Naive Schwarzenegger appears shocked and amazed at welfare abuses

In a display of naivete that is itself shocking, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger reacted with apparent amazement to reports that California welfare recipients were using their state-issued debit cards to get cash from ATMs located inside gambling establishments.  He, of course, promised immediate action to stop the abuses.  Should California taxpayers hold their collective breath?

The first question one might ask of the governor is, “when you give welfare recipients a debit card that empowers them to make cash withdraws from ATMs, and some of them decide to withdraw cash at casinos, what the heck did you expect?”  Are these government officials so naive themselves that they actually believed that in issuing virtually unrestricted debit cards to people on welfare, they would use the cards only for purchasing bread, milk and eggs? 

Schwarzenegger’s spokesman Aaron McLear is quoted in the Los Angeles Times as concluding that the behavior exhibited by these California welfare recipients is “reprehensible.”  In a well-known scene from the famous Humphrey Bogart movie, “Casablanca,” the local police chief expresses shock and amazement that gambling is taking place at a casino.  If in fact officials in California truly are shocked and amazed that citizens would abuse the free money they can obtain from state-issued debit cards, then California is in deeper trouble than many people have already concluded.

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Maddog

June 25th, 2010
6:39 am

Unbelievable stupidity to think some people, poor or not, wouldn’t abuse “free” money. Unbelievable stupidity to not realize gambling is an addiction for some. Unbelievable lack of accountability on the part of California and Arnold. Will he fire anyone? Probably not.

Dan

June 25th, 2010
6:50 am

Maybe Arnold will fire himself.

David S

June 25th, 2010
7:27 am

Arnold is married to a Kennedy. Its like a parasitic infection that devours your soul and your intelligence. Somehow you end up believing both that everyone is good and that everyone is so bad that only government can save them. That schizophenia worsens the problem until all logical thought is impossible.

The libertarian on the other hand understands the true nature of government and realizes that big government programs that fail on the domestic front are always bound to fail when applied internationally too. That’s what separates them from the clueless conservatives.

California is doomed, but every other state in the nation is suffering from the same problem, just a lesser degree of it.

David S

June 25th, 2010
8:07 am

Did anyone else notice that Bob’s blog on ending the War on Drugs was up around lunch time and is now conveniently missing from the AJC? I guess speaking the truth about our failed drug war is just too controversial at the AJC. I’m sure it upset a few of their advertizers like the Pharmaceutical companies and the alcohol folks. Nobody fears the legalization of marijuana moare than those folks.

ATL4Real

June 25th, 2010
8:14 am

David S, I get the impression that you are regurgitating somebody else’s opinion. I’m betting that a Libertarian said that to you at one point, maybe you got into a political discussion in college, and you thought to yourself “that sounds good; I’m going to pass that off as my own original thought when another discussion about politics comes up”

joan

June 25th, 2010
8:17 am

This is typical government. They have no idea what happens to the taxpayer money they dole out. they have government employees whose job it is to watch these dollars, but they never do. They are simply idolent and lazy and hang around long enough to retire early. I was behind a woman at Wal-mart yesterday–big, fat, 7 months pregnant, two kids in a cart, and using food stamps. I just wondered why it is important that we feed her and those kids who are likely to grow up just like her. She has never contributed anything to this world other than more parasites. And in the meantime, the taxpayers are taking the shaft. I really resent it.

Matt Hartman

June 25th, 2010
8:28 am

This and how many other scams are draining the Governer’s coffers, these kind of people (the bad eggs among them) have always found ways to convert welfare funds into cash to buy tobacco, booze, drugs, and other things that they should have bought with work earned cash. Of course some of them will go to casinos and spend! This Governer is like a vampire, draining the lifeblood out of the people sworn to defend the state of California, cutting 15% of their salaries, and still wants to take more away. Many state workers losing cars, homes, and for some: bankruptcy. All of the crime againest the Governer’s workforce and then to see some welfare receipients attached to Schwarzenegger’s legs like giant blood sucking leeches…

For every mistep and waste Arnold commits he is really draining the blood out of Meg Whitman’s run for Governer of California, even the staunchest Republican in the California state workforce will cast Meg aside and vote for Jerry Brown, no matter how good or bad he will be as governer!

Sam ( The Cool 1 )

June 25th, 2010
8:32 am

Arnold needs to watch some of The Cisco Kid and Pancho shows. It might just help him.

Obama < Pile of Horse Manure

June 25th, 2010
8:42 am

If Schwarzenegger had ever lived in South DeKalb, South Fulton or Clayton County, he would not be surprised by such scams and abuses.

neo-Carlinist

June 25th, 2010
8:46 am

and there is an entire legal practice based on gaming the Social Security disability system, and people use “food stamps” to buy cigarettes and beer, and, and, and… MOST humans are smarmy weasels who would rather steal than earn.

interested observer

June 25th, 2010
9:08 am

Hey, Bob, it is a popular statement among politicians — particularly conservatives — that Americans are smart enough to make decisions in their best interest. Wish it were so, but it isn’t. That’s why we tend to have a “nanny state” that you so often decry.

There’s nothing wrong with America that a better class of citizens wouldn’t solve.

TEE

June 25th, 2010
9:20 am

Why is anyone with a brain cell, even listening B.Barr …

Morrus

June 25th, 2010
9:20 am

Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.

TEE

June 25th, 2010
9:21 am

Ditto. Morrus

AJC Staff

June 25th, 2010
9:33 am

David S: Big Brother is watching you. You better stop pointing out our censorship and selective opinion.

BADA BING

June 25th, 2010
10:00 am

Isn’t it funny how CA claims State’s Rights for legalizing pot, but criticize AZ over their claim of State’s Rights in regard to illegal immigration? CA’s problem is that they think the world revolves around them. Boycott LA and San Fran, support AZ.

BADA BING

June 25th, 2010
10:02 am

Daddy, have you stopped the leak /kicked someone’s ass/ won the war/ created jobs yet?

EverybodyLovesRaymond

June 25th, 2010
10:16 am

joan@8:17 I realize that you probably won’t read this since you usually just do a drive-by spew of hate, but just because you pay your taxes, it doesn’t mean that you get to pass judgment on the worth of another human being.

Did you ever stop to think that children don’t get to choose their parents? What do you propose? Just let the kids starve to death?

Sue

June 25th, 2010
10:24 am

Someone is shocked at misuse of food stamps? It happens on a regular basis. Food stamps are used legally to purchase chips, soft drinks, candy, chewing gum, anything and everything except non-food items. Taxpayers provide food stamps to people who use them for junk and then pay cash for alcohol, tobacco, etc. I am a cashier and see it on a regular, daily basis.

DevilsA

June 25th, 2010
11:11 am

“The less fortunate get all the breaks!”

stranger in a strange land

June 25th, 2010
11:58 am

Why is anyone worrying about me spending money at a casio? When the well runs dry, the governator will send me another magic bean…er card…that spits out some more. I guess if Arnold runs out of money, he could just get some Obama money. What’s the big deal?

mrs. w

June 25th, 2010
12:25 pm

Well you know Bob he ain’t from here.

Dennis

June 25th, 2010
12:53 pm

I am shocked as well ! I thought gambling money was to be provided by the host taxpayers ? If taxpaying yolked oxen can sacrifice 5 out of 12 months a year, 33 percent of their income, 25 percent of their childrens income, and 15 percent of their grandchildrens income, then are recreational extras for morale boosting purposes to be un-subsidized ? We can refinance their houses, we can buy their bon-bons. We can get them defaultable consumer loans. Obama said “we all need to sacrifice”, so lets all get behind the “ones behind us” and take one for the team, shall we?

David S

June 25th, 2010
1:16 pm

ATL4Real – I guess you don’t read my other posts or you wouldn’t be so ignorant of the consistent and pricipled arguments I always make against government. I have been an elected party office in 2 states and a candidate for public office on the party banner in one.

Given that I made two comments, one about Libertarians and Kennedy’s and another about the war on drugs, it is difficult to which post you are directing your ignorance about me.

The biggest contributors to the Partnership for a Drug Free America are pharmaceutical companies and the alcohol industry. The data is available.

I have my facts straight. What about you??

David S

June 25th, 2010
1:16 pm

Libertarian party office holders that is.

David S

June 25th, 2010
1:18 pm

AJC Staff – So you saw it too?

I wonder if Google or anyone cached the page when it was up? I wish I had.

David S

June 25th, 2010
1:24 pm

Actually, I little research does help:

It’s time this drug ‘war’ ended
6:00 am May 25, 2009, by Bob Barr

It seems as though the AJC posted his previouw Blog from back in 2009 I guess in response to their article yesterday that Gwinnett courts are overflowing and getting clogged with drug cases. There is even a post from yesterday on the blog. Guess they figured out their own mistake and pulled it. Nothing nefarious this time, but the point about the pharmaceutical companies and the alcohol industry remains. Add to that the prison-industrial complex, the CIA, and others who profit hugely from the fact that drugs are illegal and the forces against change are enormous. Mystery solved.

midtownguy

June 25th, 2010
1:38 pm

I work in the debit card business. If you try to restrict their use (no debit card transactions at casinos, liquor stores, etc.) the holder of the card just goes to a bank ATM instead before going to the liquor store or casino. There are really just too many ATM’s out there to try to limit their use. One on every corner.

Folks are folks. Some are responsible and some are not. Welfare recipients who use their benefits to gamble are not different from an absent parent who gambles away what he should be paying in child support.

joan

June 25th, 2010
2:14 pm

Sue: If you are a cashier allowing them to buy gum, and other crap with welfare money, shame on you. About those kids who didn’t choose their parents, they didn’t, but I would have had them aborted because the law of averages says they are going to be a net drain on the world all their lives.

x-usaf(ss)

June 25th, 2010
2:25 pm

If the USA would pay its just debts and give $1M in reparations to every black man woman and
child and every native american man woman and child welfare would only be a memory.

EverybodyLovesRaymond

June 25th, 2010
2:58 pm

joan, so if anyone on any government assistance gets pregnant, they’re forced to get an abortion with no say in the matter?

Jefferson

June 25th, 2010
3:51 pm

Don’t give debit cards or food stamps, give the hungry a meal.

Dusty

June 25th, 2010
4:58 pm

Well, it’s a shame. Those poor starving children of California ! I believe the government if going to start an Obesity Program to help them out. Seems they are starving all over the USA. Just skin and bones and several hundred pounds of fat! Yes, free cake for the starving children.

joan

June 25th, 2010
7:56 pm

Hey, I am entitled to feel what I like about the people I am forced to support with my hard earned money. I respect people who stand on their own two feet. About abortions–sure, if you can’t afford a kid, and can’t keep your legs together, you would be doing the kid and the country a favor to just abort it. And anyone on welfare already with a couple of kids should have to be sterilized to qualify for further welfare. I mean, why is it I have to work for a living, and these people have absolutely no responsibility for their lives? Why shouldn’t they have to give up something to keep leeching?

Ayn Rand was right

June 26th, 2010
12:02 am

@everybody loves raymond….seriously.s..your argument is that we are not considering the children…their own parents are using the welfare in a casino. I am guessing that this money is not being spent at the all night buffet to feed the chillens.

Welfare should be like the military PX – go get what you need, as the government deems appropriate for your consumption.

david wayne osedach

June 26th, 2010
7:25 am

Schwarzenegger is leaving his position of Governor of California with his tail between his legs. Not like he wistfully thought: running for President.

J.B. STONER

June 26th, 2010
9:07 am

I’LL BE BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No More Progressives!

June 26th, 2010
2:27 pm

david wayne osedach

June 26th, 2010
7:25 am
Schwarzenegger is leaving his position of Governor of California with his tail between his legs. Not like he wistfully thought: running for President.

Arnold cannot run for President of the US. He was born in Austria.

You’re right about the tail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger

No More Progressives!

June 26th, 2010
2:30 pm

x-usaf(ss)

June 25th, 2010
2:25 pm
If the USA would pay its just debts and give $1M in reparations to every black man woman and
child and every native american man woman and child welfare would only be a memory.

If a frog had wings he woudln’t bump his butt when he jumped.

Ponder

June 26th, 2010
2:45 pm

If anyone cares to see welfare abuse spend some time at Kroger on Memorial Drive. A few weeks back I was behind a woman in checkout (off course she had typical Decatur hair and nails). This woman was drinking a bottle of tea which, when empty, she placed off to the side of the grocery belt. The cashier asked the woman if she (the cashier) needed to ring up the bottle of tea, to which the woman told the cashier it was not her bottle. Naturally I told the cashier that yes, it was the woman’s bottle. Now the woman begins calling me every name in the book. The cashier called the manager who simply told the cashier to “forget it”. Now the fun begins — the women had name brand products, desserts, and red meats(a much better selection than I) and, of course paid for it with what appeared to be a food stamp debit type of card. So, I finish checking out (paid with a credit card) and proceed out to my car in the parking lot. Who should appear but the woman in her Escalade and proceeds to tell me to mind my own business…

I could only assume this woman (term used loosely) likely also has a cell phone, flat screen at home, etc….

Long story short — I’m disgusted with the entitlement expecting generational government dependents!!!!

J.B. STONER

June 26th, 2010
7:34 pm

I agree with Ponder. should have shot her tail……..

No More Progressives!

June 27th, 2010
7:16 am

Long story short — I’m disgusted with the entitlement expecting generational government dependents!!!!

Absolutley. I live in a little town in West GA, and it’s the same here. Unemployment is high, wages are not the best, and yet there is a certain faction of the population the drives Lincoln Navigators & constantly talks on the cell phone while they’re in line at the post office buying money orders to pay bills.

I have to pee in a cup to maintain employment. I want ALL public assistance recipients to have to go through the same process; you flunk a drug test, you forfeit any benefits. Period.

J.B. STONER

June 27th, 2010
8:41 am

NO MORE IS DEAD ON………..

I TRIED TO TELL YOU FOR YEARS TO STOP THE FREE-BIES.

YOU LET EM LAY AROUND AND MASS REPRODUCE, SMOKE THEIR CRACK, DRINK THEIR MALT LIQUER, GIVE EM FOOD STAMPS, STAY UP ALL NIGHT, COMPLAIN , ELECT A NO-NOTHING PRESIDENT, SAY HE IS THE BEST..

IT’S ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN AND DON’T LOOK AROUND AND SAY “WHAT HAPPENED?”

IT’S BEEN UNFOLDING BEFORE YOUR EYES ALL ALONG……………..

Mike

June 27th, 2010
12:30 pm

Well of course they’re gambling with the free money. I would bet they are using it for cigarettes and alcohol as well As Neal Boortz is fond of saying ” The reason the rich keep getting richer is because they keep doing the same things that got them rich in the first place. Ditto for the poor”.

J.B. STONER

June 27th, 2010
5:34 pm

AND GAMBLING, I FORGOT THAT ONE!!!!!!!!!

LET’S PLAY THE BUG!!

ROLL SOME DICE…. PLAY SPADES… GO TO BELUXI…..

Sky

July 7th, 2010
6:39 pm

I JUST WISH THAT ALL THE STATES WOULD GET ON BOARD WITH ARIZONA ON THE ILLEGAL POPULATION. THEY WON’T LEARN ENGLISH, BUT WE ARE EXPECTED TO LEARN SPANISH TO HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS OR TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT, WHEN WE CAN’T EVEN FEED THE PEOPLE HERE ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE MIDDLE AGED, LOST THEIR JOBS AND UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS RUNNING OUT. AS FOR THE WOMAN WITH 2 KIDS AND PREGNANT AGAIN, I FIRMLY BELIEVE 2 KIDS IS ALL WE SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE MONEY FOR. SURGICAL STERILIZATION WOULD STOP THIS HAVE ANOTHER KID AND WE WILL GET MORE MONEY. EVERY STATE IS GOING THROUGH THAT AS WELL AS ILLEGALS BRINGING THEIR WHOLE FAMILIES HERE FOR US TO GIVE THEM HANDOUTS. THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO HE!! IN A HANDBASKET, WE ARE GETTING OUR SOLDIERS KILLED EVERY DAY AND FOR WHAT???? IT WAS BUSH/CHENEY’S WAR BUT THE DEMOCRATS WENT ALONG WITH THEM ON ALL OF IT. I SAY PUT CHENEY’S DAUGHTER AND HER WIFE OR WHATEVER AND THE BUSH GIRLS IN AND LET THEM SERVE IN THE DESERT, SEE HOW THEY LIKE THOSE BOMBS AND SHELLS HITTING ALL AROUND THEM…..AND WHOA THE QUEEN CAME OUT, GEE WONDER IF THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRITISH PETROLEUM RUNNING MOST OF THE SOUTHERN STATES????? SKY