Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

Thousands of census workers, including many temporary employees, are fanning out across America to gather information on the citizenry.  This is a process that takes place not only every decade in order to complete the constitutionally-mandated census; but also as part of the continuing “American Community Survey” conducted by the Census Bureau on a regular basis year in and year out.

What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.”  If the landlord of such apartment or other  leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.

That’s right — not only can citizens be fined if they fail to answer the increasingly intrusive questions asked of them by the federal government under the guise of simply counting the number of people in the country; but a landlord must give them access to your apartment whether you’re there or not, in order to gather whatever “statistics” the law permits.

In fact, some census workers apparently are going even further and demanding — and receiving — private cell phone numbers from landlords in order to call tenants and obtain information from them.  Isn’t it great to live in a “free” country?

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Mike

May 28th, 2010
1:45 pm

This “report” is complete fear-mongering. I am a Census employee, and as many of my fellow employees have already pointed out, this a very very loose interpretation of a law that is meant to allow Census workers access to apartment buildings and gated communities. It does NOT allow them to barge into the actual apartments/condos/housing units. The Census training actually emphasizes that the enumerators should NOT go into people’s houses unless the person is absolutely insisting.

And contrary to what you are “reporting”, Bob, the Census form has actually become significantly shorter over the past 50 years. The 1960 Census had 70 questions on it. This is not an “increasingly invasive” form. The facts would actually suggest the opposite.

As a regular reader of the Drudge Report, I must say shame on Matt Drudge for posting a link to such a poorly formulated blog and calling it news. Make sure you have your facts straight before you start fear-mongering.

Darryl Owens, USMC ret.

May 28th, 2010
1:45 pm

I am a forward district supervisor of the Census Bureau out of the Birmingham office. All of these folks posting and claiming knowledge of Census training, manuals or internal regs are blowing smoke up your you know what. It is well-known common knowledge that under this administration, Census employees are being encouraged to enter all domiciles – anything found, including so-called un-American literature like National Review, Ann Coulter books, the Bible, etc., is to be reported to Federal LEOs

Here’s a quick summary of the current status, and clearing up a lot of the misconceptions here from the Democrat party operatives and union reps posting:

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of legal and illegal residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute (quoted many times earlier).

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances like microwaves and ranges. Of course, under recently enacted federal legislation, Census bureau reps are allowed to use your toilets any time.

Jackson * 2

May 28th, 2010
1:47 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
1:47 pm

Mr Owens you are NOT a census worker.

Jackson * 3

May 28th, 2010
1:48 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Jackson * 4

May 28th, 2010
1:49 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Jackson * 5

May 28th, 2010
1:49 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Darryl Owens, USMC ret.

May 28th, 2010
1:51 pm

I am a district supervisor of the Census Bureau out of the Birmingham office. All of these folks posting and claiming knowledge of Census training, manuals or internal regs are blowing smoke up your you know what. It is well-known common knowledge that under this administration, Census employees are being encouraged to enter all domiciles – anything found, including so-called un-American literature like National Review, Ann Coulter books, the Bible, etc., is to be reported to Federal LEOs

Here’s a quick summary of the current status, and clearing up a lot of the misconceptions here from the Democrat party operatives and union reps posting:

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of legal and illegal residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute (quoted many times earlier).

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

Beth

May 28th, 2010
1:52 pm

Census employees have NO right to demand entry to your home! I worked for the bureau for three years, and no employee has any right to force any info from you or access to your residence or phone numbers. The only questions you are required by law to answer is how many people live in your home once every 10 years.

Joe Public

May 28th, 2010
1:52 pm

Though the wording of the statute is somewhat troubling, it appears to simply require “ingress thereto” and “egress therefrom,” which should mean census workers have a right to go knocking on doors, but not to get access into residential living quarters as the article suggests. However, if “ingress thereto “and “egress thereform” is not permitted, the statute does require that a list of residents’ names be provided.

I could also see some idiotic judge ruling that the statute does permit entry into a residence. As a landlord what business is it of mine to tell Big Brother who lives where? That should be left to the discretion of the citizen, not the landlord. If the tenant wants to fill out the census form, fine. If not, tough luck. The government needs to address what it believes is permitted by this statute.

Jackson * 6

May 28th, 2010
1:53 pm

I am a big fan of our dear leader, Barrak Obama, he gives me a tinkle up and down my leg.

Please support the SEIU and the Teamsters by continuing to vote Democrat.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
1:56 pm

Once Again…

Census Workers CANNOT and WILL NOT enter your apartment or home

Mr Barr made a mistake

Jack

May 28th, 2010
1:57 pm

“former advertising executive, former research analyst , a school teacher, a 28-year veteran Chief Petty Officer, and a realtor. Our sister team includes a couple of engineers.”Funny all these highly trained professionals have all this time to go out and make $10/hr walking the streets…so much for Obama’s jobs “saved or created”!! I know, I know, you people are so selfless that you spends hrs giving up making $50-100/hr to get $10/hr due to your civic responsibility…Right. There is 10% unemployment…closer to 20% real unemployment with this UN loving, US country destroying Obama Regime. We have no individual rights..only collective rights based on the needs of the STATE.

GetAGrip_BOB

May 28th, 2010
1:58 pm

what on earth were ‘intrusive’ about the 10 census questions? My name?

I read this full article and started on the comments before I realized who had written it.
The JohnBirch Society graduate. figures

let me quess, do you think a North Korean submarine shot a torpedo at the Gulf of Mexico fallen platform as well?

Jack

May 28th, 2010
1:59 pm

Just read an article of how a “highly trained” Census worker beat at raped a woman in her home. I guess this is legal access since it was on offical census business!

FreeinTX

May 28th, 2010
2:00 pm

You guys post the very law, that states, very clearly, that the landlord of a “hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building” has to give census workers access to these premisis or face $500.00 fines, then say the Barr is crazy for saying that they can force landlords to grant them access or face $500.00 fines.

I don’t get it. Okay, you say that they have never used the law to it’s fullest extent. Ya, so, what does that mean? If they CAN whenever they want to, isn’t THAT the problem? We KNOW they mis-used the Patriot Act THOUSANDS of times going after the most petty criminals. Sneak and peeks, allowed under anti-terrorism laws, used against drug addicts, and shoplifters. We KNOW the mis-use the authorities granted to the IRS to go after criminals for crimes that have nothing to do with tax evasion or tax crimes. They have even used the IRS to get access to attorney files. Is this going to be different? Why? ‘Cause the haven’t done it before? That we know of?

The law is CLEAR. It is plain Englilsh, and just because the Census have never before utilized this law to it’s fullest extent, has NOTHING to do with the fact that the law says they can, and to call Barr crazy because he is simply pointing out the PLAIN ENGLISH violation of the 4th and 5th Amendment is so very disengenuous. Don’t you have someting better to do?

mariana

May 28th, 2010
2:01 pm

This was NOT covered in the Enumerator Training I received. An urban legend, I’d bet.

Because I did not want ACORN aiding and abetting this corrupt administration in “creating” the Census by default, I decided to become an Enumerator – along with 16 other people in my group under a crew leader. First, we had to have our fingerprints cleared with the phoebes, and a couple fell under this scrutiny. Then four 8 hour days of training.

This was one of the nicest groups of people with whom I’d ever been associated, and we worked hard and had a good time meeting this challenge, and believe me… it was often a challenge.

Breaking-and-entering, illegal searches and seizures or conspiring to gain entry with landlords to obtain confidential personal information- were distinctly omitted from the training and rules under which we operated. Additionally, unless there was a house on fire with a baby screaming inside, NOTHING could have convinced me to cross a private threshold without a present invitation from the resident. mariana

FreeinTX

May 28th, 2010
2:02 pm

I think my Y key isn’t working right.

Jonathan

May 28th, 2010
2:04 pm

I find it hilarious that there are people on here blaming Obama for the Census. This is the country’s 23rd Cenus. We do it every 10 years, and it is mandated by the Constitution. It is how we determine each state’s number of representatives in Congress and how to distribute funding. All the information is completely confidential for 72 years. The more responses your state gets, the better represented and better funded your state will be.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:04 pm

There is nothing in the law that says a landlord can let a census worker into a persons living quarters.

More misinformaton. And its sad, cause some of these people will believe anything BOB BARR says and act upon it.

Census workers are part time people…with no political agenda. AND WE CANT GO INTO YOUR HOME

Darryl Owens USMC ret

May 28th, 2010
2:06 pm

CENSUS WORKER and Jackson are liars. Here’s the real scoop:

I am a district supervisor of the Census Bureau out of the Birmingham office. All of these folks posting and claiming knowledge of Census training, manuals or internal regs are blowing smoke up your you know what. It is well-known common knowledge that under this administration, Census employees are being encouraged to enter all domiciles – anything found, including so-called un-American literature like National Review, Ann Coulter books, the Bible, etc., is to be reported to Federal LEOs

Here’s a quick summary of the current status, and clearing up a lot of the misconceptions here from the Democrat party operatives and union reps posting:

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of legal and illegal residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute (quoted many times earlier).

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:07 pm

These training manuals were written during the Bush Administration, and the Census would have been done the exact same way is McCain won.

Oh yeam did I forget to mention???

CENSUS WORKERS CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTER YOUR HOME

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:09 pm

LOL Mr Owens..I have the training manual right here beside me.

And you are not a census worker

bettinajo

May 28th, 2010
2:11 pm

You are such a moron. None of what you write is true. You are making up stuff.

flowe944

May 28th, 2010
2:15 pm

First question on form is “how many”, this and privacy statement enclosed in an outlined box. The race/age/other questions are outside the “box” and data not required by law. I only answered legal “how many”
and no census worker has visited……and the rest is none of their business.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:15 pm

Mr Owens, I hope you do not have a friend or family member who is working for the Census this spring.

All it takes is one whack job with a gun to read this article and believe it, and someone dies.

And by the way….CENSUS WORKERS CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTER YOUR HOME

Ken JP Stuczynski

May 28th, 2010
2:20 pm

I was a Census worker in 2000 and would NEVER have used my so-called authority to do as such. If I did, I would deserve the full brunt of Castle Doctrine, and will support any citizen who enforces their rights as necessary — though by doing so, the idiots of our society will probably label them “terrorists” instead of patriots.

Greg

May 28th, 2010
2:20 pm

I think the problem is what the census is USED for compared to 1790. Back then it was used for all these nice things like geneology and other nice things. Now it is used to pander to the lazy electorate. Get more representatives to the densely populated slums and promise more handouts…

I know what the lying scumbag politicos are going to do with the census info, that’s why I put down that 24 Amish transgendered nazis live here.

ralpherus

May 28th, 2010
2:21 pm

The Census is constitutional. What folks are worried about is that the government is currently in the control of slimy treasonous evil criminal pig sorts. That is upsetting, whether or not they count heads. Try doing any research of your ancestors without encountering ancient census info! It really is a good thing. When they find an illegally present family though, the census workers should be required to torch the place and fire on anyone trying to escape. That would help slow the invasion

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:21 pm

Ken the good thing is, you didnt have the authority to enter anyones home..just like We dont now.

Which reminds me…CENSUS WORKERS CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTER YOUR HOME

seanmom

May 28th, 2010
2:23 pm

QueenBey, that was not a census worker. There is NO income question on the census. None. If you doubt a census worker is one, call the local census office.

The person who said a worker talked to her child needs to report that event. Enumerators may only take proxy information from an ADULT.

By the way, there are innumerable things that can get you fired as a census worker, none of which any enumerator wants to do, because being fired means not getting unemployment. So then you’ve wasted all that time taking a test, being trained, having your fingerprints taken multiple times and spending all that time dealing with hostile idiots like those defending Barr for his blatant lies here–and then you end up with no job AND no unemployment income, and having to report on other job aps that you were fired from a federal job.

SO anyone that enters a premises without permission, looks in the windows, rattles the door, fills out the forms fraudulently (there are follow-up phone calls on five percent of enumerator cases to check the work that has been turned in), mouths off to a crew leader, misses a mandatory training, consistently files payroll late, etc, etc., would have to be crazy. This job is short-lived, and there is no payoff for cutting corners, falsifying data, or otherwise engaging in unethical or illegal activity.

BD

May 28th, 2010
2:26 pm

Come in my home un welcomed or un announced and you will be looking down the barrell of a .45

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:28 pm

So BD, the good news is, you wont be pointing your .45 at a Census Worker…

Why? Because…CENSUS WORKERS CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTER YOUR HOME

BD

May 28th, 2010
2:29 pm

.45 spud gun……. lol hahahaha heres a potato for ya

BD

May 28th, 2010
2:30 pm

i dont even own a gun partner..just blowin smoke……got to make yall curious

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mike

May 28th, 2010
2:30 pm

Census workers would have to be nuts to enter a house. In Texas, They may catch a 10mm right between the eyes. Some guys asleep, and awakened to someone walking into his bedroom. I would never walk into someones home. What if they are hard of hearing, have a hearing aid thats turned off because their asleep. Thats insane.

timmy

May 28th, 2010
2:31 pm

section 1 article 2 clause 3

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:32 pm

It’s all good, Seriously..I am really ticked off. I run a crew of census workers and when I saw this on Drudge, I was angry.

We have no authority to enter anyones home.

Mr Barr was very clumsy while trying to feed his readers their red meat

justducky

May 28th, 2010
2:35 pm

I am one of those temporary census workers and this is all news to me! In fact, it is NOT true! We absolutely positively cannot enter someone’s living quarters if they are absent. Not only that, we are encouraged not to enter even if they are present and INVITE us in. Get real.

Kevin Gregg

May 28th, 2010
2:37 pm

In the United States the people are sovereign. It is the people who are the government. Therefore it is imperative to know who exactly the people are! The government has a right to know itself, to know what it consists of. Don’t get all huffy because you’re too paranoid or anti-social or lazy or whatever to answer the census form that comes to you in the mail. If you don’t want your abode entered into, step up like a man or woman and answer the census.

Rich L

May 28th, 2010
2:37 pm

This doesn’t surprise me. I guess it’s time to get a Pitbull and a few Rotweiller’s.

AJ

May 28th, 2010
2:38 pm

You know, all this time, I believed that the census was optional, and recall reading something to that effect. But if you browse the US Code noted somehwere above, you’ll see that you can be fined for not participating.

Jack Kennedy

May 28th, 2010
2:39 pm

there is an easy answer to the census brown shirts – dont answer the door

or live behind a gate and they cant get to you

works for me and my family and neighbors

Jim in Tifton, GA

May 28th, 2010
2:39 pm

Tifton (GA) Gazette newspaper reported a woman in a Tifton apt. had filled out her form and mailed it in, but a census taker came and it was a large man and she felt threatened. She answered through the door to him telling him she had already mailed hers in, but he demanded access anyway. She said he returned several times and pounded on the door. She called the newspaper to report. Don’t know any other details. Was printed in the Tifton Gazette recently.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
2:40 pm

Ok it is now official that Mr Barr was mistaken.

I will leave you to banter about red meat political issues

For the last time..I leave you with this

CENSUS WORKERS CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTER YOUR HOME

Tom Kaiser

May 28th, 2010
2:42 pm

You wouldnt happen to have any, you know, like, EVIDENCE of your assetion, Mr barr?

Tom Kaiser

May 28th, 2010
2:44 pm

Any way, how can you count the number of people in an EMPTY apartment? Hello? lol

This is a no-brainer folks. I wont say who has the no-brain.

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