

@Supreme

Your religion, like all religions, is childish mythology.

Ian Kirkpatrick

September 8th, 2010
5:40 pm

What a Fool. – the spelling of Qu’ran. The Koran spelling is used an England, there are several phonetic ways of spelling the arabic word. In reference to your earlier post, it would suggest that Scout has the UK somewhere in his background. Being of a UK background myself, but with many years in Canada I am amazed at the hatred which I have witnessed in this thread. Last time I gave my testimony I used the Qu’ran to back up my Christian views, pointing out that, in my opinion, Muhammad made one mistake in saying that he believed in the virgin birth, but then said “but God forbid that he has a son” But he also said that Jesus’ mission was very important in teaching people the ‘right way’. I believe that He was truly God and Truly man. He gave us few rules to live by, but at the same time told us to obey the law. The only law he recognized was Talmudic law, the basis of the whole of our faith. As Christians we no longer live under Talmudic law, but rather we should try to live in the spirit of Talmudic law. Muhammad stipulated that the Gospel was holy. The trouble is that neither side in this struggle are prepared to follow the basic tenets of their respective faiths. Inflammatory speeches, and actions, on either side are equally evil, they are designed only to stir up “patriotic feelings” of hatred of the enemy. Intemperate speech and action is, in and of itself, a grave sin.

Judy

September 8th, 2010
5:41 pm

SPQR, you seem to have heaping loads of anger. You keep saying you are not Christian – that is what I thought about the Pastor who is going to burn the Qur’an. You are not the Pastor are you? God save your sole, if you are.

Arthur

September 8th, 2010
5:45 pm

Moslems have been at war with Christianity since the middle ages with many ruthless attacks and murders. The most recent was the Moslem Army grief counselor who savagely shot to death 13 innocent military and civilian personnel at Fort Hood Texas 4 months ago. The coward was captured alive and is now going through the bleeding heart liberal hogwash that permeates the government.

If this congregation decides to burn the Moslem books so what? Armageddon is on hand now with bankrupt corrupt government, states and government decimating budgets and layoffs of 8,000,000 American jobs that will never come back. We have shot ourselves in the foot this time with a stagnant declining economy and if this one church leader bothers you too Bad!!! How many Christians have died at the hands of this religious sect?

ken R

September 8th, 2010
5:51 pm

Ian & dnc

I am at the point in life that I believe most people believe in religion because they are terrified of dying. If you want to talk about turning the other cheek then why did Moses ( supposedly ) if you believe all that crap kill thousands of soldiers who were only obeying orders?
I am sure many of them had families.
I don’t have enough space here to name all the millions of people killed in the name of religion and they all thought that their God was the only one.

Ian Kirkpatrick

September 8th, 2010
5:51 pm

One last point – why is it that so many are afraid to use their names. If I have a point to make, then I owe it to myself to be upfront and express my views, not hiding behind the anonymity of a pseudonym.

Supreme Being

September 8th, 2010
5:56 pm

Brad you should be the master of the universe since you are so wise and all knowing.

Brad

September 8th, 2010
5:57 pm

I am the master of my universe. You choose to give your mastery away to a ghost story.

Ian Kirkpatrick

September 8th, 2010
6:31 pm

Ken R – don’t know what happened to my reply to your last comment, but here goes again: I have no fear of death, in fact I would far rather be with the love of my life than living the lonely existence I do without her. Re your views on religion, consider this: The watch on your wrist just fell together one day, quite by accident. What a crazy statement! Any idiot knows that some guy designed it, and then the factory produced it – what a loser that guy Ian must be to think that it fell together. Now take a look at the world around you. The most simple living thing just fell together, some kind of accident (I know, let’s call it the BIG BANG) caused it to happen. Is it not more far fetched to think that the infinitely more complex universe just fell together? As for the truth of the Bible – I as most Christians believe the Bible to be a body of truth, not a body of literal truth. The Old Testament shows the development of the People of Israel. We believe it to be divinely inspired. The bible as we know it cannot be literally true, it is a translation, with all the inherent defects of a translation. Finally You made the very point I have been trying to make all along, human weakness (both moral and intellectual) has led to the death and destruction we have seen through the centuries. All because we talk instead of listen.

itpdude

September 8th, 2010
6:48 pm

These Qurans are owned by the preacher and are being burned on his property, right?

Non-issue.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 8th, 2010
7:07 pm

@judy..nope

In fac, the only distasteful idea of a koran burning day is that it is being focused by a fringe nutty church..when the idea itself is anything but fringe.

I do have heap loads of anger, thanks for noticing..

To the last, I grapple with thee..from hells heart i stab at thee..for hates sake, I spit my last breath at thee..

RIP Glenn “otho” shaddix

garyb

September 8th, 2010
8:17 pm

stupid, stupid, stupid. This dude would of made a great nazi, his acts make him a nazi, this is not an act that is news worthy, but anytime the news agencys can create further news they will, i’m sure fox will be there, and glen beck will be holding the torch, i wonder how many wear white sheets? disgusted in seattle.

not muslim

September 8th, 2010
8:34 pm

if you can get your own quran (koran) then dont look at what others do with theirs. read the wisdom and worship your lord. because when others will astray, you will lose focus on the heavenly glory above your head. ~ im saying “the pastor makes fools of his people and they obey him because they dont know better”.

Scout

September 8th, 2010
8:42 pm

Superior Being: I’m retired. Keep working ……… you’ll get there.

ncgreybr: And you make my point ……… Islamists should just shake their heads and walk away.

bill

September 8th, 2010
9:27 pm

My balls need licking bob.

MikeJ.

September 8th, 2010
9:44 pm

Wow, wow, wow…. as an American, I am ashamed to read some of these comments posted on here by my fellow Christian Americans. What “God” and Jesus Christ do you people beleive in? Is this what your “Christian” religion teaches you? If so, what the f…. makes you so different from the terrorist responsible for 9/11?

Scout

September 8th, 2010
10:06 pm

MikeJ.

Please be more specific.

Mike

September 8th, 2010
11:02 pm

Is Bob Barr a member of a barber shop quartet? The striped shirt and funny mustache have 1890s written all over them.

Adrie

September 8th, 2010
11:14 pm

I remember another Preacher Jones that led his congregation down the wrong path. How can they proclaim to be a loving Christian Church and planning on doing something that will bring shame to our country and could bring death. Those Muslim who do not believe in the Quran and it truth will be the ones that do harm to Christians. People in Gainesville should be protesting now around the clock and let these people from Jones’s Church know that this behavior is not acceptable here in the U.S.

bigballs

September 8th, 2010
11:29 pm

I thought we were talking about this idiot? So when we don’t have anything intelligent to say we resort to the same old news quotes and name calling. Please wake up, Stand up and do what you believe is right. Florida is breeding grounds for false religions, hiding under the foreword of Christianity. We talk about home grown terrorist; People like this man are the same people that kill and plot against this great nation.
If the (REAL) Christians in this man’s area had true concern and frankly the courage to admit one of their own is wrong. They would hold a vigil to show discontent for his unfortunate laps of godliness. Last time I checked God gave man the ability to make our own decisions and know the difference between right and wrong. If one soldier dies in the name of Christ due to this man a new line will be drawn in the sand and the we will be in the same boat as the Muslims ”Grouped as Extremist”
Pay attention America, Home grown Terrorist also Read the same book (BIBLE) as you.

jordon

September 9th, 2010
12:04 am

This the dimmest thing a person can do all religion should be respected. He is a wast of human being that what i think. i hope that fire does not work for him. his only making it worse for himself and his country.

Mrs. Norris

September 9th, 2010
1:02 am

Regardles of what you think and how this all plays out, the terrorist have won. We are now afraid to excercise our right of freedom of speech and religion. The media and Washington could have ignored this and no one would have ever known about it. We could have saved face and averted an international incident. Now if the preacher caves into pressure, all our talk about freedom of speech and religion is just lovely rhetoric. If he does go through with it, there is bound to be some kind of backlash somewhere. Way to go idiots. It’s a pity we don’t have wise leaders.

Judy

September 9th, 2010
1:31 am

With freedom of speech, comes responsibility. We all have a choice – be an idiot whacko or an intelligent human being.

SPQR(laissez faire)

September 9th, 2010
2:40 am

hey Judy, when do you get off your knees and stop groveling like a b*tch…thats a female dog btw…muslims hate dogs too..(the arabs and persians do , anyway)

If they threaten violence for a koran burning, you run like a baby and cave..

If they threaten violence for a cartoon of the pedophile mohammed, you run like a baby and cave..

If they threaten violence if you don’t stand on your head and hum allah ackbar, I have no doubt you would be upside down as we speak…

To hell with muslims demands and feelings..(anyones, really).

I will not be demanded from..especially by people who revere a f’king pedophile child rapist named mohammed. To paraphrase walter from the big lebowski..”9 year olds, dude”

check youtube tommorrow for a new koran burning ..I decided to pre-empt the dove world outreach center.

Money

September 9th, 2010
2:48 am

its disappointing to be reading about this and having the realization that nothing can be done to stop this man (so-called preacher). When I think about it, it seems like everyone is aware of an atomic bomb thats going to explode killing thousands, maybe millions of people, yet no one can stop it. I know within America, people have the freedom of expression, but shouldnt this have a limitation due to the outcome of what it may cause upon others, especially for those who serve in the military.
My husband and I (US nationals) both serve in the Army, and we stand proud in serving the United States, but this is disturbing news, seeing as how an American (this preacher) can do such a thing, or publicize such a thing. I cant imagine having to lose my husband in this war we face due to the ignorant act of an American (the people we fight for). It is also disturbing to know that this man may not be stopped.

p.s. To Matthew Cole: I understand a bit of where your coming from, but you have to understand, we are already at war and are hoping to make peace so that all the soldier who serve to keep you and millions of other people safe can come back to their families… Honestly, until you know what its like to wait for your husband, wife, son, daughter, or any member of your family to come back from war (thats if they dont die out there), then you wont really feel the desperate need of having peace over all this chaos that has already taken part. And as for the First amendment, if your given the freedom to do something, do so, but be considerate as to where no harm can come to others (eg. the soldiers who may have to continue risking their lives in the War on terrorism).

Pieter

September 9th, 2010
5:45 am

Everybody is MISSING THE POINT. We should discuss OBAMA allowing the building of a Muslim Mosque at “Ground Zero” where thousands of innocent Americans lost their lives to Muslim zeal “in the name of Alah”. This is where it started. Is Obama not the idiot? Does he not understand true religion? Or does he want a Muslim state where lady Clinton’s husband would have his toti chopped off by a Muslim sword for his fornication? So also Tiger Woods and all the other idolaters and adulterers. Christians deal with the religious issues peacefully. But the Koran does support violence in order to protect the Muslim faith. Go and read it! Take this to Obama. He needs to be educated in religious matters. And he will have to choose. In the end so will everybody. If you don;t understand it go and study these books! You Americans are so gullible. AMERICA, YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE! Do you worship democracy alone, or do you worship the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? It is time to choose before it is too late.

Obama should ban the Mosque at Ground Zero and ban the burning of Bibles and Korans.

theyoungarewise

September 9th, 2010
7:54 am

What this man is doing will provoke only mayhem, truly he is an idiot.
But what you are all doing is not appreciated either. When you say muslim, critisize muslims, blame muslims, are you referring to the whole 1.5 billion population of muslims in the world.? These “muslims” you refer to are a group of extremists called te al-qaeda. According to muslim law those people who cause unnecessary violence in the name of Islam are not muslims, but are a disgrace.

And let me give you a little insight on who these taliban are. They were people especially picked and trained by America to fight against the russians a few decades ago when Russia was a threat to America. The taliban are America’s Frankenstein. Now they are labelled as “muslims” as a cover up and we have the whole world turned against one religion. These are merely people who are using the cover of Islam to justify what is right but in no way does Islam encourage the acts the taliban and alqaeda commit.

Also there was a comment in which there was something included about “muslims” stoning women to death for being “accused” of getting raped/cheating. Just to clear things up NOWHERE in Islam does it say to kill a rape victim, NOWHERE. Its just the low mentality and the narrowmindedness of these small populations of people who claim to do it because its in the rule books. Its not. These are acts which no only occur in muslim populations but also in different religions all over the world and are completely wrong and in no way promoted by Islam or any other religion.

So please get your facts right and next time when you speak of “muslims” doing something wrong, it is merely the act of a few who try to incorrectly justify their actions using the name of ‘Islam’. Please think of the billions of innocent people who have to put up with taunts and embarresment everyday just for having their own faith.

Thank You (:

theyoungarewise

September 9th, 2010
8:04 am

And Judy, thank you (:
One of the only people who speak wisely here!

this guys nuts

September 9th, 2010
8:10 am

if the nut wants attention have him kill himself on u tube

Terri

September 9th, 2010
9:05 am

This guy is knowingly putting our troops in harms way to get them killed….HE IS NO BETTER THEN THE TERRORISTS WE ARE FIGHTING. If we can arrest terrorists, then he needs to be arrested too!!!
WTF!!!

Producer

September 9th, 2010
9:21 am

If the safety of our troops is seriously dependant on the preacher NOT burning the Koran we’re in bad, bad shape. Stop appeasing the radicals and start killing them.

Producer

September 9th, 2010
9:27 am

Terri, love to see the depth of your knowledge of our laws. Truly enlightening! What law would you charge the preacher with breaking in order to have him arrested? I know, freedom of speech!! Yeah, that’s the one!!

Philip

September 9th, 2010
9:33 am

Finally an American with some backbone.. Bravo, Pastor.
Those opposing this event is doing so only out of fear. Exactly what the message terrorists are trying to send.

Drawing Black Lines

September 9th, 2010
9:42 am

I totally disagree with the pastor. However, I’m outraged that everybody is tripping over themselves out of fear that angry terrorists will strike because of this. Is this how America is moving forward in the world?

ROY

September 9th, 2010
9:50 am

I’m a Christian and go by the Holy Bible. The Quran I believe also worships the same God as we do, the difference is in there book Jesus is a great prophet and not the son of God. They preach the same peace as we do. The same love and brotherhood. I love all people good or bad and God will have his vengence on the few bad apples that are in the Muslem Church. Don’t disrespect 1.5 billion good people because 25,000 are extremist.

Peter

September 9th, 2010
9:54 am

Burning the Koran ” MAY “makes sense if you are an atheist….. so if one burns a Bible it would be no different, or if one burned any religious book.

But if you are at all “Religious”, and believe in God’s teachings…..then it is about making a judgment of another person’s personal choice……which of course is NOT Christian like at all.

Ego trip for the guy who decides he wants to judge others, and made silly associations, and assumptions.

As we know, he is a regular nut bag who stole money from his own church and used it for personal reasons……..that is stealing….. Is that Christian like behavior ?

Why is his religion better than being a Muslim ? It is not…… he is an idiot for sure !

Peter

September 9th, 2010
9:55 am

Maybe the guy is wanting yet “ANOTHER” Religious WAR ?

Walter

September 9th, 2010
10:11 am

I am an American serving in Iraq. If one believes that this act will put American lives at risk (and I believe that it will) then I would request the administration focus on the media covering the event. Its beneath the Presidency to address this guy. I would request that the media ignore this insignificant figure…and to make a mutual agreement not to cover this. By elevating this minor figure, Terry Jones, to international stature will only encourage other minor figures to do outrageous acts to achieve their “15 minutes of fame”….for the sake of us here in theater…please ignore this guy.

Dang The Hung

September 9th, 2010
10:37 am

I have no respect for ANY religion that devalues human life, especially over a book nonetheless. The fact that some people here are encouraging bodily harm towards someone for burning a book speaks volumes about how they *don’t* cherish life and respect it. The fact that Muslims are willing to kill over the burning of a book also speaks volumes about how they are a “religion of peace”. It appears that Islam is a violent, hate-filled atrocity that must be dealt with on the same level of violence.

The people that have claimed that Islam as peaceful and non violent have done NOTHING to disprove otherwise. I have read others’ posts in here and I have taken their advice and tried to listen, but all I hear is just name calling, ad-hominen attacks, and threats of violence towards another over nothing more than just a disagreement.

I too can act and behave on the same level of Muslims. If one of those violence prone, hate-filled, elitist Islamo weird beard wackos comes near me or my family and goes off on a sudden jihadi syndrome rage, I’ll snatch the life right out of ‘em.

Producer

September 9th, 2010
10:39 am

Hate to burst you bubble, Roy. The estimates of how many radicals there are out of the 1.5 billion peace-loving, Kumbaya-singing, birds-are-chirping Muslims is low-balled at 10% of that number, so 25k is way, way low. The actual real percentage of radicals is a good 5-10% higher. The sooner we acknowledge that is a genuine us versus them, preservation of the Western Way of Life war and have the stones to eliminate totally those who seek to destroy us, the better the West will be.