Anti-gun lunacy continues

We ought to be used to the stories by now — “Student suspended for toy gun”; “Boy Scout tool nets student suspension”; “Tweety Bird key chain cause for expulsion.”  Still, when we read of a fourth grade student being hauled into a school prinicipal’s office because his LEGO policeman figure is carrying a two-inch long plastic rifle, it is hard to resist the urge to pull at one’s hair in reaction to the sheer idiocacy of the adults who do such things.  This latest example of a grown-up appearing to be a simpleton in front of a child, took place at Public School 52 in Staten Island, NY. 

According to a spokesman for the school system, Principal Evelyn Matroianni was simply following the Staten Island school system’s “no tolerance” policy that prohibits all “weapons” at the school, when she hauled the 9-year old into her office and called his parents. 

Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary defines a “weapon” to be “something (as a club, knife, or gun) used to injure, defeat, or destroy.”  Now, I know we have become in many respects a people afraid of our own shadows, but if Ms. Matroianni considers that a two-inch long plastic rifle held by a three-inch tall LEGO police figure will “injure, defeat, or destroy” someone or something, then this is definitely not the sort of adult I would want teaching my children or grandchildren anything.  This is a person so afraid of the world around her that she probably leaves her bedroom light on at night to help scare away the boogey man hiding under her bed.  Perhaps she holds down a second job at TSA.

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Mrs. Norris

February 13th, 2010
6:39 pm

I love the remark about the TSA Bob. That was hysterical, and honorable mention to Gaboomer for the administrator crack. I have really enjoyed reading today’s comments. I find it quite amusing that so many people don’t get puns and sarcasm and don’t recognize fake names meant to insult the real person. Quite amusing. Thanks.

C. Heston

February 13th, 2010
6:58 pm

They don’t call it the Colt Peacekeeper for nothing and kudos to the electrician that shot that thug. Be a little quicker boy and maybe next time you won’t let any get away.

LT

February 14th, 2010
1:19 am

With public schools like that they should give everybody there tax money back and so parents can send their kids to whatever school they choose. By doing this your family’s beliefs would be in line with the school of your choosing. These school teachers work for the people just as politicians do and should honor everyone’s free choice. That’s freedom. In line with that people should be able to buy guns if they so choose as long as they are not breaking the law. It’s called freedom and the US Constitution spells it out. Government only exists to protect people’s rights and should not punish them if they are not hurting anyone. So who exactly did this kid hurt? The parents should sue and the administrators should pay out of their own pockets not the taxpayers.

Safe Guns

February 14th, 2010
6:33 am

Mrs Norris, don’t be amused. People do get the fake names meant to insult the real person. The replies that amuse you are coming from the same person who wrote the fake name. They are replying to themselves, pretending to be someone who didn’t get the sarcasm or the insult.

That’s what all blogs devolve into: a hanful of trolls posting hundreds of comments TO THEMSELVES.

Welcome the the AJC online.

schmed

February 14th, 2010
9:00 am

John F. Kennedy was an NRA member

Hank Williams Jr.

February 14th, 2010
9:26 am

I got a shotgun a rifle and a 4 wheel drive, a COUNTRY BOY can survive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Second Amendment

February 14th, 2010
12:19 pm

Dear Too Many Guns, your are right. You must read (AND UNDERSTAND) the entire 2nd Amendment: ”A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” the define militia; a military force composed of ordinary citizens. Then put it all together. It’s about the rights of the PEOPLE. All of the Amendments are about the rights of the PEOPLE. It’s about a FREE STATE not government control. The 2nd Amendment protects all other Amendments.

Clint

February 14th, 2010
2:24 pm

Hmmm. That really makes me mad. I wrote a pretty good comment yesterday but it never got posted. Anyways, the jist of it was… Besides all of the facts being stated about Our inherent, inalienable Rights to Freedom, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, the reason for Zero Tolerance is because somewhere in Our American history people have lost the concept of being responsible and accountable. I wonder how many kids that come from a household that has a firearm of some sort and has never had the parent(s) sit down with them and fully discuss the tantamount obligation they have to respect how lethal and dangerous a gun can be. If you buy a firearm, for whatever reason, you dang well better own up to the fact that it is YOUR obligation and responsibility to teach others in your household how to properly and safely handle it. If you can’t find the time to do this then you have no business what-so-ever having possession of such a thing. In that matter, I am refering to both a gun and a family. Your an adult. Leather up and take responsibility for your actions. Seeing a gun when I was a kid was second nature to me. They were never disassembled, locked away and completely useless. There was always one near by, just in case. Even though I was taught an an early age how to properly and safely handle one, I knew perfectly well not to touch or go near any of them unless there was adult supervision or else I got my butt busted, unless something happened and I absolutely needed to use this tool. Which brings me back to the whole accountablility discussion. Anyone I knew or was around that had a gun never lamented to instruct me on practicing being safe. Get rid of the ever-present, over-reaching Government and all of the stupid, nonsensicle “Nanny” laws and regulations and start taking full credibility for yourself and your actions.

Clint

February 14th, 2010
2:27 pm

Hey Bocephus….Don’t forge tthe Beechnut.

LT

February 14th, 2010
2:39 pm

It’s not that are too many guns out there it’s there are too many idiots! I’ve been around guns since I was eight. When my kids were old enough I took them to my local target range and taught them how to shoot them, clean them and about the seriousness of guns. They now respect guns and even though mine are looked up except for the one that’s hiding in case of unwanted intruders they wouldn’t just play with any of them like they are toys. we don’t have a gun problem in this country we have a social problem. People need to parent and teach their kids.

Ronin

February 14th, 2010
3:44 pm

do we even know if the toy rifle was on safe with a round in the chamber? teacher is a quack

NRA_Member

February 14th, 2010
5:36 pm

Ted Nugent says it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHtw6WbbnM

Who on are earth could successfully debate his arguement.

Hank Williams Jr.

February 14th, 2010
6:12 pm

I’D LIKE TO SPIT SOME BEECHNUT IN THAT DUDES EYES AND SHOOT HIM WITH MY OL 45 , CAUSE A COUNTRY BOY CAN SURVIVE !!

HOW BOUT THAT CLINT……..
AND THANKS FOR REPLYING…..

Graywolf

February 15th, 2010
12:09 pm

What’s next. Is that school system going to sue LEGGO for manufacturing guns without the required federal and state permits? You cold snap that little piece of plastic into with the fingers of one hand. Tell me—what kind of “weapon” is that? A pencil is a much more dangerous as a weapon, as are many other school items.

Oldshooter

February 15th, 2010
3:07 pm

Everyone here seems to be reading ths event as simply a stupid and rule-bound adminstration that can’t get beyond an overly rigid interpretation of the rules. I would submit to you (and if you think I’m gettng paranoid, go talk to your child’s school teacher or principal about how they feel, and what they teach, about guns) that this is not an administration too stupid to interpret the rules rationally, but rather an extremely anti-gun principal who wants to indoctrinate (read brainwash) her middle school students to believe that ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS BAD. This is far more likely than the proposition that she is too ignorant or illogical to interpret the school district’s policy manual in the intended manner. She didn’t become the Principal by being stupid, but by correctly reading and following the political winds blowing through the school district. I’ll bet she would have responded in exactly the same manner if she saw a student draw a picture of a gun in art class. Maybe someone ought to ask her.

Darrell Patton

February 15th, 2010
3:20 pm

RE: To Many Guns comments. Did you know there are too many cars? I think they should all be taken away from everybody be forced onto public transportation. No more drunk drivers, hit & runs or whatever.
Peaceful

Clint

February 15th, 2010
5:36 pm

That’s even better than the original lyrics, Hank Jr. Even reminds me of Josey Wales.

Clint

February 15th, 2010
5:47 pm

Heck, Ted Nugent gets it, why can’t the rest of America get it.

I wonder if We could persuade The Nuge to run for President? Clone him and that would be the Vice President. His wife could be Secretary of State. Clone her and get the Chief of Staff. How’s about Chuck Norris for Attorney General. Clone him and you’ve got the head of the Department of Defense.

James in Darkest Arkansas

February 15th, 2010
6:08 pm

Well Regulated Militia. Well, back in the Founder’s Day, ‘well regulated’
meant ‘well equipped’ as in “regular army’ who were equipped by the State,
not that they were an army that had regular bowel movements. So, the
‘militia’ must have access to weapons suitable for use in emergencies. So,
their right to keep and bear arms was not to be infringed, as the State did’
not equip them. You need to read the articles in light of what they meant back then.

Randall Dunning

February 15th, 2010
8:02 pm

Hats back on gentlemen, the woman is stuck on stupid. What we need in the modern USA is a zero tolerance policy for anti-gun idiocy. Since when do we have to suffer such foolishness gladly?

Not surprised

February 15th, 2010
11:58 pm

To Lief Rakur: The issue can be danced around, but why avoid the “PLACED #2 IN THE FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS” – an Amendment limiting personal freedom and giving it to the State (militia) while the others check the power of the federal government? And why do you ignore the real of issue of those who whould tell others HOW, WHEN, WHERE, AND “IF” they can defend themselves? And finally unless you agree the the right of self-defense/preservation is an inherent, God-given instinct that pre-dates and supercedes any form of government then you support tyranny over liberty and common sense and fall into the “can’t change the mind of a fool” category. And maybe you should do a little more reading of the Founding Fathers’ statements so you can see the forest for the trees. I LOVE REPLIES/REBUTAL TO SELECTED POINTS WHILE PRACTICING SELECTED OMISSION/IGNORING OF OTHERS. Actions of a true liberal, academic or an attorney.

Not surprised

February 16th, 2010
12:35 am

Apolgies; failed to acknowledge your interpretion of the 2nd Amendment. It is written in plain English, AND “IS” BASED UPON THE PREVAILING THINKING at that time, and it would likely be safe to say, agreed upon by the majority of scholars who take an even wider view (historically) leading up to the Revolution. It means what it says – - – unless you are one of those of the mindset of “it depends upon the definition of ‘IS’”. And actually the whole issue is not really about the 2nd Amendment per se but of the common sense statements previously enumerated. Your view (unexplained) as to the placement of the 2nd Amendment as you interpret it flies in the face of any logic. Sorry, but you would have been on the side of the Tories, and I on the side of the Patriots and freedom. ‘Nuff said.

Not surprised

February 16th, 2010
12:39 am

correction: I know how to spell “interpretation”. It’s late.

Ron Southwick

February 16th, 2010
3:42 am

“Break a few eggs” – You are off the chart – I think your egg is broken. And the yoke – that yellow part – is showing all over your writing. Let’s get real. Deal with real problem, not toys. The teachers and administrators of schools that allow such antics to go on should be the ones suspended. Where is common sense? It doesn’t seem to be too common. Oh, and one more thing…enough with those fear mongers. From Deaf Ranger

Dg

February 16th, 2010
3:48 am

“A well-regulated militia”… If anyone here would bother to read the Federal Code – you’d know that YOU, ME, WE, The People ARE the militia. Between 18 and 45 – all able-body individuals are automatically members of it. Being “well-regulated” means that you have access to the tools necessary to do your job as a member of the militia. It’s up to US, The People, to ensure our freedom. WE, created the Government. WE, gave them certain enumerated powers. WE, did this through the Constitutions. WE, reserved all rights not specifically granted to the Government for ourselves.

We, use Guns to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and our Country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Domestic enemies can take the form of the typical nitwit criminal, or the typical nitwit politician. That we have access to weapons means WE, The People get to ensure our reserved rights to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness at the point of a gun barrel if need be.

Children should be taught at as early an age as possible how to safely deal with weapons. When they’re old enough, they should be taught how to handle and use them. Kids that aren’t taught these valuable lessons end up harming themselves and others because the adults in their lives have failed to be responsible and have fallen victim to the shrill imbecile gun banners.

Gun bans only benefit despots and other criminals. Among others, look to what Hitler did to see the results of gun registration and banning.

NEVER AGAIN! I’m a Jew and the NRA. And yes, I do vote against all who fail to uphold our Constitutions. If you don’t want guns in your life, if you want to rely on someone else to protect you, fine that’s your choice. But don’t you dare presume to make any such choice for me, or my loved ones.

And leave children with fake guns at school alone. Especially 2″ long Lego plastic characters… the principal should be bitch slapped right out into the street then fired.

MrJake

February 16th, 2010
1:57 pm

The Supreme Court observed in U.S. v. Verdugo-Urquidez (1990) “`the people` seems to have been a term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution. The Preamble declares that the Constitution is ordained and established by `the People of the United States.` The Second Amendment protects `the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,` and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments provide that certain rights and powers are retained by and reserved to `the people.`”

The annual number of accidental gun deaths among children has declined 90% since 1975. Today, the odds against a child dying in a gun accident are a million to one. Seventy-eight times as many children die in accidents involving or due to motor vehicles, suffocation, drowning, fire, bicycles and falls. (National Center for Health Statistics)

Three out of four violent crimes committed in the U.S. do not involve firearms. Since 1991, the number of privately owned firearms in the U.S. has increased by 70-75 million, and the nation’s murder rate has decreased 43%. (BATFE and FBI)

Del,

About the .223 v. .308 You’re right, it does not do any good to shoot a firearm if you cannot connect the dots.

Thanks for the discussion. :)

MrJake

February 16th, 2010
2:01 pm

Police are under no legal obligation to provide protection for any individual. Courts have ruled the police have an obligation only to society as a whole. (Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1, 1981 )

The police do not have to legally protect you. What are you going to do? Reason with the intruder?

The crime rate in London is now higher than the crime rate in New York. Crimes with firearms have risen dramatically since the ban on handgun ownership was passed by Parliament. (”Gun law stalks Britain`s,” The Express, May 14, 2001)

The anti’s rhetoric continues…

MrJake

February 16th, 2010
2:05 pm

There is no evidence that anyone associated with drafting, debating, or ratifying the Second Amendment considered the right to arms anything other than a right of individual citizens. (Stephen Halbrook, That Every Man Be Armed, University of New Mexico Press, 1984, p. 83.)

So I guess I must ask the anti’s can you find any evidence that states the 2nd Amendment did not apply to individual citizens?

I’m sure they’re all in a vault somewhere, letters en masse.

Good luck…

Rick A Hyatt

February 16th, 2010
11:37 pm

For any trained martial artist, his greatest weapon is his mind.
Best leave that behind when going to school…

Rick A Hyatt

February 16th, 2010
11:44 pm

Doesn’t everyone enjoy the current political frenzy to pass pro-gun bills?
It’s because there’s a very good chance that the SCOTUS McDonald vs. the City of Chicago case may end up meaning that the States’ ability to regulate the Right To Keep And Bear Arms in any shape or form may be declared moot, completely.
Freedom restored to the People!
So I think most of these new-found pro-gun politicians just want to get credit in advance…

MrJake

February 17th, 2010
4:04 pm

Yes Rick,

It’s as if politicans create laws on which way the wind is blowing….I’d go even far enough to say they’re in it for themselves?

Whodathunk it?

Leadership is doing the right thing BEFORE you’re told to. I’m still worried about McDonald. More than likely it’ll rule that the states ca not infringe on the 2nd Amendment but SCOTUS will put in “reasonable” restrictions to which the states will have a field day, high capacity magazines, 1 gun/month purchase, 10 day waiting periods, assault rifles etc….

Clint

February 19th, 2010
5:04 pm

Rick and Mr Jake, you are both absolutely right. With all of the court cases about gun laws being un-Constitutional and the town hall meetings where politicians keep getting an earful of resentment, they are afraid of losing their jobs and they should be. The Representatives from my district of my State have done a somewhat decent job on alot of things, but I’m going to have to go ahead and vote for other people that are running. If we are going to get new blood elected into these offices, there can be no favoritism. If some need to go, they all need to go. There needs to be an example made. This is just the first step. And maybe, just maybe it will start to sink in that We are the voice and what We say is what will be the final descision. No more Pelosi, Ried, Feinstein, and the rest of their gang of bottom feeders.

john boggess

February 22nd, 2010
7:03 pm

Leif did a lot of research, but missed the point. Having the right to keep and bear arms is about the right to self defense. And in this day and age, the arms better be capable of more than one shot…

uzicarlo

February 27th, 2010
3:30 pm

I like the post where that guy and his kids go shooting once a month as a family outing. I’ve been doing something like that for a while now. Not once a month, but I think it will become once a month. My boys are getting ready now for our family outing at the range where $5.00 each gets us all day shooting. I like that. Inexpensive togetherness – no video games, no hanging out at the mall, no TV, no Ipods…you get the picture. Just constructive activity with dad. Stay well, all. God Bless America.

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2:59 pm

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March 10th, 2010
9:48 pm

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March 11th, 2010
10:51 am

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E D Stewart Jr

March 26th, 2010
10:20 am

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