Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

Thousands of census workers, including many temporary employees, are fanning out across America to gather information on the citizenry.  This is a process that takes place not only every decade in order to complete the constitutionally-mandated census; but also as part of the continuing “American Community Survey” conducted by the Census Bureau on a regular basis year in and year out.

What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.”  If the landlord of such apartment or other  leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.

That’s right — not only can citizens be fined if they fail to answer the increasingly intrusive questions asked of them by the federal government under the guise of simply counting the number of people in the country; but a landlord must give them access to your apartment whether you’re there or not, in order to gather whatever “statistics” the law permits.

In fact, some census workers apparently are going even further and demanding — and receiving — private cell phone numbers from landlords in order to call tenants and obtain information from them.  Isn’t it great to live in a “free” country?

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Greg in the Highlands

May 26th, 2010
6:37 am

And when they take any money, jewelery or credit cards lying about, you have no recourse. You have to PROVE they did it. If I weren’t taxed, feed, and surcharged to keep me under government control, I’d have enough money to leave this “FREE” country.

Bob

May 26th, 2010
6:40 am

But Bob, according to the commercials, the country would come to a stand still if gov does not know who to pass the money around to. Isn’t that more important than civil liberties ?

nelsonhoward

May 26th, 2010
6:40 am

You are soooooo right again Bob. It is obvious, the census worker is encroaching on our fundamental right,”Freedom Of Privacy.” A coupla of days ago the census worker came to my house, very pleasnt young girl. She said she had only a few questions to ask and I said sure come on in. During the questioning she asked my age and I told her and she said I looked much younger than that. I thanked her for that flattering comment. Now, if she had asked me how much money I had, we would probably be in a relationship now. But, let us get back to the “Freedom of Privacy”, when the landlord let the census worker in without the permission of the tenant, that is “constructive seizure of the apartment” when the landlord “pops” in at any time that is tatamount to “constructive eviction” of the tenant. Not good, and being threatened with a $500.00 fine besides, that is conspiracy. We have to have rights, that is part of the Constitution of the United States.

Jim in Ga

May 26th, 2010
7:19 am

Greg in the Highlands,

I remember watching 20/20 or something along those lines about nannies or housecleaners stealing and it was entraptment if it was just lying about and it had to be in a drawer or hidden away for it to be considered stolen. That just makes it even harder if they do come and and take something.

Byron Mathison Kerr

May 26th, 2010
7:23 am

Scary! Good incentive to take those few moments to fill out that simple census form.

Keep up the good fight!

May 26th, 2010
7:24 am

Bob you dont cite the law itself. I suspect however that your interpretation is overstated. The purpose is to allow census workers into “private” gated communities such as the one in Miami that denied access to all census workers. The intent and I suspect the wording does not provide entry into the actual rental units but rather into the rental or gated community.

E Masters

May 26th, 2010
7:28 am

This is a pretty liberal reading of the code! The relevant language is at Title 13, Chapter 7, Subchapter II, § 223 of the US Code. The section prevents the owner or manger of “any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building” from refusing to provide a list of the buildings occupants or providing access to “such premises”. This means a building’s owner or manger cannot refuse to let a census worker into or out of the building and cannot refuse to provide a list of occupants for the purpose of the census count. The penalty for refusal is $500. No where in the section does it authorize entry into individual apartments, lodgings, or “living quarters”.
The relevant code section is found at: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Not on my watch

May 26th, 2010
7:34 am

Oh man, I should’ve applied for a census job!

(in the background plays The Kinks, “paranoia will destroy ya…..”

Keep up the good fight!

May 26th, 2010
7:37 am

Thanks Masters! That is exactly what I thought. More fear-mongering by Barr.

Census workers do not ask to enter the home and do not “force” their way into actual homes. From the Census FAQ: If you are not at home, the census taker will make up to two return visits to try to reach you at home, and will leave a callback notice with information on how you can contact them to either schedule a visit for the interview, or provide the information on the phone. In some cases, the census taker might ask your neighbor for the best time to reach you at home, or if they could provide a telephone number for you.

jconservative

May 26th, 2010
7:45 am

I found the Census form to be surprisingly unintrusive. Say in comparison to trying to buy a CD at a bank where they virtually want to count the hairs in my nose.

Steve Smith

May 26th, 2010
7:51 am

The title of this piece is blatantly false to the best of my knowledge. Mr. Barr is pretty careful to use access, but not entry. Does the AJC know this?

Not on my watch

May 26th, 2010
7:53 am

I don’t remember if I mentioned this in this forum or somewhere else, but it bears repeating.

It’s amazing to me how so many people claim our givernment is inept, while at the same time beleiving they are behind a massive well-run conspiracy!

Barr's blog

May 26th, 2010
7:54 am

The only defense against the Census Workers is to take a road trip on a donkey and escape into Egypt.

Tracy

May 26th, 2010
8:29 am

Well, I’ve been working with the census this year and this is clearly false.

Maybe there is some high up rule giving census workers this ability, but it is NOT one I was trained to do. As a last resort I go to the landlord and they tell me how many people’s name is on the lease or listed as residents there. That’s it. Never have I been told to ever enter any residence.

As a general rule I really respect your blogs Barr, but in this case I can’t help but feel you’re feeding some kind of paranoia over the census.

Eric

May 26th, 2010
8:57 am

jconservative: The census form WAS instrusive. It asked not only for a head count, but also the relationship of individuals in the house to the owner. That may sound harmless, but that is irrelevant to counting. Who know how that information will eventually be used–shared with insurance companies, etc.

Junior Samples

May 26th, 2010
9:55 am

Bob’s simply paranoid.

Rick

May 26th, 2010
9:56 am

Mr. Barr is obviously just trying to stir people up with his blatantly false interpretation of the policies. The Census Bureau policies are very clear, as some have already pointed out. I am a manager with a local census office and am very familiar with the rules. Appartment building owners are required to give access to their BUILDINGS. Census workers are not allowed to enter apartments or houses – they are to interview people at the door, to protect the integrity of the process, and the privacy of citizens. Mr. Barr should check reliable sources before spreading false information.

Sky'sFallingAgainBob

May 26th, 2010
10:14 am

Hey Impeachable Bob, thanks for some more “sky is falling” drivel. Would you rather we not know how many people are living in this country? Get back under your rock.

M Percy

May 26th, 2010
10:30 am

I was pretty mad about the missing question on the form, the one that asks about citizenship. Since the primary Constitutional purpose for the census is to apportion representation, it seems that California may get an extra representative just for the illegal aliens. How about only giving a House seat to represent citizens (and possibly legal residents)?

Monroe Burbank

May 26th, 2010
10:35 am

Yeah, and they can also demand that conservatives stop being a bunch of paranoid nutjobs. That doesn’t work, either.

Fox News consistently uses half-truths to stir up the ignorant conservative masses, exactly what Barr does here.

drake

May 26th, 2010
11:15 am

Bob…jeso this is low even for you. My wife is a census taker and we don’t need selfish moron-mongers like you titillating the masses with any more reasons for false resentment. This is not Rep or Dem–this is just dangerously inaccurate.

Real Athens

May 26th, 2010
11:49 am

Bob,

You can’t have it both ways. You like privacy and freedom to not answer questions concerning the census — a Constitutionally mandated head count around since the days of George Washington.

However, in the Roe v. Wade decision (that you fervently denounce at every turn) that held a woman, with her doctor, could choose abortion in earlier months of pregnancy without restriction, and with restrictions in later months, based on the right to privacy

Unless, of course the right to privacy applies to you: As when your ex-wife Gail wanted an abortion in 1983 and you acquiesced and even paid for it.

It is so easy to beat you hypocrites like a drum.

Al Gore

May 26th, 2010
11:55 am

When I invented the Census, I intended for everyone to be accounted for. The census workers are honest people. Trust me…has anyone seen the keys to my new jet?

Cynthia Tucker, obozos other old lady.

May 26th, 2010
11:56 am

Hey Rick, I sent one of your morons packing yesterday. Perhaps you should train them in English better, She kept asking questions on the form and I kept answering 4 people live here. She just kept getting flustered and then said, Maybe you can help out the school system, how many underage children live here. At that point she was informed two things, one was that the only way to help the school system was to get government out and two was to get the hell off of my property. I told her as she got into her rusty junker, tell obozo anything more than the number of people living here was none of his business. Looking forward to the next visit, maybe it’ll be some johnny badass next time.

Ed Graham

May 26th, 2010
12:01 pm

The purpose of a census is to COUNT the number of PEOPLE. That’s all that they need to know. As I live alone, I indicated “one”, and wrote in red ink across the questionaire that that was all they were getting from me. My color, religion, sex, income, number of bedrooms and bathrooms in my home, whether I own or rent, etc, is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. If we’re all supposed to be equal under the law, then all of that superfluous information is not needed.

Alan

May 26th, 2010
12:06 pm

I assume that if you are on this blog you can read. E Maters, Rick and others, did you not read the actual code with the link you provided? It clearly states that the census workers have the right to enter the buildings. No where does it say anything about a doorway, etc. How can you have an opinion when you don’t even read the facts. Bob is correct in his statements. Is he stirring it up? That’s his job. Why would he write about something that no one cares about.

Peter Haskett

May 26th, 2010
12:22 pm

Bob, why do you hate the Constitution? Census taking is an enumerated federal power to insure that there is proportional representation. “If you’ve got nothing to hide then you’ve got nothing to worry about.” – Joe Rightwing, when justifying the Patriot act.

AHannah

May 26th, 2010
1:11 pm

if they have the balls & spine to enter my house where my 120-lb police-trained German Shepherd lives – then enter at your own risk. We are locked and loaded for these ACORN thugs! There are over a dozen reports around the US of the Census hiring pedophiles, convicted rapists, and illegals who are forcing their way into homes and raping women in the home.
The 2nd Amendment applies before the 4th — if you enter my home, without my permission – good luck! I would especially love it if you do work for ACORN, SEIU, the black panthers, or the other thug groups OPovertyPimpDaddy pays!

Rational Person

May 26th, 2010
1:17 pm

… the increasingly intrusive questions asked of them by the federal government …

Bob, were you born yesterday? The census asks hardly anything compared to what it asked 50 or 100 years ago. There used to be questions like “Are you a pauper?” or “Is there a feebleminded person in the house?” Now all they ask is whether you exist.

Horace the Hefty

May 26th, 2010
1:29 pm

Silly me! I was under the impression that if you completed and mailed back the census form, you wouldn’t get a visit. So I promptly completed it and mailed it back.

On Friday, when I got home, taped to the front door was a “Sorry I missed you” form from a census worker. Are some people who complete and return the form chosen for more detailed questions?

FeelingEmpowered?

May 26th, 2010
2:05 pm

To Ed Graham at 12:01 pm, think I will sidle up next to you and feel the sense of empowerment flowing through your body, having boldly taken matters into your own hands by not answering those intrusive census questions. By the way, the census people will be back. Find another way to empower yourself without breaking the law.

MiketheUGAAlum

May 26th, 2010
2:23 pm

I doubt they actually enter any apartments. What a scare-essay this is.

Bob, shave thar barbershop mustache. The 1890s are over.

Barr's blog

May 26th, 2010
2:28 pm

I think this board has reached a consensus about the census: it has incensed us because when you look for victims, they are, in a sense, us. Barr is right to expose this senseless abuse of big government.

Rita

May 26th, 2010
3:34 pm

Dear Cynthia Tucker, obozos other old lady.

11:56 am

“Hey Rick, I sent one of your morons packing yesterday…”

It might make you feel all manly and stuff to fantasize so pathetically, but no, you didn’t. You’re a liar.

WTF

May 26th, 2010
3:41 pm

Barr and his ilk need to crawl back under their rock

Rita

May 26th, 2010
3:42 pm

AHannah (”We are locked and loaded for these ACORN thugs! “).

If I see a toothless, tea-partying, Sarah Palin-worshipping cretin on MY porch trying to get in my house without my permission, remember this: EVERYBODY in America packs heat, Liberals, too!

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 26th, 2010
4:21 pm

My own experience:

Filled out my form a couple days after I got it and sent it in. Weeks later I get a visit from a census taker (very polite and professional, by the way). I told them I’d already sent the form in and turns out that weren’t wanting to talk to me but to whoever lived in the nearby vacant house. So, I told them that nobody lived there. They said ok and asked my name which I gave them and then asked for my phone number. I said, “Nobody is getting my phone number”. They said okay, they understood and went on their merry way.

Cynthia Tucker, obozos other old lady.

May 26th, 2010
4:36 pm

rita, you poor pathetic obamanite, still upset about losing acorn funding huh? Sorry to hurt your bedwetting feelings but yeah I did. She received the answer mandated by the Constitution, at least what’s left of it now that homie has been wiping his butt with it for 17 months. Oh well 31 months til we send him and his family back to the rock they crawled out from under. Then he can go back to his racist church with brother wright.

NoPhoneNumberFromThisHillbilly

May 26th, 2010
6:22 pm

To Hillbilly Deluxe at 4:21 pm. Such mountain oysters you have, not giving a phone number and all. Shazamm!

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Bill Dilworth

May 27th, 2010
6:46 am

The questions on the census – like asking the relationship of the people in the residence – is somehow intrusive and proof of creeping totalitarianism? I’ve been looking at census forms from the past as part of tracing my family’s genealogy, and questions about relationships, race, etc. have been part of the census for a long time. They also used to ask questions about employment.

Barr's blog

May 27th, 2010
7:30 am

Bob is ……CORRECT! If Census workers can just walk into a home uninvited, then whats to stop the Hari Krishnas and the Jehovah’s Witnesses from doing the same? Or the Girl Scouts and their cookies!

Our homes will be turned into Grand Central Station!! Duct Tape your homes shut people. Remember when Bush’s response to 911 was to duct tape homes against bio-attacks? Well, looks like he was…….. RIGHT!!

Jim Howard

May 27th, 2010
8:01 am

I worked during the 2000 census in Missouri and this is the FIRST I heard about this. I never heard of this happening. Has anyone else every heard of a census working forcing his way into a home or apartment?
Now yes the law does require people to give census information. I never heard of anyone fined for failing to do so.
“increasingly intrusive questions” WHAT intrusive questions? It is ten simple questions.
Our founding fathers put it in the Constitution of the United States! There is not very much they put in that document. But they demanded a census each ten years and it has been taking place since our founding.
Jim
http://www.showmeblog.com

iRun

May 27th, 2010
8:04 am

My house was built in 1925 so it first showed up in the 1930 census. I confirmed what I already believed, that my house was built as a duplex (up/down) and not chopped into one at a later date. However, I learned that my part of town (Atlanta, DeKalb Co) is Ward 9. It was the 499th family visited by that census taker and the 352nd family.

I learned that it was owned by Alonzo J Hollingsworth, who worked as a mail clerk for a railway company. He and his family live in the apartment that my husband, son, and I live in. Now, this is a 1100-1200 sqft apartment and we feel a little cramped in there with the 3 of us.

But Mr Hollingsworth, age 60, lived in that same space with his 43 year-old wife Frances C (they were 43 and 26 when they married, so they were on 20 years at this point), his two daughters Frances A and Margaret (ages 13 and 10, repectively), AND his widowed mother-in-law Etta Clark, age 77. They were all W(hite) and they were all literate. So, a family of FIVE lived in my 1100sqft apartment!

I also learned he paid $15,000 for the property, which was kind of a lot for that time. Especially since in the tax record of my property someone bought it for $30,000 in the late 70s (in contrast, I paid $400,000 for it – good school district).

I learned that Mr Hollingsworth was Georgia-born, as were his parents. Frances C Hollingsworth, his wife, was originally from Minnesota. Her father was from Vermont and her mother who was living with them, Etta Clark, was from Wisconsin, though HER parents were from New York and England.

The entire family spoke English.

Lastly, I learned that he rented out the upstairs apartment to 34-year-old Douglas M Horne and his 34-year-old wife Ruth for $60/mo., who at that point were married 10 years. Mr Horne was a special agent for an office equipment company.

So, see, 80 years later, these people are still alive in a way because of the census. I think that’s cool. I hope in 80 years my house is owned by a family (by then we’ll have converted it to a single-family home) and they will have a neat little record.

I really need to go get other census records for my house to see how long the Hollingsworth family stayed there and who else owned or rented it before we did.

Stacy, U.S. Census Bureau

May 27th, 2010
8:30 am

To clarify, we specifically instruct census takers never to ask to enter a resident’s home. We certainly would not allow them try to enter a home if the residents are not even present.
The law does require the cooperation of building managers and gated communities to allow us to enter the building or neighborhood to conduct the census and other surveys. The Constitution mandates a count of everyone, including people living in these situations.
Regarding the “increasingly intrusive” questions, the 2010 Census is actually one of the shortest in U.S. history and the questions asked are very similar to the ones written by James Madison for the first census in 1790.
More information about census takers: http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/preparing.php
More on the census in the Constitution: http://2010.census.gov/2010census/why/constitutional.php

Edward

May 27th, 2010
8:40 am

So Mr. Barr can tell blatant lies in a published column and get away with it. Bravo! I’m sure he’s proud.

Mary

May 27th, 2010
8:49 am

How can such lies be published and believed? Apartment complexes cannot deny census workers access to the property (in case there are no soliciting signs or locked gate), but NO ONE in the census can demand access into anyone’s apartment or home. If people invite census workers into their homes to complete the census, the workers are encouraged to say, “I’m sorry, but I’m not allowed to come in.” So is Barr mentally disabled, really stupid or pandering to the anti-government tea bag movement?

Rational Person

May 27th, 2010
8:54 am

From today’s Washington Post:

Census takers targeted 113 times this month

Updated 8:18 a.m. ET
More than 113 census takers have been the victims of assaults or attacks this month, the U.S. Census Bureau said late Wednesday.

In response to inquiries by Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), Census Director Robert Groves said the bureau’s temporary workers knocking on doors to collect information have faced 29 threats involving a gun, four robberies and three instances of being held against their will or carjacked. Seven workers died in car accidents and one was killed while off duty.

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Bob, could you please quit feeding the hatred? These are just people trying to scratch out a living, doing their constitutionally mandated job.

A real life census worker.

May 27th, 2010
9:41 am

IMHO, there are so many misleading statements in this short article I really don’t know where to start debunking it. First my credentials. I am a real life Census worker. And also note, that I am NOT a some life long gooberment worker. I have spent over 30 years working in the private sector, and only 1 month as a gooberment employee, so I am by no means a gooberment shill. Also note that what I am about to tell you are NOT to be taken as official Census statements. This is just my personal experience as a Census worker and nothing more.

I went through the standardized Census training, and none of us were ever told we had the right, or should/could enter some ones residence WITHOUT their permission, (period. end of discussion)! As a matter of fact they don’t even want us to open a storm door, that has a locked door behind it, so we can stick our notice of visit in the door jam so it doesn’t blow away. We are also told NOT to even LOOK in windows to see if the house is occupied or not.

As far as fines go, yes there is a statute that says you can be fined if you do not supply census information but as far as I know, and researched on my own, it is NOT enforced. As a Census worker, I have no way of giving out fines because I am NOT a law enforcement worker. We only rely on peoples sense of “civic duty” for compliance, and we all know how far that goes with some people.

We were never told we could/should “demand phone numbers” from landlords. The easiest way to get some ones phone number is to go out to the PRIVATELY run website whitepages.com and do a reverse address lookup and get the phone number that way.

Also one word of caution if you are called by a census worker asking if a house is empty. They should only be asking what the status of the residence was on April 1, 2010. If they call and ask if a house is empty now, or how many people live there NOW then there is a VERY good chance that this is not a real census worker.

One person here complained about being asked the ages of children. One reason this info is useful is for deciding on the size or number of schools needed. Should a locality experience a sudden increase in school age children they could find themselves short on classrooms for the kiddies. Of course because the census is only done every 10 years, and it only takes 4 or 5 years for a kid to become school age, a population spike could still be missed, but it is better than nothing.

In my personal experience 98% of the people I have visited were very polite and reasonable, which makes the very few that “know their constitutional rights” and refuse to cooperate look even more silly.

So those are the facts, but I have been on this planet long enough to know that there is a certain percentage of the population will NEVER let FACTS get in the way of their BELIEFS. So carry on, I know nothing I wrote here will bring true believers around, but I figured I should at least try.

Also on a personal note, IMHO, after reading this article, Bob Barr has lost ALL credibility with me. I wonder what his real purpose was to publish such an article with statements, which to me as an informed reader, appear to be quite misleading?

Jeff

May 27th, 2010
10:22 am

and the instrusive question is… are you living here and what race are you. Gee, I feel s violated.

Barr's blog

May 27th, 2010
10:27 am

It is highly unlikely that Barr lied or made up the examples of census abuse above.

iseethelite

May 27th, 2010
11:02 am

How long has this been law? Didn’t you used to be a U.S. Congressman?

mrs. w

May 27th, 2010
11:38 am

They also showed up at my house one Saturday a couple of weeks ago and I too had already sent my form in. What a waste of tax payer money – the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. When informed that we had already met our government obligation they began to question us about one of our neighbors. What was up with that??

D. Henderson

May 27th, 2010
12:09 pm

This is the least obtrusive census in years and I find nothing objectionable to it at all. Your attempts to “paint” the census employees as government goons is very repulsive and highly objectionable. Most of these employees are just thankful to have some money coming in for as long as the census work lasts. Nuts to you and your scare tactics…….

A real life census worker.

May 27th, 2010
12:37 pm

“It is highly unlikely that Barr lied or made up the examples of census abuse above.”

Someone can quite easily mislead without lying or making things up. All one needs to do is to word statements carefully, and throw in a few strawman analogies and you have mislead without having to out an out lie about a subject. Politicians do it ALL the time.

For example take this statement; “That’s right — not only can citizens be fined if they fail to answer the increasingly intrusive questions…” While technically a true statement, it is misleading because the Census Bureau fined no one in the last Census, and has no plans to fine anyone this time around either.

Now lets take this statement: “In fact, some census workers apparently are going even further and demanding — and receiving, private cell phone numbers”. One of the definitions of “apparently is: “appearing as such but not necessarily so”. So by his own words Mr. Barr is saying maybe this is true, but then again maybe its not.

Now how exactly can a Census worker “demand” anything from anybody. They can ask for phone numbers, but how can they “demand” one from someone? A census worker asks you for your phone number, you say no. Does that mean that the two of you start mud wrestling? Now COULD a Census worker push for information beyond what they were trained to do? Sure it is possible but that is NOT what they were trained to do. But again remember Mr. Barr never says this is ACTUALLY true, but only apparently is.

And finally: “If the landlord of such apartment or other leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.” Again technically true in a way. A gated community is not supposed to stop a census worker from accessing the buildings inside that gated community. But the way this is worded it could/would lead some one to think that the landlord must allow a Census worker INTO your living quarters, even when you are NOT there.

Which only begs the question, if a Census workers job is to count people, why on Earth would they want access to an empty apartment or other living quarters? I really hope no one here is gullible enough to think that Census workers are allowed by law to rummage around your living quarters looking for your personal info to fill out a Census form! Please, please, please tell me it aint so!

But anyway, my hats off to a true politician, who is quite a master at linguistic slight of hand!

Mickey

May 27th, 2010
12:41 pm

My doggy has been trained to tear your balls off if you come into my house while I’m not home.

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Nathan R. Jessup

May 27th, 2010
12:58 pm

Startling. Thank you for the story.

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NRJ

Maticus

May 27th, 2010
1:06 pm

No, no, no…That’s not how it works. The mandate to allow access is not for entry into a person’s apartment but to gain access to locked or gated communities. High rise apartments that have key coded entries, suburban developments that have a guard posted at the entry gates…places like that. No Census taker will ever enter a living quarter unless the resident is there to respond to the questionnaire. Don’t cry wolf just to get attention…know the facts.

Lito

May 27th, 2010
1:16 pm

Having worked for the Census last month, I can state that this “info” is bogus, utter nonsense. Paranoid balderdash.

Kevin

May 27th, 2010
3:25 pm

I love all the big brother apologist comments. Keep it up sheeple!

Brian

May 27th, 2010
3:30 pm

Yeah, sure. Any census worker can walk into your home, shoot your dog, arrest you, and ship you off to one of those FEMA labor camps. This is exactly the sort of misinformation that makes people with legitimate concerns about federal overreach look like crazy John Birchers. I’m sure the fed was just itching to bestow draconian authority on college kids looking for part time work. Bob, you’re an idiot.

Lilly

May 27th, 2010
4:55 pm

The secret is wear tinfoil on your head. Then the gubment census rays can’t get you! Go libertarians! Cook up more conspiracies to be scared of! It keeps you busy and out of the way not winning elections. Thanks

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David

May 27th, 2010
5:55 pm

While I agree with Barr on many of his points, as a genealogist, the 2010 census is far less “intrusive” than those of the past. I was really surprised actually. Having said that, the unConstitutional American LIfe Survey is very intrusive and I would simply put on a blindfold and fill in the questions!! :) The problem with the Census count is that the Constitution gives Congress very broad latitude on how it collects the info and what info. It really doesn’t have any limits, unfortunately.

Ralph

May 27th, 2010
5:57 pm

I’m working as a Census counter (enumerator, they call it). During our training, we were told we were strictly forbidden to enter anyone’s home, even if invited. We are specifically instructed to interview the person either through the doorway or out of the home entirely. That’s the truth. I don’t know what the law says, but that’s the way we were trained. Sorry to put cold water on your case. What I’ve written is true.

John

May 27th, 2010
6:00 pm

All they need to know is how many. Why should they know what race I am or if i rent or own?
Maybe they should expand the questions to include: How many dumps do you take a day?…
How many times do you masturbate a day?..How often do you pick your nose?…How many
times do you drop the FBomb a day? ..or, Can you provide us with a stool sample to prove
that you exist?….They could show up at your door with a pooper scooper. They can give you
extra credit, and put in a good word for you with the president, if you supply them with your
stool already wrapped in a leak proof container or plastic bag.

Mark

May 27th, 2010
6:01 pm

The Gosh Darn pigs enable this swill. May they rot in Heck for what they’ve done to this country!

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No-way-Obama

May 27th, 2010
6:04 pm

Enter without my permission, leave in a body bag

Jesus

May 27th, 2010
6:06 pm

No problem, I filled out my census, told them that I have 15 Illegal Mexicans, 6 Russians, & 5 Cubans in the apartment… I’m just trying to fulfill my obligations while getting as much money and voter representation that I can for my District and State…. Do you think 26 people was to little or too much? Smith & Wesson lives at my house, just try to get in!

BK in OK

May 27th, 2010
6:06 pm

I had one of those Community Survey people show up at my place a couple months ago and I flat out ran her off. She told me that she was required to return and gather the information that the survey wants and I told her that she was wasting her time and she could come as many times as she liked. She left empty handed and has not returned. Stand up to this tyranny. Don’t bow down to them.

KW

May 27th, 2010
6:07 pm

Funny how those that say Bob is crying “the sky is falling” are the same ones that think the Arizona police will profile, though the law does not allow it.

Betray

May 27th, 2010
6:07 pm

Come on in Census Worker if I don’t answer the door, I’ll introduce you to Mr. Remington.

A census worker has already vitisted me, and said I didn’t answer all the questions. I said I answered that two people live in my home, and I volunteered that were are both Amercian. I told him I didn’t have to answer any further questions, he told me that I was correct and then politely left.

jb

May 27th, 2010
6:08 pm

If I’m not home, please go around back and come in the dog door. My Great Danes would love to have company for dinner.

Lou

May 27th, 2010
6:08 pm

They are in for a big surprise if they try to enter my house or a family member. I have had enough of this administration. I will fight again for my freedom.

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Postman

May 27th, 2010
6:10 pm

The postal service could count everyone in one day. They already know everyone.

jsc

May 27th, 2010
6:10 pm

Hey, anything to pad the numbers…

ran roddeb

May 27th, 2010
6:11 pm

Census information is held confidential for 72 years.Information from 1930 and prior censuses is available on-line. If you check the information you will find virtually the same info that’s asked on the current census. I don’t think ACORN was around then so maybe some of you people should be a little less papanoid.

Hmmm

May 27th, 2010
6:12 pm

Oddly written article….

tom swift

May 27th, 2010
6:12 pm

This is pretty weird. I’ve received no census forms and not been visited by anyone. From where I’m sitting, the census isn’t so much intrusive as totally undetectable. What’s going on? Are the Feds really so incompetent that they can’t find a citizen who’s lived at the same address outside Boston for thirty years? I filled out the last census form I was sent, a decade ago, without any excitement. Is the problem that the White House has taken it over, and can’t figure out how it’s done? Bizarre.

BAB

May 27th, 2010
6:14 pm

I guess if you don’t want them in your house/apartment. You could have filled out and mailed in the Forms that were sent to you

Loesje Shema

May 27th, 2010
6:14 pm

I, too, have a temporary job as a Census enumerator. In all of our training, not once were we told we were able to demand access to anyone’s home. If no one is there, we leave our notice and try to follow up by phone. We are told to be at all times respectful and tactful, and to back off if someone is upset or agitated. I have asked neighbors about someone, but only after trying to reach the person myself by phone and a visit. In those cases I say “I’ve been having trouble getting hold of the people living at (address). Do you know if anyone is living there, or what a good time to reach them would be?” At the bare minimum, all we need is the number of people staying at an address on Census Day (April 1). Any other information, such as age and race, is gravy.

The guy who wrote this is a flaming idiot to spread such lies.

Scrapiron

May 27th, 2010
6:15 pm

If I come home and find someone inside the landlord better be standing in front of them because without hesitation gunfire, at least 10 rounds, will errupt. The address and number of people residing there is all they need and will get. Piss on O’Dumbo and his Marxist sharks.

CallMeIshmael

May 27th, 2010
6:16 pm

nelsonhoward:

“When the landlord letz the census worker in without the permission of the tenant, that is “constructive suicide.”

KillSeanPenn

May 27th, 2010
6:17 pm

They look so good with a bul@$! between the eyes

E Vattal

May 27th, 2010
6:18 pm

And someone born a British Subject can’t sign a US bill into law either.

STEPHEN KNORR

May 27th, 2010
6:19 pm

COme thru my door thinking im ther an they would be dead with a bullet in thier head

DEE DEE

May 27th, 2010
6:19 pm

I just have two words for any individual who makes an attempt to enter my HOME… “TRY IT”
this is not what was originally told to americans..we were told that census workers were not allowed to enter your home…. This is going to cause a stir..and if indeed someone gets the idea to enter someones home, There will be Injuries.. What are they thinking???!!!

Matt

May 27th, 2010
6:21 pm

I was walking into a friends apartment complex and some creepy guy was asking if I would let him in. He said, “oh, I’m with the Census no one will care.” he showed me something that a 10 year old could whip up in photoshop as credentials. How do you really know someone is or is not from the Census? Its not like they have a cop car and badge to at least give you some idea they are legit. What a crock, and it puts people at danger.

Stanley

May 27th, 2010
6:23 pm

A little conflicting information and constitutional rights here. We also have a right to have a gun and protect our property. It would be crazy for someone to enter anothers property and not expect possible ramifications.

TFar

May 27th, 2010
6:25 pm

Please state your sources for this information, Mr Barr. I don’t believe that this information is correct. When you make such outrageous claims, you should automatically state your sources if you want to be believed.

True Conservative

May 27th, 2010
6:25 pm

Bob, either you’re an idiot who cannot understand the law or you’re intentionally lying to stir up web hits. Those are the only two options.

No census employee has access to your home or apartment when you’re not there, and to be there when you’re not there defeats the entire point of their job, to have someone present at the home to answer census questions.

All you’re doing is trying to rabble rouse people too stupid to actually read the law of their own accord, and this is coming from someone who would have voted Bush for a third term.

Brad

May 27th, 2010
6:26 pm

While I often agree with Barr, this story is crazy. I am a temporary census worker who knocks on doors and went through the training. While I could tell you tales of waste and inefficiency that would curl your hair, census workers are not told that they can enter anybody’s residence. In fact, we are encouraged to stay outside even if you are home and invite us in. No census worker with any sanity would attempt to enter an empty residence. I am not in the habit of defending the government, which I generally despise, but it must be said also that the census questions that we are asking are pretty innocuous. How many people? Male or female? Age on Census Day and birth date, are you Hispanic? Race? Do you own or rent, and if you own is there a mortgage? Do you sometimes live someplace else? That is about it. Perhaps they have no business asking anything other than “How many people live here”? But they have been taking names, ages, etc. every ten years for a couple of hundred years. They do maintain that all personal information is kept confidential for 72 years. So, decide for yourself if it is too intrusive, but don’t believe that somebody is going to enter your home when you are not there. Old Bob is a great guy, but he can over do it now and again.

Mahakala

May 27th, 2010
6:26 pm

If a census worker walks into my apartment without my permission he will be carried out.

HOMELAND INSECURITY

May 27th, 2010
6:28 pm

How about people from around the world, that enter our country daily, without permission?

You can see thousands of them here – http://www.BorderInvasionPics.com

Linguist

May 27th, 2010
6:29 pm

Bob, you’re a douche and judging from your photo, a raging gay douche to boot.

Geechee

May 27th, 2010
6:30 pm

To the poster who characterized census workers as “goons, thugs, etc.” I am currently an enumerator and am a former advertising executive. Among those on my team are an attorney, a former research analyst for major pharmaceutical companies, a school teacher, a 28-year veteran Chief Petty Officer, and a realtor. Our sister team includes a couple of engineers. I would expect that any of their resumes’ would compete quite nicely with your own.

As to entry to any domicile, census workers will enter only at the invitation of the resident.

thendisnear

May 27th, 2010
6:30 pm

My dogs would love if they did invite themselves in as would my glock 23……November is coming quickly for these criminals.

Searl

May 27th, 2010
6:33 pm

I like to see them try it down in east LA

Anonymous

May 27th, 2010
6:34 pm

Hobo Bob

May 27th, 2010
6:35 pm

Thank you Mr. Obama for honoring our service men and women at Arlington Cemetry, NOT!
Thank you Mr. Obama for taking care of our Kentucky and Tennessee brothers and sisters, NOT!
Thank you Mr. Obama for sitting by idly while the NYC Council approves a mosque at 9/11 Ground Zero, NOT!
Thank you Mr. Obama for corrupting our national election by offering Sestak a job, NOT! (Can you say impeachment?)
Thank you Mr. Obama for securing our Mexican borders, NOT!
Thank you Mr. Obama for alienating our allies while honoring banana dictators, NOT!
Thank you Mr. Obama for dividing our nation, NOT!
Thank you Mr. Obama for giving the Unions so frigging much power, NOT!

Mr. Obama — keep up the great job….we’re all getting thrills up our legs…

Kaboom

May 27th, 2010
6:35 pm

Very dangerous. Can you imagine what would happen if a census worker wandered into a house with a nightshift worker sleeping on the couch? I’d certainly fire a shot off.

irishalaman

May 27th, 2010
6:36 pm

Did anyone hear about the Grandmother from California SHOT by Police for protecting her home at night from a Census Worker? The Poilice came after the Cewnsus worker called them, the Grandmother refused to put down her gun and the Plice shot and killed her.
In Maryland 500 SEIU thugs surrounded an alone teenager in a house and stormed their front yard.
SEIU thugs BIT OFF a man’s finger at a protest re: Healthcare and in St. Louis SEIU thugs attacked a black American Tea Party member, ummmm, because he was Black! and better yet, the guy who got attacked, well, his brother lost his job at the COUNTY for complaining about ZERO police response.

So let’s see all you proud Americans seems like blacks, teenagers and Grandmothers are taking the brunt of the attacks so far. The youth of AMerica watches in disbeleif as do I.

Hobo Bob

May 27th, 2010
6:36 pm

hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm…can you say 2nd Amendment…

;)

DICKY

May 27th, 2010
6:38 pm

Ya this will happen!

Jackson

May 27th, 2010
6:39 pm

Has anyone else noticed that since the Pelosicrats took over Congress in 2007 and Obambi the White House in 2009 that our freedoms and rights to privacy have been stripped more and more? No, probably not anyone who voted for the Teleprompter In Chief anyway. Look around. Look at the fascism and federal government takeover of the private sectors these people have been pushing. The only thing I answered on my census form was the number of people in the household. We’ll see what happens if they want more answers than that, but I’ve got news for them if they come back: NUNYADAB….none of your damned business. I thought the federal government under Republican leadership was bad. Well, these Democrats have taken gross incompetence to a whole new level.

Rick

May 27th, 2010
6:39 pm

E Masters, thank you for the link to the statute itself. Having read it, it’s clear why the author didn’t quote it, or cite it, or link to it: he has completely mischaracterized what the statute says. Unfortunately too many people will just accept what he’s written as the truth. Pisses me off.

Sam

May 27th, 2010
6:39 pm

You’re an idiot! I work for the Census in SW Michigan and Census workers are not required to enter any dwelling, in fact it is discouraged. The information we collect does not require entering a dwelling, it can be answered at your front gate or even over the phone. And Census workers wouldn’t even have to do that if people would respond to the mailer.

The questions asked are very basic, Name, DOB, Race and Ethnicity. You don’t have to give your phone number if you don’t want to and we already have your address.

Finally, if a person refuses to respond and they are the owner of the property Upper Management will attempt to make them understand that this information is required by law, but I haven’t heard of any necessity coming about! If a person refuses to answer and they are a renter, the owner of the property can be compelled to give what information they may have to help complete the Census which can be as vague as Sex, appx Age and best guess of Race and Ethnicity!

This is very basic info, not “increasingly intrusive” and it is required by the Constitution! All Americans should want an accurate accounting of the citizenry, it allocates funds and, more importantly, it allocates seats for representation!

So, why don’t you try raising the Barr and maybe write about things you know!

Marcia Fabiano

May 27th, 2010
6:39 pm

I am one of the goons. I am 64 years old, a short lady with gray hair which I dye when I get time, 5 children and 21 grandchildren. I also have arthritis, which really doesn’t work well for a goon. I am an enumerator. I don’t ask people how many bathrooms they have. Gee, where do people dig up nonsensical things? 10 or 20 years ago (I can’t remember, my memory is failing) if was a question. It makes for interesting statistics, though. I have been trained not to enter anyone’s homes in the absence of an adult who resides in the home. Hold all your dogs, folks. We goons are scared of dogs. We don’t work for Obama or any particular elected representative. We are Americans who are following the Constitution of this country, which calls for the census to take place every 10 years. Our Constitution is being battered daily and you are helping it by spreading nonsense . Be nice when a census worker comes by and give the poor goon a break.

Stefan

May 27th, 2010
6:40 pm

Bob Barr just tries to get attention. Its how people like him support themselves. Clinton Impeachment as GOP, next Libertarian and ACLU whacko, now this distortion.
I’m conservative, but good riddance to him.

YehudaSF

May 27th, 2010
6:41 pm

As an Orthodox Jew, neither I nor my family will participate in the “census”. G-d explicitly forbade the enumeration of Jews, upon pain of death. My neighbours have told the nosy little evil busybody “census” worker that it is none of her damned business who lives in my home, or how many. I welcome an attempt by the evil federal government to attempt to force me to violate G-d’s law. They will long for the days when it was (only) the jihadis seeking their blood.

DICKY

May 27th, 2010
6:41 pm

I have never ever thought there would be a day where I am completly ashamed to be an amerikan! We are the joke of the world! A Joke! I would hate to be a soldier that sacrificed my life, time, or energy to serve this cesspool they call the united states of amerika.

Jackson

May 27th, 2010
6:42 pm

“SEIU thugs BIT OFF a man’s finger at a protest re: Healthcare and in St. Louis SEIU thugs attacked a black American Tea Party member, ”

Irish: yeah I saw all that. But you have to remember something. Liberals believe that the Tea Party members are the violent thugs and domestic terrorists (even going so far as making up lies about what they’ve done…like shouting the “N” word at a congressman, which NOBODY can come up with an audio transcript of on the freaking Capitol Hill steps with news reporters everywhere!).

I know one thing, if that p.o.s. SEIU scab did that to my grandfather in my line of site, he’d be pushing daisies right now.

Richard

May 27th, 2010
6:43 pm

I am a property manager. Two weeks ago on a Friday evening I had a census worker call demanding information on a tenant. She made contact with the tenant who refused to talk to her. When she called me asking for the information I informed her I would not provide any information without a subpoena. She said I had to provide her with the information or I would be in violation of the law. I again told her to bring me a subpoena and hung-up. She called back and continued again and I once again hung-up.

It is not a landlords duty to provide personal information about a tenant, especially when the tenant will not give this information out themselves.

Kalo

May 27th, 2010
6:44 pm

Now quite right..

The manager must give access into a building of apartments. “can enter your apartment” sound like a census worker can go inside an individual apartment. You are good at twisting words.

“or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

moronpolitics

May 27th, 2010
6:44 pm

The part of Oak Cliff, Dallas I lived in for 20 years had one advantage. Anybody tried that sort of thing and got caught…… somebody would be counting their counters at the end of the day and coming up short. We had an almost ZERO rate of burglaries. Lots of murders, but very very few burglaries…..

Scott

May 27th, 2010
6:44 pm

I’m a census worker. After 4 weeks of service, I have never entered a residence – either house or apartment – occupied or vacant. I have never requested to enter any dwelling when the owner or renter was not available. I have, however, requested a phone number from a neighbor or landlord if the resident has not responded to 2 or more notices left on the door. If after 3 attempts to personally contact a resident, I would either seek a qualified proxy (neighbor or apt mgr) or fill a form stating “Unable to Contact.” The instruction I received specified to never enter a residence. During an interview, if information is not provided, I specify either “Don’t Know” or “Refused.” Nowhere in my documentation does it specify a fine or penalty for withholding any information. The only fine and jail time applies to the census taker should he/she take a personal interest in the confidentiality of the census data. Perhaps Bob Barr should take his journalistic responsibility seriously and not spread undocumented rumors.

MrTwigg

May 27th, 2010
6:45 pm

I’ll be succinct:

BANG !

welovetheUSA

May 27th, 2010
6:45 pm

Okay….not in Alaska…shoot and ask question later.

Goldenfoxx

May 27th, 2010
6:46 pm

Well, I live out in the boonies and no mail box either. I did not get a census form. One day a young man knocked on my door, but I didn’t answer it, I never answer the door when home alone. I had my 12 gauge ready to shoot anyone coming through the door. After several minutes of knocing and door bell ringing he gave up. After he left I opened the door and the Census guy left his calling card with his name and phone number. I looked him up on face book so I could find out everything about him. LOL! I know more about him than he does about me.

Heather

May 27th, 2010
6:47 pm

Bob Barr – you’re a freakin alarmist! I’m a census worker, and we’re not allowed to even open a screen door to put in a notice – we’re not allowed to even look in a window. Homeowner’s privacy is protected! Printing this kind of garbage is liable to get someone hurt! Research your BS and do a retraction!

Kalo

May 27th, 2010
6:47 pm

Not quite right.. Very deceptive title and article…

The manager must give access into a building of apartments OR provide names… “can enter your apartment” sound like a census worker can go inside an individual apartment. You are good at twisting words.

“or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Anthony Portland OR

May 27th, 2010
6:49 pm

I WAS AN ENUMERATOR. I was a census worker but I quit due to what I was being asked to do – encroach upon U.S. Citizens’ constitutional rights. I subsequently read the U.S. Constitution regarding the census and I’m convinced that the census was intended to be a “head count” of every person in the United States limited to asking age, sex and family relations (ie. father, mother, daughter, son, etc.). Any entry onto a private premises without permission or warrant or probable cause of a crime or imminent danger is unlawful. I have heard of so many encroachments of my personal friends that I have given them the number(s) for the U.S. Dept. of Justice to counteract The Census Bureau (U.S. Dept of Commerce). U.S. Dept. of Justice (202)514-2000

DELTA PLOWBOY

May 27th, 2010
6:49 pm

OVER MY DEAD BODY. A HISPANIC TRIED TO FORCE HIS WAY INTO MY DAUGHTERS’ HOME WHILE SHE WAS ALONE WITH HER TEN YEAR OLD.. WHEN SHE REFUSED, SHE WAS THREATENED AND CURSED. SHE CALLED 911 AND TOOK HIS NAME AND CAR TAG INFO. HE LEFT IN A HURRY.

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May 27th, 2010
6:50 pm

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David

May 27th, 2010
6:51 pm

I thought there was a little thing called the 4th amendment. It takes precedence over federal laws.

King of Free

May 27th, 2010
6:53 pm

Let one of them walk up in my abode univited. It’s just me and my 2 friends….Mr Smith and Mr Wesson.

Bill_B

May 27th, 2010
6:54 pm

There is a world of difference between “access to” and “enter”. Thanks to those who have pointed out that this piece is a flagrant outrageous distortion of the truth. I’m glad Bob Barr is no longer a Republican. Republicans should be as accurate and truthful as possible to make clear their difference from all the flagrant liars in power now.

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May 27th, 2010
6:54 pm

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ToTheManorBorn

May 27th, 2010
6:54 pm

Took my completed Census form to the P.O. myself and mailed it. Month later a gal came to my door identifying herself as Census worker and showed badge. Said they did not have my completed form. I told her I had mailed it myself at the P.O. She said well, there are other questions we need to ask that were not on the form I received. I said Lady how did you know what form I received and what questions were or were not on that form if it wasn’t received? She stammered and said well I will ask you the questions and you can just sign this form. I said NO DOUBLEDIPPING. They have my form and if they lost it tooooooo bad. I will tell everybody you are being sent out to cull additional info on people, and that info will be “added” to the “count” to pad whatever they want, so it’s clear they have a system of corruption and deceit which will enable them to fix the figures to benefit whatever they want. She still insisted asking if I would just answer the questions. I told her she just asked her last question and shut the door. ALSO, ask your 9/11 survivors to contact the survivors of Obama’s Oil “Rig.” It’s easy to understand why he spoke so slowly and parsed his words today in his Press conference… Clear to me this is Obama’s 9/11 to push us into his Green Energy Companies, and off of oil… Bet BP will get a big cut of those businesses too… Unfortunately, some lives had to be lost again… oh well, all for PROGRESS. Check out the GREEN businesses and banks BP guys are locked into already. WHY. And what about Landreau the Miss Piggy Look Alike oinking about the cost of the oil problem. What did she do with the bookoo bills she got from Obama for the Hellcare Bill? Ladies and Gentlemen, get ready for another “conspiracy” theory… Oily 9/11. Hey, 9/11 worked for Bush and pals, and they sure can’t say anything against this little Pearl Harbor, can they. Ask the families of those killed in the Rigged explosion if they heard anything from their loved ones about that big fight on the rig just before the explosion… no more news about that fight. It was “out there” only once. See if you can find it. THIS is a realllllllly big event… WORSE that GLOBAL WARMING Copenhagan… people FOUND the truth and uncovered the LIES of those “scientists” who were willing to destroy YOUR lives and country for gollllllllllllllllllllllllld. Snoop out the truth on this one. Did you notice how pale Obama looked during his speech? He must be quivering wondering if he can pull this one over us too.

C. W. Engler

May 27th, 2010
6:55 pm

Dear Sir,
Wrong! Please research your subject before publishing. I know it’s extra work but it should be Journalism 101.
Thank you.

Dennis

May 27th, 2010
6:56 pm

I received two census forms in the mail. I filled them out and returned them by return mail. I noted on the second form that it was a duplicate. I felt I did my duty. Now last night I get a call on a do not call phone number to survey my forms. I have a college degree and speak and write in pretty plain English.
The caller seemed to have a problem with any answer other than yes or no. The call was received just before 9pm. I totally consider this as a invasion of my privacy. If a census worker shows up I will ask them to leave my property or have them arrested. I have fulfilled my part, let them hire someone that can count simple numbers and leave me the heck alone.

WNY Transplant

May 27th, 2010
6:59 pm

All because the Organizers in power what to pad the numbers so they can Gerrymander the districts to hold on to power.
Then we can elect another official who’s resume’ won’t even fill a postage stamp.

SCOTTYG

May 27th, 2010
7:00 pm

THEY ENTER MY HOUSE AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT CLAIBER GUNS I HAVE, BY THE SLUGS THEY PULL OUT OF THEIR BUTTS…. I DONT GIVE A CRAP WHAT AUTHRITY THEY “”"THINK”"” THEY HAVE… I KNOW WHERE MY GUNS ARE AT ALL TIMES, FOR “”"UNEXPECTED GUESTS”"”"……

Alan

May 27th, 2010
7:00 pm

My form went in the wood stove. I don’t answer calls from unknown numbers and i don’t let strangers in the house. If they come to my door to ask questions i refuse. If they force me to answer i will lie.

Paul in FL

May 27th, 2010
7:01 pm

Wow, the comments here are pretty shocking. Anybody who thinks an agent of the federal government coming to your residence and asking for personal information of ANY kind when all the Constitution authorizes is that you are enumerated – well, all I can say is, most people in this country have no concept of the meaning of personal freedom.

Dave Turner

May 27th, 2010
7:03 pm

Not only did I send it the Census, I’ve also had census collectors show up on two separate occasions to interview me and fill out the form. That’s right, the morons running the census have collected my information three times since April 3rd when I mailed the original form. Each time I told the canvaser that I already provide this info, the last time was the saddest as I told the person I had been intervied just two weeks before and she told me that it must have gotten lost, like the original one in the mail. :/

Why bother to even send them in, the counters still show up at the door anyways. It’s a perfect example of the complete incompetence and shear waste in our Federal government. Any bets the wife and I end up counted as six people?

Bill in PA

May 27th, 2010
7:04 pm

I like it – what better way to get a list of illegal aliens – first step in sending them home

Robl

May 27th, 2010
7:04 pm

Albert Corn

May 27th, 2010
7:06 pm

Watching paranoid conservatives soil their frilly panties is the free entertainment of our age. Especially when they combine it with their “we’re the tough guys” fantasy.

Spirit of '76

May 27th, 2010
7:08 pm

Dead men tell no tales.

rbcintexas

May 27th, 2010
7:09 pm

Can you say unconstitutional? Let them try and I will blow them away as an intruder because I have a right to defend my home and family. Our laws specifically state that we have the right to privacy and the only people that can enter anyone’s home is with a properly executed search warrant. Obama is a Marxist tyrant and should be put on trial for treason. The crap coming out of Washington is defintely making it to where it is the citizens against the establishment.

Our country went through the sames things under Presidents Wilson and FDR and we will not go through it again. They are all hel bent on causing another bloody revolution. God help us if we don’t kick everyone of those SOBs out of office in November.

The November elections will be about so much more that which party is in control – it is going to be over the life or death of the Country that we love.

Timwi

May 27th, 2010
7:11 pm

‘Not on my watch’. I before e, except after c.

you bunch of fools

May 27th, 2010
7:12 pm

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet fools!! Some of the comments here.. wow… This article is blatantly wrong…

TheWaywardWind

May 27th, 2010
7:12 pm

The census folks all say the census is required by the Constitution. They’re right — about that. The problem is that they aren’t saying WHY there are more than one question: “HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE HERE?” All the Constitution requires is an enumeration. Nothing else. In my house, there are two people. BO and his census goons don’t need to know if we;re related or our race.

Brian

May 27th, 2010
7:12 pm

I wonder how many may get shot on accident?

JOE

May 27th, 2010
7:13 pm

only a fine of 500 bucks to shoot a census worker because you thought he was a thief? What a deal!

Charles

May 27th, 2010
7:13 pm

I think this is wrong even if there is a Census “rule”. If challenged in court, there is still a 4th Ammendment right against illegal search and seizure without a warrent by any Government entity. The Constitution requires a Census every ten years, but any Ammendment trumps anything previously written in the Constitution. Neither the Congress nor the Census Bureau can pass any law or rule that trumps the Constitution or an Ammendment.

LD

May 27th, 2010
7:13 pm

It is mandated by the constitution from the beginning of this republic…it is a sin let alone a crime people feel they will not comply. Just shut up and do your duty and if not get the F out. We are a nation of laws and this sissy government should enforce the laws to the teeth. I volunteered to do the census to get a bead of whats going on in my neighborhood and I have found the new immigrants comply fully and the ugly American is nasty and does not comply. I wish I could arrest them on the spot….I am a conservative Republican and and I am sick and tired of my fellow citizens….

Sam

May 27th, 2010
7:13 pm

I wonder which congress gave them the enabling language to be able to do that? Was it a Barr congress? Aren’t careful congressmen and senators wonderful?!

KYRick

May 27th, 2010
7:14 pm

I avoided the census taker, but the nosy B$%#% gave my neighbor the second degree and he gave her the info about my household. BTW there was an Obama sticker on her vehicle.

missinformation not needed

May 27th, 2010
7:15 pm

How WRONG you are…

Give access to the building or provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

AmericanJim

May 27th, 2010
7:15 pm

But what if there are GUNS in the home????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

M

May 27th, 2010
7:15 pm

Lock n Load folks.

norgeblonde

May 27th, 2010
7:16 pm

Two days ago, a census worker rang my door bell. She acknowledged that I had returned a complete form but she wanted to know if I would “act as a proxy” (her words) for the neighbor next door who had not returned the form and was not at home. She wanted me to answer all of the questions on behalf of the neighbor. I refused and told her it was inappropriate. I could have made up some bizarre answers and no one would have never checked to see if any were valid. Makes you wonder how much of this is happening across the country.

Field Rep

May 27th, 2010
7:16 pm

TOTALLY FALSE! I am a field representative of the Census Bureau since 2007, and also worked as an enumerator during the decennial in 2000, & can assure you we are under no circumstances allowed to enter an inhabited dwelling.

Mr. L

May 27th, 2010
7:17 pm

You should recheck your facts, Mr. Barr.

On the official website for the census, it states:

“Most importantly, the Census Bureau will NEVER, under any circumstances, ask to enter your home.”
http://2010.census.gov/2010census/privacy/more-security-topics.php

The stories you are reporting may be phishing scams by people posing to be census workers.

Field Rep

May 27th, 2010
7:17 pm

To clarify, we cannot enter an inhabited dwelling WITHOUT PERMISSION

wrong

May 27th, 2010
7:19 pm

How WRONG you are…

Give access to the building or provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Condor

May 27th, 2010
7:21 pm

How does knowing the race of the occupants of my house relate to apportionment of representatives. If we have equal protection under the law, then race is irrelevant. The only reason to know the race of people living here is to either deny something or provide something to them based on that race.

On another note. Why do those same race questions include a half dozen different flavors for Hispanics?

Walk

May 27th, 2010
7:21 pm

I live in an apartment and got the notice. I even mailed it in after some time had elapsed with the information provided. I subsequently got a call from “Bob” with the census… on my cell phone. So I’m pretty sure that my landlord gave out my number.

wrong o

May 27th, 2010
7:21 pm

How WRONG you are…

Give access to the building or provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Lemming

May 27th, 2010
7:22 pm

And what if they happened to work for ACORN? If they steal cash is it a legal donation?

marybbbbb

May 27th, 2010
7:22 pm

I had an especially unusual experience with a census worker today. She asked me if I was occupying the house I am in on April 1st. Then proceeded to ask me if anyone other than my recorded family members had slept in the house that evening. If so who are they and basically why were they here. Even if it were a friend sleeping over on my couch that nigh. Who was she? Does anyone find this odd? I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone.

Stu

May 27th, 2010
7:23 pm

When do we get to enter the white house to get the illegal presidents birth certificate and find out why the nigerian has a Conecticut Social Security number?

Caroline Miniscule

May 27th, 2010
7:23 pm

Trying to stop the illegals coming into the US is beyond the powers of the US government, but census takers can enter your home when you aren’t there? Scary.

wrong o

May 27th, 2010
7:24 pm

Mary.. it’s just a back up question to remind you if anyone else was there.. then also a cross reference..

so wrong

May 27th, 2010
7:24 pm

How WRONG you are…

Give access to the building or provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

thedude

May 27th, 2010
7:25 pm

I would advise them not to try that in my neighborhood. People take their apartment and their stuff in the apartment very seriously.

alwatanrim

May 27th, 2010
7:26 pm

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Craig

May 27th, 2010
7:27 pm

Wake up people, there was a lady shot to death because she didn’t want to answer their questions. The government interperets the law any damn way it wants. Everything the government does is a conspirisy to defraud the general public and they are incompitent at everything they do, but they distroy lives and dreams and you liberal twits opinion means nothing to us the same way ours means nothing to you. the big difference is when liberals say “All Americans, they mean the 20 percent that follow them. when the conservatives say all Americans, they mean the 76% that follow them. the only reason liberals still get elected is that all election officals are liberals. and because of the Illegal alien vote which they get 95 percent of.

Kevin

May 27th, 2010
7:28 pm

FILL OUT the census form and there will be no need for the census worker to come to your residence!! People are idiots!!

get it right

May 27th, 2010
7:28 pm

How WRONG you are…

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

get it right

May 27th, 2010
7:29 pm

If you agree with this article you are a fool… learn before you speak..

bad

May 27th, 2010
7:30 pm

How WRONG you are…

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

YehudaSF

May 27th, 2010
7:30 pm

Interesting to note that a particularly “dedicated” socialist pig obamanation worshipper has posted the same bs comment twelve times thus far in these comments. Just like the nazi thuglings that they are, if they cannot sway with intellect, the will cheat and lie (multiple identical postings under different user names) and attempt to drown out any discourse with their odious lies and spam. One can but hope he dies drowning in the blood of his slaughtered offspring.

bad article

May 27th, 2010
7:30 pm

How WRONG you are…

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Lora

May 27th, 2010
7:30 pm

Bob: You are completely wrong, and I am disappointed that you are spreading this rumor. I regret voting for you.

Rockmelon

May 27th, 2010
7:30 pm

I would like to see one of the workers enter my abode! It ain’t gonna be pretty……. They may walk in, but they are not going to “walk” out! I guarantee it.

BB

May 27th, 2010
7:30 pm

You have got to be kidding me. Census workers are American citizens too. The hatred and name calling on here is absurd. Most government workers are just making a living like everybody else. How much lawmaking and underhanded political dealing do you think somebody making $15 an hour is involved in? This is like yelling at a customer service cashier because you don’t like Target’s return policy.

bad article

May 27th, 2010
7:32 pm

Good grief.. can’t you read? READ… it has to be posted multiple times… so this miss-information is stopped

stop the miss-information

May 27th, 2010
7:32 pm

How WRONG you are…

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Mark

May 27th, 2010
7:33 pm

My understanding is they hire people to go door to door collecting information from people who DID NOT fill out the form mailed to them. (It is a simple task. Just do it.) For reasons of this article and many from comments such as:

I am certain I saw a TV news item, a couple weeks back, where the US Census hired a (locally) known and registered sex offender. This guy was getting full names, ages, and probably other ‘chatty’ information like schools and schedules, about children, directly from the adults in the home.

Let the government run everything. They are so good at it all.

VOTE. AND VOTE ANGRY.

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May 27th, 2010
7:33 pm

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Beerman309

May 27th, 2010
7:34 pm

If one goes into my apartment I hope my dog bites him/her. SOB’s

Keez

May 27th, 2010
7:35 pm

I had a census taker contact me at my job. When I called to complain and to discover how the census worker had obtained my work info, I was told that it must have been on the internet somewhere. I was also told how important it was for me to respond to their questions and repeatedly told that I should just answer their questions. I’m disgusted with the lack of concern for my private information and that in a time that personal information can be used for identity theft, the census worker had obtained information that they should not have obtained.

miss-information 2

May 27th, 2010
7:35 pm

How WRONG you are…

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

wri7913

May 27th, 2010
7:37 pm

“Hillbilly Deluxe at 4:21 pm. Such mountain oysters you have, not giving a phone number and all. Shazamm!”

If you have an unlisted number, there is no reason to give out numbers to people you don’t know.

With the Census asking more obtrusive questions this time around than last, its quite possible the information obtained will be shared or sold to private companies or given to government agencies. If any Government agency feels they have the right to obtain your number, they can do so by first obtaining a court order after having proven just cause to do so. Otherwise, they can shove it for all I care.

miss-information 3

May 27th, 2010
7:38 pm

How WRONG you are…

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Eyeball

May 27th, 2010
7:38 pm

I wouldn’t try forcing your way into someones home in rural Texas. It could be very unhealthy. Just because someone flashes a ID dont mean nothing. Any criminal could forge an ID.

miss-information 3

May 27th, 2010
7:40 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

miss-information 4

May 27th, 2010
7:41 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Don Osborne

May 27th, 2010
7:43 pm

Set up or keep available a camcorder, camera etc. and if not that then at least a recording device or witness.

Rick C.

May 27th, 2010
7:43 pm

Having worked or the Census or a few weeks I never heard them say we could enter someone’s home. In fact we were told not to ask to enter. I would only enter if the person asked me to come in while they were answering the Census. We were also specifically told not to enter their porch if there was a door and to knock on the porch door. We were allowed to question neighbors about an address if we were unsuccessful in contacting the person.

Sam Wilson

May 27th, 2010
7:44 pm

I never got my form, so I called and answered all their questions except for the race ones (your skin color should not matter) and they still stated that they were going to visit my house. I rent and my
wife and I work all the time. How do you know if they went into your house or not. This seems like an extreme invasion of privacy….someone please tell me that this article is wrong !

former democrat

May 27th, 2010
7:45 pm

Just remember to vote these fools out this year and in 2012,

miss-information 5

May 27th, 2010
7:45 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Dennis

May 27th, 2010
7:45 pm

Amazing how many people believe this article without doing a little research.
Lots of poor lost souls out there.

Jim

May 27th, 2010
7:45 pm

This article is wrong. Under the Article 13 of the Constitution, a census worker must be allowed into an apartment BUILDING, NURSING HOME, ETC… not INDIVIDUAL apartments. The nursing home manager or landlord can not refuse to give a count or the names of the individuals who reside there. A completely different rule than this writer wants you to believe. He is either a liar, or a complete bafoon.

steve

May 27th, 2010
7:45 pm

I will try one more time to get this posted since nobody else seems to see this.
I am a staunch conservative who lives on the left coast.
Not on of my votes have ever counted for anything and that situation is not liable to get better unless the stranglehold of the demoncrats here can in someway be broken.
I figure things this way,..There is not likely going to be a change unless there funding is cut that they
use to by cheap democrat votes with to wipe out my representation..
SO I will not be counted to reduce, as far as I possibly can, there ability to project their stifling power down my throat and buy influence.
Its my small gesture of defiance to these holier than thou scum!
The constitution is being ignored by this ilk and if you can’t beat your cursed enemies one way try another! They certainly enjoy getting these census numbers so they can stuff more legislative seats their way.
Nuff said.
Tell me wher I am wrong here?
If more people do this civil disobediencwe it may begin to have the intended effect of reducing there ability to project their unholy influence1

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
7:46 pm

Evidently, reading the Constitution is a lost art (not surprising, when your Administration doesn’t read ANY laws,even the ones they are passing). This is the Constitutional authorization for EVERYTHING the Census Bureau is doing (Article I, Section 2): “The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.” As THEY (that is, Congress) shall by law direct. In other words, whatever governing regulations Congress passes are CONSTITUTIONAL.

Whatever Congress decides.

If you turned your form in late or wrong, your address got assigned an enumerator. A certain number of households also receive follow-up visits or phone calls. These have a two-fold purpose. First, they confirm that the enumerator got the answers right. Second, they check that the enumerator actually went where they said they did so the TAXPAYERS’ MONEY isn’t just handed over to people aimlessly driving around and making up data.

Just answer the questions. The whole thing will be over by the end of the summer–and, who knows? You might get a new Congressman out of it. Just do us all a favor and make it an ethical, Constitutionally-focused one.

Ron

May 27th, 2010
7:47 pm

Yes, let them enter. They will be taken out in bodybags also.

misinformation

May 27th, 2010
7:48 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

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noah

May 27th, 2010
7:48 pm

Wow Bob. You obviously don’t know what your talking about. NOBODY can demand access to a private residence unless they have a legal means to do so and the 2010 Census is NOT one of those reasons. The census bureau doesn’t require the census takers to actually enter a residence to conduct a survey. What is required by law is a response from somebody in the household for census purposes. If they enter with permission, they can’t even tell the authorities about the heavy amounts of crack you are obviously smoking because of the strict confidentiality placed on the enumerators.

misinformation 2

May 27th, 2010
7:49 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Cheryl m

May 27th, 2010
7:49 pm

This guy is totally bogus! This is a total and complete fraud article trying to scare the populace. Instead of writing this psycho Big Brother crap, I think he should study the United States Constitution and stop believing the fascists who are spreading lies about their powers under color of law.

John Williams

May 27th, 2010
7:50 pm

Please, I’m a temporary Census Enumerator and I was trained to never ask to enter someones house. Get your facts straight. If someone invites me in and I feel safe, then and only then can I enter your house. Most of us need these jobs and trying to scare people is doing us a disservice!

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
7:50 pm

“As an Orthodox Jew, neither I nor my family will participate in the “census”. G-d explicitly forbade the enumeration of Jews, upon pain of death.”

Not to start a theological argument, but I’ve never heard of this. Where does it appear in Scripture?

Bill in California

May 27th, 2010
7:51 pm

As an enumerator, I know this is not correct policy or proper law.

Guard SGT

May 27th, 2010
7:51 pm

I am a Census Crew Leader. This is my 5th mission with the 2010 Census.

If the nay sayers had bothered to read Article 1 Section 2 of the US Constition, they would know that the Constitution grants the power to Congress to ask the questions they want us to answer. It is just that simple. But they are no better than the Barry Regime when it come to reading the Arizona Immigration Law. Ignorance must seem to both to be wonderful.

We are instructed NOT to enter any home even if invited. This is for our safety as we don’t know anything about the person who answers the door.

We do fingerprint everyone that is working for the US Census. I have seen people terminated because of their past. It does happen. Yes, it isn’t perfect. Myself, I have held Top Secret clearances in the military. That is a much tougher and greatly more expensive standard to meet. I wish we had the time and money to do a better job. Sadly, it is a no win battle. The nay sayers would complain about the cost if the US Census did that.

I am very impressed with the character and quality of the Team I lead. They are super people. I just wish those that slam the door on us had a small part of their character.

Guard SGT

whathappendtoprivacy

May 27th, 2010
7:51 pm

This is the government thugs at their worst. They could take anything and no one could do anything about it. They could do anything and no one could do anything about it. This sounds exactly like ACORN or SEIU in charge.

misinformation 3

May 27th, 2010
7:53 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

John W

May 27th, 2010
7:53 pm

If every person in every state is going to get the states $1500 per person from the federal government, where is the money coming from?

Karl in AZ

May 27th, 2010
7:54 pm

I dare anyone to try an enter my residence without a legal warrant.

YehudaSF

May 27th, 2010
7:54 pm

@ seanmom “but I’ve never heard of this. Where does it appear in Scripture?”

Do you read Hebrew? If not you should open an English version of the Hebrew Bible. Why should I do your research for you? Look in the index / concordance an easy task for the “not lazy”.

comcass

May 27th, 2010
7:55 pm

bob barr you are a complete lunatic.

pointman

May 27th, 2010
7:56 pm

If a census worker walks into my house without my permission he will be carried out.
The Original Truthtube vueflix.com

xx28

May 27th, 2010
7:56 pm

Was out looking at houses with a Realtor a few weeks back. A census guy caught us coming out of an empty house. He asked if we both lived there and why we had been avoiding him. We told him that neither of us lived there, and I was just looking at it to possibly buy it. He then told us we were lying, and we had to answer his questions or we could go to jail. It was actually high comedy. We told him we were leaving and as we went to our car, he raced to his in an attempt to block us in. As he pulled up behind us, we pulled out the other side of the drive…. Whats more funny is we ran into him the next day as he was harassing someone at a house next door to another house I was touring… I waved, he flipped me off, and yelled an obscenity at us as we left…

Lloyd

May 27th, 2010
7:58 pm

I have received the two notices of a visit by the census worker. I am relieved by E Masters citing the law to keep me from worrying about the invasion. Meanwhile I am ignoring the invitation to contact the Census worker. I know that the only reason for the followup is due to my receiving _two_ census forms and only returning one. He really doesn’t want to know what I wrote on the other one.

Angela

May 27th, 2010
7:58 pm

Interesting. My friend is a census enumerator and was told that entering someone’s abode, even if they are home, is cause for dismissal.

Patrick

May 27th, 2010
7:58 pm

It’s fascinating how when you change the word “inquires” to “demands”, it makes Census workers, who are your friends and neighbors, seem like brownshirts. None of what is written here is accurate, and I think Mr. Barr fears losing his “right to privacy” (not granted in the constitution) because he has so many skeletons in his closet – affairs, abortions, and maybe, just maybe some experimental manlove before his mom made him become a Republican by offering to take away his family checkbook. Ok, the manlove this is speculation, but look at that mustache, c’mon.

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
7:58 pm

“The census form WAS instrusive. It asked not only for a head count, but also the relationship of individuals in the house to the owner. That may sound harmless, but that is irrelevant to counting. Who know how that information will eventually be used–shared with insurance companies, etc”

The individual census information cannot by law be used for SEVENTY-TWO YEARS. Only the aggregate data can be used. By anyone. Sharing of PII (Personally Identifiable Information) is forbidden by law and statute, with fines and imprisonment.

Heywood Jablomy

May 27th, 2010
7:58 pm

This Obama regime sickens me to my core. The Left continues to side with this kind of Nazified thuggery, because this is just what they want America to look like. We will have to do a Tienanmen Square to demand our rights. Of course, Obama can call out the troops to shoot people in the street, because he sees anyone who deigns to challenge him as a threat to national security.

ALewis

May 27th, 2010
7:59 pm

Filling the form out and mailing it in does nothing – they can still show up at your house. I filled mine out with the only question that I legally had to answer – how many people live in my house – and I mailed it in. Three weeks ago a worker showed up at my door. I told her in very plain words “I mailed it in”. Then I slammed the door in her face. I will do the same if they show up again.

shookie

May 27th, 2010
7:59 pm

and what are you going to DO about it, Bobby?

misinformation 5

May 27th, 2010
7:59 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

David

May 27th, 2010
7:59 pm

In response to E. Masters, sir I followed your link and below you will find a direct quote from that article, and as you can see from the definition that I have helped you herewith the ingress means ENTRY, do your homework before you spew the venum, but what the heck if the President can complain about the Arizona law or accuse a police department of “acting stupidly”, and we normal citizens think of him as a wise man. Why would you not follow suit, just be careful where you are being led to sir.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

MEANING OF INGRESS FROM DICTIONARY.COM
in·gress   /ˈɪngrɛs/ Show Spelled[in-gres] Show IPA
–noun
1.the act of going in or entering.
2.the right to enter.
3.a means or place of entering; entryway.

Once again throw Sh-t out and see if it sticks, check the facts!

misinformation 5

May 27th, 2010
8:00 pm

yeah. sure i know the meaning.. but it is to buildings!!! not apartments… fool…

misinformation 6

May 27th, 2010
8:02 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Albert

May 27th, 2010
8:02 pm

I can see where having to deal with grumpy old confirmed bachelor moustace dandies like Barr would incline anyone to get a bit snippy. I had a visit from a census taker a couple of weeks ago (forgot to send in my form) and she was as nice as you could get.

Bob, go back to sipping juleps on the porch and quit rabble-rousing.

Harry Balzitch

May 27th, 2010
8:02 pm

enter my residence without permission. Huh ,ever hear of the castle doctrine. It means your
home is your castle and you have the right to open fire on any one not invited. entering a home without permission is enough of a threat for me to fire 3 warning shots right in your chest cavity.
So ask yourself do you feel lucky!!!

Saul Alinsky

May 27th, 2010
8:02 pm

Didn’t fill out my census at home. Instead went to another city, picked up a blank Census form from the library (”Be counted program”) and filled it out there with a hotel address. The local census worker where I live recently put up a “NO TRESPASSING” sign on his driveway. Apparently they are happy to gather your GPS location and intimate details of your life, but protective of their own privacy!!!

Grimriffer

May 27th, 2010
8:03 pm

So, when that cautious citizen decides to place a hidden camera in his home to capture the identity of the census worker who invaded his privacy and then seeks retribution (in whatever form he/she may choose), will the practice of home/privacy invasion by the senseless census worker stop? Maybe some people have to learn the hard way. :) I’m just sayin’.

misinformation 7

May 27th, 2010
8:03 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:03 pm

Problem with this constitutional violation is, when these workers start getting hurt, they and their families will be able to sue the government too.
president Soetoro is going to get a lot of people killed.

president Soetoro’s legacy will be measured by the crater He leaves.

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
8:03 pm

“Do you read Hebrew? If not you should open an English version of the Hebrew Bible. Why should I do your research for you? Look in the index / concordance an easy task for the “not lazy”.”

Oh, I see. You don’t know. Well, thanks anyway.

smilinjack

May 27th, 2010
8:03 pm

If they “execute” their “right” to enter my house without my permission, I reserve MY right of execution as well…………

Cheryl m

May 27th, 2010
8:04 pm

Just a reminder, anyone can declare protection under the Fifth Amendment from answering any question. One is not required to answer any question – this isn’g Nazi Germany, but their infringement is incrementally headed towards a fascist government one step at a time.

misinformation 7

May 27th, 2010
8:05 pm

Every property has geographical coordinates on record at the assessors office… the GPS does the same to make a map!!! fool…

MGroomer

May 27th, 2010
8:05 pm

Note to Census workers, don’t try this in Texas

SteveCan

May 27th, 2010
8:06 pm

Hope my pups don’t “chew on them” when they decide to enter my house …

Kenneth L. Brinzer

May 27th, 2010
8:07 pm

States need to sue under “states interest” in protecting the rights of their citizens. Individuals need to sue as a class action against the encroachment of a runaway federal government.

Mark

May 27th, 2010
8:09 pm

They are not welcome at my house.

Ktwoll

May 27th, 2010
8:10 pm

How does the Census trump the 4th Amendment that specifically states: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Not the landlord nor the renter can give such access to anyone’s home. That would be like me walking over to my neighbor saying I work at a bakery part time, and I want to check what your home has inside in case I like it better than mine. You would toss me out on my ear and rightly so.

YehudaSF

May 27th, 2010
8:11 pm

@ seanmom — nice try lazy slattern, your stupidity and laziness in no way indicate what I know or do not. You are typical of the evil lazy socialist “gimmee gimmee” crowd; wanting everything for free, and unwilling to expend any effort to get something (even knowledge) on their own.

Here is a little sample free for you, try Shemot, 30:12 you might also check Parshat Bamidbar. Of course this all assumes that you have the intellectual capacity to read such, not to mention the fortitude to actually undertake such a *gasp* onerous task.

Derek

May 27th, 2010
8:11 pm

I actually witnessed a census worker at an apartment complex near my home. He was sitting across from an apartment manager as they went through each of the apartments (on the computer) and collected information about the tenants — to include names, numbers, number of people on the lease, etc.. It’s scary to think that these people can obtain this information from your landlord without your authorization. Especially after someone recognized one of the census workers was a registered sex offender.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20005483-504083.html
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/NJ-Mom-Recognizes-Census-Worker-as-Sex-Offender-94185994.html

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:11 pm

Savage just started on a re-airing, on “KERNam” ;o)

David Dean O'keefe

May 27th, 2010
8:12 pm

the is no such thing as a “right to privacy”
The Constitution protects you from unlawful searches and siezures

Loesje Shema

May 27th, 2010
8:13 pm

Listen, people – once and for all – if you feel that any Census worker has been behaving inappropriately, call and report them. They are supposed to respect you and not threaten you.

Second, to the person that said the Jews shall not be counted, we do not ask anyone if they are Jewish, so we are not counting Jews. All the information becomes unidentifiable statistics, and the actual names, etc., collected are not released to the pubic for 72 years.

misinformation 8

May 27th, 2010
8:13 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Tina Ferrer

May 27th, 2010
8:14 pm

Please allow me a retort and a word of wisdom for any census worker that would entertain coming into my home without my permission. Two new nostrils, non negotiable.

Jay

May 27th, 2010
8:15 pm

No they can’t, you morons. The level if stoopid is high with you.

J Phred

May 27th, 2010
8:15 pm

To: Mary May 27th, 2010 8:49 am

Have you read the Daily KOS lately? Me thinks the pot is calling the kettle black.

Oh crap! Did I just make a racist statement?

YehudaSF

May 27th, 2010
8:16 pm

@ Loesje X: Your reading comprehension is on par with that of a three-toed sloth. The act of enumeration itself is forbidden you twit, what the evil ones claim to be counting is of no moment. Once more, you ignorant berk, participating in any manner in an enumeration process as a Jew is forbidden.

Shooter

May 27th, 2010
8:16 pm

The last sound they would hear, “Boom”!

misinformation 9

May 27th, 2010
8:16 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Jeff

May 27th, 2010
8:16 pm

Bob, you are nuts.

The questions, while mostly foolish are not invasive. Who cares if you are latino, or what race you are.
And the census worker is trained to get the information from the resident, not to demand entrance anywhere. True a landlord can not prevent a census worker from entering the COMMON areas of an apt complex they can not enter an apartment, and should not ever enter one even when invited.

Our government is too big and bloated for sure, but counting the people is necessary to set the representation in Congress, Barr wants to scare people so that the government can estimate the number of people and who do you think the Dems in power will estimate in favor of?

misinformation -

May 27th, 2010
8:17 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

JohnnyBoy

May 27th, 2010
8:18 pm

The article fails to state under what “law” this can alledgedly occur, Further, if congress has passed such a law, it is obviously unconstitutional. So I would ask the author of the article, state some further facts, please.

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
8:18 pm

You folks are such gullible sheeple. As if something like an “interpretation” of the law would stop ACORN, the SEIU or the Obama Administration. I’ve never really like Barr, but he is SPOT ON with this. The government will use every possible reading of even the most obscure regs and administrative orders to invade your privacy.

Just remember the ugly Chewbacca woman who worked for Clinton and how she took that little boy from Cuba away from his uncle at GUNPOINT.

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:18 pm

You guys hear the report the other day that They are firing these workers, then rehiring these people to tweek the employment count-upwards.
On paper, it shows an increase of employment nationally.

Jack Foster

May 27th, 2010
8:19 pm

Privacy is not a freedom, but a right, a right graranteed in such cases by the Fifth and (arguably) Ninth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

Jason

May 27th, 2010
8:19 pm

Im a census enumerator. Unfortunately, I can’t even begin to enumerate the sheer number of falsehoods and mischaracterizations contained in those four paragraphs.

Armed Texan

May 27th, 2010
8:21 pm

Come through my door without my consent and you’ll be met by a 12 gauge in your mouth! Welcome to Texas.

rick

May 27th, 2010
8:22 pm

The people hired will be union members and Obama people. One way to redistribute the wealth. They just come in and take it. Guess we found out how Obama is going to fund his next election campaign

Carma

May 27th, 2010
8:22 pm

I work for the Census.. We are not allowed inside anyone’s house under any circumstances.. We only stand at the door an ask how many people live there and a few other basic non-intrusive questions!!!! We do n ot ask for license numbers or social security numbers.. If someone ask you for that information they are NOT census people but cons!! Its publications like this that are making our jobs harder and more dangerous because people threaten our lives or pull guns on us!!

lolwut

May 27th, 2010
8:22 pm

Hey, Geechee- did you hear about the woman who recognized a convicted rapist in her home? What about the census worker who actually raped someone?

If this article doesn’t make you angry, you’re completely programmed by the state. Just get your bar code tattoo already.

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:23 pm

ty Kontos. Never forget Elian…. or Waco, or Ruby Ridge..ever.

Cass

May 27th, 2010
8:23 pm

Please tell me why any information other than a count is necessary for the census. Which gender/race/age/relationship is preferred for representation or funding? Which answers will increase or reduce funding or representation for my community? Why?

James

May 27th, 2010
8:23 pm

I don’t answer my door and anyone coming into my abode without permission will be treated the same. So the census better buy a whole bunch of mops and buckets if they’re coming here.

Tom Johnston

May 27th, 2010
8:23 pm

GREAT–You can meet my pit bull

whatev

May 27th, 2010
8:24 pm

Byron Mathison Kerr writes:
“Scary! Good incentive to take those few moments to fill out that simple census form.”
————————————————————-
-Yes, Byron, but would filling out a form deter the government from falsely claiming a right to access your residence without your permission? And can a man’s natural rights be preempted by a government’s self-granted dictatorial rights?
-But , Byron, sounds as though fear of retribution would compell you to capitulate to government pressure to answer questions that amount to an unlawful invasion of privacy.
-And, Byron, can you really call it a “census” if it’s objectives include a demand for information beyond a census’ raison d’etre; that is, “number of occupants?”

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:24 pm

sure are a lot of door knockers in here, all of a sudden?

Go get a real job, damit!!!

Jason

May 27th, 2010
8:24 pm

We’re so lucky to have Dear Leader and his Merry Band of Marxists. What would we do without them?

DTOM!
http://RightWingStuff.com

The Greatest Ever

May 27th, 2010
8:25 pm

What do you racist nazi rightwing teabaggers need freedom for? Put all power, money, faith in Obama, and everything will be perfect

jihadkiller

May 27th, 2010
8:25 pm

Come on in. I’m right behind the”Flash”!

darrell7887

May 27th, 2010
8:25 pm

It will be like the Roach Motel……census workers check in….but they won’t check out. Enter my house at your own risk!!!! Locked and loaded.

James Woods

May 27th, 2010
8:26 pm

Nice to see gov employees and sympathizers covering for this.

The facts are census workers have raped, robbed, threatened, harassed, and committed other crimes already in this recent census.

They have sex offenders working under fake names, personal items being stolen, and the power of the government to squash negative talk on the media.

Cenus workers rape & rob, it makes a small portion of the news. A census worker ’said to have been assaulted” gets crazy air play.

Government Media Complex.

People need to wakeup, your government has money to spend on commercials but I can assure you if you call them to fix a pothole in your local area they will tell you they don’t have the money.

CaptainRamius

May 27th, 2010
8:27 pm

This is crap.
I’m a census worker. I voted for Ronald Reagan twice and was an proud conservative while most of you folks were backing Dukakis, Perot and Clinton. We were told — and had it spelled out in writing — that we are NEVER to ask to enter anyone’s home. If it’s hot, raining or whatever, we’re supposed to stay outside and gather the information. Peroid. If Barr or anyone else who is chromosone deprived writes otherwise, they are mistaken.
All you Goobers who don’t want to answer the questions on your Census form, but then run around touting your love for the Constitution, have to realize that it is against the law not to cooperate. Period.
If you don’t like the Constitution, petition to change it. That is your right. It’s not your right to pick and choose the laws you wish to follow.
So many lies about the Census have been spread on-line, it’s flat-out sad.
The questions themselves are pretty harmless and — here’s the dirty little secret — about 100 percent of the information that we need is already available — for free — on line. Even birthdates are there for the taking if you find folks on Facebook or MySpace.
So, when some poor schlub like me comes to the door who is just trying to make a couple of extra bucks, you can wallow in the ignorance of your misbeliefs or just do what is required of everyone else in the country.

Craig

May 27th, 2010
8:28 pm

To LD: Thats because the immigrants legal and illegal get benefits from the census and us angry americans not only don’t get any benefits, we get ripped off for the benefits that the immigrants get and they never contributed anything to the government except a socialist vote. my mother and father paid SS all their lives and the government found ways of ripping both of them off while giving full benenfits to aliens here that never paid a dime in taxes. The law is what the law does, not what the law says. Ask federal border enforcement, the law says they should arrest and deport illegal entrants. They openly defy thier duty for the good of the party they all belong to. The Democrats.

jb80538

May 27th, 2010
8:30 pm

I never got a census form and neither did several of my neighbors. I don’t recal getting one 10 years ago either and no one came to my door then.

Rich Bogard

May 27th, 2010
8:30 pm

For all the truthful facts>>>> Rich Bogard >>>> roberson5111@comcast.net

rick

May 27th, 2010
8:31 pm

Here in TX we look it as trespassing. If I come home and find someone in my house that is not supposed to be there-lets just say I hope their life insurance is paid up. One could get trained guard dogs to watch the place while you are gone. That would be a nice surprize for a pushy census taker. How about a lion or tiger for a pet? Just dont feed them when you leave. Maybe there would be no evidence when you get home.hehe. Yeah, I know that is evil but no more evil than this administration trying to take our rights away. I will have to show them papers, illegals dont. But the illegals will get free stuff anyway. Stuff we pay for.

Bryan M

May 27th, 2010
8:31 pm

Tell them they are required to abide by the Privacy Act of 1974. Tell them to show you in writing how their request to enter someone’s apartment complies with this requirement, on letterhead, complete with their supervisor’s signature. Guess what? Their request doesn’t comply. They are obligated to follow the law too.

Rick in Lorain

May 27th, 2010
8:32 pm

NO ONE, including census workers, landlords or even the police, are not permitted to enter a rented property without lessee’s consent, or in the case of police, a search warrant. If my landlord allowed a census worker into my apartment without my knowledge, I would sue them for every penny I could.

PleaseComeIn

May 27th, 2010
8:32 pm

My gun respectfully and cordially wishes every census worker a nice day after leaving my property.

Cass

May 27th, 2010
8:33 pm

CaptainRamius: The Constitution grants our government the power to enumerate the people, that is ALL. Enumerate means “count.” Not classify, define, divide into groups , etc. Just COUNT. We actually want the government to abide by the Constitution and quit deciding “they know better.”

Hank Rearden

May 27th, 2010
8:35 pm

Having once lived in apartheid South Africa, I have had a bellyful of questions regarding my race. So I don’t answer them. Besides, the US has already abused such information – see below.

Ran Roddeb: regarding confidentiality, I suggest you find an American of Japanese ethnicity who was born before WWII. Ask him how secure the Census Bureau kept his information. Ask him what resulted in his being interred in American concentration camps. And no, given the abuses that are apparent in so much of today’s government (PATRIOT Act, etc.), I don’t believe for a minute that such information won’t be abused again in stressful circumstances.

Liz

May 27th, 2010
8:35 pm

Yeah, if they want to get their head blown off.

vladimir

May 27th, 2010
8:37 pm

i threw away the census form and never home when the reichchancellor’s inquisition comes by. i have an alrm and a 125 lb doberman..let the nazis try and come in.

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:37 pm

Wait till China starts flexing against Taiwan…. you really believe president Soetoro will do a thing… what-with the now impending North Korea thing with SK? *sigh….this Kenyan is now chest deep in his own excrement, and sinking fast.

none

May 27th, 2010
8:39 pm

News to me, the sensus worker is only supposed to return twice if no one answers the door?
I sent in the census form. That sensus guy has been back six times In three weeks. I am a single female. I refuse to answer the door!

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:39 pm

*there’s more census workers in here now than regular bloggers? lmao

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
8:40 pm

Census workers, and all socialist government apologists, are losers, plain and simple. You leftist twits would sell your soul to the deil if it makes you look good to the NY Times, the Eurotrash, Methodists or Hollywood Jews.

At least it’s refreshing to see that Soros and Rahm have sent out the order for the leftnut freaks to “cover” for their man-child from Kenya.Who cares about the Gulf, can’t mess up the Messiah’s vacation, can we?

Jan Goldberg

May 27th, 2010
8:41 pm

I am a “lowly” census taker. Never entered anywhere I wasn’t invited. Just checked REF (refused) when super patriot doesn’t want to give any information.
No trespassing, beware of dog, locked gates – we’re gone. Ask a neighbor if they might know how many trembling patriots lived there as of April 1, 2010 (April fool’s day) and their sex. Approximate age if known.
You fear monger “patriots” make me laugh.
Get a pair of balls, yours are missing.

tom jones

May 27th, 2010
8:42 pm

They better be wearing a bullet proof vest when they force their way into my apartment. Forced entry by an unwelcome intruder is grounds for deadly force.

P Lindsey

May 27th, 2010
8:42 pm

This is pure BS. I’m a Census crew leader and a retired Navy Lieutenant Commander. Nothing in the training manuals authorizes entry in a private residence. In fact, census workers are taught to avoid entering a house or apartment, even when invited in by the resident.

Cook

May 27th, 2010
8:44 pm

Who wouldn’t mind that pretty blond census worker on the commercial going through their underwear drawer.

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:45 pm

a couple months ago, I was approached by a blk FE census worker asking me if I’d like a job working the count?
I said no, then asked her what it pays? she said #8 per hour, I think?
Had to ask, because two days prior, I’d read an article that they were getting payed $14per hr. She said, well, we don’t get payed that much.(she knew I wasn’t going to comply, just by the way we looked at each other)

Jasonn

May 27th, 2010
8:47 pm

I’m looking at the Fourth Amendment and it doesn’t mention any exceptions for census workers.

Liz

May 27th, 2010
8:47 pm

I still haven’t found any proof to this claim. But I am looking although it should be provided by this BLOG!!!!!!!

J.P.

May 27th, 2010
8:47 pm

I can’t believe this. I would never let someone into my place without a warrant. What happened to the constitutuion?

Cook

May 27th, 2010
8:48 pm

Hey Jan Goldberg bite me.

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:49 pm

KONTOS !!! start dropping into “Breitbart Tv” to look at news vids and comment sometime. :o ) Gah-go…. *poof

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:51 pm

LIZ…. look around for Barr articles and an e-dress to write Barr on. Shouldn’t be that tough to find the source?

Will

May 27th, 2010
8:51 pm

Bob,

You are either intentionally wrong or are not good at reading law. No census worker has any right to enter a domicile without the homeowner present. They must be granted access to closed communities, but their access is limited to the front door.

I am an HOA president who did everything possible to block the census workers from entering our community. So I read Title 13 to find out what power I had. The answer is none. The provision you cite is close to correct, but you’re stretching it for shock value.

TITLE 13 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 223

Mashuganah

May 27th, 2010
8:51 pm

Can you reference a specific law for census worker entry? A link to it on http://thomas.loc.gov would be nice. It’s one thing to say something. It’s another to back it up with proof (i.e., be responsible in posting such missives).

Lady Mondegreen

May 27th, 2010
8:52 pm

The language reads:

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects…to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom…”

The wording is very ambiguous. You might at first think it refers to the building or gated complex, but occupants don’t live in the hallways or stairwells. The language refers to the spaces occupied by the occupants, i,e., the apartments.
An overzealous or power-crazed census worker might interpret this space to mean that he has the authority to enter the tenant’s actual domicile.
This could be a very dangerous situation for an unwitting worker who finds himself in someone’s apartment when they get home.

Mike

May 27th, 2010
8:53 pm

I’m a census worker and this is a lot of crap. We count people and we don’t demand entrance into anyones home , either private or property under a Management Company.

LJ84

May 27th, 2010
8:53 pm

I sent back my form with the required info…how many live here…and yet census workers have come here a couple of times. I will not answer the door for them because of some of the stories I’ve read and heard.

A local mom recognized a census taker who was a registered sex offender. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20100518_Mother_recognizes_Census_worker_as_sex_offender.html In another story a woman was raped by a volunteer census worker. http://www.whas11.com/news/local/Burglary-and-rape-arrest-in-Pekin-Indiana-93240824.html There have also been many stories of push in robberies and the like by people pretending to be census workers.

I won’t even answer the door for them after hearing these stories. No way. I put a note on the door addressed to the census taker stating that we answered the census and mailed it back and would provide no further info and would not answer any questions regarding our neighbors.

Cass

May 27th, 2010
8:53 pm

Jan “Ms. Fearless” Goldberg’s insults certainly make a valid and relevant point, don’t they? Very convincing.

An american

May 27th, 2010
8:53 pm

A census worker left my house not 30 mins ago and I answered only 5 questions she asked. What really got me hot though was when she asked if any Latinos or Hispanics lived in the house. She did not ask about any other race! I’m a white male and told her only Americans lived here! I live in southern Mississippi only an hour from new Orleans and see my fair share of people living off the government and see what is going on in America to the writing on the wall. I guess obamas minions are trying to figure out what state he’s going to come and campain in next so he can sway the illegal immigrants to vote for him since he has failed us Americans so badly. It is a crying shame the direction this country has going and we need to stand strong and vote these yahoos out of office. Tough times are ahead so please say some prayers!

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:54 pm

check the Icon, right of Barr’s pic on the top of article. Looked like there are contact e-dresses there.

Helen

May 27th, 2010
8:54 pm

I just ran into a census worker..he was asking questions about the people who live across the street.. I told him I was not telling him anything about any of my neighbors.. I had to laugh when he said he talked to the people next door though he said he had a hard time and got no answers cause they didn’t speak English.. I had to laugh since we talk to them all the time and we only speak ENGLISH.. People just aren’t cooperative as they use to be.. but than again the government is not as honorable as it use to be either..

[...] What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers – from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee – are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.” If the landlord of such apartment or other leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00. [...]

claspur

May 27th, 2010
8:56 pm

Jan sounds like a dildoe-packin’ carpet moungin’ census taker, to me?

GWIII

May 27th, 2010
8:57 pm

I received, and completed the census form, and sent it back. About 3 months later, I have these morons calling me to ask for additional information. I told them there are two people living in my home, Myself and my son. They continued to pester me, so I told them that they are morons and to leave me alone. The thing that bothers me is that the government already knows who all the tax payers are, the data is readily available to them. They need to stop hiring morons and gather only the information requested on the form. This is another example of our government taking a simple task and turning it into a mess.

[...] Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence No Comments [...]

Jane

May 27th, 2010
8:57 pm

I am a census worker and this is a lie. An outright lie. I will NOT do any of the following according to my training: Enter your home (we are told to stay outside), I do not get your Social Security numbers (call the police if anyone claims to be from the census who asks for this info), and we politely ask for a phone number so that my performance can be assessed. As an enumerator I have been threatened verbally and physically. A man actually opened his pen of dogs on me while I asked if I could talk to him. You are the problem, you and others like you who frighten the public into abuse of enumerators. BTW threatening an enumerator is a FEDERAL offense.

Blake

May 27th, 2010
8:57 pm

In California (and I think other states) the landlord must provide two week’s notice before entering an apartment or leased dwelling unless they have the occupant’s consent. If there’s a knock at my door, and I’m not expecting someone, I usually won’t answer. If I hear my door unlock, I’m grabbing my rifle.

This is an accident (is it an accident to shoot an unidentified intruder?) waiting to happen.

Capt Ron

May 27th, 2010
8:57 pm

I will shoot them on sight if they are in the house and I feel threatened

misinformation - 1

May 27th, 2010
8:58 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

misinformation - 1

May 27th, 2010
8:59 pm

Blake.. read and learn before you speak.. fool…

Badactor67

May 27th, 2010
9:00 pm

This would counter numerous city, county and state laws not to mention the constitution. If anyone is on your property without consent they are trespassing and must obtain a signed warrant even city building inspectors can’t search your home without consent or a clear imminent danger. I can’t see how they can legally do that.

Bob

May 27th, 2010
9:01 pm

And what federal statute allows this warrantless search by the census workers who have a few days of training? Sounds like a complete fabrication. I guess AJC doesn’t require fact checking.

misinformation - 2

May 27th, 2010
9:01 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

misinformation - 3

May 27th, 2010
9:02 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Fonzz

May 27th, 2010
9:03 pm

This is the dumbest thing them acting like they don’t know how many of us there are.

Ktwoll

May 27th, 2010
9:04 pm

Lady Mondegreen — Your answer is b.s. People can vote using a mail box as their place of residence. Ask a judge they have rule that many a time. So someone can say a telephone booth or hallway on 53third and Peco’s is their residence.

Jack Wood

May 27th, 2010
9:04 pm

I encourage any suicidal census worker to force his way into my home. Let me help you.

Mike

May 27th, 2010
9:07 pm

This is one reason I have 125lb German Shepherd the will rip them a new A-hole. They can all rot in hell with the rest of the government.

John Mark

May 27th, 2010
9:08 pm

Sent my form in with the number of persons. Nothing else. Census worker showed up to get the rest of the information. I refused to answer. What are they going to do, tax me?

Lisa

May 27th, 2010
9:09 pm

I’m currently working PT for the Census. We have been told that we aren’t allowed to go in the house, even to take their info in their presence. It’s for our safety and theirs. Even during training the trainer told us NOT to even look in the windows. So I’m not sure where you’re getting this info. (BTW, I voted for Barr in 08 instead of Dumb or Dumber). Doing Census for extra money.

Chris of Atlanta

May 27th, 2010
9:09 pm

Census workers wouldn’t be knocking on your door if you would have mailed in your census form in the first place! It is your choice to answer whatever questions you feel like answering. But we will always have people like Bob to tell us how BAD everything is in the country. If the government is so BAD – why don’t you move to another country!

Rambo

May 27th, 2010
9:11 pm

Good enough reason to start shooting census worms.

Joshua D.

May 27th, 2010
9:11 pm

As a temporary Census worker – I can attest that we are trained never to enter someone’s home to avoid any appearance of impropriety. We are not to even open the storm door to knock. Every person on the team acts under the philosophy of treating people the way we would want to be treated. I am sure out of thousands of workers that there may be a bad apple, but mostly we are unemployed neighbors thankful to have meaningful work for a few weeks.

We were fingerprinted and background checks were done, and we work in the same community we live in.

Phineas T. Bluster

May 27th, 2010
9:14 pm

My own little contribution to the census was in the area of race – I chose the other category and specified “Human” because all other labels are man-defined, and since some of my children are adopted and my ancestry is rather murky before the last two generations, I cannot say with any degree of assurance that there are any identifiable racial characteristics from all of my ancestors.

Besides, Human is all they really need to know anyhow.

barney

May 27th, 2010
9:15 pm

Hopefully you would not be scared to death and shoot the intruder right through the eyes.

John Mark

May 27th, 2010
9:16 pm

Jan G: your plastic testicles are very unbecoming.

Joe Schmo

May 27th, 2010
9:18 pm

This Census is a measly 10 questions long, most of which are redundant or obvious to anyone who so much as sees you. 3 of the 5 main questions can be ascertained by simply seeing someone, i.e. a “male, about 45, and caucasian.” If thats intrusive I’d hate to see you applying for a credit card, a loan, an email account, or even a library card. Sure, you may be more comfortable giving that information to private enterprises, but I doubt when Facebook sells your information to advertisers and other corporate stalkers they’re promptly awarded with 5 years prison time and 250,000 dollars in fines (those are the repercussions for census employees that get loosey-goosey with personal information).

The reality is that we can quibble about what we find intrusive and permissible. What isn’t debatable is that NO Census worker is ever allowed to enter a private personal residence, even if invited. It’s pretty shameful for former representative, presidential hopeful, and lawyer to so deliberately misunderstand and misstate the facts. Bob Barr is either lying or incompetent.

Jason

May 27th, 2010
9:18 pm

I did the easy thing. I answered the only required question on the form. The very first one.

The rest of the questions are not required by law, and I ddin’t feel obligated to share the information.

No reason to get paranoid. Answer and move on.

Shelly

May 27th, 2010
9:20 pm

Enumeration. That’s it. I was HOPING a Census worker would stop by and ask me a bunch of questions. I filled out my 10-question form (name and how many in my house. THAT’S IT) and mailed it back…..after I’d received a letter from the govt. telling me to “expect my Census form in the mail”. It was not mailed, it was hand-delivered – while I was napping on a SUNDAY AFTERNOON!!! Please, please, please let them come knocking on my door again. Fine me. Put me in jail. Do whatever. Enumeration ONLY…as per our Constitution. I understand there are attorneys BEGGING to get a case like this. I’m just the kind of hard-headed soul to tell them (the govt) to go punt. And, rather than just stating HERE that I’d do it, I’d actually follow through with it. :) I’m completely sick & tired of the increasing government control that has been steadily encroaching on our lives for YEARS. I’m done “complying”.

BREEE

May 27th, 2010
9:21 pm

As a census crew leader I can say that this is inaccurate and, perhaps, dishonest. As “E Powers” says above: “…a building’s owner or manger cannot refuse to let a census worker into or out of the building and cannot refuse to provide a list of occupants for the purpose of the census count. The penalty for refusal is $500. No where in the section does it authorize entry into individual apartments, lodgings, or ‘living quarters’.
The relevant code section is found at: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Actus Reus

May 27th, 2010
9:23 pm

A censes worker came to my house, was shut down, and returned leaving a note asking for a telephone call. He’s a persistent little muslim loving turd. The last thing I want is to give my liberal idiot run state more federal money. I have a very large family, but if push comes to shove, I’ll tell the sensus worker I live alone.

Kathy

May 27th, 2010
9:24 pm

Um, no, Bob. In fact, you’re completely wrong.
I have a (temporary) job with the Census and we have all been directed NOT to enter anyone’s home, apartment, whatever, EVEN IF they invite us in. The part of the Title 13 code quoted above is intended to ensure access to apartment buildings, gated communities, and the like.

If a Census worker asks to enter your home, call the Census Bureau and report it. The worker will almost certainly be fired. If a Census worker enters your home without your permission, call the police and the Census Bureau and report it. The worker will be fired, and arrested.

And please.. in future columns make use some of the experience and logic your blog’s tagline boasts of.

Bill

May 27th, 2010
9:25 pm

When I filled out the Census form this year, I took a good look at it. I noticed that it was rather racist in nature: It asked if a person was white, black, Hispanic, Japanese, Korean, Chinese… When I saw that they were looking for actual nationality (as far as the Asian side went), my mind was made up, and that is why “American” was written in as the nationality of myself, my wife, and my children. It’s only fitting, since we were all born in the US, as were my parents and my wife’s parents.

If they wanted to list various European nationalities, then I would probably have most of the nations listed checked-off.

joseph

May 27th, 2010
9:25 pm

I am a census crew leader, and my enumerators have been strictly warned to NEVER enter a residence. Please stop making this process more difficult. We have had one enumerator shot at and another had a rifle pointed at his face. The only thing the enumerator wants to do is fill out the form and move on . . . just answer the questions! Every refusal costs the government more money!

Mike

May 27th, 2010
9:25 pm

Everyone who wonders how all this is possible and why we dont have any rights needs to google and read Mercier-Invisible contracts (law as legal slavery) (1984) That will put you on the trail of why.. and also if you follow the bread crumbs it can lead you out of slavery as well.

Jan

May 27th, 2010
9:26 pm

Look…most of the Census workers are simply people who have lost their jobs elsewhere or are looking to make a little extra $. Many are retired or unemployed professionals. The enumerators are racially, religiously, economically and socially diverse.
Under NO circumstances are they to enter anyone’s home. What would they gain? Do you think they are trained to go through the possessions of the occupants with the hope of getting personal information to provide to the government?
Also—-the law only requires that the respondant provides the number of people who live and sleep at a particular address. If you have already submitted yoiur form and someone still shows up at your door, it has NOTHING to do with refusing to answer questions (as long as the # of residents is provided). It simply means that your form has been misplaced or was received too late to record before sending the door to door enumerators. This is government work, after all, and it is anything but efficient.
Blaming the Census enumerators, sicking your dog on them, or threatening them in any way is idiotic. Let them do their job..if you don’t care to answer, that is your preogative. This is still America.

BREEE

May 27th, 2010
9:27 pm

I concur entirely:
“I am a census worker and this is a lie. An outright lie. I will NOT do any of the following according to my training: Enter your home (we are told to stay outside), I do not get your Social Security numbers (call the police if anyone claims to be from the census who asks for this info), and we politely ask for a phone number so that my performance can be assessed. As an enumerator I have been threatened verbally and physically. A man actually opened his pen of dogs on me while I asked if I could talk to him. You are the problem, you and others like you who frighten the public into abuse of enumerators. BTW threatening an enumerator is a FEDERAL offense.”

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
9:27 pm

Who give’s a rat’s arse what some leftist twit gubmint worker’s MANUAL or training course says. Barr is talking about an ambiguously worded statute that the statist Obamists would definitely use to enter your dwelling without notice.

I absolutely love the guy who claims to be a retired USN LCDR and now has one of them Obama stimulus jobs as a census slug -righto, matey!

Lisa

May 27th, 2010
9:28 pm

“Census workers, and all socialist government apologists, are losers, plain and simple.”

I am NOT a socialist government apologist. I’m just a wife who’s husband’s hours were cut and we’re both working for the Census trying to make up the difference & catch up. Husband has been having trouble finding a full-time job thanks to Obama’s stupidity.

Panagiota Kontos you really have no clue who’s working for the Census. In fact my crew leader was trashing Obama & all his brainwashed numbskulls the other day as was one of my co-workers. I was very pleased to hear this from them.

Loesje Shema

May 27th, 2010
9:29 pm

@YehudaSF: I am an intelligent adult, capable of being corrected on a subject without bursting into tears or reacting with unreasonable anger. I am also capable of apologizing when I misunderstood or misquoted something. Everything I wrote tonight was in a reasonable and respectful tone. When someone attacks me as virulently as you did, it says more about you than me. As far as I am concerned, when you start calling names it’s because you have stopped using your G-d-given brain.

Jenny Bea

May 27th, 2010
9:30 pm

E Mastors- I’m glad you clarified, because when I read this, it made no sense. First of all, I know that under my state law, my landlord has to give me notice of entering my apartment, unless its an emergency, like a fire. Otherwise, I can sue her. I can’t deny her, but she must give me notice. So there’s one conflict with what the article said. The landlord can simply tell the census worker how many leases, and how many tenants on a lease.

The second conflict is if the census worker can simply enter my home… what if I don’t answer the door when they knock, because I’m asleep? (or something else??) I’m armed, and if someone were to walk in my house during nappy time, I will shoot them. ESPECIALLY given the crimes recently about census workers and people posing as census workers going and attacking people and raping women. I will shoot and shoot to kill, as I am legally licensed to do. So there’s another conflict of interest.

The census worker can DEMAND all they want, but that does not mean I must comply. I know what I’m required to give, and I know what their limits are, and it does not include- as this article leads the reader to think, that the census worker can simply come on in, and start counting folks, bedrooms, flushing toilets and how many coin-filled pickle jars I have.

Again, thanks for looking up the actual law, though- I too noticed that Barr did not give any links. Maybe he’s a bit paranoid.

Jan

May 27th, 2010
9:30 pm

Actus Reus – Enumerators are required to come to your house personally 6 times – that is why they are persistent. If you do not give them at least the basic info, they WILL get it from a neighbor.

Census Worker

May 27th, 2010
9:31 pm

This is complete and utter hogwash. I am a Crew Leader with the Census Bureau and supervise 14 enumerators. There is NOTHING in any handbook that even hints at this sort of intrusion as an acceptable procedure to obtain census information from a household.

All of us census workers are just regular folk who are working the census as a temporary job to earn some extra cash. Good grief. If any of my enumerators were to go into a home without the owner’s permission I’d fire them.

Pat Dennis

May 27th, 2010
9:31 pm

Does George Orwell’s 1984 come to mind when you read this article??

john

May 27th, 2010
9:33 pm

plz come into my home when im asleep or away. my dogs will tear you up. it is posted Guard Dogs on site.i have a class 3 fire arms license, and cc license. all my weapons are locked up in a gun safe.but im still responsible if they come up missing hence the dogs and alarm system. so come in when im not home. PLEASE!

Linda

May 27th, 2010
9:34 pm

Census working gain entry into my security building and left me two notices to answer her, call her to fill out my census. I finally called her and told her I already filled out my form at my previous address, one mile up the road. She wanted to know if the apartment was empty on April 1st. Yes. then she still wanted my name and address of the residence where i lived and filled out the form.

Census Worker

May 27th, 2010
9:35 pm

Jan, you are incorrect. An enumerator may make a MAXIMUM of 3 personal visits to a home. He may also make an additional three attempts by telephone. That is a total of 6 attempts to contact an occupant.

Jenny Bea

May 27th, 2010
9:35 pm

@ the census workers- I feel badly for you and your job being made so difficult, and its because of people like Bob Barr, stirring up people’s paranoia. I only answered my name, age and that I’m the only one living here. I didn’t answer anything else, as it’s not required… a census worker came to my house, anyway. She was far from threatening, and I was nice- although I was armed, just in case. There’s no point in being mean. I’m as conservative as they come, and know the Constitution demands it. The Constitution also protects the citizen, so all this paranoia is really getting ugly. Barr should be taken with a grain of salt with things like these- and I feel badly for making things harder on you.

phil

May 27th, 2010
9:36 pm

I’m not all that political, and when I am I tend to lean right, but lets get rid of this idiot. Whatever side you’re on.

Chip

May 27th, 2010
9:36 pm

An empty living quarter is worthless to census enumerators. They need somebody to interview. Saying census workers are going to enter your home and rob you is fear mongering.

James

May 27th, 2010
9:37 pm

How about you take the 5 minutes to fill out the form and stop crying about all this. People who are simply too lazy to answer a few questions bug me. As far as the person saying he could afford to leave this country if it weren’t for taxes. I say where there is a will there is a way; good riddance to you.

Smartie

May 27th, 2010
9:37 pm

http://www.ancestry.com/charts/census.aspx

You guys should check out the various census forms available at the above address. I suggest 1930 first and see just how invasive a census for can be. Then check out 1800, for most of you conservative nut jobs listening to Barr, I think this will be more to your liking, slaves and all. Learn to think for yourselves sheep

Joe

May 27th, 2010
9:38 pm

Under the law of the jungle, my rottweiller has the power to bite a chunk out of their ass in my absence.

Lisa

May 27th, 2010
9:40 pm

“She wanted to know if the apartment was empty on April 1st. Yes. then she still wanted my name and address of the residence where i lived and filled out the form.”

Wrong, she didn’t count you. She was using you as a proxy for the apartment. She has to put down whoever told her the place was empty. The phone number is in case her supervisor wants to make sure she’s actually working.

Shana

May 27th, 2010
9:40 pm

All of you crying about your constitutional rights, Article 1 section 2 of the Constitution is the census clause. It was one of the very first things written in the sacred document. I hate it too, but until congress votes to amend the constitution to remove some of their power, we will suffer ever more intrusive meddling. So I guess that will be when pigs fly.

Richard

May 27th, 2010
9:41 pm

I filled out the census form but mailed it in a few weeks ago(there was no due date on it).
But for the last week, we have been harassed by an over-zealous census worker.
I explained to him that it had been mailed in and that it will soon be amongst those received….NOT good enough!

He demanded that I answer all the questions all over again, directly to him since I was late mailing it in!
I told him I did not think so, h left me his little door tag and has returned to my home FOUR times…expecting me to give him my personal info.
He stated the last time that he’ll have to put me down as a “REFUSED” to participate and that shouldn’t be surprised if I get another visit or a fine of $5000.

Looks like I should have sent the census certified-mail so I had some proof that I did not “refuse” to participate.
I called the regional office and they said that yes, I MUST give out my personal info again…. to this stranger.
Unbelievable
Is this for real?

Abrazos

May 27th, 2010
9:42 pm

Mr. Barr, now do you see how reckless you were by blogging “Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence”? You have people posting that they want to shoot, KILL, fellow Americans who are just trying to do a job for some extra cash: retirees, grandmothers, college students, unemployed folks who want to have gainful employment, if only temporarily. You have set loose the unhinged feeding off the paranoia of the fellow unhinged.

I do not know if you are capable of feeling shame, but this might be a good time to muster up some. Words have power to inspire or incite. What if one of these cretins actually does shoot a census worker because they believe you? Will you step up and admit culpability, or will you hide behind “journalistic freedom” or some other weak-kneed avoidance technique to deny the fact that you shouted “fire” in a crowded room?

Bob

May 27th, 2010
9:42 pm

While you are correct that folks are required to answer the census, as one of the annoying enumerators I have to correct you about entering peoples property against their will. At least here in NYC, we must vacate the premises if asked, and under no circumstances are allowed to enter a persons domicile-even if invited!

In addition, if someone refuses to be interviewed, we aren’t supposed to argue; but simply refer the “case” up the chain-of-command. Then a letter is sent reminding them that they must answer the census.

Perhaps things are being handled differently elsewhere, but here in NY the rules are pretty rigid…

All the best to you Mr. Barr. I have admired your opinions and ideas for some time!

Standish

May 27th, 2010
9:46 pm

This is exactly why we need to not only scale back the SIZE of government, but to scale back the power that government, and in particular federal government, has taken upon itself and assumed, despite the clear limits set on it by the Constitution. We must insist on a much more limited federal government, for the sake of everyone’s freedom.

Southern Steve

May 27th, 2010
9:47 pm

The odd thing here is how many liberals cite the Constitution when it comes to the census, but call it irrelevant regarding all other matters. Do the same folk support the 1st amendment?

Karen Clarke

May 27th, 2010
9:48 pm

I hope they can deal with my very protective German Shepherd.

John Rebelde

May 27th, 2010
9:49 pm

Goons, thugs, attorneys, teachers etc. you are not invited. Keep out.

Kristin

May 27th, 2010
9:50 pm

This is total BS!!!! Free country my a$$…. we have no recourse if they enter ans steal anything and who is this stranger coming into my home! A Census worker which could become a stalker, may be a criminal! Wait for it in the news, we’ll hear about a crime coming out of this.

Teehee

May 27th, 2010
9:50 pm

I was too busy managing all the hope and change in my life so we forgot about the census. One saturday I’m raking branches under my tree when a young lady shows up. She asked me a bunch of questions politely, when we got to personal ones that I didn’t feel were necessary such as my birthdate I politely asked do you need to know that? She’d skip to the next one and in less than 10 minutes she was on her way.

I’m a conservative, I thought there might be a coupla russian thugs or two showing up with cops but no. It was all very benign…..I yawned afterwards and wondered about all the hoopla.

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
9:52 pm

“I’m from the gubmint, and I’m here to help” — about 2/3 of the idiots here (the SHEEPLE Dr. Savage often refers to) really do believe this. How sad, the results of the dumbing down of education thanks to the unions and the self-loathing, whiny, pencil-necked, Christian-hating geeks of the Left. Anyone remember that twerp Adlai Stevenson?

I immigrated to this country to escape the rampant socialism/atheism being propogated in Europe. Those who are with us are getting stronger every day, we will not allow this obomination to spread.

JEANNETTE

May 27th, 2010
9:53 pm

This is complete b.s. I work for the census. After 4 tries we give up. No one is charged anything. And your information is then shredded.

Teehee

May 27th, 2010
9:53 pm

Southern Steve, you said, “The odd thing here is how many liberals cite the Constitution when it comes to the census, but call it irrelevant regarding all other matters. Do the same folk support the 1st amendment?”

I’ve often thought the same thing about libs. Which is why we need to vote them all out in Nov 2010, they are certifiably insane people and should be banned from our government!

Proliferate Dukies

May 27th, 2010
9:53 pm

I made the mistake of listing all my children who live with me on the form, which is more than the form has preprinted places for, but fewer than the max places to list residents with DOB. Had I known that if one used more than 6 places, that this would raise a red flag to the Census, I would have stopped there.
When they first started calling, I thought it was a scam. Then they left a message, and I looked up the number. I called back, and even corrected the spelling of one kid who was so obviously John not JOAN, being male and everything. Then the insulting questions which implied I could not think nor count. I told him our interview was over.
They are calling my machine daily, and one worker has come in a very briefly opened front gate (only to leave very soon thereafter). I have done my duty to report; but they are convinced that I am some uneducated person who needs help understanding instructions and counting children. When will they stop?

papapo

May 27th, 2010
9:54 pm

I agree with Mahakala. Anyone found in my home or anyone who enters my home without permission, Had better have next of kin instructions.

Paul Revere

May 27th, 2010
9:55 pm

The entire Government, minus a precious few are a giant pile of maggot infested vomit chunks.

NO INCUMBENTS 2012!

Jan

May 27th, 2010
9:56 pm

If a Census worker is “demanding” information, call the police.

ANyone

May 27th, 2010
9:56 pm

And they wonder why we hate the government so much. Good luck getting out of my home alive if you enter aginst my wishes.

Jim

May 27th, 2010
9:56 pm

Hey Bob, when you were in Congress, did you ever introduce a bill that would expressly forbid such things given that the Constitution is pretty much ignored nowadays? Or did you just go with the flow like all the other Republicans?

Cat

May 27th, 2010
9:57 pm

During my Census Enumerator training last month were we instructed NOT to enter anyone’s home to conduct an interview (of course you sometimes ended up inside). We were instructed to be vigilant in finding a “proxy” to answer questions about a neighbor or tenant if no one was home — knock on neighbor’s doors, ring other’s doorbells, etc. The training manual also advised wearing sneakers in case you had to run!

patricia andrews

May 27th, 2010
9:59 pm

one of the big questions would lead to whether a person is here legally or illegally seems everyone needs to be counted looks like this would be a good road to follow to eliminate illegals and send them back where they came from with their kin

[...] Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence [...]

jeepguy

May 27th, 2010
10:00 pm

I love how people qoute the constitution when it workers for their argument but then completely ignore it later. Isn’t their something in some document about search and seizure? Yes they are to count but please remember who they were to be counting when the document was written. You can’t quote a document out of context. Or maybe you can and that is how we have this new health care program?
For those who think that all census workers are good or bad you are all idiots. But due caution is advised when hiring people using tax payer money. I just want to know if it is true about all of the financial waste and false counting of job creation. Because that to me is fraud, and as tax payer I want some accountability

Joe Schmo

May 27th, 2010
10:01 pm

@ Southern Steve

Us liberals were concerned with the Patriot Act and the suspension of Habeus Corpus. The Constitution doesn’t stop at the 2nd amendment. There’s a lot of common ground between the poles and most of the differences are inflated by hyperbole – hyperbole like arguing that census workers are allowed to enter your residence, despite being expressly prohibited from doing just that.

I’m a bit worried about the people who “hope” to have unwelcome people in their homes so they have license to “defend” themselves and kill someone. Thankfully you psychos are going to have to wait a while to get your opportunity to murder someone because no census worker is going to come into your house invited or otherwise.

misinformation - 4

May 27th, 2010
10:01 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

dan

May 27th, 2010
10:01 pm

Go ahead and fine me. I’m not paying it and you’re not getting in. Did you know that any sheriff has the Constitutional power to throw the feds out of town? Shove your fine up your fat aszes feds.

Jeff Johnson

May 27th, 2010
10:03 pm

If someone comes into the apartment against my will, I will put a bullet through their head and list it as self defense. How does that sound, Mr Jack Booted Thug Tyrant Government worker? Stay out of my business and out of my home, or pay a price.

Jan

May 27th, 2010
10:03 pm

This entire thread represents to unrest and distrust that prevails in this country right now. The Census has been conducted for decades and has never been an issue in the past.

We are headed for trouble.

misinformation - 5

May 27th, 2010
10:04 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Lady Mondegreen

May 27th, 2010
10:05 pm

Ktwoll–I was not arguing about whether or not someone might claim a hallway or stairwell as their residence. I was referring to the ambiguity of the language, which seems to be vague about whether the census worker may enter only the spaces outside the rented space, or the rented space itself.
But let’s say a homeless person was using a stairwell in an apartment building as his temporary domicile. In that case, regardless of the intended meaning of the language, the squatter would not have the right to refuse “entry” to “his” appropriated space, since he probably never made any agreement or contract with the building owner or manager. Even if he had, the space is still a common area accessible not only to the paying residents, but to any public official, including census workers.

MUHAMMED ATTA

May 27th, 2010
10:05 pm

They came to my door, I opened it and announced that he appeared to be a colored child molestor, and that he should go have sexual intercourse with himself. then I tased him and allowed the neighborhood cats to spray on his convulsing body. or something like that.

misinformation - 6

May 27th, 2010
10:05 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Mike

May 27th, 2010
10:06 pm

It only stands to reason that the Obama administration is also disregarding our Fourth Amendment protection against illegal search and seizure, which was adopted as a response to the abuse of the writ of assistance, which is a type of general search warrant, in the American Revolution. Search (and/or arrest) should be limited in scope according to specific information supplied to the issuing court, usually by a law enforcement officer, who has sworn by it. In fact, the Supreme Court has also ruled that certain searches and seizures violated the Fourth Amendment even when a warrant was properly granted.

FOURTH AMENDMENT:
‘The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.’

This actually happened to a college instructor friend on mine . . .a census worker showed up at her door and she gave the necessary information. Afterward, the worker began asking many other question that became invasive. My friend told the worker to leave and and the worker stated to her that he worked for the government and did not have to leave.
My friend called police and the “government worker” left only after trying to argue with police who then ordered the census taker off the property.

Southern Steve

May 27th, 2010
10:06 pm

JEANNETTE , give up after 4 tries? No you don’t. Two years ago I was sent one of those off year census forms, the one with multiple pages and 100+ questions. I ignored it since the Constitution only requires a headcount every 10 years. For months I was called at least twice a day. Allhours morning and evening. They left messages but I ignored them. One Saturday, about three or four months and hundreds of attempted phone calls later, I had a phone call and it did not say “US Census”. I reluctantly answered and it was a census worker who was at my front gate (my house sits way back off the road). She asked if she could come in but I explained that I was on my way to an appointment. She said it would only take a few minutes so I opened my remote gate opener and let her in. Over an hour later she was finished asking some very personal questions, most of which I answered “none of your business”. JEANNETTE , are you sure you quit after 4 tries?

misinformation - 7

May 27th, 2010
10:07 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

ron

May 27th, 2010
10:07 pm

Enter your comments here
Here;s an Idea! Send all those census workers to the border line them up and have them ask for information from the millions crossing our border ILLEGALLY!

Nitram

May 27th, 2010
10:07 pm

I would welcome a census worker coming into my home thinking I was not there. I could give them a 9mm welcome or perhaps a .45acp welcome or maybe a .40sw welcome and if I really want to welcome them I’d give a 12ga welcome. It’s good to have choices. MMMMM…good.

misinformation - 8

May 27th, 2010
10:08 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Windwarrior

May 27th, 2010
10:08 pm

As a census worker employed in the midwest, I must rebut this post. Census workers are expressly prohibited from entering a housing unit, even if invited it. True, gated communities and apartment complexes must allow census workers access to the housing units, but they are not allowed to enter without the occupant present.

As far as the questions, you probably have more “intrusive” or personal info on your face book page. The questionaire asks for the number of people living at a location as of Apr 1st, their names, gender, age, birthdate, race, and if they consider themselves of hispanic origin, and if the housing unit is owned or rented. Anyone can refuse to answer any particular question, or not to answer the the form at all.

ron

May 27th, 2010
10:09 pm

Wouldn’t this fall under illegal search and seizure? Violation of Constitutional rights.

Susanna Smith

May 27th, 2010
10:09 pm

I am sickened by the threats against census workers that are posted here. What do you people think you are doing? Who do you think you are calling thugs and goons? Some older folks, students and other unemployed people trying to make a buck by upholding the Constitution of the USA? A lady from the census came t6o see me. I had already mailed mine in but I guess it was late in arriving. All it took was 5 minutes to answer the questions. I have nothing to hide. She was really nice and to think that this lady is now being labeled all kinds of horrible things by you ignorant idiots who don’t bother to check things out is disgusting. Get a life. Go threaten someone of your own ilk. Isn’t it against the law to make threats against the life of others? If it isn’t, it should be. Mr. Barr is doing us a great disservice but writing such rot.

bobby62914

May 27th, 2010
10:10 pm

Boortz said it best; “Bob, you ignorant slut…”

William

May 27th, 2010
10:10 pm

I don’t always answer my door. I really feel sorry for a poor temporarily employed census worker who comes into my house without my permission. Sorry, I have no way of knowing who you are, and by entering my property without invitation it’s an invitation for the Taurus Judge to do the talking. My family’s safety comes before the stupid intrusive census.

Billy Jo Bob Jim Bob

May 27th, 2010
10:12 pm

Go, Mr. Barr! Census workers are are searching our homes at night and delivering our secrets to ACORN. They work for the freemasons in conjunction with the new world order! If you don’t give into their demands, you will be placed in a FEMA camp. Glenn Beck is a genius. The south shall rise again!

Mike

May 27th, 2010
10:12 pm

Yehuda, you are the best guy on here. Your comments are direct and spot on. I will research the enumeration of Jews by myself for my own satisfaction. Thank you.

Joe Schmo

May 27th, 2010
10:12 pm

@ Nitram

It’s sick that you so obviously fantasize about killing people. Here’s hoping you get those anger issues checked out!

Bryan

May 27th, 2010
10:12 pm

Bob, This article is plain wrong. I am currently working for the census and your statements have no merit to what we were trained to do.

misinformation - 10

May 27th, 2010
10:12 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

excop

May 27th, 2010
10:13 pm

As a matter or record, Census workers, or anyone else for that matter, are perfectly welcome to enter my home at any time I’m not there. I’ve absolutely no objections. However, they just might have to explain their presence to my four Great Danes plus my Rottweiler. Those guys are pretty possessive!

Mike

May 27th, 2010
10:13 pm

Census Workers. We understand that you are trained not to enter people’s homes. You do not need to repeat yourselves.

misinformation *

May 27th, 2010
10:14 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

The Ghost of Spalding Smails' Booger

May 27th, 2010
10:14 pm

Myth: “@ Southern Steve

Us liberals were concerned with the Patriot Act and the suspension of Habeus Corpus.”

Fact: The Patriot Act passed 98-1-1 in the Senate and got 313 votes in the House. That looks pretty bipartisan to me. And it’s amazing that the dems have been able to pass it off as a Republican atrocity.

I also guess you were asleep at the wheel when he House Democrats voted to extend the Patriot Act this past February.

Jeff Johnson

May 27th, 2010
10:14 pm

Joe, you “liberals” are the people who have forced upon us an eroding of our freedom and our morals. You only care about the Patriot act because you want “license” to practice your particular brand of immorality, and you admire the anti-USA terrorists. Hence, NAMBLA, USA Communists Party, CAIR, ACLU and similar organizations paid for by liberals.

Tell you what partner. If you don’t think you or the government have the right to invade someones home or privacy, then you don’t have to worry about getting shot. You are not going to take away a persons right to self defense. We don’t give a damn what you think. But if you want to take away our guns, at least have to balls to knock on my door yourself than cowardly send a “government worker” down to do your dirty work.

But you won’t defend you family. What you are going to do is squeal to 9-11 when you hear a bump in the night, then sue the police department for punching the rapist during the arrest. What you call “rights” are not rights at all. Try focusing on the right to privacy, self defense, and pursuit of happiness. Notice I did not mention free health care…

jeepguy

May 27th, 2010
10:14 pm

I am truly amazed, let me get this right the constitution states the government most conduct a census every ten years and come hell or high water you will be counted. The constitution also says I have the right to keep and bear arms but if I walk around my neighbor with a gun on my hip the cops will be called in a New York minute. Again please seek the original meaning that the founders had for the census and if you need further information GO FISH

misinformation * 1

May 27th, 2010
10:14 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Jan

May 27th, 2010
10:14 pm

Mike – just trying to balance the comments….

troy

May 27th, 2010
10:15 pm

Let them enter and let me catch them in the act when they leave and i have beaten them half to death it would be there word against mine. Census worker you claim my client physically assulted you. Yes your honor when he came home and caught me in his home. Your honor could the cesus worker please prove that my client did this and could you please show me the warrant that allowed you to enter my clients house. Your honor I move for this case to be dissmissed on the grounds that my clients forth and fifth amendment rights were violated. Case dissmissed.

misinformation * 2

May 27th, 2010
10:15 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

misinformation * 3

May 27th, 2010
10:16 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

misinformation * 4

May 27th, 2010
10:17 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Retta

May 27th, 2010
10:17 pm

Instead of fear mongering, try something constructive: outlining census reform. The USPO is having to close facilities because of decreased mail. Why not merge the USPO and other agencies–perhaps including Census Bureau,Department of Immigration, Bureau of Statistics etc.–all people tracking agencies into one Citizens Bureau (and, by attrition, cut the government payrolll– and, using change of address notices which, for primary residences would be required, require periodic reporting of statistics only (w/o names). This information is spread over various computers for people here legally anyway–and if you don’t believe this info is already in a multitude of computers–gov’t and private, your a wee bit simple minded. [driver' license/state photo ID; schools; voter registration, birth certificates, jury lists, deed records, car titles, taxing authorities...; then there is the multitude of private computers--business of every possible ilk] Those who oppose a mandatory national ID and/or uniform state photo ID with the mistaken belief that their privacy would somehow be more protected without one are, also, a wee bit simple. I am able to support a national photo ID because the potential threats from people we, as a nation, don’t even know are here grows with each days influx of illegals and because of the jobs issues AND becauseI know I’m not doing anything for which I should be ashamed or arrested. It is the paranoid and guilty that oppose ID’s. The only way to stop the tide of illegals is to stop the hiring of them and stop providing government services to them and the only way to do that is to have a way to verify citizenship. If the illegals are not hear, they will need no services and there will be no need to count them. With a running numbers total being kept by consolidated agencies, neither the inconvenience nor the massive money investment to count the law abiding citizens every ten years will not be necessary

Jimmie

May 27th, 2010
10:17 pm

I have been a Census Enumerator for about 6 weeks now. Extremely interesting.
I am finding out just how good I have it when I see so many unfortunate people.
The only problem I have had is some people’s attitude because they lack the knowledge
just how the Census helps them, and oh the women that answer the door’s in just
there towel’s

misinformation * 5

May 27th, 2010
10:18 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Jim

May 27th, 2010
10:19 pm

Bob and the readers who believe this trite are nothing but uninformed suckers. This is a 100% complete fallacy. Please, educate yourselves before you make such ignorant and dumb opinions on politics and the government.

misinformation * 5

May 27th, 2010
10:20 pm

Taiwan pays someone to keep track of each household in a few block area on an ongoing basis.. all move in’s and move outs are recorded.. that is what we need.. very smart… ;)

Giles Otter

May 27th, 2010
10:20 pm

I’ve read in the paper that several citizens have been shot by agents of the governmental police state for refusing to answer questions and for doing so by brandishing their 2nd amendment rights. I guess that they will no longer be counted. A census worker appeared at my door, despite my having sent in the form. She wanted to know what drugs I used and how often I used them. As an otter, whose diet is mostly crawfish and frogs, I am concerned about the drugs which they have absorbed. In any case, she decided that I was too old to be of use in the study. Gotta swim.

No Sources?

May 27th, 2010
10:20 pm

This surely false and certainly not journalism; otherwise, Barr would have cited something. He’s probably just confusing “entrance to the grounds” with “entrance to your apartment”. People need to chill.

misinformation * 6

May 27th, 2010
10:20 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

B-Man

May 27th, 2010
10:21 pm

I’m in the Metro Atlanta area and mailed my census form in 4 days after i rec’d it. Two times I have been left the “census notice”. As for the blog post, I could really care less what Bob Barr has to say about anything (i didn’t even read the article), but it really is somewhat creepy, as well as annoying.

Why is this annoying or creepy to me?
Other than the fact that some total stranger has apparently been knocking on my door to ask me personal questions that I have already answered? I’m 46 and this is the 1st time in my life that any type of Gov’t worker (at any level) has knocked on my door and left notes. My father, who is 72 sent his census form in (as he always has) also got a visit from a census worker. My father is a good and patient man so he gladly answered the questions. But, at 72, it was the first time in his life that something like that had happened. Creepy.

I really don’t mind helping out with the census, which is why i mailed my form in, And if I’m ever actually at home during a visit I suppose I will answer them again. But, If I have to do this in-person thing, I may opt to ask the census worker for their ID. And no, I’m not talking about your census ID. I may ask for your DL and have you wait while I make a copy. I figure if you (the census worker) have my name, address and phone number, and there’s nothing creepy about it, then you wouldn’t mind if I had your personal information as well? If you think of it those terms, it probably becomes somewhat creepy to you, yea?

At the end of the day, and at it’s very best …it’s uncomfortable.

misinformation * 7

May 27th, 2010
10:21 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

jeepguy

May 27th, 2010
10:21 pm

Jimmie- exactly how does it help them?

E.numerator

May 27th, 2010
10:23 pm

I like Bob Barr generally, but I’m damn glad to have my temporary census job and I am not allowed to cross your threshold. If you get huffy, I am supposed to walk away and write down “refused to answer questions” and fill out more paperwork. This time, Bob is reading the law incorrectly. Much like almost everyone is “misreading” or “not reading” Arizona SB1070.

Rowdy

May 27th, 2010
10:23 pm

Actually, this is not true. In fact in the census bureau training manual, census takers are told NOT to enter a dwelling for their own safety. Plus, when a person of “sworn authority” ie: LE wants to enter your house without permission, they must have a search warrant. Do you really think every census taker has a fist full of blank search warrants? Under the United States Constitution, only the FIRST question is required to be answered. This is a HEAD count…not a data collecting service. However, people are intimidated into giving in to these little storm troopers and spewing forth all manner of information. Just say NO!

“To the poster who characterized census workers as “goons, thugs, etc.” I am currently an enumerator and am a former advertising executive. Among those on my team are an attorney, a former research analyst for major pharmaceutical companies, a school teacher, a 28-year veteran Chief Petty Officer, and a realtor. Our sister team includes a couple of engineers. I would expect that any of their resumes’ would compete quite nicely with your own.”

Frankly Geechee, I don’t care what your curriculum vitae contains. The majority of census takers in this census are thugs, goons and all manner of miscreants. This is the most ill organized, most expensive charade of a census in this nation’s history.

If anyone has any doubts about a census taker in their are, call your local police. File a complaint if need be. People need to educate themselves on this colossal mess, but most of all…be smart. Answer “how many people in household” and walk away. Threats of fining people will bring a massive class action lawsuit.

misinformation * 7

May 27th, 2010
10:23 pm

the form may have been lost, mishandled, destroyed or not filled out properly… or possibly still sitting under a pile of mail at your house.. maybe you forgot to mail it… all reasons someone will knock at your door.. duh..

misinformation * 8

May 27th, 2010
10:24 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Lisa

May 27th, 2010
10:24 pm

“Census Workers. We understand that you are trained not to enter people’s homes. You do not need to repeat yourselves.”

The fact that it’s being repeated should bear witness that there are lots of us and we’re all saying the same thing (I’m in Missouri, BTW). And THIS Census worker is on the libertarian/conservative side of things who voted for Barr in 08 instead of Dumb or Dumber. However, with this article, I’m kinda glad he didn’t win (not that he stood a chance anyway). I’m disappointed that a Libertarian would write an article like this that could get a Census worker hurt or killed.

I”m not some creepy socialist trying to steal your identity or invade your privacy. I’m just trying to earn a few extra bucks & make up for the fact that my husband’s hours were cut & he hasn’t found a full-time job yet, thanks to Obama. Kinda ironic that I’m HELPING Obama the slug as a result of his policies being the reason hubby can’t find a job, but whatever. I’m the one that got the extra $300 check in the mail yesterday.

Mr Smith

May 27th, 2010
10:25 pm

Reasonsjester

May 27th, 2010
10:27 pm

These liberals who think that the Obama administration’s activities are standard fare in a free country are simply out to lunch. It’s best not to even argue with them – they are irredeemably hopeless and hapless products of the state-run public miseducation system.

Everything will seem OK until a disaster comes, and then they are the first ones running around asking conservatives what the hell to do and why the government isn’t doing more. Here’s a newsflash – the government loves crises because it gives them something to fix and they usually wind up giving the government more power and control. That is why the government is “inept” and a “conspiracy”!

Incidentally, the government is organized as a conspiracy, as in political elites conspiring to keep themselves in power. Do you think a 90%-95% re-election rate for incumbents in most election years is a coincidence? That 95% of teachers, professors, and journalists are state-worshiping morons? Oh yes, you group-thinking intellectuals along with your lower-class miseducated wards of the state share a brain, and yet you liberals always seem to think you are intellectually superior to everyone else. You are laughably useless idiots, all of you.

Dr. Bunson

May 27th, 2010
10:27 pm

Dog food for my Doberman. It can read resumes.

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
10:28 pm

In my red state, most of the workers are not liberals. Most of them are conservatives. Moreover, they do NOT work for ACORN. Given the stringency of the background checks and the way ACORN seems to have no standards for their workers I would be surprised if any ACORN workers got through. The people that have the best “in” to this temporary federal job are veterans and disabled veterans.
As for the nonsense going around about cooking the books on labor stats, this is a misunderstanding of the enumerators who are telling these stories in the NYPost. Census workers are hired for a period of two months. Like any federal temp worker, when one’s badge is expired, one has to be re-hired. This is not unique to the census. It is a common security and personnel process in federal work. Also, there are several different census operations in this short period of time, which have different sets of training. Thus the claim in the NYP that enumerators are being trained and released is accurate, but only because in many areas the work itself doesn’t take very long, but it doesn’t matter how long it will take, the training is the same.
I don’t really understand why YOU want to waste the taxpayers’ money. If you didn’t send in the form, or did it wrong in some way, instead of costing YOU 49 cents, you forced the Census to test, hire, train, and send an enumerator after you, and that worker gets paid for his time and his mileage. The more times they have to put a note on your door, the more MONEY YOU are enabling them to make, which comes from YOU, the taxpayer.

Save time, save money. Answer the question. By the next census there will be so much centralized data on you anyway (not to mention the universal ID and medical card they are ALREADY working on which will contain your fingerprints), 90 percent of census work won’t be needed.

Somehow, I don’t think you’ll like that a lot better. I know I won’t.

Dr. Bunson

May 27th, 2010
10:28 pm

joe

May 27th, 2010
10:29 pm

Cynthia when will people like you and Barr realize that it is not the goverment that is the threat to our privacy but the free enterprise corporations that provide Internet services like google,etc. As a census worker I can attest to the unlimited snooping capability that the free enterprise Internet companies allow one to do. To show you how stupid you are you are insulting some one who probably remembers your arrogance, remembers your address because of the unpleasant visit and can easily obtain your name and phone number with the grreat number of reverse lookup services that our wonderful business persons supply us with. And meanwhile you do not even remeber the moron’s name . right?

margarete richmond

May 27th, 2010
10:29 pm

The census worker came to my apartment complex several times to try to talk to people and he never asked the manager to open any door. I don’t know from where this is coming from. That didn’t happen here.

Hamish

May 27th, 2010
10:30 pm

To all of you complaining about Bob ‘reading into things’ or ‘blowing this out of proportion’; consider this… The Census started as a simple head count, how exactly did it evolve into the current brobdingnagian expanse we’ve encountered today? Simple, ask the Obamas about being salt Nazis or some other perfect example of ‘do-gooder-ism’ that is so rampant today…

John Stark

May 27th, 2010
10:30 pm

The only thing we filled out on the form was the number of people in our household. That’s the only information required by law, as far as I’m concerned. If someone from the Census tries to enter our home (which we own outright) without our permission to get more information, they better hope B.O’s medical program is already operational.

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
10:30 pm

Good post Jeff Johnson, but think about this…is there really a need to segregate NAMBLA, the CPUSA, ACLU, Black Panthers or CAIR, when they’re all part and parcel of Biraq’s Democrat Party?

Yeah, the Dems (who ran the Senate in the first term of Bush thanks to Jumpin Jim Jeffords, BTW) voted in the Patriot Act, and then again this year they extended it with further erosions.

Hey Misinformation-x dude, we get your point, we now know that you’re real proud to work for Soros and the SEIU.

Rowdy

May 27th, 2010
10:31 pm

“The only problem I have had is some people’s attitude because they lack the knowledge
just how the Census helps them,”

This is a crock too Jimmie. The only thing a census helps are politicians. It’s called “redistricting”. You know, all those areas with a gazillion illegals? They jack up a population…despite the fact they aren’t legal residents of THIS country.

Simon Jester

May 27th, 2010
10:31 pm

There is nothing legitimate or valid beyond the count. Period. If/when they show up to ask for more, they will be told the number and asked to leave. If they remain beyond that time they are trespassing and the Sheriff’s Dept will be called. You are welcome to answer anything you like.

Lisa

May 27th, 2010
10:32 pm

” I may ask for your DL and have you wait while I make a copy.”

B-man, while I make a point to carry my DL in my pocket with me during my Census travels, I would not let you make a copy of it. I would, however, let you see it. Also, anyone working the Census & coming to your door should have a Census ID around their neck & show it to you.

HAHAHAHA

May 27th, 2010
10:33 pm

America…. love it or leave it…. so I left!

Simon Jester

May 27th, 2010
10:33 pm

I really don’t care if they have Obama around their neck – it doesn’t change anything.

Chic911

May 27th, 2010
10:36 pm

Well, if Mr or Miss Census worker shows up at my house they’ll get the number of people who live there answer and nothing more. Anything above that, they had better have a warrant. And if they try to come in uninvited, then they’ll get a first hand introduction to what the 2nd Amendment is all about. You see, we have the Castle Doctrine thingy here in Ohio and….

KJ Gifford

May 27th, 2010
10:38 pm

Bob your an idiot. The Census workers cannot demand access to your property if you are not home. They can ask but they can be refused. They also cannot demand any information other than the number of persons who may be living at the property. I don’t know where you get off saying they can do these things but I suggest you get your facts straight.

The Ghost of Spalding Smails' Booger

May 27th, 2010
10:38 pm

“There is nothing legitimate or valid beyond the count. Period. If/when they show up to ask for more, they will be told the number and asked to leave. If they remain beyond that time they are trespassing and the Sheriff’s Dept will be called. You are welcome to answer anything you like.”

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. The Supreme Court has ruled on the issue over FIFTY years ago. The Census has NEVER been simply a headcount. NEVER.

The ignorance in this country is amazing.

Don H.

May 27th, 2010
10:42 pm

I’m a conservative, but I don’t like FALSE INFORMATION being used to spread fear. GET A BRAIN. THIS STORY IS COMPLETE BS. It’s sad when everyday people can refute your ‘facts’, Mr. Barr.

Joe Schmo

May 27th, 2010
10:42 pm

@ Ghost & Jeff Johnson

Liberal =/ Democrat. What is logically consistent and principled is not always – or often – politically viable. That said, I don’t like either party, for many reasons, foremost of which is that their primary (and sometimes sole) motivation is successful reelection. As for baselessly grouping me with NAMBLA and The Communist Party, I commend you on the attempted strawman. The only group of the bunch I support is the ACLU, mostly because they’re non-partisan and generally serve as a check the government’s overreach.

The Patriot Act is big government but I don’t hear you protesting that. I disagree with the Patriot Act on the same grounds that I disagree with arms restriction: the guarantee of security is not an acceptable reason to legislate against freedom.

seo-cook

May 27th, 2010
10:44 pm

А мой сайт http://seo-cook.ru так и не включили

misinformation * 9

May 27th, 2010
10:45 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Taquoshi

May 27th, 2010
10:46 pm

During the 2000 census, a friend and her family ended up being harassed by a census worker. They filled out the form, stating that there were three people living in the house and wrote down that their race was “human”. Apparently, that was upsetting to someone in the offices and a worker was sent out. My girlfriend’s husband answered the door and the worker got uppity with him. He’s a European and after her opening remarks, he switched into his native language. She asked him if he was here legally. He refused to answer. She threatened to call the police unless he answered her questions. My girlfriend’s husband closed the door in her face. She called the local police and reported that there was an illegal alien living there. The officer that was dispatched knew the family and advised the worker to let it go. She came back two more times, once when I happened to be there. My girlfriend politely requested the census worker leave the property. She got in her car and sat at the end of the driveway until the local police squad car that my girlfriend called pulled up. No one could figure out why this woman kept coming back to the house. I am sure that not all census workers are like this gal, but it got to be really creepy.

MyBulbBurnsBrighter

May 27th, 2010
10:49 pm

Why weren’t all of you right-wing, “socialism”/”Show me your birth-certificate”-screaming wing-nuts bitching & moaning about the Patriot Act under Bush?!?!?!…oh, I forgot, this is a MUCH bigger erosion of your rights…as if it were true. Please, for everybody’s sake, Get a clue….

Simon Jester

May 27th, 2010
10:49 pm

The Constitution specifies that an enumeration will be made to determinate the number of representatives allotted to each state. An enumeration – pretty straight forward. Not what race/ethnicity, not ages, not sexes, not any of these other things that have been asked over the years.

The Supreme Court has also ruled (incorrectly) on the Commerce Clause. They are far from infallible and fart from unbiased. They often exceed their own Constitutional limits.

Osamas Pajamas

May 27th, 2010
10:50 pm

I don’t always think about sex. Sometimes I think about overthrowing the government.

Simon Jester

May 27th, 2010
10:50 pm

PATRIOT ACT was an unconstitutional piece of garbage as well. Of course, it was supported (and renewed) by the current bunch of losers in Congress – The Democrats. Both Republicans & Democrats are big government parties.

The Ghost of Spalding Smails' Booger

May 27th, 2010
10:53 pm

Do you know what Necessary and Proper means? The Congress has authority to Tax and Spend to promote the general welfare of the people. Demographics are essential to accomplish this goal.

If that doesn’t do it for you, consider this. The Census has never been a simple enumeration. Never.

Don

May 27th, 2010
10:53 pm

I’d rather read the enabling legislation for that myself before getting all wound up. Can the author of this article or anybody cite anything that supports what’s in this article please?

Osamas Pajamas

May 27th, 2010
10:55 pm

Smash the United States government — and every level of American government — and replace it.

What this country needs is a truly LIBERAL president, congress, and government! And I forgive the reader for suspecting that this must be some kind of bad joke!

But the Democrats — and the champions of this agressive and intrusive census believe in “statism” — not “liberalism.”

They benefit from the imprecise American political terminology —- we say “the government” here in the USA —- rather than “the state.” And that’s a dangerous problem. Famous brands of statism in recent centuries have been Nazism, socialism, fascism, communism, and welfare statism —- this last is sort of a mix of fascism and socialism.

Liberalism, on the other hand, is a political philosophy of small, cheap government —- it is a constabulary —- and the job of a liberal government is to enforce human rights within its own jurisdiction. I speak of the inalienable and perfectly-natural and universally-valid human rights of life, liberty, private property, and the pursuit of personal happiness.

The first article of private property is “the self” and all other rights are derivatives of and flow from these cardinal rights. These rights —-The Rights of Man —- are the gift of nature or of nature’s god —- and they belong to all human beings, everywhere.

Show me a Democrat who subscribes to all of the above, without qualifications or weasel words. The words “liberal” and “liberalism” were hijacked by the Democrats and socialists and fascists long ago —- and it was the mistake of conservatives and libertarians to let them get away with it.

It is long past time that liberalism be reclaimed, defined, and explained by its rightful owners —- by the champions of freedom, i.e.: not by Democrats.

Well, how about “progressivism?” Whuzzat?! “Cancer” is “progressive,” too. Isn’t “progressivism” just another statist cancer? It chews you up, piece by piece, in the name of Da Peepul? Eat Da Rich? Moral cannibalism, anyone?

Friends of freedom! Friends of peace-through-strength! And friends of prosperity! Declare yourselves to be “liberals,” then —- and kick over the bloody coffee tables — and overthrow and trounce the Democrats in 2010 and 2012!

Oh. By the way. The US Constitution authorizes a “head” count and nothing more. Those who threaten the use of force and penalties to demand otherwise should “lose” their “heads.” Heads on a stick! Heads on a stick! Heads on a stick!

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
10:55 pm

One more thing. This Census can’t be laid at the feet of the current administration. Nearly all the planning, design, and strategy was done long before Obama even ran for President–some of it before he was a senator! It is true that he tried to wrest it from Commerce and hand it to White House for oversight, but by then it was too complex to move, and he dropped that plan. So, it pains me to say, if any president can or should be blamed for the current census operation, it would be George W. Bush (and, just for the record, I am probably the only conservative that didn’t abandon him for the prescription drug program and no Child Left Behind.) Honestly, though, this is too wonky and bureaucratic to be political. Every item and process at every level is cross-checked and double checked, and the only favoritism is toward veterans–and against criminals, federal loan evaders, and people who have been fired.

Robert

May 27th, 2010
10:58 pm

I am a Census worker and people freak out about fines, jail time, etc.

1. How many people were fined or imprisoned in the 2000 Census? ZERO

2. We got instructions not to go into people’s house even if they invite us in.

3. Also in training we are instructed not to push any issues that a person doesn’t want to answer.

DaveLCAC

May 27th, 2010
10:58 pm

Come into my house without permission and the federal law will be met with the Second amendment.

Sieg Heil, Nobama

May 27th, 2010
11:00 pm

Nothing like giving ‘License to Steel’ to all those parolees and Acorn workers.
Better watch out, I just might be hiding to get a good shot off.

Cilla Mitchell, Galveston Texas

May 27th, 2010
11:01 pm

Bob, I seriously doubt your credibility. By the way , that is a dang good way to get shot in Texas. Someone entering your premises without permission.

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B-Man

May 27th, 2010
11:03 pm

You would let me see it? How long could I “see it”? And how does a person know what an “official” Census ID looks like? Do I have to do some homework before I open my door (and my personal information)to a complete and total stranger? I understand you and the people working on the census have a job to do…I really do. However, you refusing to let me make a copy of your DL with your personal information on it as you quietly walk away with mine may not work for me. But! I do understand why you would not allow that to happen. It would probably be a bit uncomfortable hmm?

bar thom

May 27th, 2010
11:03 pm

Not true in my census training. Not true in my son’s. I don’t believe a word of it. The Census is, however truly a constitutional provision. You should complain about the IRS and the income tax and the health care bill. Now THAT”S illegal.

Simon Jester

May 27th, 2010
11:04 pm

Unfortunately there are two kinds of Liberals/Progressives – The Naive/Ignorant and the Liars.

They are apparently incapable of understanding the difference between “Promote” & “Provide” – The Constitution says Promote the General Welfare, NOT Provide it. If you are too ignorant, or perhaps, just illiterate, get someone to explain it to you.

DC is Broken. Has been since that Tyrant Lincoln did his best to destroy the Constitution. Obama is doing his best to replicate Lincoln’s Failures – so far he’s doing very well. Lincoln only has a few edges on him in locking up tens of thousand of people that didn’t agree with him as political prisoners, shutting down newspapers that spoke out against him and being responsible for the death of approximately 700,000 Americans. I think Obama will exceed both of those goals. He is a far greater threat to the lives of free people in this country than any external terrorist.

Patrick Martin

May 27th, 2010
11:06 pm

Easy solution. Shot First, Question Later!

shelton

May 27th, 2010
11:07 pm

E, Masters

I went to the link you listed and in the paragraph – here is the definition of “ingress”

in·gress
   /ˈɪngrɛs/ Show Spelled[in-gres] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the act of going in or entering.
2.
the right to enter.
3.
a means or place of entering; entryway.

So that still doesn’t mean they can enter with you not there, is that what you are trying to say?

Jeb

May 27th, 2010
11:07 pm

Any of these census a-holes try to enter my house, they WILL leave in a body bag. to hell with this marxist regime. Time for revolution and take back America.

Don

May 27th, 2010
11:08 pm

AJC is meeting it’s goal of going even lower than the National Enquirer, what’s next? “Wild dogs with red eyes hypnotized me, took my baby, and raised it.” That’s almost as bad as “Dingo got meh baybay.”

No wonder this is on a blog and not the actual news, bloggers can say anything without any supporting evidence, actual news folks have to provide citations and stuff to support their claims.

Jeanett

May 27th, 2010
11:08 pm

You have ERRONIOUS info ~ I worked as a census worker and they STRESSED to NOT ENTER ANY HOMES. We are also BOUND by an OATHE SWORN to hold ALL PERSONAL INFO in STRICT CONFIDENTIALITY ~ TITLE 13 ~ residence are required to answer the 10 questions but no more.
And NO references to VIOLENCE was EVER mentioned. QUIT DEMONIZING EVERYONE WHO WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT. You may be one of them at some time.

seanmom

May 27th, 2010
11:11 pm

Just to be clear: the “favoritism” I cited above is in terms of hiring. Census doesn’t ask or care about those issues for household respondents. As for the person who told the story about the 2000 census worker reporting an illegal, that can’t happen in 2010. It does not matter if you have a bag of pot and a gram of coke in the front hallway and a hooker on the porch, the census worker can NOT tell anyone about what is going on in your house. If they do, they lose their job (and hope of any future federal job) and risk fines and imprisonment. And they are NOT allowed to ask whether anyone is legal or illegal.

MrObvious

May 27th, 2010
11:12 pm

If you get asked a census question you don’t want to answer – just tell em the answer escapes you at the moment. The only question you are required to answer is how many people live there. Names and phone numbers are not required. Even race is not required. The less extraneous information given to the interviewers the less likely interviewees are to be $pamed by the DNC, unions, community organizers, and related groups later. Expect the government to find a way to exempt specific groups from honoring the “Do Not Call” list sometime before the 2012 elections, even if they have to pass new laws to do it.

Mike

May 27th, 2010
11:14 pm

I am a census worker, part time and temporary (just wanted some extra pocket change), and we are specifically trained that we cannot even touch screen doors. We are also trained that if we are told to leave the premises to do so immediately. Not sure where this craziness is coming from but it isn’t the reality that is being taught in our local census office at any rate.

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
11:16 pm

Census workers are leftist tools of Soros, Rahm and the husband of the big, ole, hairy, butt~ugly, Chewbacca “thang” in the White House.

Ain’t no such thing as a conservative who would take a statist job like taking info for the gubmint. All you leftist wieners need to man-up to your inner weakness…and move to Canada.

The Ghost of Spalding Smails' Booger

May 27th, 2010
11:16 pm

First of all, I’m a conservative. Second, I typed that in about two seconds. I understand the Constitution. I’ve probably spent close to a thousand hours studying the Contitution, it’s history and the Supreme Court cases interpreting it.

So please, spare me your tin foil lecture about what it really says.

mike

May 27th, 2010
11:19 pm

Has this $500 fine ever been ordered? Ever paid? I’ve never heard of this.

Lacson

May 27th, 2010
11:20 pm

Article is totally false. Thanks for lying bob. The sad news is a census worker can threaten to fine all ignorant landlords just the same way bob Barr made us believe that census workers can enter our homes.

Ann

May 27th, 2010
11:20 pm

This is absolutely NOT what my crew does! Yes, we try to get the information, and will ask a neighbor if we cannot locate an occupant, but enter anyone’s private property? Never! Get your facts straight!!!

Ramon

May 27th, 2010
11:21 pm

If a jack-booted thug, ACORN welfare case, NAMBLA/Democratic Party (pardon the redundancy) activist, Obama-is-messiah sycophant ends up on my porch expecting to get any information out of me, and insists upon trespassing on my property and harrassing me in pursuit of information that I don’t care to divulge, then he’d better pray to his pagan idols that he’s a better marksman than I.

Panagiota Kontos

May 27th, 2010
11:22 pm

I is from the gubmint, and I’s hear to put gas in yo car and pay yo mogage. You be likin this hope and change, or we’s gonna give you a beat down like them Panther brutthas did in Philly.

Welcome to the new world order, first Clinton sold out our manufacturing base, then Bush, Teddy Kennedy and the Democrat Senate launched the Muzzie wars, and now Biraq (ie Chewbacca’s Kenyan mate) is giving us census jobs to pull that 20% unemployment down, before he bails out all his buddies on Wall St. again.

Melanie

May 27th, 2010
11:22 pm

Slightly off topic, but having 1) filled in the bloody mail census form because I did not want people at my house I still ended up with a very persistent census worker at my (rented ) home a few weeks ago who barged in as soon as I answered the door much to my annoyance but I answered his questions to get him out I then got another census worker here tonight (9pm.I have a 4 yr old which it woke up, gee thanks) to check the answers that the previous worker took. What a bloody waste of money. Yes I paid a kings ransom for my US citizenship but I’m actually very happy to be giving up and going home to a flawed, but slightly saner country.

Lucky Star

May 27th, 2010
11:24 pm

This is enough provocation to sit in the hall closet with a loaded 12 gauge to defend against the Gestapho. It would take a couple intruder slayings to stop all this crap/

balddude4

May 27th, 2010
11:25 pm

But yet ICE can’t enter a residence to arrest a known illegal alien, even with an Administrative Warrant! I just LOVE this administration!!!

misinformation #

May 27th, 2010
11:26 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Don

May 27th, 2010
11:27 pm

I think that everyone should settle down here and not get wound up. Remember the source, this is a blog, written by a blogger who as usual for bloggers didn’t cite a single thing. Outlandish claims are just that, meant to wind people up.

KennyP

May 27th, 2010
11:27 pm

Come into my house…I dare you (said the spider to the fly)

misinformation # 1

May 27th, 2010
11:29 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

misinformation # 2

May 27th, 2010
11:32 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Stanley Rand

May 27th, 2010
11:34 pm

“The only group of the bunch I support is the ACLU, mostly because they’re non-partisan and generally serve as a check the government’s overreach.”

Non-partisan? The anti-American Commie Lovers Union, non-partisan? The Association of Criminal Liars Union, non-partisan? You are smoking some seriously bad weed!

ericdb

May 27th, 2010
11:35 pm

Here in Montana, the census workers drive around back roads looking for individuals that the government did not, or may not, know about. You know, so they can get their “fair share” of tax money.

True Information #1

May 27th, 2010
11:38 pm

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Don

May 27th, 2010
11:38 pm

Bad try Misinformation, I get a 404 on your Cornell URL. Cite the Federal Register please.

True Information #2

May 27th, 2010
11:40 pm

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Stanley Rand

May 27th, 2010
11:41 pm

“misinformation” poster…. Ok, you are a census worker, probably an SEIU member, and have a history of psychological disturbances. Calm down. Go to the meds cabinet and get the pills out your doc prescribed. Take them, along with a few deep breathes. Try to get some sleep. You have a long day ahead of you tomorrow knocking on doors facing the fearful prospect of meeting your fellow citizens, so get some sleep.

Sdwat52

May 27th, 2010
11:42 pm

“Yeah, sure. Any census worker can walk into your home, shoot your dog, arrest you, and ship you off to one of those FEMA labor camps. This is exactly the sort of misinformation that makes people with legitimate concerns about federal overreach look like crazy John Birchers. I’m sure the fed was just itching to bestow draconian authority on college kids looking for part time work. Bob, you’re an idiot.”

Posted by:
Brian

May 27th, 2010
3:30 pm
——————————

God, I just can’t add to that. Lots of comments here were hilarious, but damn Brian – you swept the bases. Yes, I know – I’m now unoriginal…

richard

May 27th, 2010
11:42 pm

This is nuts and can’t be right. Law enforcement needs a warrant signed by a judge to enter.

Evan

May 27th, 2010
11:43 pm

There is so much going on in terms of our total lack of freedom and false veils of rights that it is scary. The purpose of the census is to get personal information from citizens in what appears to be a harmless and non threatening way. In reality the information is entered into a database and matched up with known complying taxpayers to identify those not paying taxes. The census smokes out non tax payers

phx

May 27th, 2010
11:43 pm

There’s something not American about people who distort the truth for the political ends. People like Bob Barr.

Seth's Mummy

May 27th, 2010
11:46 pm

Why so much hate from the right? Barak is just trying to make things fair, for all Americans, even those of us left in the gutter by the excess of the Bushie years.

We need to level the playing field, if that means more taxes, it is our patriotic duty to pay more. If it means that more representation goes to Blue states, than so be it. The worst thing the Palin, teabagger folks are doing is dissenting from the democratic process. Barak was elected by one of the biggest majorities to heal our wounds.

Dissent is the enemy of democracy!

JohnAdams'Cousin

May 27th, 2010
11:46 pm

Yes, John Adams, John Quincy Adams and Samuel Adams are my relatives, and I am sure they would say to all those whining about the census…
America! Love it or LEAVE IT!!!
If you can’t handle your doing civic duty without whining like a little B*TCH, THEN GET THE F*#& OUT!!! NOW!!!

Artist

May 27th, 2010
11:47 pm

In my part of the country they found a registered sex offender working for the Census. He has access to my daughters bedroom?? That’s sick??

Stanley Rand

May 27th, 2010
11:52 pm

“There’s something not American about people who distort the truth for the political ends.”

But John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Al Gore, John Edwards and so many others and the rest of the democrats are models of virtue? You are a useful idiot comrade.

JIm in PA

May 27th, 2010
11:55 pm

guess it’s time to screen your calls and not answer the door when you don’t know who is knocking.

Stanley Rand

May 27th, 2010
11:55 pm

“Dissent is the enemy of democracy”

What a moron! Then all you Bush haters ought to be rounded up and put in FEMA camps. Hell, you have a short memory.

Chucky

May 27th, 2010
11:59 pm

E Masters wrote:…This is a pretty liberal reading of the code! The relevant language is at Title 13, Chapter 7, Subchapter II, § 223 of the US Code. The section prevents the owner or manger of “any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building” from refusing to provide a list of the buildings occupants or providing access to “such premises”.

Then he goes on to explain what “providing access to such premises” MEANS. Means to YOU, E Masters. But YOU don’t have the final say about what the Code means. I can only trust a Gov’t Census as much as I trust the Leader of the Gov’t. In this case, Pres Obama. While he is my pres, I DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING about him, sooo, I don’t TRUST “his” Census! That said, I’m an American and my wife and I obeyed the law and filled in the census letter. BUT, when someone CAME BACK to my house, I calmly opened the dorr and told him “none is home” and shut the door.
This happened TWICE already.

Seth's Mummy

May 27th, 2010
11:59 pm

Ah, John Edwards, why mention him? Let the poor man live in peace. His wife is very ill with cancer, and he is busy looking after the kids now. On limited means I might add.

Kerry and Edwards would have been the best duo to ever run our nation. We would have no more wars, plenty of jobs, Christopher Reeve would still be alive and Michael J. Fox would stop shaking from his palsy. A woman’s right to choose would be guaranteed.

Rethuglicans only care about putting people in the grave due to their health.

misinformation # 3

May 28th, 2010
12:00 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension people.. not so good these days…

http://www.law.cor

Kathryn M

May 28th, 2010
12:00 am

This article is so biased. All of the allegations are completely untrue. My parent works for the US Census Bureau as a temporary employee. First of all, census workers do not enter empty apartments. In fact, they are discouraged from entering anyone’s abode, period. They have to get permission from the management just to enter an apartment building, and management is not permitted to open anyone’s door to them. Entering the empty apartment would be trespassing, and the census worker would be punished accordingly.

Secondly, a census worker is NOT permitted to access private information. That’s an invasion of privacy. Obtaining a cellphone number is a violation of privacy. The census worker is allowed to ask a proxy regarding the information that is asked on the census sheet, which is only 10 questions. Census workers are only allowed to obtain published numbers, since anyone may obtain a published number.

The US Census Bureau is not allowed to share any of its information with any other Government agency. That’s a violation of privacy. If a census worker comes across an illegal immigrant and/or terrorist, they’re not allowed to report them. Another violation of privacy.

Census workers are not allowed to show anyone the forms in which people fill out. My parent isn’t even allowed to show their own family. That’s called PII – Personal Identifiable Information. Only a member of the US Census Bureau who has been sworn in is allowed to see it.

Either these alleged census workers are violating their work code, or are not real US census workers. There have been some frauds going from door to door. As I said, the real census sheet has only 10 questions, obtaining how long one resided at their current household, head count, names, relationship, sex, age and date, ethnicity (due to programs for different ethnic groups), where they usually reside, and do they own or rent. One is also not obligated to answer all questions, e.g. phone number.

Let’s not all assume that just because it’s a government-run agency it’s out to get us and exploit us with any and all information it can obtain.

True Information #3

May 28th, 2010
12:02 am

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

misinformation # 4

May 28th, 2010
12:02 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

True Information #4

May 28th, 2010
12:03 am

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Mark

May 28th, 2010
12:05 am

Lucky for me, my state defines self defense in the home as uninvited entry. They better hope I am not asleep when they do it. Could be a pretty nasty accident and CNN worthy news event.

Stanley Rand

May 28th, 2010
12:05 am

Regarding John Adams… If you know your history you will know that John, once he was in power, had a tyrannical side in trying to shut down those who disagreed with him. Statists have a clear history of trying to silence the opposition. Telling people to get out of the country would be consistent with the weaslie proclivities of your supposed cousin. We are not going anywhere so whining libs better get used to having produce results or getting booted from office. Same thing for the Repubs. By the way, on another topic, was that really the moment when the waters stopped rising?

Census Supervisor

May 28th, 2010
12:05 am

I am a Supervisor for a Southern California district. This article is absolutely untrue. Title 13 does provide that you, or landlords, or property managers may not withhold any information from anyone employed by the Census Bureau, but does NOT give us access to your home without you being present. The information that is required would be names, ages, dates of birth, and race, if known. Any information that would be on your rental agreement. Keeping in mind we do not ask for sensitive information such as Social Security numbers, or any financial information such as income. We do ask whether you rent or own your home, or live there without paying rent. We can not go through your mail, or obtain any information in any other way, other than asking you, or a knowledgeable proxy about this information. Proxy information is deemed less reliable and is only used as a last resort. Phone numbers are required, yes. For verification of information received by the proxy. Either the number to the people at the address in question, or the phone number of the proxy to determine accuracy of what is recorded, and seek any additional information that may have been forgotten. This article is designed to inflame the public, nothing more, the question I have is “Why?” Information on Title 13 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode13/usc_sup_01_13.html

Don

May 28th, 2010
12:06 am

Artist, don’t be choad, as a parent, it’s your resonsibility to take care of your children.

I can see the next post from you, “OGM HE HAS LEGAL RIGHTS TO RAPE MY DAUGHTER.” No, it doesn’t work that way you fat choad!

Just remember that Choad is the best insult ever!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=123105781048388&ref=ts

True Information #5

May 28th, 2010
12:07 am

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the following binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Ghostsouls

May 28th, 2010
12:07 am

Ok, question………..If NO ONE IS HOME…who the hell are they gonna count???? People in the pictures, go thru your private photo albums, go thru your important papers, looking for birth certificates and such….? Why don’t they just ask the landlord how many is on the lease? And if they are illegal aliens they probably don’t have social security cards, birth certificates etc…. it’s not a question that the majority of census workers probably won’t enter a house where no one is home, but I am sure people have seen recent reports of people with criminal records and one had sexual assault records, who says they can’t get access thru the landlord and wait for a single lady to get home and pounce out of the closet? And if they do it to an illegal alien, it probably won’t get reported. You know there are always some who ABUSE their authority, and stand behind the rule of law to cover their a$$.

misinformation # 5

May 28th, 2010
12:08 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

HB

May 28th, 2010
12:08 am

This is outrageous and should never happen; the government continues to take our rights away and most Americans are clueless about what is going on in this country. @jconservative: You obviously did not receive the long form American Community Survey. I did receive this long form, and it is very intrusive. The survey asks a variety of questions involving everything from what time you go to work in the morning to questions about your health.

True Information #6

May 28th, 2010
12:11 am

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the following binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

mogar

May 28th, 2010
12:13 am

I would suggest that would be a very unwise move on their part because if I find them there I’m not going to ask questions. I’m just going to start taking their ass apart.

Stanley Rand

May 28th, 2010
12:14 am

“We would have no more wars, plenty of jobs, Christopher Reeve would still be alive and Michael J. Fox would stop shaking from his palsy.”

I raise Edwards because you fail to see that the dim party is filed with sycophants like Kerry and Edwards who distort the truth for political gain. It was your definition, just applied to your heroes.

Obama was going to just put gas in everyones fuel tanks, but Kerry and Edwards would have prevented war, resurrected Christopher selfish Reeves and healed Michael Fox! Wow, we got shafted then. But seriously, you progressives hate history, you never learn, no matter how many millions die at the hands of your statism.

SparkS

May 28th, 2010
12:15 am

Another thing you might not know is the workers also open street side mailboxes. In 2000 I personally saw one riffling through my mail. This year they placed one of their forms in my mail box. Both actions are violations of Federal law! But they do what they please and the law be damned.
The ONLY ones that can legally open a mailbox are the owner and the USPS letter carrier. That is a fact.

I wrote the Census Director asking how I can charge the worker. Naturally he didn’t have the common decency to reply. Yet more arrogance by those that theoretically work for us all.

George Orwell was early.

UGa2Day

May 28th, 2010
12:16 am

This information is amazing, if true. With the powermad socialists now in charge, I’m sure it is. Look at all of the instances of census takers being convicted felons and sexual perverts.

Hell, if they can fix a sandwich and drink my Cokes, they’ll probably use my bathroom, or ransack my teenage daughter’s room.

Thanks idiots for electing these people.

Bob

May 28th, 2010
12:16 am

You are full of crap. You are apparently looking for visibility.

Don

May 28th, 2010
12:18 am

Clearly if misinformation and trueinformation spam enough they can try to convince people of their claims.

I suspect that it’s one little blogger choad living in it’s mother’s basement.

DourCynic

May 28th, 2010
12:19 am

I work for the census currently & I am a constitutional conservative believe it or not. I lost most of my private sector work within the first 6 months of Obama’s presidency as he specifically targeted the private sector & opportunity’s in it allowing someone like myself to rise to an income of 100,000 to 200,000 thousand eventually. He’s successfully destroying the true middle class his final goal seemingly being two classes, the proletariat & the elite in power. All of this aside the 1st census was not long after the Constitution was written. I didn’t object to $15 dollars an hour plus I wanted to get something back from the same government that I feel has taken so much from me. I also thought working there would show me how things really work as opposed to just gossip or one sided here say.

I routinely tell angry people to give me their names, population & ages & nothing else if they refuse. I explain that giving this “constitutional information” only & neglecting to give any more on Constitutional grounds is a powerful statement. It tells the government that your reasonable but you know your Constitutional rights & can stand by them. It also says that you don’t support the types of legislation (almost exclusively democrat) that use statistical race based census questions to implement programs that require lots of funding. Of course many people don’t mind giving me more information then I need but that isn’t the point. The point is that you should be more worried & upset about Obama’s Czar’s or Janet Napolitano’s shady financial deals with company’s that funded her career at the expense of all Arizonan’s. Or how about Sotomayor or Kagan both socialists, both holding entirely stated unconstitutional opinions on our Supreme Court for life? How about the fairness doctrine which would in effect end free speech? These are the things we should be talking about.

I can tell you factually that I’ve been told to not push people at all. I have been told that I can’t make more then a specified amount of personal contacts. I have been told to avoid entering a persons home if possible unless I feel safe & they invite me in. Many have done the interview at the front door many have invited me in. If I reveal any specific information about people I question I face 5 years in prison & or up to a $500,000 fine. The point is that when it comes down to it, like all branches of government the Census Bureau is unorganized & somewhat inefficient because of people at the top. This is no different then a hundred other branches of government that effect our lives much more making them the real issue.

The most insane thing I have encountered however, is mainly liberal democrats who volunteer the info as well as their intense anger towards the government. I have always bit my tongue because I was on the clock but really these people breeding is a serious danger to society. They vote for politicians that implement race based legislation. The questions in the census that offend these people so much are there to help implement race based legislation which is always Democrat! Ignorance is the greatest danger to this Republic, not me, not the Census Bureau. At least not yet anyway, if I was told to do something unethical I would be flipping out by now. I can assure I haven’t been asked to do anything unethical by this particular branch of government.

Ringmaster76120

May 28th, 2010
12:20 am

I hope the census worker that tries to enter my home can explain his “rights” to 110 pounds of angry German Shepard that thinks he owns this house.

Komrade Citizen

May 28th, 2010
12:20 am

All hail Comrade Messiah Obama

Mike K.

May 28th, 2010
12:21 am

Sounds like good exercise of the 4th Amendment for the Supreme Court to me

Don

May 28th, 2010
12:21 am

SparkS, if it’s so important to you, how come you didn’t photograph it? You’re like those UFO freak jobs, outlandish claims and with cameras all over the place, you never seem to grab a photo or have any evidence.

Bob

May 28th, 2010
12:22 am

I am sorry I said that. I investigated the issue and see I was wrong.

UGa2Day

May 28th, 2010
12:23 am

I heard that they’re going through all the abortion doctors records and adding all the aborted foetuses to the rolls, something similar to the slave days. Each foetus is equal to 3/5 of a Democrat vote – they assume that they’re all leftists since the aborting mothers are invariably from the ‘hood or from Vassar or Barnard.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
12:23 am

“Non-partisan? The anti-American Commie Lovers Union, non-partisan? The Association of Criminal Liars Union, non-partisan? You are smoking some seriously bad weed!”

You’re totally right, they’re suing the Obama Administration just to keep up appearances. Go back to living in your doom-room fear-bunker for the next 3 years, if the Muzlums don’t get you FEMA will.

Free Man On The Land

May 28th, 2010
12:24 am

This is why it is important for you to take back your sovereignty. I’m not going to sit here and say it is an easy process, but I will tell you that you need to start by filling your UCC-1 form. I have no problem being counted however I do have a problem being forced to do anything.

I am ashamed to say that I am an American right now.

True Information #7

May 28th, 2010
12:26 am

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the following binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Don

May 28th, 2010
12:28 am

SparkS, to tell the truth, I am a 9-11 truther, a birth certificator, and a fan of Alex Jones. I am also a liberal democrat.

Juan

May 28th, 2010
12:30 am

And the order comes from……….taratatannnnn…..The loser in the white house.

Don Calamari

May 28th, 2010
12:30 am

Epic fail for using my name as Don, I’ll change it now.
This is something that this website needs, some kind of authentication.

You drooling choad ass retard!
“SparkS, to tell the truth, I am a 9-11 truther, a birth certificator, and a fan of Alex Jones. I am also a liberal democrat.” Those are not my words.

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Stanley Rand

May 28th, 2010
12:31 am

Joe Schmooze you are an anti-American dolt, probably an ACLU lawyer, or toilet bowl cleaner at their offices. Qualifications are about the same. Get your shotgun and crawl back in your closet.

Don Calamari

May 28th, 2010
12:33 am

I am an inveterate liar with multiple personality disorder. Please believe anything I say. Those are not my words.

Curtis

May 28th, 2010
12:33 am

This sounds very foolish and an excellent way to get shot!

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
12:34 am

“This information is amazing, if true. With the powermad socialists now in charge, I’m sure it is. Look at all of the instances of census takers being convicted felons and sexual perverts.”

Do your own research. You’ll find it’s not true. That aside, I doubt there are many documented sexual predators and felons being hired by the census. I recently finished some work with a census and we worked with a girl who was dropped during training because she didn’t pass the FBI background check, you know, the one that every employee of the census must go through (complete with fingerprints, oh boy!). Her crime? Getting caught with a joint 8 years back when she was a minor. I doubt your cable guy’s info passes through the FBI just before he comes out to service your TeeVee masheen.

ME

May 28th, 2010
12:35 am

I say let the wars start… let’s do it. Everyone quit talking and let’s get violent. I personally wish to try some human flesh…that is some change I could get in to! Obama sucks, The man ain’t keeping nobody down, and liberals can choke on a whale phallus…WHO’s NEXT?

Acerdude

May 28th, 2010
12:37 am

I personally gave only my head count of my house and any other questions on the forms were un-Constitutional and I wrote that on the forms too.

If I were a renter and gave the head count but the census worker wanted in against my will, I would stand on the Constitution and demand that the census worker get a warrant to enter.

Rorschach

May 28th, 2010
12:38 am

This is offensive.

Roger

May 28th, 2010
12:40 am

Joe, the ACLU is suing because they are disappointed in how slow Obama is in implementing the leftist agenda. Obama thought he could walk in as dictator, and, he has found patriots slowing his agenda down. Duh. Your bulb burns ever so dim.

Jose Boogles

May 28th, 2010
12:42 am

The Code says, the landlord is required “to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof.” That doesn’t specify entering apartments but neither does it prevent such entry. It is conceivable that some over-zealous census worker could push to enter private apartments. The language should have been written to limit such things from happening.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
12:43 am

“Joe Schmooze you are an anti-American dolt, probably an ACLU lawyer, or toilet bowl cleaner at their offices. Qualifications are about the same. Get your shotgun and crawl back in your closet.”

I just don’t see the world like a 4 year old. The playground worldview of good guys and bullies gets you into decades-long 3 trillion dollar mistakes.

Master Lee Mochow

May 28th, 2010
12:43 am

It is time for us to unity, The NWO is growing strong everday,
P.U. is here to help,
Unity for all Humanity
find out more @ http://www.youtube.com/user/MasterLeeMochow
Master Lee Mochow

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
12:44 am

Well, I googled census workers and sex predators and see what you are saying There may be a serious problem after all. Perhaps it’s the typical big government confusion?

Grandpa Gus

May 28th, 2010
12:44 am

Only further proof that any pinhead can write a news column, and every thinking individual should check information for themselves through other sources, before we take what is written as absolute truth.

Master Lee Mochow

May 28th, 2010
12:44 am

http://www.youtube.com/user/MasterLeeMochow
If you don’t act now the future will be losed.
P.U.
unity for all humanity

Stanley Rand

May 28th, 2010
12:48 am

And the naive view ends up with millions of dead. You people hate history and deny human nature. You implement policies that work against human nature. It can only end in epic failure of the kind history attests to. You are the one with the four year olds view. Go back and smoke your dope and dream of the utopia you will never usher in. Only poverty, death and destruction.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
12:55 am

“Joe, the ACLU is suing because they are disappointed in how slow Obama is in implementing the leftist agenda. Obama thought he could walk in as dictator, and, he has found patriots slowing his agenda down. Duh. Your bulb burns ever so dim.”

Partisan – a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person; especially : one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance.

You can quibble about semantics all you want but if we hold partisan every organization that adheres to a “cause” we’ll be listing the D.C. phonebook. The ACLU sues when their lawyers determine there is a legal cause, regardless of party affiliation. Their primary goal is to “defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee,” and their lawsuits generally stem from government overreaching legal bounds. Isn’t that what you repubs are always complaining about? Government overreach? Argue all you want, I’ve put on my flame retardant suit.

Hilton Swanger

May 28th, 2010
12:55 am

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of legal and illegal residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute (quoted many times earlier).

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

So folks, it is 100% US Code that these little left-wing, loser prats have the authority to ransack your residence and to top it off, Obama’s OMB allows them to eat and drink your property!

Who needs the stinking constitution when we are governed by the boys and girls of Hahvuhd Law. And the jack-booted thugs of the SEIU, ACORN, Teamsters and Obama’s Civil Defense Force (the Brownshirts) all directed by Soros and the other bank CEOs who yank Hussein, Geithner and Pelosi’s chains.

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Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:02 am

“Well, I googled census workers and sex predators and see what you are saying There may be a serious problem after all. Perhaps it’s the typical big government confusion?”

I didn’t write this.

But I did end up finding one story on Faux News about a sex predator that was cleared to work by the FBI after using an alias. If the Census contracts out to get background checks from the FBI, they bear some culpability, but not a lot more due diligence can be expected of an organization that’s giving the fingerprints, names, and SSN of their employees to the premier law enforcement body of our country.

Hilton Swanger

May 28th, 2010
1:02 am

I’d love to see some leftists census tool enter this guy’s place and eat a sandwich:

http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_15174443?source=most_emailed&nclick_check=1

Yikes, but the main point of the story is a few more Lefty Cali voters aren’t there to vote for the two Jewish ladies, Boxer and Fienstine.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:12 am

I AM THE REAL JOE, and I really did write the piece about finding out that the census taker rolls are absolutely overrun with convicted felons and sexual perverts. Some rural areas in Northern California, New England and the Upper Midwest have 25-33% of workers as on parole or under court-ordered supervision.

PS “impostor”, the FBI ceased being the premier law enforcement agency under Clinton when all they did was investigate Dole and Bush. And then dropping the ball on all the Obama terrorists…yikes.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa Co., AZ likely runs the premier LE organization.

bigdogdaddyd

May 28th, 2010
1:14 am

what are they gonna do , go thru my mail, turn on my computer, count the pairs of socks in my drawer. Look at my pictures on the wall, or recover from my dog biting their ass. what? c’mon they can only gain entry at the invitation and unfortunately to the demise of some of our citizens. Of course the goverment (left out the n because that’s the normal in the word and our government is anything but), they want a tally, some resist that tally and want to be off the radar. Hey, that’s they’re deal, there’s always the rebels, that’s what makes our country great. God bless em. Hell no I don’t exist. but , in the end they the gov’t goes brrrrrr….r.r..r.r.r… on their super duper handy dandy computers and go, oh !! johnny smith/brown/valenzuela/nguyen/chi’ng wei / bharyindinnaggaddaadavida / lives their, it says so on their tax return. or drivers license, oh look there is more of them in the d a t a base. But, alas there are those mountainering, souls, those trailer dudes and dudettes, that are known only by their local bowling alley names, that cash their checks at the liquor store and never look up, cause their always looking down. I definitely wouldn’t be so paranoid if everybody wasn’t out to get me…….

Freedom is good

May 28th, 2010
1:16 am

Their threats are all bark and no bite. NOBODY has ever been fined. simply ignore them when they come knocking and they will go away for good.

“According to some accounts, those recipients who chose not to return the form and did not respond to phone calls or private visits appeared to be hassled the least. Alternatively, those who returned the survey partially completed and communicated with the Census Bureau agents generally received more contacts and pressure. ”
- http://www.wisegeek.com/do-i-have-to-respond-to-the-acs.htm

The IRS and SS Administration has all the information the US Census Bureau needs. Cant government agencies share information? These surveys are just another way to waste tax payer dollars to maintain useless positions in big government.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
1:16 am

I actually work for the Census. We aren’t supposed to enter people’s houses at all, regardless of them inviting us in.

Hollingsworth LaPetitMort

May 28th, 2010
1:19 am

I live in Maine, they have “visited” no less than 12 times, my security cameras have recorded it. They have called 4 times, although my number is listed in another name. They have questioned my Neighbors about me. Taken GPS coords twice that I can see on tape. Sure, they just need to count the toilets. I work night shift …can’t catch me LMAO Taxed Enough Already !!

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:20 am

“Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa Co., AZ likely runs the premier LE organization.”

Forget that he’s currently under investigation for constitutional violations or that he is so hard up for cash he’s agreed to host his own version of “Cops” to make a little money on the side. Apparently being a full time racist doesn’t pay the bills.

Mick Russom

May 28th, 2010
1:20 am

Census workers. If you end up dead it will be in self defense. I will kill anyone who enters my house without due process. I have to assume you are a thief, murderer or rapist or kidnapper.

So Census workers, you feeling lucky? Do yah? Punk!?

jodi lynn

May 28th, 2010
1:21 am

Glad to know I live in Cambodia, where there is TRUE FREEDOM! And virtually no crime, aside from petty thefts. Imagine that. No police pulling you over, no system of credit, no bills, no mail.. everything is pre-pay, and everyone smiles. I love America but not what it has become! I’ll be here in paradise until things change (if they ever do). You can live like a king for $400 per month (rent, power, food, wifi, cell phone etc)…

jesse

May 28th, 2010
1:23 am

If they did that to me, I would shoot first and ask questions later. Anyone who comes into my place unannounced will get a bullet.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:24 am

“The IRS and SS Administration has all the information the US Census Bureau needs. Cant government agencies share information? These surveys are just another way to waste tax payer dollars to maintain useless positions in big government.”

The Census Bureau is explicitly prohibited from sharing information with other government bodies. They cannot contact Law Enforcement, Immigration, or the IRS under any circumstance except to prevent immanent and serious harm to themselves or others. They do this because they want cooperation and don’t want people to be worried that this information will be used against them in any sort of way.

R. Lynn

May 28th, 2010
1:24 am

What a crock. I’m a census worker, and I was not trained to do this, nor would I ever consider doing such a thing. And please, don’t think of me as a ‘low life’ because I’m a census worker. I’m doing it because I thought it would be fun, and frankly, I do need the money. I’ve got a four year degree, have a pilots license, and work as a professional firefighter/paramedic. However, my pay has been cut, my overtime has been taken away, and the cost of my medical benefits gone up. My wife was laid off, and after I lost my house in the wildfires of 2007, I was forced to buy a home at a price I didn’t want and an still upside down on. So yeah, I need the money.

I’ve heard every excuse in the book on why the census shouldn’t be done. Some of the reasons I agree with. So, if you don’t want to participate, fine. Just tell me how many live in the house, and I’ll be on my way. That’s all I think the government needs to know anyway. But force my way into somebodies home or property? Never. My coworkers, they feel similarly. Nobody I know or work with would consider doing this, nor have we ever been instructed to do this by the census people that trained us. So I think that this whole story is a crock.

95% of the people I’ve interviewed for the census have been great, treated me very nicely, and answered all the questions the government wants. Only a few have treated me otherwise, and I’m cool with it. I simply thank them for their time, and leave.

R. Lynn – San Diego, CA

WayneLLewis

May 28th, 2010
1:26 am

I guess that is why “mantraps” are illegal.

misinformation # 7

May 28th, 2010
1:29 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Camilla

May 28th, 2010
1:33 am

This is odd because when the census worker came to my house, I asked her to come in, seeing as how I didn’t care to answer the questions standing on my porch. She said she was not allowed to come in so we had a lovely chatty time on the porch while she apologized for the questions she had to ask and told me which ones I could ignore.

Angus MacPherson

May 28th, 2010
1:33 am

Assuming this article is correct, I’d rather be fined than let somebody else into my apartment. Over the past year both my landlord and the city have started yearly “inspections” that never existed previously…ever. I’m feeling more and more like a prisoner in a cage.

It’s becoming obvious (to me) that renting is no different than being a slave. You have no privacy, the landlord can do yearly “inspections” ..the city does its “inspections” and now we find that if you are a renter even low-life census workers can have access to your private life. OMG. I pay good money, on time, to be left alone and live my life. But if you are a renter you are nothing but a prisoner in a cage to be examined whenever they want. My advice… don’t rent!! Renting is obviously for suckers and people down-on-their-luck. I’m shocked that people do it cradle-to-grave and feel really sorry for them. And oddly, this sort of intrusion into renters lives just seems to be intensifying as we lose more and more of our freedoms and liberties in the US, like the entire system on down the line is trying to train us to feel like prisoners were our “cells” can be inspected whenever they wish.

First they poison the air, food and water. Now they want to invade our private lives more and more on all levels of government. See a pattern here people? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TYRANNY!

george

May 28th, 2010
1:35 am

it does not really matter what the law actually says..what matters is how an individual interprets it and may use it to coerce the manager to give access..the manager will not know if the person is lying or not and will not challenge them because of the threat of being at risk if he does so..so in effect mr barr is correct..

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:37 am

“Assuming this article is correct, I’d rather be fined than let somebody else into my apartment.”

Don’t worry, it’s not correct.

Beth

May 28th, 2010
1:40 am

Anything beyond asking the number of people in my home is intrusive and has NO BEARING on the census. If this is about head counts, then why are they asking about age, race, and relationships? And let’s not EVEN get started on the long form which asks TOTALLY intrusive questions!

Tell ya what — I’ll provide full disclosure when Obeyme does and produces a viable birth certificate, answers to why his Social Security card was issued out of Connecticut, and proof that he went to Columbia.

bryan holliday

May 28th, 2010
1:49 am

What intrusive questions??? They just want to know how many people are living at each home! This is needed information for distribution of funds. Get over this Civil Liberties crap. I believe in personal freedoms and Rights but don’t be naive to think that a Government census in infringing upon our rights to privacy. Geesh.

bryan holliday

May 28th, 2010
1:50 am

Beth you’re nuts…he has provided his birth certificate and it was proven to be a certified document. Get over that birther nonsense.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:52 am

“Anything beyond asking the number of people in my home is intrusive and has NO BEARING on the census. If this is about head counts, then why are they asking about age, race, and relationships? And let’s not EVEN get started on the long form which asks TOTALLY intrusive questions!”

The Census is in place to determine proper representation. Unfortunately, our country has a history of institutional racism expressed through gerrymandered districts. Understanding the racial demographic of an area ensures that the people responsible for districting do so without regard to race.

Beth

May 28th, 2010
1:53 am

Seth’s Mummy

May 27th, 2010
11:46 pm
Why so much hate from the right? Barak is just trying to make things fair, for all Americans, even those of us left in the gutter by the excess of the Bushie years.

We need to level the playing field, if that means more taxes, it is our patriotic duty to pay more. If it means that more representation goes to Blue states, than so be it. The worst thing the Palin, teabagger folks are doing is dissenting from the democratic process. Barak was elected by one of the biggest majorities to heal our wounds.

Dissent is the enemy of democracy!
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Are you for real??

What I find most amazing is that the left, the total and utter hypocrites that they are, love to toss around the “majority” card when it suits them, yet they ALSO want the minority to run the show. And I don’t mean minority in relation to race. Y’all are ALL about stealing the liberties of the hard-working backbone of this country just to give to the scabs and lowlifes.

You want fair? Go out and get it your own f*cking self. Greedy loser.

Mike

May 28th, 2010
1:55 am

Searching the 1880 census, I found that the census listed the names, ages, and occupations and where they were born, of all the residents of the houshold. i found that my grandfather was a 2 year old child at that time. The present day census did not ask anything beyond what was asked 130 years ago. From what I have been able to find out these are basically the same questions that have been asked on the short form census questionair that have been asked since the country was first founded. I know that the long form is quite a bit more detailed about the household and many consider it too nosey.

Beth

May 28th, 2010
1:55 am

Joe, if that was the case, then they wouldn’t have to ASK me my race. My race and my age is none of their damn business. If it’s SIMPLY about making sure X number of people have X number of representatives, then the number in my home suffices. HOWEVER, if it’s about X number in my home are X race and that race is singled out to get more of Y’s money, then they can go to hell. And we ALL know that’s what it’s all about.

Bryan, he proved nothing. You can drink the Kool-Aid if you wish, but some of us actually think for a living. You must be a welfare recipient. Baaahhh baaaaahhhhhhh.

Beth

May 28th, 2010
1:58 am

Have you seen a long form, Mike? I have. I got one last year and refused to answer beyond the first two questions. And I WORKED the damn census that year.

I realize that the census even waaay back when asked simple questions like that, but I don’t trust today’s government and what they’re doing with the info. And yes, I’d say the same thing if Bush was in office. I don’t trust any of them.

Oh, and Bryan, can you explain why Obeyme’s Social Security card was issued out of Connecticut two years after he started working? Especially since he’s never ever lived there?

Santiago

May 28th, 2010
2:04 am

It is VERY important to have the statistics. Yeah, statistics, not ’statistics’. Try as you might, the law will not change. They need to know who and how many live where. How do you think they know how many schools, hospitals, roads, and other necessities to build and where. People are grossly negligent about their civil responsibilities. I also believe people that do not vote should be coerced in a certain way. You OWE it to your country to participate.

Angry Voter

May 28th, 2010
2:05 am

Just look at how many pedos, rapists and other convicted felons got hired by the Census under their own real names.

Disgusting.

The government creates opportunities for criminals on purpose – nobody is that stupid!

Angry Voter

May 28th, 2010
2:07 am

@ “only if invited in”

I guess you missed the 3 stories in the last two weeks of people shot by police when they refused entry to Census spies.

gr8fuldaniel

May 28th, 2010
2:22 am

Guess what….If you had mailed in the Census like a responsible citizen, THEN you wouldnt have to worry about ANY of this crap!
Wah wah wah

Bear

May 28th, 2010
2:22 am

Fillink out forms now, pliz. Zat, or goink to gulag. Is beink your choice, Comrade…

Hail labor, tovarisch!

tfb

May 28th, 2010
2:25 am

I don’t consider the Obama regime legitimate, since he is not a natural born citizen which requires both parents be US citizens and that child be born in the USA…his father was Kenyan making him to this day a British citizen. He is a usurper, not my president, he’s a criminal and I don’t want his criminal regime intruding on my life. This lawless regime does not follow the constitution, they just try to tear it and this country down, so why should we?

Black Eagle

May 28th, 2010
2:30 am

There’s one simple remedy. Resist. Fight back. Don’t allow them. Make them threaten you, demand to see it in writing, demand they bring a cop and tell the cop he had better have his facts straight or you will sue them. Make it so problematic for them to behave like bullies that they will retreat. Otherwise, watch as your freedoms evaporate one by one. Today its the census. Tomorrow its your light bulbs or toilet paper, or your guns or reading material. Don’t laugh. Speak to anyone who lived in old East Germany or the USSR, or who escaped from Cuba. Give a petty bureaucrat the “authority” and guns, and society will go fascist, Constitution be damned.

gr8fuldaniel

May 28th, 2010
2:37 am

You people cost the taxpayers money. They have hire people to come to your house….because you are too damned immature to answer a few questions, and drop it in the mailbox. FREE POSTAGE, too!
This sounds like an IQ problem. I thought you guys were against big government? You made it bigger! You all sound like spoiled Brats! Grow up!

Black Eagle

May 28th, 2010
2:39 am

Hey Brian, If GW Bush was claimed to be born in Mexico, I seriously doubt if you would accept his “birth certificate” if all he did was post it to some right-wing blog website, and have the right-wing governor of Texas declare him as a resident. The fact that B. Hussein Obama does not call up the Hawaii BVS and request 100 copies, sent to the governor and secretary of state for every state in the union, even before the election, but DOES push a phoney scannned image which anyone reading this could photoshop with a bit of practice, is proof he is hiding something. McCain produced his records. BHO hasn’t produced his BC, and nothing else such as school records, his college transcripts, his university writings and other things that would reveal him to be the big faker he is. A Kenyan Muslim-Marxist, who faked and lied his way through to the White House, courtesy of the Democrat Party which is today taken over by hard-left Marxist types. Yeah, keep voting them in, and the census working pounding on your door with a cop will become routine. Wake up Americans, your freedoms are being snatched away right under your noses.

Bob Tron

May 28th, 2010
2:40 am

Wow, the census form was incredibly non-intrusive. Facebook knows volumes more about each of us, how we’re related, what our views are, and what we buy, than the Census Bureau will ever know.
If you’ve ever done genealogy research, you can also see much of the value that comes out of these things. Why the hell would anybody be so paranoid about a census that’s happened every 10 years in the US and was set in place by our founding fathers? Sure, being skeptical is healthy. Being downright irrational is not, especially about something that’s been in place and has a 210-year track record to look upon.

tfb

May 28th, 2010
2:51 am

It’s an insulting form, as if anything European is one kind, a CRACKER and yet they break up Hispanic, which is not even a race in to 9 subtypes, Asians in to 17 subtypes. That says about what this racist usurper illegal regime thinks of European Americans in a nutshell.

Bob Tron

May 28th, 2010
2:54 am

Shamelessly ripped from Wikipedia:

In 1980, 4 FBI agents went to the Census Bureau’s Colorado Springs office with warrants to seize Census documents, but were forced to leave with nothing. Courts upheld that no agency, including the FBI, has access to Census data.

Your grocery store, Google, Facebook, THIS WEBSITE, your credit card company, your bank, your technical support contact and India, and me if you offer me just your IP address or home phone number, know more about you than this census is asking you.

It’s your patriotic duty to fill out this census, and honestly, you’re all acting like babies about it.

tfb

May 28th, 2010
2:55 am

Bob Tron only fools use facebook; its founder literally called facebook users “dumbf*cks” for trusting him with their data.

tfb

May 28th, 2010
3:00 am

Black Eagle, you’re right, that digital “thing” Obama posted Hawaii refuses to verify, it represents that he filed that info himself but as it says it was never “accepted by registrar”, and Kapiolani and the Hawaii attorney general refuses to corroborate that he was born there. NOT that it matters since a natural born citizen (US v. Wong Kim Ark, Minor v. Happersett, Article II US Constitution, SR 511, Leahy, Chertoff even Obama says so) requires 2 US citizen parents and child born on US soil. The DNC altered its certification forms to remove language that he was constitutionally eligible. Look the Dems are gloating that they got away with installing a usurper, they’ve always known–and he’s an unmitigated disaster for this country. The dems always hated the constitution, look at how they applauded Calderon who fundamentally declared war on the US.

Seth

May 28th, 2010
3:04 am

WRONG, read your facts. As one of the few enumerators that has read the employee handbook you are way off base. We may only enter a residence at the invitation of a resident over the age of 18. That is if your leadership has allowed it. Also we are not even allowed to open storm doors to make sure our notice of visits are blow away by the wind. What, in all of those rules, says that we have the authority to enter someone’s place. Yes the federal laws that empower the US Census Bureau do allow this (in a cosmic sense), the entity itself has forbidden it. What the census is fining for is the people who are so stubborn they won’t even give us a head count on their residence, which is even written into the US Constitution.

I recommend for any further article, that you do at least some research before you go spouting off. Your editor should also be fired for not fact checking this either.

Bob Tron

May 28th, 2010
3:06 am

I agree TBF, but that’s only one of the many sites and services that exist to compile information on you and they in turn sell that information to others to make a profit. Facebook is an extreme example of this by corporations looking solely to exploit your information for profit, and should be of far more concern to you than your country trying to get some very basic information so that they can do the jobs we ask of them.

Ed

May 28th, 2010
3:07 am

Oh great. Ex-cons, rapists, and general all around losers can waltz right in. What could go wrong?

Mark

May 28th, 2010
3:08 am

Someone comes in my house uninvited and without a warrant, then I treat them as a trespasser, and I don’t call 911.

Seth

May 28th, 2010
3:14 am

It’s people like Mr. Barr here that make this so much harder than it has to be. Instead of going off of hearsay / old news, why don’t you take a second to do some research. Instead of spreading lies about a division of our gov. (that most people still don’t know about. I can’t tell you how many times I have been asked “What’s the Census Bureau?”), why don’t you try and make our jobs easier, and maybe, just maybe save a few of the tax payers dollars?

Pete

May 28th, 2010
3:26 am

I apologize here and now for putting my legal weapon into the face of anyone who enters my residence without waiting for me to open the door.

Argus

May 28th, 2010
3:39 am

Nope, sorry. You’re just wrong. I personally work for the Census, and they flat out tell you in training that even if you get invited in by the owner, you do NOT set foot inside a home. More importantly, we live in a free country that has a constitution. A constitution that states quite clearly that every ten years, we will count how many people live in our free country. If the government wanted to spy on your paranoid self, there are better ways to do it than sending me to your door. Maybe sending me to wait outside with a listening device.

Murkan Mike

May 28th, 2010
3:40 am

Seth, why don’t you try and save some taxpayer money, and quit the census! No wait, that wouldn’t work, some other useless mooch would just fill your position, and waste just as much money. Hmmmmm, I guess that since I am going to have to pay for this nonsense with money stolen from me with the threat of violence, I might as well just try and make your life as miserable as possible for soaking up my tax dollars. Maybe I’ll just not answer, make you drive out 3 times, point a booger ridden finger at you, stare at your crotch and lick my lips, and give you all kinds of nonsense answers to you and the aggressive violent institution you represent.

Don’t it sink in Seth, people hate the government, and hate you for trying to make it sound legitimate. Quit mooching off of me and quit representing those who steal my money, and you won’t have to whine like a schoolgirl on the forum.

Murkan Mike

May 28th, 2010
3:42 am

That goes for you too Argus!

Bob Tron

May 28th, 2010
3:44 am

This author doesn’t have the intellect required to read the law he’s talking about. His article is false. But he loves the 3 different cookie’s he’s put onto your computer (sure, go check) and the data you’ve given him in order to submit these comments. Thanks for the ads viewed too! He’s made a bit of money off you. That information will now be bundled and sold to another company that takes your information from many different sites and sources and builds a profile on you. This is for “targeted advertising purposes only”. It’s not the government that you need to be worried about, it’s the future. Everything is going this route, and the only way to avoid it is to live in a shack in the woods.
Your best bet is to learn about how this information is collected, what they’re looking for, and what you personally don’t want to be out there for everyone to see. You’ll never avoid it.

You Lie

May 28th, 2010
3:59 am

TITLE 13 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 223

§ 223. Refusal, by owners, proprietors, etc., to assist census employees

Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

[...] appears to be idiotic, plain and simple. Yet this Bob Barr fellow who is a former Congressman and now writes for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution seems to believe what he’s writing, and he’s got a lot of comments in his comments [...]

Jeff

May 28th, 2010
4:05 am

Yes, good luck. Also, I went to the training for this because I am broke, and they tell you straight up not to risk your life.

If you come to my place and say you are authorized to enter, I will say I am authorized to beat your ass- then you can enter.

Lloyd

May 28th, 2010
4:14 am

I work for the Census Bureau in a lower level of management and can tell you this man is a liar. He gave no citations. He gave no concrete examples. He gave not even a quote from an unnamed ‘knowledgable source.” We live in a country that is free enough that you can print lies and get away with it.

Taylor

May 28th, 2010
4:24 am

I, like many people, am also a temp census worker, and can confirm that the points in this article are false.

This is classic scare-tactics, and those that give census workers a hard time, are really messed up in the head.

Dennis Boylan

May 28th, 2010
4:34 am

If you don’t allow Census workers to enter your apartment terrorist will fly planes into them. Just leave milk and cookies for them.

David Roberts

May 28th, 2010
4:38 am

Well that’s what this law says. Since the efforts of the Administration to hand the census over to ACORN and their ilk, and the continued intimidation of the SEIU thugs, and to enlist the aid of schoolchildren to help complete the census taking, what used to be a minor annoyance has in part seemed to become a major intrusion. Here’s the excerpt that at best is a little vague, and at worst it like the flag@whitehouse.gov email address for citizens to report their neighbors who were disagreeing with the Obamacare plan. If this administration hadn’t been so intrusive with a number of different unprecedented efforts previous to this, I don’t think you’d see the ‘paranoia’ at such a high level.

” to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics”

P F

May 28th, 2010
4:40 am

How does that not conflict with the Fourth Amendment’s prohibition of illegal search and seizure?

truthseeker17

May 28th, 2010
4:46 am

This is all getting so out of control. I actually looked up laws on immigration to Canada. I can’t go though because I don’t have a college degree or family that live there. Something is seriously wrong here. I would happily pay the 500.00 to keep big brother out of my home. There is no such thing as freedom anymore unless you quit society and go live in the woods.

Katie

May 28th, 2010
4:47 am

Wow, that’s a retarded article. Oh, and btw, they used to be able to ask how many idiots and retards you had in your house. But right, “increasingly intrusive”. Compared to the census forms of the 1800’s, the form today is bland and vague.
But first you would have had to read history instead of making things up. I assume, like the author, most people are too obtuse and limited to actually read anything at all beyond what’s fed to them.
Yes, Author, you’d be checked “retard” on the form.

Patriot_Act

May 28th, 2010
4:47 am

Based on Matt Drudge’s journalistic methods, I could easily post a link titled “Rush Limbaugh is Seeking a Sex Change?” and link it to any type of article. Also, Bobby Barr must really miss the limelight.

Richard Jones

May 28th, 2010
4:56 am

In my community, we by law have the right to use deadly force to meet any unauthorized entry into our homes. As we discussed this at work,we debated which law would take priority, it was decided that the law of physics would take priority, while the federal and the local would be debated endlessly and a census worker somewhere else would need to use his eraser that day.

Richard Jones

May 28th, 2010
4:57 am

note – authorized = authorized by the lawful resident.

Craig

May 28th, 2010
5:07 am

No offense, but prove that this info is true….

Can you cite the source that you got this information from? If you don’t back up your statement with sources, it just looks like contrived commentary…

Binge Franklin

May 28th, 2010
5:16 am

Geechee, If you and your “enumerators” have such impressive resumes, why are you working for the census? Don’t misunderstand me. I am not insensitive to people who through no fault of their own lost their job. I just don’t believe you. Furthermore, those credentials mean nothing when you enter someone’s home behind their back. Doctors, PhD’s, CEOs, and many other “professionals” are in prison for rape, murder, theft, white-collar crime, etc. And any professional who has worked with professionals knows this best. Your reliance on such labels to assert non-goon status is highly suspect.

Bruce Farley

May 28th, 2010
5:22 am

this guy is nuts as a census worker we are told never to go in anyones home!

Me

May 28th, 2010
5:27 am

Bang Bang. One less government employee. They deserve what they get.

Census worker

May 28th, 2010
5:28 am

Thanks you jackass! I live in a rural community and am working for the census. I am just trying to get a job done and make a little money to help pay my bills. The outright lies you’ve written and the ignorant hicks that have responded here make me fear for my life. So far, I feel I’ve been fortunate, that I haven’t run across anyone that has been that rude or dangerous. But it is exceedingly irresponsible of this author to post this crap. If I get shot on this job, his name will be on the list of people getting sued for inciting my assailant.

C P

May 28th, 2010
5:32 am

An american community survey worker came to my house after I tossed two of their forms in the trash. I offered to pay the fine if they would send me the bill. After multiple calls and threats I asked them how many people have actually been fined for refusing to participate. I was told, “None that I know of.” I said, “Put me on that list.” Never heard from them again. When I received the 2010 census form I only answered how many people and what age. Haven’t heard from them yet either.

Binge Franklin

May 28th, 2010
5:34 am

You know, it is pretty clear who all the procensus comments come from here. It’s the usual suspects wealth-redistributors, and that and gerrymandering is all the census is about. Come on, quit playing games. Just admit that you are basically marxists at heart, and that you object to the villification of one of American marxism’s main tools. You know, with the stories of assault, rape, and robbery by some census workers that recently came out in the news, well you have to wonde about that too. Uckfay the ensuscay.

PA Republican in NY

May 28th, 2010
5:40 am

Hey Bob, how about a citation to the law so we can read it? It could be limited to requiring landlords to permit census workers into the common areas of gated communities and private apartment complexes (e.g., most luxury apartments have doormen who prevent access without authorization). If the language is too ambiguous, find a legal services agency to file a request for a declaratory order in federal court.

Willbarb

May 28th, 2010
5:47 am

It is tragically sad that so much hogwash is published, believed and reacted to with such flourishes of testosterone (so many gun references!) As a census worker in address verification, group home surveys and follow-up of non-responders I was trained three times — this article is whacko. The census project is another test of maturity for citizens. I entered very few homes, and only after polite invitations. The number of negative citizens who believe this article is thankfully small. Most non-responders were just very busy when the mail arrived. People I interviewed appreciate living in US of A and do what they can to help it. . .even allowing themselves to be counted.

Jim

May 28th, 2010
5:50 am

Bob, I’m sure you can cite the section of law that allows census workers to do this – and you should, because without backing up your statements with actual evidence it just sounds like paranoid fearmongering.

Ron in the Georgia Mtns

May 28th, 2010
5:50 am

Bob, have you ever even looked at the 2010 Census form?

It would be hard to make it much simpler and still get the information required by common sense use of the Census and the U.S. Constitution. Even if you go back 200 years, you’d find it was necessary to collect more information than just the raw numbers of people in the United States. You remember, don’t you, that they use to have to identify slaves so they could be counted as a fraction of a person? So, even in those “simpler times,” things were not as simplistic as seems to be wanted by you.

If you want to see complex and intrusive why don’t you take a look at the “long form” of the 2000 Census. Just in case you hadn’t heard, there is no “long form” on this, the 23rd Census of the United States.

UncleSam101

May 28th, 2010
5:51 am

It’s difficult to see what is wrong with a census worker telephoning a citizen to ask for census information. On the other hand, entering a house or apartment when not given permission by the occupant sounds downright hazardous for the census worker…and properly so. If my neighborhood a stanger in the house when the owner comes home could result in trajedy and police calls.

Jay

May 28th, 2010
5:53 am

Good thing we have the Constitution. O wait that only protects Criminals and illegal aliens in this country. I love living in the USSA

cj

May 28th, 2010
5:55 am

I sent my census form in answering the only Constitutionally required question: how many people live in my house on April 1, 2010. Beyond that, I’ll go to jail before I pay any fine or allow the ACORN worker thugs in my home!

Gretel

May 28th, 2010
5:59 am

The census worker in jail in Salem Indiana did enter the home and he is charged with taking more than credit cards and $$ lying around…he raped a disabled girl.
If a census worker comes to my door I will hide behind licked doors and call 911 and have them call that individual off….I completed my census form the exact number in my home and sent it in already.

bdwlexky

May 28th, 2010
6:00 am

Remember the woman who got shot by the police in her home over the mandatory census policy!!!

diane emmerich

May 28th, 2010
6:01 am

Over THEIR dead bodies!

tastey

May 28th, 2010
6:01 am

I dont mind the workers comming into my house its kind of hard to let them go after you deside how good they taste. Slow roasted in a 220 deg oven for 6 hrs covered with some garlic mmmm good eats Keep em comming hehehehe

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
6:02 am

Folks, I have worked as an administrative law attorney for the federal government, the following synopsis accurately sums up the intent of this intrusive law.

BTW, all the census workers posting here really need to THINK about what they’re saying and writing. We citizens don’t care what you learn in your training or in your manuals, we care about the government using every means possible to spy, snoop and attack the citizenry. Plus, you have a crappy job, are a government stooge and just away for Biraq to falsely boost his unemployment “figures” – do this republic a favor, shut up and quit.

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the following binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Jabonz

May 28th, 2010
6:03 am

I work for the ACS. There is no way in he!! I would enter anyone’s abode without the respondent’s permission. There might be some ‘Rambo without a jockstrap’ a$$hole that would attempt anything that stupid; me: not a shot in he!!. I mean, if I found some NRFU (non responce followup enumerator) in my house without my permission, were talking chumslick. The last words that idiot would hear is: Have you ever seen the movie “Fargo” before they go head first into the woodchipper. While we are legally allowed access, in order to close the case, we need cooperation. Thug-like bully tactics don’t get results. Strong politeness does with a balance of respect for the privacy and dignaty of the respondent.

Pumba

May 28th, 2010
6:04 am

This is typical to the governements trickary on words. “Interpretation” is 9 tenths (9/10) of the law and can be tied up in the courts for years with the citizens having to prove they are right and in the mean-time go broke trying to stand up for their rights. Don’t take me wrong, I believe in a census to account for the number of citizens, but not at the expense of invasion of privacy. Why don’t they do a census on the number of illegal’s in the U.S.?

Wally

May 28th, 2010
6:05 am

I read the code; they have the right to gain access as they cannot be denied such – just another obommie-commie tactic.

Didn't vote for O

May 28th, 2010
6:05 am

I didn’t drink the Kool Aid and I didn’t vote for our current president, but I work the Census and I know what Mr. Barr has written is wrong and is DESIGNED to incite. “A house divided against itself cannot stand ” and based on this article I think Mr. Barr is one of the tools being used to saw America in half, otherwise his behavior makes no sense.

Enumerators may NOT enter individual premises. In fact, we are cautioned against doing it, even if we are invited in.

There is considerable talk about protecting privacy and it generally comes from people who plaster their lives all over the internet. One person who refused to answer the basic questions I asked, because he/she wanted to protect his/her privacy evidently forgot about the 6 column newspaper article, detailing everything in his/her life, recently written about him/her.

Gretel

May 28th, 2010
6:11 am

This is what sending multitudes of largely unvetted groups of people out to canvas neighbors.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23519483/detail.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291904

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-women-raped-by-census-worker-051110,0,3578244.story

Woman raped by census worker
A U.S. Census worker has been charged with rape and burglary, after two women in southern Indiana claim they were attacked. One of the victims was a 21 year-old physically handicapped woman.

Ella

May 28th, 2010
6:18 am

Get your facts straight.
This decade’s census doesn’t even ask as many questions as the 1790 census…this census it’s just how many people live here…names. age, race (to base immigration % rate at 2% per race) do you live there year round, do you own or rent…

And, No they can’t enter your apartment. Landlords/Gated communities have to offer access to the area/building. You do not have to give them people’s cell numbers.
Cenus workers can’t even open outside storm doors to leave a notice of visit…they have to wedge it under or in the door.

LIGHTHORSE

May 28th, 2010
6:21 am

I had a census worker come to my house and when he found out I am Native American he called me halfbreed. Hey Obama, your Buffalo Soldiers killed my Great Grand father.

Rick

May 28th, 2010
6:26 am

First of all, this article is completely false. Second, this article could precipitate hatred feelings toward census workers and endanger census workers lives (My wife being one of them).
She has told me that she is not allowed to even open an outer screen door.
This article should be pulled immediately.

mack

May 28th, 2010
6:28 am

hey check out this sweet political news website http://www.thepartisandialogues.com

AWE

May 28th, 2010
6:30 am

If you would have just filled out the paper from the get go, then you wouldn’t have to worry about them showing up anyways.

ben

May 28th, 2010
6:31 am

Yep Bob, This article is garbage. No census worker or any person in their right mind would attempt to enter a home without someones knowledge. It would be suicide.

vika

May 28th, 2010
6:34 am

Rita,
Your comments about “toothless tea party peaople” is incorrect. As a matter of fact I think it is the feminatzi liberal women who don’t look so good… I think liberals are unhappy losers who want to feel like they are part of something….
and please Rita, don’t start on “teabaggers” because you are NOTHING compared to me. May I add, I am not toothless…I am a 5′9 high fashion model ( yes, the real kind) and I can make you feel very insecure ….

vika

May 28th, 2010
6:34 am

“are incorrect”

Ashley Riddle

May 28th, 2010
6:34 am

Id happily make an example of them with a .357 mag.

SirCoolBreeze

May 28th, 2010
6:35 am

Your red herring is showing again, Bob.

Smedly

May 28th, 2010
6:36 am

Everyone in the country should practice civil disobedience by not ever filling in any paperwork, nor cooperate with the Big Brother Census Bureau.

vika

May 28th, 2010
6:38 am

Well, obama already “sawed ” America in half…. now the morans on the left need to wake up…
that is unless they are really believe in what is going on then they need to leave..

democrat

May 28th, 2010
6:40 am

Apartment living, ahhhh the beauty of it.
Living shoulder to shoulder with other democrat voters, having traded personal freedoms for nickel and dime goodies from the washington elite.
Can it get any better than that?
Just leave the door unlocked or the key under the mat, and let the feds and who-ever come and go as they please.

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Anthony

May 28th, 2010
6:44 am

“or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

A link posted by e masters trying to debunk this article actually reinforces it….if the people posting after reading his post would have read the article they would not agree with him…read the link..read the law, read the bill, what is wrong with you liberals???

Google “egress and ingress” if you dont know what it is…

Alan GRAYSON

May 28th, 2010
6:44 am

I had a census worker come to my house and they counted me twice, because of my size and my huge……. Ego.

Boca Baby

May 28th, 2010
6:46 am

I am a Census Crew Leader and you cannot imagine how many people just refuse to answer any questions. Our problem is that the census is a constitutionally mandated operation. It is tied to the number of representatives each state has in the House of Representatives. And if you want to “tap dance” around it you should know that the census was mandated many, many years before an income tax return was required. Look at it this way: Refuse to provide census information or fail to file a tax return and the federal government is going to look into the matter.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
6:47 am

Of course, we can trust all the census takers and union thugs posting here, they are from the gubmint, and they are here to help.

Who wouldn’t trust this government 100% owned by Soros, CitiBank, BoA, BP and every other Fortune 100 company. We slowly went from a republic under Reagan to a plutocracy under the Kenyan muzzie. Thanks sheeple for spending more time watching “Idol” then watching our jobs, money and liberty evaporate since Dec-2006.

Shrektruck

May 28th, 2010
6:50 am

Wrong! Wrong! Wrongitty Wrong! Along with the other census workers her I can tell you that you are either misinformed or just plain lying. There are enough ACTUAL government intrusions in our lives that are unconstitutional, subversive and just plain wrong. Why don’t you focus on something real? Much like chicken little, you have not done your research. I suspect you have a pretty bad case of Beck envy. Seek counseling and then educate yourself.

gibby

May 28th, 2010
6:52 am

The 3 visit rule went out the window pretty quick. The census bureau was no longer ‘accepting’ people not being home or refusing to answer the questions. So, the workers were told to go back to the house 6 times, and even if the people give you the number of residents, but not their names, ages, birthdates, and race…they keep going back to try to get the info. They were to look up phone numbers on the internet and call after they were there six times. Also, if the initial census worker couldn’t get the info, then the bureau sends out another worker to try again. It is like the Gestapo! You were also not allowed to talk to the press!

Under Seige

May 28th, 2010
6:57 am

To “Fight the Good Fight,” you say the census workers are only permitted to return to the home 2 times and leave contact information. I don’t know what the actual rules are but you are incorrect in terms of the actual practice. I had a census person return to my home 10 times! Banging on my door every day. Clearly, these people are paid by the form completed. It’s just creepy big government. One of the questions is how many hispanics live in the home? What does that have to do with counting people? Communism, here we come! This isn’t about counting, it’s about control.

Vince

May 28th, 2010
6:58 am

Anyone comes through my door uninvited will think they landed at Normandy Beach.

Les Ismore

May 28th, 2010
7:02 am

Why is it that for the most part, the tolerance crowd on here expresses no tolerance just personal attacks on conservatives? That is why I don’t even discuss politics with the “true believers” anymore. There is no exchange of ideas, or position discussions, just a lot of personal attacks and reiterating the talking points set out by MSNBC and the DNC. No original thoughts. Anyway, I was worried about all the intrusiveness that I thought was coming with the census. I got the ten question form and was surprised how benign I thought it was. There was a question or two that I did not answer, but I did not think it was that bad. I do agree that there is no need for questions on race, sex, relationships, etc. NOT THEIR BUSINESS. If we are all the same, why the need to know? I don’t want a visit though. I don’t think that is required, and think it would be intrusive.
To the poster that said “If you’ve got nothing to hide then you’ve got nothing to worry about.”, I say in a free society you don’t have to be guilty to not like intrusiveness. This is the excuse used against you to make you feel like you are wrong.
You left wing haters need to start working on rational responses, not attacks on Palin and conservatives. Oh, that’s right tolerance means always agreeing with your point of view, not an acceptance of alternative views. “I tolerate you by attacking you and your opinions.” If you really hate the little freedoms we have left here, don’t wreck it further, go to one of the “people’s paradises” you promote, but don’t live in, like Cuba, Red China, North Korea, etc. See how far your personal opinion goes there. You’ve got to love a place that puts up mine fields, fences, and armed guards to keep the “free peoples” from running like hell to get to America.

Dave Ficere

May 28th, 2010
7:02 am

Not only that, but we filled out the form, answering only the first two questions. After dodging a visit from the census worker, I called the local office and politely explained we had complied with the legal requirement and they should not visit us again, because we weren’t going to give them any other information. Several days later, my neighbor and I were talking and he told me the census worker showed up at his house and was asking questions ABOUT US. Like, who lived there, how many kids we had, etc. Thankfully, my neighbor played dumb and didn’t give them any information. Apparently these workers are paid for each complete form they turn in.

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Inquirer

May 28th, 2010
7:03 am

Additional proof that the United States Congress is sick!

http://www.CONGRESSisSICK.com

Clearly, it is time to purge Congress!

http://www.PurgeCongress.com

Brad

May 28th, 2010
7:05 am

The Conservative movement is not helped when one of our own writes nonsense. It gives the libs ammunition with which to attack us. Bob had a nice congressional career, but lately seems to have been taken with an outlandish “conspiracy theory” bug. This article of his is pure nonsense, as I imagine most of you realize.

rufus levin

May 28th, 2010
7:05 am

This is the worse excuse for journalism I have ever read, and is filled bith bile and foolishness. I have been working with the census to help get our community properly enumerated, so that we get to keep our number of representatives in the Congress, and so that we can collect a few statistical data points to help plan for schools and social services over the next ten years. We are allowed to go into apartment COMPLEXES and GATED communities. WE ARE NOT allowed to go into dwellings UNLESS INVITED BY THE OCCUPANT. I have found MANY people who are mad at the Federal Government, or have been frightened by the media and writers like this idiot into thinking that the CENSUS is BIG BROTHER. It operates like a survey company, not like the IRS. If anyone does not wish to answer data other than headcounts, we are trained NOT to be intrusive. The data helps the nation, does not get data that cannot frankly be gotten for the most part over the internet with search engines. I find every day that fine citizens, once they have learned how and why the census happens, are more than happy to provide data and then thank me for carring enough to go out in 95 degree weather and knock on doors to complete the ten year task that is required by the Constitution of the US. The First one was in 1790. The 2010 census askes about the same amount of info as did the FIRST one. The form and questions take me on average about 3 minutes to complete, and it is easier on the folks that filling out the original form mailed to them. So, come on, folks….stop the Glen Beck and Keith Olbermann polor sides of paranoid thinking. This is STILL AMERICA, and the Census Folks are just AMERICANS. With this economy having millions out of work, I have found that many census workers for this task are lawyers, accountants, executives, sales and marketing folks, that have lost jobs and careers, and are helping out for the small change they are paid, but are enthusiastic and energetic and knowledgeable. I am sure that other areas of the country may not have the exact same composition of the census teams…but other than a lot of operational foolish bureaucratic processes that we go through due to it being a Government entity, the census seems to be a pretty benign thing happening in our nation. The media keeps trying to find stuff to sensationalize for shock value of the readers, and with 700,000 temporary workers I am sure that stuff happens that is not so cool. But that is true of anything from sports to political rallies.

Brad

May 28th, 2010
7:05 am

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Unreal

May 28th, 2010
7:06 am

Mr. Barr you are living in the land of the free. How else would you be able to read, processes normal documents then, rearrange the meaning in your mind, justify your agenda by by leaving out the actual meaning of the document and then post it for the world to see. How much more freedom do you need? shame on you that you actually think people reading your posts are so ignorant to believe census workers can just walk into your place of residents. The damn landlord cant even do that with his own rental property without 24hr notice. Stupid man Stupid man stupid man to the poster that said Bob is a great guy, sorry no human set out to manipulte everyone he comes into contact with deserves nothing more than evil status because there is always a hidden agenga behind every action unfortunatly this does not apply only to polititions

P.Henery 'liberty or death'

May 28th, 2010
7:09 am

Byron Mathison Kerr

May 26th, 2010
7:23 am

“Scary! Good incentive to take those few moments to fill out that simple census form.”

Moron, there is no “good incentive ” to give away any freedom and liberty, it’s cowards like you that would rather live on his knees before the All Powerful Federal Beast, than Live free and die if necessary. Good thing cowards like you are in the minority.

Mike

May 28th, 2010
7:10 am

I think they hired most of the 400,000 census workers from rejected TSA applications. The next best thing to raiding luggage is ungated access to all those luxury apartments!

GOOOoooooo DAWGS!

May 28th, 2010
7:11 am

Rita

iRun

You two are F*UCKING IDIOTS. One of you in a Kool-Aid stupor, and one of you thinking this is some kind of f*ucking quaint a$$ed geneology dig.

GEEEEEZ! When are you sheeple going to WAKE UP and realize that this is the soft revolution of boiling frogs.

I answered “4″ on my census and mailed it back the very next day. No taunting remarks, just the facts. Some alcoholic F*AG came my door, I swear, not two weeks later saying how I “DIDN’T” send in my form at all. I begged to differ with him and told him that if he planned to lie to ME to get answers, lying was all he would get in return.

I skinned out five hundred bucks and informed him this would gladly cover the fine, but he was getting nothing more than was Constitutionally mandated and would he like to be carried in numerous small bags or mopped off my porch if he did not remove himself from it immediately?

He asked if I was threatening him. I said “No, mister, its a promise.”

He left.

I anticipate an audit, which I pay dearly to avoid every year, so BRING IT ON YOU TEAT SUCKLING B*ASTARDS!!!!!

And Cynthia>>>>> YOU RAWK.

Greg Webber

May 28th, 2010
7:12 am

I’m glad I don’t rent, but if I did and I caught a census worker in my home his guts would be turned to kraut by my shotgun.

Art

May 28th, 2010
7:12 am

The purpose of the census is to count people. If no people are present at a residence, what business does a census worker have there? Are they going to count bed sheets and then make a grand assumption as to how many live there? Is that not legally the same as a resident “estimating” how many live in their abode, and is that not against the law as stated on the form?

I think, rather, this is meant to show the American people who the real boss is around here, and it isn’t us. It might be a good time to start leaving gallons of paint precipitously balanced on the top of your front doors …… as a welcoming gift for the hapless census worker.

Bob

May 28th, 2010
7:12 am

And when I arrive home and find a stranger in my apartment, they will be in grave danger of being shot.

GOOOoooooo DAWGS!

May 28th, 2010
7:14 am

And rufus levin can gof*uckhimself.

Unreal

May 28th, 2010
7:14 am

Let me tell you how ticked off I am about this article i am posting for a second time. Hey Barr. Please write and article of truthfulness, write something we can believe in to actually rally around a conservative cause. So, just know this Barr your credibility is in the pisser. All this because you have to make something up just to be an ALARMIST are you really in that much need of attention ? unreal

P.Henery 'liberty or death'

May 28th, 2010
7:15 am

rufus levin

May 28th, 2010
7:05 am

“…I have been working with the census…., and so that we can collect a few statistical data points to help plan for schools and social services over the next ten years…”

Could you please show us where in the Constitution this info. is required to be given?

Backwalker

May 28th, 2010
7:15 am

I married and moved to my husband’s home. I still work with patients out of my former home. I filled the census form out for my new addy and don’t even recieve mail at the old house, so never got a census form there. While I was working the other day, the census worker showed up and triggered the motion sensor outside the door. She never knocked or let me know she was there. I stuck my head out and was informed she needed info for the census. I told her I was working. She insisted I make an appt with her for a later time. I told her I was working and could not talk to her at this moment. I watched out the window to make sure she left, instead, she took my business card off the table and wrote in the info onto a form she was carrying! So If she was filling out “my” census form it was all incorrect info. I had already filled out my census form.

Jose Noway

May 28th, 2010
7:16 am

I DEMAND that AJC or Bob Barr cite the source that this is legal and lawful. What is the law, its code, etc.? As your article is now, it is strictly opinion, and you have not cited ONE instance where this has happened, or backed up your claim with documents. Otherwise, this is fear-mongering propaganda LIES.

jlwm

May 28th, 2010
7:16 am

To all of you folks saying that the census only has 10 simple questions….. Look up the “American Community Survey.” This is the other census that you are apparently unaware of. You’ll be amazed at the intrusiveness. It’s not done every 10 years either, it’s mailed out on a monthly basis to a number of citizens as to keep it somewhat under the radar. In other words, the long census form that everyone was complaining about and many never returned in 2000 NEVER went away. This is their sneaky way of conducting it. You will all receive it sooner or later when your number comes up. It’s like the old long form that asks you what time you leave for work, where you work, your income, etc. I received one and am NOT sending it in. Look it up and educate yourselves. The 10 question “regular census” is a red herring. You will receive the “American Community Survey” eventually. And your reply “is required by law.” Bull, it’s blatantly unconstitutional.

Jami

May 28th, 2010
7:16 am

I guess no one understands their 4th amendment right? It prohibits unlawful search and seizure. Here’s what the law states about administrative searches:

“Administrative searches: In some cases, the government can conduct administrative searches. These are searches done for purposes other than law enforcement; for example, for a fire inspection. Court authorization is required for involuntary administrative searches, although the standards are lower. The only time the government doesn’t need a warrant for an administrative search is when they are searching businesses in highly regulated industries such as liquor, guns, strip mining, waste management, nuclear power, etc. This exception to the warrant requirement clearly does not apply to the average homeowner, activist organization or community group.”

Notice where it says, COURT AUTHORIZATION IS REQUIRED. i.e warrants.

Also, think about it. What information can they gather if no one is home? They can’t account for how many live there that way, they can’t account for your race, they can’t account for the ages of the persons living there. When will common sense prevail?

Paul

May 28th, 2010
7:17 am

The half-blind leading the blind. I’ve never read such incredible nonsense in my life.

raajlil

May 28th, 2010
7:19 am

I don’t know about the truth of this article, it seems too obviously illegal to be credible, even for the Obamanation administration. But I do know what I was told by a census worker (who was very polite and pleasant btw) He said he was told that the reason the form asks so many questions about race is so the government knows how to distribute funds to certain areas that are more “in need”. Now if that isn’t a blatant admission of redistribution of wealth I don’t know what is.

Sheri

May 28th, 2010
7:21 am

I find it hard to believe that people will believe all the crap the Whitehouse puts out but will not believe that the Government is intent on getting more control over our lives. Census workers may be told to not enter any home, but the law allows those who wish to enter in your house if warranted. Interpretation of this law by Bob is not far fetched in the least. When it does happen to you, I told you so would not be so funny.

raajlil

May 28th, 2010
7:22 am

I agree with Brad–it undermines our credibility when we insist on spreading rumors like this. We accuse the Left of fear-mongering, let’s not stoop to the same level. We have truth on our side.

smarter than you democrat

May 28th, 2010
7:23 am

The so-called community survey put out by the census bureau has about 10 pages of intrusive questions, that even the most willing; don’t want to answer. Much personal info has been “lost or stolen” .
I think the only qualification for that ever daunting census worker is to be a dedicated nag.
It use to be an insult to be called a nagging shrew.
What happened with that?
Oh, no one has blamed Bush so far, called anyone a racist, although a lefty called someone a moron but misspelled ‘ moron “.
Ya gotta love the mis- information ( lies ? )
” Your information is safe with us ” is so cute!

Andy

May 28th, 2010
7:25 am

Yeah this country really stinks huh Greg. Skip your taxes for a year and move to Mexico,Iraq,Iran, North Korea or really anywhere else as we dont need the like of you anyhow.

SockRayBlue

May 28th, 2010
7:25 am

Aw c’mon. Where is the old school spirit? What ever happened to the days of screwing with government employees (even the temporary ones)? Everyone takes this so seriously. Do you have to answer the door every time some one knocks? What good does it do if the dogs are in the BACK yard?

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bob

May 28th, 2010
7:30 am

to Greg in the Highlands………. take out a loan and use the money to GET OUT!!! you can default on it since yu dont want to be here and wont be coming back. LEAVE if you really want. dont let the govt that you are so critical of stop you. you dont want to be here so put your money where you is and GET OUT!!!

Don

May 28th, 2010
7:31 am

Bob…I love you man….but you’re just wrong here. I’m an enumerator and we’ve been instructed that for those apartments on our list that we do not get an answer at the door, we are to go speak to the apartment manager. He/she has an obligation to help us fill out the forms for those units, based on who was or wasn’t living there on April 1st.

We’re NOT going into apartments….that’s just silly. Listen man, I’m as conservative as they come, and would not be doing this if I thought that it was intrusive. The enumeration forms are very short and simple, and compared to the questions asked of people in say, 1870, this is nothing.

Project Thor

May 28th, 2010
7:32 am

What i have a problem with is when these bone-headed Obama goons come onto POSTED land and confront me in my backyard… and they wondered why i greeted them with 2 Great Danes and a green laser dot in the middle of their chest. I asked if they could read… they said they could. I asked if they read the “NO TRESPASSING” sign at the end of my driveway… they said that it doesn’t apply to them. So, i turned my dogs loose and had THEM show him where the property line was.

Lord, will November ever get here?

DOUGGIE

May 28th, 2010
7:32 am

Is this the good old USA? I thought they only did this in Iran, China. Hey, how’s all that hope and change going? Isn’t this great? We have a bunch of Socialist in charge… for those of you who voted them, suffer the consequences.

Violet

May 28th, 2010
7:33 am

The government forces us to be their slaves. If you sell everything you own, remember to check out US laws. They could care less if you leave, but sorry your money has to stay in the US. I would not be allowed to sell my home and move to Belgium and buy another home under the laws Slick Willie put into place.

Government feels they have the right to destroy our country, just because it helps their cozy relationships with big corporations. Everyone of the politicians that have taken oil money should step down. They should also be put on trial for not protecting the US which they should be held accountable for. All the oil money they have collected from 1973 on should be put in a trust fund for the health care of the people that we are going to have to pay the long term health effects for. Remember 7 workers are still in the hospital due to getting sick from the cleanup.

No coal, nuclear, or oil for energy. I would much rather see tidal energy, solar, of wind power. Sure there isn’t a lot of money in it right now, because it doesn’t harm the people. We could put a whole new generation to work in the next 5 years if we started working on it today. Won’t happen due to politicians greed. Got one word of advise for them. I am watching and leaving messages with my Senators in CA today. If I get no response from their offices by Monday, my vote will be against them on TUESDAY!

Sad, that we live in a country where our kids are being murdered by our government throughout the world, for what? Rich old greedy white haired mens oil. Steal a piece of pizza and go to prison for life, destroy the Gulf of Mexico and get your hands slapped. If you want to be a lying, crooked, thief, never having to take responsibility, never being held accountable, knowing how to look people in the face and be a liar, join the government.The US government is a GREAT ROLE MODEL, (NOT)!

Insane Husain

May 28th, 2010
7:33 am

I hope they find my pet Gaboon Viper. Save me the trouble of a bullet.

JackO

May 28th, 2010
7:33 am

Why not give them access? Obama has to count all the money before he can redistribute the wealth! What’s wrong with you people, you actually think you have rights in the new Peoples Democratic Republic of the US? Great Leader Kim Il Bama is in control. We have so much oil we can afford to just let it run like milk and honey in the promised land.

Project Thor

May 28th, 2010
7:34 am

And please, i don’t want to hear any of you left wingnuts griping… this is Texas and we have Castle Law here.

glenn saunders

May 28th, 2010
7:42 am

dear bob barr,
you spent most of your life in government either creating this crap or facilitating this crap or condoning this crap. now your out with a significant pension that i am probably paying for and you are now a critic.. a little hypocritical don’t you think. maybe you could spearhead some action to fix this greivous error, again probably created on your watch. sincerely glenn saunders

bob

May 28th, 2010
7:42 am

now post the specific documents and federal laws that prove these lies that you are spreading. come on lets see the proof………

BigRik

May 28th, 2010
7:46 am

Why is it that liberals can’t present an opposing view without resorting to name calling and insults? It must be tough being a liberal and having to go through life so full of hatred and contempt for people just because they disagree with them politically. What happened to courtesy and the idea of respectful debate. if you believe the facts of this article are wrong present your rebuttal in a clear and concise manner and I will take it seriously. Call people names and claim they hate the constitution and I will dismiss you as a crackpot. This is of course only one mans opinion.

Keith

May 28th, 2010
7:48 am

While most census works won’t ‘demand’ to come into your home, and will only do so when invited in, this law is a joke. I’m sure that the majority of census workers don’t even know this, yet once this story makes its way around the census offices, which we know it will, those less than desireable census workers will say ‘I CAN and WILL come into your own’. Its amazing that these federal works are empowered to come into your home if you are there or not, yet any law enforcement agency, or anyone else for that matter, must have a warranty to get in your home.

Russ Miller

May 28th, 2010
7:50 am

I received my Census packet about a month ago or so. I fully intended to fill it out. However, it was an extremely busy tme for my business and in my private life.

A mere 8 days passed and I was almost ready to fill it out. That day I received a “threat letter” from the Census Letter with intimidation language in the letter.

I will not be filling the packet out now, due to general principle.

GetAGrip

May 28th, 2010
7:50 am

If people would just fill out the simple form, which takes all of 2 minutes, they wouldn’t have to worry about a census worker coming to their home. Americans have become such cry babies and complain about EVERYTHING! With big issues like the oil spill, Iran, N. Korea, a total radical in the White House who’s is destroying this country . . . you want to complain about filling out a simple form – get a grip.

Robert D

May 28th, 2010
7:53 am

If I come home and find one in my apartment, I will consider that person to have broken in and a serious threat to my personal safety and that of my family. The only way to deal with B&E suspects: beat them to a pulp, hog tie them, and dump them naked 50 miles out of town.

BFDeal

May 28th, 2010
7:53 am

Good thing Acorn is out of business!! wink wink. Those monkeys would be crawling all over the place. Whew, that was a close one..

Lance Cordill

May 28th, 2010
7:54 am

In any event, it is what the US Census says that your census reporting status is that counts. NOT, what YOU, the teller of stories about what you did or did not do with your census reporting that counts. Please, don’t offend the census workers. We are only out doing our constitutionally mandated and taxpayer financed temporary job. Most of us are your neighbors that you do not even know live right next to you.

RGM

May 28th, 2010
7:55 am

Last night, while eating dinner in my downstairs garage because it is cool there, and very hot outside, a car pulls in my driveway. I get up from the table and a very frazzled, sweaty looking woman immediatlely in a very rude matter shouts down my driveway to me “What is the address of this place” WTF???? I tell her “Get out of here”. The next thing out of her pie hole is “I’m with the census and whips out this thing that could have been an ID I guess. Told her “I don’t care, I sent mine in. Get out of here” Why would some maniac looking woman come cruising in my driveway shouting for my address? I don’t know, but I tend to be wary of strangers shouting down my driveway for info. Youse have got to get your stuff togeather, that was too weird.

Fools!

May 28th, 2010
7:57 am

Major problem with people: They believe everything they are told – look at all the foolish comments on this blog! Did any of you do a bit of research to learn the truth? Lack of education and pure ignorance is not helping this country at all! They’ll just lead the sheep to pasture! Fools!

Lance Cordill

May 28th, 2010
7:57 am

No, US Census workers are NOT allowed to go into ANY residence unless invited. Case closed. However, US citizens failing to cooperate are sure thanked for all thee extra paid hours you give us by NOT cooperating or making up stories to further your own egos!

JC

May 28th, 2010
7:58 am

http://www.jacksonheraldtoday.com/archives/3546-Alleged-Census-worker-damages-doors.html

Here is the kind of stuff that can happen when they are allowed by law to demand access to your house.

Live2eng

May 28th, 2010
7:59 am

Although it seems the law is specifically for allowing access in gated communities and apartments and not access to the interior of individual living areas, I still have a problem with the law. Everyone here seems to agree that the government does not have the right to enter the gated wall around Al Gore’s private home, but as soon as two of us agree to buy a duplex inside such a gate, we would have to allow them to come to the door of the house. I don’t see where the limits on government activity change because more than one of us decide to gate our yards together instead of separately. If the census worker is having trouble with a non responsive respondent, make an appointment and meet them at the gate, or on the sidewalk in front of the apartment building. Anyone who will not agree to such a meeting will not likely be forthcoming with truthful information simply because a census worker knocks on the door without having been buzzed up, and going door to door asking questions about the neighbors in such a building seems like the type of harassment that people are trying to avoid by living where no one will be outside your door unless you buzzed them in. I wonder if this is the only example of the government being allowed to enter private property, against the will of the owner, under threat of punishment, without due cause to believe a crime has been committed?

Townsend McCarthy

May 28th, 2010
8:05 am

I am so confused. I viewed my deceased parents census on the internet, and now I don’t know which race I belong to.

RallyG

May 28th, 2010
8:06 am

They got one answer from me,”Two people live here.”
Nothing else.
I got a letter saying to expect the forms, the forms(twice) and a postcard saying I should have received the forms. Also had two visits, and I gave them the same answer. This, along with all the stupid ads is a real waste of our tax dollars. Oh, thst’s right, it’s Odumbo and the corrupt democrats in charge, isn’t it?

Alexander Hamilton

May 28th, 2010
8:06 am

The census DOES NOT supercede the U.S. Constitution. The last time I checked, a WARRANT is required:

Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

What part is NOT CLEAR? I am very disappointed that some pencil neck geek didn’t come to my door and demand access. The court case would have been fun! I know that I would have walked away with a few million dollars and someone’s job!

John W

May 28th, 2010
8:07 am

Better hope they don’t make a mistake and enter unlawfully (I don’t give a @#$% about what they think the law says) when I am actually home. My state has the castle law and no duty to retreat law – that means you enter my house without my permission – I can lawfully shoot you down without hesitation.

Mary Alice

May 28th, 2010
8:08 am

Not only can they enter your rented abode, they can also question minors. I came home and the census worker was questioning my daughter, who is a minor. This should not be allowed at all!!
The census worker told me it their right to speak to anyone. WE SHOULD DEMAND THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO MINORS.

herbstine

May 28th, 2010
8:11 am

The part that annoys me the most is the waste & incompetence. I got the Census packet, filled it out & sent it off. 2 weeks later, I get another identical one. What the hay, I filled it out & sent it off also. Last week I find one of those “Sorry I missed you” notes form a census taker in my package box. They want me to call long distance to make an appointment. I pay thousands of dollars every year to the Feds & this is the clown act they come up with for the census?

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GOOOoooooo DAWGS!

May 28th, 2010
8:13 am

Hey you lame-oid Libs>>>>

Why are you so hysterical about Barr’s “accuracy”? If he IS wrong (which he isn’t), who cares if he’s “fearmongering”. What the hell difference would it make to your tiny little torpid lives?

Me thinks you protest WAaaaaay to much, because he has OBVIOUSLY hit a nerve.

There is a streak of fear in your little rants against Barr that just tickles my a$$.

Keep it up. You guys are pathetic.

And hysterical in more ways than one.

Fox Newsers

May 28th, 2010
8:14 am

It’s so easy to spot the Fox News watchers in these threads. Just keep on repeating what domestic terrorists like Hannity tell you to say. Baaaah, sheep. Baaaah.

John W

May 28th, 2010
8:16 am

Reply to Lance Cordill – #$@% you and your constitutionally mandated job – you come to my house and act like a goon who is ‘empowered’ to try and bully me I will put my foot in your @#$. You act like a human being instead of a monkey then you will get your information quite easily. Your comment: “Most of us are your neighbors that you do not even know live right next to you.” That means you are probably all jerks (I know all my neighbors) to begin with and you get off on the thought of being able to hold authority over others (which by the way is NOT ‘constitutionally mandated’). You wanker – hehe!

Tom Palka

May 28th, 2010
8:18 am

That is shocking to me. It isn’t true..I was taught as a crew leader and worked as an enumerator. We were told NOT to enter a non-occupied apartment, nor even look into the windows of a home. You can ask a neighbor (proxy) about a non-response address, but never enter without permission from the individual occupant.

Fox Newsers

May 28th, 2010
8:18 am

GOOOoooooo DAWGS! Baaaaaah! Baaaaaah! Keep it up, kiddo. The conservative brain is a fascinating specimen. It’s run foremost by fear. You are an impotent little child, kid.

RallyG, did Boortz tell you to say that? Keep on repeating whatever you get told to say. They love it when you idolize them. They love it when they have complete control over the people. “Two people live here.” Hurrrr…drrrrr.

Tucker

May 28th, 2010
8:21 am

i don’t believe this for a minute. what does gaining access to an apartment or rental property do to count persons living there? Please provide sources.

The real issue on the census is how it is being run. Stories of people being hired and fired over-and-over are emerging that indicate it is a big cluster and turning to a political tool to overcount in some areas (democrat) and undercount in others so that the northeast liberal base doesn’t lose seats.

There are going to be huge lawsuits over this thing because it is not being done correctly, regardless if they have the power to get in to a vacant apartment or not.

Fox Newsers

May 28th, 2010
8:21 am

John W…ooooh. Threats of violence. Wow. You sound scary. Oh wait. No, that’s not it. You sound insecure, impotent, and unstable. In other words, you sound like the typical conservative.

Gerry Eggers

May 28th, 2010
8:21 am

Enter your comments here
Bob Barr is totally wrong. I am a census enumerator and our instructions are very clear.You do not enter a private residence unless invited and a citizen is not required to answer any questions. The main task of the census is to count people not invade someones privacy. Any statements contrary to this are outright lies.

jay

May 28th, 2010
8:24 am

I am working on the Census currently. There is no way I am entering someones residence without an invitation from the occupant. Even then I am only going in as far as necessary to complete the interview.

All I ask from an apartment owner is access to the common hallway.

If anybody is demanding access to your home call the Police.

concerned mom

May 28th, 2010
8:24 am

I got a call from the census one night at 9. I was told even though I filled out the form and sent it back, they needed to verify how many people lived in my house as if I did not know and needed help figuring it out. I said I do not have the ten minutes of my time that would be required to answer questions. The next afternoon I got a call from the census and was told they would keep calling me until I answered. I told them I knew how many people were in my home and did not need to be asked. She stated that the census bureau would keep calling until I answered. I put her on speaker phone so my husband could hear. She asked me questions for ten minutes – did anyone live in a mental institution or was incarcerated during the last year etc. They were all variations of how many live in my house as if she could trick me into answering differently.
I never thought that the federal government would threaten law abiding people with a threat that they would harass me until I answered questions that I had already answered. We complained to our senators and have not received a response yet.

John W

May 28th, 2010
8:25 am

Fox Newsers – hehe – NOT a conservative – talk about being a sheep – you still stuck in the left-right paradigm?? Sucks to be you……

(by the way not threats of violence you troll)

DJ

May 28th, 2010
8:25 am

doesn’t matter if you fill out the form, send it in a week before the date recommended, they come by anyway!

then they say they lost the form.

doesn’t matter, they’ll make up the numbers anyway, they don’t want to lose any seats in Congress or any Federal Money!

Then they’ll audit more people in the Prvate Sector, trying to make a living, and levy additional taxes!

Yvonne

May 28th, 2010
8:27 am

I am a census worker and I DO NOT even WANT to enter someone’s abode. I am afraid of what will happen to me. It is people like you Bob that make it difficult for us to do our jobs. Most of us are honest retired people or housewives just trying to make a little extra money to help out in an economy that no longer supports us.

Jean

May 28th, 2010
8:28 am

Get a grip . . . it is down to being a 1 page questionnaire. Very few questions-less than in the past.
How would like the government to “guess” how to spend the tax dollars in your community!!

JON

May 28th, 2010
8:29 am

I ran off the census taker because he said I did not fill out the form correctly. I said really, because under the Constitution, you only need to know how many people live here, and I gave my answer. He tried argueing, so I handed him a pocket size Constitution and asked him to show me where it states otherwise, he through it at me and left. They don’t get it, all you are required to do by the Constitution is give a number, the rest is too much information. Just count, don’t worry about ones color, or the other illegit questions they ask, just give the count if is 2 then say 2 and shut the door, or pull out your gun, they will leave and come back with the cops.

TheChairman

May 28th, 2010
8:29 am

Most of these census workers are temporary hires who just needed the extra money in this economy. Yes, there are some bad apples (just like at TSA)… but most just want to work.

In fact, even the enumerators are getting the run-around from the Census Bureau bureaucrats.

My partner would never think of entering an unoccupied apartment; she merely asks the landlord if the unit is occupied and how many.

The little publcized fact is, if you don’t want to answer any of the other questions then politely decline… the enurmerator will simply enter ‘N/A’ and move on to the next question.

They’ve hired 3 times as many people as are needed, my partner only gets 10 hours a week.

Again, it is OBAMA and Democraps who are exploiting our census to pad employment numbers.

Get A. Grip

May 28th, 2010
8:30 am

Temporary Census Employee A: They told me I can never enter a resident’s home!
Temporary Census Employee B: They told me I can only enter if invited!

Maybe — just maybe — you should look at the law instead of just spouting off based on what some pencil pushing lackey told you you could or could not do during your orientation.

Dave

May 28th, 2010
8:31 am

If one happens to be a nudist, it might cause a bit of discomfort on the part of a census taker demanding entry….

Bob LeBlah

May 28th, 2010
8:31 am

Oh you all mean Mr. Barr is blatantly trying to mislead, similar to the way the media and libs have mislead about the Arizona illegal immigration bill?

Crazy Conservatives

May 28th, 2010
8:31 am

I would find it hilarious if it were not so sad that people find the Census so intrusive. These folks think this is a joke because they do not have the intelligence to appreciate the level of planning this information will supply for the next ten years. US and State governments rely on this information to determine redistricting (google it if you don’t know what it means) and educational facilities to name just two of many. So go ahead, laugh at this “intrusive” survey and fill in false answers, just don’t complain when the government fails to add a class or school or reforms your district in accordance with your responses.

I have never seen so much disrespect for the office of the Presidency or so many people angry at our government for reasons they don’t know and/or based on false information. Only three things in life are certain, death, taxes, and Sarah Palin’s low intelligence level.

Danielle

May 28th, 2010
8:32 am

The intrusiveness comes when they call you even though you filled out the form and sent it on time. They are asking me if I am quite certain that none of my home’s residents were in a nursing home or in jail. They keep asking if anyone else lives here, yes/no questions and they want every one answered. Any infants? Any foster kids? Any step-children? Any this? Any that? And when I try to tell them that the people on my form all live here and only here and nobody else lives here, they say I have to answer yes/no to every stupid scripted question or I’m not complying. Even though I sent it in!

Annie

May 28th, 2010
8:32 am

The census worker that came by my house actually misrepresented herself to my 13 year old son, saying that she was my friend, thereby making my son think it was OK to give her my home phone number! Yep, right here in America, the land of the free. Where government officials may lie, cheat and steal to obtain their information. And then we were tricked into thinking we had to disclose more information than just a head count. Later finding out that all we were required by law to disclose was the amount of persons residing in the home on April 1st. I think it’s a big April Fools joke myself. When you speak of allocating funds to states: let me tell you, they are not allocating funds: they are allocating DEBT since we are 13 trillion dollars in debt to date! wake up!

Gang Stalking World

May 28th, 2010
8:33 am

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Jean

May 28th, 2010
8:35 am

Concerned Mom, If you are getting phone calls at that time of night, report it to authorities. Probably a scam-fraud. Ask them to come by during the daytime and show crediticals. Remember, great time for scams. I would never answer questions that I am uncomfortable with whom I am talking to.

QueenBey

May 28th, 2010
8:35 am

I know people who SENT their Census papers in, and they came to their house without identifying themselves and so they didn’t open the door, and the worker started trying to look through windows and jiggle door handles. The next day he came back, the homeowner cracked the door to basically tell him to go away and thats when he identified himself at Census and started asking all of the questions. I thought they only needed a number, but they need your name, age, income, whether or not you are the homeowner, birthday,

Joe

May 28th, 2010
8:36 am

you’re only “free” in this country if your a QUEER, an ILLEGAL HISPANIC ALIEN, or run a fake “advocacy group” and are funded by the government… If you’re a TAXPAYER or a HARD WORKING CITIZEN, you exist to be abused, raped, and stripped of your liberties.

Spongegirl Circleskirt

May 28th, 2010
8:36 am

You are a fear monger and a liar. Shame on you. You give no proof whatsoever on these claims. Go kill yourself now and save us from your stupidity.

Logical1

May 28th, 2010
8:37 am

So comforting to know since recently we have leaned that some of obamas “census takers” are aparently felons. I’m not happy thinking that one of these government criminals can demeand entry to my home while I’m not there. But what do you expect from an administration that is composed of criminals, liars and cheats. Remember, remember, vote out these criminals on the 2nd of November.

Paul

May 28th, 2010
8:37 am

Does the government provide moving vans for the census workers too? Wouldn’t that just be another facet of Obama’s wealth redistribution?

Annie

May 28th, 2010
8:37 am

Crazy Conservative: you are the one with the low intelligence level. You think the President is so great? Well, just wait a minute because he isn’t done making our country a laughing stock. Schools? Programs? Are you serious? If one was intelligent, you would stop thinking the government owes you something and pay for it yourself. If you want government monies: you will get government CONTROL. Take their money, their programs, etc. And explain to your children and grandchildren why they are now slaves to debt; debt created by your parents whom had their hand out for government welfare.

Marc M

May 28th, 2010
8:38 am

To the census workers in this article.

You state that you weren’t trained or told to do this and that may be true but the point of this article is that they COULD do this.

You however showed no proof that what Bob has stated actually isn’t true, most likely because it is.

The census has become nothing more than a political tool for the left to redefine voting districts to their advantage and you KNOW IT.

George

May 28th, 2010
8:39 am

I want to see them try to enter my home. I dare them to. Thats all I have to say about that.

An American Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
8:39 am

Barr, you are a buffoon. The next time you write about the US Census, please do some, just a little, homework. You might just find that the questions that are asked are unintrusive and the answers are held in confidentiality for 72 years. You should be fired!

Monica

May 28th, 2010
8:40 am

Scary! Remember when we had rights and it was OK to say no? Those were the good ole days!

John W

May 28th, 2010
8:40 am

Fox Newsers – What? Thou hast no retort? Let me see you nuzzle your ba-ba…..hehe

Carl

May 28th, 2010
8:40 am

Mark Levin calls it Soft Tyranny and I agree. Each day our freedoms being taken by an over zealous federal government. The Progressive in the Oval Office and many others in Congress are “Fundamentally Changing America” and will not stop.

todd

May 28th, 2010
8:40 am

A government worker would never steal anything. All government employees are angels.

BREEEE

May 28th, 2010
8:41 am

Why hasn’t Barr retracted this article yet? He’s been corrected by numerous census employees. The message of this article is a LIE, plain and simple. This is not the result of confusion, but DECEIT. It makes me sick reading all the gullable, paranoid comments by people who simply assume that Barr is telling the truth here (many of them contain anecdotes regarding their harrassment of their neighbor enumerators — what thugs! If you pull a gun on your neighbor doing his job HE has the right to shoot YOU). And, of course, I’m a lying “liberal” if I point all this out. I’m genuinely disgusted by the ignorance.

AGNOSTIC CONSERVATIVE

May 28th, 2010
8:41 am

STAY OUT OF MY LIFE AND STAY OUT OF MY WALLET!
Census has been doing the same thing forever and the conspiracy theories have circulated for the same period.
My race? 5TH GENERATION AMERICAN…Color? Red White & Blue

Fed Up!

May 28th, 2010
8:42 am

Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” is being followed to the letter by Obama and his thugs. Wake up sheeple!

John

May 28th, 2010
8:43 am

I worked for the census this year as an enumerator. Nowhere during training did it state we could enter a person’s home. I wouldn’t want to do that either. It was just a 3 to 4 week temporary job for me that is done now.

I was probably the most chill census taker in the country. If they didn’t want to answer any questions I said fine and marked that down then left.

Rick Durkin

May 28th, 2010
8:43 am

When they force their way in they will get shot as trespassers!!!

Marc M

May 28th, 2010
8:43 am

BREEE, he should retract his article because some people claiming to be census workers have posted replies here? Are you kidding me?

Perhaps you could link us to a page or document that does describe in detail the census takers authority to disprove what he stated?

I’m waiting.

Still waiting.

Crazy Conservatives

May 28th, 2010
8:44 am

Logical1: Right. Let’s vote back in the party that stripped every American citizen of their freedom to privacy by allowing wiretapping of phones, turned over the names of deep cover agents for political points, fought for the detention of AMERICAN CITIZENS without representation, got us into the Iraq war, allowed for lax regulation which led to the collapse of both the housing and financial markets, and turned the biggest economic surplus and turned it into the biggest deficit.

Albert

May 28th, 2010
8:45 am

Bob

“May 26th, 2010
6:40 am
But Bob, according to the commercials, the country would come to a stand still if gov does not know who to pass the money around to. Isn’t that more important than civil liberties ?”

Bob, how about the government sticking to the limitations placed upon it by the Constitution and allow you to keep the fruits of your labor, so that you can decide how best to spend your money?

This is the crux of the issue. Not only does government fleece us, but they fail to limit their overreach. To fund their excesses they borrow from the Chinese. Singapore, one-eight the size of Delaware, has a GDP of $220 billion. When Hong-Kong was incorporated into China, it raised the GDP of China by 29%. East Germany and North Korea are another example of how government cannot create prosperity. Hong-Kong’s tax regime is extremely small. Still, the HK administration has no debt.

The less you tax and the smaller you keep governement, the more the people prosper. Congress has no desire to adhere to this principle. The Clintons and Bushes love to redistribute your wealth and run up debt. GO GREEN. RECYCLE CONGRESS.

Cold Warrior R390

May 28th, 2010
8:45 am

I still haven’t figured out any valid reason why the census would need to know the names of residents. If you’re simply counting people, the names are unimportant.

John W

May 28th, 2010
8:46 am

Monica – I think it has more to do with the fact that most people have been taught that it is somehow ‘not right’ to exercise your rights.

I always tell my sons that they will only have to stand up to a bully once…because they don’t have the courage of conviction to withstand someone who won’t be bullied.

Until “We the people” start exercising our rights, others will continue to try and trample on them.

Jon

May 28th, 2010
8:48 am

Census workers have the right to enter my home, and according to local law I have the right to shoot them if they should forget to announce who they are. Once again the Fed abuses power without thinking the issue all the way through. Considering that I have already sent back THREE of their racist forms (How many residents are hispanic? What about Germans , Irish, Italians, Asians, and Native Americans?) I guess they are small enough voting blocks not to matter to the racists running the program.) forms, and the last time I got multiple forms some ding-a-ling census bureau, temp employee, showed up at my door demanding I answer question, even after I explained that I had already completed three of the mailed forms. I have to wonder, not only about the competence of the temp employees, but the allegedly competent Federal Bureaucrat that sent them out in the first place.

william sadler

May 28th, 2010
8:48 am

from what I have seen of these census workers, I dont think many know how to open a door or count..Many were employed in professions where all they needed to know was to ask,,”Do you want fries with that order”, and that was to hard for them,,,,reminds me of the morons at the airports sniffing around in peoples shoes,,, dem o rats and leftists love these people, makes them feel superior,,,I come home and find a stranger in my home,,,his counting days will be over,,,,,lol

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May 28th, 2010
8:49 am

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Crazy Conservatives

May 28th, 2010
8:49 am

Marc M: Here you go, now be quiet. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

How can the same people who jumped down the throats of others when they criticized Arizona’s Immigration Law without reading it believe one biased and misleading fictional writer’s interpretation of the law is correct without actually reading the law? Double standard much?

ThatGuy

May 28th, 2010
8:49 am

seriously – I still am confused about how the questions are “increasingly intrusive.” Don’t we learn about the census in middle school civics? What is everyone so afraid of?

Manny

May 28th, 2010
8:51 am

Yep, they’re evil! Don’t respond because they want to intrude into your lives! They are really a secret army bound by Obama to find ways in which to enslave the free people with federal funds and services.

So run away! Run Away! Ugh!

Draken

May 28th, 2010
8:52 am

Since at least 1999 concerning an incident involving Ft. Hood, Bob Barr has been shooting his mouth off without citing any references of any kind.

Dan in Tennessee

May 28th, 2010
8:52 am

Mr. Bob, This is the first time I have read your articles. From what I can see, this will be the last. I am a conservative and if you are a conservative you are an idiot and should not be able to print such lies. If you are a liberal you are an idiot and should not be able to print such lies either. We do not need people like you. STOP IT!

Standar Irish Bum

May 28th, 2010
8:52 am

He is correct. If you are a true conservative, you should refuse to fill out or cooperate with the census. Don’t let Fartbama’s new Gestapo get your vital info and later on use it to incarcerate you and your family for being REAL God fearing AMERICANS! That is just what Obongo’s hero, Hitler did to find out the info on all the Jews in Germany. Trust in God and guns, not in that Kenyan thug.

Robert Hinman

May 28th, 2010
8:54 am

If it were not of such an obtrusive invasion of privacy it would be at best a joke. China is becoming more of what we used to be while we are becoming more communist and oppressive. maybe we will meet in the middle somewhere after our politicians finish destroying the greatest country ever established.

Jon

May 28th, 2010
8:54 am

Crazy Conservatives,

Everything you said about the Repubs is true, but you left out that the Dems continued all of the Repubs inintrusiveness and actually increased it, they continue the forieng wars and have increased the Repubs 1.5 trillion deficit to 13 trillion, one hell of an improvement huh?

Ron Paul Fan

May 28th, 2010
8:55 am

The ‘Make My Day’ law says they won’t.

BarryS

May 28th, 2010
8:56 am

Ennummerators are trained NOT to enter people’s houses even if asked. Quite frankly, entering a house without the occupant is useless since it doesn’t add to the census form which requires a HUMAN to answer the questios. Just a stupid statement about a rule to allow ennumerators into gated communities and locked apartment buildngs.
And you religious freaks, remember that Joseph and Mary were put to much more trouble for their census and didn’t complain.

ariel

May 28th, 2010
8:57 am

Oooh, that is really scary. Consider the amount of fraud and other violent crimes that could result from this. I don’t want ANYONE snooping around my home or having access where they could potentially assess good points of entries and what is convenient to steal. This is really sick.

T Money

May 28th, 2010
8:59 am

My old landlord did not re-program the door entry buzzer to my apartment when I moved out. This month I oddly started getting “Door Bell” phone calls. Since I no longer live in the building, I didn’t answer my phone to admit them access.

They got pushier. Not only was it every day they stopped by, they started stopping by in the mornings and evenings, and somehow got ahold of my cell number. When I responded to the cell phone call, I told them I no longer resided there, they still kept buzzing me every single day until I requested to speak with a supervisor and have them talk to my landlord.

They are so ass-backwards.

Heseez

May 28th, 2010
8:59 am

I will NOT let them into my house. If I find them there they will be forceably removed and injured in the process.

Marc M

May 28th, 2010
8:59 am

The law:
Sec. 223. Refusal, by owners, proprietors, etc., to assist
census employees

Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or
agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house,
tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when
requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the
Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the
instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of
such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to
any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or
agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with
respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5
of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such
chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which
censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when
relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and
correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in
such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.

This can be interpreted in many ways and most likely its intent is not what Barr stated however as it is written, it certainly could also allow what Barr has stated, although most likely it would not be it is still written this way.

Mark

May 28th, 2010
8:59 am

A census worker trying to locate me must have googled me. He called another one of family member’s houses looking for me, and then called my place of work? Maybe he called other places as well; these are the only two that informed me. I think this is crossing the line as well?

Craig Vale

May 28th, 2010
9:00 am

Will someone please bar Barr from opening his pie hole? Yet another paranoid spewer of lies and disinformation. These nuts know of no boundaries that they will not cross.The constitution REQUIRES a census and no one has ever screamed anywhere near this loudly before. Most of the complainers don’t even believe this crap themselves but like many issues this past year, they all jump on board for the cry ride.
I believe most of this stuff comes from the paranoia surrounding the fact the the President is black and a lot of folks want none of that! Hence the cry to ” Take our Country Back ”
Sorry assed losers , the lot of them. If the don’t like democracy ( Elections) let them go live elsewhere. How about Mexico?

fishergirlusmc

May 28th, 2010
9:01 am

i’m a gun-owner, if anyone enters my home, they do so at their own peril!!! lock and load

The Truth Sucks

May 28th, 2010
9:02 am

I love how people like Mr. Barr here are using liberal interpretations of the census laws to push their stories from mediocre tinfoil-wearing reports to something much more noble and even fark-worthy. His story shows no specific articles, data, or even links to where this has happened already.

I went ahead and actually did all of Mr. Barr’s legwork (you know, the work he was supposed to do before writing) and found a few different copies of the Census Enumeration Manual.
In fact, here is one released in 2009 that was the pretext for the current official job guide:
http://www.ofm.wa.gov/pop/annex/forms/enumerator.pdf

Now I do see mention that participation in the 2010 census is mandatory, but missing are the parts where census workers are REQUIRED or that they should demand entry into people’s homes, nor does it say that census workers are to DEMAND phone numbers from landlords or apartment managers.

In fact the manual specifically states that a census worker “may only enter into a home when invited”. Hmm that’s a very different take that what Mr. Barr here wrote. The manual goes on to state that information cannot be guess or supposed, and MUST be collected via household member or proxy. So that means even if the were allowed to enter your home they couldn’t use anything they find in the person’s home to obtain the data needed, as only a live human being (that is not the census worker) is allowed to provide data.

And for those of you that are still complaining that the census is mandatory, you forget that the first Constitutionally required census was done in 1790, when American’s who were still sympathetic to Britain were housing British soldiers. And oh yeah, it was enforced again in the late 1800’s when people were still trying to keep SLAVES after the 13th amendment was enacted.

But still, it’s such a hassle right? I mean 10 questions that take less than 10 minutes??? Why should I do the census, it doesn’t nothing for me. I would rather go to the park for a walk, or shoot hoops at the local rec center, or visit my sick friend in the hospital, or attend the little play my child is doing at school, or send some cookies to my friend in prison.

Even with the quiff and Ralph Lauren frames, Bob Barr’s “blog” here sounds more like a rant from an angry old man who is fealfull the government is going to get him and just wants those DAMN KIDS OFF HIS LAWN!

Next time, I suggest you use this new invention in the field of reporting called “facts”.

D

May 28th, 2010
9:03 am

The Census requires you to answer HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THE RESIDENCE!
YOU DO NOT BY LAW HAVE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE FORM!

Helen

May 28th, 2010
9:03 am

Its a shocker how simply filling out the form could eliminate the need for any census worker to visit in the first place. Instead people complain, moan, and everything in between… and would rather use tax dollars to pay millions of census workers to struggle to gain access to their homes and fill out a form that takes 5 minutes for them.

I’m sick of hearing people bashing the census and its employees. Especially when so many are ignorant of the true purpose behind the statistical data that is collected. Its for YOUR own good, but that it apparently difficult for some to understand.

Maryland Patriot

May 28th, 2010
9:03 am

To those who keep insisting that the data is kept confidential for 72 years, please explain the unconstitutional use of that data in relation to the Japanese internment during WW2. The reason they were so easily rounded up was because the census had the “unintrusive” questions about race back then too.

All the USG had to do was consult the “confidential” census records and voila, a list of all citizens and residents of Japanese ancestry. Yes, you read that right. U.S. citizens were included in the internment camps. Look it up. It really happened.

Anyone supposing this could never happen again is fooling themselves. The USG is far more intrusive now than it was in the 1940’s. So, still think giving out your personal descriptive details is so “unintrusive”? I surely do not. They got the form back with my enuration and “human” in the racial questions. Plus a citation of some court cases to support my position.

As to the details of this article, I would expect there is some hyperbole in it. A bit like all the anthropogenic Global Warming hysteria that was so “scientific” that the data had to be “enhanced” by its creators.

Manny

May 28th, 2010
9:04 am

Oh, and let me say this: Yes, a census taker can legally enter your apartment or hotel room. This is true. Not your house or condominum, but your apartment or hotel room.

So the census taker can go in. With consent. And you know who else? The maintenance man. The apartment manager. The apartment owner.

And think: Why would some census worker want to go into your place without you being there? Grow some nuance!

Commodore Biggles

May 28th, 2010
9:05 am

Umm, NO.

How much research did you do for this “article?” As a current census employee I can tell you that no, WE DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO ENTER A HOUSE. We do however have authority to cross your lawn and knock on your door. We also have authority to enter an APARTMENT COMPLEX, not individual apartments.

Thanks for the fearmongering, idiot. You’ve just made my job that much harder.

Mark Stephens

May 28th, 2010
9:11 am

In Colorado we have the make my day law. I wonder if the Census workers will change this rule after a few of them are legally killed as intruders???

CJ Cox

May 28th, 2010
9:12 am

Basic Principles-
Support true Conservatives, they will uphold the Constitution which made this a Nation.
Get Active. Send some money and lend your labor for these Conservatives’ campainges.
Contact Everyone and talk to them about their personal freedom and how losing it will make worse the issues they are personnaly concerned with.
VOTE OUT any Leftist and any Republican who collaborates with the Left.

Texas Bob

May 28th, 2010
9:13 am

I went to my local library yesterday and several census workers were having a meeting outside the library. A couple of them were strange looking. If either of them rang my doorbell I would not let them in my house.

Sam

May 28th, 2010
9:13 am

Total BS, Bob. I worked for the 2000 Census and am now working for the 2010 Census. Door to door workers have NOT been told they have that right. Not in the ten years I’ve worked for them. I went through all the training sessions and the only thing that’s ever been suggested along these lines is to show respect for people’s privacy – and NOT to barge into their homes and make demands. In fact, for door to door types, if they run into ANY resistence, they are trained to just kick the problem up the ladder. Your article is toally false. Where’s your source, backup or proof, Bob.

Tom M

May 28th, 2010
9:14 am

I have worked as a crew leader for the Census since Feb 2009. We are never instucted to enter peoples homes or Apts. We hand out Confidentially Notices explaining our role and the privacy of the information we collect. We are trained to never threaten with fines or penalities. If we have a difficult interview their are forms to docment it and it’s passed up the chain. I don’t know why Mr Barr is passing out this kind of nonsense.

Gerard

May 28th, 2010
9:17 am

No one is getting fined by the Census and no Census workers are entering into peoples homes. This is a silly story. Furthermore, anyone that suggests the Census Questionnaires have become increasingly intrusive must be making the statement in the absence of any investigation since the Census Questionnaires have become increasingly benign and un-intrusive. No questions about income, Social Security, citizenship etc etc. We can’t be taken seriously as Libertarians if we continue to subscribe to uninformed paranoid rhetoric with no basis in reality. The census has been happening since 1789 and is one of the few things that the federal government does that it actually has a constitutional mandate to do.

Mustafa Awad

May 28th, 2010
9:17 am

Folks, I have worked as an administrative law attorney for the federal government, the following synopsis accurately sums up the intent of this intrusive law.

BTW, all the census workers posting here really need to THINK about what they’re saying and writing. We citizens don’t care what you learn in your training or in your manuals, we care about the government using every means possible to spy, snoop and attack the citizenry. Plus, you have a crappy job, are a government stooge and just away for Biraq to falsely boost his unemployment “figures” – do this republic a favor, shut up and quit.

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the following binding statute.

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

It’s called reading comprehension and wisdom sheeple.. not so good these days…

Gerard

May 28th, 2010
9:21 am

and thanks for making a lot of peoples summer job that much more difficult

Ryan P

May 28th, 2010
9:21 am

I don’t answer the door then they come by or answer the mail in questionaires. I used to open the door and stare at them blankly and wait about half a minute to answer their questions, but it’s too much work and I think the new census workers would just call the police or something if you did that.

Sam

May 28th, 2010
9:21 am

T MONEY Says: “My old landlord did not re-program the door entry buzzer to my apartment when I moved out. This month I oddly started getting “Door Bell” phone calls. Since I no longer live in the building, I didn’t answer my phone to admit them access. They got pushier. Not only was it every day they stopped by, they started stopping by in the mornings and evenings, and somehow got ahold of my cell number. When I responded to the cell phone call, I told them I no longer resided there, they still kept buzzing me every single day until I requested to speak with a supervisor and have them talk to my landlord. They are so ass-backwards.

THEY’RE ass-backwards? Try you and your landlord, instead. The Census starts by tracking residences, because you and your landlord couldn’t be bothered to take care of the problem, you wasted taxpayer money for others to try to figure it out. Pushy? That’s their job, moron. Try to look at the world through the eyes of others instead of your own, selfish, one way peepers, for a change.

LindaB

May 28th, 2010
9:22 am

Bob Barr is an idiot Libertarian going to far this time. There is NO US code that allows this it is illegal and he knows it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder he can’t win an election he doesn’t know the law!

Richard Spokesman

May 28th, 2010
9:22 am

When the Japanese-Americans were rounded up and place in interment camps, the president (of course he was a Demoncrat) used the census data from 1940 to lock them up. I fear that Obam-bob-a-loo-bop is going to use this census’ data to do the same to the Real Americans that he hates so much. Don’t trust these Acorn-in-a-sheep’s skin census workers. Go ahead and make sure you are stocked up on food, ammo and guns. Once the Obamanation’s taxes have finished taxing all of us hard working conservatives into the poor-house, we won’t be able to afford them then. Show that Socialist fascist that we won’t be intimidated by his Acorn/census workers. Refuse to fill out the form.

Scott

May 28th, 2010
9:22 am

So, if you actually read the statute, it does not grant census workers the right to enter into your apartment or house. It states “to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom” which to laymen means the landlord must permit the representative ingress to and egress from the home or rather the landlord cannot stop the worker from walking onto … See Morethe property and knocking on the door, that’s all. It does not permit the landlord, government worker or anyone else to actually enter a dwelling. I’m a real estate attorney, it’s common language in leases and statutes, and if you don’t believe me, look up the words egress and ingress in a law dictionary. But seriously, if you hysterical birther types don’t want to be counted by the census, more power to you. It just means that more deserving parts of the country will get more federal money.

Sam

May 28th, 2010
9:24 am

RYAN SAID “I don’t answer the door then they come by or answer the mail in questionaires. I used to open the door and stare at them blankly and wait about half a minute to answer their questions, but it’s too much work and I think the new census workers would just call the police or something if you did that.”

Wow… you’re a real radica, right onl Ryan. Way to ’stick it to the man.’ In reality, you’re just wasting everybody’s time and money (including your own, if you’re a taxpayer), but… if it makes you feel better to stare blankly for half a minute – go for it. You really know how to handle the situation like a real man.

Gerard

May 28th, 2010
9:25 am

Mustafa you can’t just write things as though they are fact and consider the matter settled. You are making things up if you can’t provide evidence. Show me one case where this has legally happened. No one has been fined, no one has had there sandwiches searched. And what exactly is the government spying for? It’s narcissistic to think that the government wants to spy on you, they even make pills for that.

The Reveren

May 28th, 2010
9:25 am

This article is in error. I work for the census bureau and the works do not have the right to enter your house, apartment, trailer, or what you call home. If they work for the census they will not ask to enter you home for any reason. These articles are being written without checking the facts. Wait a minute, new agencies making up news stories? Like that has never happen.

Bill

May 28th, 2010
9:25 am

And I have the right to shoot any intruder in my house!

James Monroe

May 28th, 2010
9:27 am

Empty wagons rattle the loudest!

I worked as a cesnus enumerator and an enumerator recruiter. These people make so much noise, me think thou doth protest to much! People either have something to hide or not. Send in the survey, get counted and if you happen to be of a nature that you might have children….don’t you want federal dollars sent to build classrooms for your future children??????? Get real people!

Sam

May 28th, 2010
9:27 am

DICK SPOKESMAN Says: “When the Japanese-Americans were rounded up and place in interment camps, the president (of course he was a Demoncrat) used the census data from 1940 to lock them up. I fear that Obam-bob-a-loo-bop is going to use this census’ data to do the same to the Real Americans that he hates so much. Don’t trust these Acorn-in-a-sheep’s skin census workers. Go ahead and make sure you are stocked up on food, ammo and guns. Once the Obamanation’s taxes have finished taxing all of us hard working conservatives into the poor-house, we won’t be able to afford them then. Show that Socialist fascist that we won’t be intimidated by his Acorn/census workers. Refuse to fill out the form.”

You’re perfectly named Dick. In 2 or 6 years, when Obama eventually leaves office, and your world is no different (except for all the guns, ammo and cluelessness you’ve acquired) are you going to look back and realize how you’ve been duped by racists and Dem haters? Or are you going to think your actions helped save America? I suspect the latter, but the truth is in the former.

Jon

May 28th, 2010
9:28 am

The Truth Sucks,

Your nievte is amusing, trying to buld a case that the census is valuable is silly,. You cite that people would rather “walk in the park or shoot hoops at the community center, a veiled quip, at things that may be lost if the census were not completed, but I don’t walk in a park, I walked down the streets and talk to my neighbors, I do not shoot hoops at a community center, I do it in the back yard of my suburban home. So in these cases that you cite, the census does NOTHING for me.

You invoke the scenes of slavery to make your point but you fail, since slavery is no longer with us in the sense you cite.

But before you attempt to rebut my points, I have no problem filling out a form even, one so blatantly racist as the census (does it matter how many hispanics live or do not live in my home? NO it does not,) What I have a problem with is the incompetence of the census bureau. I get taxed to pay these incompetent boobs to mail out redundant forms and then show up at my home interrupting my activities to answer question which I already answered.

The next time I get a census form I may me motivated to follow the example of Christopher Walken.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4165/saturday-night-live-census-taker

The Reveren

May 28th, 2010
9:29 am

Just to reply about Richard Spokesman comment. I have heard about this from one other person. All I can tell you is now the census has title 13 which prohibits any other agency from getting the information on an individual. We do not share the information with the FBI, CIA, or any other government agency other than statistical data. If the President wants data on an individual he can not get it. The FBI has gone to the Supreme Court to get data from the Census and the Court has always sided with the Census bureau because of the title 13 protection.

Max

May 28th, 2010
9:32 am

Bob: What money? The government, Obama himself has said there is no more money. So, sorry if I missed your sarcasm, If not you need to re-evaluate your thoughts on the issue. The only people getting money (real money lol) are the international banks. As well as certian Federarlly owned financial institutions. But, back to the point, I think the majority of Americans would prefer to keep their remaining civil liberties over the promise of federal money that exists only in fiction.

Ryan P

May 28th, 2010
9:32 am

Census workers aren’t that powerful. They are lower than meter maids. If you open the door and it’s a census person, just calmly don’t react to anything they say. Just stand there. They won’t know what to do. It’s pretty entertaining, you just look at them until they leave.

SUZY BAILEY

May 28th, 2010
9:32 am

AND I WOULD SHOOT THEM IF I CAUGHT THEM COMING OUT OF MY HOUSE OR EVEN BARGING IN! I WOULD GO TO PRISON FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE BECAUSE I WOULD NOT CARE!!!!!!!! NO ONE IS GOING TO COME INTO MY HOME LIKE THAT. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

Truth In Advertising

May 28th, 2010
9:33 am

There is some confusion this year about the Census. The 2010 “Census” survey itself is pretty much equivalent to the “short form” of year’s past.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php

In a sleight-of-hand, however, the government (during the previous Democratic administration but implemented during the last Republican administration) actually expanded, and revamped what used to be the “long form” into the “American Community Survey”.

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/index.html

Although this form is mailed on a continuing basis to different households every two years, to make matters intentionally more confusing, it is also being sent to certain households this year along with the Census. So while claims we’ve heard about the “Census” not being as intrusive as years past, those claims are intellectually dishonest because in essence the long form has just been renamed, expanded, and sent out more often.

The elitist in this country play this kind of game because they know a lot of people on the left and the right get their “facts” from unreliable sources who confirm their respective prejudices, and aren’t informed well enough to actually have the facts to know the truth and respond appropriately.

Sam

May 28th, 2010
9:34 am

COLD WARRIOR Said “I still haven’t figured out any valid reason why the census would need to know the names of residents. If you’re simply counting people, the names are unimportant.”

Think past your nose, numbnuts. How do you know if you’ve counted the same person once, twice or two hundred times without names? Jeez. My guess is you “still haven’t figured out” ANYTHING.

mack

May 28th, 2010
9:34 am

thats just wrong. btw guys, check out this sweet political site http://www.thepartisandialogues.com

Ryan P

May 28th, 2010
9:34 am

Another easy thing to do is just lie on all the answers. Remember, if you answer the census correctly you are helping the federal government. The more people they count the more federal money and tax dollars will be demanded. If you have 5 people in your house, say 1! Don’t claim more than you have, that just increases the theft.

Robnsn

May 28th, 2010
9:35 am

Has anyone seen the US Census Bureau – The American Community Survey? Now that’s intrusive!
Asking for number of cars, value of home, amount of 1st and 2nd mortgage payments, how much income by w-2, interest rent and so forth……not range of income but amount. Want’s to know what time you go to work etc. Contains everything in order to steal your id except your SSN, but also is a great way to “case” your house for a robbery.

Sam

May 28th, 2010
9:36 am

Suzy Says: “AND I WOULD SHOOT THEM IF I CAUGHT THEM COMING OUT OF MY HOUSE OR EVEN BARGING IN! I WOULD GO TO PRISON FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE BECAUSE I WOULD NOT CARE!!!!!!!! NO ONE IS GOING TO COME INTO MY HOME LIKE THAT. PERIOD. END OF STORY.”

Calm down Suzy, the story is false. They can’t enter your home, you don’t have to kill anybody and you especially don’t need CAPS. Try decaf.

Jon

May 28th, 2010
9:37 am

LindaB
No wonder he can’t win an election he doesn’t know the law!

The majority of the those currently in congress don’t know the law, but it never stopped them from winning elections.

ColtAuto45

May 28th, 2010
9:40 am

One of the questions asked about the actions of a census worker in your home while you are not there is what would they be doing if their only reason was to count people. That is not all the information they want to gather. They are also asking about you plumbing. How many bathtubs / showers do you have? Do you have toilets? How about a bidet? Do you use gas or electricity to cook with? How many bedrooms do you have and are they in use? Are the people living there married or not? Are you or anyone in the home a veteran? And what I think is the BIG one … Are you a gun owner? Do you want this type of questioning? Most of this information they can get while searching your apartment or rented home. We once had people arrested for this. If we came home and caught them in our homes doing this search without a cop and a warrant, we could shoot them. So much for safety and the right to privacy in your home.

Philip Saenz

May 28th, 2010
9:40 am

The government is incompetent when it really matters. Snooping by the government is something else. The government is competent when it interferes with people’s lives.

Billy Bob

May 28th, 2010
9:41 am

For those of you who may or may not be aware, Germany used census information in a way that was LESS than honorable. Try reading for a change.

Gary Barnett stated in an article entitled “The Census And History” this:

“The most heinous use of the census process was that of the Nazi Census System. The Hitler regime, according to Gotz Aly and Karl Heinz Roth in their book The Nazi Census, developed the techniques the Nazis employed to track, gather information, and control populations. This was the initiation of the modern system of citizen registration, and was the pioneering impetus for both the concepts and the processes of modern statistics-gathering about populations. Counts began with the collection of data concerning Germans, but ended with the specific collection of information about Jews and other minorities. The results, as everyone now knows, were devastating! One has to wonder; does this knowledge of past census fact force one to question why one of the main functions of our own decennial census is to verify race and ethnicity?

Try reading a chapter from the book “The Nazi Census” by Götz Aly and Karl Heinz Roth. Those who fail to remember history are doomed themselves to repeat it. Hitler was an elected official. All we need is some wanna be “Mr Fix It.” who wants to “solve all our problem” who is really a mass murdering despot at heart and we could suffer the same type of fate.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CB4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.temple.edu%2Ftempress%2Fchapters_1400%2F1625_ch1.pdf&rct=j&q=The+Nazi+Census&ei=itT_S7T3G4aINoHT5Ds&usg=AFQjCNHaHjsV1eVGnzGvWsL3KxTIQONgdg

bill

May 28th, 2010
9:44 am

well the census worker is going to be counting how many bullets i put in them

Jason

May 28th, 2010
9:45 am

By in far this is the creepiest thing I’ve read about the Census. If you live in an apartment, please in that silly form.

concerned mom

May 28th, 2010
9:47 am

The worker called from a legitimate number and stated all of the codes in the law . I checked out the number and that is why I answered the second caller’s questions. I was told that they would keep calling to ask these questions if I did not answer. It was not a fake it was a form of government harassment.

lonewolf

May 28th, 2010
9:48 am

Maybe they should rethink this little tactic. The American people are already ticked off, and a lot have become heavily armed recently. Invading government scum and a ticked off, armed citizenry don’t mix.

sickandtired

May 28th, 2010
9:49 am

It seems that even the posts from those claiming they are/were census workers is conflicting….you have to laugh at the inept for they do not know any better and believe this hopey changey thing is good for them.

misinformation # 8

May 28th, 2010
9:49 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Get Real, Barr

May 28th, 2010
9:50 am

Hello, Yellow Journalism!

You should be ashamed of your misleading headline all the way down to your lowliest fear-inducing sentence.

No Census worker has the right to ENTER your apartment, just your apartment building to knock on your door…during daylight hours. You have the right not to answer if you are so paranoid.

The US Census has been done every ten years…CONSISTENTLY SINCE 1790…and is written into the US Constitution to count the people and determine Federal Representation…what could be more American than that?

Then again, your fear-mongering is what the New America is all about. Thanks for being part of the problem, Barr!

William Morgan -American Hero

May 28th, 2010
9:51 am

Bob Barr you are a LYING SCUMBAG!!
The federal govt. has NO jurisdiction within the States! That’s what the federal Constitution says at the end of Article 1 section 8. You Bob Barr are obviously part of the propaganda campaign to get the sheeple to accept tyranny- in the guise of your sheepish responce which is basically “oh well what can we do, it’s the law”.
WRONG!! Even if a law is passed- it’s not to be enforced if it it unconstitutional- it is in fact not a law! Famous cases like Marbury v. Madison and Miranda v. Arizona have stated that fact- that if a law is passed by ANY legislature, local, State or Congress, and it violates the Constitution or individual rights in any way- then it IS NOT A LAW, and therefore we can ignore it and lawfully ‘break’ that law. You Barr are promoting sheepledom. No one has to answer anything on a census form other than how many people live in any abode- that’s it! You would have people believe that the fourth amendment etc. are out the window. You didn’t even include any lip service to resisting these unconstitutional ‘laws’ through the legislative process, nevermind civil disobedience! You are a supreme scumbucket and I spit on your mother’s grave you traitor!

Lil Bear

May 28th, 2010
9:51 am

Not only can they enter your home, they do.

Somebody came in, and ate my porridge.
Then they sat in my chair and broke it.
Then they took a nap in my bed.

I suspect that blonde census worker who’s been creeping around the neighborhood.

sickandtired

May 28th, 2010
9:51 am

btw, pleace come in…i would love to see how my new 9 responds when I aim going for a moving target

misinformation # 8

May 28th, 2010
9:52 am

This is the Classic case of “you can’t always believe what you read”!!! Think people.. good grief…

misinformation ;

May 28th, 2010
9:53 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

God Bles Sarah Palin!

May 28th, 2010
9:54 am

I’m so happy that the truth about the census is coming out. This is just more of the same from our Usurper in Chimp. He just turned around and hired all those same acron people and put them in government clothes. I refused to answer mine and they sent some mexican fairy who I sure are illeagle alien and he seemed to be casing my place lookin in my door like he was think about stealing my tv. I didn’t spend 8 years in the army for some gay acorn mexican to steal stuff from my house. We need to take back this country from the folks that hate us. Do everything you can to support Sarah Palin. I know she can save us from these welfare leaches who want to turn US into the slaves.

WilliamPenn

May 28th, 2010
9:55 am

Mr. Glock lives in my apartment, as does Mr. Colt, Mr. Smith, & Mr. Wesson. Come in without permission and you’re sure to meet them.

[...] workers can enter your apartment in your absence SOURCE via Drudge Report [...]

TD

May 28th, 2010
10:00 am

I have sent in my census form TWICE with only what is required, the number of people that live here. I have had two different census workers try and get me to talk to them, one at the building entrance and one who got into the building and was at my door. I will not talk to them or give them any more than I am legally required to. I thought all these people were against profilling…. That’s all they are after is profofiling people. Not me…

Susan Hightower

May 28th, 2010
10:00 am

No accounts of any such action has been reported anywhere. Phone numbers given by a proxy so the data can be randomly verified are for the proxy’s number. You want freedom ,ditch your cell phone .They have your identity,your location,your credit rating and all the phone calls you’ve made plus your text messages. Power to the phone companies,not this paranoid delusion

misinformation ; 1

May 28th, 2010
10:01 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

misinformation ; 1

May 28th, 2010
10:02 am

Low IQ idiots.. learn before you spout off…

misinformation ; 2

May 28th, 2010
10:02 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Manny

May 28th, 2010
10:02 am

So Billy Bob, the government shouldn’t provide a census then, right? I mean, where were you Nazi hunters during the last administration? Individual liberties were thwarted big-time back then and not one peep from you guys.

As far as the census is concerned, the United States conducted the first census in 1790. And it was conducted by federal marshalls. And they wanted it. Why? Because they wanted to ensure that their tax dollars were handled more adequately. 1790!

So just because the Nazis used certain tools to a nefarious benefit doesn’t make the tool evil. Hitler completed the Autobahn… so should we tear up our highways?

Mama Bear

May 28th, 2010
10:06 am

Somebody’s been in my house trying on my underwear when I’m not here.

If it’s not a census worker, explain that.

fwb

May 28th, 2010
10:07 am

I would like to point out that if one can read and one can comprehend, one will find that the federal government was granted only 4 punishment powers, 3 in Article 1, Section 8 and one in Article 3 Section 3. They are explicit. The Framers knew that these powers had to be granted in the Constitution nd this fact provides proof absolute that the feds have no punishment authority with respect to any other grants of power. This also means that 99.9% of all the federal punishment laws are illegal and in violation of the Constitution. Think: Something as simple as the power to punish counterfeiting had to be explicitly granted. Even the power to punish treason HAD TO BE granted. If an inherent power such as punishing treason was not part of the power of the federal government without an explicit grant, can any otehr so-called inherent power actually exist? The answer is NO!!!!!

Each person must get out of the box into which his or her education sealed that person. Quit believing what they told you and learn for yourself. Yes, the feds CAN still come get you. They are still wrong and you are right to resist. It may cost you but in order to maintain what the Framers envisioned we must all fight the battle.

Mike

May 28th, 2010
10:08 am

This goverment will do what ever they want,to anybody they want, when ever they want,The fact that americans do nothing to stop them is why. The current president is not even a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN,His father is kenyan,not an american citizen.The president doesnt even deny this.But americans have no desire to even know the constitutional requirements to be president.GROW SOME BALLS!!! READ YOUR CONSTITUTION!!!!

ColtAuto45

May 28th, 2010
10:09 am

When they asked for my name on the form, I put down Joe American. Where they asked for my phone number in case there was a problem with the census I wrote in the number for the switchboard at the White House [202-456-1414] . I did not give my race. I think I did put in my gender. I left some blank and some I answered “do not wish to answer”.

Ron Henzel

May 28th, 2010
10:09 am

Gee, I wonder how the Supremes would reconcile this with the supposed right of privacy implied in the Constitution?

Jenny

May 28th, 2010
10:10 am

Bob, stop posting lies.

Papa Bear

May 28th, 2010
10:11 am

Somebody’s been in my house drinking my Miller Lite!

Maryland Patriot

May 28th, 2010
10:11 am

Robnsn asks “Has anyone seen the US Census Bureau – The American Community Survey?”

To that I answer a loud “yes”. I got that in 2009. When I failed to give out what they consider the requisite answers, the US Census called my UNPUBLISHED (meaning only law enforcement can legally get it without my permission) phone number at least twice a day for a month and a half. Is this not harassment on top of intrusive questions?

So, when did the Census get law enforcement status? They didn’t, but apparently Verizon and the other big telecom boys are intimidated by those gentle “unintrusive” folks at the US Bureau of the Census. The threat of fines scares the crap out of a lot of companies. Or, maybe they are on the same team with a different front man.

Get a clue folks — especially all you temp workers for the Census itself. Do you really think that it’s necessary to ask if anyone needs assistance bathing? Or what time I leave for work? These ARE a part of the “Long form” ACS I got last year. It’s not on the standard form, but whether I am Hispanic, or originally from Korea or Kathmandu is not relevant to the stated purpose of the Census in the US Constitution — namely allocation of the seats in the US House of Representatives. Nothing but a number is needed. Period. And that is what they got.

The US Government is not your friend. As Ronald Reagan was known to say “the nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘We’re from the government and we’re here to help’”.

misinformation ; 4

May 28th, 2010
10:13 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

D.Kelly

May 28th, 2010
10:14 am

I love love the liberal hypocrisy here. B.O. has used “crisis and catastrophe” relentlessly to SCARE the public into letting his admin do whatever the heck they want! Its criminal. Then when we all realize there was no crisis, uh what did we just let them do? and NOW we DO have a crisis, bordering on catastrophe. Thanks Barry.
Never let a good crisis go!
If it were Bush Admin doing the census there would be a riot!! They’d say, big brother is trying to round up illegals, frightening citizens, our rights are being violated….whatever. You all make me laugh. Its a joke.

Gae

May 28th, 2010
10:16 am

We had a team of Census workers repeatedly visiting our small apartment building on a daily basis and wandering the hallways. Isn’t this trespassing? Our Arabic Landlord doesn’t live in the vicinity and we don’t have a super. Several of the apartments are vacant and clearly marked as such (lousy economy). What part of vacant apartment don’t you understand???

Jackson

May 28th, 2010
10:16 am

I’ve written my senators and representatives to pass laws outlawing false information published on the internet.. What and idiot you are BOB BARR… all in the name of money for you I’m sure.. What a jerk..

Briton

May 28th, 2010
10:17 am

“Increasingly intrusive questions”?! Seriously?? All the information asked on the census is less than can be found on my driver’s license. If your talking about the American Community Survey… for heavens sake, who cares if people know how many bathrooms you have. Don’t you want your local government to know how to plan for water and utility in the future?? How do you think the city planners get their data?? I’m a staunch republican and conservative, but tripe like this is embarassing and is why republicans have a bad name.

educated guy

May 28th, 2010
10:17 am

This is a load of crap. I am a conservative person, but have to call out an incorrect story when I see it. Bob, please read the law. It states that apartment owners cannot restrict census workers from entering the premises of the complex. This means if you are in a gated apartment community, the apartment owner has to let the census worker into the gates, NOT YOUR APARTMENTS!! Any official has to have a warrant to enter your apartment, even the census worer.

Ernie

May 28th, 2010
10:18 am

Another glaring example of the freedoms and personal liberty we used to have in this increasingly Socialist state being usurped by the government. Eventually enough people will have had enough of this and there will be armed insurrection in the streets.

Jackson

May 28th, 2010
10:18 am

Gae.. the procedures required the census taker to find an official proxy to verify the apartments were vacant on APR 1st. How can they know if it was vacant on Apr 1st? think…

Jackson

May 28th, 2010
10:18 am

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Mike Hunt

May 28th, 2010
10:18 am

I was contacted by these people (Census Workers). You can say that I was harassed by them for at least a week. I refused to answer my door. I refused to answer my phone. Oh yes, they called me every day because I wouldn’t answer the door. I will NOT comply with these scumbags..PERIOD! They can go to HELL! This is America…not the USSR! I WILL NOT COMPLY!

Tom

May 28th, 2010
10:20 am

00 Buck > Census clown.

Damean

May 28th, 2010
10:21 am

Census worker or Secret Police? Can you say KGB, Gestapo or Hitler Youth

disabledvet

May 28th, 2010
10:21 am

1st guy damn near knocked disabled woman down as he barged in, as she opened the door to see who was knocking. When I came out of the bathroom, arrogant pos was in full interrogation mode. I tried to talk w/ him, explained my resentment for the illegal alien in the WH getting everybody’s personal information, and kicked his sorry ass out. He prob’ly took paid time off to get this high paying job, which he claimed he’s been doing every year for over ten years! Next pos bitch rolls up in her Mercedes, and repeats some comments made by pos #1. This is good for about $2500 fine and up to 10 yrs. Third door to door was a young guy who actually was glad to find ‘any’ work, and was upset to hear about the other two, assuring me, that during his training, he was actually told that these things are, illegal, and if they are reported, they will be charged, and face possible fines and jail time. Good thing I didn’t come out of the bathroom with my 12 gauge, eh? Bust into my house, two of us disabled, not able to move about real quickly, having been beaten, threatened, robbed, and some pos thinks they are going to just barge in on us???? Call it my castle, call it whatever ’syndrome’ you want, but it sure as hell ain’t gonna happen again! Impeach this illegal alien, confiscate his blood money/assets and return him to Kenya or Indonesia or just drop him out of a chopper 3 miles out and let the sick, preverted pos swim to the country of his choice. Major Owens should also be dropped to keep him from the sharks…

mb

May 28th, 2010
10:24 am

There is a way to get some little benefits from the home invasion facto. These statistics are used to justify projects for the CDBG (HUD funded) grants based on race, income and the other stats they pick up with these surveys.

So if you tell them you are African American, and make under 25k p/y they have to take your word for it. You then contribute to lower property taxes and increased eligibility for HUD funded projects. The Census Tracts and Block Groups are the primary eligibility factors for funding projects like parks & rec upgrades, starting a small business in your neighborhood (yes), fixing up the local community center, leveling out a sidewalk or creating a bike trail…

Your local grass roots organization will thank you for it. Or hey – set up your own 501(c)3 and do something nice for your neighborhood. All you need is $250.00 and the right statistics.

Admittedly it’s not the most honest approach but think about it — do you really know whether you have “roots”? I mean, what if you are generationally related and don’t know it? Not all African Americans are of color nor do they all live in marginalized neighborhoods. Yet their children still deal with many of the same issues as the youth who do come from these areas.

Just say’n.

Rusty

May 28th, 2010
10:25 am

Well, we’ve already had one homeowner shot dead by police (67 yr. old grandma inside her home) as a result of not putting her unloaded weapon down after ordering census goons off her property. The feds will do whatever they want, whenever they want. Believe it.

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=81905

http://community.lawyers.com/forums/t/100680.aspx

Arielle

May 28th, 2010
10:27 am

This is really nuts…First the Census questions are NOT at all “intrusive”, second, if the “Americans” in question simply fulfilled THEIR Constitutional obligation to be counted and filled out the damn form and sent it in, they wouldn’t have to have a visit at all. And third, the census workers can legally enter an apartment building…not each specific apartment…in fact, they aren’t even supposed to enter apartments if INVITED in (as I witnessed first hand when one of my tenets didn’t send in his form). This blogger is making much ado about NOTHING.

Mason

May 28th, 2010
10:27 am

I thought one was only obliged to disclose the number of residents and that the other questions were optional. That’s the only question I answered. The census worker was a bit miffed but didn’t hassle me any further.

JessicaViv

May 28th, 2010
10:27 am

I’m curious as to what purpose they have in your house, if you are not their to answer their questions about how many occupy it??

How is this legal, this is why people are getting upset and refuse to cooperate with the census works. In the mid 1700 when the resisters of government oppression and over taxation were gearing up to create the declaration of Independence, this is what they were fighting against.

DHAM

May 28th, 2010
10:28 am

I continue to get calls from people claiming they are part of the Census team hired by the Governement to work 9:00 am – 9:00 pm to call and verify that I filled out my form correctly. They are asking me to complete a 10 minute survey over the phone and tell me its required by federal law that I participate. I told them I already filled out the form and I’m not going to answer any more questions. I also told them not to call back becuase they are wasting tax payers money.

Can they demand that I respond to the phone interview?

Fred

May 28th, 2010
10:29 am

I am doing the census count in my area and in my training these activities were explicitly prohibited! I am curous to see – published – where this information came from (public law,census bereau guidelines, etc.) before I would give it ANY credence. ” trust but verify……”

dudefromdixie

May 28th, 2010
10:30 am

One thing that I don’t get about the census, I was selected “at random” to answer a questionaire about my employement, whether I was employed, had collected unemployment benefits, etc. Of course I told the census worker to forget it I wasn’t giving him any information. He didn’t like that but left. After reading the questionaire and the supposed reason for it, I asked myself, “Self, why can’t they just get this data from the labor department?” The obvious answer from self was “The Commerce and Labor departments probably hate each other and don’t share information. Much like the CIA and FBI.” My self is a pretty smart guy. Anyway, tell the census working how many people live in your household and to hit the road and hope they don’t come back.

Andrew Payne

May 28th, 2010
10:31 am

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Duh

May 28th, 2010
10:32 am

Wow where did you hear this. Can you give any actual reference to where you make these claims from. Really what kind of info could some get from entering an apartment. This guy is an idiot

Tim Baker

May 28th, 2010
10:32 am

sorry, this is called breaking and entry. They will pay the consequences no matter what the law states.

Rusty

May 28th, 2010
10:33 am

You are not required by federal law to talk to ANYONE on the phone. How can anyone verify their status over the phone?? Tell them to $hit in their hat.

DC Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
10:33 am

WRONG BOB!

Do you even have any neurons firing up there? What do you think we do, arm-wrestle a landlord after he denies our “DEMAND” for a “private” cell phone number?

If nobody is home after 3 visits, we can ask neighbors, landlords/building managers, realtors, etc for information. We ask, “How many people live here?” “What are their ages/races?” Do they own, rent, etc?” “Is this a vacation home?”

And there are FEWER questions than in previous years, making it LESS intrusive, not “increasingly intrusive,” you irresponsible dolt.

Do you think we somehow force our way into a home and go through drawers to find birthdates? Look at family photos to guess race? And $500 fines? First find at least ONE INSTANCE of that happening. Like a death-panel or FEMA camp!

You are a real jackass with a typical right-wing wild imagination! I can’t wait to encounter your true believers on my shift.

What a waste of space that could be occupied by decent, informative journalism.

sy

May 28th, 2010
10:34 am

Fine or no fine, try this $h17 in Texas, the idiot would be dead and the owner would have a fine of 500 bucks.. whoopie

Acornholio

May 28th, 2010
10:34 am

Here in Oklahoma if someone enters your house uninvited and unannounced you are within your right to blow their ass away. Can’t wait.

Oust The Kenyan !

May 28th, 2010
10:35 am

Don’t fill it out! Refuse to collabarate with these communist nazis. When a country is takin over by an enemy the people must refuse to help or rendar assistance in any way to the enemy. That inposter who stole the election WILL USE THAT DATA to first take your guns and then put you in reducation camps where the will make you be a homo and atheist and politcally correct. the russian czar used communism just like Hussane Obama wants to by locking all of us up and be the slaves of the lazy who have never once worked a honest job in their life. He wants to destroy our culutre and heritage of belief in God and freedom. Our founding fathers would have been so sad to see what has happened to us. They would refuse to submit. After the democrat party loses the next election hopefully Sarah Palin will be able to fix everything that this muslin wants to destroy. He may just try to not even have elction and if he does I am ready to fight for AMERICA.

G.E. Alexander

May 28th, 2010
10:36 am

Go ahead, enter. I’ll notify your next of kin where they may find the body bag.

Holly

May 28th, 2010
10:36 am

As a Property Manager I can tell you, the fine is much cheaper than a lawsuit from a resident so I will just have to pay the fine
I NEVER give access to an occupied apartment unless an emergency such as a busted water heater and then it is only my staff to deal with the heater
The Federal government and census workers can kiss my arse, I am protecting my residents

Wren

May 28th, 2010
10:36 am

Dear Barr,
Please cease writing about issues wherein you are required to interpret law, as you are apparently an idiot, or lazy, or intentionally deceptive. There was a time when the term ‘work ethic’ meant something to a reporter, you know.

Big Red

May 28th, 2010
10:37 am

Tea Party UNITE! Do not answer census questions! They are illegal. Literally, they hire illegals. Ask them for birth certificates if they come to your door, and they will go away!

Houston

May 28th, 2010
10:38 am

The census worker came by because I answered only the questions that the governmnet needed to “count” the number of people in my home. She was very nice, very polite and was very understanding of my reluctance to answer certain questions. I met her outside, invited her into the shade and politely told her that I did not desire to answer certain questions. She “assumed” my ethnicity incorrectly (I did not correct her), marked it on her form and went on her way.

kevinbgoode

May 28th, 2010
10:39 am

Why is this clown even writing a column? Clearly this was a deliberate attempt to cloud factual information, to manipulate the interpretation of the law to frighten Americans and this just serves no useful purpose except to spread the usual fear-and-smear. It doesn’t even function as a credible opinion.

How does this newspaper even begin to justify this kind of unethical journalistic crap?

Motheater

May 28th, 2010
10:40 am

Granting access to a building is different from providing a direct entry to a residence.Imagine where one is allowed after entering a hospital,where access and at what time is at the whim of the establishment. A Census worker has been trained for circumstances under which to proceed. The author of this article should abandon preconceived notions [whacko right-wingnut] and realize that the intent of the Law is to grant access only. After gaining entry, the Federal representative would follow a mandated policy…You whacko right-wingers need to stop creating half-truths, twisting any minute smidgeon of a concept into something that you deem to be real to fit your perception of the world so that your fellow lemmings can feel good in your circle ‘belly scratch’ . It’s your right to be an ass…BE THE BEST THAT YOU CAN…BUT…Always be a good sport and be a good sport ALL WAYS. PeAce

kevinbgoode

May 28th, 2010
10:40 am

To Big Red:

Shouldn’t the census workers be asking people for their birth certificates – you know, just to make sure they are only counting U.S. citizens?

cujat

May 28th, 2010
10:41 am

My Springfield XD(M) begs to differ!

Zippertuck

May 28th, 2010
10:41 am

Bob, where is your proof? Where does it state Census workers have the right to enter an apartment or home? Would love to see it. Otherwise I think you are just trying to get people angry over something that is not worth getting angry over. I’m calling shenanigans!

Harumphhh

May 28th, 2010
10:43 am

http://law.justia.com/us/codes/title13/13usc223.html

I’m no lawyer but it appears the cited passage has been law since 1952. You remember the 1950’s, right? That golden age in America for which conservatives and patriots pine to return? So how is this suddenly Obama’s assault on our freedom to sit behind our locked doors cradling our shotguns?

JustMe

May 28th, 2010
10:44 am

Elliott

May 28th, 2010
10:44 am

Well you know, if you just filled out the form to begin with there wouldn’t be any reason for them to enter your apartment.

Besides this story sounds like crap anyway.

Rusty

May 28th, 2010
10:46 am

They CAN >>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

The law is specifically written to accommodate the government.

kevinbgoode

May 28th, 2010
10:46 am

harumphhh –

They don’t call them con-artist con-servatives for nothing.

Ben in Virginia

May 28th, 2010
10:48 am

Sounds like the perfect job for somebody who is a career criminal and looking for unfettered access to homes to exploit.. Just show some unschooled apartment manager or superintendent a copy of the statue as proof of authorization along with a census ID card and viola! Instant access and instant intelligence on possible booty to be had in a break-in or armed robbery/home intrusion. Thank you Census bureau…..Once again proving that Government is the root of many of our problems and very few actual “solutions”…..

M.Siers

May 28th, 2010
10:49 am

I see no reference to documentation on this. As a matter of fact, to the contrary, the census site says they won’t ask to be let into your home:

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/preparing.php

“If you don’t send back your form, you may receive a visit from a census taker. If a census taker visits you, here’s what you should do:

* First ask to see their ID. All census workers carry official government badges marked with just their name; they may also have a “U.S. Census Bureau” bag
* Note that the census taker will never ask to enter your home
* If you’re still not certain about their identity, please call the Regional Census Centers to confirm they are employed by the Census Bureau…”

TK

May 28th, 2010
10:49 am

I heard that the ad campaign is so effective at saying “more people = more money” that people are actually putting more residents on the form then there really are in order to “get more money” from the government. Nice eh?

Don't tred on me

May 28th, 2010
10:49 am

Harumphhh, we are not stupid. we know when that law was passed. The difference here is that Obango hates our culture and will do evertyhing he can to deystroy it. He wants to make our kids into gay atheists and force people to only have one kid like his role model China. The presidents we’ve had since the law was passed have (mostly except for the demoncrat ones) had Americas best interests at heart and tried to not abuse their power. Our so called president isn’t even an American citizen so we know he doesn’t even care about us real Americans.

BROKEN CENSUS

May 28th, 2010
10:49 am

@Byron Mathison Kerr

i filled out the census form and sent it back. they send me another one to fill out, as if i hadnt returned it. then they send a reminder to me to fill it out. then something is posted in my building that census people will be coming around.

when does it end? why not use social security numbers and immigration statistics? maybe let people use the internet to reply to the thing we receive in the mail? this would involve them giving each address a “unique ID number” for tracking purposes, but it would seem like the efficient way to do things. the current system is archaic beyond belief.

dudefromdixie

May 28th, 2010
10:51 am

Census worker: My race and the fact that I own or rent my home is none of your GD business so don’t even waste your time asking.

madtrouter

May 28th, 2010
10:52 am

Lets see how far they get with my Glock pointed in their face…

Some Guy

May 28th, 2010
10:52 am

It’s funny how all these people won’t fill out a 10 question census form as it’s too intrusive, but they all have Facebook accounts and Twitter accounts detailing their every day life

ColtAuto45

May 28th, 2010
10:52 am

OMG … (Helen = May 28th, 2010 = 9:03 am = “Its for YOUR own good..”) Did you even think about what you said? That is like “I’m from the government and I am here to help”. SCARY!!!

texan

May 28th, 2010
10:54 am

come on in to my apt, and there will be some funerals in the coming days,

Cmorr

May 28th, 2010
10:55 am

Apparently, no one has considered what the States could do with all the money sent to DC that is sent back to the States after DC gets its share. Billions, folks. Billions. As to the census request for ethnicity, just fill Other as “American,” presuming you are. And if you fill out the census form and mail it in, you won’t have any census worker knocking at your door. Simple, huh?

jerk

May 28th, 2010
10:56 am

stop worrying about the census and start worrying about the thousands upon thousands of illegal aliens entering the country every day.

Chris Carman

May 28th, 2010
10:56 am

This is only PARTIALLY Correct. The Census workers are able to access where one lives ie a Condominium, Apartment Complex, Group living area etc in general places that have NO SOLICITATION signs or are guarded by a gate, BUT they cannot physically go into a place one lives. Only to the door ie if one is in a condo they can gain access to the hall one lives on but not access to the door of your physical property.

Wusung

May 28th, 2010
10:56 am

Well at least for now we have the right to bear arms and in Colorado the make my day law is still in place. The government can stay out of my house.

MikeH

May 28th, 2010
10:56 am

The census worker showed up at my home after I filled the form out with only the first line completed(# of occupants). I told her that was all she needed to know, she said fine and that was it.

I don’t really care what supposedly the law says regarding census workers entering my home. No one is coming in who I don’t want there – it’s that simple. I’m going to consider it unlawful entry if they do.

furby

May 28th, 2010
10:58 am

Bob Barr looks like Edward Hibbert who plays Gil Chesterton on “Frasier”….the little queer guy…..

dudefromdixie

May 28th, 2010
11:02 am

SomeGuy: Clearly you are an idiot. Having a Facebook or Twitter account (I have neither BTW) is a personal choice. Having to answer questions that are unconstitional is a different matter. Where would you draw the line? I’m curious. Would you answer questions about your income, your net worth, your education level, your penis size?

San Diego County Apartment Association

May 28th, 2010
11:02 am

Under Federal law, the census workers can gain access to a rental community and recieve a list of the names of the occupants, but that is all a property owner is required to provide. Under California law the information in the resident’s file is protected by privacy laws. The only way a landlord sould provide that information to others is as a result of a court order.

Chris

May 28th, 2010
11:04 am

Well, I shall sit at home, and await for someone to enter my home uninvited and unannounced and see how they respond to a bullet hole in the head.