Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

Thousands of census workers, including many temporary employees, are fanning out across America to gather information on the citizenry.  This is a process that takes place not only every decade in order to complete the constitutionally-mandated census; but also as part of the continuing “American Community Survey” conducted by the Census Bureau on a regular basis year in and year out.

What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.”  If the landlord of such apartment or other  leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00.

That’s right — not only can citizens be fined if they fail to answer the increasingly intrusive questions asked of them by the federal government under the guise of simply counting the number of people in the country; but a landlord must give them access to your apartment whether you’re there or not, in order to gather whatever “statistics” the law permits.

In fact, some census workers apparently are going even further and demanding — and receiving — private cell phone numbers from landlords in order to call tenants and obtain information from them.  Isn’t it great to live in a “free” country?

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Hk59

May 28th, 2010
12:45 pm

Do your research. You and I are constitutionally obligated to answer the census questions. Not one question is intrusive and it takes less than 2-minutes to open, answer, and resend the questions.

Original Van Buren Boy

May 28th, 2010
12:45 pm

Well I own my home and if this same law applies they better hope I’m not there when the enter my home uninvited because I am a gun owner, so if I am there and just not answering the door things could get very ugly.

Nancee

May 28th, 2010
12:45 pm

Ok, in NJ we had a registered sex offender as a census taker.yes he used a false name but now someone who can illegally obtain a government job can legally enter your home. What a freakin country.

Pogue

May 28th, 2010
12:46 pm

Actually, just read the NY Post for articles covering the crimes of the census, including breaking and entering, tampering with the mail, forcible entry, rape, theft, etc. And read about the whistle blowers in NYC who were hired multiple times, worked an hour or two, and were fired before repeating the process so the Census could inflate their employment #s. The Whitehouse has screwed this one up BAAAD.
Oh, and read about the creepy emphasis on Hispanics, too. They’re single-mindedly focused on Hispanics above all else. Pogue

james

May 28th, 2010
12:47 pm

Please just pull that BS on me. Just because you clock-out for the day, doesn’t mean it’s fricking over.

beth

May 28th, 2010
12:49 pm

I am a Census Worker in Missouri, and we can’t do any of that.

We are under very strict guidelines – we can’t even open the screen door, much less harass a resident.
We are only allowed three visits to a home and cannot access or enter a residence unless the resident themselves have invited us in. Even then, we are discouraged to enter.

So – I wonder where this is going on?????

Porno Bear

May 28th, 2010
12:50 pm

They are coming into my house when I’m not there.

Somebody got on my computer and downloaded a bunch of porn.
It had to be a census worker. I’m sure of that, your honor.

Rob

May 28th, 2010
12:51 pm

CENSUS WORKERS CANNOT ENTER YOUR HOME !

END OF STORY – RETRACTION FORTHCOMING MR BARR

And for those of you who think you are a great american for refusing to give info, all you are doing is wasting tax money on followup visits to you or your neighbors. Census workers are paid well for temp employees, so while you think you are a true patriot, you are extending the operation and dollars paid out of the tax pool.

Weed Bear

May 28th, 2010
12:52 pm

They are coming into my house when I’m not there.

Somebody smoked all my weed and ate my Doritos.
It had to be a census worker. I don’t remember doing any of that myself.

Ylem

May 28th, 2010
12:53 pm

I only answered the question of the number of people — nothing else. Let’s see if they come to my home…. which I doubt because I live in a black neighborhood.

Alana

May 28th, 2010
12:55 pm

A lot of testosterone on here today.

We get it..you’re tough, you’ve got a gun, you’ve got a dog.
You’re ready to unleash both on this imaginary person that won’t ever come into your home.

I’ve got a keyboard, and I’m not afraid to use it…

Ylem

May 28th, 2010
12:56 pm

Hk59 – May 28th, 2010, 12:45 pm
Do your research. You and I are constitutionally obligated to answer the census questions. Not one question is intrusive and it takes less than 2-minutes to open, answer, and resend the questions.
__________________

Another liberal thinker… just bend over and take it.

Bill Bobaggins

May 28th, 2010
12:56 pm

Whomever posted the law may want to re-read it, ESPECIALLY the part where it says “or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom”. For the record, ingress and egress means enter and exit, therefore they CAN be fined for not allowing said Census worker into the apartment. It doesn’t say anything about someone being there or not.

Rob

May 28th, 2010
12:56 pm

They will come back to your home or your neighbors

So thank you for giving a census worker more hours to bill the US taxpayer

norcali

May 28th, 2010
12:59 pm

had a worker call my cell this morning because some residents on my property won’t answer the door

enumeratorntmpa

May 28th, 2010
1:02 pm

As a census taker, I beg to differ. In our training class it was stressed we not even open a screen door to knock on the door or to leave a “notice of visit.” As far as entering a home/apt we were advised not to, even if invited. If you have examples? If so, please advise on this site.

MaeQueen

May 28th, 2010
1:04 pm

The census worker who called twice, left three messages on my door, and finally showed up on a Sunday evening(!) was nice but…When I told her I was moving out-of-state, I asked, “Well, all those commericals on TV say that my information will help build schools and community services, but how is that possible, if I’m moving out of state?”

“Oh, that’s all right, ” she said, “It’s just important to get you into the system.”

Yeah, right…

Chris

May 28th, 2010
1:05 pm

Sir, i am a door to door worker for the census and can tell you on most level you are comepletely and TOTALLY wrong. The only part of your article that was actually correct was how a worker may obtain a personal number from a neighbor or landlord, but in so many words comparring that to communism? Really?

Harry

May 28th, 2010
1:06 pm

that is total bull! i cant believe they give common workers this type of power, if they are gonna do that all those workers need the same kind of background check that federal agents go thru, altho i would much rather have someone get ahold of my tele # than rummage thru my house

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
1:08 pm

Harry.. It is Bob Barr who is feeding you total bull.

Census Workers cannot enter your home

Dougger

May 28th, 2010
1:11 pm

“Empowered under federal law” is meaningless if that law is unconstitutional.
Congress clearly violated the 4th amendment in passing such a law.

YehudaSF

May 28th, 2010
1:11 pm

How much money is being paid to the census “shills” to sit and post their lies (repeatedly) in this and other forums? Welcome to Marxist HO-bama land, where the governments evil agents are everywhere spreading the propaganda of the evil, lying soetoro/hobama.

Greg Norton

May 28th, 2010
1:11 pm

Wrong.
Landlords and apartment managers must let census workers enter the building, but census workers are not permitted to enter apartments themselves. We are permitted only in the common areas like lobbies and common hallways so that we are able to knock on doors of individual apartments to contact apartment dwellers if they are home.

There is no requirement that census workers be admitted to any apartment or housing unit.

Read the law. Making up fairy-tales to scare people is a tactic of the Left (and current President). This particular fairy tale merely undermines the credibility of all who oppose unlimited government.

Oh, just about ALL the Census field workers are temporary. We are sworn to uphold the law and face penalties up to $200,000 if we violate privacy laws or misuse our office. The apartment manager who refuses to let a Census worker in to the building to knock on doors faces only $500. But it is unlikely any apartment manger will be recalcitrant when he understands.

This blog is spreading falsehoods.

A Census Team Leader

Jeff

May 28th, 2010
1:12 pm

Two words: CASTLE DOCTRINE. Anyone who enters my home without my permission will be shot.

Jim

May 28th, 2010
1:13 pm

The real question is why they need so much information. Those of you that don’t think that some of this could be used to “profile” you in the future are sadly mistaken. As someone above mentioned, the looney left raises hell about the Arizona law because it may “profile”, but don’t seem to have a problem with the census.

Kim in Tulsa

May 28th, 2010
1:14 pm

This is exactly what happened to me! We are moving from our 5 bedrm home into a 2 bedrm apartment – thanks to the great housing market – and turned in our census form last month, from our house address. We have had 3 notices on our apartment door and I got a call on MY CELL PHONE two nights ago telling me she needed my census information. I informed her that I had already turned it in and she said then I must give her my old address. I did. The questions did not stop, she wanted to know how many children I had and if my husband was also moving with me. I told her I don’t have to tell you that you have the info you need and you are not going to count my family twice. I then hung up. Not happy now that I read this, irritated before, but seriously angry now.

Time to rise up

May 28th, 2010
1:16 pm

Let us look at the census for what it really is… a way for the government to prepare itself for the detention and re-education of conservatives in this country. This is an outright assault. They are asking questions about money, guns and religious beliefs. This is so the government later on can quickly and in the dead of night seize the guns that are our right, given to us by the All mighty and the Second amendment. I think that we should treat the scooting parties of the enemy the welcome that they deserve. We need to rise up and not only get rid of the America hating leftist demoncrats but do to them what they want to do to us. They have declared our way of life as wrong and want us to embrasce socialism and throw away evrything that every service man has died for. Our kids are being taught that God is a lie and that homosexuality is normal and not a perversion. In the liberal bastion of our schools, are children are being taught to even report their parents for saying things about Barry Sotero.

Anonymous

May 28th, 2010
1:17 pm

It’s sad that this gets picked up by so many different resources. This whole article is a complete and utter fabrication of reality. That is not at all what the law says. Census workers cannot enter your home under any circumstances without your permission.

What they CAN do is demand a list of occupants from a landlord if the property is rented. That in no way compares to what Barr says in this article.

For those who read this garbage regularly you should consider the legitimacy going forward. Simply put, consider the fact that this man doesn’t cite his sources. Barr you’re distorting reality for your own benefit.

L. E.

May 28th, 2010
1:18 pm

We all must learn the law and sue the individuals violating the constitution, as well as the agencies and officials in the chain. Start listening to Rule of Law and Jurisdictionary on http://www.ruleoflawradio.com/. Get a copy of Jurisdictionary and get with friends and neighbors to learn it and start using our fabulous legal system that has been misused by those who are in power. You do have power to do more, but one must turn off the tv and get after it. This is the only way without bloodshed. And, of course, voting every incumbent out of office.

Conservative Grandmother

May 28th, 2010
1:18 pm

I actually lost my first Census form, so as a good citizen, I called and ordered another one. Filled it out and sent it in; however, still got a visit from a 30ish woman who really wanted to come inside. I have three very loud barking dogs, so I just went out on the porch. The worst part is she wanted my phone number, and I just refused and looked at her straight in the eye when I said it. She was bothered for sure, but commented, “well, you really don’t have to.” I just smiled and said I knew I didn’t have to.

Mark Census

May 28th, 2010
1:19 pm

Bob, Is the media no longer required to fact check anything? Census workers cannot enter your private property and conduct interviews at the door.

About The Barr Code
Where experience, logic and ideas trump political correctness and the status quo every time.

Your stupidity has officially trumped your cliche’ mission statement. No wonder your readership sucks.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:21 pm

“Oh and do not forget that they too lend their “eyes” to alert social services to file false allegations of suspected child abuse as they have been in your residence for five minutes and are either psychic or are able to analyze a situation better than a professional. And with that they can take away your child and not let you see them for six months and then claim all is better and give you back your child without an apology….that is what a census worker did in Canada….oh and it is not a crime!”

Wrong, being both a court-mandated reporter and a former Census employee I can relay my conversations with my superiors in that they explicitly instructed me NOT to inform law enforcement of any misdeeds. I was bound by oath to protect the privacy of the citizenry and despite the possible conflict of interest by being a mandated reporter, I was still forbidden from relaying any information learned while working as a census employee with any other organization or institution, federal or private. Should I have disregarded those instructions i would face federal charges including a prison sentence and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. I assure you, no Census employee would willfully distribute any information. I can say that myself and coworkers witnessed illegal activities but were unable and disinclined to share that information.

Paradoxically, the only time we were allowed to alert Police is when we were facing imminent and unavoidable harm – the kind of harm brought on by attack dogs and guns rather than simply closing the door and calmly objecting based on principle.

Spook

May 28th, 2010
1:23 pm

Good! I’ll make my home look like noone is home and when they come in without my permission, I will shoot and kill them under the “Make my Day” Law.

Come on in ACORN, JOYCE, TIDES and SEIU, come on in!

Darryl Owens, USMC ret.

May 28th, 2010
1:23 pm

I am a forward district supervisor of the Census Bureau out of the Birmingham office. All of these folks posting and claiming knowledge of Census training, manuals or internal regs are blowing smoke up your you know what. It is well-known common knowledge that under this administration, Census employees are being encouraged to enter all domiciles – anything found, including so-called un-American literature like National Review, Ann Coulter books, the Bible, etc., is to be reported to Federal LEOs

Here’s a quick summary of the current status, and clearing up a lot of the misconceptions here from the Democrat party operatives and union reps posting:

WRONG – Census workers cannot enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence, and search your belongings to ascertain the number of legal and illegal residents as of April 1.

A manager shall give access to an apartment building AND provide keys to individual units to adhere to the binding statute (quoted many times earlier).

Per administrative law, the census worker is allowed to obtain refreshment from the legally entered domicile, including water, soft drinks and sandwiches. At this time, the OMB is forbidding census workers to use private domicile appliances.

Richard

May 28th, 2010
1:24 pm

I to was not to keen about the census this time around so I did a little research. I found much more intrusions it past census forms such as the question “Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate army or navy”. This question was on the 1910 census form. Now think about that question being asked you if you where a veteran of the Confederate army. Would you have been concerned about why the government wanted or needed to know that? I sure would have been. There is a website that has all the previous census forms and compared to the one I filled out this year I don’t believe in is intrusive but I am real concerned about what the American hating bum-in-chief might do with my information.

Truth Comment

May 28th, 2010
1:26 pm

Fox News hates America

Kanye East

May 28th, 2010
1:28 pm

Barack Obama hates white people.

Yaymel

May 28th, 2010
1:29 pm

As long as the census worker is super sweet hott passionate and romantic and doesnt mind practicing to increase the census count in 9mos – bring it on baby!

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:29 pm

“Fox News hates America”

You kidding? They love America… it’s made them all rich!

Dan

May 28th, 2010
1:32 pm

Honestly I fully support all the conspiracy nuts in the flyover states refusing to take the census. The less of them that are counted, the less of their shenanigans we have to put up with in the House. Sadly, we can’t simply forget that they exist for the Senate, but it’s better than nothing.

Eric

May 28th, 2010
1:32 pm

Holy crap this is irresponsible! A landlord or apartment manager cannot deny access to the housing units. That’s it. No one can come into your house without you letting them in!! That’s just absurd to spread this kind of pure lie just to get people riled up. As a census worker I am VERY PISSED that someone would say this because now I have to deal with the morons on this board who are claming they are going to shoot me if I knock on their door!

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:32 pm

“Barack Obama hates white people.”

Its a well known fact that he lives by “keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” It explains why he has surrounded himself with white people.

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
1:34 pm

Once again…

Census Workers CANNOT and WILL NOT enter your home

This isn’t a political campaign, We work for the census, and we dont want nut jobs assaulting us based on Irresponsible Reports like the one written by Bob Barr, who many of you are taking hook line and sinker.

The only reason I am on this blog right now is to make sure my workers dont get hurt because of irresponsible lies.

These people got hired in April..they will be unemployed in June. They have no political agenda.

My agenda is simple. Confront irresponsible information like this.

WE WONT TRY TO ENTER YOUR HOUSE

Didn't vote for O

May 28th, 2010
1:35 pm

Thank you fellow census workers for telling it like it REALLY is. And thank you Jackson 2 for putting out the truth.

The comments here are filled with fabrications and misrepresentations which I believe are intentionally placed to create anger. One person said she/he filled out the form with an enumerator which asked for “income.” Income questions are not on the forms.

I’ve worked on three Census operations and I’ve yet to run across one worker who was disrespectful or pushy, I wish I could say the same for ALL the ordinary folks with whom I’ve been in contact.

Everyone who is disgusted with government thinks it is okay to abuse me, as if rudeness and vulgarity directed at an elderly woman will somehow fix what they perceive as being wrong with the USA.. Give me a break, either they are down right STUPID or run of the mill BULLIES. They could even be both.

These are the same folks who want a single payer health care system and the best free education for their challenged children.

Joe Schmo

May 28th, 2010
1:37 pm

” As a census worker I am VERY PISSED that someone would say this because now I have to deal with the morons on this board who are claming they are going to shoot me if I knock on their door!”

Don’t forget the numerous people on here who claim they will invite you in, shoot you, then lie about it to the cops. Sounds like a full day of mortal sins to me.

KarlMarx

May 28th, 2010
1:37 pm

.Well, they try than and they’ll need a hurst to make the exit……simple as that…….I’d be in fear for my life.

Jackson * 1

May 28th, 2010
1:40 pm

WRONG – Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence

RIGHT – Census workers can enter your apartment BUILDING in your absence

A manager should give access to an apartment building OR provide names… one OR the other..

“Whoever, being the owner, proprietor, manager, superintendent, or agent of any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary or by any other officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof, acting under the instructions of the Secretary, to furnish the names of the occupants of such premises, or to give free ingress thereto and egress therefrom to any duly accredited representative of such Department or bureau or agency thereof, so as to permit the collection of statistics with respect to any census provided for in subchapters I and II of chapter 5 of this title, or any survey authorized by subchapter IV or V of such chapter insofar as such survey relates to any of the subjects for which censuses are provided by such subchapters I and II, including, when relevant to the census or survey being taken or made, the proper and correct enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in such premises, shall be fined not more than $500.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html

Armed

May 28th, 2010
1:42 pm

I agree with DEE DEE. Just TRY IT and you’ll be facing my .22

Census Worker

May 28th, 2010
1:44 pm

Seriously, I wouldnt waste my time on a political board to argue politics.

This is purely about safety. Safety for the thousands of temporary Census workers just trying to earn a little extra income for their families.

WE CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTER YOUR HOUSE

BOB BARR was misinformed! and Unfortunately spread a IRRESPONSIBLE FALSEHOOD

If you insist on refusing to answer the census questions, thats fine..it even keeps us employed a few extra weeks.

BUT PLEASE…we would never try to enter your house.

Mr. Think for Yourself

May 28th, 2010
1:44 pm

1. This Census is mandated by the US Constitution
2. Articles 13 and 44 of the US Code define that you must give the information to the US Census under certain penalties, but also protect your identity and personal information from being released to anyone who has not sworn an oath of secrecy for 72 years.
3. This is one of the shortest census questionnaires in 200 years, and is in fact shorter than the first census in 1790.
4. You only hurt your community by not answering the census. When the US reorganizes its congressional districts if you are not counted, then there will be less influence for your opinions in Congress. You will receive less funding for schools, buses, roads, police and fire protection.
5. All of the “intrusive” questions are designed to give a picture of where groups of people are living for statistical analyses of migration patterns and living conditions at the time of the census and from one census to another.
6. Enumerators (the part-time temporary employees) are just people trying to do their job, which is to get people to answer the questions. They don’t have the right to break in to your house, but they do have the right to come to the door, and you have a legal obligation to answer their questions. Apartment Managers have the responsibility to let the enumerators into the building if it has a common hallway, and to answer the questions as a proxy respondent, if you cannot be reached.
7. Yes, you can be fined and sent to jail for failing to answer the questions, or for providing false information. Just like if you try and obstruct any federal law.

Get over yourself, the government doesn’t care what color, race, creed, land of national origin, sexual orientation or how old YOU are, they care about groups of people and cohorts.