Bill (”The Meaning Of Is”) Clinton lectures us on language

Sometimes the ironies that manifest themselves in the behavior of current and former government officials are just too delicious to ignore.  Thus it is with remarks made last Friday by former President Bill Clinton.  Appearing before the Center for American Progress Action Fund in the nation’s capital, the former president echoed the time-worn theme employed regularly by liberals, that when “conservatives” publicly criticize the government they indirectly encourage exremist violence, such as that perpetrated by Timothy McVeigh in blowing up the Oklahoma City federal building 15 years ago this week.  Clinton, as do other critics of conservatives who argue against the big government programs liberals so love, try to blunt their criticism by claiming that they are not trying to “restrict free speech”; but that’s precisely what they are subtly trying to do by linking conservatives to violent extremists such as McVeigh.

The special irony in the case of Clinton lies in the fact that a dozen years ago, during the impeachment proceedings against him, Clinton repeatedly and rather masterfully wordsmithed his way around admitting any wrondgoing; at one point famously declaring in answer to a simple question, that ”it depends on what the meaning of  the word ‘is,’ is.” 

Thus, when Clinton lectures conservatives on the words they use, they’re learning from the master of obfuscational wordsmithing himself, William Jefferson Clinton.

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Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:52 am

“P.S. Get a f***ing job.”

LOL! You come on this blog, write a few comments, and tell me to get a job?

Please do us a favor and get back to flipping burgers.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
11:54 am

“But, of course, the Republicans are the “family values” party and we should take them at their word because they tell us so, but, on the other hand, beware of their actions.”

Oh, you mean like John Edwards? He was telling America how he cherished his wife………….

Steve is a member of the KKK

April 21st, 2010
11:55 am

Da Souf will RISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!!!!!!!

Obama the liar MMMM MMM MMMM

April 21st, 2010
11:56 am

So is Obama going to return his campaign money to Sachs?

RF

April 21st, 2010
11:57 am

Free speech is a constitutional guarantee Bob- we get that. But even you must admit that it’s important to realize the effect of one’s words, especially when one keeps shouting those words. I have no problem with someone saying that the president is a socialist or that health care reform is going to create “death panels.” What I do have a problem with is shouting those words from a podium with the precise intent of angering a crowd and instilling fear and anxiety in many people. No one is trying to limit your right to say what you think, but is it really wrong to hold people accountable for what their words cause? Clinton is indeed a slick wordsmith. That’s why I even more firmly believe what he said about the need to realize the power our words have and that they fall on both “the connected and the unhinged…” What if Michelle Bachmann could realize that broadcasting that she wants Minnesotans “armed and dangerous” could be an invitation to the “unhinged” to do just that? How will she feel if she’s in her office when the “armed and dangerous” pick her building to attack? What if she had lost a relative in the Murrah building, the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, or on Flight 93? Would she be so gung-ho to have her constitutents armed and dangerous? Will she and Sister Sarah tone down the rhetoric when someone or some group dies at the hands of one of the “unhinged” who take their words literally?

Just as Clinton was tried for his crimes, those who lie and use their place at the microphone to create trouble should be called on to either face up to what their words cause or admit to the lies they’ve told. Noone wants to limit free speech- but even you surely realize that no freedom is absolute and cannot be used to justify a crime.

s

April 21st, 2010
12:03 pm

I for one give absolutely NO credence to anything that comes out of Mr. Clinton’s mouth, after all he does not even know what sex is!

Junior Samples

April 21st, 2010
12:35 pm

Who wants to play Scabble?

ExTeaPartyMember

April 21st, 2010
12:41 pm

BillClinton-you sound exactly like my friends and co-workers from the tea party……demanding proof of racism. No one will sign a document attesting to their racism. These are the kinds of “tricks” we used and are still employing apparently. From your posts you seem to be an individual that is belligerent, crass, and ignorant. I can’t believe I was member of a group that has classless ppl like you defending them. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE and btw, Steve was right about the likes of you so please go to http://hillbillywhitetrash.blogspot.com/ . Now, I’m going back to my cushy office job since my taxes have to pay for YOUR handouts. You’ve been on this blog all day…Wow, what a loser:(

Mrs.White&Black

April 21st, 2010
12:44 pm

Vote for the lesser of the 2 evils:Democrat.

Politicians are all slimy but a Republican will do more harm to our country than any Democrat will ever do.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

“BillClinton-you sound exactly like my friends and co-workers from the tea party……demanding proof of racism.”

Yeah, who wants proof? I mean, you guys go around accusing people of being racist. Who needs evidence when you can just lie!

“From your posts you seem to be an individual that is belligerent, crass, and ignorant.”

How so? Again with the name calling. What have I written that is any of the things you’ve called me?

“YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE”

LOL!!! And you are retarded.

“Now, I’m going back to my cushy office job since my taxes have to pay for YOUR handouts. ”

Not only are you stupid, but you are also a liar.

“You’ve been on this blog all day…Wow, what a loser:(”

And yet, you’re here. Pot meet kettle.

Byron Mathison Kerr

April 21st, 2010
1:00 pm

Bob, there’s just something downright disturbing about people taking firearms to political rallies. The fact that these are right-wingers and not left-wingers is something you may want to investigate further.

Paulo977

April 21st, 2010
1:06 pm

Saywhat
7:56am …of course and surely professional writers ought to know the difference between what is incitement to violence and criticism of an admininis tration …good grief take the example of Tancredo ’s incitement at a rally when a CHRISTIAN preacher had this to say’suitup,get my gun,go to Washington’!! I note the republican cheerleaders saw nothing ‘treasonous’in that!!

Fedup

April 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

OK…Republicans can have the land to the “right” of the Mississippi, and Dems can have all land “left” of the Mississippi….Libertarians can have Hawaii, and all others go to Alaska…..all would become separate nations and we’ll cut our losses and move forward….just a thought for a possible solution to the hate-filled diatribes that go on and on and on and on…..

Rockerbabe

April 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

saywhat: Here, here! Well made points.

The point President Clinton was making, is that when extremist do raise their ugly heads and spout off like tea pots, the Republicans and conservates say nothing to very little. And, when they do, it is usually in response to an outcry of indignation by some “more progressive conservative”, if such an animal even exists in today political climate.

JDW

April 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

LOL, Barr has been wrong and Clinton right for the last 20 years and some things will never change. As to the issue of language used by those on the right, feast on some of these goodies and then tell me they aren’t at least tacitly inciting violence:

“I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for.”- Rush Limbaugh

“Environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the Democrat Party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not Americans, never have been Americans, never will be Americans.”- Rep. Don Young (R-AK)

“Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.” – Rep. James Hansen (R-UT)

“We’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting Democrats with dogs.”- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.” – Ann Coulter

“We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.” – Ann Coulter

“We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens’ creme brulee” – Ann Coulter

“A great deal of good could be done by arresting Bill Keller (New York Times Editor) having him lined up against the wall and shot.” – Melanie Morgan

Let’s start with the following New York Times reporters and editors: Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger Jr. , Bill Keller, Eric Lichtblau, and James Risen. Do you have an idea where they live? Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous — grab for the golden ring. – The Political Insight”

Shark Punch!

April 21st, 2010
1:19 pm

When are the hard-line conservatives going to get over the fact that they failed to get Clinton thrown out to office? Honestly, don’t we have more immediate problems to think about?

Mrs.White&Black

April 21st, 2010
1:20 pm

@BillClinton-the poster noted that you have been on this blog since before 8am until now, which is a little weird, while he/she only posted a few(maybe only 2) comments. The way you responded to that poster just proved their points about you. Sorry, but true.

Rockerbabe

April 21st, 2010
1:21 pm

Kenneth Starr spent upwards of $50 million dollars trying to put President Clinton and First Lady Clinton out of office. Lying about an extramarital affair with an AK slutty wannabe is hardly the stuff of impeachment when one considers that Dubya LIED about getting this country into the Iraqi war. Now, Dubya should have been impeached, but I don’t think the Republicans thought much about all this lying to the American public. No, they “loved” Hilary Clinton so much, that they tried their best to get her husband removed from office! The offense was against Hiliary, not the public at large and NO ONE DIED AND PRESIDENT CLINTON DID NOT TAKE THIS COUNTRY TO THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY.

Thetruthhurts

April 21st, 2010
1:23 pm

@ Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying-Your vocabulary, “stupid”, “retarded” clearly shows everyone your level of intelligence, or lack thereof.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:24 pm

“@BillClinton-the poster noted that you have been on this blog since before 8am until now, which is a little weird, while he/she only posted a few(maybe only 2) comments. The way you responded to that poster just proved their points about you. Sorry, but true.”

LOL! Ok ma’am, whatever you say! So, he/she can call me names but I can’t return the favor?

By the way, I love how you totally ignored what he/she wrote about me.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:24 pm

“Your vocabulary, “stupid”, “retarded” clearly shows everyone your level of intelligence, or lack thereof.”

Oh my bad. Ok, try troglodyte and smegma……

Big enough words for ya?

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:25 pm

“clearly shows everyone your level of intelligence, or lack thereof.”

Notice how left wingers don’t argue the facts about Bill Clinton or left wing threats…..

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

Mrs.White&Black

April 21st, 2010
1:32 pm

@JDW-read your post and still reeling from it! I mean, both sides attack each other but wow! That’s BAD! And as I read it, it got worse! I can only hope the Dem’s. haven’t sunk as low as the Rep.’s with these kind of comments. I mean a comment here and there from both parties, fine but to constantly make comments like this is unbelievable, reprehensible, and disgusting.

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
1:35 pm

“I can only hope the Dem’s. haven’t sunk as low as the Rep.’s with these kind of comments.”

You must have slept through 2000-2008.

“I mean a comment here and there from both parties, fine but to constantly make comments like this is unbelievable, reprehensible, and disgusting.”

Hypocrite much?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 21st, 2010
1:35 pm

Until former President Scuzzball resurfaced I had forgotten the magnitude of his ego, mistakenly thinking our current misleader was the King of I. For all the leftist piety about the need to “unite Americans,” nobody has done more to divide the country than Bill and Barry Doofus, each a legend in his own mind. I am always grateful for leaders who do not believe it either necessary or desirable that Americans march lock-step according to the commands of their elected servants.

YesMa'am

April 21st, 2010
1:37 pm

@billclinton-why are you playing tit for tat with all the posters? I’m sorry to say but from reading your posts you seem like a very unpleasant individual just attacking everybody. I feel sorry for your family and everyone who knows you. Your mother should have raised you better than this, poor woman.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
1:43 pm

“why are you playing tit for tat with all the posters? ”

Better question: Why are you pretending to be different bloggers?

“I’m sorry to say but from reading your posts you seem like a very unpleasant individual just attacking everybody.”

You must be a blind person because I’ve been called many names by other left wingers.

“I feel sorry for your family and everyone who knows you.”

Oh, so let me get this straight. You say I’m an unpleasant person who attacks everyone and here you are……attacking me.

“Your mother should have raised you better than this, poor woman.”

Huh, now you’re bringing my mom into this? Oh now I get it. You’re a kindergartner. Makes so much sense now.

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama, BEND OVER, here comes the CHANGE!

April 21st, 2010
1:44 pm

Clinton lecturing us on anything other than Big Macs, cigars and oral sex is absurd.

Mrs. White&Black

April 21st, 2010
1:47 pm

@NO WE CAN’T!-there is no need to be rude and crass. If you had any upbringing, you simply would have posted a list of similar comments made by Dem.’s, to prove your point.

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
1:49 pm

“there is no need to be rude and crass.”

Explain please.

“If you had any upbringing, you simply would have posted a list of similar comments made by Dem.’s, to prove your point.”

There are plenty of examples above.

CLINTON CRITic

April 21st, 2010
1:50 pm

BOTH JIMMY CARTER & BILL CLINTON are now useful idiots in the DEMOCRAT PARTY….THEY TALK TO HEAR THEIR OWN VOICES…..

NO WE CAN'T!

April 21st, 2010
1:50 pm

“there is no need to be rude and crass.”

then

“If you had any upbringing”

Now who’s being rude?

Stick to the FACTS

April 21st, 2010
2:04 pm

I don’t suppose it would do any good to remind you that was not what President Clinton said. He said, “words have consequences as much as actions do.” Like yelling FIRE in a crowded room.

Right-winger media figures complaining about government programs that don’t benefit corporations or the idle rich are nothing new. It is the current demonizing that has raised the level of direct threats against IRS employees, Census workers, U.S. Congressmen, if fact government employees at all levels.

Bob – your headline said us?

Do you include yourself with the Hutaree militia who planned the mass murder of police officers?

Are you with the yahoo who threatened to fire his wife’s shotgun at a United States Census worker?

What about the half-term governor who uses crosshairs from a rifle scope to identify Democrats as targets on her website?

Minutemen leader Mike Vanderboegh, who is so paranoid of a federal trail he told the gun-toting crowds in Alexandria, VA last weekend he had the “right to an unfair gunfight”. Not to bail, not to a speedy trail, not a jury of his peers, not even a lawyer, he just wanted a gunfight with federal authorities.

Sounds pretty sounds like yell fire in a crowded room!

Grissle McThornbody

April 21st, 2010
2:12 pm

“Do you include yourself with the Hutaree militia who planned the mass murder of police officers?”

IS that the best ya got?

The guy who crashed his plane into the IRS building was an avowed commie who hated capitalism.

“Are you with the yahoo who threatened to fire his wife’s shotgun at a United States Census worker?”

HUH?

“What about the half-term governor who uses crosshairs from a rifle scope to identify Democrats as targets on her website?”

Better questions:

Are you with the teachers unions who sent Chris Cristie death threats?

Are you with the UniBomber, an Al Gore supporter, who blew up innocent people?

Are you with the college professor, an avowed commie and B.O. supporter who shot her co-workers?

Are you with the left wing war protesters who want to kill Bush?

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
2:14 pm

YouAreUnCivil

April 21st, 2010
8:54 am
Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
8:26 am

Here is something that stood out:

The Sarah Palin website with the rifle crosshairs (targets) on Democrats is as close to inciting violence, without using actual words. When you point a gun and the target is (within sight), the expectation is to hit that target and take them down.

Where is the “gun” on Palin’s website? Ther is no weapon, and targeting is used in marketing, sales and business all the time.

You’re tilting at windmills, HardlyCivil.

Mrs. White&Black

April 21st, 2010
2:14 pm

No we can’t-I give what I get, sweetie:)

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:15 pm

Bob Barr,

Exteapartymember just told me to die. I consider that a threat and I hope you take her comments seriously. Left wingers are full of hate and she has just given us all a taste of what they are really all about.

Shame on the left wingers.

Bob Barr needs to ban exteapartymember

April 21st, 2010
2:19 pm

exteapartymember is a threat to society. He needs help fast.

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
2:23 pm

Byron Mathison Kerr

April 21st, 2010
1:00 pm
Bob, there’s just something downright disturbing about people taking firearms to political rallies. The fact that these are right-wingers and not left-wingers is something you may want to investigate further.

Well, I would hope that limp-wristed lefties do not take weapons anywhere, as they have no knowledge of their use. This same group claims that guns are resposible for murders. Like spoons are responsible for Rosie O’Donut being fat.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:24 pm

“Well, I would hope that limp-wristed lefties do not take weapons anywhere, as they have no knowledge of their use.”

Left wingers are only good at shooting off their mouths.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:25 pm

“Like spoons are responsible for Rosie O’Donut being fat.”

Or Hillary Clinton, Barney Frank, Michael Moore…….

Algonquin J. Calhoun

April 21st, 2010
2:31 pm

Well well, I hear the kettle whistlin’. Bob, you cheated on your second wife with the woman who became your third wife. You dumped Gail when she was ill with cancer. You and Newt! You helped spend millions of dollars trying to force Clinton from office for behavior you have engaged in. You’re a hypocrite of the first order and can’t even tell the truth about your own ethnicity. You should be proud of your blackness and not try to hide it. William Jefferson Clinton had his faults but he was something you will never be, President of the United States.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:34 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun is a perfect example of how stupid left wingers really are.

No More Progressives!

April 21st, 2010
2:35 pm

Algonquin J. Calhoun

April 21st, 2010
2:31 pm
You helped spend millions of dollars trying to force Clinton from office for behavior you have engaged in

When did Bob Barr lie under oath?

exteapartymember

April 21st, 2010
2:46 pm

Unlike you losers(Billclinton), I have a real job in corporate America that I must get back to so that you freeloaders can get your handouts. In case you dummies didn’t see it the first time, I am a Republican and I’m honest enough to admit both us and the Dem’s are hypocrites, the fact that you(no we can’t) can’t admit the truth shows that YOU are the only hypocrite here and have No Credibility whatsoever. Yes, I am more credible than YOU. Like I said, Unlike you freeloaders I have a real job and life to get back to:)

Gator Joe

April 21st, 2010
2:48 pm

Mr. Barr:
Do you really equate Clinton’s obfuscation with the inflamatory, often violent, language coming from the Tea party rallies, the militia, and the extreme right wing? They have right to protest, and say what they wish (we all know the exceptions), but you don’t have to justify language like “take our country back,” “gangster government” or “you should be armed and dangerous!” I believe your beloved President Reagan created the slippery slope with, “government is the problem” which eventually brought us to the rhetoric and actions of the Right wing today.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:50 pm

“Unlike you losers(Billclinton), I have a real job in corporate America that I must get back to so that you freeloaders can get your handouts.”

LOL!!! So does your “company” know that you go on blogs and tell people to eat $hit and die?

“I am a Republican and I’m honest enough to admit both us and the Dem’s are hypocrites”

Uh huh, and I’m a left wing democrat commie. Moron.

“can’t admit the truth shows that YOU are the only hypocrite here and have No Credibility whatsoever.”

This coming from a gal who tells people to die? Right.

“Yes, I am more credible than YOU.”

That line makes absolutely no sense. But neither do you.

“Unlike you freeloaders I have a real job and life to get back to”

How’s your mom’s basement working out for you?

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying

April 21st, 2010
2:52 pm

“which eventually brought us to the rhetoric and actions of the Right wing today.”

What actions and rhetoric? You left wingers are nothing but a bunch of hypocritical liars. Case in point: exteaparty member who told me to eat $hit and die.

Gator Joe couldn't pass kindergarten

April 21st, 2010
2:56 pm

It’s true, I could not. :(