Bill (”The Meaning Of Is”) Clinton lectures us on language

Sometimes the ironies that manifest themselves in the behavior of current and former government officials are just too delicious to ignore.  Thus it is with remarks made last Friday by former President Bill Clinton.  Appearing before the Center for American Progress Action Fund in the nation’s capital, the former president echoed the time-worn theme employed regularly by liberals, that when “conservatives” publicly criticize the government they indirectly encourage exremist violence, such as that perpetrated by Timothy McVeigh in blowing up the Oklahoma City federal building 15 years ago this week.  Clinton, as do other critics of conservatives who argue against the big government programs liberals so love, try to blunt their criticism by claiming that they are not trying to “restrict free speech”; but that’s precisely what they are subtly trying to do by linking conservatives to violent extremists such as McVeigh.

The special irony in the case of Clinton lies in the fact that a dozen years ago, during the impeachment proceedings against him, Clinton repeatedly and rather masterfully wordsmithed his way around admitting any wrondgoing; at one point famously declaring in answer to a simple question, that ”it depends on what the meaning of  the word ‘is,’ is.” 

Thus, when Clinton lectures conservatives on the words they use, they’re learning from the master of obfuscational wordsmithing himself, William Jefferson Clinton.

115 comments Add your comment

T-Town

April 21st, 2010
6:19 am

Close, but not cigar!

T-Town

April 21st, 2010
6:25 am

Oops: Close, but no cigar!

CTHILLARY's Minion

April 21st, 2010
6:50 am

Aren’t you GLAD you settled for the Lesser Evil?

saywhat?

April 21st, 2010
7:56 am

President Clinton is right. Congressman Barr is wrong. There is a big difference between “criticizing the government” and claiming the government wants to convene deathpanels, take all your money and give it to illegal aliens, confiscate your guns, build internment camps to imprison you, convert everyone to Islam, and destroy the way of life of every American with Socialism AND Fascism, etc etc etc.

It is the difference between standing up in a crowded theater and yelling “this movie sucks!” or yelling “Fire!”.One is responsible speech (even if horribly rude) and one is not.

Why do so many conservatives preach constantly about personal responsibility but take none for the consequences of their own actions?

Balderdash

April 21st, 2010
7:57 am

TOO delicious to ignore

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
7:59 am

If Rush or any right wing talk show host had any influence on McVeigh, then why is it that NONE on the left can produce what Rush or anyone else said to incite violence.

Oh, Bill Clinton is and was a huge liar. He will always be known for one thing: Monica.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:00 am

“President Clinton is right. Congressman Barr is wrong. ”

Then you’ll have no problem producing evidence that McVeigh was influenced by right wing radio.

Louie

April 21st, 2010
8:01 am

Well, where do I start.

jackhammer, you out there????

YouAreUnCivil

April 21st, 2010
8:13 am

The republicans know exactly what they are doing when they “inspire” (for lack of a better word) their constituents. They are the code word masters.

I, for one, prefer republicans who don’t use code words; but say exactly what and whom they are referring too. For eaxample, Don’t say “those people”.

Morrus

April 21st, 2010
8:26 am

Vote out the incumbents and start over

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:26 am

“The republicans know exactly what they are doing when they “inspire” (for lack of a better word) their constituents.”

By all means, provide FACTUAL documents or audio of ANY Republican inciting violence.

You want violent words from left wingers?

Teachers Unions send out death threats and fat jokes to the current NJ governor.

Barack

April 21st, 2010
8:26 am

I know what the meaning of “is” is. It IS change you can beleive in. Now what did I do with my damn cigar?

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:27 am

“I, for one, prefer republicans who don’t use code words; but say exactly what and whom they are referring too.”

You mean like left wing communists?

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:28 am

Left wingers incite violence.

Union Memo Hints At N.J. Gov.’s Death
Bergen County Teachers Union’s Memo The Latest Salvo In War Of Words With Gov. Christie; Swift Apology Issued

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s take-no-prisoners demand for education cuts got him a whole lot more than he bargained for — a death wish.

It was in a controversial e-mail sent by the Bergen County Teachers Union to its members asking that Christie be “taken” by the Lord.

StJ

April 21st, 2010
8:30 am

Clinton has no place lecturing anyone on anything…he’s nothing but a pathological liar.

Jon but not Jon Voight

April 21st, 2010
8:30 am

Barr should recuse himself from any topic regarding Clinton. Once the repubs came into the majority in Congress during Clinton’s terms, they spent $millions trying to find something against Clinton. They appointed Kenneth Starr to search under every rock. They spent $millions investigating Whitewater. When that never materialized, they turned to Monica Lewinsky. Barr and his Repubs have aptly demonstrated that their only quest is power. Do not be fooled by this man. He is a tyrant.

jconservative

April 21st, 2010
8:44 am

This is a conversation that is rather pointless. Lets say that “conservative” talk led directly to McVeigh and his act of terrorism. So what? First Amendment freedom of speech is First Amendment freedom of speech. Some speech is productive, some is not.
It is still protected speech.

Is there a moral issue at play? Maybe. That is between the speaker and his God.

My question is why some “conservatives” get so bent out of shape when this issue is raised by “liberals”. Learn to ignore.

YouAreUnCivil

April 21st, 2010
8:54 am

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:26 am

Here is something that stood out:

The Sarah Palin website with the rifle crosshairs (targets) on Democrats is as close to inciting violence, without using actual words. When you point a gun and the target is (within sight), the expectation is to hit that target and take them down. Now, Sarah or her representative could have chosen another symbol. Why rifle crosshairs? They could have used a red “X”, which isn’t much better; although it doesn’t involve a gun symbol. Why not, mark them with “NO”; I’ve seen this on faces of politician campaign signs.

I’ve spent enough time complying to your warped reasoning; so don’t expect me to entertain you any longer.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:59 am

“I’ve spent enough time complying to your warped reasoning; so don’t expect me to entertain you any longer.’

LINK PLEASE!!!!!!! I’m guessing that you got that paragraph from HuffingtonPissed or Media Matters.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
9:00 am

“I’ve spent enough time complying to your warped reasoning; so don’t expect me to entertain you any longer.”

1: You’ve posted ONE comment in regard to mine. Hardly “time” spent.
2: What warped reasoning?
3: You don’t entertain me. You make me glad to be one that will help oust a left wing democrat come November.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
9:01 am

“Once the repubs came into the majority in Congress during Clinton’s terms, they spent $millions trying to find something against Clinton.”

Clinton lied to the grand jury. Clinton also lied on camera to America.

Bottom line: He was disbarred and he will ONLY be remembered for Monica.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
9:02 am

“Do not be fooled by this man. He is a tyrant.”

Sums up Obama alright!

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
9:05 am

“Lets say that “conservative” talk led directly to McVeigh and his act of terrorism.”

IF that statement were true then why after ten years can left wingers NOT come up with any evidence?

“My question is why some “conservatives” get so bent out of shape when this issue is raised by “liberals”.

Because Clinton had to bring up something to make himself seem relevant. Also, the left continues to call Tea Party people racist even though they can not provide any evidence of racism.

I am still waiting on the evidence from people like Cynthia Tucker and Jay Bookman who both said that a tea party person called John Lewis the N word.

Funny how no one has come forward with audio or eyewitness accounts.

Karl Marx

April 21st, 2010
9:05 am

The loser lefties never say anything to incite violence …….

Hillary Clinton said “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration that somehow you’re not patriotic. And we should stand up and say ‘We are Americans and we have a right to disagree with any administration.”

Al Gore, “He betrayed this country!”

Bill Ayers “I wish I had done more”

Rev Jeremiah Wright “ God Damn America and The US of KKK A”

No the left never spews hate… Now I have to go and mail a dead fish to someone…

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
9:11 am

The unibomber Theodore Kaczynski had a copy of Al Gore’s book.

Lee Harvey Oswald had a copy of the Communist Manifesto.

Nope……the left never has committed an act of terror.

Here, let’s take a trip down hypocrite lane. A land in which left wingers live.

Death Threats Against Bush at Protests Ignored for Years

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
9:13 am

Obama backers show signs of disappointment

Gay rights activists heckled President Barack Obama this week at a Democratic event that exposed signs of disenchantment threatening the party in November’s congressional elections.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63K0KS20100421

M Percy

April 21st, 2010
9:16 am

saywhat? 7:56 am It is the difference between standing up in a crowded theater and yelling “this movie sucks!” or yelling “Fire!”.One is responsible speech (even if horribly rude) and one is not.

Unless, of course, there happens actually to be a fire…

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
9:22 am

“One is responsible speech (even if horribly rude) and one is not. ”

So what did the right say to make McVeigh blow up the federal building?

Partisay

April 21st, 2010
9:38 am

How funny is it that we are hearing “If there is no evidence of it then it didn’t happen.” So if nobody (on the left, of course) just happened to not be there with a video camera to tape the incident as they walked by, then it just didn’t happen! What makes you think there would be someone on the left standing there in that crowd videotaping anyway?

And Karl Marx uses these words from Hillary Clinton as an example of inciting violence:

“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration that somehow you’re not patriotic. And we should stand up and say ‘We are Americans and we have a right to disagree with any administration.”

Is that the best you can do?

David Smith

April 21st, 2010
9:52 am

So, if you were lectured that words matter by, say, President Bush (43) or Rush Limbaugh, with the exact same words in the exact same order with the exact same body language and inflection and in all ways precisely the same, you would listen to the message? How likely is it that you would hear words like that out of Mr. Limbaugh or the rest of hate radio and the news distortion and propaganda channel whose name I won’t even type because I like furry woodland creatures? About as likely as it would be to hear a slug stand up at a podium and wax poetically about the wonder and virtues of the geese that ate its family. Mr. Limbaugh, the rest of hate radio, and the network which shall not be named thrive on fomenting hate, not peace.

Karl Marx

April 21st, 2010
9:59 am

Partisay, what Hillary said only applies to the left. If you’re from the right you cannot debate or disagree or you are called a hate monger from the hate filled left. Now you forgot to cover others mentioned in my post. Al Gore, Bill Ayers, and Rev Jeremiah Wright. You been to the fish market today? I prefer sea bass and please try t send it next day. Parcel post takes too long and the postman hates the smell, thanks.

David Smith

April 21st, 2010
10:12 am

It is not hard to find what Mr. Limbaugh and others of hate-wing radio were saying about the Waco debacle, likening it to “an invasion”, accusing the government of killing the kids, taking away freedoms, etc. Had Mr. Limbaugh understood that words matter, that there are people out there on his claimed side of the spectrum that are farther from center than he claims to be, who will respond to the unfounded claims he made and makes and allusions he made and makes, then he would be ashamed. He, who professes personal responsibility as a guiding principle, wants nothing to do with it when personal responsibility extends to accepting the consequences, particularly when that means accepting partial culpability in a major domestic terrorism act. Use your google, rather than your hate-wing blogs, to find the transcripts of what was said by the hate-wing (at the time radio) between 4/19/2003 and 4/19/2005. Compare what was said to the facts both in evidence at the time and what has been learned subsequently. Was Waco a debacle? Yes, without a doubt. What was the act which precipitated the escalation, though? Could it have been the killing of the ATF agents serving a lawful warrant? And what about those kids, killed by the followers (not the fire they started, thankfully)? Or the faithful followers killing those not quite as faithful (not willing to suicide), then killing themselves – that counts not a whit either, right? Mr. “Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying”, you are factually correct that he was disbarred for lying, and should have been, and was impeached for lying, and should have been, but fortunately wasn’t convicted on the articles given what happened with the economy after that, you demand people find proof. I found it easily, just searching 1993 limbaugh response to waco in google. And on another note, for future reference, DON’T TIE THE HANDS OF THE HRT BEHIND THEIR BACKS IF YOU WANT A FAVORABLE OUTCOME TO A HOSTAGE SITUATION. The job they have is incredibly hard, don’t make it impossible and then blame them when you do. THAT, to me, is the greatest tragedy, the one that resulted indirectly in the deaths of the kids before the fire. Had HRT been allowed to do their job, just like had our military in Vietnam been allowed to do theirs, the outcome would have been far different.

The Snark

April 21st, 2010
10:15 am

Bob, you have a lot to say about “irony,” and we totally get that you don’t like Clinton, but I can’t help but notice that you have nothing to say about the substance of his essay.

Whatever you may think of Clinton (and the Snark tries not to think of Clinton,) he made some important points. You can pooh-pooh them as a “time-worn theme employed by liberals” all you want. But there are a lot of non-liberal Americans (including the Snark) who are sick of the scortched earth rhetoric that the right wing has perfected since the early 1990s, and worry about the damage it has done to civil discourse in this country.

ExTeaPartyMember

April 21st, 2010
10:20 am

@Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying…I am living proof that MOST of the Tea Party members are racist…so thanks for trying to defend us but no thanks because ppl like you don’t want the truth to known which is: MOST TEA PARTY MEMBERS ARE RACIST. This is why I left the party. Try to spin that.

Not on my watch

April 21st, 2010
10:29 am

If you say any language incites violence, you are taking away the responsibility of that person. We make our own choices.

BTW, what Clinton said is not comparable to inciting violence.

Limbaugh can say all he wants, I “grew out” of listening to him when I grew a brain. I have never believed him to be an idealogue. I believe him to be all capitalist, ’cause he is swimming in the cash!

Tricky

April 21st, 2010
10:50 am

Wow Bob, still bitter? You got what you wanted, he was impeached, his popularity surged. Yours, not so much. Let it go.

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
10:55 am

“What makes you think there would be someone on the left standing there in that crowd videotaping anyway?”

Because John Lewis said it happened while he was being filmed………

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
10:56 am

“Mr. Limbaugh, the rest of hate radio, and the network which shall not be named thrive on fomenting hate, not peace.”

AGAIN! WHAT DID LIMBAUGH SAY TO MAKE MCVIEGH BLOW UP THE BUILDING????????????

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
10:57 am

“It is not hard to find what Mr. Limbaugh and others of hate-wing radio were saying about the Waco debacle, likening it to “an invasion”, accusing the government of killing the kids, taking away freedoms, etc.”

THEN PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF LIMBAUGH INSPIRING MCVEIGH TO BLOW UP THAT BUILDING.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
10:59 am

“I am living proof that MOST of the Tea Party members are racist…so thanks for trying to defend us but no thanks because ppl like you don’t want the truth to known which is: MOST TEA PARTY MEMBERS ARE RACIST. This is why I left the party. Try to spin that.”

1: Your comment makes absolutely no sense.
2: Prove that you’re an ex-tea party member.
3: Show PROOF, not rhetoric, that the tea party is racist.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:00 am

” BTW, what Clinton said is not comparable to inciting violence. ”

No, he is just responsible for the death of the people of Waco.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:01 am

“Whatever you may think of Clinton (and the Snark tries not to think of Clinton,) he made some important points.”

Clinton lied to America. Clinton was found guilty of lying to THE GRAND JURY and was disbarred. The man is a pathological liar who’s only legacy involves a cigar.

Operation Pink

April 21st, 2010
11:02 am

Remember when liberals praised Operation Pink for inciting violence against enlisting Marines…Wait sorry liberal media won’t doesn’t want people to remember that the the city of Berkley enable those thugs to physically deter volunteers from joining our armed forces by giving them the permits and “special parking spaces need to stop our brave young me.

Anti-Tea

April 21st, 2010
11:03 am

One other point what are the odds someone like the Oregon teacher are the ones slinging out racial slurs and other radical lingo at Tea Party rallies and then rushing a tape to the media to show how they are bad for our country. Stunt Journalism at its best…

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:04 am

“Remember when liberals praised Operation Pink for inciting violence against enlisting Marines”

Yep, I also posted “kill bush” signs that liberals ignore. Liberals also ignore a movie made about killing Bush.

Liberals are flat out retarded.

J Biden

April 21st, 2010
11:12 am

THis is a Big Effin Deal!!!

Jefferson

April 21st, 2010
11:26 am

Bob, you still hate him, now don’t you.

Steve

April 21st, 2010
11:29 am

Dear “Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying”:

If you feel such an intense need to litter an entire comment board with your fallacious piffle, perhaps you should consider writing your own online column somewhere. I’m sure there’s room on http://hillbillywhitetrash.blogspot.com/ P.S. Get a f***ing job.

retiredds

April 21st, 2010
11:32 am

Yeah, Bob, you’re right language is very important. Since you brought up the subject, as I recall, two or three of the Republicans who were on Clinton’s impeachment panel were divorced at least once, and the impeccable Newt Gingrich who was riding the high impeachment wagon of his peers, has been divorced just a few times and was in a dalliance while one of his wive’s (# 2, I think) was ill. At last count Bill Clinton is still married to his first and only wife. So language is important especially when it comes to claiming the moral high ground. The “moral” of the story is you better know not only who is using what language but for what purposes. It could happen, if you’re not careful, that one might just claim to be something they’re not. But, of course, the Republicans are the “family values” party and we should take them at their word because they tell us so, but, on the other hand, beware of their actions.

Hmmmmmmm

April 21st, 2010
11:32 am

Why even talk about ANYTHING that Bill Clinton does or says….. He has proven himself to be nothing more than a DISGRACE to the office he served….

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:52 am

“P.S. Get a f***ing job.”

LOL! You come on this blog, write a few comments, and tell me to get a job?

Please do us a favor and get back to flipping burgers.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:54 am

“But, of course, the Republicans are the “family values” party and we should take them at their word because they tell us so, but, on the other hand, beware of their actions.”

Oh, you mean like John Edwards? He was telling America how he cherished his wife………….

Steve is a member of the KKK

April 21st, 2010
11:55 am

Da Souf will RISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!!!!!!!

Obama the liar MMMM MMM MMMM

April 21st, 2010
11:56 am

So is Obama going to return his campaign money to Sachs?

RF

April 21st, 2010
11:57 am

Free speech is a constitutional guarantee Bob- we get that. But even you must admit that it’s important to realize the effect of one’s words, especially when one keeps shouting those words. I have no problem with someone saying that the president is a socialist or that health care reform is going to create “death panels.” What I do have a problem with is shouting those words from a podium with the precise intent of angering a crowd and instilling fear and anxiety in many people. No one is trying to limit your right to say what you think, but is it really wrong to hold people accountable for what their words cause? Clinton is indeed a slick wordsmith. That’s why I even more firmly believe what he said about the need to realize the power our words have and that they fall on both “the connected and the unhinged…” What if Michelle Bachmann could realize that broadcasting that she wants Minnesotans “armed and dangerous” could be an invitation to the “unhinged” to do just that? How will she feel if she’s in her office when the “armed and dangerous” pick her building to attack? What if she had lost a relative in the Murrah building, the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, or on Flight 93? Would she be so gung-ho to have her constitutents armed and dangerous? Will she and Sister Sarah tone down the rhetoric when someone or some group dies at the hands of one of the “unhinged” who take their words literally?

Just as Clinton was tried for his crimes, those who lie and use their place at the microphone to create trouble should be called on to either face up to what their words cause or admit to the lies they’ve told. Noone wants to limit free speech- but even you surely realize that no freedom is absolute and cannot be used to justify a crime.

s

April 21st, 2010
12:03 pm

I for one give absolutely NO credence to anything that comes out of Mr. Clinton’s mouth, after all he does not even know what sex is!

Junior Samples

April 21st, 2010
12:35 pm

Who wants to play Scabble?

ExTeaPartyMember

April 21st, 2010
12:41 pm

BillClinton-you sound exactly like my friends and co-workers from the tea party……demanding proof of racism. No one will sign a document attesting to their racism. These are the kinds of “tricks” we used and are still employing apparently. From your posts you seem to be an individual that is belligerent, crass, and ignorant. I can’t believe I was member of a group that has classless ppl like you defending them. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE and btw, Steve was right about the likes of you so please go to http://hillbillywhitetrash.blogspot.com/ . Now, I’m going back to my cushy office job since my taxes have to pay for YOUR handouts. You’ve been on this blog all day…Wow, what a loser:(

Mrs.White&Black

April 21st, 2010
12:44 pm

Vote for the lesser of the 2 evils:Democrat.

Politicians are all slimy but a Republican will do more harm to our country than any Democrat will ever do.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

“BillClinton-you sound exactly like my friends and co-workers from the tea party……demanding proof of racism.”

Yeah, who wants proof? I mean, you guys go around accusing people of being racist. Who needs evidence when you can just lie!

“From your posts you seem to be an individual that is belligerent, crass, and ignorant.”

How so? Again with the name calling. What have I written that is any of the things you’ve called me?

“YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE”

LOL!!! And you are retarded.

“Now, I’m going back to my cushy office job since my taxes have to pay for YOUR handouts. ”

Not only are you stupid, but you are also a liar.

“You’ve been on this blog all day…Wow, what a loser:(”

And yet, you’re here. Pot meet kettle.

Byron Mathison Kerr

April 21st, 2010
1:00 pm

Bob, there’s just something downright disturbing about people taking firearms to political rallies. The fact that these are right-wingers and not left-wingers is something you may want to investigate further.

Paulo977

April 21st, 2010
1:06 pm

Saywhat
7:56am …of course and surely professional writers ought to know the difference between what is incitement to violence and criticism of an admininis tration …good grief take the example of Tancredo ’s incitement at a rally when a CHRISTIAN preacher had this to say’suitup,get my gun,go to Washington’!! I note the republican cheerleaders saw nothing ‘treasonous’in that!!

Fedup

April 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

OK…Republicans can have the land to the “right” of the Mississippi, and Dems can have all land “left” of the Mississippi….Libertarians can have Hawaii, and all others go to Alaska…..all would become separate nations and we’ll cut our losses and move forward….just a thought for a possible solution to the hate-filled diatribes that go on and on and on and on…..

Rockerbabe

April 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

saywhat: Here, here! Well made points.

The point President Clinton was making, is that when extremist do raise their ugly heads and spout off like tea pots, the Republicans and conservates say nothing to very little. And, when they do, it is usually in response to an outcry of indignation by some “more progressive conservative”, if such an animal even exists in today political climate.

JDW

April 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

LOL, Barr has been wrong and Clinton right for the last 20 years and some things will never change. As to the issue of language used by those on the right, feast on some of these goodies and then tell me they aren’t at least tacitly inciting violence:

“I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for.”- Rush Limbaugh

“Environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the Democrat Party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not Americans, never have been Americans, never will be Americans.”- Rep. Don Young (R-AK)

“Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.” – Rep. James Hansen (R-UT)

“We’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting Democrats with dogs.”- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.” – Ann Coulter

“We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.” – Ann Coulter

“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee” – Ann Coulter

“A great deal of good could be done by arresting Bill Keller (New York Times Editor) having him lined up against the wall and shot.” – Melanie Morgan

Let’s start with the following New York Times reporters and editors: Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger Jr. , Bill Keller, Eric Lichtblau, and James Risen. Do you have an idea where they live? Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous — grab for the golden ring. – The Political Insight”

Shark Punch!

April 21st, 2010
1:19 pm

When are the hard-line conservatives going to get over the fact that they failed to get Clinton thrown out to office? Honestly, don’t we have more immediate problems to think about?

Mrs.White&Black

April 21st, 2010
1:20 pm

@BillClinton-the poster noted that you have been on this blog since before 8am until now, which is a little weird, while he/she only posted a few(maybe only 2) comments. The way you responded to that poster just proved their points about you. Sorry, but true.

Rockerbabe

April 21st, 2010
1:21 pm

Kenneth Starr spent upwards of $50 million dollars trying to put President Clinton and First Lady Clinton out of office. Lying about an extramarital affair with an AK slutty wannabe is hardly the stuff of impeachment when one considers that Dubya LIED about getting this country into the Iraqi war. Now, Dubya should have been impeached, but I don’t think the Republicans thought much about all this lying to the American public. No, they “loved” Hilary Clinton so much, that they tried their best to get her husband removed from office! The offense was against Hiliary, not the public at large and NO ONE DIED AND PRESIDENT CLINTON DID NOT TAKE THIS COUNTRY TO THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY.

Thetruthhurts

April 21st, 2010
1:23 pm

@ Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying-Your vocabulary, “stupid”, “retarded” clearly shows everyone your level of intelligence, or lack thereof.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:24 pm

“@BillClinton-the poster noted that you have been on this blog since before 8am until now, which is a little weird, while he/she only posted a few(maybe only 2) comments. The way you responded to that poster just proved their points about you. Sorry, but true.”

LOL! Ok ma’am, whatever you say! So, he/she can call me names but I can’t return the favor?

By the way, I love how you totally ignored what he/she wrote about me.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:24 pm

“Your vocabulary, “stupid”, “retarded” clearly shows everyone your level of intelligence, or lack thereof.”

Oh my bad. Ok, try troglodyte and smegma……

Big enough words for ya?

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:25 pm

“clearly shows everyone your level of intelligence, or lack thereof.”

Notice how left wingers don’t argue the facts about Bill Clinton or left wing threats…..

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

Mrs.White&Black

April 21st, 2010
1:32 pm

@JDW-read your post and still reeling from it! I mean, both sides attack each other but wow! That’s BAD! And as I read it, it got worse! I can only hope the Dem’s. haven’t sunk as low as the Rep.’s with these kind of comments. I mean a comment here and there from both parties, fine but to constantly make comments like this is unbelievable, reprehensible, and disgusting.

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
1:35 pm

“I can only hope the Dem’s. haven’t sunk as low as the Rep.’s with these kind of comments.”

You must have slept through 2000-2008.

“I mean a comment here and there from both parties, fine but to constantly make comments like this is unbelievable, reprehensible, and disgusting.”

Hypocrite much?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 21st, 2010
1:35 pm

Until former President Scuzzball resurfaced I had forgotten the magnitude of his ego, mistakenly thinking our current misleader was the King of I. For all the leftist piety about the need to “unite Americans,” nobody has done more to divide the country than Bill and Barry Doofus, each a legend in his own mind. I am always grateful for leaders who do not believe it either necessary or desirable that Americans march lock-step according to the commands of their elected servants.

YesMa'am

April 21st, 2010
1:37 pm

@billclinton-why are you playing tit for tat with all the posters? I’m sorry to say but from reading your posts you seem like a very unpleasant individual just attacking everybody. I feel sorry for your family and everyone who knows you. Your mother should have raised you better than this, poor woman.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:43 pm

“why are you playing tit for tat with all the posters? ”

Better question: Why are you pretending to be different bloggers?

“I’m sorry to say but from reading your posts you seem like a very unpleasant individual just attacking everybody.”

You must be a blind person because I’ve been called many names by other left wingers.

“I feel sorry for your family and everyone who knows you.”

Oh, so let me get this straight. You say I’m an unpleasant person who attacks everyone and here you are……attacking me.

“Your mother should have raised you better than this, poor woman.”

Huh, now you’re bringing my mom into this? Oh now I get it. You’re a kindergartner. Makes so much sense now.

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama, BEND OVER, here comes the CHANGE!

April 21st, 2010
1:44 pm

Clinton lecturing us on anything other than Big Macs, cigars and oral sex is absurd.

Mrs. White&Black

April 21st, 2010
1:47 pm

@NO WE CAN’T!-there is no need to be rude and crass. If you had any upbringing, you simply would have posted a list of similar comments made by Dem.’s, to prove your point.

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
1:49 pm

“there is no need to be rude and crass.”

Explain please.

“If you had any upbringing, you simply would have posted a list of similar comments made by Dem.’s, to prove your point.”

There are plenty of examples above.

CLINTON CRITic

April 21st, 2010
1:50 pm

BOTH JIMMY CARTER & BILL CLINTON are now useful idiots in the DEMOCRAT PARTY….THEY TALK TO HEAR THEIR OWN VOICES…..

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
1:50 pm

“there is no need to be rude and crass.”

then

“If you had any upbringing”

Now who’s being rude?

Stick to the FACTS

April 21st, 2010
2:04 pm

I don’t suppose it would do any good to remind you that was not what President Clinton said. He said, “words have consequences as much as actions do.” Like yelling FIRE in a crowded room.

Right-winger media figures complaining about government programs that don’t benefit corporations or the idle rich are nothing new. It is the current demonizing that has raised the level of direct threats against IRS employees, Census workers, U.S. Congressmen, if fact government employees at all levels.

Bob – your headline said us?

Do you include yourself with the Hutaree militia who planned the mass murder of police officers?

Are you with the yahoo who threatened to fire his wife’s shotgun at a United States Census worker?

What about the half-term governor who uses crosshairs from a rifle scope to identify Democrats as targets on her website?

Minutemen leader Mike Vanderboegh, who is so paranoid of a federal trail he told the gun-toting crowds in Alexandria, VA last weekend he had the “right to an unfair gunfight”. Not to bail, not to a speedy trail, not a jury of his peers, not even a lawyer, he just wanted a gunfight with federal authorities.

Sounds pretty sounds like yell fire in a crowded room!

Grissle McThornbody

April 21st, 2010
2:12 pm

“Do you include yourself with the Hutaree militia who planned the mass murder of police officers?”

IS that the best ya got?

The guy who crashed his plane into the IRS building was an avowed commie who hated capitalism.

“Are you with the yahoo who threatened to fire his wife’s shotgun at a United States Census worker?”

HUH?

“What about the half-term governor who uses crosshairs from a rifle scope to identify Democrats as targets on her website?”

Better questions:

Are you with the teachers unions who sent Chris Cristie death threats?

Are you with the UniBomber, an Al Gore supporter, who blew up innocent people?

Are you with the college professor, an avowed commie and B.O. supporter who shot her co-workers?

Are you with the left wing war protesters who want to kill Bush?

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
2:14 pm

YouAreUnCivil

April 21st, 2010
8:54 am
Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:26 am

Here is something that stood out:

The Sarah Palin website with the rifle crosshairs (targets) on Democrats is as close to inciting violence, without using actual words. When you point a gun and the target is (within sight), the expectation is to hit that target and take them down.

Where is the “gun” on Palin’s website? Ther is no weapon, and targeting is used in marketing, sales and business all the time.

You’re tilting at windmills, HardlyCivil.

Mrs. White&Black

April 21st, 2010
2:14 pm

No we can’t-I give what I get, sweetie:)

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:15 pm

Bob Barr,

Exteapartymember just told me to die. I consider that a threat and I hope you take her comments seriously. Left wingers are full of hate and she has just given us all a taste of what they are really all about.

Shame on the left wingers.

Bob Barr needs to ban exteapartymember

April 21st, 2010
2:19 pm

exteapartymember is a threat to society. He needs help fast.

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
2:23 pm

Byron Mathison Kerr

April 21st, 2010
1:00 pm
Bob, there’s just something downright disturbing about people taking firearms to political rallies. The fact that these are right-wingers and not left-wingers is something you may want to investigate further.

Well, I would hope that limp-wristed lefties do not take weapons anywhere, as they have no knowledge of their use. This same group claims that guns are resposible for murders. Like spoons are responsible for Rosie O’Donut being fat.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:24 pm

“Well, I would hope that limp-wristed lefties do not take weapons anywhere, as they have no knowledge of their use.”

Left wingers are only good at shooting off their mouths.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:25 pm

“Like spoons are responsible for Rosie O’Donut being fat.”

Or Hillary Clinton, Barney Frank, Michael Moore…….

Algonquin J. Calhoun

April 21st, 2010
2:31 pm

Well well, I hear the kettle whistlin’. Bob, you cheated on your second wife with the woman who became your third wife. You dumped Gail when she was ill with cancer. You and Newt! You helped spend millions of dollars trying to force Clinton from office for behavior you have engaged in. You’re a hypocrite of the first order and can’t even tell the truth about your own ethnicity. You should be proud of your blackness and not try to hide it. William Jefferson Clinton had his faults but he was something you will never be, President of the United States.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:34 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun is a perfect example of how stupid left wingers really are.

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
2:35 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun

April 21st, 2010
2:31 pm
You helped spend millions of dollars trying to force Clinton from office for behavior you have engaged in

When did Bob Barr lie under oath?

exteapartymember

April 21st, 2010
2:46 pm

Unlike you losers(Billclinton), I have a real job in corporate America that I must get back to so that you freeloaders can get your handouts. In case you dummies didn’t see it the first time, I am a Republican and I’m honest enough to admit both us and the Dem’s are hypocrites, the fact that you(no we can’t) can’t admit the truth shows that YOU are the only hypocrite here and have No Credibility whatsoever. Yes, I am more credible than YOU. Like I said, Unlike you freeloaders I have a real job and life to get back to:)

Gator Joe

April 21st, 2010
2:48 pm

Mr. Barr:
Do you really equate Clinton’s obfuscation with the inflamatory, often violent, language coming from the Tea party rallies, the militia, and the extreme right wing? They have right to protest, and say what they wish (we all know the exceptions), but you don’t have to justify language like “take our country back,” “gangster government” or “you should be armed and dangerous!” I believe your beloved President Reagan created the slippery slope with, “government is the problem” which eventually brought us to the rhetoric and actions of the Right wing today.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:50 pm

“Unlike you losers(Billclinton), I have a real job in corporate America that I must get back to so that you freeloaders can get your handouts.”

LOL!!! So does your “company” know that you go on blogs and tell people to eat $hit and die?

“I am a Republican and I’m honest enough to admit both us and the Dem’s are hypocrites”

Uh huh, and I’m a left wing democrat commie. Moron.

“can’t admit the truth shows that YOU are the only hypocrite here and have No Credibility whatsoever.”

This coming from a gal who tells people to die? Right.

“Yes, I am more credible than YOU.”

That line makes absolutely no sense. But neither do you.

“Unlike you freeloaders I have a real job and life to get back to”

How’s your mom’s basement working out for you?

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:52 pm

“which eventually brought us to the rhetoric and actions of the Right wing today.”

What actions and rhetoric? You left wingers are nothing but a bunch of hypocritical liars. Case in point: exteaparty member who told me to eat $hit and die.

Gator Joe couldn't pass kindergarten

April 21st, 2010
2:56 pm

It’s true, I could not. :(

Stick to the FACTS

April 21st, 2010
3:27 pm

You Clinton haters must cry yourself to sleep every night.

Newt, Bob Barr and Ken Star spend $60 million dollars of taxpayer money, wasted 5 years of the FBI time, forced witnesses to commit perjury and all they could come up with was lying about a BJ.

I agree with exteapartymember!

Come on admit you’re made because Bill was with a girl, you’re not in corporate America making six-figures, you’re in the freshman dorm typing real fast with one hand.

Mrs. White&Black

April 21st, 2010
3:28 pm

@Calhoun-couldn’t have said it better myself. That’s what happens when kids use their parents computers and try to pretend they are intelligent adults.
@billclinton-considering your posts, you deserve everything that has come your way. Grow up.

Mrs. White&Black

April 21st, 2010
3:33 pm

@sticktothefacts-HILARIOUS post…you just made my day and………..it’s my Birthday! I’ve gotta leave this blog now before I let the negativity get to me and enjoy this day!.”..typing real fast with one hand”lololololol….Adios people!

yeswecan

April 21st, 2010
3:36 pm

BTW Bill Clinton-at least the tea party member was honest enough to admit it, unlike you.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
3:37 pm

“BTW Bill Clinton-at least the tea party member was honest enough to admit it, unlike you.”

Admit that she is a racist troglodyte?

Home School Dropout

April 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

While we are Dissing President Clinton. I would like to say that I miss his sixty nine cents a gallon gasoline. The two percent unemployment. The Low Interest rates;

The Tar and Feathers Party

April 21st, 2010
5:59 pm

Zipper boy has no credibility with anyone these days. Clinton is ancient history, of no importance whatsoever.

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Stick to the FACTS

April 21st, 2010
3:27 pm

Newt, Bob Barr and Ken Star spend $60 million dollars of taxpayer money, wasted 5 years of the FBI time, forced witnesses to commit perjury and all they could come up with was lying about a BJ.

How much money did Lawrence Walsh spend on Iran-Contra? How long did it take, and what, if any, objective gains came as a result of the investigation?

Exactly how do you “force a witness to commit perjury?”

Lied under oath. The Nation’s Number One Law Enforcement Officer, also a lawyer.

saywhat?

April 21st, 2010
6:04 pm

Hey Congressman Barr, let’s just ignore all the killings that took place the last two years (Berkeley California, a church in Kentucky (I think)and Pennsylvania come to mind) where the perpetrators parroted the exact same idiotic rhetoric being spewed over the airwaves/vomited onto paper by the right wing media noise machine. Perhaps we can discount the memo from the Bush administration re: veterans susceptible to recruitment by right wing radicals too.Specific to Oklahoma City, let’s pretend it was never preluded by the right repeatedly referring to American government workers as “jack-booted thugs”.

If we bury our heads in the sand, shut our eyes tight, cover our ears, shout “la la la la” very loudly and use our imaginations really, really hard, and picture a place where 24/7 media bombardment of right wing crazy talk by supposedly “mainstream” authority figures will have no effect on their fans and supporters, THEN we can all agree with you that President Clinton made a baseless observation. Until then, not so much.

Gerald West

April 21st, 2010
6:18 pm

Clinton was lecturing us on domestic terrorism; and he’s dead right! Just look at history: the rise of Nazism started with a charismatic leader spouting lies and stirring hatred toward minorities.

Does a little hanky-panky with the office trollope cloud one’s experience, damage one’s character, or invalidate one’s judgment? I doubt it! It sure does get one in trouble with one’s wife.

Clinton will go down in history as the President who presided over the most prosperous period in American history. Anyone who doesn’t long for a return to Clinton-era prosperity over Reagan-era false dawns and Bush-era economic disasters is a fool!

RF

April 21st, 2010
8:41 pm

Gerald- my point exactly. It’s easy to bring up his past and attack his character over a sexual affair as “proof” of his lack of credibility. In all the shouting about it, the hecklers, as usual, miss the very obvious fact that pointing out his word skills in the impeachment hearings only proves that he clearly knows how powerful words can be. Ridiculing his past does little more than provide a momentary distraction from the very clear truth he stated which needs to be heard and understood. And I hope the extremists on both sides will hear him.

Acer706

April 21st, 2010
11:05 pm

Non-issue.

We have a right to voice (not act) in this country as of… 200 years ago. Partiers, Gays, Black, White, Clinton, Orange…. WHATEVER! The recognition that individuals have come together to create should make us proud. Whether you agree or not… Tuff. Don’t listen, speak against or whine to yourself.

Also, we do not stereotype. Pointing a finger is weak. We do not link Pres. Obama to the D.C. sniper bc of their backgrounds, I know that Tea-Partiers are not violent for simply speaking out, and I know that President Clinton fancies interns and gets impeached…. not all Democratic presidents.

LJ

April 22nd, 2010
8:00 am

“Bob, there’s just something downright disturbing about people taking firearms to political rallies. The fact that these are right-wingers and not left-wingers is something you may want to investigate further.”

Really? I’ve never seen it as disturbing. What is radical or disturbing about assembling peacefully, speaking freely, and bearing arms?

Eric

April 22nd, 2010
9:28 am

Why don’t you just admit that you were a moron for your role in the Clinton Crucifixion. And then shut up.

No More Progressives!

April 22nd, 2010
12:02 pm

Eric

April 22nd, 2010
9:28 am
Why don’t you just admit that you were a moron for your role in the Clinton Crucifixion. And then shut up.

You clearly have a lot to offer.